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yes, painters tape is good too
why i said to raise it, is because the fan is really obstructed the way you have it now. the difference in temp from floor to 10inches above floor is almost none, but a good airflow is best!
I will attempt to raise it later you may be correct about the fan blockage. The tape seems to be helping. this is a new number with window closed. very good hashrate but early. Philip, Have you found that on your test miners that there are Frequencies that work at higher points rather than lower? Example - I have most of my miners at 392.75 - some at 400. Some got x's at 400. Is there reason to think maybe that a miner that x's out at 400 - might actually work at 412? Cheers, Strato The two I had both can do freq 412. but cold rooms and lots of fans are important. As for good freq vs shit freq. I have found that 275 was not good and 318.75 was bad. The key for overclock is look at the HW as long as they are under 0.05 good rates show up. for me 412 is very good 425 errors got high 0.088 and has was lower at 425 then 412. You need to wait at least two hours to see: the rates settle the errors settle the temps settle when you get over 375 freq . Also the pool you are using can affect hw's. I built a 1 dollar 4 sided should using a cardboard box and duct tape . not sureif it helps will continue to test.
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February 08, 2015, 07:21:01 AM |
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I wonder if all the Bitmain folks are rapidly figuring out a way to turn their miners from regular to vertical on their shelves right now. Strato
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Antminer & DragonMint Repair E-mail: support@myrig.com T: @MyRig_com Return Address: MyRig 3700 Quebec Street, Unit 100-239, Denver, Colorado 80207, USA
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February 08, 2015, 09:03:14 AM |
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they already do it with the s4. there is a picture around here with miners in oblique position...
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February 08, 2015, 10:46:35 AM |
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Overclocking voids the warranty? Then why is it a drop down option in the control panel of your software which ships with the units.
Secondly; why is it not listed on that submenu (Advanced) as WARNING saying that clocking above 350 will void ones warranty.
Antminer warranty is like dog shit in the street. Antminer dont have any warranty.only warranty is he first take money for miner and delivery usually used miner. i have recive one s1 miner whit totally broken fan mount,he sey bay one in localy shop. next time you bay s-1 i send you replacement because post is exspensive i bay more 7x s1 and never receive this broken fan.
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February 08, 2015, 01:16:16 PM |
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Overclocking voids the warranty? Then why is it a drop down option in the control panel of your software which ships with the units.
Secondly; why is it not listed on that submenu (Advanced) as WARNING saying that clocking above 350 will void ones warranty.
Antminer warranty is like dog shit in the street. Antminer dont have any warranty.only warranty is he first take money for miner and delivery usually used miner. i have recive one s1 miner whit totally broken fan mount,he sey bay one in localy shop. next time you bay s-1 i send you replacement because post is exspensive i bay more 7x s1 and never receive this broken fan. I'll have to say I havent had that experience. I ordered roughly 50 of the S3+ units - and only one was defective - just a bad fan - it happens. They were super responsive and helped me get it swapped out. As far as the S5 units - the ones I received (24 of them) - they were definitely used. There was a lot of dust build up on the fan blades - you could tell these had been run for some time. HOWEVER - I think it goes without saying that when you buy a miner from Bitmain or any miner manufacturer - they are first used to mine then sold as they roll in their newest generation miners for themselves. Their business model depends on that. I would have liked the units I received to not have so much dust build up. But all 24 of them are working just as they were promised - even better. And I replaced the fans anyways. My only issue is Dogie; he was helpful with the wiring diagram for using two PSUs with 3 miners; but more often then not he seems misinformed on a lot of different topics. I am not even 100% convinced he actually works for Bitmain or just self appointed himself. But that's a whole other issue. So for me Bitmain has been great. Just wanted to throw in my experience there. Strato
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I had some time today to build something to close the case of the S5. I still have the miner standing vertical. Closing the bottom of the miner helped in bringing temps of blade 2 down 3 degrees. But covering the top was not as expected and caused blade 1 to increase temps by 2-3 degrees and blade 2 increased by 1 degree. Fan speed increased two steps too. So now I am using vertical setup with standard fan, closed bottom and run the miner at 393.75 with 1280 GH at 43 degrees max.
