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[irfan_pak10]

So, after this mess, where would you be moving your altcoins ?   (redsn0w, how about a poll ?  )

Yes why not , Poll opened :  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=971701.0

It would be very interested to know "where would you be moving your altcoins?".

The poll is a bit premature. We should at first get "our altcoins".

Yes I know , it was only an "hypothetical" answer. Just for know where would you be moving your altcoins (if you will receive them)?

Are they planing to send you altcoins?

I don't have any altcoins on bter.com, I've used it a few months ago for trade some ArchCoin; but after that situation I didn't deposit in their exchange anymore.

However , yes they are planning to send the altcoins to all the users the problem is : we don't know "when".

But what we can can do with these coin, 4 day ago i used to withdraw my scammed btc out but i received a message that withdraw are suspended

[bri912678]

Which coins are only on Bter and no other exchange?

[cshelswell]

So, after this mess, where would you be moving your altcoins ?   (redsn0w, how about a poll ?  )

Poloniex  looks good so does alts.trade but that pretty basic judgment based on appearances only. No idea how they'd fair when hacked

[mishax1]

So, after this mess, where would you be moving your altcoins ?   (redsn0w, how about a poll ?  )

Poloniex  looks good so does alts.trade but that pretty basic judgment based on appearances only. No idea how they'd fair when hacked

I know the guy who runs alts.trade but it has 0 volume  

[tee-rex]

So, after this mess, where would you be moving your altcoins ?   (redsn0w, how about a poll ?  )

Poloniex  looks good so does alts.trade but that pretty basic judgment based on appearances only. No idea how they'd fair when hacked

Poloniex had already got stripped of some 50k dollars in bitcoins through a lame hole in their withdrawal system in 2014. All users ended up having to pay for the robbery by "giving up" a part of their funds.

[Kn_os]

Which coins are only on Bter and no other exchange?

AC Cryptsy
ARCH Cryptsy, Bittrex
ATOMIC   NXT Assets (means selling for nxt on nxt decentral exchange?)
AUR   Cryptsy
BAY   Bittrex
BBR   Bittrex, Poloniex
BITGLD   Bit Assets
BLK   Black coin trading everywhere
BLOCK   Bittrex, Poloniex
BQC   Cryptsy
BTB   Cryptsy
BTCD   Cryptsy, Bittrex, Poloniex
BTS   Btc38, Bittrex, Poloniex
BUK   Cryptsy
C2   Poloniex
CDC   -none-
CKC   Cryptsy, Bittrex, Bleutrade
CMC   Cryptsy
CNC   Cryptsy
COMM   Cryptsy, Allcrypt
DGC   Cryptsy, Btc38, Bittrex, Swisscess
DICE   NXT Assets
DNS   -none-
DOGE   Doge coin trading everywhere
DRK   Drk coin trading everywhere
DRKC   Cryptsy
DTC   Coins-e
IFC    Cryptsy, Poloniex
EXC   -none-
FLT   Cryptsy, Poloniex
FRC   Cryptsy, Bleutrade
FRSH   -none-
FTC   Cryptsy
GEMZ   Bittrex, Poloniex
GHOST   -none-
GML   Cryptsy, Poloniex
KDC   Cryptsy
LTC   trading everywhere
LTS   -none-
MAX   Cryptsy, Bittrex
MEC   Cryptsy, Btc38
MGW   NXT Assets
MINT   Cryptsy, Poloniex
MMC   Poloniex
MRKT   NXT Assets
MSC   Cryptsy??
NAS   Btc38
NAV   Cryptsy, bittrex, poloniex
NBT   Poloniex, Allcoin, CCED and so on
NEC   Cryptsy
NET   Cryptsy
NFD   -none-
NMC   Btc-e
NODE   Alcurex
NSR   Poloniex, Allcoin, CCED
NTX   Poloniex
NXT   NXT - coin a lot of place for trading
NXTTY   NXT asset
PPC   Btc-e
PRT   Allcrypt
PTS   - dead coin? switched to bts?
QORA   Poloniex
QRK   Cryptsy, Btc38
ROX   Coins-e
SFR   Cryptsy, Bittrex
SLM   -none-
SPARK   -none-
SRC   Cryptsy, Btc38
SWIFT   Cryptsy, Bittrex
TAG   Cryptsy, btc38
TOKEN   ??
UNITY   Nxt Asset Exchange
VIA   Cryptsy, Bittrex, Poloniex      
VRC   Cryptsy, Bittrex, Poloniex
VTC   Cryptsy
WDC   Cryptsy, Btc38 and et
XC   Cryptsy, Bittrex, Poloniex
XCH   Poloniex
XCN   Poloniex
XCP   Poloniex, Bittrex
XCR   Cryptsy
XMR   Poloniex, Bittrex
XPM   Cryptsy, Btc38, Poloniex and et
XTC   Bitttrex
YAC   Cryptsy
ZCC   Cryptsy
ZET   Cryptsy, Bittrex

