galdur
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February 26, 2015, 09:21:35 PM |
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Please, please don´t quote that friggin´fruitcake. The less I see of it the better and preferably nothing at all. Forever.
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NotLambchop
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February 26, 2015, 09:24:22 PM |
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... If we wanted to run away with any of the funds, we wouldn't post anything here and reply to emails or answer the phone. ... Why not? Danny Brewster [your ticker: NEOBEE] posted many times after he ran, so did Ukyo Jon and TF. Since (for some reason) no one expects you to post--why not do it? I would. Full Disclosure: NotLambchop has visited our office many times before and works for us to make sure all of the Havelock post are kept at the top of the Securities thread. Just look at all his past posts as proof. Thank you NotLambchop for your hard work and dedication. /S I'm glad to be here 4 u in your time of need (totally not laughing, honest Havelock!) to buoy up your spirits! Keep securing that security, no rush. These things take time! ~Happy Investing!
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bubbaj
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February 26, 2015, 09:26:14 PM |
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Bitcoins were not lost during our down-time.
Your Bitcoins are your Bitcoins. You will receive them as soon as possible.
We understand the obvious concerns that everyone feels at this time.
The issue is with the site and not with our Database or the Wallet.
If we wanted to run away with any of the funds, we wouldn't post anything here and reply to emails or answer the phone.
Thank you,
The Havelock Investments Team.
And just when may your scam site be back up and running.
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NotLambchop
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February 26, 2015, 09:31:39 PM |
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... no one expects you to post--why not do it? I would. We know you would. It's your day job. And evening hobby. Nah, you're just a paranoiac, and, like all paranoiacs, you suspect all the wrong people of planning to do you harm. I don't--but it IS funny watching you rage at the only guy here who told you this would happen ~Happy Investing!
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February 27, 2015, 12:07:38 AM |
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Havelock - After this much downtime I hope you are going to clear the order book before coming back up.
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Puppet
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February 27, 2015, 09:21:09 AM |
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Thank you NotLambchop for your hard work and dedication.
I find this a highly inappropriate time for you to make jokes. I also struggle to understand or rather: believe, how a planned website front end update could cause any site, let alone an exchange, to be down for 2 weeks. If you planned an update and found it didnt work, the obvious thing to do would be to roll back to the old site until the new one was ready. This downtime shows a level of incompetence not even shown by Ukyo or Nefario. Either that, or you're not telling the full story.
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Dexter770221
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February 27, 2015, 10:26:18 AM Last edit: February 27, 2015, 01:52:06 PM by Dexter770221 |
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Conspiracy theory: They know something about AM or AMHASH. So they are creating mess and want to buy shares very cheap....
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Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors. Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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bubbaj
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February 27, 2015, 10:27:36 AM |
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I am now prepared to call either hacked or a scam considering they hold payments in escrow. By the way if this is the case my initial statement that they are cunt's stand
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RoadStress
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February 27, 2015, 11:43:50 AM |
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Your Bitcoins are your Bitcoins. You will receive them as soon as possible. ... The issue is with the site and not with our Database or the Wallet. ... The Havelock Investments Team.
Just discovered this. Since you admit that the issue is not with the Database or the Wallet then why not prove it?
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cloh76
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February 27, 2015, 12:12:52 PM |
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T-Minus 3 days and counting...
Hopefully the site will be back up on Monday as stated
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cdanilo
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February 27, 2015, 04:00:38 PM |
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Its just not proper way of implementing new site (or improvements). You leave old site running as it is, build - test and re-test test site and then you just need few hours max to get new site going live. What you are doing (if indeed rebuilding site) is equal to company suicide.
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February 27, 2015, 06:36:55 PM |
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Thank you for the news Havelock Team
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nubbins
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February 27, 2015, 06:52:41 PM |
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This is all completely absurd.
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Back in Summer 2013, I discovered that Havelock's website -- in particular, its Withdraw Funds and Xfer Shares functions -- were vulnerable to a VERY, VERY BASIC, VERY AMATEUR vulnerability known as a CSRF (Cross-Site Request Forgery).
How amateur? Amateur enough that just by visiting a website with a single malicious line of HTML while logged in, your entire account could be drained.
Incidentally, BTCTCTCTCT or whatever it's called was vulnerable to this exact same vulnerability at the same time.
I verified that this was as serious as I thought it was by successfully draining all of the shares and all of the BTC from my own account into a dummy account set up for this purpose.
I then had to actually explain to Havelock how to fix the vulnerability in order for them to actually fix it. They fixed it for the withdrawal page that day, and promised to update the rest of the pages next week.
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Fast-forward to the Q3 HIF financial report, and you can see that they're actually too goddamn lazy to change the name of all three months in their copied-and-pasted reports, bothering only to update the part where all the money is gone.
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Fast-forward to last week, and they find an issue with their website, and they've spent a week trying to decipher what the problem is. A week. Maybe it's time to, I don't know, ask an adult for help?
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It's not malice, it's stupidity.
I'm sorry for all of your losses.
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February 27, 2015, 07:50:30 PM |
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If only there was an exchange that didn't issue you a wallet or accept user deposits...
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February 27, 2015, 09:51:15 PM |
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Thank you for the news Havelock Team
you're kidding right? they should have at least emailed every user with a boilerplate apology/excuse/guarantee of safe funds. and by safe funds I mean all the fuckin' shares I hold better still be there! as far as I can tell there is only one guy working there, same as cavirtex. too fuckin cheap to hire some CAPABLE staff
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February 27, 2015, 11:56:12 PM |
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flame1012
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February 28, 2015, 01:08:26 AM |
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The coinworld seriously needs a decentralized hack proof infrastructure, with all these scams and hacks going on.
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> ALL cloudmining companies are SCAM <
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bobboooiie
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February 28, 2015, 09:37:21 AM |
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Who in the world would keep that much BTC @ havelock ? there isnt even 100btc weekly trading volume... then again what do I know I saw people do bigger shit
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primeminer
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February 28, 2015, 11:24:34 AM |
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havelock from am sales made about 180 btc sales commission since then it was about .5 btc a week from trading and withdrawal fees - average trading volume and estimated 300 withdrawals a week.
question is whats better having cookie giving little crumbs or eating a cake?
only time will show
the other funds were clear ponzis and they were powered by am when am stopped (paused) payments the stream making it flowing stopped and made whole havelock influent so we experienced maintenance... The timing of alleged come back fits the frame of expected am hash dividends payout
..just saying....
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February 28, 2015, 12:07:19 PM |
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havelock from am sales made about 180 btc sales commission since then it was about .5 btc a week from trading and withdrawal fees - average trading volume and estimated 300 withdrawals a week.
question is whats better having cookie giving little crumbs or eating a cake?
only time will show
the other funds were clear ponzis and they were powered by am when am stopped (paused) payments the stream making it flowing stopped and made whole havelock influent so we experienced maintenance... The timing of alleged come back fits the frame of expected am hash dividends payout
..just saying....
agree
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