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February 09, 2015, 01:49:00 AM Last edit: February 09, 2015, 01:59:51 AM by toptekk |
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I had some time today to build something to close the case of the S5. I still have the miner standing vertical. Closing the bottom of the miner helped in bringing temps of blade 2 down 3 degrees. But covering the top was not as expected and caused blade 1 to increase temps by 2-3 degrees and blade 2 increased by 1 degree. Fan speed increased two steps too. So now I am using vertical setup with standard fan, closed bottom and run the miner at 393.75 with 1280 GH at 43 degrees max.
one fan how cold is the room Ive been thinking of adding some plexiglass at the bottom my self i have a peace laying around cut to fit it . and heat sink two of the chips again . i need them a little more less noise . here one of mine standing up.
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February 09, 2015, 04:02:18 AM |
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Dogie is wrong that it is not cooler at least in my case. It is cooler this way with 1 unit in a 12 by 12 by 7.5 very well insulated room.
That's not what I was saying. Given a homogeneous environment its not going to make any difference. If you take it to an extreme of a single 600W unit in a unit with a window open, of course the floor is going to be cooler. My only issue is Dogie; he was helpful with the wiring diagram for using two PSUs with 3 miners; but more often then not he seems misinformed on a lot of different topics. I am not even 100% convinced he actually works for Bitmain or just self appointed himself. But that's a whole other issue.
So because I suggested you should add a "this will void your warranty" disclaimer, you take it personally? Either way I'd rather you not like me then customers' ability to use their warranty be damaged, should they need it.
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February 09, 2015, 06:48:52 AM |
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Dogie is wrong that it is not cooler at least in my case. It is cooler this way with 1 unit in a 12 by 12 by 7.5 very well insulated room.
That's not what I was saying. Given a homogeneous environment its not going to make any difference. If you take it to an extreme of a single 600W unit in a unit with a window open, of course the floor is going to be cooler. My only issue is Dogie; he was helpful with the wiring diagram for using two PSUs with 3 miners; but more often then not he seems misinformed on a lot of different topics. I am not even 100% convinced he actually works for Bitmain or just self appointed himself. But that's a whole other issue.
So because I suggested you should add a "this will void your warranty" disclaimer, you take it personally? Either way I'd rather you not like me then customers' ability to use their warranty be damaged, should they need it. Bitmain has still made ZERO comment on the warranty - or lack there of. So I take your claim with a grain of salt - as it was written by you and only appears burried in some obscure forum on some wiki - where ever that is. Strato
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February 09, 2015, 07:25:02 AM |
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I had some time today to build something to close the case of the S5. I still have the miner standing vertical. Closing the bottom of the miner helped in bringing temps of blade 2 down 3 degrees. But covering the top was not as expected and caused blade 1 to increase temps by 2-3 degrees and blade 2 increased by 1 degree. Fan speed increased two steps too. So now I am using vertical setup with standard fan, closed bottom and run the miner at 393.75 with 1280 GH at 43 degrees max.
one fan how cold is the room Ive been thinking of adding some plexiglass at the bottom my self i have a peace laying around cut to fit it . and heat sink two of the chips again . i need them a little more less noise . here one of mine standing up. Room temp is at 10-11 degrees.
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February 09, 2015, 10:58:35 AM |
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Dogie is wrong that it is not cooler at least in my case. It is cooler this way with 1 unit in a 12 by 12 by 7.5 very well insulated room.
That's not what I was saying. Given a homogeneous environment its not going to make any difference. If you take it to an extreme of a single 600W unit in a unit with a window open, of course the floor is going to be cooler. This is simply a case of if dogie did not suggest the idea, its a bad idea. The OP clearly stated that he's got several S5's in the vertical configuration and philipma1957 is simply confirming that it works for a single unit too! What is so hard to understand about that? My only issue is Dogie; he was helpful with the wiring diagram for using two PSUs with 3 miners; but more often then not he seems misinformed on a lot of different topics. I am not even 100% convinced he actually works for Bitmain or just self appointed himself. But that's a whole other issue.
