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there are many users on other boards who don't get merits for posts as good as or better than the ones made by the top 200.

Agree, excellent data though it still makes me look a bit like part of the jerking circle, as less than 300 of the 1023 merits I've earned came from outside the top 200 club.  Or at least I'm betting that's how Cryptohunter will view it, though I haven't finished reading this thread and don't know if he's replied yet.  And LoyceV, you'll have to excuse me for not meriting you for your excellent analysis.  I don't have much sMerit left (still haven't figured out how merit sources get their sMerits replenished, and it always seems like I'm out of them), and I don't want to contribute to the "problem".

By the way,
....is not a bad idea.  Haven't done it yet, but it's been on my mind.

Edit:
Ooops, that'll teach me to read the whole thread first before posting.  

Merit Fans of The Pharmacist
Profile     Number   Sum  Rank
Foxpup ------133------286------143
TMAN------   43------100------21
suchmoon------30------85------7
dbshck------25------47------287
LoyceV------21------21------3
Jet Cash------15------   21------14
hilariousetc------12------21------54
Winner------1------20------never received a merit so not in classement -  he only sent 3 time 20 smerit within 5 minutes to post on the goods section
o_e_l_e_o------ 12------18------14
paxmao------ 11------17------92

total sum received by 10 users = 636 merit = 61% from just 10 persons all (except 2 part of the top 200).

Merit do stay in the top 100 / 200 / 300 call how yo want.
The same way merit doesn't really cross boards. Merit earned in meta stays in meta.
I have seen some members that on spend all their meta received merit in their national board trying to help merit-deserving members to get the recognition that is very often just to hard to get.

"received by" or "received from"? Kinda hard to follow what you're trying to say there. It's not like The Pharmacist can choose who to receive merit from.

Just like cryptohunter, you forgot to post a list of those "merit-deserving members". Multiple merit sources have stated that they would be happy to send merit to those deserving users.

You also seem to be thinking that merits sent within Meta or within top 200 prevent other users from being merited. That's not how it really works. Merits are not scarce. We are sending less than 50% (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsend) of the total capacity (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources) per month.

Obviously I know that you can't chose where the merit come from.
I was just trying to show that -whether you agree or not- it looks like that merit is being circulated between the same members or at least that members prefer to send it to people that already have a title of legendary or hero (ie they relate to / same cast).

merits are just for good posts that you agree with

Cryptohunter makes a LOT of posts and a lot of them are very big long posts that took a lot of effort but are not inline with the views of those who have merit to give, so he gets few. Not that he needs them for any reason anyway.

Just like cryptohunter, you forgot to post a list of those "merit-deserving members". Multiple merit sources have stated that they would be happy to send merit to those deserving users.

theymos said that's not what it's for and we must obey theymos, right?

I considered giving merit proportional to activity, but I decided not to because doing so would probably give far more undeserved merit than deserved merit in total. But undoubtedly some people got screwed by this, and if they have decent posts, by all means, give them the 250 or 500 merit that they need to rank-up.

If people are making good posts but are still struggling to get merit, then that's a problem with the merit system

If the merit system completely fails and I can't think of anything else to replace it, then my next step will probably be to completely remove all ways for forum users to make money from posting (eg. removing signatures entirely).

I'll see how things are in a month or two and think about it. Basically, the "ideal new user" should be able to easily and without any particular "merit farming" be able to far exceed the merit requirements; for them, activity should be the limiting factor. If this is not achievable, then I absolutely will make tweaks until that goal is reached. But it's too early to say at this point.

Merits are not scarce.

Sources shouldn't be pressured into giving more than they think is right. If Theymos wants more, then he needs more sources.
Some people feel that way. I'm in the middle and can feel for both sides.

What examples can you show of well written posts that you profoundly disagreed with, and you gave merits to?

I have not seen this done once.

You sources are conservative with your merits, giving just enough that it is working while making high rank much harder to achieve and more elite. You are just doing what you think is right.
You aren't giving 10 merits to posts you pick instead of 1 because you must thing that is too many.. You think 1 is enough and they should be more scarce than giving out 10s all the time. You are keeping high rank elite. Whatever..
You 2 (first 2) deserve a higher rank than the old legendary, so maybe it should be more elite.

Sources shouldn't be pressured into giving more than they think is right. If Theymos wants more, then he needs more sources.
Some people feel that way. I'm in the middle and can feel for both sides.

I still haven't figured out how the source merits get replenished.

Foxpup giving me all those merits (I still can't figure out why he's given me so many),

I don't know what his problem is.

So what's the real problem here? I hope this can serve as the main collection of all those grievances instead of getting spread out across multiple merit topics as cryptohunter has been doing lately.

Look at the first 2 posters in this thread. Over 1k merits each wasted if you are of the mindset that merits are for ranking up.  

That's it, I've had enough of this bullshit. I defy you to find a single post of yours that I have merited that didn't deserve to be. I suspect what you really mean is, you can't figure out why nobody else is giving you so many merits, and I believe it's because you're Legendary and Legendaries (in other people's minds) don't deserve merits because they can't rank up. Of course, if people did give more merit to Legendaries, cryptohunter would be even more mad, but as it is, he just gets to be mad at me. Specifically me; he keeps talking about me even after I've stopped responding to his nonsense. I don't know what his problem is.

Just ask tp out on a date and get it over.

I don't think it'd work out. I'm already in a three-way with Moloch (58% of his merit was sent by me alone) and gmaxwell (37%), and like most foxes I only have so many holes available. :-\

So if we do a little bit of maths for @The pharmacist 
total sum received from 10 users = 636 merit = 61% from just 10 persons all (except 2 are part of the top 200).
If we look at the top 100 (remove foxpup, dbshck, Winner)
He has received 283 merit from the Top100 it is 28% of his merits from just 6 persons.
If you take the top 150, then it is 569 merit received (56% of all his merit) from just 8 persons, all in the elite.

     9. 1023 Merit received by The Pharmacist (#487418) from 171 unique users in 590 transactions

    31. 736 Merit sent by The Pharmacist (#487418) to 294 unique users in 579 transactions

Merits do stay in the top 100 / 200 / 300 call how you want.

Look at the first 2 posters in this thread. Over 1k merits each wasted if you are of the mindset that merits are for ranking up.

You're now a merit source. Thanks for helping out!

Note that there is a bug with source merit which will have the effect of replenishing your source less than the expected amount. If you actually run out due to this, let me know and I'll just increase your source amount. (Also, I will eventually fix this...)

