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                                                                   A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice

Blockchain has reached the peak of its capabilities. With every new project appearing in this area it becomes obvious that there is no way for further revolutionary blockchain development, except in small improvements and workarounds from the original Bitcoin blockchain. The scheme ingenious in its simplicity, due to this simplicity is extremely rigid. There is a growing need for a new paradigm that while retaining the base features of blockchain will allow for more complex interactions and more flexible structure on a global scale.

The Monolithic nature of blockchain that makes immutability possible at the same time renders scalability impossible. There are workarounds, but they are neither inherent nor reliable.

We need to go further with caveats that give birth to a new scheme altogether, but with blockchain in mind. The History of blockchain development clearly shows that while it was an elegant and efficient scheme at first, with more and more added functionalities it became bloated and maze-like. There is no viable decentralized solution to return to simplicity except by providing a new scheme with more degrees of freedom.

We are in process of introducing a revolutionary change in cryptocurrency. It will be a new coin, but no longer under the conventional blockchain protocol, instead a multi-dimensional lattice structure, known as Bitlattice.

Bitlattice is a new paradigm and fundamentally different from Bitcoin and the major alt-coin protocols. It is something very novel and experimental. Bitlattice mitigates many common issues in the classic blockchain including scalability, timing, complexity, and the inability to have independent oracles.

Blockchain as a technology is already quite old. The majority of the underlying protocol on the Bitcoin blockchain is reasonable. However, there are some points that hamper wide and eager adoption of it. For example, well-known scalability issues stemming from the flatness of the chain (and few other factors as well). Time stamping problems stemming from the distributed peer-to-peer architecture that actually wasn't designed for this purpose (while there are many different implementations of p2p protocols in general, they differ with only a handful of schemes).

There are also higher level issues, like which proof to pick, what prioritization to set, how miners are placed inside a network and many more. All of them have certain benefits and drawbacks.

Our project differs substantially from traditional projects because it is not a blockchain. While it still provides the same fundamental benefits, lattice architecture is totally different thus providing additional benefits and solving several inherent blockchain issues.

It's lattice retaining some chain's properties. Actually, at the present stage of research it’s a five-dimensional lattice interconnected with curves, and can be portrayed with directed graphs. It can be collapsed to one-dimensional chain which provides the same immutability the current blockchain provides. But at the same time it provides means for features like lattice encryption.

There is one additional funny side-effect of the structure I have in mind. Such network could potentially act as a neural network and be able to self-organize to a certain extent.

My friend, neurobiologist, compared my idea exactly to a Neural Network. And there is some truth in this comparison. Up to the point that one of the features in my idea acts exactly as synapses and I also postulate homomorphically encrypted seeded entities acting as local authorities and being "hidden variables" of this network, something that can be compared to a primitive consciousness.

Such an approach, with technical details will describe when I'm sure that everything works as expected on a prototype level.

Everyone can join now provided that they conform to my foundational Bitlattice idea - this is to prevent mess and encourage a cohesive team with preset goals. We are looking for visionaries like us, people who are open-minded and courageous enough to thump conservatism and bring the lattice protocol to the mainstream cryptocurrency world.

Thank you,

Hibryda


 Take a look at a newly released document on https://bitlattice.org (https://bitlattice.org)

The paper presents the possibilities of Bitlattice, its superiority of concept and the innovative way distributed data storage and processing is
organized and performs.

  
Link to the website http://bitlattice.org/ (http://bitlattice.org/)
Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/bitlattice (https://twitter.com/bitlattice)
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People interested in supporting Bitlattice should be aware that the only authorized way to contact the Core Team is by mailing us
at bitlattice@protonmail.com and bitlattice@bitlattice.org

youre not explain in this thread about youre project
and explain bitlattice coin, about total suply bitlattice coin, tipe coin , and about bitlattice ico selling and bounty

There are 3 steps of the project:
1 - theoretical research with proof of concept code examples.
2 - implementation
3 - deployment and issuance

We are at research & developmental stage. This step is meant to yield both refined theoretical basis in form of final WhitePaper and example code fragments that can serve as proofs of concept. Actually some parts of this concept are ready today, some must be refined, some decided yet.

As to  deciding supply -
-supply, being bound to usability rather than to theoretical caveats, should be decided at second step. Myself I tend to favor low number fixed supply (Bitcoin like). Anti-deflational strategy of Ether convinces me not. The supply will most likely be provided by miners (however there are other possible solutions at hand) obliged to calculate lattice weight function from a full node. The difficulty must be set at this stage. If someone convinces me that never ending supply, or fluid supply is better, can change my stance.

As to deciding divisability -
-as currency is just a number it can be decided what minimum unit is allowed (and what to do with remainder if any). My current stance is 9 decimal places in both directions from comma (30 bits unsigned in every direction). But it can be set almost without limitations (except more bytes to hold a value).

As to ICO - did't decided yet.

bitlattice.org (http://bitlattice.org)

is dis your ann?  ::) just asking

I support Hibryda and this project which will revolutionise the crypto currency world.

too vague to understand what is the real goal, or even what you meant to say as posting this here  ???

Having been privy to more detailed info regarding the concepts and early technical details of this Bitlattice project - I will be watching this space closely.

Welcome to the World Bitlattice

Regards to you both Hibryda and wtfc360

Good luck with this project and I hope to offer assistance on this project to you in the future.


Cheers - usukan

Not really sure what is being announced here. Seems to be in such stage of infancy that there's not much to elaborate on. But just in case there is some new revolutionary thing going on here I'll keep an eye on it  :-X

waiting the continuation of this project, I keep an eye on this thread

Yeah. they are talking like they were stoned  :D

Haha - please note that English is not Hibryda's first language and that may contribute to your perception on that.

Try explaining your Pink Dog in Swedish - you might end up far worse than sounding stoned.


BTW - what on earth is Pink Dog anyway?  Looks pretty vague to me? I take it that its just a joke coin?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1789357.0

lel, ok, fair enough ;)


Pink Dog is not my coin ahahah. Im just a miner and enthusiast of another shitcoin. And yes, its for being a joke coin that is fun  :D

Yes, it can transform society. Because it gives some tools that are impossible with standard blockchain. You probably heard of mesh nets, wots and alike. In my lattice they will be just a natural consequence of using it. Because mesh networks are lattices actually, right?

How lattice differs from chain - one dimensional structures aren't natural in our three (or four, or eleven, or two, depending whom you ask and which theory is concerned) dimensional world. Lattices are natural.

As to possible applications in real world - micro democracies, multi level ones and alike. I have an approach that things should be built from bottom up with consciousness of every society member in mind. One cannot build efficient and sane social system without having all participants really participating. And what is reality - you can see on your own. Idiots everywhere :)

Yes, but I'm high as hell also, so we should understand ;D


And on that note, your words have me intrigued, so I will continue to listen...

 No longer blockchain !So,your project and your coin will be using alt blockchain? blockchain provide new technology to cryptocurrencies.

  what is type of new technology your project will provide to cryptocurrencies?

Thank you very much Usukan. We would love to have you on board!

I think i got it.. Ambitious project if they can make it.
So, basically you guys want to create another kind of blockchain... instead of the traditional legder - unidimensional - block after block, same chain.... you guys want multiple levels with chains that will make connection with each other if needed... right, or too far from your idea?

Let's see this theory made into a working network. Please, not in 8 years. Words are beautiful, but substance is needed.

i will wait open bounty

Can you give us an example of a real application?

In the present scheme of blockchain there is no possibility to perform more than two operations at once, stemming from the fact that every next blocks depends on the previous. Of course this is mitigated by packing multiple transactions into one block and hashing them collectively. But it’s far from concurrency, rather it’s just a way to deal with this very limited structure. In lattice things are different. There are multiple root points that are referred to from the main root. It resembles child chains in some applications, but is very different on the basic level of functionality.
With lattice, many operations can be performed at the same moment in time by different miners/processing units. And still the whole structure will retain integrity. Because clusters can but usually won’t overlap.

Wider area of application.
Internet of Things (IoT) and mobile devices currently have problems with chain applications because such applications require lots of resources. Even light clients won't solve the issue, as they still need some chain synchronization and often it is still a lot of data exchanged. Even if the data-transferring wasn’t an issue, the synchronization leaves room for attack vectors due to their dependence on external full nodes. BitLattice will require only having knowledge of the local cluster (with size not being hard set - every size will fit). It will be in discretion of the device to ease work by extending the cluster if performing border-crossing operations turns out to be more expensive). More, even crossing border will be far less costly than comparable chain operations as the only proof required would be proof of subtle structure. Which can be performed with GPU cores as it's based on parametric curves.

As to other DApps that can show superiority. IoT real time ones, for instance. With no lags and timeouts. Just performing in miliseconds. No bc based solution can offer this. I can think about other DApps - you please think too. I develop my idea since a year now and last thing I thought are toys. The scheme itself is stunningly efficient.

Bitlattice mitigates many common issues in the classic blockchain, for instance

Scalability.
Ethereum tries to deal with it with light client, and Bitcoin with Lightning Network. Both their solutions (and many others) are just workarounds. They may work in the short-term. In long - lack of the ability of the blockchain to be scaled is inherent. It’s a one dimensional structure where beginning depends on end and vice versa. There is no good solution to split it. With multidimensional (3+2) scheme of lattice there are actually several strategies that enable scaling. Both atomic and more general. And it’s inherent. So, in simple words, an inherent feature of the blockchain is it’s un-scalability, INHERENT FEATURE OF LATTICE IS SCALABILITY.

lattice's clusters can operate independently while still retaining integrity. Thus there is no need of full nodes when certain network saturation is achieved. Because most of the info isn't stored in blocks – it’s stored in the subtle structure of lattice. In homomorphic transformations leading to certain arrangement of lattice (using a rather popular science analogy -  it's like the data storage in a hologram. Not exact, but gives an idea). All in five dimensions (because it gives enough capacity for the system itself to live till the end of universe without risk of being overflown, while still being easy to calculate). So, this system is planned to be scalable from the very beginning. Also, what is actually impossible with a blockchain solution, lattice enables concurrent operations (as long as they don't cross the boundary of two or more clusters that are subject to some operations).

really bold and cool idea，the world need different innovation

but specific plan still not clear , keep following your next step. come on。。。

We work on substance and we are probably the only people now, most interested in making it real as soon as possible.
I am not so young, in 8 years I can have Alzheimer so better sooner  ;D
However in such case I will anyway forget what is it about.

will wait for further details of this project.
coz there's too much words here.  ;D
waiting for the specs & other vital info.

Our 5 laptops now turned into portable heaters. We test multiple scenarios. It's hard to speed it up, but we do our best and will keep you updated.

Thank you Hibryda for your remarkable answers. I got the main ideia and Ill look forward to see you accomplish of the next steps.