So because I suggested you should add a "this will void your warranty" disclaimer, you take it personally? Either way I'd rather you not like me then customers' ability to use their warranty be damaged, should they need it. No, the OP said you seem misinformed on a lot of different topics and that he was not 100% sure you actually work for Bitmain. I actually know the OP's sentiment to be accurate, and there is nothing personal about that in my or OP's case. As the OP said, that is borne true by your fabricated terms of warranty which you have been peddling all over this forum for your own selfish, self gratification (there's a special term for that ..... I am sure you know what it is). I can confirm that I noticed an improvement in temps on a vertically positioned S3. I only run it for a few hours on a day that was warmer than it has been in the last week and the temps on both blades were down by 3 and 5 respectively (whatever units they use) for the duration. I need to get a more sturdy mesh on which to deploy them for the long term so I'll do this when I next get some free time over the coming weekend.
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February 09, 2015, 12:09:54 PM |
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Dogie is wrong that it is not cooler at least in my case. It is cooler this way with 1 unit in a 12 by 12 by 7.5 very well insulated room.
That's not what I was saying. Given a homogeneous environment its not going to make any difference. If you take it to an extreme of a single 600W unit in a unit with a window open, of course the floor is going to be cooler. This is simply a case of if dogie did not suggest the idea, its a bad idea. The OP clearly stated that he's got several S5's in the vertical configuration and philipma1957 is simply confirming that it works for a single unit too! What is so hard to understand about that? My only issue is Dogie; he was helpful with the wiring diagram for using two PSUs with 3 miners; but more often then not he seems misinformed on a lot of different topics. I am not even 100% convinced he actually works for Bitmain or just self appointed himself. But that's a whole other issue.
So because I suggested you should add a "this will void your warranty" disclaimer, you take it personally? Either way I'd rather you not like me then customers' ability to use their warranty be damaged, should they need it. No, the OP said you seem misinformed on a lot of different topics and that he was not 100% sure you actually work for Bitmain. I actually know the OP's sentiment to be accurate, and there is nothing personal about that in my or OP's case. As the OP said, that is borne true by your fabricated terms of warranty which you have been peddling all over this forum for your own selfish, self gratification (there's a special term for that ..... I am sure you know what it is). I can confirm that I noticed an improvement in temps on a vertically positioned S3. I only run it for a few hours on a day that was warmer than it has been in the last week and the temps on both blades were down by 3 and 5 respectively (whatever units they use) for the duration. I need to get a more sturdy mesh on which to deploy them for the long term so I'll do this when I next get some free time over the coming weekend. To further add, and I mean this half jokingly and half not so much; is that I almost want to simply believe that Dogie isnt even an actual human, rather some sort of software chat bot, with high intelligence for communication in forums. The reason I say that is his replies to posts almost never address the issues he is commenting on accurately. They seem to stray off topic, or ignore the spirit of the original post altogether. It just very much seems like recycled babble. Either that or his English comprehension is just poor, and doesn't fully understand what he's reading, or what the responses he posts actually communicate. Dogie; a test (which I feel even the most sophisticated chat bot would not be able to solve). If a tree was cut down with an axe in the middle of a forest, and no one was around to hear the sound. Would it make a sound? Strato
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Here we go. Please, allow me to be the first: Robo-Dogie
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February 09, 2015, 03:42:44 PM Last edit: February 09, 2015, 03:55:15 PM by toptekk |
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Dogie is wrong that it is not cooler at least in my case. It is cooler this way with 1 unit in a 12 by 12 by 7.5 very well insulated room.
That's not what I was saying. Given a homogeneous environment its not going to make any difference. If you take it to an extreme of a single 600W unit in a unit with a window open, of course the floor is going to be cooler. My only issue is Dogie; he was helpful with the wiring diagram for using two PSUs with 3 miners; but more often then not he seems misinformed on a lot of different topics. I am not even 100% convinced he actually works for Bitmain or just self appointed himself. But that's a whole other issue.
So because I suggested you should add a "this will void your warranty" disclaimer, you take it personally? Either way I'd rather you not like me then customers' ability to use their warranty be damaged, should they need it. Bitmain has still made ZERO comment on the warranty - or lack there of. So I take your claim with a grain of salt - as it was written by you and only appears burried in some obscure forum on some wiki - where ever that is. Strato sadly this poped up on bitmains site not sure when .. https://support.bitmain.com/wikis/86I don't renumber seeing that a week ago i all ways look to see what may void any warranty. looks like the S5 discretion was reword about oc. it's gone on there site .
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February 09, 2015, 03:53:42 PM |
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Dogie is wrong that it is not cooler at least in my case. It is cooler this way with 1 unit in a 12 by 12 by 7.5 very well insulated room.
