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 I raise pasture fed angus beef in Missouri. To buy with bitcoins directly from the farm, e mail me at andelinpaul@hotmail.com. I am working on a website. I think this is a quality product.

 I  have been raising beef cattle in Missouri for over 20 years. I recently started offering  sale of USDA inspected Angus and Angus/Maine Anjou crossed beef directly to the consumer. These cattle are raised on the “family farm” from birth on open pasture. They are never “dry lotted”. They are never treated with growth stimulants. Antibiotics are only used judiciously and never close to the time of slaughter.
 Both the Angus and the Maine Anjou breeds offer superb quality. Crossing these two breeds yields excellent “hybrid vigor” and delicious meat on the table.
 Currently we offer different cuts of meat as detailed on our website  (andelinlivestock.com) and as noted on this thread above.
  We currently can accept BTC, litecoin, infinitecoin, and many other cryptocurrencies. You can pay directly on the website using bitcoin, or you can private message me to arrange payment with other cryptos.
  If you order beef by the side ( about 200 lbs) , by the quarter ( about 100 lbs) or by the eighth ( about 50 lbs) you may receive a considerable discount. Beef ordered in this manner is usually about 50% ground beef  30% roasts and 20% steaks.
  If you order far enough ahead, we can accommodate custom cuts of meat.
   The beef is shipped in insulated containers with dry ice. Delivery is in 2-3 days . Within the continental U.S. shipping cost is 25.00 plus 1.50/lb. Shipping dates are usually two times per month and are posted. If you need a shipment earlier than the usual time, please let me know and we will try to accommodate.
   There are several customer reviews on the thread if you want to peruse through. There are some photos as well.
  Please post or pm any questions.
  Thanks.
  
You may check out the website: www.andelinlivestock.com. Please pm me or email at andelinpaul@hotmail.com or message me through the website if you want to pay with bitcoin.
 Thanks,
Paul A

Uhm, seems like we lack a bit of information regarding this beef in this thread. Mind being a bit more specific about what it is, how it's produced, perhaps some pictures of your animal's living conditions, the end product, shipping information, proof about the quality, etc.
Nobody will just buy meat from someone like this, lol.

I agree with apsvinet that you'd better to write more information about the beef as now it can tell us anything except it is a beef

atleast the fudge scam had some info about the fudge this guy is not even trying

wow, you're a real charmer-


OP,  this is a GREAT idea and you should pursue it!  Make a website and you'd be one of the first to offer real Angus.  Love to buy some from you sometime.

 so much scammers on this site and when they start the thread off like this with no info at all just email me im pretty sure this is gonna be a scam well see

Hah I guess you're right, he should've bloody answered by now if he tried to run a serious bussiness.

Sold! Where shall I send my BTC?

I have been raising beef cattle for over twenty years in southwest missouri. I had the idea of doing some direct selling of beef to the consumer. In the past, my cattle get sold at the local stockyards. I always raise my own for family use. Some of my friends have said that the meat is really good. This is actually the first time I have ever done a blog. I suppose I am a bit behind the times that way. I was actually interest in feedback as to suggestions. My son is helping me start a website at https://test.andelinlivestock.com. Does anyone think there would be much interest in buying beef for bitcoins? I thought I would put up photos of the farm, discuss details regarding how the animals are raised etc and perhaps some testimonials. Do you think it is important to be able to order directly on the website vs having a contact e mail or phone number. The meat is USDA inspected and would be shipped frozen. Any suggestions on how to guarantee satisfaction? I thought I could request payment after delivery. I am willing to take that risk since I imagine that most people are basically honest. How much lead time do you think people want on an order. Now if someone wants a side of beef, I make an appointment to haul him to the butcher, then they have to process the meat, which takes about two weeks. If I were to get a lot of interest I would butcher animals a head of time. I thought I woulf offer a significant discount for buying in bulk...that is 1/2 of an animal at a time. That equals about 250 lb of meat.
  Do you think I should offer some free steaks or roasts initially to provoke interest?
   What cuts are most people interested in? Current pricing plans are about 6.00 per pound for hamburger, 15.00 per pound for steaks and about 10.00 for roasts on average plus shipping. This is meat that, I believe to be superb quality. The calves are in the pasture. They are fed on grass, hay and some corn. The only antibiotics given are short term for illness. They do not go to a feed lot. They are treated as humanely as I know how. I raise angus cattle and I have recently started crossbreeding with the Maine anjou breed. Both breeds are excellent for meat quality and marbling.  The cross, I think , really leads to a quality product. Anyway, any advise on pricing? ? I plan to have the web site up and hope to be able to deliver in about 6 weeks.
  Any input from anyone interested is much appreciated, particularly in what I can do to built a reputation of trust.
  I became interested in bitcoin about a year ago. I noticed that someone in Australia is accepting bitcoins for beef...hence my interest

maybe this is not a scam

you should use escrow dont send the meat first to just any member

i would try some free steaks but shipping might be alot to hawaii

I have purchased steaks, hamburgers, and roast from andelin in the past, and can attest to the meat being superb.  I realize that the knee jerk reaction to his initial post is to think scam, and if I didn't know him or his product I would say the same thing.  Truth is andelin is by his own admission not a tech guru.  He is a farmer who has an big interest in bitcoin, and raises awesome cattle.  What he is trying to do is see is it worth his time to set up a site and bitcoin purchasing or not.  He makes good money selling cattle the normal way, so if there is no interest then no point in putting forth the expense and effort on the new venture.
I also, realize that in looking how I am new to the forum and have no previous posts it is hard for skeptics to take my recommendation seriously.  I would say to wait for his site to come up with pictures and reserve judgement.  Answer his query with the perspective of "If there were a legit beef seller who took bitcoin would you be interested".  If the answer is yes tell him so.  If you are not interested then that is fine too.  Only time will prove that he is legit or not (spoiler alert he is).  

I would give andelin one piece of advice and that is not to ship beef without payment.  As I said just please answer his original question of would you be interested.  It costs you no BTC to answer.

Agree with the shipping advice - to factor that into the payment of course.

ill buy some steaks to rub on my titties.

Hahaha.
A 1 post account created today, that posted 6 minutes after being created just assured us that the other newbie account seller that refuses to provide any information whatsoever about his product is legitimate.
Thanks mate, I'll have some beef.

this sounds interesting.

I think for bitcoins u need to do like the upper scale side of things. I.e. Ribeye bone In, filet etc be very specific.

small quantities yo a person easier shipping.  For example I wouldn't spend bitcoin on meat I can get at a supermarket.

allow me to buy "Kobe" or one of its DNA breed version I would do that.

I would be happy to pay on delivery and sample your steaks if u would like to do that.  I am a trusted member on the forum and would be happy to do photos etc.

Thanks for your responses. If any of you who responded want, I will send you a couple of sample steaks or roasts. It will be the week of March 16. I just need to get a shipping address. No charge for the meat and I will pay for shipping. It will be valuable for me as "market research" and, hopefully help with the issue of credibility. I will appreciate the feedback. I will have to see if shipping to Hawaii is possible and if so I will send you some there as well.
 How is the best way to get me your shipping address? Do you want to email me?
  Thanks for the in put.

Do u sell dog meat?

if u will ship a free sample to hawaii ill just pm u my addy when needed thanks

To the OP: You're starting to seem a lot more trustworthy now that you updated with some more information, and that's the biggest step when you're trying to start a business. Best of luck with your beef. :)

Was it a transplant?

Ewww man, take that somewhere else. Dog meat is taboo in the western world, do not eat our friends.

Did you hear of rabies yet?

Its a cool thought and a cool way to promote BTC but ii don't why i found this a bit funny  ;D ;D good luck

Personally I don't like the idea of shipping meat. Buy local, spare the environment instead.

I personally think it's a great idea.  There is rising demand for quality beef, especially not-factory-farmed-on-corn-and-leftover-cow-and-antibiotics beef, and that's what you're raising / making.  People interested in this are all over the place, geographically, and not all of them have access to specialty stores that carry such known-good product.  Another market segment are those who just plain like skipping all the middlemen in the food supply, both distribution-wise and money-wise.

I'd recommend finding out the prices of the kinds of beef you sell (cuts and non-factory-condition-living) in stores like Fresh Market, Whole Foods, etc... around the USA, because if it costs much more than those sources, interested customers with access to such stores will have a really hard time justifying the purchase.  I personally buy a lot of mainstream grocery beef, guaranteed to be lower quality than yours, at about a quarter to half the prices you cited...  I have not yet priced the higher quality beef, but I've been thinking about it.  I'd try your business before I tried a chain store with all the middlemen if the prices are similar for roughly same product.

there was someone on here over a year ago selling range fed beef. i think it is ridiculous to come down on someone who is not a geek for not knowing the protocol for selling online. if you don't trust him use an escrow. if you want a bitcoin economy you have to work at it and not intimidate people who want to enter it. he is a rancher not a geek

grow up

what chemicals do you use on your pasture? do you use glyphosphate for weed control?
do you cut your own hay? do you use chemical fertilizers? do you use a rotational paddock
system? does your ranch have any organic certifications?

smart to grow angus they bring the highest prices

Andelin,  if this is legit, I think this is really cool.  We need more agriculture involved with bitcoin.