Success for you and your team. Ill follow you guys

Interesting indeed.

Will keep an eye out.

Ticker? BTL, BLX, BTX, LCE, LXT, LAT   ::)

When I'm sure that everything works as expected on a prototype level I will provide you with all technical details.

The third step - deployment and issuance will provide working cryptocurrency with all required infrastructure.

Okay.

So if I understand correctly, you are trying to make something that is a new kind of blockchain, in essence you are making some sort of "neural net

blockchain type structure"

Something roughly along those lines.....


https://i.stack.imgur.com/1bCQl.png


Could that be equated to some sort of AI blockchain?

Or am I just completely off the mark?

It's not so easy here to draw comparisons. First, you attached an image of some sort of graph. In practice unrelated to my idea. Of course, most interconnected structures can be pictured with graphs, Bitlattice as well. However not so regular.
As to neural net - most structures where nodes' output depends on some qualities of incoming multiple signals and retain a state are in a way neural networks. As in Bitlattice there will be a kind of synapses (tx vectors) with possible weighting it can work as NN. But it's not its primary feature. There will be also other means making the net potentially self equalizing. But this requires further research. Which is pending.
Anyway, I'll keep you updated as to what it will implement, as soon as I'm sure about details.
So, when Skynet will start all around here will be noticed first  ;D

that was an image of a neural net, not a graph.......

anyways, look forward to getting more info.

I did read your preliminary introduction on your website: http://bitlattice.org/

maybe you should include a picture of the structure of the bitlattice so people get a more thorough understanding because as they say, a picture speaks a thousand words....

good luck and I will be following with interest.

Hi PikachuYou

You showed a "diagram" of a 2 dimensional "artificial" neural network.  Its actually very simplistic compared to what Hibryda is talking about here - but you are heading along the right path to discovery and enlightenment (I did the same path myself).

This be a 3 dimensional lattice - try to imagine a 5 dimensional one............

I can't - but in the virtual world - it can exist.

Humans are limited to 3 dimensions - computers/mathematics are not.


https://i.imgur.com/nsqRLtJ.jpg

I am interested in adding this to http://icocountdown.com

Here is my contact:

Email: alex@icocountdown.com

Skype: icocountdown

Telegram: @Alexanderico

hi dev,
the idea is great ... 8)
I keep an eye on this thread  ;)

Thank you Usukan!
We will wait for you, join us when you are ready!

This is it folks, keep watching this thread, as you have already begun to understand, Bitlattice will be the new standard in crypto currencies,  a paradigm stift! Stay tuned, not stoned.

This was graph. Of some neural network. On the picture spatial positions of nodes have no importance. So, it's graph.

A little more about spatial matters. The choice of spatial abstraction serves one purpose. To leverage some properties of multidimensional objects. To give a trivial example, two different points in 3d space cannot occupy the same place in terms of coordinates - of course Euclidean space. There are more such properties.

At a certain moment I will produce a sketch. But pictures can be misleading. I prefer avoiding misunderstandings.

If you have time to write, I want you to proceed with development.

Intresting stuff. Following project

I can do Vietnamese translation for bounty if this project has a translation campaign :D

I develop it now full time, otherwise I wouldn't announce it here. Of course will update in some intervals and hope to have prototype working in pretty reasonable time.


We are still on very early stage, so now bounties and alike aren't our main concern. But we'll keep notice about you being first re: translations.

Can you give us an example please  ???

But example of what? Please elaborate. It's early stage devoted to research.

He already answered that  :)

If you want to support the project write to bitlattice@protonmail.com

I can do chinese translation for bounty if this project has a translation campaign

 ;D

It looks good stance.
I'll do korean translation and promotion.
It will be come out detailed prints.

I think you guys have not understood this thread/project  :)

I've wholey understand announcers saying. and idea.
I hope to be it realized.
Let's look at ..

 
We prepare FAQ.




 

You need a good "logo" too - MaStudio should be able to design something pretty exceptional.

i will wait youre coin project
wait about spefication coin, ico selling and then bounty too

 FAQ on bitlattice.org (http://bitlattice.org)

Will do it.

So ya, I commented earlier kinda snarky....but after looking into to the idea and reading your answers I gotta say I'm excited about this. You've got a really unique approach to some limitations of the current blockchain and it looks like you know what you want to fix and are ready to do it. I'm all ears, to quote your ANN, this looks like a revolutionary step...& I'll gladly participate in it.

Following this, always interested in real innovation.

Don't worry, now the FAQ is up and running, people can read and contemplate what this project is about. Of course it's vague with scarce information and you lack the complete picture.
Since a couple of months back I have been privy to some inside information, like Usukan, regarding this project and I'm have been and continuously reading/studying this from the basic (compliments of Hibryda). End point being that Hibryda knows how to make this happen from theory to practice.

  

Great logos, i like this
Goodjobs dev

Yes, great logo! Nice work MA-studio.

cool .

remark: do you ever considered logo can be designed base on word "B" (its named bitlattice and special chain different from blockchain, i think B PLUS )   what about "B+" ?  maybe with 3D effect is better.

Right! At the present stage Bitlattice is a 3+2 dimensional structure so we should think about such logo. Thank you

Symbols inspired by letter B is kinda thing thats played out two years ago. Go back where u crawled from and borrow creativity from inhabitants of that hole. When u bump urself with additional influx of creativity u will reinstall ur photoshop libraries and buy a license for software u use, otherwise u will end up making logos in paint.

I like the logo, looks interesting  :)

Feel free synthgauge to show everyone how great you are and show us your own creativity! No one is holding you back, we can use your constructive ideas and better symbols if it's an improvement, although it´s just a symbol my friend... Thanks for the input.

I love you trolls, keep going!

Oops, I got that wrong. Actually we don't need your advise... My bad.

Sorry bud, you may have missed the tone of my original post. I was at first skeptical but I've read everything I can and have been in contact with Hibryda and have gained some insight into this project, both through the conversations & my research. I can truly say I'm all aboard. Most people will shy away because this isn't the traditional Bitcointalk ANN with fancy images & specs & what not. They won't even bother to read the info , they just turn away. While my first post was based off the initial ANN, I'm not one of them. I've researched and talked to Hibryda and that's why I posted what I did. As I told Hibryda this IMO is one of only a couple projects that look to address the problems with new ideas, not the same clone shit with a different approach. He's firm in his ideas and knows how to solve the problems. As you already know, this is the future, and if pulled off it will be huge. Like you, I'm glad to offer my support.

How is this structure fundamentally different from the tangle, i.e. what IOTA is doing?  What is the consensus model?  How do you handle Double Spending?  What are some of the various attacks that can be done with this model?

(from website bitlattice.org)

Can you expand on this?  I don't see how lattice encryption can be achieved from this structure. 


(from bitlattice.org)

I'm having a hard time parsing this statement.  What are the local authorities doing with HE?  And why bring in hidden variables to the mix? 

(from bitlattice.org/faq)

What precise transformations?

(from bitlattice.org/faq)

I hope that's true as the current math available to this idea is extremely lacking ...

Thanks for questions.
This structure is fundamentally different in actually one aspect - abstract position of a node (tx or other native object) plays a role in further processing. Which is fundamental. Of course, down the line, all is being casted into graph of dependencies (and finally onto linear stream of bytes). Handy analogy here is in 3d emulation in games or other software. Some operations are first performed between 3d objects (like raycasting for instance), some are performed using graph representation of scene layout (FOV), finally all lands in some files. Each abstraction uses different properties of objects in question.
The consensus model that I prefer to apply is adjusted to this scheme PoS.
DS - as above.
Yet, I can change my mind in near future as I recently stumbled upon several interesting properties of my network that can be used to simplify consensus.
Attacks - depending on whether fully homomorphic entities work as expected, this network will not be forkable, thus no 51%. As to other attacks - Sybil is mainly a matter of chosen p2p base. I have to decide yet which one to use. Attacks based on mining would probably not apply. Also the time frame of confirmations from the network can render unconfirmed txs attacks futile. But the above is just an initial analysis that I can provide now, some factors can change situation in the future.

Lattice is a structure where distance plays a role. For instance, shortest one. Or rather determination which is the shortest provided having some basis initial vectors supplying initial conditions. My structure actually is L^2 vector space. And on many steps I can provide a set of non co-linear vectors to leverage SVP or its variations.


Bear in mind that I tried to answer questions you found in FAQ in simplest way I could. Not always succeeded :) .
Local authorities are meant to be encrypted small programs that produce both encrypted and plain (or encrypted with known keys) output. As to hidden variables - they are meant to be the source of such variables. Variables that are intended to give incorruptible base for further operations.


Here again is a problem with 'lattice' and 'lattice' in two meanings, I suppose. Short, two points cannot occupy the same place in metric space. In such case they are equal. Moving a set of points by a vector in metric space preserves their structure. And so on...

I'd like to point out that this is very early announcement. And contrary to popular trend I prefer having fully functional and reliable scheme before publishing, instead of running all the time on beta versions :) .
And when I'll be damn sure about my postulates, I'll publish all in detail.

Looking forward to the new math ...

Wouldn't be new, just with emphasis on different things.

Ok, great! We appreciate the support!

We've updated our website to be more in line with 3d :) - please test by going to bitlattice.org/test (http://bitlattice.org/test) . If everything works well we'll switch to it. Currently it was tested in Chrome, FF and IE Edge (had to dust off Win for this task).
Furthermore, we'll add chat and/or forum in some not too distant future.

Yes, works nice on Chrome!

U are fundamentally wrong about everything. Time elapses but u still have things undone, and burden of sorrow keeps u from moving forward towards new accomplishments because u are an ill minded flight attendant that mistakenly stumbled upon crypto thread during his everyday wanking rituals.

Keep going!
Just in case, when you practice reading+understanding re-read intro post :)

If it hasn't been peer reviewed or published in any other form ... seems like it's newly discovered, hence new.

Either way, looking forward to it.

If it's based on existing math (as most things around) with some added value, only this added value would be new. I don't like "discovery" word in such matters, better "new arrangement". Regardless definitions, I will keep you updated.

So..a blockchain is a chain of blocks. But Bitlatice is not a blockchain. So what is is?

Does it have blocks of information that get verified? 

Can you explain a little more what the "lattice"is. It's not clear.

Thanks

I think this can help you ;)

Thank you, but TBH, I still don't understand what that is.
In a blockchain, the new block refers back to the previous block, but in bitlattice the new block refers back to.......what?

It can be a new block in a new chain!

You can always discover a new arrangement; however you are right, and as such it doesn't matter and is just word play. 

Looking forward to the updates. 

8)

What does that block refer back to?
Are new chains being created that do not need to refer back to their original roots?

Is this anything like the slicing that HEAT is looking to do?

Or anything like Byteball?