[Cassius]

So, after this mess, where would you be moving your altcoins ?   (redsn0w, how about a poll ?  )

Poloniex  looks good so does alts.trade but that pretty basic judgment based on appearances only. No idea how they'd fair when hacked

Poloniex had already got stripped of some 50k dollars in bitcoins through a lame hole in their withdrawal system in 2014. All users ended up having to pay for the robbery by "giving up" a part of their funds.

No. Busoni paid everyone back over a period of time. He is one of the exchange owners who treated customers well under very difficult circumstances.

[tee-rex]

So, after this mess, where would you be moving your altcoins ?   (redsn0w, how about a poll ?  )

Poloniex  looks good so does alts.trade but that pretty basic judgment based on appearances only. No idea how they'd fair when hacked

Poloniex had already got stripped of some 50k dollars in bitcoins through a lame hole in their withdrawal system in 2014. All users ended up having to pay for the robbery by "giving up" a part of their funds.

No. Busoni paid everyone back over a period of time. He is one of the exchange owners who treated customers well under very difficult circumstances.

You are entitled to think so indeed, but nevertheless, many would obviously disagree with you that forcibly taking a part of someone else's funds for covering one's own faults could go as "treating customers well". He didn't sell out his own assets to cover the losses, to begin with.

[bri912678]

Which coins are only on Bter and no other exchange?

AC Cryptsy
ARCH Cryptsy, Bittrex
ATOMIC   NXT Assets (means selling for nxt on nxt decentral exchange?)
AUR   Cryptsy
BAY   Bittrex
BBR   Bittrex, Poloniex
BITGLD   Bit Assets
BLK   Black coin trading everywhere
BLOCK   Bittrex, Poloniex
BQC   Cryptsy
BTB   Cryptsy
BTCD   Cryptsy, Bittrex, Poloniex
BTS   Btc38, Bittrex, Poloniex
BUK   Cryptsy
C2   Poloniex
CDC   -none-
CKC   Cryptsy, Bittrex, Bleutrade
CMC   Cryptsy
CNC   Cryptsy
COMM   Cryptsy, Allcrypt
DGC   Cryptsy, Btc38, Bittrex, Swisscess
DICE   NXT Assets
DNS   -none-
DOGE   Doge coin trading everywhere
DRK   Drk coin trading everywhere
DRKC   Cryptsy
DTC   Coins-e
IFC    Cryptsy, Poloniex
EXC   -none-
FLT   Cryptsy, Poloniex
FRC   Cryptsy, Bleutrade
FRSH   -none-
FTC   Cryptsy
GEMZ   Bittrex, Poloniex
GHOST   -none-
GML   Cryptsy, Poloniex
KDC   Cryptsy
LTC   trading everywhere
LTS   -none-
MAX   Cryptsy, Bittrex
MEC   Cryptsy, Btc38
MGW   NXT Assets
MINT   Cryptsy, Poloniex
MMC   Poloniex
MRKT   NXT Assets
MSC   Cryptsy??
NAS   Btc38
NAV   Cryptsy, bittrex, poloniex
NBT   Poloniex, Allcoin, CCED and so on
NEC   Cryptsy
NET   Cryptsy
NFD   -none-
NMC   Btc-e
NODE   Alcurex
NSR   Poloniex, Allcoin, CCED
NTX   Poloniex
NXT   NXT - coin a lot of place for trading
NXTTY   NXT asset
PPC   Btc-e
PRT   Allcrypt
PTS   - dead coin? switched to bts?
QORA   Poloniex
QRK   Cryptsy, Btc38
ROX   Coins-e
SFR   Cryptsy, Bittrex
SLM   -none-
SPARK   -none-
SRC   Cryptsy, Btc38
SWIFT   Cryptsy, Bittrex
TAG   Cryptsy, btc38
TOKEN   ??
UNITY   Nxt Asset Exchange
VIA   Cryptsy, Bittrex, Poloniex      
VRC   Cryptsy, Bittrex, Poloniex
VTC   Cryptsy
WDC   Cryptsy, Btc38 and et
XC   Cryptsy, Bittrex, Poloniex
XCH   Poloniex
XCN   Poloniex
XCP   Poloniex, Bittrex
XCR   Cryptsy
XMR   Poloniex, Bittrex
XPM   Cryptsy, Btc38, Poloniex and et
XTC   Bitttrex
YAC   Cryptsy
ZCC   Cryptsy
ZET   Cryptsy, Bittrex

Thanks, so it's these

CDC   -none-
DNS   -none-
EXC   -none-
FRSH   -none-
GHOST   -none-
LTS   -none-
NFD   -none-
PTS   - dead coin? switched to bts?
SLM   -none-
SPARK   -none-
TOKEN   ??