I personally haven't bought meet from a grocery store for over a decade because I buy my meat directly from a rancher, or hunt and process the meat myself.

Just last Monday I purchased 1/2 a cow (340 lbs or something) and paid with bitcoin. 

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii606/skunkly/bbdb640c-91a0-422f-888a-8566049a5643.jpg

I get a really good deal with a local rancher who is a personal friend, and at the moment my freezers are full, so I may not be a potential customer for you, but I do think there is interest in this.

As far as getting started, I think sending samples out to a few people that are interested, or if you send first and they pay after delivery, might be the best way to get started and build some rep.  Scams happen frequently here... be careful you don't get scammed as well...


Shipping might be expensive to ship to Hawaii, but notserp orders frequently from us, and I'm sure he would give a review for everyone on the forums.

I this is legit, I hope this becomes a successful business.  Good luck to you.

Thanks for your input. I will ship you some meat to Hawaii and pay for shipping if you are still interested. I will plan to ship within the next two weeks if that is convenient for you. I will send you information regarding shipping to make sure the timing fits for you. I am interested in your  honest and candid assessment. If you are still interested please get me a shipping address.
 I am just starting with this concept of direct marketing so I am sure there will be some "bugs" to work out. Right now I am trying to assess interest in my product so your help is appreciated.

hahahaha beeef for bitcoins? xD

Thanks for the encouragement!

hi im still interested ill pm u my addy

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I do cut my own hay but occasionally have had to buy some depending on the season. I think I have bought hay twice in the last fifteen years. I usually use poultry little for fertilizer but I have used commercial fertilizer on occasion.
  Some people do intensive grazing where pastures are rotated every few days. Although this does maximize pasture productivity, I have not done this as it is labor intensive and I have been concerned that the more crowded conditions for the animals may increase the chance of disease.
  I do not have any organic certifications.
  I do not using any hormonal growth stimulants.
  I have raised some of my own corn but depending on feed prices and pasture needs, I buy some corn as well.  I leave the calves on the mothers usually until about 7 months old. This depends some on the condition of the cow, weather stresses and so forth. I have adopted a program of weaning across a fence. This way it is less traumatic for the calf. The calf gets the emotional support of it's mother during the stressful weaning period. This has actually been shown to prevent weight loss associated with weaning. ]
  I try to control weeds with bush hogging but rarely have used commercial chemicals for weed control. I hav only sprayed a small portion of my property on two or three occasions in twenty years.

I think you should find a trusted escrow such as Tomatocage to use for this.

Next you need a price list. Something like:
#1 - Steak package A $xx
#2 - Steak package B $xx
#3 - Steak package C $xx
#3 - Roast package A $xx
#4 - Roast package B $xx
etc

Then people can just PM you with a list of what they want, such as:
"Ill take the following
2 - #3,
1 - #2,
4 - #4
shipped to springfield Il"

You can then forward that PM to your escrow contact. They will do the math and contact you and the buyer with a BTC address and amount that the buyer has to send. Once you see that the address received the coins, you can send out your meat.

Until you get your name established, i would be weary of using a website to buy meat.

Also i would price your meat in USD and then ask for BTC using the bitstamp rate. (that way there is only 1 number instead of a buy amount and a sell amount)
Or if you are going long on BTC you can just ask for BTC but this may seem risky with the volatility of BTC if you will be converting back to USD.

Try to find some hero members willing to try out your product and give a review. Also pics or a youtube tour of your farm would help your offer 1000%. This place is ridden with scammers from across the globe and if you can show you are legit, you will do well. 


 

Hey, thanks so much for your thoughtful input.. This is just the kind of advice I need to consider. I will get some photos up on a website and start looking into an escrow.
thanks again

Here are some pictures of the farm....

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/GoBeyondGreen/bitcoin/Bulls003_zps087ef5c1.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/GoBeyondGreen/media/bitcoin/Bulls003_zps087ef5c1.jpg.html)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/GoBeyondGreen/bitcoin/Bulls001_zps52a98fad.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/GoBeyondGreen/media/bitcoin/Bulls001_zps52a98fad.jpg.html)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/GoBeyondGreen/bitcoin/Bulls002_zpsf0922d0f.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/GoBeyondGreen/media/bitcoin/Bulls002_zpsf0922d0f.jpg.html)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/GoBeyondGreen/bitcoin/IMG_3190_zps297492fd.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/GoBeyondGreen/media/bitcoin/IMG_3190_zps297492fd.jpg.html)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/GoBeyondGreen/bitcoin/IMG_7847_zps73a2a9c3.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/GoBeyondGreen/media/bitcoin/IMG_7847_zps73a2a9c3.jpg.html)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/GoBeyondGreen/bitcoin/IMG_7838_zps3200173e.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/GoBeyondGreen/media/bitcoin/IMG_7838_zps3200173e.jpg.html)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/GoBeyondGreen/bitcoin/IMG_7827_zps17821b97.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/GoBeyondGreen/media/bitcoin/IMG_7827_zps17821b97.jpg.html)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/GoBeyondGreen/bitcoin/100_5452_zps559fe318.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/GoBeyondGreen/media/bitcoin/100_5452_zps559fe318.jpg.html)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/GoBeyondGreen/bitcoin/100_3828_zps47cbc893.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/GoBeyondGreen/media/bitcoin/100_3828_zps47cbc893.jpg.html)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/GoBeyondGreen/bitcoin/100_3823_zpsdccebd7a.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/GoBeyondGreen/media/bitcoin/100_3823_zpsdccebd7a.jpg.html)

Aren't you the guy who claimed to have bought from this guy before? Why do you have these pictures that the OP himself should provide?
Are you mixing up which one of your accounts you're posting with, OP? ;)

Also, you have no proof so far that those are your pictures

I am indeed the guy who said I bought from him.  As I said before, and andelin has said himself he is not tech savvy.  He asked me to post some picture for him, or help him post them.  Since he is remote from me it is easier to just post pictures than to walk him through how to do it. 

andelin has done everything up to the point of sending samples to people and he is still considered a scammer, and now because I helped him out I am too.

On a separate note - here is a link to a business I am involved in that takes bitcoins now - made the local news:

http://www.kspr.com/news/local/springfield-business-accepting-bitcoin-as-payment/21051620_24929474

They are not my pictures, but I can say on the tractor one that is andelin with his grandson - man does he look like such a scammer and thief.  Please tell us all what andelin could do to prove he owns a farm?  Send his geolocation and google maps satellite view?  I mean at that point you would say he randomly picked a location.  Send you his name, SSN, registration with the county for the land, and 1040 form to prove he owns the land and farm?  At some point I guess someone just has to have a little trust and be willing to spend that $6.00 (or whatever price is) per lb on hamburger and roll the dice they will get meat in the mail. 

Hi
 I don't blame you for being suspicious. I can see your point. I will get some samples soon and perhaps that will allay some suspicion. I wasn't sure how to post the photos so I had a friend who is more tech savvy do it for me.
 Thanks for your interest and input so far.

dont worry i dont even know how to post photos always have get my brother to help me lol

What worries me is that you're the one with the pictures, claiming with a new account in your first post that the beef seller is legitimate.
It seems to me ( and I would assume everyone else, cause lets face it - it's kinda obvious ) that you've 2 accounts posting positive feedback about yourself, which is worrying.

I'm not accusing anyone, but for your own benefit trying to make you improve your chances of attracting customers, given this is a legitimate business.

I don't think people are being solicited for their trust at this stage... they're being solicited for whether or not they think this would be a good business... i.e. would people be willing to buy beef, direct from the farmer, via Bitcoin.  For me, the answer is yes, and it costs me nothing to provide that.

Anyone's first business venture in the Bitcoin arena will face the trust issue, because, yes indeed there are scammers out there.  I'd like to think that a majority of us who go through the work of setting up a business, providing details about what we offer, making some introductory deals to get sales going, etc... can get our feet in the door, get some customer feedback that establishes some trust, etc...  If every new Bitcoin business venture is greeted with "scammer, gtfo" then that's going to hobble this currency's growth and ensure we stick with middlemen like Paypal and shit.  Boo.  Escrow can solve this problem, and we already have facilities for that, so I don't see the need to go into defense / attack mode, especially when no trust has been asked for yet.

The next big thing for Bitcoin will be a useful (and usable) web of trust system that's as easy to work with as eBay feedback.  Something decentralized, peer-to-peer, etc... will allow for that, and it'll cost nothing.  I'm surprised it doesn't exist yet, but it will soon.

1. Agreed with your statements
2. bitcoin-otc
3. I'm rootin for this guy. Can't say he's gonna have the widest audience, but I can damn well say he's probably the first guy selling beef to accept bitcoin. Hope he can work out any kinks, gain trust, streamline, and automate the process to generate a shit ton of income.