Forgive my interruption of your discuss...
First - not blocks, I call it nodes (because they differ from what is called blocks in blockchain). Second, provided more degrees of freedom they refer to from 4 to 26 other nodes. They must match combined hash and number of nodes included in such hash determines moment when the node was added.
//EDIT: One thing to add, testing order of insertion can possibly act as PoW provided there are time expensive hashing algos used. I prefer PoS, so this can act as a curiosity or be used for other purposes.

Thank you. Now, I know what a block is. And a block must contain information. It's pedigree, and cryptographic information etc....

But what information is in a Bitlattice node?

Each node contains combined hash and time of insertion?  And this enables it (with the help of other nodes) to verify later information that is added?

Is this like Byteball then?

Of course must contain data. It's primary role of blockchain. It's just a database (with built in immutability of data) Whether it's money, code, or plain bytes - doesn't actually matter. The same with BL - it stores data. There are different kind of nodes depending of their role. Some store transactions, some code.
Each node contains combined hashes. In blockchain, as well as in BL storing timestamp isn't wise - first, it's easy to forge, second network latency plays a role. Instead, what counts is position in time - which is previous, which is current and which is next (this can be determined with proofs). In BL, thanks to dependency on other nodes, this sequence can be guessed. And yes, this enables it to be verified.
As to Byteball - fundamental difference is in structure. Byteball is built upon DAG, mine is much different.

I like where this is going. Continue with tests and experimentation! +1

keep going, i like this idea.

Please, please start with unit tests, so we can read and understand, the worst is when people jump into coding without writing tests first. Test-driven development is a must. I would say when dealing with money, anything under 75% code coverage is not good enough for a mainnet. Looking fwd to the tests so I can understand your system Hibryda,

Cheers,
Jag(From linked in)

Absolutely, agree. But before I'll jump into making a client I have to test multiple smaller chunks to prove they work. In addition to unit tests and proofs where possible, I will also employ stochastic testbed of my idea to find scenarios that are hard to predict (at least some of them). So, don't worry. Will have proper test coverage contrary to popular practice :) .

Thank you both for support - while it is supposed to take some time (not 8 years, not even a year) I will keep you updated.

I am going to publish here my answers to constructive questions from other resources too.

Q: Oracles are centralization components are you sure you need this esp at consensus level? How do you solve the byzantine generals problem with lattice structure?
H: I won't use oracles in current sense (what is in description now is often simplified to be easier to picture, but sometimes introduces interpretation problems). Oracles depend on external inputs, I use entities that derive their output only from internal (network wide) state.

As to BFT - the issue with BG is always when there are multiple "generals", thus authorities. There are basically two solutions to this - have one external supervisor (which is against all that BC represents) or play with roles and their dependencies (LSP). I suggest third - built in, network wide, distributed authority. Inaccessible by anyone. Just providing steering output.

Is there at least one website to visit? Why all this suspense? Is it ICO?
People are tired of being cheated!  :(

Here is the link to the website http://bitlattice.org/ (http://bitlattice.org/)
You can follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/bitlattice (https://twitter.com/bitlattice)

There is no ico plan, read previous posts and learn more.

great ,if any progress for bitlattice , let us know about it. thanks

if there is no ico plan
how can i join.
coding , btc,and ...
I can translate some things into Chinese

Nice to hear that Bitlattice project sparked your interest.
If you want to support it write to bitlattice@protonmail.com

I have sent an email and look forward to your reply

Thank you, answers should be on your box already:)

What I work at the moment - many things at once :) .
Just today and yesterday I tested some possible location sensitive hashing solutions to be mixed with cryptographic hashes of nodes.
The outcome is that the simplest and best solution is just to use simple indexing in this respect. Maybe not entirely simple as it's supposed to be base minus two or minus four. And stacked spirals :) . It's just most efficient.
 
Also today I discussed initial idea of protocols. While we could use existing ones they are far from quality of "industrial" heavy duty ones.
So, one of guys that offered his full engagement into my project will design and prepare implementation of a set of two protocols to serve as network basis for Bitlattice.
One of them is crucial, as it will serve as measuring protocol to define network surroundings of a client and provide broadcast about latency distribution. Frankly, I'm happy that someone would deal with these matters instead of me - it lets me focus solely on internal issues instead.
The guy is in financial networks and AI issues since many years. So can give it to him without fear.

These are only two days and major things I dealt in this time. If you are interested about some specific issues - ask. When time permits will answer.

  
   As to Artificial Intelligence - this is the basic idea of Bitlattice - to have built in control authority that cannot be read or affected from outside (encrypted end to end, providing just decrypted control output).
As to other AI considerations - while self defense is one thing, some more sophisticated mechanisms are possible.
If I manage to make it possible to seed homomorphically encrypted entities at any time of lattice's life they can act as "neurons" with hidden processing. This gives just an ocean of possibilities  :)

base idea but something significant , great.

  
Funds for further research and development for this year 2017 are already secured.

This is obvious that some technical details I am reluctant to disclose, as it would require me to file patent applications (which worldwide is costly). Some I disclose and we (MaStudio) do it on a regular basis here on bitcointalk and on our website.

http://bitlattice.org/

Hi Hibryda

Reminded me quickly of this famous quote.

https://i.imgur.com/g116xtQ.jpg

Still watching and glad you report sufficient funding for near term stages.  I'm really wondering just where the limits of this new tech end up. At first I had the same problem with blockchain - now I have to deal with BitLattice which is like setting foot - yet again - in the "New World".

Good luck and hope to be able to support this project soon.

Cheers - usukan

As to my quote - I paste here fragments of my discussions with other devs. And this particular touches physical limitations of worldwide network. As Bitlattice is meant to be able to operate in clusters without need of having too many full nodes, it's viable to have built in AI mechanisms in it. For the same reason of physical limitations (actually speed of chemical/electrical signal via calcium channel) brains are organized in a way that parts of them can act autonomously to a certain extent. Bitlattice can mimic this by having separate clusters that contact with the rest of network only when it's needed. Thus, when clusters are small more sophisticated operations can be performed within them without need to synchronize them with the rest of network and without impacting overall efficiency.
But this is still a matter of further research and finding best ways to isolate clusters - something I work on now.

Cheers, H

Hello folks,

I am very interested in BitLattice and will be keeping up to date with its progress.  I am also interested in investing in the technology if need be. 
I sent an email to BitLattice, and look forward to hearing back. 

Thanks!

-Gadsden

Hi Gadsden,

Nice to hear that Bitlattice idea sparked your interest and that you want to learn more. Because it's so rare nowadays (wish to learn).
I always welcome constructive questions.

Hello, is this project still alive? It's been over a month since no updates...

Yes, the project is still alive and on schedule. I just see no purpose to update just for update. Which is possibly wrong, but I'm anything but marketing guy.
Will certainly update if some milestones are reached (like prototype client) and will answer questions.

May I suggest launching a testnet at least? I'm sure many won't mind if it's buggy as hell.

Always fun to play with new stuff.

Update

Work is in progress in several areas. First of all basic tx operations using different vectors of operation have been initially tested. They still need to be refined in terms of reliability. Meanwhile works on a network protocol are before test phase. BL will use custom toroid based network protocol making use of resolving tensors with machine learning algorithm. While there are similar solutions in the wild we prefer to have custom made one due to specific needs of BL. To perform live tests we build now a server rig capable of simulating controlled network environment (32 cores for VMs, VMs running multiple simple end nodes, lots of net hardware and cables :) ).

There will be testnet. Cannot however say now precisely when. If BL would be a fork of some blockchain based solution there will be little issue with providing testnet fast. However, BL isn't blockchain at all, it has similar properties, but is different at a base level. Thus, the client must be written almost from scratch. It have to take some time to bind all the features into one concise piece of code.
So, be patient, it will come.

Hibryda

is the toroid based network protocol for replicating transactions between nodes, rather than the topography of the chain (a hyper-lattice) ?

Yes, the protocol will serve replicating transactions. It's main advantage is being based on ML prediction that in turn would benefit in speed gains. It has nothing to do with lattice structure topography, however it will be adapted to serve lattice it in the first place. A side note - contrary to possible first impression, toroidal abstraction is actually 2d instead of 3d.

could the toroid based network protocol be a good infrastructure for replicating information on a network in general, like for example, as an alternative or a competitor to TCP/IP, BitTorrent, or IPFS?

Certainly not all network layers (because you mixed several network layers protocols in your question). In general there are attempts in the wild to use similar approach to replace p2p class protocols. BL protocol is designed to serve BL and give throughput benefits by leveraging machine learning prediction abilities, GPU boost when available (to be close to real time in reaction to changes of net topology) and alike. Thus, it's not meant to be general use protocol, however if it proves reliable and performant (and we design it with simplicity in mind) then with minor changes can be applied elsewhere.

    
 Cryptocoins depend on many concepts that should be understood before going deeper. Unfortunately, to understand it properly there is no shortcut. As to Bitlattice - a catch is that it's not a blockchain. There are common points, but mostly approach differs. So, base knowledge about computing issues can help a lot.

Our free guide 'knowledge matters' is already available on http://bitcoinwoman.com/#/knowledge/list (http://bitcoinwoman.com/#/knowledge/list)

 

No test network yet?

No. And because it's written from scratch, with no general scheme that could be borrowed from other sources, it takes time. Surely more than 2 months that elapsed since you last asked me about the same. While we wrote prototype skeleton clients already it's still long way to have them publishable. But we are on schedule still.
I'll notify you when testnet is ready to play and hack, I'm glad that you are looking for it.

Yes, I'm very interested in lattice or tangle type of crypto. That's why I'm heavily into IOTA, Byteball and Raiblocks. I wonder what differentiates BitLattice from the ones I mentioned since you said you're starting from scratch.

First - it's not a blockchain. Second - it has a metric structure. Most of differences I already mentioned above. Please be more specific.

I am still learning about BitLattice. From how I understand it so far, BitLattice has refined some of the ideas behind Tangle and Byteball, and done so to the point that it is almost not comparable. Just like in Tangle and Byteball, transactions are appended to previous transactions, but besides that, BitLattice also organises transactions into a fixed topology (the hyper-lattice) which in itself makes it possible to build functions on top of it. The lattice is a spatial field, which means that certain types of mathematics that apply to spatial fields can be performed on top of the lattice. The possibility for lattice-based mathematics, including lattice-based cryptography, and also wave functions throughout the lattice as a spatial field for proof-of-structure, and similar things, are what is made possible with a lattice, and so yes, BitLattice appends transactions in ways that are slightly similar to Tangle and ByteBall, but it does so in ways that make all sorts of new math possible.

Greetings Hibryda

I'm glad to see this project is still progressing - and in a nice careful way.

IMO there really is no rush to get just "something" out there on testnet.