Take me for example.
I am going to have 1030 activity for legendary soon but nowhere near enough merits even though I am a damn good poster.
Why? Because I don't make thousands of posts like some people do

My views are also not completely in line with those mostly in control and I like to bust balls when people get too authoritarian and/or big egos.

I speak out more than I should if I was just trying to achieve whatever high rank/respect/trust/power.  (like this)

I can put a lot of effort into a post and get no merits, then I say something short, sweet, and funny and get a bunch.

Cryptohunter makes a LOT of posts and a lot of them are very big long posts that took a lot of effort but are not inline with the views of those who have merit to give

we must obey theymos, right?

Cryptohunter's problem seems to be mainly the attempt to bend facts to fit a narrative. I think there would be merits raining on her if the original assertion about good posters hiding on altcoin boards turned out to be true.

However merit sources can create a topic in Meta and offer to forum users, who believe that their post deserves a merit but was deprived of attention, to provide links to their texts with a small explanation comments.

You sources are conservative with your merits, giving just enough that it is working while making high rank much harder to achieve and more elite. You are just doing what you think is right.
You aren't giving 10 merits to posts you pick instead of 1 because you must thing that is too many.. You think 1 is enough and they should be more scarce than giving out 10s all the time. You are keeping high rank elite. Whatever..
You 2 (first 2) deserve a higher rank than the old legendary, and some deserve higher than you, so maybe it should be more elite.

I think I'd do a better job as a merit source if I got more source merits

Cryptohunter makes a LOT of posts and a lot of them are very big long posts that took a lot of effort but are not inline with the views of those who have merit to give, so he gets few. Not that he needs them for any reason anyway.

I don't think it'd work out. I'm already in a three-way with Moloch (58% of his merit was sent by me alone) and gmaxwell (37%), and like most foxes I only have so many holes available. :-\

The complaint stems from jealousy and a lack of own constructive opinions worth "meriting". This is the classic "everyone else is to blame except me" nonsense. Do people not have something better to do than to create "useful statistics" which only result in TV-like drama regarding who got a lot of useless points from who? ::)

A lot of big posts full of garbage and horrible opinions. A TMAN style "insert random swearing" response to a nonsensical thread is in most cases more worthy of merit.

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I need to look up who the top givers in these circles are. I'll only read their posts from now on (placing everyone else I see on ignore). Since I see nothing else, meriting their objectively constructive posts is proper use of the merit system. Am I doing this right?

I'm certain that you have a dinner invite planned for me somewhere down the road. Why else would you be showering me with all these merits? Quite classy I must say.

It just is what it is. If I was just out to get merits I'd make tons and tons of posts that most sources would agree with, but I don't because I don't care that much to not just chill and be me.

So remain silent snake tongue. Else I..

Cryptohunter IMO is just a cranky contrarian who thinks everyone's brain should function with the logic of a computer, and yet he has this obvious bleeding-heart liberal mentality which manifests itself in him constantly thinking there's some underdog situation on bitcointalk whereby a cabal of senior members are keeping the lower ranks down, like slaves on a 19th century Louisiana plantation.  I just don't see it that way, and I've put him on ignore.  I'm just tired of reading his posts, which are probably made with good intentions but are consistently way off the mark.

That is, a good merit source, in my opinion, should merit a post even if he don't agree with, acknowledging the effort from users.

Its true colors quickly show themselves. ::)

Don't let someone push you aside with pseudo-logic. If only it remotely resembled actual logic, we wouldn't even get to this thread to begin with.

So if we do a little bit of maths for @The pharmacist  
total sum received from 10 users = 636 merit = 61% from just 10 persons all (except 2 are part of the top 200).
If we look at the top 100 (remove foxpup, dbshck, Winner)
He has received 283 merit from the Top100 it is 28% of his merits from just 6 persons.
If you take the top 150, then it is 569 merit received (56% of all his merit) from just 8 persons, all in the elite.



I had a look to other names in the top 50 merit receiver, but without a bot it is time consuming and i am at work  ;D
@Lauda = 362 merit received ( 53%) from 10 persons.  https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Lauda
@Suchmoon = 527 merit received (52%) from 10 persons   https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=suchmoon
@Jet cash : 479 merit received (56%) from 10 persons  (6 of them are in the top100 - merit by top100 = 295 = 35% )

If we take my example: I'm not one of the top 200 merit recipients, yet I've only received 22 of my 133 merits from outside the Top 200 Merit Recipients.  That's only 16% of my total.  I'm new around here, and certainly wouldn't consider myself as a member of the "Circle Jerk."
  

In my opinion, Cryptohunter's issue with legendary members getting banned is the opposite side of the effort to reduce spam.  The merit system is working in reducing spam, but there are still many hero and legendary spammers around.  They escaped the merit system simply by being here a year or two before it's implementation, and it's only for that reason that they were awarded their rank.  To keep their rank, they merely need to follow the rules.

It seems fairly clear to me that merit is awarded to good posts 99.99% of the time.

~ I estimate a 2 digit percentage of this to be Merit abuse. But those came from the 600k sMerit airdrop. If you find a Merit source making very bad choices (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050263.msg47050953#msg47050953), he may be removed as a source once reported.

I understand and almost agree with @Cryptohunter's feeling.

But usually when you are in a privileged position you don't really notice what others might.

if i quote the pharmacist :


he seams happy to see that 30% of his merit doesn't come from the top 300

Well, i see it this way :

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=The%20Pharmacist


So if we do a little bit of maths for @The pharmacist  
total sum received from 10 users = 636 merit = 61% from just 10 persons all (except 2 are part of the top 200).
If we look at the top 100 (remove foxpup, dbshck, Winner)
He has received 283 merit from the Top100 it is 28% of his merits from just 6 persons.
If you take the top 150, then it is 569 merit received (56% of all his merit) from just 8 persons, all in the elite.



I had a look to other names in the top 50 merit receiver, but without a bot it is time consuming and i am at work  ;D
@Lauda = 362 merit received ( 53%) from 10 persons.  https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Lauda
@Suchmoon = 527 merit received (52%) from 10 persons   https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=suchmoon
@Jet cash : 479 merit received (56%) from 10 persons  (6 of them are in the top100 - merit by top100 = 295 = 35% ) https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Jet%20Cash


I guess CryptoHunter is showing a mixed feeling of jalousie and also a will to get rid of the Merit-archy (word invented, derived from patriarchy but with the merit root).  Let's be honest, everybody is a little bit racist, has a preference to the charity they give, only hire people that like, only make friends with people they relate, would be reticent to help a foreigner but quite keen to help a fellow citizen. Would rater help a hot mom with a stroller than an old homeless.

