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August 29, 2012, 02:06:36 PM |
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You have to learn to re-school mathematics .. It's impossible (slowly) Do not waste your time for nothing.
You don't understand. It is immensely improbable, but not impossible. Only possible outcomes are taken into account to calculate the probability, hence him hitting the jackpot is one. Every second of your life things you call "impossible" happen, albeit usually not as favorable as what I jokingly mentioned above. Think about this - there were likely a billion sperm cells competing for your mother's egg cell in the month she conceived you. And here you are, the way you are. Definitely not impossible. Lol, a billion is nothing compared to this. See, technically you're right. Practically, he can spend his time better. He has a better chance to simply guess a bank, a login and a password, and hit the bank account of a millionaire. |
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naima53
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August 29, 2012, 02:12:09 PM |
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It'll go faster if you use oclvanitygen!
using GPU - write to disk is slower, but "brute force" - faster. In any case, it's a joke.  But seriously - it is possible to pre-generate a lot of addresses. And when every inhabitant of the Earth will be 100 addresses - will be more likely to find ..  ...1/100th of their btc balance! the probability to find 1\10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 forgot ... for the year |
Donate me) 16f6iWHHkVEnDReeBQPT9GwCNwUfPTXrp2
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niko
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August 29, 2012, 02:13:21 PM |
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You have to learn to re-school mathematics .. It's impossible (slowly) Do not waste your time for nothing.
You don't understand. It is immensely improbable, but not impossible. Only possible outcomes are taken into account to calculate the probability, hence him hitting the jackpot is one. Every second of your life things you call "impossible" happen, albeit usually not as favorable as what I jokingly mentioned above. Think about this - there were likely a billion sperm cells competing for your mother's egg cell in the month she conceived you. And here you are, the way you are. Definitely not impossible. Lol, a billion is nothing compared to this. See, technically you're right. Practically, he can spend his time better. He has a better chance to simply guess a bank, a login and a password, and hit the bank account of a millionaire. Very much true. You could even add to this chain of events that the millionaire never notices. Still, I'm simply curious: is vanitygen search space random, or deterministic? That is, do those who start searching before others always arrive first (assuming the same hashrate)? |
They're there, in their room.
Your mining rig is on fire, yet you're very calm.
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BTCurious
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August 29, 2012, 02:18:49 PM |
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As far as I know, it's random. A random seed is picked when starting, then a bunch of keys which are increments of this starting point are tried (this is more efficient than having every key tested being random).
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naima53
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August 29, 2012, 02:58:17 PM
Last edit: August 29, 2012, 03:11:43 PM by naima53 |
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If I take it ...  And buried under one of these sleepers ...  You try to find?  In my opinion, easier to use the method below ... (Russia has allowed the extraction of gold to private individuals (easy to make gold mining cartel), but not the industry method .. (without technology) )  |
Donate me) 16f6iWHHkVEnDReeBQPT9GwCNwUfPTXrp2
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BTCurious
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August 29, 2012, 09:50:05 PM |
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If I take it ... And buried under one of these sleepers ... You try to find? The chance to find it is higher than the chance to find the private key for a full address. |
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Yuhfhrh
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August 29, 2012, 09:59:25 PM |
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If I take it ... And buried under one of these sleepers ... You try to find? The chance to find it is higher than the chance to find the private key for a full address. Very true |
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ErebusBat
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August 30, 2012, 07:31:44 PM |
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I'll just leave this here:  |
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Spekulatius
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August 30, 2012, 08:13:40 PM |
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"Insignificance" I'll just leave that here.
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August 30, 2012, 08:39:16 PM |
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If I take it ... And buried under one of these sleepers ... You try to find? In my opinion, easier to use the method below ... (Russia has allowed the extraction of gold to private individuals (easy to make gold mining cartel), but not the industry method .. (without technology) ) Wow, this is the first time I actually understand what you're saying, naima53. Use images MORE! |
PGP key molecular F9B70769 fingerprint 9CDD C0D3 20F8 279F 6BE0 3F39 FC49 2362 F9B7 0769
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dlasher
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August 30, 2012, 09:40:02 PM |
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Balance continues to drop : 307,335.83452016 BTC (8/30/2012)
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August 30, 2012, 10:45:48 PM |
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To me it's very clear that he's merely splitting up the money among several new addresses that he owns. I followed 2 paths from his ownership node from the main address, and you can tell hes sending it to relatively inactive owners (since these owners only own a single address and have no other owners who sent them money), which suggests hes just sending it to brand new addresses with relatively no activity. I only found one deposit where he sent the money to Mt Gox, and another where he probably sent it to a different person. Then again, I only clicked around for a bit: https://i.imgur.com/P3q88.pngHere's his ownership node if any of you are interested -> http://blockviewer.com/#/node/28274126 |
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August 30, 2012, 10:50:00 PM |
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Still, I'm simply curious: is vanitygen search space random, or deterministic? That is, do those who start searching before others always arrive first (assuming the same hashrate)?
If it was deterministic then I would be able to steal the bitcoins from 1NaNoBitU2q8czqE2y5rEQPj4qcW6K3mFp or any other address found using vanitygen just by searching for it and waiting about as long as it too the owner to find it. |
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niko
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August 30, 2012, 11:04:32 PM |
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Still, I'm simply curious: is vanitygen search space random, or deterministic? That is, do those who start searching before others always arrive first (assuming the same hashrate)?
If it was deterministic then I would be able to steal the bitcoins from 1NaNoBitU2q8czqE2y5rEQPj4qcW6K3mFp or any other address found using vanitygen just by searching for it and waiting about as long as it too the owner to find it. OUCH! That hurt. Thanks for pointing out. |
They're there, in their room.
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BTCurious
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August 30, 2012, 11:54:52 PM |
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Still, I'm simply curious: is vanitygen search space random, or deterministic? That is, do those who start searching before others always arrive first (assuming the same hashrate)?
If it was deterministic then I would be able to steal the bitcoins from 1NaNoBitU2q8czqE2y5rEQPj4qcW6K3mFp or any other address found using vanitygen just by searching for it and waiting about as long as it too the owner to find it. My coins! Don't steal them  |
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Spekulatius
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August 31, 2012, 01:22:25 AM |
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To me it's very clear that he's merely splitting up the money among several new addresses that he owns. I followed 2 paths from his ownership node from the main address, and you can tell hes sending it to relatively inactive owners (since these owners only own a single address and have no other owners who sent them money), which suggests hes just sending it to brand new addresses with relatively no activity. I only found one deposit where he sent the money to Mt Gox, and another where he probably sent it to a different person. Then again, I only clicked around for a bit:  Here's his ownership node if any of you are interested -> http://blockviewer.com/#/node/28274126Whats the tx ID from when he sent funds to MtGox?? |
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dree12
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August 31, 2012, 02:01:07 AM |
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I'm no expert on this address, but I've just created a wiki page on it. Experts, please help provide information to everyone by expanding it! |
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Spekulatius
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August 31, 2012, 03:30:56 AM |
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U mean 61>> K<< BTC or simply 61 BTC?? |
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August 31, 2012, 05:20:30 AM
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U mean 61>> K<< BTC or simply 61 BTC?? it's 61.21 BTC and it looks not like it hit Gox. But like it entered the staging area for a mixer and then went right back instead of running through. There is a lot of semi uselss ones like that. But then, there is a lot of really useful ones that have some interesting patterns to them if you follow them through the wash. |
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