If you want to private message me I will ship a free sample. I will pay shipping costs. I would appreciate your honest appraisal as to the quality of what I am marketing and I am open to suggestions as well. This will help me do my market research. I hope to be prepared to accept orders with 4 to 6 weeks. Thanks for your interest.

maybe u should send to someone else whos been on the forum for a while and has some rep up to you though


1100 views alot of people want meat

That is a real good idea - use some people who are known on the site as reputable and send to them.

I got your private message OP. I'm just gonna put it like this. I will not eat anything that's been shipped to me by a stranger. Meat, candy, bread, vegetables, nothing. Not that I think anyone would deliberately send food samples to deliberately poison someone, but there's always a risk. I hope however that someone takes you up on that offer, gets a sample, and finds it alright so you can get your business started.
I won't be that guy, but I'm thankful for the offer.

Best of luck.  :)

Thanks for the encouragement. I shipped out several samples today. I am hoping for some favorable reviews in a few days. I encourage any evaluation of my product to be honest and candid. I shipped in insulated containers with small amounts of dry ice. My more technologically gifted sons are working on a website which should be up in a couple of weeks...at least an initial version. One of the real challenges is to anticipate the demand. I have to schedule butchering. That takes time  since the meat is aged 2 weeks or so before cutting .
 I am also looking into the optimal shipping options.

  I assure you the burger you get at mcdonalds is not any safer than what you get from this guy. The same could be said for every time you go out to eat in a restaurant or have some one else prepare your food.

I'm happy that you are spreading BTC but the end of that article made me lol. "Peterson also doesn't trust the system not to be hacked.  Last week a Bitcoin exchange in Japan shut down suddenly and $500 in Bitcoins just vanished."
Last week a Bitcoin exchange in Japan shut down suddenly and $500 in Bitcoins just vanished.
$500 in Bitcoins just vanished.

Alot of people on this forum wish that this were the case  ;D

Hi:
 I just got a message that my first shipment of beef was thawed out on arrival. I must not have used enough dry ice. Any of you who received a non usable sample I am glad to ship again with more dry ice. I apologize if anyone else gets a thawed sample. I will be glad to ship another sample with more dry ice. I sincerely apologize for any inconvenience.

I was that person i assume,  not worried.  THe more dry ice the better hate to say it, shipping is going to cost mroe than the meat itself, this is what i said up above that it is going to be more important to go for the "best of the best" vs just beef for bitcoin.

The steaks were thawed but still cold in my shipment. The ground beef was still frozen. I took some pics...
https://i.imgur.com/Abp9Sl3s.jpg

Gallery of pics at http://imgur.com/a/45FNQ

Was it ok? Have you tried it?

Just got it today. I am planning on firing up the grill tonight  :)

i hope u put more ice in mine since it is coming to hawaii

I did put more dry ice in yours but if it comes thawed I apologize in advance and will make sure that I do not repeat this mistake.
 thanks,
PA

cool hopefully it gets here ok

aww I'm so jealous. Not sure the ice would last long enough for a trip to the UK :P

They look stunning to be fair

Just got home from work and the package wasn't here.  :'(

Is there a tracking number?

Hopefully the ice lasts...

I hope the ice lasts too!!  I do have a tracking number but , unfortunately I am at work all night and I do not have the tracking number with me. I can get it to you tomorrow. Hopefully the package will arrive tomorrow and the tracking number will be irrelevant. I am going to do some homework and be certain to put enough dry ice in next time. Thanks for your patience as I am getting this off of the ground.

Cooked the steaks up tonight and they were delicious. My son who is in preschool ate 2/3's of 1 of these bad boys. Thick cut, great marbling, one of the best steaks I've ever eaten.

https://i.imgur.com/y6ijTl9.jpg

I received my samples today. There was enough dry ice, but its still very cold here. I will post my review once I have had a chance to cook them. If the previous reviews are an indicator I will certainly be a customer.

Original Poster did give an email for more information.  This is a touchy topic for numerous reasons that come to my mind.  People are wanting to be sure they are getting a high quality safe product and I'm sure the seller is trying to avoid any legal issues that may come along with selling his product for BTC.  

I was excited by this thread and I'd love to see high quality organic products being sold for Bitcoin.  If folks to try the product please post a review, thanks

Edit I didn't read the whole thread but it seems my dreams have come true lol, good talk.  

I'd better buy bitcoins with beef. ;D How do you find this idea?

Sooo fkn jelous, the dry ice will never be enough for a shipping to italy :(

14:30 got a call at work from home that the meat package arrived.

Me: "How do you know it is the meat package?"
Son: "Because when I opened the door the mailman said "Be careful. It's bleeding"."

I ran home to check it out and to see if it was still cold.  The steaks were nicely wrapped in butchers paper, the ground beef was in those ground beef plastic bags.  All were put into a larger zip-lock bag (which was not sealed).  Then everything was put into a Styrofoam shipping container and put into a cardboard box.

Knowing previously that there was the possibility of not enough dry ice in the shipments, and that for some reason, it took an extra day to get to me, I expected that it wouldn't arrive frozen.

The meat was completely thawed, not warm, but not cold.  With the leakage all over the box and in the package I checked for any bad odors.  There were none.

Had there been enough dry ice and a sealed zip-lock bag, this would have been exactly what was expected.

I would recommend always giving the tracking number to the recipient.  I was at the post office 3 times yesterday dropping off honey and caramels.  Had I had the tracking number I might have been able to have picked it up earlier.  Also it helps reduce stress for the paying customers letting them know that things are on their way.

I think this looks promising!  Hope this works out for you.



This isn't the first time on these forums that shipping hasn't gone as smoothly as hoped for.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68747.msg848232#msg848232 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68747.msg848232#msg848232) ;)

Edit: zip-lock bag was from my wife who opened the box and put the meat in the bag before putting it in the frigde.
  

Wheres the beef?
But seriously that sounds kind of interesting but more information in the OP post would be helpful although did see it after reading through the thread.

Edit In: Since Bees Bros. said it came guess it works thanks for the heads up and commenting ;)

At least it beats Biohazard quality Thai Honey ha-ha

my meat didnt come yet :(

Wow, so sorry the meat did not arrive. I can see that I have some homework to do. I am determined to get this shipping issue right. Again, my apologies..

np not really your fault

As long as it's just shipping errors there's no need to be worried! :)

just got it blood dripping allover the place opened just the box not even the cooler and it stinks

does the insurance cover it?

I am in Hawaii as well and would love a sample of some grass fed beef from your farm.  I will pm you my address as well.

i dont think hes gonna ship anymore free samples he got enough good reviews already just got to work on shipping it ealier in the day and the website and prob alittle more dry ice

After I posted that the package arrived we put it in the fridge and I went back to work.
Later that evening I opened up the T-bone and Rib Eye steaks, and they looked and smelled fine.  I figured they had recently thawed out and were ready to go. (We did throw out the ground beef).

15 year old son tried a new steak sauce.  Equal amounts of red cooking wine and honey, lots of freshly ground pepper, and several crushed garlic cloves.  He served it with steamed vegetables (broccoli, bell pepper, onions, and mushrooms) with a honey wine vinegar drizzled over it.  Also some wheat bread just out of the oven with lots of honey. ;)

Turned out a very good meal.  The meat was fine, glad we didn't toss it out!  There were two of each type of steak, thick slices, and it fed 6 people.

If I had not bought a 1/2 a cow (with bitcoins  8)) a week before this thread was created, and didn't have a friend locally who I buy from, I would consider buying from andelin before purchasing from the grocery store.

Figuring out how to ship a perishable item is a tricky thing and I consider the problems of this first run not to be an issue.  I think everyone can order from andelin without worrying about it being a scam.

We meant to take some pictures, but we were pretty hungry and it smelled really good once it was cooked...and we forgot to grab the camera.

No need to send a replacement shipment to us.  Thanks for sharing.

Hello,
Are you shipping to Bulgaria? If so i would be interested.

BR,

Gondel

Wish I could!

Shiping to croatia?

Nice review, happy to hear people are satisfied, couple more of these and OP will have some nice + reps.
Keep it up!

Yes indeed thanks for the reviews and updates and those yummy pics!  I requested a sample as I'm in North East USA and hope to hear back from Andelin about that.  Enjoy what looks to be some high quality beef folks.

That would be cool....but might be kind of difficult!

so what is the price range

I am working on pricing now.I will post something in a couple of days. But generally I am looking at about 5.00 per lb for hamburger, 8.00 per lb for roasts and 13.00 per lb for steaks (depending on cuts of course). Shipping will be additional cost . I am hoping to offer significant discount for orders over ten lb.

Right now I am planning to only offer to sell my best beef direct. I hope to offer something that is uniformly of  very high quality. If I think an animal does not measure up, then he gets sold by the conventional route at the local stockyards.

Tried the roast last night in the crock pot. It was pretty good. The meat was falling off of the bone.