Merits do stay in the top 100 / 200 / 300 call how you want.
The same way merit doesn't really cross boards. Merit earned in meta stays in meta.
I have seen some members that on spend all their meta received merit in their national board trying to help merit-deserving members to get the recognition that is very often just to hard to get.


post edited after suchmoon spotted a few typos. Edits are in italic

TP is one of your ass lickers supporting bullshit like you keeping 3000bch apparently ... I cant take his moral compass seriously being a former scam lover of dash either. Even if is not true ( i have not looked into it) the fact that he thinks it is fine if it did happen even though the investors did not come off well over all of this is an example of his reasoning.

I'm not a Dash lover by any means, though I've stated in the past that it's one of the coins I've liked.  I don't own any and have never done anything to seriously hype it, nor have I ever owned more than about 12 Dash at any given time.  I've always said I liked it because of the low transaction fees and quick confirmation times and its somewhat bad-boy reputation as being originally intended for use on the dark markets (which I've never had a part of).  I've always stated that I'm aware of its shady beginnings, the instamining and all of that.

As far as that situation with the 3000 BCH, I did pose a question in the thread about what happens in situations when a deal is underway and then a fork happens, i.e., who keeps the forked coins.  I can also tell you that I don't completely understand what that whole situation was about, much less what Lauda's role in it really was.  I often find myself reading claims on bitcointalk and not knowing all of the background or who's telling the truth, since there are so many scammers and liars here.  

I'm not trying to use ignorance as an excuse in the case you're referring to--I'm genuinely ignorant of what that deal was about, but I knew enough to question whether there was something arranged between the parties involved beforehand about the forked coins.  If you've got an investigation you can bring forth about Lauda, why don't you just do it instead of talking about it.  Then I'd like to hear the honest opinions from a variety of senior and/or trusted members.  

I don't appreciate being called an ass licker of Lauda.  I just happen to be loyal to people who've supported me, but not to the point of endorsing scamming behavior, and if that's what happened in that escrow deal then I don't condone that (but I'll need proof that's dumbed-down enough for me to follow)--but I'll always respect Lauda's scam- and spam-busting activities and general attitude.  But don't think for a minute that I'm in anyone's pocket, because I'm not.

I am not sure that you are a willing participant in the circle or just fox pup wants to take you out on a date.

suchmoons assumptions and logical fails that he makes time and time again.

Stop worrying so much about it all and creating more and more threads about it even though I have said I consider the case closed several times. Then telling me I am continuing to proliferate threads about this topic. Typical example of suchmoon madness.

I have demonstrated with suchmoons assistance they are meaningless now

so let's discuss some other interesting topics

Even suchmoon has now confirmed without definition of a good post or good poster then the score is meaningless.

There is no incorrect way to look at the 0.13% lose 80% or greater of their merits if you simply remove the opinions of the same 0.13% the fact or not they are merit sources with most to give  then that is an result of the system and how it is set up and not an excuse to claim that still representing better posts get more merit than less good posts. However, as I have said there is no issue so long as you do not make silly claims about what the numbers mean.

That is simply numbers... that are not bending fact, not looking at the numbers upside down.

~ personal attack

~ personal attack

So a thorough investigation of your prior history could be put under scrutiny to ensure I have not got you all wrong

~ personal attack

~ personal attack

~ personal attack

~ personal attack

Quickseller's post about Kavanaugh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4659296.msg46319344#msg46319344) for example. A few other posts in P&S as well, just can't find links quickly.

Try sarcasm, that's the real money Merit maker :D

User eddie13 - (0.4973 Merit per new post)

  181. eddie13 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=580327) earned 191 50 Merit from outside the Top 200 Merit Receivers

   181. eddie13 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=580327) earned 191 27 Merit from outside the Top 500 Merit Receivers

If you're not a Merit source yet, I think you should apply!

You are right. I was too narrow in the way I said it because it does happen on occasion but I still believe it is not the norm.
I also need to work on not saying "you" so much in my posts or addressing a certain other poster like that because I certainly don't mean/want to put a specific person on the spot like that, usually..

I should have said something more like - "How many merited posts do you all see merited for quality of writing and effort despite the sender profoundly disagreeing with the message of the post they merited?"

I think it is natural for us to use merit as a "+1", or a "Yeah, what he said." to show our support for a well placed message that we want to back up as an endorsement.
Or even something funny but low effort, just whatever we enjoy.

My what now?


You've been spamming quite a few merit threads with your tenuous claims so this thread is an attempt to keep it all in one place. I'm sure you'll appreciate that and refrain from off-topic posts elsewhere.


Sorry, what exactly did I assist you with?


That's what this thread is for so it's really up to you.


Really? Where did I do that?


No, it's your personal opinion. The numbers don't say why those merits are sent that way. You're simply setting up a straw man argument (e.g. 150k users are eligible for merit) and then topping it up with a false dilemma (e.g. if someone is saying that 0.13% deserve those merits then they're saying that 99.87% can't make better posts). That's not how it actually works. Most users are shitposters, and yes most Legendaries are too - I know you're gonna like this one - so most of those 150k will never receive a single merit, which is how the merit system is supposed to work.

25k users have received merit. Some received more than others, which is inevitable. But simply taking out merit sources or certain boards isn't gonna prove unfairness even if it exists. You can still believe it if you want. It's just that the numbers you keep throwing around don't mean that.




Let me guess. You're gonna enroll someone else to do the investigation?





I'm getting a feeling that you have personal problems with some (or many) of the top 200 merit receivers, or with people who disagree with you in general, and you're trying to find a way make them look inferior in some way. Which is fair game I guess. As long as you can keep it in this thread and not all over the place (hint: nobody is stalking you even if they happen to post in the same threads as you do).

LOL please re read out prior conversations and find all of those answers for yourself.

If you are unable to then get assistance from anyone else who can read and recall what they have read after 5 mins.

If they are not free to assist you then if you state that I will not find any grounding for those statements one by one and list them as above I will come and assist you.

I don't really have any personal issues with ANY person on this board except scammers/scam enablers/scam protectors.

I will post where I like and when I like so long as I please to do so. You are a spammer and have continuously wanted the last (incorrect) word on everything forcing the conversation to continue as you are doing now.

