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So this is an absolute mess now...

Inputs.io has been "hacked"....

4100 Bitcoins have been "lost" due to said "hack"

Here's where things don't add up (I will updating the OP with a ton of misinformation , lies and deception on the part of TradeFortress)

TradeFortress has stated Inputs.io did not have to worry about being hacked (at least having the wallet hacked) because the majority of the funds were in Cold Storage...

Now the site gets "hacked" and 4100 Bitcoins (Current MTGoX Price of $1,266,900 USD) is lost!  :o

TradeFortress refuses to refund anyone with balances lower then 1 Bitcoin and also refuses to actually state the routing of the hack (No TXiDs , No Real IP Logs , Nothing of any real factual information ie Made Up)

Please feel free to post how much you lost from the Inputs.io hack as well any relevant information about any dealings you had with TradeFortress

I highly recommend each of you regardless of what country you are in contact your District Attorney about pursuing legal action (If the amount was quite large)

A partial refund IS NOT a refund and you have all the right to a full refund

To everyone who has lost through this extremely brutal sprung of the moment "hack" I feel very sorry for you and this is another reason to never store any Cryptocurrency in a wallet you do not have direct access to

*UPDATE* When cornered about the topic of affiliation with TradeFortress and Inputs.io Kluge laughed and said "lol ya the $100 was great..". I then gave him a -1 Trust Rating to which he gave me me a -5 Trust Rating (Donators can give more trust/distrust) simply stating "Lost Money".

*MAJOR UPDATE* I fully expect to be banned for this but I feel wrong not disclosing this information. theymos on behalf of Bitcoin Talk openly promoted Inputs.io through banner ads and Donations even after being warned by the community several times that Inputs.io was highly unsecure to top it off he also gave him Default Trust allowing TradeFortress to have a Green Positive Rating regardless of any negative ratings issued. To top it off other Moderators and Staff are to blame as they have a direct link to Banner Ads and revenue affiliated with Bitcoin Talk but because they had no choice whether or not theymos chose to have affiliation with TradeFortress I am not listing them as outright Scammers. Kluge on the other hand has yet to remove his Inputs.io signature and is still openly promoting TradeFortress and Inputs.io. A significant amount of other Donators and Shills are posting nothing but compliments for TradeFortress and refuse to stop promoting the site which leads me to believe they are taking a sigificant cut of this "hack" (The one TradeFortress staged)

Shit ain't acceptable man thankyou for the quotes :)

I think this claim is honestly outrageous as it's pretty obvious the site was in fact hacked as I lost my coins several weeks prior to the "mass hacking". After a third party security audit, he assured me there must have been a flaw in Inputs.io security.

Wait, so there were coins lost weeks ago, which he knew and admitted there were flaws, before this hacking, he still left over a million dollars on the server and happened to get 'hacked' again? Interesting.

that'd mean he knowingly risked his customers money... unbelievable

I'm sorry but I highly doubt TradeFortress was incompetent enough to leave 4100 Bitcoins in the Hot Wallet , never fix the flaws that have been around since Inputs.io initial existence or actually trust Linode for a server provider after the countless amounts of hacks directly linked to Linode.

Also...

After the previous 5 scams where the majority has been either an Inside Job , a Ponzi Scam or just an outright Scam.  It's safe to assume that TradeFortress is indeed corrupt and staged this entire thing.

This is the same guy who has a track record of exploiting Ripple Faucets , Exploiting people who use Ripple and generally doing the most Con Artist things just because he claims the system is "flawed"

Well guess what!?!

Inputs.io is flawed and only paying back over 1 Bitcoin debts does not cut it and it shouldn't cut it for anyone....

If the site was flawed from the start he should have secured it...

Because he didn't and is not willing to repay for his flawed security , He is indeed the definition of a Scammer.

well that makes me feel so much better. so it turns out he's a fucking shit programmer, he keeps everything in the hot wallet, gets it "compromised" and i'm supposed to feel better because inputs.io was compromised weeks prior and he allowed us all to keep depositing? what the hell kind of crack are you smoking?

outrageous? is that a joke? this wreaks of a con job.

keep rubbing on TF's nuts because you get refunded much more than the vast majority. we'll see how much is left for the little guys.