[stdset]

I even can't find where to trade it exept bter???

NXT AE of course.

[bitcoinmar]

What the hell they doing today they delete NXT and add some shit coins for withdraw any opinion about this from members are they still going to pay us or no ?

[tee-rex]

What the hell they doing today they delete NXT and add some shit coins for withdraw any opinion about this from members are they still going to pay us or no ?

Most obviously, they are buying time right now, though this in no case means that they are going to scam. There are a thousand reasons why they might be doing this aside from just running away with our money.

[Kn_os]

What the hell they doing today they delete NXT and add some shit coins for withdraw any opinion about this from members are they still going to pay us or no ?

Bter Support (bter)
Feb 28, 15:55

Dear Sir,
The withdrawal of cryptocurrencies will be enabled gradually.
We will enable the other altcoin withdrawals very soon. No worry.

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They keep telling that they will open all.. I still do not lost hope..

[toknormal]

They keep telling that they will open all.. I still do not lost hope..

If it makes anyone feel better, go and look at the "Dividends and Interest" section of your account.

You should see most of your altcoin balances there even though you can't withdraw them right now.

I find that encouraging.

[tee-rex]

They keep telling that they will open all.. I still do not lost hope..

If it makes anyone feel better, go and look at the "Dividends and Interest" section of your account.

You should see most of your altcoin balances there even though you can't withdraw them right now.

I find that encouraging.

And you can even get interest daily, if this alleviates your suffering a little.

[blueshoe]

Strange ... i got in 'My Daily Interest' some btc satoshi ... And there is standing that i have 0.01 btc ...
I got interest for 100 doge also ...

edit @tee-rex:
Funny at the same time we are looking in 'My Daily Interest'

[zazarb]

I saw that added next 9 alcoin to withdraw list

[bri912678]

I saw that added next 9 alcoin to withdraw list

Maybe they should add all at once. why only 9 coins now ?

I'm grateful we can withdraw nine, it's a good sign that we will be able to withdraw the others soon.

[Cassius]

So, after this mess, where would you be moving your altcoins ?   (redsn0w, how about a poll ?  )

Poloniex  looks good so does alts.trade but that pretty basic judgment based on appearances only. No idea how they'd fair when hacked

Poloniex had already got stripped of some 50k dollars in bitcoins through a lame hole in their withdrawal system in 2014. All users ended up having to pay for the robbery by "giving up" a part of their funds.

No. Busoni paid everyone back over a period of time. He is one of the exchange owners who treated customers well under very difficult circumstances.

You are entitled to think so indeed, but nevertheless, many would obviously disagree with you that forcibly taking a part of someone else's funds for covering one's own faults could go as "treating customers well". He didn't sell out his own assets to cover the losses, to begin with.

Everyone got their money back. Under the circumstances, I know which I'd prefer to lose money on.
It was a relatively small amount, of course. But BTER is being less than transparent and I simply don't see how they'll make good on this.

[tee-rex]

So, after this mess, where would you be moving your altcoins ?   (redsn0w, how about a poll ?  )

Poloniex  looks good so does alts.trade but that pretty basic judgment based on appearances only. No idea how they'd fair when hacked

Poloniex had already got stripped of some 50k dollars in bitcoins through a lame hole in their withdrawal system in 2014. All users ended up having to pay for the robbery by "giving up" a part of their funds.

No. Busoni paid everyone back over a period of time. He is one of the exchange owners who treated customers well under very difficult circumstances.

You are entitled to think so indeed, but nevertheless, many would obviously disagree with you that forcibly taking a part of someone else's funds for covering one's own faults could go as "treating customers well". He didn't sell out his own assets to cover the losses, to begin with.

Everyone got their money back. Under the circumstances, I know which I'd prefer to lose money on.
It was a relatively small amount, of course. But BTER is being less than transparent and I simply don't see how they'll make good on this.

This is a crucial point. I would agree that this may look better (or promising) given the present circumstances (known past vs unknown future). But what if (and this is a big if really) bter allows the withdrawal of all funds (including bitcoins) without limitation and expropriation right tomorrow? Would you still think the same, i.e. poloniex being better than bter in this context?

Besides that, you are being inconsistent here. At first you say that "the exchange owners treated customers well under very difficult circumstances", and then you say that "it was a relatively small amount, of course".