Loyce and you have no made 2 threads to continue this discussion on this specific topic after I had already said I am ready to move on and happy with the presentation that has been made.

Can you list also these personal attacks on yourself that I have made that have no grounding also I am interested in them.

No idea what this all means but please do assist. I need your help very much. Anything that keeps you from trolling the rest of the forum is welcome here.

I don't know about LoyceV but i made this thread for you to air your grievances, whatever those might be. If there aren't any - great. IDGAF whose word is last but then again, you think people posting in the same thread are stalking you.

Dude... your attack is under my avatar and then you attacked me for putting it under my avatar :)

I appreciate the effort you've put into this post, and the math is quite telling.  But, like nearly all statistics they only tell part of the story.

If we take my example: I'm not one of the top 200 merit recipients, yet I've only received 22 of my 133 merits from outside the Top 200 Merit Recipients.  That's only 16% of my total.  I'm new around here, and certainly wouldn't consider myself as a member of the "Circle Jerk."

Of the members you referenced as examples, (to the best of my knowledge) three of them are very likely merit sources.  They can afford to be generous with their sMerit.  I myself, have never given more than a single merit to any post, and yet I've never received fewer than 4 from suchmoon.  And frequently receive a minimum of 2 from the Top 200.

It seems fairly clear to me that merit is awarded to good posts 99.99% of the time.  Of course "good posts" are subjective, and that's why we have over 100 merit sources on the forum, so that subjectivity is spread around.  

In my opinion, Cryptohunter's issue with legendary members getting banned is the opposite side of the effort to reduce spam.  The merit system is working in reducing spam, but there are still many hero and legendary spammers around.  They escaped the merit system simply by being here a year or two before it's implementation, and it's only for that reason that they were awarded their rank.  To keep their rank, they merely need to follow the rules.

~snip~
Again: you're looking at this the wrong way. Instead of looking where the Merit came from, you should look at the post it was sent to. Obviously there's some abuse, but I'm pretty sure most of the Top Receivers received it for legit good posts. Why would it matter who gave it, if the post deserves it?
I've merited your post, not because I agree, but because it's worth reading and you're not a spammer.
~snip~

LOL i see. You mean I described how you actually are and how you actually act. I can see why that may seem like and attack ...it is called reality.

Then I told you that you should not be using my prior art and descriptive flair and passing it off as your own original work. Put it in " " or that could be plagiarism. I was obviously joking since about that part since I am not the sort of gimp who would see a legend banned for one single incidence of this unless it was financially motivated and a repeated offence.

Now  back to grassing legends up for incidents that took place 4 years ago and feeling good about yourself. Don't allow me to keep making fun of you I feel bad about if afterwards and have to lash myself each night. I would feel better for you if you just stayed clear of me unless you have really thought through your entire point before throwing word salad at me. Then denying it or pretending you do not know what I am referring too.

Now no need to continue on about all of this because I am happy to let it drop for now. Any post of yours about this merit hoarding and cycling is willingly and knowingly forcing the conversation to continue so don;t then complain I am going on about it. That is just another logic fail of yours that you can not realise.

Stop spamming your sig and stalking me and my posts. Using them as an excuse to spam your sig is annoying.

Can't wait for suchmoon and malborozo to have theirs done too....

Describing disturbing fantasies of his own and pretending to quote me when I never said that at all.

stalking down my every thread

I will post where I like and when I like

the top 0.13% not only benefit from their own cycling of merit ... they also gain merit from merit seeking ass kissers who hang out in meta and give them some back.

I will merit whom I please

You do realize that one can click on the quote and go to the post where you actually said that?

@oieoie

Point me there

I accidentally mistype my forum nick on one strange unknown search engine which I can't remember which one it was and I was pointed to this post:
...so thank you for inviting me to this valuable and sensible discussion which moved from "cryptohunter's problem with the top 200 merit receivers" to "tag Lauda!" and "Lauda stuck it in TP's ass "

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This is what you should do. Copy this post and send it directly to theymos because lost of shit is going on at the moment:
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=theymos
https://i.imgur.com/0rzIOMo.png

Don't forget to tell him to remove merits he has sent me because it is wrong to receive merits from top 200 merit receivers.

A truly impressive misspelling of a word that only has 3 letters.

@craptobanter

In the other thread you said you were done with this topic and wanted to move on and to discuss something new. Once again, I would urge you to take your own advice.

You are double posting

I feel like we'll soon need a bingo for stuff cryptohunter projects onto others.

1. can you be banned for repeated posting of your own posts in different threads?

Actually now i review your video why are you highlighting that part where it says

looking foward to such and marlboroz having theirs done?

What specifically is the reason to highlight that line in particular?

Explain the video step by step... what are you trying to demonstrate?

Depends on the content of those posts. But you can surely get banned if you make consecutive posts in the same thread, like you just did. And you know that because recently you complained (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086175.0) about someone else doing it and that person got a temp ban so it's quite puzzling why you're deliberately breaking the rules now.


I'm showing that the actual quotes (ones within quote tags) lead to actual things you said.

That was before I realized you misinterpreted the double quotation marks, not the quote tags, since you never said which part you considered misquoted.

I'd just like to let it be known that at no time has anything been inserted into any of my orifices by any member of bitcointalk.  Specifically, I have never been penetrated by Lauda as I believe I read somewhere in this thread.  Never even had any decent offers, and I'm a pretty high-class hoe in great demand, too.

I didn't figure cryptohunter would get negged for all of his blabbering as of late, but I probably should have expected it.  Same thing happened to mixan a while back when he went off the deep end and started taking the forum hostage with his raving lunacy.  There comes a point where if you spout enough nonsense and attack too many people, it's not going to be taken kindly to anymore.  I'm a bit puzzled as to why cryptohunter suddenly appeared on the Meta/Reputation scene and started making such a fuss about all of these things.  His account is much older than mine, and even I've been here long enough to know how abrasive the culture is around here--and even aside from that, he ought to know this isn't a battle he's likely to win.  I haven't even read many posts indicating that there are any members in his corner on all of this stuff about merits and trust abuse and so forth.  

I think marlboroza's feedback is somewhat harsh given his DT status, but I know where he's coming from.  Lauda has a genuine beef with cryptohunter, so I can understand that.  Either way, cryptohunter thinks everything he's writing is completely logical but that isn't true.  It's not a big stretch for someone to say that it would be hard to trust someone who consistently demonstrates that he can't think straight.  