<!DOCTYPE scam>
<scam>
<head>
<script type="text/javascript">
function hack({
document.getElementById('coinchat').innerHTML="<b>0</b>";
document.getElementById('inputs.io').innerHTML="<b>0</b>";
});
</script>
</head>
<body>
        <div id="coinlenders">
                <a href="javascript:void(0)" onclick="hack();">3,000 BTC</a>
        </div>
        <div id="inputs.io">
                <a href="javascript:void(0)" onclick="hack();">4,000 BTC</a>
        </div>
</body>
</scam>

OMG Adding that to quotes holy shit dude ROFLMAO  :D

Only way I can deal with suffering is to just laugh  :'(

i forgot to add  

<a href="javascript:void(0)" onclick="hack();">

<script type="text/javascript">
function hack({
document.getElementById('coinchat').innerHTML="<b>0</b>";
document.getElementById('inputs.io').innerHTML="<b>0</b>";
});
</script>

inputs.io was not hacked previously to the 4K btc hack.


Show this.

Show all IP Logs , Transaction IDs , Admin Logs , Every Log Possible or Give back all the Bitcoins you stole thief  >:(

Those 4100 went on Gox and were sold at roughly 13:00 +10 GMT time.  By 14:30, that wall was gone.

Coincidence?

you should post proof of this( if you can find it.) might be kind of hard to get, but perhaps petitioning Gox for the info might help.

if I had the chance to run away with 1.1 million dollars and say the site was hacked I would do the same thing it's the perfect excuse... go after this guy do not let him get away!

Was it over 1 Bitcoin and were you paid in full?

Got 0.04 out of 0.05 Coins out...

But the major problem are still my 4 coins in coinlenders :<

I had about 2.14 BTC in my inputs.io account, am waiting to see if he actually refunds me

My 0.1>balance paid, thank you TF.

I have had about 63% repaid. I have a couple other wallets (relatively small amounts) that have not been repaid. Waiting to hear back. If I can get something for those, I'll have done better than I would have expected with this fiasco....

If they're > 0.01 BTC, resend the email please.

Been paid 1.61 out of 2.14, better than nothing but I still want that 0.53.

I moved to this section from the Donator section a topic which I created to scrutinize Tradefortress activities:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211169.0

Please, read all carefully. You will find out that Tradefortress is involved in fraudulent activities since his inception in this forum. The tragic part is that Theymos, the administrator of this forum, gave special treatment to him, even after I produced the evidence which shows Tradefortress has been involved in the creation of sock puppets to dupe the forum participants.

I have 0.24 BTC in my inputs.io account for two month payments. The next payment was due day after tomorrow. I will be relieved if I can at least get that existing 0.24 BTC.

The balance still shows in my account. Do I mail you for withdrawl?

EDIT: Mailed.

Please explain the sliding scale. I only received 8.59 out of 20.795 from inputs.io (41%). $3700 loss.
Also what is the plan for Coinlender balances? Please be specific.

I have 2.4 BTC in my inputs.io account.
    ??? ???    My 2.4btcs all gone.

This is the last time I'm responding to you with the same thing. Follow the instructions on the site - you could've done it five times instead of continuously making trollish responses here.

You lost his money to incompetence, or just stole it yourself, and you turn around and call him a troll? Classy.

I didn't do that, my account must have been hacked  ::).

show us proof that TradeFortress gave you 100% full-refunds.

I have proof the that TradeFortress will not give me 100% full-refunds.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326881.msg3508457#msg3508457

*Sigh* So are you telling people not to get refunds at all because they're not full refunds? GENIUS

what's wrong to ask for full refunds? I lost my money to his incompetence.

Well, then go ask for a full refund ::)

TradeFortress stay because his Post count is 6751.

Summary - TradeFortress
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=67058

Excuse my rudeness, but what the fuck does post count have ANYTHING to do with this? :-\

TradeFortress said no full refund.

You don't say. I actually read the threads unlike some people?

Received 0.19 BTC.

Thanks

pls go look @ TradeFortress trust rating

ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=67058

show us proof that you Received 0.19 BTC.

AND WHAT THE FUCK DOES TRUST RATING HAVE TO DO WITH POST COUNT OR THIS ISSUE AT ALL? (Sorry for caps :P Just trying to emphasize my point through somebody's thick skull)

And btw, I didn't have anything in inputs or CoinLenders at the time this occured, but I had a bit in CoinChat and TradeFortress sent it to me.
TXID was 1fe7d03736e04ba760228680bd37679e5e37a49e3c1549d18c7464fa31980b8b, if you want :)

https://blockchain.info/address/1EKc42nPdAZhWu7XKswHB4qSzwLM2CvAtw

Anybody feeling pity can pay me the loss at the same address :)

the site owner created an Activity + trust rating + post count for a reason you know.