That's not what I was saying. Given a homogeneous environment its not going to make any difference. If you take it to an extreme of a single 600W unit in a unit with a window open, of course the floor is going to be cooler. My only issue is Dogie; he was helpful with the wiring diagram for using two PSUs with 3 miners; but more often then not he seems misinformed on a lot of different topics. I am not even 100% convinced he actually works for Bitmain or just self appointed himself. But that's a whole other issue.
So because I suggested you should add a "this will void your warranty" disclaimer, you take it personally? Either way I'd rather you not like me then customers' ability to use their warranty be damaged, should they need it. Bitmain has still made ZERO comment on the warranty - or lack there of. So I take your claim with a grain of salt - as it was written by you and only appears burried in some obscure forum on some wiki - where ever that is. Strato sadly this poped up on bitmains site not sure when .. https://support.bitmain.com/wikis/86Thanks for bringing that to our attention, but I am afraid that can not be applied retrospectively to units bought before whatever date it appeared. Infact, despite bitmain having a winner of a machine in the S5, this addition to their wiki (which I am not yet sure whether it is referenced to be part of the conditions of purchase) without being dated is an underhand way of dealing with their customers. But hey, it is what it is .... a small print added to limit their exposure and shaft their customers.
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February 09, 2015, 03:58:32 PM Last edit: February 09, 2015, 04:18:52 PM by toptekk |
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Dogie is wrong that it is not cooler at least in my case. It is cooler this way with 1 unit in a 12 by 12 by 7.5 very well insulated room.
That's not what I was saying. Given a homogeneous environment its not going to make any difference. If you take it to an extreme of a single 600W unit in a unit with a window open, of course the floor is going to be cooler. My only issue is Dogie; he was helpful with the wiring diagram for using two PSUs with 3 miners; but more often then not he seems misinformed on a lot of different topics. I am not even 100% convinced he actually works for Bitmain or just self appointed himself. But that's a whole other issue.
So because I suggested you should add a "this will void your warranty" disclaimer, you take it personally? Either way I'd rather you not like me then customers' ability to use their warranty be damaged, should they need it. Bitmain has still made ZERO comment on the warranty - or lack there of. So I take your claim with a grain of salt - as it was written by you and only appears burried in some obscure forum on some wiki - where ever that is. Strato sadly this poped up on bitmains site not sure when .. https://support.bitmain.com/wikis/86Thanks for bringing that to our attention, but I am afraid that can not be applied retrospectively to units bought before whatever date it appeared. Infact, despite bitmain having a winner of a machine in the S5, this addition to their wiki (which I am not yet sure whether it is referenced to be part of the conditions of purchase) without being dated is an underhand way of dealing with their customers. But hey, it is what it is .... a small print added to limit their exposure and shaft their customers. and In a US court it wouldn't hold, not enough to explain what it apply's to etc . they are in the US now or have been but took down that site i have talked to Yoshi Goto over the phone at the site that was out in Colorado i no longer have those email so i can't prove it but he replaced one of my S3 one time no question asked and seemed to be really cool . they even crossed shipped it kind of .I don't know how they get a way with out giving the address unless that number was posted on a oversea site that lets them .i'm no lawyer but i can tell you when some laws are not being followed right but don't know how to file etc rater not to much involved these days . Yoshi Goto Bitmain U.S. +1 844 248 6246 x 635 +1 323 697 6884 Area code 323 is in California Im not putting this up to start anything i like the company or prove anyone wrong just helping out .
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Dogie is wrong that it is not cooler at least in my case. It is cooler this way with 1 unit in a 12 by 12 by 7.5 very well insulated room.
That's not what I was saying. Given a homogeneous environment its not going to make any difference. If you take it to an extreme of a single 600W unit in a unit with a window open, of course the floor is going to be cooler. This is simply a case of if dogie did not suggest the idea, its a bad idea. The OP clearly stated that he's got several S5's in the vertical configuration and philipma1957 is simply confirming that it works for a single unit too! What is so hard to understand about that? My only issue is Dogie; he was helpful with the wiring diagram for using two PSUs with 3 miners; but more often then not he seems misinformed on a lot of different topics. I am not even 100% convinced he actually works for Bitmain or just self appointed himself. But that's a whole other issue.