Scoring: best out of  /10
Shipping speed 10/10
Packing 10/10
Cuts 9/10
Marbling 10/10
Freshness 10/10
Tenderness  10/10
Taste 9/10 ( I would give it a 10 but I have had cuts with more flavor)


Overall I am very satisfied and plan to be a repeat customer. Thank you!

March, 2014

First official Beef for Bitcoins thread lol

I'm interested, what's your current pricing? Still sending out samples or lower priced samples?

Prices seem about right, if translated to the ones in my own country. With shipping it could be a bit expensive as it seems, but quality costs I guess.

Just Thought it worthy to note that for those in Aus there is http://www.honestbeef.com.au/index.php (http://www.honestbeef.com.au/index.php) that excepts Bitcoin.

I have not tried them as I think am too far from them for shipping.

Packs are 20Kg so make sure you have plenty of freezer space.

   I use Lockwood Packing at Lockwood Missouri. The meat is USDA inspected. I have been pleased with their services so far.
The butcher will do custom cuts to order. I have been getting a variety of steaks, roasts and ground beef. I think that the quality has been quite good. Depending on the quantity you want,and if you give me enough notice, we can do custom cuts that you want. 
  I am working on a price schedule now, but I think that the price will be very competitive for similar quality beef. You will likely get a significant saving if you order a side of beef or one quarter of a beef.
   We should have a website up soon with more details.

I am working on a pricing schedule.Does anyone have input regarding:
  1:most desired/popular cuts?
  2: interest in discounts for larger orders
  3: interest in discounts for a  medley type order with a combination of steaks, roasts, hamburger
  4: interest in custom cuts , this could be arranged through the packing company I am using

I hope to be open for "pre orders" in a week or two. I appreciate those who have so far expressed interest.

I am looking into using an escrow company, as has been suggested on this thread, at least until my reputation is established.

thanks for the many helpful suggestions thus far. I am interested in any further interest. \

Thanks again

I have a feeling I'll be most interested in the quater cuts but I can't say so for sure it wouldn't be just me making the purchase. Also  interests in discounts for larger orders and medley types are intriguing but I'll know more of what I'd like in the coming weeks just wanted to give you some feedback.

That's gross, man.

First of all, I want to thank Paul for shipping me a roast... It will arrive Thursday, and I look forward to roasting it up, sharing it with some friends, and posting some pics and taste test results here.

To answer the questions here:

1. For me, roasts, burgers, strips, sirloin, and ribeye.
2. Makes sense to me.
3. I'd be interest in that too.
4. Standing rib roasts, and hanger steaks.

As for escrow, I'd be happy to do it, but, if you want a real trusted name, I would use Tomatocage or Nightowlace

Jake

The more discounts you can give for larger orders the better, it will certainly increase the interest. If people order once and are satisfied, chances are they'll order larger shipments next time.

I don't think you need an escrow, the reviews you have here should suffice to show that its a legitimate business. Just use Bitpay or Coinbase to process the orders.

yep what this guy said i dont think u need escrow

>aus
why am I not surprised  ::)

Australian beef not sure is there a difference in the quality or types of grain they use to feed cows
Know Kobe is famous for marbling but not sure on the fineness as some other people are with meats

I tried the t-bones, sirloin, and burgers yesterday. They were even better than the roast! Marbling on the tbones looked and tasted great.

Got my sample today!!
Here are some pics to show packaging and meat.

http://imgur.com/aaxeAsu,lYAwuhG,U0s2TDZ,99bZr9D,YOPEQqY

Beef came perfectly packaged and frozen.
Ill update when I cook them!

OMG, they look stunning!

It doesn't look like you'll find it hard to find customers here with a product as good as this.

I received my package and was not home to receive it so I didn't take pictures of it in the box when it arrived in.  I'm happy to report the meat was frozen when it reached my doorstep and was packed well in a nice Styrofoam container just like the other more established companies ship it out so if others were wondering I give it a +1 on shipping quality...

I was glad I reread this post and found the information I was looking for in regards to the kind of feed you give your cattle and the mention of little use of antibiotics was also a big plus in my book.  I don't know how to thank you for sending out a sample other then to give you a honest review of my thought on the meat which I'll begin to do in the coming days.  I wish I had read the whole thread as I would have probably made a request but it doesn't matter, I'm very happy with what you sent.  More info to come, thanks again andelin!   

They are stunning, and he won't have problems finding customers!

I got my roast in the mail yesterday.  Frozen solid, perfectly marbled.  It looks so flavorful, I am almost have a hard time believing its grass fed!  (I do believe it, just saying, there is a nice amount of fat in the roast)

I am going to braise it this weekend with onions, carrots, salt, pepper, beef stock, thyme, rosemary, red wine, garlic, and button mushrooms.  Will post pics of the process and outcome. 

After that I plan to order a standing rib roast, burger meat, some tenderloin...

BTCeef! 

Unless its for a low cost, I'd recommend against using USPS.


They fat fingered my zipcode and sent it an hour away, forwarded somewhere unknown from there. Phone support is ridiculous and branch support is beyond incompetent, all of them should be fired. Hopefully nothing goes bad.


edit: Just arrived, two steaks and ground beef, looks amazing. Will update after dinner.


Scoring: 10/10
Shipping speed 8/10
Packing 9/10
Cuts 9/10
Marbling 9/10
Freshness 10/10
Tenderness  10/10
Taste 11/10


Added salt and pepper to the ground beef and nothing else. One of the best burgers I've ever had. Steaks amazing as well.

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I thank all of you who have been so supportive as we have tried to get this off the ground. I will post beef and shipping prices and payment options Monday April 7. I will be ready to ship on or before April 30. Thanks again.

I can't wait for the pricing etc. to be released. Those steaks look amazing! Hopefully by the time your ready to start taking orders I am quick enough to get an order in and not miss out on first shipments.

Edit: To answer your questions
1:most desired/popular cuts? 
Ground, burgers, short loin, brisket, sirloin.

2: interest in discounts for larger orders
Possibly, depends on when I can buy another freezer to store it all.

3: interest in discounts for a  medley type order with a combination of steaks, roasts, hamburger
Very much yes, I love almost all cuts of beef and a medley package would work out great for my family.

4: interest in custom cuts , this could be arranged through the packing company I am using
Not really but I'm sure others might be.

Every time I read this I feel terrible that I liveon the other side of the world. I love good meat, and this just looks awesome. You are goign to have a very big amount of costumers, I wish you the best in the bitcoin/meat business :).

thank you for your kind wishes

OK i got my free samples today. I would like to start this off by saying thank you. Your generosity is truly appreciated.

You asked me to do an honest review and provide tips and feedback so here we go. You shipped this USPS priority on March 25. It was suppose to arrive March 27.  It was delivered March 29. There was no dry ice left in the cooler. The meat was not frozen or even cold. Blood and fluids was leaking out of the cooler and all over the box. The postman usually says hi, good morning, or i have a package for you. When he handing me this package he said "here" with an unhappy tone. With blood all over the box i dont blame him for not wanting to handle it.

This is what i suggest to help make delivery a little smoother for you. The post office is the worst carrier. They handle the most mail so lost damaged or late packages is common. If they would have delivered on the 27th instead of the 29th this may not have happened. I recommend using UPS or Fedex 2nd day. If you do use the post office ship next day cause its guaranteed next day and it comes with $100 insurance in case the meat does not arrive in good condition. Only ship monday or tuesday if not shipping next day cause Fedex and UPS will not delivery on saturday unless you pay extra. If this was not delivered today (saturday) it would have delivered monday and it would have been an even bigger mess. Try to ship as early as possible so your package ships with the current days packages instead of sitting around and going out with the next days packages. I also recommend you work on your packing. Im not sure why there was news paper in the cooler, but plastic wrap and paper is not a good idea. I suggest zipper bags so the fluids dont leak all over.

I like the idea of buying meat straight from the farm with BTC. But since this is a perishable product its not going to be easy. I have a feeling even if you do everything right there will still be complications which turns in to unhappy customers and financial loss for you. It can be done successfully but it will be very challenging. I dont recommend you do large orders until you have fulfilled alot of orders without problems.

Thank you for your honest input. I am realizing USPS may not work out. Thanks again. When I get all these issues solved, if you would like, I will send another sample.

Ya the post office sucks. They lost a package of mine a few months ago. Completely lost it and didn't know where it was even though it had tracking. Two weeks ago they mishandled another package and the goods was damaged. I filed a claim and they haven't even reviewed the claim yet. It will probably be a two month ordeal. If this would have arrived in the 2 days they advertise the ice probably would not have melted. I unwrapped the steak and took a good look at it. The meat is thick and looks like a good cut of meat. Half of it was nice and red but the other half was dark and starting to go bad. I decided to cut away the dark part and fry up the rest. It was tender and juicy but after a few bites i did notice a particular taste. Unless you are brave i dont recommend people eat it if its not frozen. I would definitely appreciate another try, but i know there is cost involved for you so unless you really want to dont worry about it. I know shit happens. I wish you the best and hope you have good luck with the BTC community. People around here like to buy all kinds of things so if you can perfect the shipping you should be fine.