And what does that reason have anything to do with this issue and the refunds?

simple because TradeFortress does not want his account ban for scamming.

DO YOU THINK THAT AN ACCOUNT IS WORTH MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS? EVEN IF IT HAS LOTS OF POSTS AND TRUST?

GOOD POINT YOU WIN , CHEERS  ;D ;D ;D

Not sure if trololol, or...

https://blockchain.info/address/15kFtLh4WPBXKuTGAcK6Ae33Te1dpJ7Ccu  

Anyone want to guess who this belongs to? Trade Fortress..

I am wondering how TF is verifying ownership and who lost their bitcoins and who didn't.
If he's doing it via users email address, It's stupidity, as anyone can send a fake mail from any account easily.


Inb4peoplestartsendingfakemails.

I'm not sure if he wants to be published as a source but believe me when I say he is A+ as it gets.

Email, deposit address and account balance, probably.

*Hackers* also know these things.. right?

Conjecture:

I don't think TradeFortress is refunding anybody since nobody had 1 BTC on inputs.io in the first place.

on top of that, inputs refunds are send out with 0 (ZERO) Fees... good luck receiving those

Source?

This situation just gets more and more lulzy.

Ouch.  Glad I never trusted an online wallet to begin with!  :(

https://blockchain.info/tx/45e2a542ae944ce71192b31734afd5deb45d6fc153eb009359fe7162745b567d

none of the payments were sent with fees. hopefully they will come through. some people saying 40 hours estimated conf time? those tx might be lost.

Well just stop. If a site like btc-e would lose all of your bitcoin due to an hack, you would accuse the owner of running a scam.
Yes it is possible, but not likely.
Where are the people who know TF in real life?

This could be the stupidest post ever.  I don't think trust rating really matters at this point, but sadly that is probably why so many people blindly trusted putting their money into someone else's wallet.

If John K (arguably the most trusted person on this board) suddenly had an escrow get "hacked" that was worth $1,000,000.00 USD no one should give a shit about his trust for previous escrows.  They should care about the evidence that he provides that proves he was, in fact, hacked, and listen to the explanations laid out regarding that specific incidence.

To put it another way, if a man slept with 499 women consensually, but the 500th claimed he raped her, would you discredit the rape as saying, “well he didn’t rape the other women!” ???

Has any one heard for TradeFortress  ???

I can't imagine he is getting much sleep right now.

He is either celebrating with all of the money he made off the heist, or he is feverishly working to try and figure out what the hell happened and how he can repay all of his customers.

You be the decide.

Everything sounds a bit fishy, but I have to admit that I don't know any details, so I can't really make founded accusations here.  I only have/had 2 mBTC in there so it doesn't really hurt if the coins are gone (never keep too much in an online wallet, now proven again to be important), but I've nevertheless asked for a refund.  Let's see.

Well, yes, but they can't use your email to answer emails...

TradeFortess was warned that it is not OK to use Linode hosting back in July: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=251553.0

Migrating to a physical server could be trivial, but instead he decided to stay with Linode and ignored all warnings.

I think it's quite obvious that it was staged. Linode was chosen as a scapegoat, as previously Bitcoinica was hacked in the same way: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/3629/what-is-the-story-behind-the-linode-problem

So this looks plausible.

If it isn't a scam, it is a criminal negligence.

Yeah this whole thing looks fishy atleast, especially as the whole platform was marketed as high security wallet, in the end it doesnt seemed to be more secure then using a default wordpress and putting some bitcoind in background.

Especially the aggressive advertising of several channels is to blame here.
Ontop of that the refunding process has lots of contradictions, too. First he talks abouts full refund, then members of the forum report of partly refunds ... reminds of the bitcoin-24 process after all.

And who the fuck is "we" if he talks about "we" ... who are the other forum members that are part of this?

TradeFortress,

Can I get a refund for the XRP that you stole from the Ripple Faucet (http://www.ripplegiveaway.com) before I banned you?

I expect a full 100% reimbursement.  The Ripple Faucet's address is r2hrqyjdLCBSkB6ADLpWkWtYFK96w1xMn.  You didn't just steal from me, but you also stole from all the other people who donated to the Ripple Faucet (http://www.ripplegiveaway.com/faucetsponsors.html).