Best work carefully and slowly through all of this so all aspects are considered as carefully as possible and the best solutions are implemented in testnet and beyond.  I can see this is absolutely groundbreaking work with little to compare or copy from.  I really can appreciate the complexities and I don't envy your job (albeit I can see the excitement of bringing this to life).

I continue to watch this project carefully and wish you all the best in your endeavors.

I look forward to having a good play around in the Bitlattice platform.


Cheers - usukan

Any updates on the progress of this project?  Is there an ICO in sight?

As to updates -
https://twitter.com/Hibryda/status/896166039456591872 (https://twitter.com/Hibryda/status/896166039456591872)
https://twitter.com/Hibryda/status/896168702235869184 (https://twitter.com/Hibryda/status/896168702235869184)

As to ICO - it's possible that at the end of this year we'll run limited scale public ICO just to popularize the idea, but first we intend to publish whitepaper together with working prototype.

Ok, thanks i will look forward to the whitepaper and pre-ICO later in the year.

Same here. Following this project with great interest.

No new development? So sad. DAG chains are the future I believe.

Don't be sad, be happy, cause we're on schedule. Development is in progress. And testing. And coding.
We plan to release Bitlattice at the end of this year or early next year.
Absence of information here doesn't mean nothing is being developed, only that all focus is on development.
Be patient. We won't rush.

BitLattice is a post-blockchain system, so its not a chain. The chain structure is limited, blockchains for example have to let a single node add hundreds of transactions at a time, into a block, to prevent collisions that would occur if all nodes appended transactions simultaneously, and so proof-of-work or proof-of-stake is used to introduce a bottleneck. In BitLattice, because the lattice has not just one position for new transactions (the next element in a chain) but thousands or millions in a vast multidimensional lattice, how I've understood it is that nodes can work in parallel, and then synchronise with one another while adding new transactions in parallel, all at once, through a toroidal network where replication of transactions is very very fast.

So since BitLattice is not a chain, the probability of collisions when appending transactions are very small (whereas in a chain the probability is near 100%) and so almost insignificant.

(this is my interpretation of why BitLattice is not a chain, and what the benefits of that are, it may not be accurate)

I have spoken to one of the avid fans of Raiblocks, they say Raiblocks isn't DAG but looking at the whitepaper, it certainly looks like DAG. I'm a bit confused with why they say that.

So, no update for some time, just wanted to let you know that Hibryda has now implemented fully homomorphic encrypted entities into bitlattice.
Hibryda is still coding and developing.

Thanks for the update. Does this mean that Bitlattice will implement zero knowledge proof (or similar) transactions?

The answer is both yes and hmm - alike, as the scheme is a little weird because it requires upfront size estimation to ensure providing an answer without breaking a sequence of encryption and thus it does not fit in exact definitions.

Thanks for your answer  :)
Your concept of a post-blockchain multidimensional 'neural-like' network is beyond just intriguing. I will eagerly await more updates and details from you.

Thank you for this update. This project strikes me as original and creative, and in a revolutionary way. So much more than refining, or repurposing a blockchain as usual. Patiently looking forward to reading the whitepaper.

Any update for Bitlattice?

Sure. The development goes as expected. Most of crucial components are operational, still lots of work to do. The launch of network will take place after New Year. Not sure about the exact date. The shift is actually due to BTC market turmoil that can effectively damp any new coin appearance. Besides, some additional time will give us opportunity to add features and test all thoroughly.

Will it be a test network first? Are you going to release a whitepaper with the launch of the network as well? Thanks.

Hi all.

I have been following bitlattice since the beginning of the year. I'm really excited about this project and am looking forward to skimming over some of the documentation and for a chance to contribute to a crowdfunding round or ico.

Bitlattice is on my list of technologies or platforms that are a real progression away from bitcoin. They also include:

Radix
Iota
Raiblocks
simcoin (dead)
byteball
hashgraph

Hi lovely89,

As to docs - some kind of doc resource already exists, but as the project is under heavy dev it's far from being either consistent or reliable still. As to crowdfunding/ICO - we'll probably make small scale ICO to popularize it, but the exact date isn't yet defined. We'll inform about it coming in this thread.

Hibryda

Sorry, I overlooked your question somehow. Test network will be private. I'm going to release live network together with whitepaper. Of course, there is possibility to participate in testing phase - write to bitlattice@protonmail.com

Stumbled on this one. Any new initiatives to tackle the issues of today’s blockchains are very welcome. Looking forward to what’s in store for this project.

Is there a white paper or any technical documentation on how it works?  It sounds very interesting...

Not yet, WP will be released with a working prototype sometime during Q1 2018. We are now preparing for test net. If you want to join the test net please write to bitlattice@protonmail.com
Regarding technical documentation: "As to docs - some kind of doc resource already exists, but as the project is under heavy dev it's far from being either consistent or reliable still. "

Are you guys planning to have a ICO any time soon?

The schedule looks like this: Next phase is private test net, then wp together with a working prototype, then perhaps ICO ("As to ICO - it's possible that at the end of this year we'll run limited scale public ICO just to popularize the idea, but first we intend to publish whitepaper together with working prototype."). Thus there will NOT be an ICO this year. If ICO, we will announce it here on bitcointalk and on twitter, perhaps also on LinkedIn, add Hibryda on LinkedIn and you will be accepted.
If you are interested in joining our test net please write to bitlattice@protonmail.com

But when you say 5 dimensions, you can't mean 5-dimensional space right?

Could you guys put a video describing the system. The project seems interesting, but too many buzz words that distracts average user from the main intention of the project.

Cheers

-bitblaster

Hi bitblaster,
we know that we don't publish much details here on the forum, it's for several reasons. First, it's still being developed, second we don't want to give away to much info before the wp is being published, third we are not good at marketing. Now we need to focus on test net, then some more tests and so on, then release of wp + working prototype, then perhaps ICO, and marketing. And during the marketing phase, one way would of course be promotional video(s). At this stage, posting here on bitcoinforum and our webpage, bitlattice.org, are not intended for average users, we will need to adjust it later on for that. Thank you for your patience.
If you want to participate in our test net, please write to bitlattice@protonmail.com

Following you on twitter and sent you an email bitlattice@protonmail.com.

very interested in this project.

Dear Community,

Before we go to public we want to hire a public relation(marketing) person who will gain a thorough understanding of advanced concepts of bitlattice
and design a campaign to reach the targeted audience (communicate with the media and general public).

That could be you. Before you write to bitlattice@protonmail.com you might want to double check our requirements.

We value:
- passion and imagination,
- knowledge in different areas,
- critical thinking,
- persuasive communication,
- the ability to understand the public,
- technical and organizational skills,
- experience in marketing in the cryptocurrency/blockchain field.

We are looking for someone who can investigate, learn and pay attention to detail, who is creative and professional, organized and autonomous.

Searching for such universal person might seem like hoping for a miracle.
Actually if we are going to succeed we are going to need hundreds of such miracles:)

Spread the word!

Bitlattice Team

WELCOME 2018.
HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS!
#Bitlattice #GameChanger #Invention #AI #Cryptocurrency #Security #Scalability #Timing #HomomorphicEncryption #Flexibility #NoBlockchain
#AskHibryda

Hi.  Your project sounds interesting.  How does it compare to RaiBlocks?  Are you able to overcome the security issues and lack of decentralization found there?

Bitlattice is not comparable to RaiBlocks or any other block chain solution. As to the structure of Bitlattice, it will not be based on block chain at all, rather on its own platform, the Bitlattice. It will be a lattice structure of nodes with a metric distance between each node. The use of metrics enable shortest vector problem. In the Bitlattice there will be fully encrypted entities that will decide over the state of the bitlattice nodes.

With all due respect, this does not sound like something the average investor will understand. Do you have an ELI5?

Thanks.  How does one obtain bitlattice coins in order to support the project?

Sorry, no ELI5 at this time. We are setting up test net now. Everything has not been fully developed and tested yet. If you want to join the test net please write to bitlattice@protonmail.com. We plan to release WP + working prototype after test net. Then we'll probably need help from the community to simplify the technical data for ELI5, if you want to help us send an email to bitlattice@protonmail.com. Also we are reluctant to give away to much info before everything has been properly tested and WP has been released.

Hi, there are more ways to support the Bitlattice project than to obtain coins. Perhaps you have something you could do for us, if you do please write to us, we are interested in people if you can contribute somehow. You have the email above.
As to ICO - it's possible that we'll run limited scale public ICO just to popularize the idea, but first we intend to publish whitepaper together with working prototype.
Keep following us here on bitcointalk and twitter for general info/update.

Is this strictly a currency? Are you guys planning Smart Contracts on your chain?

No, Bitlattice will not be strictly a currency.
Yes, Bitlattice will have smart contracts as well but with evolved functionality, more info about that in the WP, and Bitlattice is not a chain as in block chain.

I'm not a programmer, but I have a legendary account and can help support you on this forum.

Hi xibeijan, you don't need to be a programmer to help us. Please continue to support us on this forum, tell your friends about this project. If you want to participate in the test net please write to bitlattice@protonmail.com, and no you don't have to be a programmer to participate in the test net. Thank you for your support!

Alright, I will send email.  Your project looks interesting.  What txs / block will it do and what will be "block" time?  What concensus algorithm will use?

According to your post history, you support every project in existence, and thus cannot read even the basics about them, eh?

From my history is quite clear that I do not support every project.  I try only to support a project that is decentralized and trustless (have to draw line somewhere).  It also should have something new or at least newish about it.  Sometimes I do support a clone if the development team looks smart and fast... you never really know what a project can turn into.  If the dev team drops clues of being smart and efficient, then that is a good sign there could be more in store.

I thought my question was fairly reasonable, but let me rephrase.  The lattice, what type of confirmation time is possible?  I guess it doesn't have blocks, so there will be something else?  How does your lattice achieve consensus?  I don't think these questions are covered, least in much detail yet.

Happy new year.

Many of us "old bitcointalk timers" appreciate your enthusiasm and support for projects in this ground-breaking field. At these early days, we are all part of making history whether we actively develop or just participate in discussions such as this.

As to confirmation time possible, we expect low-latency/very fast tx time but since we haven't tested yet we don't want to speculate, we will see soon in test net. The exact details will be released when publishing the wp.

Confirmation times depend on a distance inside lattice. Thus aren't one number we could just paste here. Besides, as mentioned before - it requires some more in-house and live tests to determine real ranges.
As to structure - it consists of spatially distributed nodes playing different roles. Some act similarily to blocks - they store data (txs, logic, just data). Others are a skeleton of lattice providing means to retain state.
As to consensus - it's detached from external actors and managed via authorities (small programs) "living" in lattice. They must be processed ofc, but processing yields no vector to manipulate them. More will come with WP.
BR,
Hibryda

Hi Hibryda,

The project seems interesting & looking forward to WP & a peer review of said WP.