In any case, red trust is not a means to silence anyone--giving someone a ban is.  And since cryptohunter states that he doesn't trade here, what's the problem?

Prove any of your points that anything I have said is raving lunacy.

I will tell you exactly why I came here because you pulled a DT abuse on someone and I will bring it here now for everyone else to examine in light of the fact you based in on your false assumption and even needed others of DT who are not abusers to rectify the damage you tried to pull on this person.

There is no point in arguing with you or trying to prove anything you've said is false, because that's a conversation that will last forever.  You will rebut every point with something else that has to be debunked, ad infinitum.

Rambotnic, right?  Go right ahead and bring it here now, just don't expect me to argue any further about it.  Sometimes DT members disagree with each other and leave counter feedback.  That's something I might have done with marlboroza's trust he left for you, but there's no way in satan's kingdom I'm leaving you a positive trust.

you are pushing for this red trust to stick.

Actually it's quite the opposite - I was trying to figure out if the misunderstanding about the quotes can be reconciled. However your incessant lying is getting in the way. It's between you and marlboroza. Good luck.

LOL you refuse to back up your false claims???

Actually, I did a few posts back when I tried to nicely explain to you that I'm not some die-hard Dash supporter, nor did I support Lauda in that scam accusation against him/her.  I explained that I questioned the forked coins issue and also admitted that I don't fully understand what the whole transaction was about, who was involved, and what all the details are.  That was a very contentious thread with lots of people on both sides, and I decided to just stay out of it.  

Those are just two examples of untruths you've told, and I do believe other members have been pointing out other ones as this and the other threads you're involved with progress.  You're not going to agree with any of our reasoning, so it's futile.  

In addition, I've written maybe a handful of posts saying I liked Dash--but I've also said the same thing about doge, and for the same reasons, i.e., low fees and quick confirmations.  I never tried to pump either coin up for financial gain and have never had more than a few hundred bucks' worth of either in my lifetime.  You also criticized Lauda for ceasing to support Dash?  You implied that Lauda did this as a pump & dump scheme.  I don't recall this, and it's not something you've provided proof for either.

I want you to prove I am wrong about all the merit stuff and produce your evidence ... not some junk about yourself that you can excuse and backpeddle on.

See, this is where the "it will never end" part comes into play.  Now you want me to refute whatever it is you wrote about the merit system (which I haven't been following, since I don't really care if most of my merits come from just a few members).  That's another debate I just don't have any interest in.  I only care who I give merits to, and I'm trying to disperse them as far and wide as I can.  

And yeah, I do think it's a pity that Lauda was removed from DT.  But you claimed I supported Lauda in the scam accusation thread specifically and that is not true.  You're constantly shifting goal posts and are now saying I'm a liar about denying that I support Lauda in general.  This is the lunacy I'm referring to.

No point in continuing this for me, so I am d-o-n-e.

Please stop pretending you are just accidentally browsing random search engines and not stalking down my every thread. I would never invite you to spam your sig whilst pretending to make worthwhile comment.

You really go searching for your own username in search engines with the exact same mispelling as mine.... sounds like a usual excuses I hear in meta.

Are you seriously telling me he was aiming quoting something you didnt go near mentioning? ... get real. Nobody could accept that explanation because you never said anything like that.

This is diabolical and worse that 300lbs of DT abuse

So people can get red trust for saying lemon without it being an abuse of the trust system?

I want him to run me through his entire though process during that exchange starting with me saying marlboroza is misquoting me.

pretending to quote me when I never said that at all.

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Really?

This was clearly sarcasm.


The use of the quotation marks was clearly "scare quotes" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes), and not as a direct quote of something anybody said.


This was clearly a joke.


This was clearly a metaphor.


I think part of the problem here is that cryptohunter, being (I presume) a non-native English speaker, is literally taking everything, well, literally. When you re-read everything with this mindset, it is easier to see how this misunderstanding arose and escalated. Perhaps with this in mind, we can all come to an agreeable solution. Having said that cryptohunter, you are not helping yourself by continuing to rage at people who are trying to help you (e.g. suchmoon and The Pharmacist).

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1 - marlboroza made a post here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086297.40) containing two direct quotes from you, as well as a couple of "scare quotes" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes).

2 - You then stated he was:
3 - Everyone assumed you were talking about the actual quotes, and so suchmoon made a video showing that you click on the quotes and it will bring you directly to the posts where you said the quoted text.

4 - A couple of posts later, you elaborated that it was the "scare quotes" you were objecting to, which no one ever claimed were said by you (or anybody else for that matter).

5 - The confusion was cleared up.

Cryptohunter, how come you're asking several people to back up their claims with evidence, while you don't do that for the claims you make?

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I'm tempted to list the Top200 Merit Receivers minus their Top10 Merit Fans. I'm curious to see what comes out, especially considering theymos' recommendation to use up all source Merits on good posts.

What is going on? I thought this was supposed to be about the top 200 merit receivers, not a cesspool of character attacks.

marboroza is clearly misquoting me as saying " lauda ass banged the pharmacist"

...so thank you for inviting me to this valuable and sensible discussion which moved from "cryptohunter's problem with the top 200 merit receivers" to "tag Lauda!" and "Lauda stuck it in TP's ass "

Bring the lying proof. NOW. Where are these lies????

Suchmoon come here and explain this at once. I want to hear your entire thought process and every reply to every single thing you quoted and specifically replied to those quotes..

Describing disturbing fantasies of his own and pretending to quote me when I never said that at all.

You do realize that one can click on the quote and go to the post where you actually said that?

He miss quoted me in "" also on purpose and you said you could present where I said it ... bring your evidence of accusation or delete your lie  also.

You seem to be confused about the double quotes. If that's the case, retract your statement and let marlboroza know. The text in double quotes is not attributed to you in any plausible way that I can see.

I believe what you're on about is contained in the following:

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To believe that this is an intentionally-contrived misquote is wrong. This is a synopsis of the flow of conversation in the thread dialogue. I see no attack here.

Are you being serious such moon did you believe this ??

So because you do not clarify to which quote i am referring to even after my disturbing fantasies clear indication you decide to assume I am lying or making false accusation? based on your incorrect assumption ? and therefore I get RED TRUST??

The corroborating evidence below the final post just before red trust is clearly still anger over this merit business.

Either malboroza gives out red trust usually without clarifying or discussing what someone means??? or he just wanted excuse to give me red trust for this.