I would love to send another sample ....this time I will use a different carrier ande get it right. I will pm you in the next few days.

OK - thank you sir.

I am realizing USPS is not going to be dependable enough. I am investigating Fed ex and UPS. Anyone have any useful experience with either?

thankks for being willing to try a sample. I imagine you do alot of shipping. Any thoughts on UPS anf Fed ex? I am realizing that I need dependable delivery times when I am dealing with shipping something perishable.

So, as promised, here is my review.

I'll start with the basics:

Packaging and shipping 10/10

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I asked for a roast, I thought about asking for more, but I figured I would just stick with a roast and I would do up a review and that it was a fair deal.  I'll be asking to buy some tenderloin and ground beef asap btw!

Anyway, so I got a chuck roast, and figured to myself, let's braise it...

So here are the cast of characters, aside from some egg noodles:

The Roast, Mixed Mushrooms, Carrots, Onions, Garlic, Salt, Pepper, EVOO, a decent Pino, Rosemary, Thyme, and some stock.

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The process:

After sauteing the onions, carrots, and mushrooms separately I browned the roast in the hot dutch oven, after liberally applying salt, pepper, and garlic.

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I then deglazed the pan, and added it all back in the pot:

A couple three hours at 250 later:

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Finally, boiled off some egg noodles, cooked a little asparagus with olive oil, lemon and lime juice and a dash of salt for a really darn good meal:

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The meat was flavorful, and super tender.  Usually I wouldn't go for a chuck roast with grass fed beef, I tend to favor the Chateaubriand/Filets or ground beef with grass fed.  This was however a great roast.  It was tender, and fell right off the bone.  Everyone thoroughly enjoyed it.

Paul - as I said, I'd love to place an order.  If you'd like to send me out any other cuts: steaks, roasts, burgers, whatever, I'd be more then delighted to do another little review with pictures and all.  But, either as some samples or if you'd be so kind as to allow me to place an order, I'd like to get some more of your BTCeef!

Frankly personally   have shipped lots of items as a retailer here and on Bay for several years and I have found the USPS to be most reliable in my opinion. What class of shipping are you using priority? If so I suggest overnight. Shipping is more but if it is not delivered on time they refund the shipping cost. On the other hand Fedex and ups have given me lots of problems before. This may vary from region to region.

After reading that review on the roast and seeing all of those pictures, I just wonder to myself........ Why is it not April 7th yet! That looks absolutely amazing!! I can not wait to get a chance to try a few different cuts.

We are starting to use FedEx more.  They have some flat rate shipping options that might work better for you with the heavy weights you will be sending.
Not sure if that is the best solution, but that is where I would start looking.

I really agree.  I am just a little sad I didn't jump earlier and get more stuff.  That said I am ordering a chateaubriand, bone in ribeyes, and ground beef.  Like I said in my post, for grass fed beef, you really need the ribeye, tenderloin, or to grind the beef.  I was really happy with the roast, it turned out great.  Even for 3 hours of slow braising I wouldn't have expected grass fed beef to be that tender.

I look to be ordering from you in the (somewhat) near future.  Did you ever get a website up or is contact still via email?

we have a website that we are still adding to but you can check it out: www.andelinlivestock.com.
Will be posting a pricing list and shipping information by 09:00 April 7.
  I am taking a nice steer to be processed on April 7. Meat will be ready for shipping about April 23. I have a group of steers ready over the next few months and have several scheduled in April, May and June. If you know generally what type of cuts you might want it might help me to know ahead of time. Thanks
Paul Andelin

Can you provide an acceptable inspection certificate for import into Japan?

I had not seriously thought of sending overseas. I am not sure of the legal requirements, not to mention shipping costs. Do you seriously think that there would be interest in Japan?

just received my replacement shipment nice and frozen but im sure it wasnt cheap for one day shipping to hawaii thankyou

you re welcome! I hope you enjoy.

roasts and sirloins please!

I'm not really a beef connoisseur.  I mean I love my bacon wrapped fillet mignon but don't go out of my way to get the freshest high quality beef I can.  I've always wanted to try grass fed organic beef so this is the closest I've had and I'm a huge fan.  Seems to me you've got some very good stock and you take pride in the quality of your product which is really all I can ask for. 

Ok so here is my little review on the ground beef.  It was splendid.  Seriously I really liked it alot!  The flavor of the meat the first time I cooked it was perfect.  I cooked it and added it in a simple red sauce and it transformed a very plain dish.  I did try it first before adding it to the sauce and it was magnificent with a very distinguishing flavor that is hard for me to put my finger on.
  I'm mad I didn't take notes as I ate but I'll do my best to give a fair description.  I just loved the graininess of the meat.  Not sure it that is the correct word to use but that is what comes to mind.  I could see it in the meat when it is cooked that it has great texture.  It's just looks grainy and fresh once cooked and it makes your mouth water looking at it.  Very tender and I honestly don't think I've had better ground beef before.  I found myself making a quick meal with the ground beef at the last minute so really didn't even think about taking pictures but I will have some of the rib eyes.

This has been a very positive experience from the beginning, the package arrived fast and with no problems.  The only things I'd suggest is work on the presentation of the inside of the package.  My order arrived fine but it didn't have the eye appeal I think the meat deserved.  Mainly the dry ice and newspaper were the issue.  The meat looked great and professionally wrapped and that is my real concern.  The Ground beef wrapper had a couple tiny tears but if the meat stays frozen(which it did) that is not an issue for me. 
So to recap, the meat and it's packaging are great.  The packing material in the pkg itself needs tweaking and I know you are already aware of this.  I didn't expect everything to be perfect as your just starting but I honestly have to applaud you on your effort thus far.  I hope nothing but the best for you and your company and thank you for letting me try you product.  I look forward to trying more in the future, cheers!   :)

     

Buying beef with Bitcoin? Definitely not something you see everyday, eh? :P This looks pretty awesome.

@jakedeez

Looks delicious!!!! I don't usually eat beef but that looks awesome  :o :o :o :o :o

Can you PM me your website or an list of choices maybe some pictures? Let me know. Thanks!

i suggest dont send overseas because it took a days or week to recieve the meat and it will only destroy since it needs to be frozen

Agree, shipping overseas will just include problems. Would cost people so much to buy that it wouldn't create any interest due to the shipping. Plus you're right, you'd need to do a lot of legal research.

yes she can only shipped it to some nearby places or close enough to her country to maintained the quality of the meat

I have following this thread and it's reviews. I am very interested in trying this.  Good meat is very hard to Comby in Newfoundland.   Would you be willing to ship to St. John's Newfoundland canada.  If so could your pm me a list of available toes and costs.  I think this a great idea and I hope we see more like this come up.   I myself was thinking of selling lobsters or muscles as they are very good here

Please let me know

Thx

I did some brief research on exporting meat to Canada. It is possible but requires certain steps to go through that make it impractacle for us currently. If there was enough demand, perhaps some time in the future...
 thanks for your interest. That would be really cool to market sea food.
  We are working on a website: www.andelinlivestock.com. It is very simple right now but on April 7 we will have our first prices posted.

Tomorrow morning I am going to post on the website www.andelinlivestock.com a price schedule if anyone is interested in placing orders for beef. You can pay with bitcoins. I will also post tomorrow on this forum as well.

due to the number of comments i can conclude that buying beef with bitcoins is very popular

I am looking forward to check  the price schedule and according to comments the the quality of beef is good

And the BTC has left the building!  BTCeef soon!

Lol!

Hi everyone:
 
  I have decided that I need to lower our pricing significantly. We posted initial pricing on the website www.andelinlivestock.com We will be amending these as follows.

Ground beef:    1 lb package        5.75USD                Rump Roast  3.5 lb        30.00USD

Brisket:             3.5 lb             42.00 USD                Pike's Peak roast 3.5 lb  30.00 USD

Short ribs:         3.5 lb             42.00USD                 Stew meat         1 lb     7.00 USD

TriTip roast:        3.5 lb            35.00USD                 ox tail               1 lb      5.00USD
                                                                          Kansas City Strips  10 oz  11.00USD
bone in Ribeye   14-16 oz          15.00USD                  shipping is 25.00 for the first ten lbs and 1.50USD / lb thereafter. However for orders received before
                                                                           May 1, total shipping is 25.00 for anywhere in the continental US.
Tenderloin filet        8 oz           10.00USD                  Payment is preferred in BTC but USD are accepted and I am making arrangements to accept infinitecoin as
                                                                           well.
Sirloin steak           16 oz          12.00 USD
                                                                            You can order by PM me or by checking the website www.andelinlivestock.com.
Chuck roast           3.5 lb          30.00USD                  First orders will be shipped April 28.
                                                                           For those who have already placed orders at higher prices,  you will be
Arm Roast             3.5 lb          30.00USD                   charged the lower price when we get ready to ship. For those who have paid already, I will ship extra meat
                                                                            compensate for any price differential.  thanks for all your encouragement. Paul A

Paul - I am not 100% sure that you need to lower your prices, the quality of the meet is outstanding.  If you however, want to lower them, I for one will not complain!