Graham

Full reimbursement after an $1+ mil USD loss?
You're a smart guy.

He stole from the Ripple Faucet (http://www.ripplegiveaway.com) first, so I get first dibs on any type of compensation.

I am a smart guy.  Smarter than you that's for sure.  You're defending a known thief.

So my intellect is lower due to me defending someone (who might and might not be a thief)?
Okay, having this discussion with such a low being creature is not worth mine or anyones time here.

Hopefully you don't get any reimbursement.  :)

i can't believe people post shit like this. we are a community. we all lost here. TF was either extremely sloppy/unsafe/negligent (criminally, really), or he is a thief. there is nothing to be gained by insulting the victims. there is no question that whatever happened, it is purely TF's fault -- he is the cause of 100% of our grief.

so please, i hope we can avoid insulting victims for the sake of blindly defending TF. i wish everyone gets as much as possible back and i hope we can push TF out of our community forever.

perhaps you can tell us about TF's personal bitcoin holdings? i'd like to know just how much he is sitting on, that's for sure.

How do we know that TheNewAnon1324 isn't TradeFortress himself?  He's been accused of sockpuppetry int he past. 

On that note, how do we know that YOU aren't TradeFortress himself?

Why would I do that?
Who ever said that the community deserved to get reimbursement? It's every mans fault for keeping money in something that WE all KNEW wasn't nowhere near safe as an wallet on your own computer or an offline one.
That's like putting your money in a bank which uses vaults made out of glass, rather than a bank which uses titanium ones? Huh?
Hopefully this will be a lesson to all of you.

Why not.

deserve reimbursement? nothing about that. TF was either unbelievably negligent or stole the BTC himself and surely deserves everything bad that is coming to him.

i am well aware online wallets aren't safe. i use them for small amounts to avoid breaking cold wallets. that doesn't make it right to turn this into a victim-blaming game. enough with the "let this be a lesson". this won't be a lesson anymore than instawallet was, so stop it with the broken record already. some will learn, some won't, and some were already aware, but we don't need you acting all smug about it.

TF fucked everyone here. it's important to remember that. and here you are ITT "hoping" that people don't get reimbursement -- your words -- like a nasty little troll. get off your high horse.

how do you know it was him abusing the faucet? gotta say, this sounds super pathetic and scummy on the part of TF... but them again...that's become the norm.

The sleuthing has begun...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327178.msg3510722#msg3510722

What?!  Are you a complete moron or are you just illiterate?  "Might not be a thief"?

TradeFortress stole from the community Ripple Faucet (http://www.ripplegiveaway.com).  That MAKES HIM A THIEF.

I can almost guarantee you he intentionally stole the money from the people who used Inputs.io.  Someone who steals from a COMMUNITY FAUCET (http://www.ripplegiveaway.com) won't think twice before they steal over a million dollars.

Because he's such a genius, he was using the same ripple accounts that he used to distribute his fake BTC ious.

I've updated the OP with a significant amount of misleading , untruthful , damning evidence against TradeFortress  :(

I've chosen what I think leads to the most accurate depiction of a Scammer possible  :'(

Thank you to everyone for posting all of this it makes it much easier to catalog this whole debacle  :(

Another entry for the bozo bin.

the stolen coins went to an address carrying already 1000 coins

https://blockchain.info/address/1Cdc4GYDCfKdsp8o5KNg6z7XjRaSPpDBA4 

Honestly, right now if I was in his place. If the hack had occurred, after all this shit from the community, I'd leave and never come back.
He can always do that, yet you blame a man for trying. Nice. There is no proof that this is a scam after all.

well thats all of the addresses the coin has gone to so far

http://blockchain.info/largest-recent-transactions

None of this is even remotely surprising.  It's always been obvious to me that Tradefortress was a scammer.  All his action are scammish.

Now, in order to prove an actual crime, one must prove intent.  You can steal $1 million and refund 50%-60% and remove intent, thus avoid legal prosecution.  You may also be able to maintain your reputation so you can get ready for the next scam because the community will be divided as to whether you are an actual scammer. Running only makes you look guilty and that's why he's making appearances.  This tactic is not new and TF is running it to perfection.  The victims all take a haircut and he walks away free and clear with a 6 figure score.  