From my blockchain research & the potential it has to disrupt society, I note the following should be featured:

1. Complete decentralization, not partial, but complete & full decentralization
2. Fair & open governance model for the benefit of the whole community
3. Privacy functionality with untraceable transactions
4. Smart contracts & dApp platform
5. High ability to scale - scalability without impacting on complete decentralization
6. Fair & widespread token distribution
7. Programming language that majority of developers can code to - e.g. JavaScript like LISK


Would all these items be addressed with the lattice structure?

I am also interested in being an early contributor to any unique/innovative technology!!

Thanks
Bozz

Which programming language do you use to build the project?

Hi bozzyboo and sotisoti,

It depends what decentralization means. The main idea behind BL is to strip human actors of any impact on network. Thus it is both decentralized (there is no humans led center) and totally centralized (decision process is meant to be performed by network, humans supply computing power only).

Sure. Whatever it means.

Both scenarios can be applied - untraceable and traceable txs. From structural point of view applying them both adds little complexity. And this is my stance. Let users decide. Besides, even with traceable one can easily use mixing solutions.

Yes. With pluggable VMs (I dislike Turing complete ones and would love to see some limited ones).

High. This was one of key factors that prompted me to start developing it.

Sure. While there will be no mining in classic sense (PoW), coins will be minted in return for sharing computation power and storage.

Of what? API interface can have some JS port (if someone writes it). But the reference client won't be in JS. For multiple reasons.

The prototype is being written in Python (and some C for fast CUDA kernels that aren't actually crucial). It's just easier, transparent to read and interpreter takes care about boring stuff. It's for purpose. The target client is meant to be written in a language with low level access to memory (and some other spices). So, C for instance (it's not yet decided, I'd prefer it). Thus it's easier to prepare cleanly readable code first, test it, and implement into less readable and easier to abuse language. Besides, my style keeps no standards, so it's better if it's at least readable.
The choice of language with low level access to memory is due to things that always made me feel uneasy while analyzing other coins' clients. Would prefer having means to at least obfuscate crypto operations in memory. Especially since Spectre came into light :) (just wrote a small, sketchy art about it: https://medium.com/@Hibryda/on-melting-spectre-or-how-soft-hardware-can-lead-to-coitus-interruptus-with-your-coins-6f975e8b22b9 ). Call me paranoid, but it never failed me.

If I understood properly your partly imprecise questions, then the answer is yes.

Sure, please write to bitlattice@protonmail.com . My team will lead you further.

BR,
H

We love Twitter but from now you can also follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/bitlattice/ and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/bitlattice/

I just looked how DAG works and now bitlattice!?  :o

Eagerly waiting for invest opportunity

Hi bitcoinpaul, please email us at bitlattice@protonmail.com and we'll add you to our list of people interested in investing.
The same apply to everyone else of course.

Good morning,

Just came across your thread and sent an e-mail to try and follow/get involved more closely.
Wish all the best.

Welcome to Bitlattice, we are happy you found out about this and hopefully there is something you may help us with to get more involved. It's a great community and a lot of people are offering their assistance in various ways. We have noticed that the interest in Bitlattice seems to grow rapidly. We are simultaneously preparing for test net and try to follow up every incoming request to help/invest.

For beginners:

Our "Knowledge matters" free guide it's a good starter for understanding the concept of bitlattice.
This week #knowledgematters 1 http://bitcoinwoman.com/#/knowledge/detail/1 (http://bitcoinwoman.com/#/knowledge/detail/1)
#gaininguniveralknowledge #learningnewthings

Join us!

Interesting reading. Thank God i went through and through Sun Tzu - Art of War, while in the military. No it´s "ONLY" a matter of understanding boolean logic and the binary number system:)

As for Sun Tzu i find it very interesting that  he is quoted many times in Command & Leadership theories and well as military strategy , although not as many as in Modern business. Are we at war in business?

To some extent yes, but without fighting:)

One of the principles of Sun Tzu in the Art of Business is Capture your market without destroying it

“Generally in war, the best policy is to take a state intact; to ruin it is inferior to this….For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.”  Sun Tzu

http://www.suntzustrategies.com/resources/six-principles-of-sun-tzu-the-art-of-business/ (http://www.suntzustrategies.com/resources/six-principles-of-sun-tzu-the-art-of-business/)

Read carefully all pages of this thread and you will receive answers to your questions.

Could be worth looking into Rust (https://www.rust-lang.org/), it's got a few good properties for a project like this: fast and pretty high-level to develop in, fast execution with low-level access to the system, lots and lots of built-in safety measures to avoid programming mistakes.

Possible drawback is that the devs do not (yet) know Rust, but it is a really good fit for this kind of project and would be well worth 10 minutes to check up on?

Anywho, good luck with this project!

Sure, Rust is one of possible candidates for some alt clients. The same applies to other contenders to a title of modern programming language around.
But there are reasons to be conservative in approach. It's useless to initiate flame war here, so I suppose it's better to say that hipsters' toys become really useful when said hipsters see their first machines in museums and grow beer bellies.
By the above I'm not saying that these languages suck - every language do, just in different areas. I appreciate Rust's features; played a little with it. And I even like it.
So, to sum it up - yep, Rust is welcome if there will be someone to write alt implementation based on the reference one.

Hi, I own a discord server for discussing DAG coins. Every DAG is listed and has its own channel.
https://discord.gg/auFsMSD.
Feel free to join us ! See ya.  ;)

A short update regarding test net; we are approaching the end of setting up the network for test net and soon we expect to begin penetration testing of our network before we will begin internal testing of Bitlattice. After that, we will launch public test net.

I'm curious about your whitepaper, please keep up inform

Interesting project, just sent an email about investing.

Glad I found this, could be ground breaking. I just sent a pm for investment info. Good luck devs.

I am also very interested in this topic. To me white paper is essential before spreading the word or investing. Please keep me informed.

-bitblaster

Interesting project. Will be folllowing closely. If this delivers on promise and is no hype, could be a game-changer :)

Following this project,  I think this is innovative project and I interest it. I hope they get great success in cyrpto ecosystem.

Wayford https://twitter.com/WayfordBL (https://twitter.com/WayfordBL)  is our Chief Marketing Officer (CMO). From now on Wayford will be in charge of Co-ordination for Bitlattice Marketing Team. He will contact everyone who has stated that want to support our project this way.
Anyone interested in assisting with the marketing please don’t hesitate to contact him directly to  bitlattice-marketing@protonmail.com

This project has been ongoing for more than a year now.  Any links to the github?

-bitblaster

Right, I've been watching this thread too for the same length of time. The sad part is after all the waiting I half expect this to be a clone of NANO, IOTA or Byteball. Prove me wrong.

Where it's a clone our not,  there should be more information by now. DAG technology implementation should not take this long.  Hiring a marketing team without a product is funny.

-bitblaster

Another DAG scam ICO? Watch out, guys! There are some people who have been serial DAG ICO scammers.

I believe this project is very different. Also this project started 1 year ago not like the other (STONE, ...)

However other projects proved after year some results, until this project shows that have something done, it's just....

Hi All quoted above,

After watching your posts exchange I feel I should also comment. Not excuse, comment - note it.

So:
@bitblaster -
DAG isn't a technology. It's a graph. Directed acyclic graph. All types of data representations that ensure timed sequence of data entries and exclude looping back are DAG. Our Universe is DAG based (cause-effect, one way entropy). Bitlattice can be represented as DAG as well. Difficulty of DAG implementation varies - it can have even less than 100 slocs (depending on language), but not sure in how many slocs our reality is implemented in.
The above are basics. Let's go deeper. Every coin around is DAG based. Simple blockchain as well (a constrained one, but still DAG). IOTA, Hashgraph and others exploit DAG scheme further allowing more parent and child nodes. But their innovation isn't in pushing limits of DAG - as it has precisely defined limits. They attempt to entangle data portions in a way that ensures correct order. And here is actual difficulty - in inventing a system that mimics cause and effect in best possible way (that no loop can occur /loop could be double spending for instance/).
So, @bitblaster, it's not easy and can take long. Depending what other guards and features you'd like to have.
As to marketing guy - FYI, he volunteered. And we are far enough to need to have him aboard.

@andreibi -
We'll prove you wrong. It was meant to be different from the beginning.

@cchub -
We stated before and I'll emphasize it now that we have funds secured. More, while we may have an ICO just to popularize the idea (I have ambigous feelings with respect to ICOs at all), the moment we'll start any funds collection will be after a functional prototype and WP gets published. Not before. I hope it's clear and I won't have to repeat it in capitals.

@Sam123 -
It's very different. Not only with respect to the scheme under the hood.

@Black_bl -
[...]it's just.... another project you can watch or not, as you neither lose nor risk anything.

As an update - we build now a network stack. This must be done with care as one of features of Bitlattice needs to be initiated in controlled manner.

BR,
H

P.S. We'll publish sources on GitLab, not Github. And we'll update here when it's published.

I admire the insight you are putting into your work. From what I have read so far, it does look like it could be refreshing, new tech. I look forward to reading your whitepaper.
Is the multi-dimensional block lattice structure going to serve currency purposes only? you gonna integrate other stuff? Are nodes going to keep it up? Will they be incentivized?

In addition, I think your website needs a big revamp.

First, to let others read the thread comfortably, cut quotations.

As to your questions - as every such system, be it blockchain, tangle, etc., it may and will be used for every purpose ordered data storage can be used. Simply because coins on the market are just immutable, time-ordered databases. The same applies to Bitlattice. It will enable use as coin, but also all else that above mentioned can be used. It will handle contracts as well. Plus some interesting extra features.
The prototype will mainly serve as a coin, but also as a proof of concept and reference implementation.
Yes nodes will be incentivized, proportionally to their participation in network.

As to website. It's not the most important thing right now and also requires some care. So, yes, but it can wait.

BR,
H

Is this going to have privacy integrated?

It depends what you mean by such broad statement. It may have tx source scrubbing for instance.

BR,
H

I want to know which programming language you use for a project?

It's mentioned above, please read.

Looking forward to participation in the testnet. Corresponded with the guys privately, by email.

Hi developers:
Do you guys have any roadmap for this project?

It's very important to set milestones and targets to meet.  Otherwise this can last forever.

Roadmaps work well when you copy/paste and assemble existing technologies. With experiments, like Bitlattice, it's harder.
We have small team and do not plan to extend it fast. We never organized ICO exactly to have peace of mind and time margin to do things properly.
I already mentioned what we do right now. We work on a setup that ensures proper initialization of network. It's something that could be skipped, but is required in our opinion.
From there we'll go with internal tests, then external, then launch. Sounds like a roadmap (and actually is), but due to experimental nature of Bitlattice prediction of precise timing isn't possible (but surely it's nowhere close to forever).