Perhaps he is happier doing more volume of sales in crypto? A lower price would induce this.

You are right. I am especially anxious to get my meat out there. I am still open to any suggestions that anyone might have. I have some expertise in  raising cattle but the direct marketing is a learning experience for me.
  BTW.  Does anyone have an opinion regarding wrapping of the cuts of beef? Would vacuum wrap be preferred over the old fashioned butcher paper.?

Vacuum packing would be great! Considering most of these cuts are bound for a freezer this would reduce freezer burn.

Paul, I also think vacuum sealing is a very good idea.

Jake

just got my order in cant wait to try more beef

put your pre order in before all the beef is gone

 bump

My first beef is about sold, except for the ground beef. I am taking a young heifer in for processing tomorrow am. Most of my steers are supplemented with some corn. This heifer, however, is only grass and pasture fed. she will be quite lean. If anyone is interested in this please pm me or you can go to the web site and order there. Just specify that you want only grass fed.
 none of my animals go to a feed lot. They are all treated humanely and fed on pasture, home grown hay and some are given some corn as well (much of which we grow here).
  I am taking in a young bull in later this week. He will have had more corn and , therefore, will likely have more marbling. Beef from both animals will be aged for about 2 weeks. Therefore, the meat will be ready for shipping about 3 weeks from now. If you scroll up a little on the thread you will see my most recently posted prices. Or you can go to www.andelinlivestock.com. If the site shows that we are sold out of what you want , you can still order ahead and indicate in the box where it says address, that you want your order the "next available time" - which should be in about three weeks.
  Our first orders will go out April 28, 29.
Thanks.

This thread is taking me back to being a teenager, I secretly want to reply to every post that contains the word "meat"..

I'm sad to report I made a mistake the the rib eyes you sent by trying to age the meat without the knowledge on how to do so..
 I didn't take pics because I didn't think it was a fair representation of the product.  Also the first steak I grilled burned a bit.  So needless to say I messed up with them I did a better job with the 2nd steak but could have been better(overcooked).  I loved the meat an will no doubt be ordering more.  I just want get others interested to go on order with me.  I truly like the quality of beef you offer and would recommend others here give your beef a try.

I'm truly sorry for not doing a fair review of you Ribeye but I'll be sure to post reviews of products I get in future orders.

Hi,
Do you deliver worldwide? I mean to Europe..What will be the prices ?
BR,

Gondel

I sent a message on your site about paying VIA Fiat. Would like to send my Parents some good beef. Military stationed in GUAM.

.

I'm pretty sure andelin is only shipping within the U.S. at this time

Sorry for not being clear my parents live in the U.S.

yeah im pretty sure hes only doing US it can barely make it to hawaii frozen in two days with no ice left

Dude get your online presence together and you could sell a shit ton of beef my man. This would be bad ass and a lot of people are looking for grazing raised beef to buy these days. You can kill this market if you get your shit together here. Man I can see this getting huge. You should PM me I can help you with a website and marketing and getting all your online presence together. We can agree on terms.

If you truly raise these cattle and are ready to take off please PM me. Dead serious.

GREAT NEWS i am actually in Springfield, MO so i might be interested and i will pick up :) i normally buy like buffalo

Cool. If you want to come by, let me know. I go to Springfield sometimes...if you wannt me to drop off. I will be around this weekend if you are interested.

I will sure let you know i am actually going to be in Memphis for about 2 months for work hope by then the website is up so i can see complete listing of what you got and final price :)

This is really cool.

I'm actually in the SW Missouri area, but I can drive by and pick some up.

I would be interested in grass fed beef, ribeye steaks, new york steaks, and whatever roast.

I'm all about natural food.

Just let me know and we can arrange a time.

Sorry , I must have somehow missed your post. I can send to guam but the shipping is quite expensive. It would cost about 125.00 for shipping about 20 lb.
Delivery would be about three days which means I would use more dry ice and a thickly insulated container.
 Let me know if you are interested.
Paul A

just received my order, i was alittle worried u sent it usps 3 day shipping again but it came frozen probably because of the better packaging.

cant wait to try them thanks again

Hi,
 I have an oversupply of ground beef for the moment. If anyone is interested in ordering some it is 5.75USD /lb and as I need to make room for more beef, I will ship for no charge. Payment may be BTC, lightcoin,infinitecoin or fiat. I do not have paypal up yet so you will need to send a check if you want to pay with fiat. If interested in other cuts you can check on this thread or my website at www.andelinlivestock.com. I am not sure how long I will be able to ship for free but at least for the next couple of weeks. Next shipping dates are May 12 and May 19, 2014.
 Thanks

i might have to order more steaks, whens the next shipping date?

shipping June 9th and 16th.

If anyone is interested in 1/2 ( 200 lb) ; 1/4 (100 lb) of a beef I can give a significant discount. The overall cost will be 8.50/lb including shipping within the continental US. The meat is approximately 50% ground beef; 30% roasts; 20% steaks. if you order enough ahead, I can do custom cutting to your specifications. I also have ox tail, liver, soup bones, tongue if desired.

I would be limited to buying about 40 pounds or less because I would be driving back home through customs.  I would be interested in starting with some kind of small sampler, about $40 range.  I would need an invoice in case customs asks for it, and tracking on the package so that I could know when it arrives.  I am a Canadian who lives a few minutes from the border (upstate New York), and I am always looking for gourmet food products that I can buy with bitcoin. 

Hi Snowcrawl,
Thanks for your interest. I will be glad to send you a "sampler" so you can get an idea regarding the meat. What cuts are you most interested in? I can send you a steak and /or roast and some ground beef. You can check out www.andelinlivestock.com if you want to get an idea regarding what cuts we have available. If you message me regarding what cuts you would like I will give you a discounted price for a first time sample.
Thanks,
Paul A

bump for shipping day

next regular shipping date: July 7, 2014
 Earlier shipping can be by special arrangement if desired.

oh ok your earlier post said 16th my bad

I tried the tenderloin a few days ago.  It was excellent, well worth the effort.

I might have missed it in the thread, but do you have a pricelist in BTC for the meat you have available? Interested. :)

Here is a list of current prices.
You can get a significant discount if you order 1/2 ( 200 lb) 1/4 (  100 lb) or 1/8 ( 50 lb) of a beef. In these quantities it is about 50% ground beef, 30 % roasts and 10 % steaks.
 If you need a special order or cut, please let me know and I will see if I can make arrangements with my butcher. Payment can be by btc on the website: www.andelinlivestock.com or you can private message me and I can give you a BTC address to send bitcoins to. Payment may be in BTC, USD ,light coin,or next coin. I may consider taking other alternate cryptocurrency by special arrangement.
  Please let me know if you have any questions. thanks for your interest. If you look through the thread you can see reviews and photos as well.
 Paul A

Arm Roast: 3.5 lb pack:   $30.00      
Brisket: 3.5 lb pack:   $42.00      i
Chuck Roast: 3.5 lb pack:   $30.00      
Tenderloin Filet: ~8 oz steak:   $10.00      
Ground Beef: 1 lb pack:   $5.75      
KC Strip: ~10 oz steak:   $11.00      
Minute Steak: 4-pack of 4-6 oz steaks:   $10.00      
Ox Tail: 1 lb:   $6.00      
Pikes Peak Roast: 3.5 lb pack:   $30.00      
Ribeye: ~14-16 oz steak:   $15.00      
Rump Roast: 3.5 lb pack:   $30.00      
Short Ribs: 3.5 lb pack:   $40.00      
Sirloin: ~16 oz steak:   $12.00      
Stew Meat: 1 lb pack:   $7.00      
TriTip Roast: 3.5 lb pack:   $35.00      

Oh I forgot to mention shipping. shipping within the continental US is 25 USD for the first 10 lb then 1.50 USD for each additional lb over 10 lb.
 If you order 1/2, 1/4 or 1/8 of a beef ( 200, 100, or 50 lb respectively) the price is 1300.00USD, 650.00USD and 325.00USD plus shipping.

Hey, Thanks for the feed back!

You should edit your original first post of this thread and include a description of your services, available products, website link, policies, and forms of payments accepted. This will make customers more willing and able to use your services.

BTW I am a customer and I am very satisfied with Andelin's product and services. A+

 Thanks for the suggestion.