TF is not a dumb guy and there is no way a hack occurred as described, out of ignorance.  This was a deliberate heist, that was likely planned from input.io's inception.  Anyone not smart enough to see that, deserves to lose their money in the future.  Why BCT continues to sponsor this clown and how he has avoided scammer tags, only leads me to believe they are taking a cut and/or love that ad revenue TF pays more than the community members themselves.  Absolutely shameful!  

So he gave an interview, and sees no point in reporting this to the police.  Geee, wonder why a thief wouldn't want to do that.    But dont worry Mr. TF.   It sounds like they will be coming to look for you.

https://i.imgur.com/dJAmvno.png

my wallet is also gone.. 9 BTC!!!

he said he would repay me, ive provided another wallet to him.

i received an email from inputs that i just got 3,92 BTC added to my inputs.io wallet... but the blockchain says:

https://blockchain.info/address/1L7LiipEEW78QJsVf1djqvsthwEGhFjjeh (my inputs.io adress)

im really confused, i transfered all my BTC to inputs.io a few days ago, i know its dumb to do so, but it looked much safer then most other sites to me.

i hope im getting at least something back :(

Just got that superclever mail from him saying that blablablub coinlenders isnt being handled yet, best thing about it is i transfered all btc on the 26th or after it to it. But i guess he and his friends needed some btc ... still waiting to see who is involved in this thing. Still doubt i get fully reimbursed.

What are the forum accounts of the other members?

update: i got 3.92btc of my 8.99btc sent to an offsite adresse.

i hope to see the rest of the coins in the near future, this was a big investment for me.

Hope you get the rest soon , god bless.

pls show proof that TradeFortress issue anyone full-refunds.

and what if he eventually repays everyone back the full amount?
Good way of supporting him.

ok thanks TF

You are kidding right?

It's pretty obvious he has 4100 Bitcoins of OUR BITCOINS  ::)

he is backing him up because that's TF shill account

I'm about to update the OP with other possible people with possible involvement in this "hack"

Because no one in the world ever heard about proxies, renting servers anywhere in the world or vpns.
Edit: And your are not backing up anyone ... no you arent ...

I wonder who these might be.

OP Updated awaiting my ban now for stating theymos was in on it  :'(

I wouldn't be surprised.  Isn't he the one who added TF to the default trust list?

I'm sure there are more than a couple n00bs who blindly trusted him because his trust is was green. 

A ban is possible, but that's not fair.
We should be fee to make an accusation on anyone.

I'm fully willing to take a ban for Justice  :'(

I'm willing to take that risk For Great Justice  :'(

Who is Kluge and why is he being accused?

Good luck with that. Kluge still has the ad signature.

Mention of him is in the updated OP and the reasoning behind it.

I thought Kluge was a Moderator... He doesn't earn anything from that?

Alright I've removed Kluge from the OP

When every dime is repaid to every person who got scammed, I would GLADLY offer a public apology.  Until then, I have not and will not support this clown.  I knew he was a scammer and NEVER would have considered giving this guy any money.  Where there is smoke there is usually fire and he's been hotboxing this forum.  This is a classic scam technic and as you see the forum is torn on what to believe.  He's sitting somewhere laughing his ass off.  He's going to get away with this and it's more sad that you or anyone would defend such behavior and/or be so gullible as to not clearly see this is a premeditated scam by someone who thinks he's untouchable.  

Well, TF went after me on another thread, falsely accusing me of stealing from him even though we never had any agreement.  I know the guy is a bit shady, and this would certainly be a serious amount to get away with.

Freedom of bitcointalk! :)

Hopefully he doesn't get banned.

Not that it's a significant amount, but I thought I'd add my little story. I had an inputs account for my faucet, and had like 0.01 BTC stolen (which was like 3/4 of what was in there). I emailed the contact address, and was told it would get reimbursed. I thought this was strange since nothing was mentioned about how or why it happened, even though I asked. I assumed someone had hacked my faucet or something. After a few days, no reimbursement of course. I emailed again yesterday, and was told to "see the homepage", and saw the hacked notification. So was I the first or second wave of hacked accounts? Who knows.

Not a chance. Policy here is not to ban scammers, to let them full latitude to pay back, which I agree with.
Paying back 70% looks like a very innovative way to scam here, but we need this to be done before going further.

Most scammers over the years will either pay back some amount, or claim that they are going to until everyone forgets.  Usually it's just a matter of waiting a month or so before some even bigger scam or other catastrophe eclipses it.  So, nothing very 'innovative' here.