I am personally very pleased that you are taking this approach. The ICO scene has devolved into greedy meme pools and it is increasingly harder to find a project with a functional prototype. A lean ICO with great token metrics will be more beneficial to the image and success of this project. This is just my opinion of course.

@Black_bl -
[...]it's just.... another project you can watch or not, as you neither lose nor risk anything.

As an update - we build now a network stack. This must be done with care as one of features of Bitlattice needs to be initiated in controlled manner.

BR,
H

P.S. We'll publish sources on GitLab, not Github. And we'll update here when it's published.
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Hi, thanks for your answers. I hope, you prove your skills in the future. I meant in my post especially Byteball and Aidos Kuneen. They didn't have large team as well as you, but they proved a lot till these days. I wish you nice work!

All depends on project itself, resources at hand and internal strategy. Projects differ and their goals/complexity/features. I prefer delivering all I envisioned, when ready. Just to avoid mess and delays due to need to answer never ending questions (our team is already flooded with them).
Thanks for good wishes.

BR,
H

P.S. Please cut quotations. Just few seconds more and the thread looks better and is readable.

Hibryda,
Any updates on bitlattice?

If you look up into recent posts you'll spot an update.

I just came here to say hello to the team and to say I keep watching the updates on twitter.

Bitcointalk has now a toxic enviroment with so many stupid projects that can obscure decent projects like this one.

Anyway, keep the good job!  ;)

Looking foward to be part of the test team. I've sent my email few months ago.
 

 I agree with this. No rush though. I would rather be involved in testnet discussions before discussions of an upcoming ICO. I'm a strong believer in continuing innovations especially with protocols.

what's different between bitlattice and IOTA?

It's already answered in post #74. Look in older entries first, before asking questions.

we hope to hear about this project soon...

Several people, including Hibryda, have mentioned the importance of protocols.  I agree, as do some leading economists.

Where is bitlattice on external protocols?

From our conversations outside this forum I know that you meant protocols precisely describing transactions. As you reasonably noted, they are external. Thus can differ from implementation to implementation or even be plugable. Everything that is related to data stored in this database (Bitlattice is a database, and blockchain solutions are as well) can be subject to some standardization. And should be standardized, but it's a secondary issue.
Could you elaborate here (to inform also readers of this thread) what exactly would you like to achieve?

Glad to see this thread still active, keep us updated on the developments of the project!  :)

Interesting project! Wish you all the luck and looking forward to contribute. I can think of two ways: 1. Investing 2. Testing

Just sent an email about investing and testing. I am not developer but I have read the thread and it seems not necessary so I also e-mailed about that possibility. Looking forward to your e-mail reply.

Hi! We have learned about this project from friends that are knowleable about it. We feel that it is showing a lot of interesting possibilities, thus we wouldl ove to have a chance to learn more about it. Last but not least, also arrange an interview (could also be a written one), as we are the crypto dedicated media house.

Regards,

Alex from the team www.2100news.com (http://www.2100news.com)

Hi Alex, welcome to Bitlattice!
You seem to have nice friends.
I have informed our CMO Wayford about your interest in Bitlattice, he will guide you further.
You can also reach him on Twitter https://twitter.com/WayfordBL and on email bitlattice-marketing@protonmail.com
By the way, do you have a specific email adress he can respond to?
kindly
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The team looks good, but the project begins and needs to be patient. Hope will be a platform that can be taken seriously and with high quality.

Interesting project. But how will you grow the community with Google and Facebook ban on crypto/ICO advertising?

This must be a bot farming an account....

Do you think Bitlattice is better than holochain at present?

good luck

Thank you for replying! We shall send him an email.

Regards,

Alex, for the team 2100news.com

I'll see how they work , because I know the Russian government forbids cryptocurrency there

so many bots around :o

Yes. It is. It has a different structure on which all operations are performed (casted). Holochain is actually a pretty smart multichain, but still variation of a known scheme.

Rather not a bot. In Russia they have lots of public servants often present on Western sites. Investigating who owns coins for instance :) . So, I'd bet Fionoa gets his/her salary in rubles.

Are we launched yet?  Any way I can help?

Interesting project. Will be folllowing closely. If this delivers on promise and is no hype, could be a game-changer

We are preparing for internal test net before public test net.
If you wanna help/join public test net, you can email us: bitlattice@protonmail.com

“but still variation of a known scheme.”Can it be explained simply？

While DAGs claim to solve the block problem, they still rely on redundantly sharing and processing data between every full node on the network. The increased tps may simply shift the pain towards drastically increased storage and bandwidth requirements for the poor full-wallet users . Byteball is already in double digit GBs for data storage. How can this project solve this problem and what solutions will it have in the future?

DAG solves blocks problem (even if blockchain is DAG by itself and BL as well, but I know you meant specific implementations), but has still an issue with data continuity.
BL has no need for full nodes after certain saturation threshold is reached (however there will always be some full nodes kept by foundation). And still retains continuity.
Most of answers to you question "how" are in this thread.

Multichain is a known scheme - used in variety of projects. Holochain has distributed hash table that stores hashes of child chains. Not very new approach, but nicely done. BL differs by using spatial distribution to deal with computational and storage constraints.

I'm happy to read again about this project, I'm a staunch supporter of Holochain but I'm also enthusiastic about the Bitlattice project and I hope to see them both operational one day to make a real comparison, not only in terms of performance but in terms of revolutions and changes that they will bring.

 bitlattice‘s base on the concept of IOT，from the original intention of designing there's some attractions here.

with the test net coming ,we need a big/energetic communinty.   yes ,we will have .

Why is the screen name of the investor and founder of Bitlattice being used instead of the real names and the social media links, don't you think that would make your project even more legit

Did you decided if you are going to have an ICO, airdrop or something else?

it is probably the strategy of dev and team to attract investors to be more confident about this project
hopefully his project run smoothly and successfully

Bitlattice includes some possible uses in IoT, but its origin is broader (I already explained it). Nevertheless IoT uses are important.
As to community - fully agree.

Because I'm against the flow when it comes to privacy. Out of social media accounts under my real credentials I had only a Fakebook one. Years ago. Abandoned it after a year of almost no use. If I have friends they are real. If I would want to show them a color of my shit I would lead them to my toilet (the question is why should I do that?).
Showing under true name wouldn't make anything more legit. Actually there are loads of projects in different online areas build around fake credentials with long history (they cost some grands). So, names aren't so sure nowadays.
What makes it legit is that anyone that asks me for personal meeting and wishes to go on a trip (sometimes distant) has it granted. No problem in meeting me in person, just requires some real world effort.
And the approach pictured above won't change.

Not yet. I already explained my approach to ICO. If we decide, this thread will be updated prior to such action.

We certainly can not give you wrong  ;D and we are here waiting for all future updates, good work in the meantime!  ;)

It looks like a visionary project, I like your style, if you want to stand out from the crowd avoid the bounties and the usual rewards to pump the project, it is indifferent to me whether or not there is an ICO... carry on the revolution and if the project deserves we will follow you even without bounties and various rewards. The future is already a reward.

Indeed, fuck bounties.

Yes, a project like this does not need any bounties as Holo did not need it!  ;)

Leave the bounties hunters away...  ;D ;D ;D

Yes.wow! Wow nice project.This project all new,s I am parsonali all time follow and share to my all friend I hope this coin future big.this coin fast ti last with all time follow and any airdrop and bountry I join and my all friend join.I think this coin future will be success.thanks

much wow

My stance when it comes to bounties is ambivalent. I remember times when bounties played a vital role in making blockchain more mature. On the other hand, now they are often granted for cosmetic things and treated as PR magnet.
I would opt for having small fund for bounties, but only those really touching the metal. Otherwise it will start looking like bazaar.

It is really interesting project Good luck guys!

If I can give you an advice I would opt for zero bounties as did Holo who got a good result despite the project being little known during the ICO. I would like to mention another project only because you have already talked about it in here, otherwise I would not have done it. I followed Holo for the entire ICO period and I assure you that there were no rewards for anyone, no bonus, no bounties, nothing at all and same ICO price for all. I believe that such behavior gives an extremely serious representation of the project and we have a great need of such projects lately. We can not get more than bazaars ...  ;)

I assume that if someone would come to Holo who after finding a kind of critical vulnerability they would have some funds in reserve to reward such person. While it differs from bounty program it's essentially a bounty. This is what I meant opting for an amount for bounties. Not a bounty program per se, as in such case I share your (and others) view.

Very good! Excellent clarification, this is a good view of the true function of the bounties, thanks for the explanation...  :)

everyone is expecting so. this coin or this project will be successful in the future.
because it all looks new, may this perojek succeed and run in order of planning.

After what i´ve been seeing with most ICO´s and initial projects lately, I tend to share the "anti-bounty" program opinion.
I did my share of project translations and sig adds, but all things added i tend to see it hurting the projects more than helping.

But as stated above a small stash for real help like serious bug discovery and critical project help would probably be wise to keep.

Is that all, Dear Joey Alexander, not everything which looks new will be succesful - said in kindness.

Bitlattice will rule the world.

Bitlattice Evangelist - global citizen - currently in West Coast USA trying to tell fiat and BTC folks - your days are numbered. 

 ;D ;D ;D

hi guys ,welcome to our bitlattice community world     www.bitlattice.net (http://www.bitlattice.net)

 we got groups base on different country, if you are fans of bitlattice and wanna help bitlattice then pm me , the community need strong support from you all, we will open access to build group of your country for you then you will be a moderator of the group .

each country just need 3 moderators.
'First come, first served' lol

The Bitlattice Fans Community page is a great idea and we like your initiative.
While building a community is an important part of any successful project in cryptocurrencies area, it's important to retain consistency and separation of concerns.

Thus, all people interested in supporting development of Bitlattice should be aware that the only authorized way to contact the Core Team is by mailing us at bitlattice@protonmail.com .

We wish to avoid misunderstanding and we want it to be perfectly clear that bitlattice.net is a fan site and that the statement above "if you are fans of bitlattice and wanna help bitlattice then pm me" can apply only to helping expand the community (however we assume the user "bitlattice community" will forward all important communication to us immediately).

Bitlattice Core Team

sure, bitlattice.net is only fans community but not official organization  and i creat disclaimer in website already so i should repeat it again。
i hope fans community can get support from fans and core team.

Thanks for clarification. I prefer having everything totally transparent.

What is the roadmap for your project？When is the project ICO

Re Roadmap: #217 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1793648.msg31533085#msg31533085
Re ICO: #260 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1793648.msg39391722#msg39391722

👍 I thought you wanted to be left alone, and focus on internal testing. My suggestion, just ignore any comments, and keep doing what you are doing. You don’t have to prove anything to anybody.- said in kindness.

