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April 19, 2015, 02:14:51 AM |
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What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?
Why so that tyrants and banksters can control and rob us? Why is it so necessary to have a tyrant controlling us? What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?
I suppose he means negative liberty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_libertyNo i mean voluntarysm, or shall we say anarcho-capitalism. Capitalism has it's structure, it's not total chaos, but without a ruler. Many people would compete with eachother without restrains or regulations. Everything bad in this world came from regulations and corporative privileges, in true capitalism there would be no restrictions on business.
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April 19, 2015, 05:52:09 AM |
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What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?
Why so that tyrants and banksters can control and rob us? Why is it so necessary to have a tyrant controlling us? What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?
I suppose he means negative liberty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_libertyNo i mean voluntarysm, or shall we say anarcho-capitalism. Capitalism has it's structure, it's not total chaos, but without a ruler. Many people would compete with eachother without restrains or regulations. Everything bad in this world came from regulations and corporative privileges, in true capitalism there would be no restrictions on business. So you support some kind of night-watchman state? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state
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April 19, 2015, 09:32:16 AM |
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@Amph Where did you see it was a rumor? Did a quick search and found nothing.
@GreenStox I know of cases like Ireland where the result not to enter the union wasn't accepted. And they repeated the referendum until they got the result they wanted. And I know of cases like Greece and the fear mongering against Syriza. But didn't hear of voting fraud. Do you have sources for that? Not that this referendum is binding anyway. But still significant if it isn't only a rumor.
Even Stalin said that its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes. Democracy is a joke really. The only power you (think) you have is voting, but even that is covered with frauds and deception. So really c`mon people you must realize that democracy is just another form of mirage and scam the tyrants use to keep their slaves in-line. If not democracy then what will be the best model? Tell us dear. May be Dictatorship? No the best model is: Freedom. Democracy is just another form of "subtle" slavery. What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think? Do you think freedom for one means that another one has to be a slave? Consequently, instead of action for freedom, you strive to insert yourself amongst the elites by confusing the lowly masses? That is what I call black occultism.
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April 19, 2015, 04:32:49 PM |
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@Amph Where did you see it was a rumor? Did a quick search and found nothing.
@GreenStox I know of cases like Ireland where the result not to enter the union wasn't accepted. And they repeated the referendum until they got the result they wanted. And I know of cases like Greece and the fear mongering against Syriza. But didn't hear of voting fraud. Do you have sources for that? Not that this referendum is binding anyway. But still significant if it isn't only a rumor.
Even Stalin said that its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes. Democracy is a joke really. The only power you (think) you have is voting, but even that is covered with frauds and deception. So really c`mon people you must realize that democracy is just another form of mirage and scam the tyrants use to keep their slaves in-line. If not democracy then what will be the best model? Tell us dear. May be Dictatorship? No the best model is: Freedom. Democracy is just another form of "subtle" slavery. What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think? Do you think freedom for one means that another one has to be a slave? Consequently, instead of action for freedom, you strive to insert yourself amongst the elites by confusing the lowly masses? That is what I call black occultism. Well, there are studies that say if we distributed all the wealth in the world evenly person per person, everyone would be able to live the same life quality the poor class in mexico has. The question is, do you want to live like that in behalf of global equality?
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April 19, 2015, 04:53:52 PM |
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@Amph Where did you see it was a rumor? Did a quick search and found nothing.
@GreenStox I know of cases like Ireland where the result not to enter the union wasn't accepted. And they repeated the referendum until they got the result they wanted. And I know of cases like Greece and the fear mongering against Syriza. But didn't hear of voting fraud. Do you have sources for that? Not that this referendum is binding anyway. But still significant if it isn't only a rumor.
Even Stalin said that its not who votes that counts its who counts the votes. Democracy is a joke really. The only power you (think) you have is voting, but even that is covered with frauds and deception. So really c`mon people you must realize that democracy is just another form of mirage and scam the tyrants use to keep their slaves in-line. If not democracy then what will be the best model? Tell us dear. May be Dictatorship? No the best model is: Freedom. Democracy is just another form of "subtle" slavery. What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think? Do you think freedom for one means that another one has to be a slave? Consequently, instead of action for freedom, you strive to insert yourself amongst the elites by confusing the lowly masses? That is what I call black occultism. Well, there are studies that say if we distributed all the wealth in the world evenly person per person, everyone would be able to live the same life quality the poor class in mexico has. The question is, do you want to live like that in behalf of global equality? So that is what you want, because you can not see an alternative that is satisfactory for yourself. "Studies" may say that, but think of all the prosperity that the freedom could produce, through capitalism and trade. I think any bit of freedom is positive, and freedom for people in one currently underdeveloped country would produce wealth by its own, not remove what you already have. On the contrary, it will make you richer too.
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April 19, 2015, 04:59:02 PM |
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If European Union collapse EUR drop a lot under USD. If Greece will come out price may be = USD.
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April 19, 2015, 08:29:09 PM |
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Ive been saying repeatedly for some time that the Euro can and WILL be sacrificed if it'll save the USD, i.e. preserve its GRC status.
