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^ don't believe Russia wants direct military confrontation with the west. It would lead to nuclear war and everyone would lose. But indirect confrontations are different. Moving to control resources and destabilizing other regions is something they can do. And indirect military confrontations are also possible. No one is going to start a nuclear war over Ukraine for example. They can advance in small scale conflicts without much risk. And the west can do the same of course.
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February 20, 2015, 05:58:46 PM |
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^ don't believe Russia wants direct military confrontation with the west. It would lead to nuclear war and everyone would lose. But indirect confrontations are different. Moving to control resources and destabilizing other regions is something they can do. And indirect military confrontations are also possible. No one is going to start a nuclear war over Ukraine for example. They can advance in small scale conflicts without much risk. And the west can do the same of course.
i think this is the Putin way. he is trying to overwhelm the West using its resources of coal, oil and gas!!! i classic war, nuclear or non nuclear, everyone would lose. i'm from EU. i really hope EU will have soon just one bank, just one army, just one economic policy... the European Parliament as it is, has no real power...
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February 20, 2015, 06:13:23 PM |
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^ don't believe Russia wants direct military confrontation with the west. It would lead to nuclear war and everyone would lose. But indirect confrontations are different. Moving to control resources and destabilizing other regions is something they can do. And indirect military confrontations are also possible. No one is going to start a nuclear war over Ukraine for example. They can advance in small scale conflicts without much risk. And the west can do the same of course.
i think this is the Putin way. he is trying to overwhelm the West using its resources of coal, oil and gas!!! i classic war, nuclear or non nuclear, everyone would lose. i'm from EU. i really hope EU will have soon just one bank, just one army, just one economic policy... the European Parliament as it is, has no real power... I think this is not only Putin's way but the west's way as well. The situation in Ukraine isn't all Russia's fault for example. A lot was America and even more the EU interfering and pushing the situation to get what they wanted. But I agree that if the EU doesn't move to unify, it will be broken up between stronger foreign powers.
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February 20, 2015, 06:33:48 PM |
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^ don't believe Russia wants direct military confrontation with the west. It would lead to nuclear war and everyone would lose. But indirect confrontations are different. Moving to control resources and destabilizing other regions is something they can do. And indirect military confrontations are also possible. No one is going to start a nuclear war over Ukraine for example. They can advance in small scale conflicts without much risk. And the west can do the same of course.
Russia just want Ukrain to be independant or close to Russia but not in the NATO or Europe.
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February 20, 2015, 08:06:56 PM |
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^ don't believe Russia wants direct military confrontation with the west. It would lead to nuclear war and everyone would lose. But indirect confrontations are different. Moving to control resources and destabilizing other regions is something they can do. And indirect military confrontations are also possible. No one is going to start a nuclear war over Ukraine for example. They can advance in small scale conflicts without much risk. And the west can do the same of course.
Russia just want Ukrain to be independant or close to Russia but not in the NATO or Europe. Not that I can't understand Russia's position. They consider Ukraine moving towards the west to be a threat. I know and agree with it. In a lot of ways it is. But who are Russians to say what Ukrainians can or cannot do? And what alliances they can or cannot join? A lot of it was western manipulation. True. But that's no excuse. In the end it must be Ukraine's decision.
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February 21, 2015, 11:05:47 AM |
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I realy believe that USD can now be more value than EUR and this might take just a few days . The EUR zone now is in a bump mode ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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February 21, 2015, 01:28:33 PM |
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I realy believe that USD can now be more value than EUR and this might take just a few days . The EUR zone now is in a bump mode ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) i think different!!! i think USA it is ready for a new recession! just check on "google 2015 usa recession" the number ofs article are rising!
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February 21, 2015, 03:57:12 PM |
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I realy believe that USD can now be more value than EUR and this might take just a few days . The EUR zone now is in a bump mode ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) i think different!!! i think USA it is ready for a new recession! just check on "google 2015 usa recession" the number ofs article are rising! Yup but they will apply makeup with fakemoney and try to fake normality as long as possible.
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February 21, 2015, 06:22:23 PM |
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I realy believe that USD can now be more value than EUR and this might take just a few days . The EUR zone now is in a bump mode ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) i think different!!! i think USA it is ready for a new recession! just check on "google 2015 usa recession" the number ofs article are rising! Yup but they will apply makeup with fakemoney and try to fake normality as long as possible. They are playing the equivalent of a bluff in a poker match.