Yes.

That's why I suggested immediately after I realized the issue with double quotation marks that you retract your ambiguous statement.

It's very difficult to clarify anything with you since you go on multi-page rants where one sentence would suffice. You mistakenly assumed the text between double quotation marks is attributed to you. Can we agree on that?

Why would i retract an ambiguous statement I would simply clarify my statement even more clearly than I though it needed for any sensible person to understand what it is I am refering to.

Describing disturbing fantasies of his own and pretending to quote me when I never said that at all.

Because the statement is incorrect if marlboroza wasn't pretending to quote you.

Which one of you miscreants did this

I was wondering why cryptohunter would be attacking DT and quality posters, while at the same time trying to get copy/pasters unbanned.

Which one of you miscreants did this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg48790244#msg48790244

This drama just keeps getting better.

1. anyone wants to appeal after copy and paste of serious nature found in their posts (not film quotes for humour, memes, news posted on correct project)
Needs to pay 0.5 BTC fine and have a 6months - 1yr month sig ban automatically..

I guess that explains why he opened this topic:     
Let us devise a Sensible solution to Copy and Paste situation.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5087667.0) just 6 hours after ScumBuster busted him!

But he didn't get banned, unlike the ones reported one post lower (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg48791285#msg48791285). I can only speculate why.

You could use that argument to quite reasonably stretch to  I am the person who started the movement that prevented bitcoin in its history being removed from the top position - many people have said if this had never blown up and the entire community had not been split over the dash captive instamine scam - which lauda and pharmacist can be demonstrated to have supported  then dash would have got beyond position 2.

The one you present is weak as your minds. The link to the fucking bullshit you present is contained at the bottom of the post you dumb fucks.

Click the links one by one and you will be presented with fact I am not the original source

I will now crush you all in meta for this you scumbags.

The next thread coming is of your own doing. You have 12 hours to login to your puppet account retract that report and beg me to forgive you all else I will insist Theymos himself investigates the facts of the thread I present and boot you jackals out of here for good.

You all just made a very big mistake.
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Get ready to be fried alive jackals. Come to meta when you are ready.
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you are a gang of jackals that has been waiting for a Lion to destroy and reduce you to the snivelling little dregs of this board you are.
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I have crushed you in public like ants.
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Bring me one just one instance where you have defeated me since I have found out about this bunch of bullies you are and started to highlight how gross this entire situation is turning.
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I will now crush you all in meta for this you scumbags.

You are of negative net worth here on the basis of pushing your own agendas and trying to suppress and bully people that do not fit in with them.

First thing that comes to mind is a quote from one of the characters (Francis Dolarhyde) in the novel Red Dragon (pp. 168) by Thomas Harris right before he bites the lips off a reporter and sets him on fire and then sends him strapped to a wheelchair down a hill (great novel, BTW):

    "You said that I, who see more than you, am insane.  I, who pushed the world so much further than you, am insane.  I have dared more than you.  I have pressed my unique seal so much deeper in the earth, where it will last longer than your dust.  Your life to mine is a slug track on stone.  A thin silver mucus track in and out of the letters on my monument.  I am the Dragon and you call me insane?  My movements are followed and recorded as avidly as those of a mighty guest star.  Do you know about the guest star in 1054?  Of course not.  Your readers follow you like a child follows a slug track with his finger, and in the same tired loops of reason.  Back to your shallow skull and potato face as a slug follows his own slime back home.
    "Before Me you are a slug in the sun.  You are privy to a great Becoming and you recognize nothing.  You are an ant in the afterbirth.
    "It is in your nature to do one thing correctly:  before Me you rightly tremble.  Fear is not what you owe Me, Lounds, you and the other pismires.  You owe Me awe."
_______________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________

This is all barking and no biting by cryptohunter, just braggadocio and bluster.  I'll see you in Meta for whatever show you're going to put on.

... aaaaand she's returned to form.


On behalf of all Bitcoin bagholders I sincerely thank you for saving it. I never knew it was under such a huge threat.




Ok so if you're not guilty as alleged why do you need the report to be removed?

I have proven it is groundless you dumb asshole. However I will not have my name on a scam thread when it is incorrect.
Now login and remove it.

YOur logic is again broken since you say hillarious has seen it. Now log in and get it done.

Yeah dash never reached number 2 spot ....you know nothing because you hide in here grassing people up. Not for much longer you're done.

I don't think you've proven anything. The point is you've argued long enough for a transparent public leniency process for plagiarizers but now you're trying to sweep it under the rug. Why is that?

If you're implying I posted that report - you're dumber than I thought, and that's saying a lot. I have no reason to do anything under an alt, let alone something I do 100s of times a day.

Your personal thread is coming moron.

Sweep what ???did you read my post you fool.

The link to the information I used on all of those posts is there contained in the posts..... how am I claiming it as my own if the link to the information i am posting is contained in the post ...they are the references

Even if they were not you think the person who discovered dash scam and had 100's of people helping him prove it was a captive instamine scam will get banned for quoting a person  that supported me more than nearly any other . Fuck off you dillusional fool.

YOU HAD EVERY REASON TO USE A PUPPET ACCOUNT MORON BECAUSE YOU ARE PART OF THE GANG TRYING TO SILENCE ME AND PUSH RED TRUST ON ME 2 DAYS AGO YOU COWARDLY SCUM... SO NOW IT WOULD LOOK BAD IF PART OF THE SAME GANG TRIED TO GET ME BANNED FOR BRINGING LIGHT ON THE FACT YOU ARE ALL PART OF A GANG COLLUDING TO SHUT PEOPLE UP

I AM FULLY ON TO YOU NOW AND I WILL PRESENT REASONABLE CREDIBLE AND CORROBORATING EVIDENCE FOR THIS AND YES IT DOES LOOK BAD FOR YOU.  EVEN HOW "YOU" HAPPENED TO BE THE ONE TO BE STRAIGHT THERE AFTER IT POPPED ON MY THREAD.

Where is your list of accomplishments again? fucking whack a mole grassing bullying little imbecile.

Nothing would be any different here if you had never joined nor the rest of this colluding gang of merit hoarding shit stains. None of you have done anything of real consequence ever.

I mean any one of you bring 1 fucking thing you have done here that made a big difference and show me how things would have been any different if you had never joined. I challenge you to do it NOW.

I can't wait!  Can you give me an estimate on how long it's going to be before you create that thread?