I beg to differ. If TF actually refunds ~70% to everyone, and handles the loudy people one by one, he will soon be a hero again.
That's a very clever move in my opinion, much better than any previous scam.

Paymium/Bitcoin-Central did much better.  They seem to have refunded almost all Instawallet customers.  The (supposed) hack took place at a value peak, and they price was cut by half by the time they payed out so (if they were scamming) they could have choosen one option or the other depending on what the price did.

One way or another, they ended up with the unclaimed Instawallet funds which were significant.  Most of them they probably got from Jav (original Instawallet developer) for a bargin if they even paid him anything at all.

If the Instwallet thing was a scam, it was well played, and if it was not, they came out well financially anyway.  So 'nicely done' one way or another.

--

I thought most people sensed that Tradefortress was pretty shady.  For whatever reason I abruptly stopped reading about inputs.io when I saw him attached to it.

Thankfully I some time ago started to consider an affiliation with bitcointalk.org to be indicative of someone being a potential scammer.  Unfortunately I suspect that a lot of newbies will be mis-guided by such an affiliation which is, I suspect, "not a bug but rather a feature" as they say.

Methinks Instawallet is still profiting from the coins that were accidentally sent to the people's addresses. I received a few payments on my addresses, so I contacted any people I could find related to Instawallet. Over one month later, I get no response :(

I was very lucky not to lose anything from inputs.io, all I can say is I'm happy that I was sceptical in the first place. I never liked the way others trusted him, never liked this whole ripple debacle and some could say it was more difficult to criticise him than others on this forum.
There are still many users out there, today and yesterday who keep advocating his profile and praise him for providing some users with a partial refund. TradeFortress fucked up very very bad even if he is telling the truth, he is still more than likely extremely negligent. The fact that he refuses to file a police report is in itself means that an inside job was probable (perhaps not certain). A NSW Police spokesman said there was no complaint made and suggested one should be filed and the case would be "treated like any other theft", yes the police are very limited regarding bitcoins but if TradeFortress was confident enough to do the right thing and file a police report then that would prove him to not be a scammer, just negligent.

TradeFortress I have some questions, which you probably won't answer:

1. Why don't you file a police report? Especially after the comments from NSW police. I understand that this is a grey area and you may not know where you stand in regards to the law, after all we're talking about a currency exchange here not a bakery. However, I can't accept that you have not sought advice from a lawyer and if you haven't then that is very very dumb, should have been an absolute priority. Something tells me that you have visited your lawyer and they have advised you that you will get into trouble (by exposing yourself to a possible investigation) if you file a police report. That's the only logical reason I can think of regarding you not filing a police report.

2. Are you even incorporated? Honestly if you are not incorporated and you are operating under your name, 100% everything in your name with all your assets and credit at huge risk then I would be shitting myself 100x more.

3. Finally, as everyone else had suggested why hold so much available btc online? This is finance 101, you could have easily used the internal data freely provided to you to determine how much should be provided online daily and if you can't or don't have time then you should have hired a financial controller.

In the short time that I have been involved with bitcoins and particularly this forum, I have noticed there are some big reasons why small and large bitcoin services fail, two of which I'd like to point out. Firstly, scamming of course and secondly, the owner always places too much work on himself and refuses to hire anyone cause they're 'scared'. I mean really just get your employees to sign an NDA loll.

you must have little btc in inputs.io, thats why no losses.

really strange 4k mixing addresses everywhere and 4k stolen from inputs.io  ???

What about btc @ coinlenders ? are they safe?

Do you even bother reading through the thread before posting these stupid questions?

Yes, I read the threads.

Well, you didn't read all of em. TF said somewhere that because CL would be more complicated to handle than inputs.io, he would post an update about it next week.
Something along those lines.

Thank you so much, friend.

If by "very clever move" you mean "very clever scam," I might agree. 

Seriously, if he gets away w 30% of the fundage and a clean rep to do it again in the future...

Has anyone found more evidence?
How much has TF paid back?

Remember, remember, the 8th of November...

Nope

Not much activity on this request on the 'meta' board either:

  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328820.0

nothing adds legitimacy like a declaration of being a martyr.

those ads were bought by tradefortress. also, donors/VIPs are entitled to one ad slot, see: https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo

I would agree that inputs.io was as insecure as any other web wallet, but I have not seen any posts warning theymos that it was "highly unsecure".

he was given green positive trust because he "Responsibly disclosed forum security flaws".

guilt by association

It's funny how you start digging up everyone and everything pro-tradefortress and start blaming them, but you didn't raise any complaints before it occurred.

the fact that grue is posting in here tells me all i need to know.