You think Cyprus was 'unique'? Try the US and its Fed/FRNs: they are so frikkin Special (Chosen!) that they can print at (divine) will.
The war between the US vs Russia & China is escalating.
It looks more like the US is actually losing if it comes to trashing the Euro. The next move will be to spread the fire of civil war from Ukraine to the rest of Europe...
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April 21, 2015, 11:04:06 AM |
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Ive been saying repeatedly for some time that the Euro can and WILL be sacrificed if it'll save the USD, i.e. preserve its GRC status.
You think Cyprus was 'unique'? Try the US and its Fed/FRNs: they are so frikkin Special (Chosen!) that they can print at (divine) will.
The war between the US vs Russia & China is escalating.
It looks more like the US is actually losing if it comes to trashing the Euro. The next move will be to spread the fire of civil war from Ukraine to the rest of Europe... Just buy bitcoins and move to hong kong, you could have a nice future there.
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April 21, 2015, 06:57:38 PM |
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What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?
Why so that tyrants and banksters can control and rob us? Why is it so necessary to have a tyrant controlling us? What do you mean by Freedom? There has to be a system to handle 7 billion people. You can not let all the people free on planet. It will be a chaos. Don't you think?
I suppose he means negative liberty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_libertyNo i mean voluntarysm, or shall we say anarcho-capitalism. Capitalism has it's structure, it's not total chaos, but without a ruler. Many people would compete with eachother without restrains or regulations. Everything bad in this world came from regulations and corporative privileges, in true capitalism there would be no restrictions on business. So you support some kind of night-watchman state? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_stateNo I support no state. You cannot have a minimal government. Thats like saying to your local car thief to only rob the rear-view window from your car. Society should be organized by the free market without thug interference: Anarcho-capitalism
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April 21, 2015, 07:03:26 PM |
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that so bad, i still have some eur ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I think this is bad for the economy in europe but this is good news for americans ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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April 22, 2015, 04:56:58 AM |
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that so bad, i still have some eur ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I think this is bad for the economy in europe but this is good news for americans ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Me too but i try to get rid of it, so far it hasnt been seen in bitcoin, as due to all these fuking regulation the BTC/EUR price dropped, even if EUR's absolute purchasing power declined. Altough i would not invest in dollar either, sure everybody flees into the dollar, but they dont want strong dollar as their national debt will suffer on it, so if the strong dollar continues, they will be forced to do a QE4. So if you really want a good trade then probably hold USD for a few months until it gets stronger but not more, and then buy Bitcoin with it lol.
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April 22, 2015, 05:26:38 AM |
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that so bad, i still have some eur ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I think this is bad for the economy in europe but this is good news for americans ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) The value of USD is not actually increasing. So in reality, it is not good news for the Americans (check the gold price in USD, or silver price in USD, per ounce). In the past 3-4 months, gold has stayed at around $1,200 per oz. with hardly any movement.
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April 22, 2015, 05:30:30 AM |
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that so bad, i still have some eur ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I think this is bad for the economy in europe but this is good news for americans ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) The value of USD is not actually increasing. So in reality, it is not good news for the Americans (check the gold price in USD, or silver price in USD, per ounce). In the past 3-4 months, gold has stayed at around $1,200 per oz. with hardly any movement. Relativity, from other currencies standpoint it is, but from purchasing power standpoint it sinks like any other currency. Its just that the USD is the boat that sinks the slowest.
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April 26, 2015, 03:35:33 PM |
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I dont think it will drop below it soon, but in the next 1-2 years it could happen, so my feeling is medium term. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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April 26, 2015, 06:00:58 PM |
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good news for those like me who earns USD and have to exchange
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April 26, 2015, 06:53:50 PM |
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that so bad, i still have some eur ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I think this is bad for the economy in europe but this is good news for americans ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) The value of USD is not actually increasing. So in reality, it is not good news for the Americans (check the gold price in USD, or silver price in USD, per ounce). In the past 3-4 months, gold has stayed at around $1,200 per oz. with hardly any movement. Gold is still solid as hell, that is what Bitcoin is happening. Bitcoin defeat's Gold in basically everything, except the fact it's too new and it's price, as a result, is a big rollercoaster. Once the price settles, Bitcoin will be the way to go for wealth storage.
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April 29, 2015, 02:04:49 PM |
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It simply won't happen.
US Q1 2015 GDP: +0.2% (thanks to the biggest inventory build in history in this last quarter).
Get ready for another QE, YAYYY!
Our economies are sinking together dear american friends, welcome to RECESSIONLAND.
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April 30, 2015, 11:13:36 PM |
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It simply won't happen.
US Q1 2015 GDP: +0.2% (thanks to the biggest inventory build in history in this last quarter).
Get ready for another QE, YAYYY!
Our economies are sinking together dear american friends, welcome to RECESSIONLAND GREAT DEPRESSION PART II. LAND.
Hey i corrected you, there will be a great depression, but this time it will manifest itself in QE Infinity, a.k.a HYPERINFLATION ZIMBABWE STYLE ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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