I can't wait!  Can you give me an estimate on how long it's going to be before you create that thread?  I gots ants in my pants, so don't take your sweet ass time, k?  I'm just itching to see what you think I've done wrong and want to hear how bad the community thinks I am, too.  Maybe I'll get banned!!

By the way, you keep issuing challenges here, but if you expect people to bend to your will and your requests and your ranting lunacy, you're going to be sorely disappointed--but I'm sure you'll use it as more proof of your superiority and of the conspiracy.  So just sayin'. 

And FYI, last I checked the only person who's left you a neg recently is Lauda, so your rant about all of this red trust you're being given doesn't make a lick of sense.

I ask again bring any accomplishments of yours proving you have been net positive here.

There is zero indication that the contents of your post is not authored by you. The links don't even point to specific posts where you copied the info from.

I'm not saying you must be banned for this. Moderators can choose to show you some leniency and that's fine. But let's not pretend that you quoted and attributed the texts properly. You didn't.


I'm firing up my Redenbacher. Don't make me wait.


Not everyone is as narcissistic as you.

Yeah cos every fucking person trying to pass work as his own puts a link in that post that if you click it you come to the place I got it. NOW get lost  you coward scum bag even trying to back peddle. I mean look at the red trust thread.. even that fucking scum did not appologise to me for fucking presenting a full lie there to try and make me look worse. He fucked his time line up and lied. Not even said sorry about it where as you fucking cowards give me red trust by using these scare quotes near real quotes marks with my real quotes in. I get red trust for this and you fuckers lie about me and make puppet accounts to try and get me banned. I am going to fucking crush you when I have finished compiling my thread about you all. I want every one of you taken off DT and even better temp banned.. I am not sure wether to push for full ban because that makes me look as bad you cowards like I am scared to face you even though I love it.

I will consider what I state i think should be done about such devious, cowardly  untrustworthy jackals.

Do not reply to me again unless it is about your accomplishments here

I don't give one fuck about your opinion - do you get that coward jackal scumbag sock puppet creating grassing shit stain imbecile.

I am not even narcissistic that is but ONE of the accomplishments I have made here . I have pms from so many people thanking me for changing their lives by telling them freely which of the projects here are worthy of time and effort to investigate. I have made several people multi millionaires from having nothing. I have threads with people confirming I have helped them gain fortunes. I gave that information freely. From the 10 I predicted 6  were the in the TOP 10 biggest gainers.

That is another tiny thing I have done for people here. You think DASH is my only one.

If there were 1000 suchmoons here you would not have made the difference i have and never once have I made these very reasonable comments about myself until you scumbags go and pick one of my very best to try and get me banned you dumb ass fools.

OK, I got put on DT2 and then was made a merit source.  

I'm one of the most generous merit-givers here and try to act like a manure spreader, letting the merits fly all over the place, hitting as many different users as possible.  

I got accepted into one of the most competitive signature campaigns on the forum, for which I'm grateful.

I've tagged a lot of account dealers who later turned out to be complete scammers (you can go through the feedbacks I've left yourself).

I've reported about 4000 posts, 99% of which were good.

Oh yeah, marlboroza left you a neg and then removed it, right?  I apologize; I honestly forgot about that.  You might think you're the center of my universe, but it's actually easy for me to forget insignificant idiots and the feedbacks they've received.

Edit:  Just to let everyone else know, none of the above is stuff I'd brag about, but cryptoscunter asked for some accomplishments and seemed like he'd keep asking me until I provided some evidence....of whatever.

Whack a mole and earning yourself good bucks from sigs -

brag??

You I have tried to go easy on mostly due to the fact I feel you should not be treated as a serious character ...however you are not at all prepared for the factual account I can bring just demonstrating how foolish you are during a debate and the total and utter lack of clarity of thought.

You have not yet that I know tried to fuck me over as bad as some. More hiding and sniping and meriting their observable trash and word salad ... even seeming a bit shocked at foxy time travel merits. Stay the fuck out of my way unless you have a valid opinion of your own and a full case to substantiate it and not just say you will not answer me and run off. Then saying shit about me in other threads.
Stay out of my way and perhaps I will not crush you in public.

When I say I will crush people or destroy them I mean with facts demonstrating exactly why such people should not be in positions of trust or power. I have that evidence whether you chose to believe me or not until it is presented is your problem.

Find one case on this entire board where I have been wrong ANYWHERE about something I was serious about. Not just joking around stuff.

I do not lose arguments because first I find the truth then I make sure I have a very powerful case to demonstrate it.

However smart you are I am not going to be drawn away from the facts I have that demonstrate what I know to be true.

When you have tackled HUGE scams with 100's of supporting scum bags against you and you alone and won every single argument and gained massive support against projects until they can not be mentioned without people saying scam and repeating my arguments.

GO research you are bunch of jackals and non achievers daring to insult me with bans and red trust.

I never even heard of suchmoon or any of these fucking jumped up little turds before ....where have you been hiding whilst me and others like me have been pushing back huge scams and helping genuine projects grow here.  Yeah hiding in merit building some back slappers club where you think you can do what the fuck you like including abusing the system to get me banned and give me red trust.

@such moon coward puppet shit stain

Oh so no accomplishments apart from whack a mole.? nothing at all come on???

Show me the LIE NOW

PROVE anything I have said about my past accomplishments are false NOW or stfu.

You dumb asses don't even realise that all of those posts have a link to the original quote at the bottom.

last I checked the only person who's left you a neg recently is Lauda

It would not matter how many copy and pastes you found because none of those would be for any other reason than helping people or helping the community.  

Slow down, I don't have enough space under my avatar to fit all this.


The most recent lie is about you having proof that I posted that plagiarism report. Here how it works: I know you're lying because I know for a fact I didn't post it so you can't have proof. You know you're lying because you know you don't have proof. It's really quite simple, isn't it?

So nothing then that would matter and nothing would be hugely different if you had not been here.

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I have that evidence whether you chose to believe me or not until it is presented is your problem.

m post wus delete so is fixes it 2 b smaller


lmfao btfo


malboroza


#truth

copy/pase other than scamming a sig camp by spamming is of no concern

LOL fuck off dick .... I will address this shit later and post where I said i have proof

I have corroborating events to suggest you are the one with the most motive to have done it and first to comment on it in my thread and all over it here ....and a cowardly jackal too....

You pull this shit on me then think  " you lied boo hoo" you think that will pull me off you now dumb ass.