Your evangelist - global citizen, currently in west coast in USA.

Thanks for care, but I only do what I can and want to, so no worries. I find answering here both useful and entertaining. While my team could take this burden exclusively on their shoulders I can find some spare minutes to write here as well.

hey man long time.. glad your still on this. Have you read about qtesla PQ safe sig scheme? which one are you using? qtesla is lattice based aswell.

I use ring based one as well. Custom, but not very different. It just must take into account internal features of Bitlattice.

Side note: guys around (not only those from Darmstadt) should let poor Tesla rest in peace finally instead of giving him a post mortem job of pumping their businesses :) .

is your PQ safe? whats the signature size and verification time.compared to a p2pkh single input output tx in btc?

Waiting for test.

Yes, PQ safe. It was one of goals. As to comparisons with anything - they are meaningless (and with BTC probably most meaningless). Plus, I prefer having it live in small scale (which will happen soon) to give actual results. I could say it's very fast, but such declaration would be as empty as most around.

its a pretty big assumption... it needs to.scale atleast logirithmically. Its one of the reasons algos are discarded from.crypto because the sigs are too big or too slow to verify.. but if you see roadmaps.to optimize etc its all good safety first.

Which assumption? Please clarify your whole message, as it looks messy.
Regardless - it scales very well. But when it comes to comparisons - apples to apples. You asked for apples to elephants - it's meaningless. More, I don't give numbers just to give numbers. I don't have to.

no worries so its going live soon.. you have a whitepaper I assume?

Hey man, any re-bounty program in near future?

I mentioned it already in this thread (few times) - WP will go together with working prototype. Please ^F next time.

It's mentioned up there - ^F in full view will give an answer.

always keeping an eye on this project ... waiting for updates !!!  8) 8) 8)

Keep up the good work and PM me if there is a way I can help!

The progress of this project is very slow, and there seems to be no progress since January last year. According to this progress, the fastest waiting for 3 years

If someone ever wondered why we've chosen our deployment strategy to be independent (and thus harder and demanding) from a crowd this is why. Because we'll deliver when we'll be happy with what we have and when external circumstances will seem to be most favorable. Without a need to explain why not now, or not two days earlier.
Living in information age gives rare opportunity to meet people with extraordinary talents. Like precognition in this case. While your long term prediction is faulty when it comes to Bitlattice, I (and other readers around I believe) would love to know BTC rate in a week from now. Please share.

Please continue folks - as long as it takes to be happy before you release.

I like the approach here.

There is no rush - time is on your side....

Cheers - usukan

I have a suggestion. If you are really in it for cryptocurrency and not so much for the money (which i believe you are, thats why i am presenting this idea to you), why not airdrop bitlattice 1:1 to bitcoin? Call it Bitcoin Lattice, and if it Bitcoin Lattice will takeover Bitcoin core, people will just call it bitcoin. How we can do this is by creating a bitcoin fork, than have a decentralized exchange where one can swap it for the mainchain/lattice version.


https://youtu.be/RXTw4b8N1g8?t=58m21s


Peter Schiff made a great point at 58:21: bitcoin or any cryptocurrency for that matter will never gain adoption when it has a chance of being outcompeted by other cryptocurrency, currencies require certainty. Now this problem will be solved in a mature market, cryptocurrencies are open source, if someone designs a new currency and creates a total new supply, another can copy that code and fork it from bitcoin (or do a 1:1 airdrop if the mainchain is unforkable).  People are simply going to adopt the new currency with technology X that was fairly distributed by copying bitcoins' ledger over the new cryptocurrency with technology X that had an ICO. In current hyperspeculative market a "flippening" can still occur but it wouldn't be necessary and actually make cryptocurrency as a whole unattractive for mass adoption. Bitcoin Lattice actually has a chance of taking over bitcoin instead of Bitlattice, and will right away be traded at insanely high market caps. Let me know what you think Hybrida.

Ps I'm the guy who messaged u on linkedin I think in august 2017.

-Arsène

There are sometimes ideas that look simple and effective, but after closer look are neither simple, nor effective (no offence intended). But let me elaborate.
While I find some Peter Shiff remarks interesting, in general I consider his views as being fairly naive. But let's assume his stance is genuinely non-partisan (which is not) and his conclusion about cryptocurrencies and internal competition valid (even if based only on common sense and no actual hard data).

I could port Bitcoin to Bitlattice with no big effort. It poses however multiple issues that aren't of technical nature.

First of all, such attempts were made with other mechanisms. As you may have noticed, they never performed very well. This stems from a simple fact that the ecosystem Bitcoin is consists of a vast set of different groups of interest. Some commercially motivated, some gov led, some probably with even stranger motiations. I know this setup and hardly would like to dive in it. Because ultimately you end up as a tool.

Maybe not as important as the above, but such operation would involve months of pointless arguments and groups of interest pushing from all sides. Which I find neither productive nor beneficial for Bitlattice itself.

To sum all up - if presented with constructive and reasonable proposal by guys able to deal with all side shit I will certainly consider such fork or clone. Given however that such situation is unlikely to happen I doubt that I'll invest my time to make such fork concurrently with Bitlattice itself. Maybe later, as a side thing.

Ps I find you in September, unless it's different Arsène

Hi xibeijan, please email us at bitlattice@protonmail.com if you are interested in supporting us in any way.

welcome to our bitlattice fans community http://www.bitlattice.net/group.php (http://www.bitlattice.net/group.php) ,if you wanna be local organiser in your local area for bitlattce project ,pm me .please make sure you have energy and time to handle this.

Thank you for your effort.
We will prepare "marketing message'  in the form of infographic - Bitlattice vs Blockchain.

Bitlattice vs Blockchain  

if we have weekly progress report that will be better for community.i think.

ps: we have a QQ group for bitlattice community in china : 364343351   come and join us now

 If I asked you what the bitlattice technology is, you would most probably not answer correctly, hence our decision to make the infographic.
As to the reports - we will not delegate separate staff for making weekly, monthly and other reports as we are too busy working on several things in parallel, for instance things related to legal structure, securing IP rights and so on.

We've just applied to register a Ltd Company. Information concerning the infrastructure, technologies governed by the company, tools, solutions, software and hardware products will be available on the new website of the company, in due time.

As to marketing issues - unfortunately Wayford is too busy with his day job so we decided to find someone who can allocate more time into the marketing of Bitlattice.

Requirements are the same:

Before we go to public we want to hire a PR/marketing individual who will gain a thorough understanding of advanced concepts of Bitlattice and design a campaign to reach the targeted audience (communicate with the media and general public).

That could be you. Before you write to bitlatticewoman@protonmail.com you might want to double check our requirements.

We value:
- passion and imagination,
- knowledge in different areas,
- critical thinking,
- persuasive communication,
- the ability to understand the public,
- technical and organizational skills,
- experience in marketing in the cryptocurrency/blockchain field.

We are looking for someone who can investigate, learn and pay attention to details, who is creative and professional, organized and autonomous.

Searching for such universal person might seem like hoping for a miracle.
Actually if we are going to succeed we are going to need hundreds of such miracles:)

Spread the word!

Bitlattice Woman

https://twitter.com/BW_MaStudio (https://twitter.com/BW_MaStudio)

If you are a public speaker contact me directly to bitlatticewoman@protonmail.com preferably from end to end encrypted e-mail.

Follow us on twitter, be active there and help with spreading the word https://twitter.com/bitlattice (https://twitter.com/bitlattice)

Got this reply from SEB regarding startup of company account, this means we cannot proceed with starting the company if I don't change our activity descriptions, or bank, asked G to look into it if his connections can do something for us, perhaps some other bank is more interested in working with us?
However, I'll keep the reply from SEB for future reference to show the business community how they treated us in the beginning...
This is the reply we got from SEB (https://seb.se/), (translated from Swedish to English):

"See now when I print all your papers in the afternoon that I have to decline your application and unfortunately I will not be able to help you with business packages here in SEB.

Referring to the text below:
I'm sorry!

"SEB is still maintaining a restrictive attitude towards bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. It is indicated by new, internal guidelines developed by the risk and compliance organization together with the business divisions." We shall not be actively involved in transactions directly related to cryptocurrencies, "says Group Risk Manager. Magnus Agustsson. "

Wish you the best of luck!

Congratz on registering company. When does network go live?

What's your governance model?

Could you please specify which layer you have in mind?
As there can be governance with respect to the company that develops specific targeted solutions and is a vehicle to pay developers for their efforts, there will be a foundation taking care about core development, there is a community and many more.

We are in the process of register an Ltd company. Info concerning the infrastructure, disruptive technologies governed by the company, tools, solutions, software and hardware products will be available on the new website of the company in due time.

Check out the "Startup panel" on the EUROPEAN BLOCKCHAIN CONVENTION

@manelomanu will hold a 10 minutes presentation of Bitlattice desruptive technology.

Go there and listen if you can!

http://eblockchainconvention.com/  (http://eblockchainconvention.com/)

https://twitter.com/wtfc360/status/1065330095794110465 (https://twitter.com/wtfc360/status/1065330095794110465)

Are you planning to make a video record of your presentation? Would be awesome to see one.

Are you planning to make a video record of your presentation? Would be awesome to see one.


Yes, of course.
As soon as I get it I will post it here.

Now we have established a limited company, received the company registration number, set up a bank account.

We plan to organize the first Bitlattice meetup in Stockholm in February.
All details will be available here  https://www.meetup.com/Bitlattice/  (https://www.meetup.com/Bitlattice/)
Soon more news :)

I do not see any relation between "computational and storage constraints" and "storage of hashes of child chains".

What does "using spatial distribution to deal with computational and storage constraints" means? Could you elaborate on this?

a multi dimensional lattice is a spatial structure, computation can be distributed over space in the lattice. (I'm a fan, following the project)

What does "using spatial distribution to deal with computational and storage constraints" means? Could you elaborate on this?  I also have the same problem

You don't see as there is an important factor missing in the sentence you cite. Spatial distribution serves here as means for efficient sharding. It enables boiling down global problems to local ones. You may treat it as a distant echo of Bell's theorem in flat space.

Introduction to Bitlattice in Stockholm

Join our first Bitlattice Meetup
at Grappabar http://www.grappabar.nu (http://www.grappabar.nu) in Stockholm.

This is an informal event for our local Bitlattice Community with 15 minutes presentation of the project.

Enjoy this great opportunity to connect with your fellow Bitlattice supporters and have some fun with like-minded people.

More details here https://www.meetup.com/Bitlattice/events/257273293/ (https://www.meetup.com/Bitlattice/events/257273293/)

Before we go public we want to be well recognizable.

Our rollout plan depends on what support in cooperating people we'll be able to accumulate.
We prefer to have a narrow set of marketing people, writers, public speakers, meetup organizers, that can be relied upon,
people who are involved in crypto with passion for disruptive technologies.