I fully agree with this.

A soon as grue starts posting you know Bitcoin Talk was in on it  >:(

1. I myself have warned several members of Bitcoin Talk as well as Staff of Bitcoin Talk about TradeFortress and Inputs.io
2. He didn't disclose a security flaw considering Bitcoin Talk is still not secure and alot of that has to do with not upgrading the forum software after being paid countless amounts of Bitcoins to do so by now
3. I'm not a maytr I just don't take too kindly to that fact theymos openly supports every scammer on Bitcoin Talk from pirateat40 to Zhou Tong
4. It doesn't matter if the ads were paid for by TradeFortress all he had to do was not accept them and actually have some dignity and respect for himself
5. I've warned how Kluge is a troll , a shill and absolutely no one should respect him for the things he has done and the scams he still hasn't paid back for
6. It's not guilt my association It's guilt by factual definition

1) Congrats, I'd be willing to bet there has been a warning against every single Bitcoin business ever, including those with good reputations, so I'm shocked that Theymos didn't decide to banish Tradefortress based on your opinion which turned out correct.

2) Tradefortress did disclose forum security issues, which is how he got Theymos' trust. Just because there were additional issues doesn't mean that he didnt.

3) Theymos openly supports many many people, some of them turn out to be scammers, once he masters future telling, I'm sure he will let us know.

4) Again, why would Theymos refuse advertising to someone who would scam in the future

5) You and Kluge have settled everything, so no need to get into that.

6) By your definition of guilt by factual definition, you should also add the 75 pages of people who were paid to advertise inputs.io as well.

Assuming Tradefortress is a scammer, how is it you can blame people who had affiliation prior to the scam? If Tradefortress had scammed people, and people still continued to support him, I could see a point there, but how exactly was it that Theymos, and those that were advertising for Tradefortress could see the future and knew that they were helping a scammer? Are all of the inputs.io users scammers as well? What if they were happy with the service and recommended it to friends?

For the record, I didn't have an inputs.io wallet, so I've got very little interest other than the scam case itself invested in the situation, I'm just really failing to see your logic in throwing the blame around. To me it looks like either A) Tradefortress actually got hacked, and he is to blame as well as the hacker, or B) He didn't get hacked, stole the coins, and is solely to blame.

I think we've already proven TradeFortress DID NOT get hacked and He's solely to blame  :'(

Ohh and SaltySpitoon you have absolutely nothing to say about scams as you owe a ton of money so go do us a favor and pay it k thx bai...

Who do I owe money to?

Fuck off Supa.

Fuck yourself it's much much cheaper  :D

Hahahahah you are Supa? Don't you owe a bunch of people Bitcoins on Dragon's Tale? I remember you asking me for a loan a few times, and people telling me not to because you don't pay them back.

I pay lots back  ::)

Bitcoin Loans - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Aho8xNxIMyCXdEFnT293NDhSVVFCSzBIQzVfQ2FUN1E&output=html *NEW VERSION*
Bitcoin Loans - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Aho8xNxIMyCXdE1FRjZEUzJtV3VEWi11WU1kQzFBM0E&output=html *OLD VERSION*
Litecoin Loans - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Aho8xNxIMyCXdEpZdXcyNlFvTnM4N2U1SHNZOFVBRmc&output=html
PayPal Loans - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Aho8xNxIMyCXdE1Ra0lqU2xrV1kxMFdzS3ZJY253VGc&output=html

I'm not trying to throw dirt, but given your "shakey" loan history, even if you have paid them back, you of anyone else should be understanding of bumps in plans and at least giving the guy a shot to fix everything? I don't know if its just because I didn't lose money in it, but the fact that Tradefortress is still here and doing something is a bit redeeming. However he can have his full redemption when he pays everyone back everything he owes.

No hate from me really, you are welcome to accuse anyone of anything, I'm just curious as to where you are getting that I owe anyone money from.




