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June 16, 2013, 10:15:11 AM
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This thread has derailed to btc-e trollbox where everyone keeps on speculating about 0.0001 changes in asicminer passthrough prices. If people want to fill up 3 pages with mindless chatter about this then they should start a thread about this.
This is a 386 pages thread, which makes no sense at all.
It should have been closed and opened as a full subforum long ago.

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June 16, 2013, 10:16:19 AM
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Just posting another reminder for those that have questions for friedcat. A few of us have started to compile questions for submission. Please keep in mind that it is very possible he may not answer some/any questions but would still like to submit them, on behalf of the "minority shareholders."

The plan is to submit these questions on a monthly basis.

Use "Q/A for ASICMiner" for the subject line.

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On the Point of a Sub-forum it is a lot of pages
Not sure if one security merits it though but could be handy for a bitcointalk area
Unless you meant an official website and/or blog outside of the bitcointalk forums

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June 16, 2013, 10:26:34 AM
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This is a 386 pages thread, which makes no sense at all.
It should have been closed and opened as a full subforum long ago.

THIS.

Longest thread I ever COMPLETELY read was 96 pages, and it wasn't on this forum. People are at each other's throats here, any thread longer than 5 posts is guaranteed to have at least a few insults or an argument tossed around.

Almost every single subforum here has threads that are too long to manage. Nobody has the time to sift through 400 pages of posts on every topic they're curious about.

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June 16, 2013, 10:52:24 AM
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Not sure if one security merits it though but could be handy for a bitcointalk area
It does, for the simple reason that people are posting here in this thread, instead.

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June 16, 2013, 10:57:32 AM
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Not sure if one security merits it though but could be handy for a bitcointalk area
It does, for the simple reason that people are posting here in this thread, instead.


Good point not sure where the bitcointalk suggestion thread is but could request it there
(Think it exists)

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June 16, 2013, 12:21:50 PM
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To initiate a transfer, do I just PM friedcat with prof of key ownership? The reason I ask is because the shares were bought privately through a irl friend so I did nothing other than providing a key for dividends. Thank you

Hmmm... This sounds like a peculiar way to buy shares.  Did you buy these shares before you even had an account at bitcointalk.org?  I was under the impression that friedcat maintained a shareholder database that included the bitcointalk.org usernames for all of the directly owned shares as well as their e-mail address.

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June 16, 2013, 12:37:57 PM
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To initiate a transfer, do I just PM friedcat with prof of key ownership? The reason I ask is because the shares were bought privately through a irl friend so I did nothing other than providing a key for dividends. Thank you

Hmmm... This sounds like a peculiar way to buy shares.  Did you buy these shares before you even had an account at bitcointalk.org?  I was under the impression that friedcat maintained a shareholder database that included the bitcointalk.org usernames for all of the directly owned shares as well as their e-mail address.

I think that your impression is wrong, the only thing that's in the database afaik:

- e-mail
- bitcoin address
- amount of shares

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June 16, 2013, 12:54:05 PM
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To initiate a transfer, do I just PM friedcat with prof of key ownership? The reason I ask is because the shares were bought privately through a irl friend so I did nothing other than providing a key for dividends. Thank you

Hmmm... This sounds like a peculiar way to buy shares.  Did you buy these shares before you even had an account at bitcointalk.org?  I was under the impression that friedcat maintained a shareholder database that included the bitcointalk.org usernames for all of the directly owned shares as well as their e-mail address.

I think that your impression is wrong, the only thing that's in the database afaik:

- e-mail
- bitcoin address
- amount of shares
I've had shares transferred to me with just a PM from the previous owner to friedcat.  What's the purpose of collecting e-mail addresses of the new owner if shares can be transferred with a PM?  Seems to me that friedcat is willing to accept a PM or an e-mail from a shareholder in order to complete a transfer.

Also, how does friedcat validate that someone owns shares when they hold an auction here on the forum if he doesn't track usernames of shareholders?