So because I suggested you should add a "this will void your warranty" disclaimer, you take it personally? Either way I'd rather you not like me then customers' ability to use their warranty be damaged, should they need it. No, the OP said you seem misinformed on a lot of different topics and that he was not 100% sure you actually work for Bitmain. I actually know the OP's sentiment to be accurate, and there is nothing personal about that in my or OP's case. As the OP said, that is borne true by your fabricated terms of warranty which you have been peddling all over this forum for your own selfish, self gratification (there's a special term for that ..... I am sure you know what it is). I can confirm that I noticed an improvement in temps on a vertically positioned S3. I only run it for a few hours on a day that was warmer than it has been in the last week and the temps on both blades were down by 3 and 5 respectively (whatever units they use) for the duration. I need to get a more sturdy mesh on which to deploy them for the long term so I'll do this when I next get some free time over the coming weekend. To further add, and I mean this half jokingly and half not so much; is that I almost want to simply believe that Dogie isnt even an actual human, rather some sort of software chat bot, with high intelligence for communication in forums. The reason I say that is his replies to posts almost never address the issues he is commenting on accurately. They seem to stray off topic, or ignore the spirit of the original post altogether. It just very much seems like recycled babble. Either that or his English comprehension is just poor, and doesn't fully understand what he's reading, or what the responses he posts actually communicate. Dogie; a test (which I feel even the most sophisticated chat bot would not be able to solve). If a tree was cut down with an axe in the middle of a forest, and no one was around to hear the sound. Would it make a sound? Strato I think dogie is real. I remember them begging just like a dog looking for handouts to buy a new camera so they could take prettier pictures, or was it an IR thermometer or both I cant remember but it was funny.
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February 09, 2015, 06:56:04 PM |
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Dogie is wrong that it is not cooler at least in my case. It is cooler this way with 1 unit in a 12 by 12 by 7.5 very well insulated room.
That's not what I was saying. Given a homogeneous environment its not going to make any difference. If you take it to an extreme of a single 600W unit in a unit with a window open, of course the floor is going to be cooler. My only issue is Dogie; he was helpful with the wiring diagram for using two PSUs with 3 miners; but more often then not he seems misinformed on a lot of different topics. I am not even 100% convinced he actually works for Bitmain or just self appointed himself. But that's a whole other issue.
So because I suggested you should add a "this will void your warranty" disclaimer, you take it personally? Either way I'd rather you not like me then customers' ability to use their warranty be damaged, should they need it. Bitmain has still made ZERO comment on the warranty - or lack there of. So I take your claim with a grain of salt - as it was written by you and only appears burried in some obscure forum on some wiki - where ever that is. sadly this poped up on bitmains site not sure when .. https://support.bitmain.com/wikis/86. I don't renumber seeing that a week ago i all ways look to see what may void any warranty. looks like the S5 discretion was reword about oc. it's gone on there site . Because I put it there to be 100% clear, as I said 5 days ago. I don't really care if you believe overclocking voids the warranty or not - that's your prerogative to do what you want with your warranty. Just don't encourage others to void theirs with false claims that it doesn't unless you want to create a bond. Then those who's units fail under warranty but listened to your 'mod' voided their warranties with incorrect information can be paid.
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February 09, 2015, 07:06:34 PM |
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Because I put it there to be 100% clear, as I said 5 days ago. I don't really care if you believe overclocking voids the warranty or not - that's your prerogative to do what you want with your warranty. Just don't encourage others to void theirs with false claims that it doesn't unless you want to create a bond. Then those who's units fail under warranty but listened to your 'mod' voided their warranties with incorrect information can be paid. You are such a fool to antagonise bitmain in such a manner. You posting that on the wiki page linked from the main site does not make it a term of purchase. A more appropriate place would be the user-manual ..... and do that knowing pretty well it can not be applied retrospectively, and you should make that clear in the " advice posts" you make on this forum (to the people that are naive enough to take your advice). Just to clarify, how does positioning your S5 vertically void the warranty, or are you just being off-topic for the sake of it? And by the way, this is NOT a bitmain forum where you as the self appointed bitmain representative can dictate what is posted or not, be it about bitmain products or not. You've advised people to upgrade their S3 firmware to your corrupted, self hosted firmware and the same persons have reported failed chips on their rigs from installing your firmware download, how many of those have you recompensed?
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