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If there weren't at least two other major Scam accusation threads against Tradefortress, I would have been a whole lot more careful not to derail the thread, not that I'm trying to now. I'm not really calling Supa into question anymore, I brought it up, and he told me he paid back his old loans, I'll take his word for it. Like I said, I'm mostly interested into Supa's reasoning for why I owe anyone money. I've never taken any loans, so I'm quite sure I've never defaulted.

haha, i love how the topic will shift from tradefortress to supa now, allowing for a new crop of noobs to be swindled by TradeFaggot

I know nothing about Supa and don't think TradeFortress is innocent even Supa is a scammer.

I don't think this supa could steal 4100 BTCs either.

>misleading claims got refuted by SaltySpitoon
>"SaltySpitoon you have absolutely nothing to say about scams"

LOL

No, OP is Supa.  Why would I say "Fuck off Supa" if I was Supa?

Ohh so he didn't scam anyone?

Sorry I can't get all these Spongebob Squarepants faggots straight...  ::)

that made no sense. Why would he say that to himself?  :P

Still waiting for you to prove my guilt in owing anyone money. If you just wanted to say it to be edgy, thats fine, but don't leave me in suspense.

Also, I'm glad you got the Spongebob reference  :)

Can't the money be tracked?

What does this mean? https://blockchain.info/en/address/1GLadosEkeAsLReqS3yQ51E1R3wVtbJCDF?offset=150&filter=0

https://blockchain.info/address/14nBt8WVBmJ3ichp6m3eGs3BTzmLDyYYTz

https://blockchain.info/tx/1c2c6ee77fd2dd6b622c1270f451fe572a77385e4d62db869f081a35321187d5

At least I found out why I'm not on the Default Trust List--my résumé sucks.

With that, I'm goin' to see how my Thanksgiving in Satoshi Forest threads are doing.

~TMIBTCITW

I think he's implying that you're rippin yourself off. ;D

Last summer I rented 3 Ghash from this guy and got 9-10 Ghash instead ! ??? .. I mean .. :D ;D ;D

Your generosity and good will twords others has likely cost you a freakin fortune. Smarten up ! :P

WOW! It took a Hippie to finally get it...  :D

Ok, well I still don't get it, but I'll stop derailing your thread. If you feel like letting me in on the joke, you can pm me.

The joke was sarcasm  ::)

This whole thread looks like sarcasm at this point, you aren't doing yourself any favors.

Could give a fuck at this point...  ::)

Everybody values their time differently I guess.

their bitcoins too apparently

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24871444

It's been on a few more sites.

@all

Other than location, motive and methodology, does this theft have anything else in common with any of the other big money crypto scams ?

Namely Ozcoin's 800-1000 BTC loss last winter/spring.

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http://youtu.be/cJ1YApg5HlQ

How come MNW is not here this time to bet us that we will all get our money back?

Is TF, btc-banker ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=610197.0

why are people uisng online, cloud, off-cloud-line (just made that term up) wallets ?
choose your wallet, update it once a week so if you need to spend it  ready

is someone trying to portray ths as so complicated your can't control and manage your own wallet.dat/whatever backup file.
i understand (don't approve of, but still) newbies getting haacked but what sort of user whos been here longer than 5 minutes needs an online wallet.

Is there some evidence that he is?  Or am I missing a pretty funny joke about how tf stole millions and now he's back to steal more with an even less elaborate plan?

3% daily interest. :o



I'll give it 60/40 odds that its him... maybe 70% lol..

I see this thread is being referenced by TheNewAnon135246 for a flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=58) against TradeFortress (said flag was created many weeks ago) where TheNewAnon135246 was personally damaged by an actual transaction between the two...

At one point TheNewAnon135246 seemed to be defending TradeFortress:

[Archive (https://web.archive.org/web/20190824095413/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326879.msg3519942)]


[Archive (https://web.archive.org/web/20190824094458/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326879.msg3508872)]


(there are many, many more examples (https://web.archive.org/web/20190824094818/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326879.0;all) where TheNewAnon135246 comes to TradeFortress' defence - these are just a couple of examples)

[Archive (https://web.archive.org/web/20190824095310/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326879.msg3519996)]


VPN's aside for a moment...  ::)

So, given the OP has been offline for two and a half years (https://web.archive.org/web/20190824094111/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=132747) and TheNewAnon135246 was defending TradeFortress - any updates on this issue?

I have known TF since I started using CoinChat (one of his websites). TF came across as a very friendly and helpful guy. I defended him at first because I didn't believe him to be a scammer. Especially since people were wildly speculating without any factual evidence (yet). Call it a complete misjudgement of character ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.