If you want to contribute, contact us via bitlattice@protonmail.com

We've just established a Limited Company in Sweden. Everything develops simultaneously as it should be.
We have a small team and do not plan to extend it fast. We haven't organized ICO exactly to have peace of mind and time margin to do things properly.
Due to experimental nature of Bitlattice, prediction of precise timing isn't possible (but surely it's nowhere close to forever).

Fb https://www.facebook.com/events/2170472276307123/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/2170472276307123/)

This is an informal event with 15 minutes presentation, for our local Bitlattice community.
Every supporter or one to be is welcome to attend.

 
As to our meetups:

1. Jan/Feb in Berlin (in German language)
2. Jan/Feb in Munich (in German language)
3. Feb/Mar in Moscow (in Russian language)
4. February in Stockholm (in English)  https://www.meetup.com/Bitlattice/events/257273293/
 Details will be available here.

Follow us on twitter, we are very active there.
https://twitter.com/bitlattice (https://twitter.com/bitlattice)

  Logo                                                           

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 Logo, a long version
          
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When you see this somewhere in the city, we are near:)

The webiste says that it will be a new crypto currency but not based on the conventional protocol blockchain, will be developed then a new protocol, or a new concept of blockchain?

Forget about blockchain. Say a new protocol and a new concept.
"It will be a new coin, but no longer under the conventional blockchain protocol, instead a multi-dimensional lattice structure, known as Bitlattice.

Bitlattice is a new paradigm and fundamentally different from Bitcoin and the major alt-coin protocols. It is something very novel and experimental. Bitlattice mitigates many common issues in the classic blockchain including scalability, timing, complexity, and the inability to have independent oracles.

...My project differs substantially from traditional projects because it is not a blockchain. While it still provides the same fundamental benefits, lattice architecture is totally different thus providing additional benefits and solving several inherent blockchain issues."

Bitlattice is a truly autonomous system.
Its design is based on spatial lattice abstraction created programmatically.

If you look at the lattice structure you will notice the regular pattern.
Lattice is a set of points, regularly arranged in space, for which the environment of each point is identical.
Try to imagine that at certain predefined intervals (let's say every 8 or 16 or whatever) there are distributed FULLY HOMOMORPHICALLY ENCRYPTED ENTITIES. They govern the current state of their surroundings in the lattice and decide if a transaction may be allowed or not to another node in the lattice cluster.
These entities act like the consciousness of the Bitlattice network, they are able to use SELF SIGNING CONTRACT WITH OWN KEYS, something not possible in present blockchain solutions.

Next imagine applications where really trustless network matters.

To proceed. Blockchain was a step. If we would stop on first achievement we would still live in caves.

 Bitlattice Avatar Germany created a nice design for the flyer. Thanks.
              

                                                           http://i67.tinypic.com/2rot91h.jpg

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Sweden - Stockholm
Germany - Berlin
Russia - Moscow
Spain - Barcelona
India
UK - London
Poland - Warsaw
Portugal - Lisbon
Coming from S.Korea, US,
6 women and 4 men.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year for everybody!

Hi.

I do not like the logo. Especially the long version is very hard and challenging to look at.
It confuses me and hurts my eyes.

Actually the long version was meant to drive people insane so you lucky not falling into:) Or did you?

European Blockchain Convention | NORDIC edition

Building the foundation of Blockchain and the Digital Economy

COPENHAGEN │ May, 2019

http://eblockchainconvention.com/nordic/ (http://eblockchainconvention.com/nordic/)

We plan to be there, this time with a talk given by a Member of Bitlattice Core Team, Public Speaker and CTO of our new company.

More details will be announced soon, on https://bitlattice.org (https://bitlattice.org) website.

Can i translate this a post it in portuguese?

Yes, of course.

I've just sent you 2 presentation materials to your proton box.

Bitlattice Avatar Southeast United States is taken :)  https://twitter.com/PraediumIO

Bitlattice production presents :)

                                                                http://i68.tinypic.com/oqyqgm.jpg

I read through the forum like a month ago but can't recall if this has been discussed and if yes, if it has an answer.

Will bitlattice have something like a turing complete VM allowing smart contracts or something conceptually similar?
How will dApps be supported if at all?

Thanks

aApps will be supported by means of pluggable VMs. Both Turing complete and non-Turing complete (I somehow prefer more limited environment in case of contracts). The actual choice of VMs will depend on interest and external developers. BL will provide only an API and own VM at a later stage.

The 1st Berlin Bitlattice Meet-up will be on January 23 at 7 pm.
Venue: https://supermarkt-berlin.net/en/  (https://supermarkt-berlin.net/en/)
organized by Bitlattice Avatar Anna Blume @anna_blume_hh  #bitlattice

 As to developers:

It must be someone stunning. We don't need code assemblers. We need brilliant individuals able to crush any issue regardless of the field. We need no artisans, we need artists  ;)

 CSO of our new company https://twitter.com/BitlatticeWoman/status/1092803024903393280 (https://twitter.com/BitlatticeWoman/status/1092803024903393280)  
He will be taking care of marketing and sales.

With a first meet-up in germany @super_markt Berlin we started a series of meetups to learn and build and thrive together. https://twitter.com/anna_blume_hh/status/1088441205313159168 (https://twitter.com/anna_blume_hh/status/1088441205313159168)
#bitlattice

Bitcoin > Blockchain >>> Bitlattice #2nd meet-up https://www.meetup.com/de-DE/meetup-group-OAZydxJm/events/258534569/ … #Meetup #Berlin via @MeetupDE

Munich #Bitlattice Meetup will take place at February 28th. For more details follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/bitlattice (https://twitter.com/bitlattice)

Imorgon (11 feb) har vi, Bitlattice, vår först svenska "Meetup" i Stockholm  (Vasastan) på Grappa matsal och bar kl 17:30. Jag kommer att vara där  tillsammans med delar av teamet.
https://www.meetup.com/Bitlattice/events/257273293/ (https://www.meetup.com/Bitlattice/events/257273293/)
Alla är välkomna!
#bitlattice  #noblockchain #disruptivetechnology

Hej researchers, coders, designers in Stockholm!
There is a chance to meet up with other awesome people in town.
Come hang out with us!

Great first meetup i Stockholm!
 
https://twitter.com/bitlattice/status/1095064752802484230 (https://twitter.com/bitlattice/status/1095064752802484230)


For the news follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/bitlattice (https://twitter.com/bitlattice)

  
  Join the first Munich Meetup 'New moves in distributed ledger technologies'
  Thursday, February 28, 2019
  https://www.meetup.com/meetup-group-OAZydxJm/events/259155550/ (https://www.meetup.com/meetup-group-OAZydxJm/events/259155550/)

  As to fully homomorphic encryption - it’s something very novel and experimental.
  Non technical explanation you will find on Crypto Catch Up https://twitter.com/bitlattice/status/1093829930599792640 (https://twitter.com/bitlattice/status/1093829930599792640)

  Enjoy!

Things related to our company legal matters are finally coming to an end.
It's been a long run.
Soon we will go live with V.1 of our company website.

Yes, indeed. It's been a long time. All outsiders can do is watch this thread for any updates. I think this 2019 is the best time to your version of a DAG network to see if it can compete with Obyte, IOTA, and Nano.

If you expect competition, you can be surprised. It will not be possible for very simple reason, Bitlattice is not comparable to those projects. They follow the right path, but still missing several crucial points. That's why we keep important details undisclosed.

As to the timing. If it would depend on technical issues only Bitlattice would be up and running since a year already. But then it would mix in and vanish among a wealth of other projects on the scene.
So, we decided to have a considerable backing first. This will provide us with means to extend the scope of BL. But the details we'll be able to provide no sooner than in May. The same applies to any reliable predictions of timing.

How is this project different from radix dlt?Radix dlt is a speedy alternative to blockchains and DAGs. Bitlattice also is a alternative to blockchains and DAG

Do your homework, read 18 pages of this thread and make comparison, this is exact amount of information we want to disclose at the moment.

  The debate on TRUST with Hibryda continues, it's really cool!

  Join it!

  https://forum.holochain.org/t/debate-on-trust-with-hybrida-from-bitlattice/417/26 (https://forum.holochain.org/t/debate-on-trust-with-hybrida-from-bitlattice/417/26)

    
    During the debate on trust Hibryda suggested to prepare a conceptual model of trust system minimally reliable.

    More on our blog https://bitlattice.org (https://bitlattice.org)

   #ReputationSystem #trust

 
  Hibryda just published "Sustainability and trust" on Medium https://medium.com/@Hibryda/sustainability-and-trust-7e340e151600 (https://medium.com/@Hibryda/sustainability-and-trust-7e340e151600)

   The "FAQ" page on https://bitlattice.org (https://bitlattice.org) has been updated.
   
   Enjoy!

Release code will be 100x convincing than your non-sense describe.

Followed you guys a much long time,confirmed you guys just have no tech ability to complete the idea.

Be careful with such project.

 
   
    I find your lack of faith disturbing.

    As to bitlattice - I absolutely agree with you, it beats others on innovation!

   

bitlattice have nothing with innovation.In fact,there were many lattice designed projects,Nano,TERA...

just fork it,if you like.

I guess you guys also did not have the basic coding skill to fork them.

   
   https://medium.com/@Hibryda/open-source-and-ip-3a8cb7460b4a (https://medium.com/@Hibryda/open-source-and-ip-3a8cb7460b4a)

 
  Take a look at a newly released document on https://bitlattice.org (https://bitlattice.org)


  The paper presents the possibilities of Bitlattice, its superiority of concept and the innovative way distributed data storage and processing is organized and performs.
  And believe me, it's worth to dig deeper.

   
  Read Hibryda's article "Interface problem" in Appendix of the document, pages 35-37.

  It covers one of the most paramount problems of computation - Interface Problem
 
  PDF document available on https://bitlattice.org (https://bitlattice.org)

 "The good, the bad and the ugly — sustainability, trust and coronavirus" by Hibryda

https://medium.com/@Hibryda/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-sustainability-trust-and-coronavirus-6f5bfbe8c59a (https://medium.com/@Hibryda/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-sustainability-trust-and-coronavirus-6f5bfbe8c59a)

We (Jonathan Merril and I) just published a paper proposing treatments for COVID19 based on RNA silencing and vaccines based on phage-display technology by epitopeRX.

The paper can be downloaded here - https://lnkd.in/g7GRjpz. (https://lnkd.in/g7GRjpz.)

My thread on Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6646004968501444608/ (https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6646004968501444608/)

We'll happily answer all questions.

#covid19 #sarscov2 #rna #research #scienceandtechnology #antibodies #covid_19 #coronavirus

Don't quite understand so you're saying you can use software to cure covid?