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June 16, 2013, 01:13:34 PM
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Also, how does friedcat validate that someone owns shares when they hold an auction here on the forum if he doesn't track usernames of shareholders?

By signing a message from the address in the database.
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June 16, 2013, 01:35:14 PM
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Also, how does friedcat validate that someone owns shares when they hold an auction here on the forum if he doesn't track usernames of shareholders?
By signing a message from the address in the database.

Sure, that's how it could (and maybe should) be done, but according to TAT's escrow agreement from my last share purchase:

"Friedcat does not normally require signing a message from the Seller's shareholding wallet, but you are welcome to do so when requesting the transfer."

This seems to indicate that he is tracking the usernames of current shareholders and if he receives a PM from that username requesting that a number of shares be transferred to a different bitcoin address, then he complies.

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June 16, 2013, 02:18:30 PM
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Since people have a problem with us talking about the share price of a security in the security thread, I've started an AM speculation thread over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235763

Be kind, it's just opinions and speculation and my life savings...

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June 16, 2013, 02:33:22 PM
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Be kind, it's just opinions and speculation and my life savings...

What's the first rule about investment / speculation. Never risk more than you can afford to lose ........ oh dear  Huh

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June 16, 2013, 02:36:11 PM
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Be kind, it's just opinions and speculation and my life savings...

What's the first rule about investment / speculation. Never risk more than you can afford to lose ........ oh dear  Huh
All or nothing, baby!

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June 16, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
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Also, how does friedcat validate that someone owns shares when they hold an auction here on the forum if he doesn't track usernames of shareholders?
By signing a message from the address in the database.

Sure, that's how it could (and maybe should) be done, but according to TAT's escrow agreement from my last share purchase:

"Friedcat does not normally require signing a message from the Seller's shareholding wallet, but you are welcome to do so when requesting the transfer."

This seems to indicate that he is tracking the usernames of current shareholders and if he receives a PM from that username requesting that a number of shares be transferred to a different bitcoin address, then he complies.

What if a shareholder dies and one of their descendants wants to sell the share or have the e-mail address changed?

Or a shareholder gets banned from Bitcointalk.org and doesn't have access to PM anymore?

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Be kind, it's just opinions and speculation and my life savings...

What's the first rule about investment / speculation. Never risk more than you can afford to lose ........ oh dear  Huh
All or nothing, baby!

Yep, gambler's statement and gambler's mentality. Problem is winning streaks always come to an end, and if you are always always in, you are guaranteed "bust" down the line.

Its good you've opened another thread though where you can stress about every tick up or down in the share price, because as you've pointed out, you've invested everything you have in it. Good luck anyway.
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Yep, gambler's statement and gambler's mentality. Problem is winning streaks always come to an end, and if you are always always in, you are guaranteed "bust" down the line.

Its good you've opened another thread though where you can stress about every tick up or down in the share price, because as you've pointed out, you've invested everything you have in it. Good luck anyway.

thanks for the advice.  remind me to send you a sense of humor one of these days...

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Or a shareholder gets banned from Bitcointalk.org and doesn't have access to PM anymore?

This is where friedcat having a shareholder's e-mail address on file comes in.  It would be an alternative means of informing friedcat that you want to transfer shares.

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June 16, 2013, 03:14:25 PM
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How many shares does ASICMiner keep for themselves, and how many are for the public?
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June 16, 2013, 03:22:21 PM
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How many shares does ASICMiner keep for themselves, and how many are for the public?

From the OP:

"Currently ASICMINER shareholders holds 163,962 shares, while Bitfountain shareholders holds 236,038 shares."

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June 16, 2013, 03:26:02 PM
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How many shares does ASICMiner keep for themselves, and how many are for the public?

From the OP:

"Currently ASICMINER shareholders holds 163,962 shares, while Bitfountain shareholders holds 236,038 shares."

A share in ASICMINER is actually a share in Bitfountain.

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