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February 21, 2015, 07:15:29 PM |
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^ don't believe Russia wants direct military confrontation with the west. It would lead to nuclear war and everyone would lose. But indirect confrontations are different. Moving to control resources and destabilizing other regions is something they can do. And indirect military confrontations are also possible. No one is going to start a nuclear war over Ukraine for example. They can advance in small scale conflicts without much risk. And the west can do the same of course.
i think this is the Putin way. he is trying to overwhelm the West using its resources of coal, oil and gas!!! i classic war, nuclear or non nuclear, everyone would lose. i'm from EU. i really hope EU will have soon just one bank, just one army, just one economic policy...Why does it sound so familiar? Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer... Are you from Germany?
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February 21, 2015, 08:16:09 PM |
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^ don't believe Russia wants direct military confrontation with the west. It would lead to nuclear war and everyone would lose. But indirect confrontations are different. Moving to control resources and destabilizing other regions is something they can do. And indirect military confrontations are also possible. No one is going to start a nuclear war over Ukraine for example. They can advance in small scale conflicts without much risk. And the west can do the same of course.
i think this is the Putin way. he is trying to overwhelm the West using its resources of coal, oil and gas!!! i classic war, nuclear or non nuclear, everyone would lose. i'm from EU. i really hope EU will have soon just one bank, just one army, just one economic policy...Why does it sound so familiar? Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer... Are you from Germany? ahahahaha!!! you make me LOL... if so, you could ask the same question to united states of america people? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 21, 2015, 08:20:34 PM |
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Depends on which is falling faster. They're all going down.
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February 21, 2015, 08:33:16 PM |
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^ don't believe Russia wants direct military confrontation with the west. It would lead to nuclear war and everyone would lose. But indirect confrontations are different. Moving to control resources and destabilizing other regions is something they can do. And indirect military confrontations are also possible. No one is going to start a nuclear war over Ukraine for example. They can advance in small scale conflicts without much risk. And the west can do the same of course.
i think this is the Putin way. he is trying to overwhelm the West using its resources of coal, oil and gas!!! i classic war, nuclear or non nuclear, everyone would lose. i'm from EU. i really hope EU will have soon just one bank, just one army, just one economic policy...Why does it sound so familiar? Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer... Are you from Germany? ahahahaha!!! you make me LOL... if so, you could ask the same question to united states of america people? I never heard anything of the kind from the Americans, them being too individualistic. Methinks, there are too many ethnic groups in the U.S. (unlike Germany) for such a question to have any plausibility and be taken seriously.
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February 22, 2015, 06:42:22 AM |
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^ thought America had all those already. One common army. One general economic policy, with some variations among states. And very few major banks. But that doesn't necessarily lead to Nazi Germany if the EU did it. And I agree with him. Europe should do it. Without it, it will end up balkanized by other major powers.
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February 22, 2015, 08:14:47 AM |
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^ thought America had all those already. One common army. One general economic policy, with some variations among states. And very few major banks. But that doesn't necessarily lead to Nazi Germany if the EU did it. And I agree with him. Europe should do it. Without it, it will end up balkanized by other major powers.
One fatherland security, one operation paperclip, one federal prison system, one national stasi agency. Yes, people of north america, uniformed gang members who claim to represent a "United States" would like to see your papers please. They are just following orders. Oh and don't kid yourself: There is basically only one counterfeiting cartel.
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February 22, 2015, 01:13:42 PM |
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russia will join eur and it will skyrocket! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 22, 2015, 01:50:06 PM |
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russia will join eur and it will skyrocket! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) To the moon!!! A joke from the Cold War era: - When will the World War 3 start? - In 2020... - And how much will a can of Coke cost after it's over? - Twenty kopecks...
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February 22, 2015, 03:57:29 PM |
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russia will join eur and it will skyrocket! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) We'll see all the Bitcoins being mined by 2140 before we see Russia as a part of the European Union.
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February 22, 2015, 04:03:55 PM |
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russia will join eur and it will skyrocket! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) We'll see all the Bitcoins being mined by 2140 before we see Russia as a part of the European Union. Are you sure that by 2140 there still will be the European Union? Don't ask about Russia, since they have more than a thousand years of rather turbulent history and have all the chances to stay.
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February 22, 2015, 04:08:58 PM |
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Is it possible that EUR might drop below USD in 2015? Syriza & ECB QE program pushing price even lower against USD or do you think euro is at it's bottom right now and is going to rise soon? Discussion.
everything can happen, it's a matter of time russia will join eur and it will skyrocket! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) We'll see all the Bitcoins being mined by 2140 before we see Russia as a part of the European Union. Are you sure that by 2140 there still will be the European Union? Don't ask about Russia, since they have more than a thousand years of rather turbulent history and have all the chances to stay. Nobody doesn't know the answer of all these predicition
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