I  have been raising beef cattle in Missouri for over 20 years. I recently started offering  sale of USDA inspected Angus and Angus/Maine Anjou crossed beef directly to the consumer. These cattle are raised on the “family farm” from birth on open pasture. They are never “dry lotted”. They are never treated with growth stimulants. Antibiotics are only used judiciously and never close to the time of slaughter.
 Both the Angus and the Maine Anjou breeds offer superb quality. Crossing these two breeds yields excellent “hybrid vigor” and delicious meat on the table.
 Currently we offer different cuts of meat as detailed on our website  (andelinlivestock.com) and as noted on this thread above.
  We currently can accept BTC, litecoin, infinitecoin, and many other cryptocurrencies. You can pay directly on the website using bitcoin, or you can private message me to arrange payment with other cryptos.
  If you order beef by the side ( about 200 lbs) , by the quarter ( about 100 lbs) or by the eighth ( about 50 lbs) you may receive a considerable discount. Beef ordered in this manner is usually about 50% ground beef  30% roasts and 20% steaks.
  If you order far enough ahead, we can accommodate custom cuts of meat.
   The beef is shipped in insulated containers with dry ice. Delivery is in 2-3 days . Within the continental U.S. shipping cost is 25.00 plus 1.50/lb. Shipping dates are usually two times per month and are posted. If you need a shipment earlier than the usual time, please let me know and we will try to accommodate.
   There are several customer reviews on the thread if you want to peruse through. There are some photos as well.
  Please post or pm any questions.
  Thanks.
 

Edit your first post and include this! Otherwise people have to sift through the thread to find info they commonly need.

Really great beef, this purchase has finally got my wife to accept that Bitcoin is worth having.  ;D

is everything out for the july 7 shipping? i see nothing on the site

 Yes, still shipping July 7th. Most order inquiries have been through private messaging or the website.
  I remember you mentioned you were thinking of an order. Did I miss one from you? I can still ship next week if you want.

scheduled shipping dates: July 7th and 8th
                                    July 21

My meat packer has the ability to make beef jerky or meat sticks. Does anyone have any interest?

Yes!

I will check on prices for beef jerky and beef sticks and post it.
thanks for the feedback.

I would try some jerky. received my steaks thanks again!

I am arranging to have jerky made. I spoke with the packer who does my beef. He specializes in jerky. My next two steers are going in 5 weeks and jerky will be ready about 5 weeks after that. As per his recommendations, we are only using the " eye of the round" as it is so lean. I don't have pricing yet but it will be packaged 4 oz/package.

Next beef shipping dates:
August 4
August 11
August 18
Also: plan to have beef jerky available by early October, 2014.

My son Dan set up a Facebook page for andelin livestock if anyone is interested in checking it out.

Oh yes I know I would, just post a link and be sure to edit it into the first post in this thread.  I'm sure others would love to check it out also.  I can't recall my password right now but when I can access my account I'll be sure to subscribe.  I'd be interested in trying some jerky and beef sticks for sure, that would be a nice add on to an order.

Please link it!

https://www.facebook.com/andelinlivestock

Thank for the link.  They look beautiful and happy.  Gonna have to check the site for shipping dates or maybe they have been posted in this thread will have to check OP.  Either way I'm excited to try more of this beef!

Shipping next Monday if anyone wants to order.

good to see andelin to be a successful legit seller of beef via btc i really hope to see more economical products to be brought by bitcoin

I went to place a first time order and noticed no T-bones on the price list. Are these available? If not, I'll just grab some extra ribeyes and sirloins instead. Also, please remember to let us know when the jerky is available.

.   I don't currently have T bones but if there is interest, I certainly can get some T Bones nest time . I have two steers going in on August 13. that meat will be ready early Sept. If anyone wants T bones, or any other cut not currently offered, let me know and I will get it.
  I am getting about 50 lb of jerky made also it will be ready late Sept. It comes in 4 oz packages. Anyone interested in preordering please let me know so I can set enough aside for you.

I might be interested in the jerky since the meat might not make it to Canada because the ice almost melted reading back a while ago and that was just in the USA.
Jerky however has a bit of a longer lifespan so I'm curious if those can be shipped up North  ;)

I have read that Canada has strict laws about meat imports. I am not sure about jerky though. I will try to find out.

Thanks tried a quick search but couldn't be sure myself kept getting wishy washy answers to it so thanks for trying to find out best be safe.
If your traveling apparently its 20KG but mail shipping it from the USA is a question mark.

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/food/information-for-consumers/travellers/what-can-i-bring-into-canada-/eng/1389648337546/1389648516990
Meat and poultry products (for example, jerky, sausages, deli meats and patties, fois gras)

    up to 20 kilograms per person
    packages must have identifying marks, indicating what the product is
    proof of country of origin may be required

can you  please clear me. Is your company providing shipping service to Asia  if yes please tell me also in which country you provides service in Asia  . this is a very important thing to me to clear before order for beef meat .

It is definitely doable if you live close to the border and can cross to go pick it up.  I am close enough that I buy some of my groceries in the US.  We sometimes pick up turkeys when they go on sale.  You just need to keep your meat order under 20 Kilograms.

often, there are laws prohibiting shipping meat between countries. The distance to Asia would make shipping frozen meat to Asia very expensive. However I could ship dried jerky meat if your country's laws allow it. If you send me a message regarding where you want it shipped, I will investigate the laws regarding shipping dried jerky there.
thank you for your interest

some country in asia accept dry goods from other country with just a little amount of them however the only thing that is not allowed is to ship out some dry good from asia to somewhere i.e usa europe or middle east so it would be ok to shipped your dry goods

may i know from which country in asia you'r from?

P med the op and made a deal for a starter package, beef was shipped on the day specified and arrived today still frozen. Luckily it arrived 20 minutes before I had to leave for work. I Took It All Out AND Put It In the freezer and I'm very exited to try it out.

Overall great seller and would do buisness with again! I will refer others to him as well. Communication was simply, swift, and thorough.
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I'm throwing a bluecoin proof of steak BBQ tomorrow night.  We're using all Paul's beef (other then a few kosher steaks for kosher inclined).  It's going to be quite a bash and there will be tons of pictures of both teh party and the meat and prep, along with recipes and taste test results. 

Looking forward to making this one awesome!  If anyone is in NY drop my a line and I will let you know if we still have spots left.

Jake

next shipping date is August 18th

The BBQ was a smashing success.  Everyone had a great time, and there were several shout outs on twitter.

More to follow, just gathering as many photos from teh party as possible.

Jake

Next shipping date sept 2.

xD

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Next shipping dates Sept 2 and Sept 15,16. if anyone wants to get another order in.
 I should have jerky available by October 5th. Any interest?
Thanks!
Paul A

Is your jerky Gluten Free? (I am HIGHLY sensitive to gluten products-wheat, rye and barley and their by-products) but I really like beef-jerky and immediately thought of making some with meat purchased from yoo but if your jerky is gluten free, I'd rather just buy that. I can also offer gluten-free alternatives to some ingredients used in making jerky if you like.

Thanks!

Would probably be interested in a couple of smaller packages of beef jerky provided it was reasonably priced and I didn't get killed on shipping costs.

P.S.  Love the picture of the sunlight coming through the tree near the pond.  That's a beautiful looking place you have there and I bet the beef tastes mighty yummy to boot.

I'm interested in some jerky. Any way to make it nitrate-free? These will probably be eaten right away, so no need for preservatives. I personally don't mind the nitrate, but the women here says it's a no no :/

good question. My butcher processes the jerky for me. He does a lot of jerky but this is my first batch. I will call him this week to check on the nitrate issue.
Thanks for your interest.

My butcher processes the jerky and even though he has lots of experience, this is my first batch of beef that he is doing. I will check with him regarding the gluten issue this week. I will post an answer this next week. It looks like the jerky will be ready by mid sept.

Thanks for the thoughts on the place. It really is beautiful. Lots of deer and some wild turkeys. My parents are buried in a little cemetery on the place next to the prior settlers who were born in 1818.
 The first batch of jerky will be ready in about a week. I am looking into shipping prices . I should be posting prices in about ten days.
 Thanks for the interest.
PaulA

Do you have jerky without beef?
I am allergic to beef.

Sorry,  I only have beef jerky presently.

How about some chicken breasts without the chicken?  ;D

No problem there, now take chicken breasts and beer battered fish, just without the chicken and fish and there is a party.

Sorry for the short hijack OP.

I will PM you some links on quality non-beef jerky....what meat is your preference? I can get almost any meat in a jerky just not all are gluten free so I am unable to enjoy them.

I notice that my website "www.andelinlivestock.com " has some issues in the link to pay with bitcoin. Until I get this fixed if anyone wants to order beef using bitcoins, you can message me on this forum or send me a message by email on the website. Thanks,
Paul A

+1 on the website....very cool!

Please let me know if your butcher uses any products containing wheat,rye or barley in their jerky mix as I am still very interested in purchasing some quality beef jerky. Most soy and teriyaki sauces have wheat-gluten in their ingredients so it is difficult for me to find quality gluten free beef jerky.
Thanks

Thanks for the suggestion. I just updated as you mentioned.

 I did put an initial call in but I will call the butcher back tomorrow.
Thanks for the reminder.
Paul A

My butcher tells me that the jerky does have nitrates in it but does not have gluten. However, I know that some people are extremely sensitive to gluten and that if processing equipment has been used with other gluten containing recipes that the "gluten free" product might have minute amounts of gluten in it.Since this is my first round with the jerky I am a little nervous about this, not wanting to cause anyone a problem. Therefore, if you want to try it, perhaps a small sample first, just to make sure. The jerky will be ready next week. I will have priced posted next week.
Paul A

cooked some ribeyes from andelin yesterday night sous vide then flash browned.
most delicious dinner i've had in a while!

Hey Paul, I'd gladly pay for a small sample shipped my way...I can order some home gluten tests and determine how safe they will be for myself and others.
Thanks much!

you should add a picture of your farm or beef
so that people will trust to buy from you

I'm talking with my family and friends so we can work on a "group buy"  ;D

Anyone near Portland, Oregon is welcome to get in on the action. I'm planning at least $100 myself...perhaps more if my friends/family want any. Thanks for providing this service here!

Early in the thread are photos of the farm, reviews and photos of the meat also. You can also check www.andelinlivestock.com.
Thanks for the suggestion.
PaulA

Just received my beef jerky . Have had a few friends try it..seems quite tender. Teriyaki 4 oz packages. 10.00usd or BTC. For the first round of orders shipping is free. it does contain gluten. Previously I had posted that my butcher stated it did not have gluten. That was an error. Pm order and I will send you a BTC address. Not sure how long it will last. It is selling around already.
Thanks, paul a.

Thanks for the update Paul.  8) I might pick some up for a family member. I will get back with you asap and thanks again bro.

Could you ship to canada ?  ;D

Surely a steak would go off in a jiffy bag

sorry,I can't ship to canada due to Canadian import laws.

  :'( Its what I tought! Sniff Sniff

Good luck with your sale man! Wish you the best!

I can ship beef out Sept 22,23, 29,30 if anyone interested in ordering. Just pm me.
Thanks

I wanna know how much will it cost to ship 1lb worth to Europe, these sound good

I got my jerky this week and I am posting my opinions about the product here so everyone knows what they are getting.

The jerky comes in 4oz packets, tariyaki flavor. The is probably the most tender jerky I have ever had. With most jerkies your jaw is sore before you can get it down, this product has more of a consistency of thick fruit leather than jerky. The only complaint I have at all is the price. While it is of superior quality to local jerky supplies, it is $2-$3 more expensive per packet. I am sure most of this could be attributed to shipping cost but it is something that would effect the amount I purchase for sure.
Here is a quick breakdown.

Texture: very tender
Spice: mild
Piece size: Large but manageable because it is so tender
packaging: resalable
price: could be better but not beyond reason
total score: 9/10, as usual Andelin delivers superior products.

New to the thread, so shipping is about $25? I'm in texas and would consider about 5 pounds of ribeye, what would be the price? Thanks

yup $25 covers up to 10 lbs

How good were the steaks?

Ah ok, may have to plan on ordering more to maximize the cost effectiveness :D
So how good are the steaks for those that have tried them?

Excellent.

Sorry,
 I have not been able to ship meat across international borders due to government restrictions on beef imports.
Paul A

Hi,
 Thanks for your interest. Ribeyes are ordered as "bone in" ( labeled as club steaks) or boneless. Each one weighs about 12-16 oz and costs 15.00 USD. Shipping is 25.00 USD for the first 10 lbs. That gives a total of 100.00USD or bitcoin equivalent for five ribeyes. I often will give a discount for a first time order to attract your business. If you are interested I will put in some extra cuts with your order at no charge. How about a few Kansas City ( or sometimes called New York ) strips? Just let me know. You can also check out our website at www.andelinlivestock.com
PaulA

Amazing steaks - especially for grass fed.  I mean, I am use to good grass fed tenderloin, but usually everything else is too low fat to be anything but ground beef.  Not Paul's, it's amazing.

Been meaning to post for a while, but I had a wedding and a home move that got the best of me.  A friend just reminded me about the topic of custom ordered beef.  I've tried Andelin's ground beef and a club steak (aka bone-in ribeye)...  I'll give my verdict in a moment.

My wife and I cook steak once or twice a week, and dishes using ground beef every week or two.  We like ribeyes, NY strips, sirloins, and filets, and we try other cuts on occasion.  We generally purchase 80/20 ground and use it in a variety of dishes.  About a third of the time, we purchase organic / grass fed, higher end beef from stores like Fresh Market, or from a good quality local butcher shop.  The rest of the time, we usually get vacuum sealed steaks at Aldi, which are surprisingly good, chain-of-custody wise and quality wise, although they're very likely factory farmed.

We usually prepare our steaks simply, as we really like the flavor of good beef.  We bring the steak to room temperature, heat a skillet to high heat, melt a pat of butter, slap that steak in there for about 4 minutes, salting the uncooked top, flip it, salt and put a pat of butter on the cooked side... give it another 4 minutes, and serve.  This gives us a medium to medium rare steak, depending on thickness... we go 5 minutes/side if it was a thicker cut.  We stopped grilling after we found this preparation method; it always turns out well.  Sometimes we'll sautee some sliced baby portabellos along with it, in the skillet, and serve those on top.  We rarely marinade anymore either.

So, receiving Andelin's products was straightforward.  He provided a tracking number, and it arrived insulated and dry iced well.  We ate a high-end, grass-fed, organic steak from Fresh Market the same week that we tried Andelin's to best compare it.  We already like such steaks better than our usual Aldi steaks.

Andelin's steak was to organic store bought and good butcher shop steak, what organic store bought and butcher shop bought is to factory-farmed, low-cost, basic beef: it was another, noticeable step above in quality.  We felt the same way about the ground beef.  We found what we consider the highest quality beef we can buy here.  Now that we've settled down from house moving, etc... I'll be placing another order as soon as we have some open freezer space.

TLDR: _Very_ good beef.  Compared against best I can buy in local stores and butcher shop: noticeably superior.

Thanks for the review!

Next shipping date November 3rd.
Thanks,
Paul A

Almost not worth posting about he is so consistent, but another great deal and great shipment of steak from Paul. 

beef shipping date December 8, 2014 if anyone interested.

Do you have any jerky available for sale? How many ounces roughly are the $15 ribeye steaks?

Lastly, do you still accept BTC as payment? I don't see it listed as an option on the site.



Thanks!

the ribeye were 14-16ozs and i think he only accepts btc as payment.

When is the next shipment date? I love a good steak and based on the reviews, I might have to place an order myself to give it a shot.

just got a pm saying monday or tuesday

Oh boy I am pumped...def ordering

Do you have an approximate price of shipping? I did not see in the first few pages? I have got excited about mail order quality meat before, only to find that shipping exceeds $50 and everything arrives frozen. I know you specified dry ice shipping, but is the met frozen under the dry ice, or more refrigerated on top of it?

Are you able to cut porterhouse steaks? I'm would be interested in up to 2 porterhouses, 2 ribeye, and 2lbs of ground.

think it was $25 up to 10 lbs and $1.50 every lbs over

I think I'll give the oxtail a shot

Is there still jerky available? I don't see it on the site

I don't believe that fresh beef could be safely shipped long distances.  Also, it would only be available at certain specific times.  I don't think that the expectation would be realistic.  In this case I can confirm that my previous order was frozen packages.  It is very good nonetheless, and well worth a try.

Yes , I have teriyaki jerky 3.5 oz for BTC equivalent of 8 USD. Shipping for jerky is usually 2 USD.  For one packet . Obviously less for increased amounts.
Paul a

I have not done porterhouse cuts before. I can order from the butcher but unfortunately that requires a lead time that is usually 2 to 6 weeks. If you are sure you want some, let me know how many and I will figure a price and with my next steer get these cuts.
Paul A

I have had inquiries for selling fresh, never frozen beef before. The biggest problems have to do with storing the meat safely awaiting sale and then safely shipping it. So, as do now, I am only able to ship frozen meat.

Shipping Monday January 13

Delicious! I'll take two packs. Let me know details

u have to pm him or email him to get in touch and hes traveling right now so he might not check here often.

When you get a chance, can I get a price check on ground beef?

you can go to the site listed on the first page and order, its $6.25.

Yeah I have no idea if that's per pound, for a bag of x pounds, or what. :)

ah lol im pretty sure its a pound

Yes,
One pack of ground beef is one pound and is 6.25

   Regarding jerky. I should let any prospective customers know that Whereas  I produce all of the frozen beef myself on my own ranch, my butcher has had to purchase beef from other producers to meet the demand for jerky. This has to do with the fact that we only use the round , which is the very lean thigh muscle, when making jerky. There is a about 50 pounds of round on a 900 to 1000 pound steer and after drying during the jerky making process, this translates to about 20 pounds of jerky per animal.
    I am working on some other meat snacks that will be available in different favors. This should be available within about a month. I will post an update.
Paul A

Just got the email my steaks were shipped. Can't wait!

Steaks arrived today...packaged great and he even threw in an extra strip steak!

Thanks!

next shipping date Monday January 26

Next shipping date February 23

can't wait for warmer weather here in Ohio. i'll for sure be ordering some steaks for the grill

I have several 5 plus pound prime rib roasts if anyone interested. 60.00 USD each plus shipping

time to get some beef 

bump

You can't go wrong buying beef from this guy.

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