YOU HAD EVERY REASON TO USE A PUPPET ACCOUNT MORON BECAUSE YOU ARE PART OF THE GANG TRYING TO SILENCE ME AND PUSH RED TRUST ON ME 2 DAYS AGO YOU COWARDLY SCUM... SO NOW IT WOULD LOOK BAD IF PART OF THE SAME GANG TRIED TO GET ME BANNED FOR BRINGING LIGHT ON THE FACT YOU ARE ALL PART OF A GANG COLLUDING TO SHUT PEOPLE UP

I AM FULLY ON TO YOU NOW AND I WILL PRESENT REASONABLE CREDIBLE AND CORROBORATING EVIDENCE FOR THIS AND YES IT DOES LOOK BAD FOR YOU.  EVEN HOW "YOU" HAPPENED TO BE THE ONE TO BE STRAIGHT THERE AFTER IT POPPED ON MY THREAD.

So still not accomplishments at all... that sums you up. Didn't think so because i never heard of you before and i have even heard of TP before and that is remarkable in its own right since he has not done anything of note either.

A gang of "done nothings" bullying people around ....LOL

You think the avatar is a non issue? You are wrong it is far more of an issue than the shit you are trying on me you snake.
Also you have no net worth in my books you help play wack a mole whilst nothing changes and you are negative to most people in threads and try to talk down to them ( i mean you are a imbecile as I have proven by breaking you to pieces in every argument until your skull collapses like a rotten pumpkin and you spew out pure ludicrous nonsense ....

"MOST PRE MERIT LEGENDS ARE SPAMMERS" - suchmoon  - do you stick to that LIE prove it or you are lying

boo hooo you told a lie I will cry to red trust, i will cry to some mods and hope i can get your told off. YOUR  LIE IS PROVABLE OBSERVABLE LIE.  My allegation is beyond proof on either side so your lie is worse plus I have corroborating evidence you lie has none and the evidence will contradict your lie got it now have you coward. Now fuck off you creepy freak.

You are a devious little snake and I don't trust you one bit. Time to demonstrate this to the rest of the board and not just meta.

"most pre merit legends are spammers" is the filthy disrespectful lie to the eldest and first of this forum some noob trash like you thinks you can claim   - so your proof is merit score =1001 - LOL stfu some are probably are not even posting.. or now and then at most

so tell me again right now the answer .... do you keep to your lie " most pre merit legends are spammers"  YES OR NO

how can you think that most of the eldest legends of this board are spammers you imbecile.

stfu i have no care to indulge you in anything you have no real power yet you are not a mod you are a coward...

who gives a fuck about your cycled merits. I have demonstrated you have a lot of merits but can not list one accomplishment here you moronic fool. That means shit. There are legends here that have gained not even a tenth of your cycled merits who could destroy your entire feeble mind in one debate. Go debate with DZ, or smooth or any other of the legends with hardly any merit.

You can't comprehend that your merit score does not mean that you are anything other than a shitposter who has accomplished nothing of note.....it's simple if your posts were great then where are your great acheivements??

You are a provable liar where I am making sensible and reasonable assumptions you can not prove are incorrect can you imbecile. Also to punish anything you have to have power and you have nothing but a gang that I will crush into disbanding or wearing down to a broken shell of what they were. It is easy for me because this time this gang are mediocre to low level functioning before they have enlisted some of a better standard. In your case this latest attempted scheme has backfired and given me much more ammunition. You can deny it but it is not going to work. One of you scum bags did this and it is pointing at you. If not I will blacken the entire group until one tells me who it was and I will let them out of it. Come forward now and I will not come after you specifically with this and you may retain some form of credbility here as trustworthy. You have 1 day to contact me and tell me who reported that shit under a puppet account.

Stop replying to me unless  you bring some achievements ..... why should I talk to such a low achiever anway??

what kudos will I have to say in the future when crypto takes over. LOL......... i remember back in the early days of crypto ... I was talking to the user such moon and he well.....let's take a look back in history on the board at his claim to fame..... errr okay let's move back to talking about someone of more repute who made a difference.

I am going back to meta and to stay there I am finished with you here and in full until you prove you are worthy of my high achieving time. It is valuable not like your whack a mole - nobody would notice if you existed nonsense.

I have tried to be nice to you but now you have proven to be a disgusting cowardly scum bag. there is no more of it. You will be publicly demonstrated to be a moron and a liar not to mention a bully to the weak minded.

So please state it again

Yes or no - most pre merit legends are spammers. A simple yes or no I don't want is enough for me...bla bla bla

You wil try and weasel out of it....now state after me. I suchmoon state that most pre merit legends are spammers. Or just say yes i believe all pre merit legends are spammers. SImple.

we will move to your other statements (lies) later.

It is though true isn't it, aside from whack a mole reporting you are nothing? achieved NOTHING of note yet seek to prove you are net positive cos you have some circled merits and other legends are worth nothing and are spammers if they have low merit??

So really cos all the moles just come back straight after ...then you are pointless right now? we can agree since you will not list any real accomplishments we can look back on the history of crypto and just not even look at what you did cos there is not net gain to demonstrate really?

I mean really to push you into net negative territory won't be that hard. Maybe I will be a big fucking coward piece of shit and start looking at yours for a tiny tiny error because it will not take much to create argument for you being net negative really.

I can't wait to tell low merit legends how most of them are spammers according to you? or is that not what you are saying I have still not had a simple yes or no??

Look it is easy YES

NO

I can do it all the time. Try it then we move to some of your other lies.

The thing is i don't give one fuck about your or your lies at all. I just want you to fuck off and stop talking to me at all. Stop coming replying to everything I say (because I can demonstrate you have hounded me and been negative 1st to me on the vast vast vast majority of times when I have never hardly ever sort you out to talk to you first.) I will still see you off dt and never a mod and hopefully take your merit source away for what you have done here with this shit you tried to pull on me today. I see may now  need to raise you to scammer really because such devious sneaky dirty tactic is quite something a scammer would do.

You are damaged goods a sad little loser who can not tell me one accomplishment but wants to tell all pre merit legends his seniors and his betters they are mostly all spammers

LOL you are funny and pointless.

Going to hav change thread title
""top 200 merit recievers problem with cryptohunter""

Gong to hav 2 change username to "Cryptohunter's Sole Sockpuppet Supporter".

Gong to hav 2 change username to "Cryptohunter's Sole Sockpuppet Supporter".

. What are you doing here with your high profit sig that now you mention it I notice many gang members are wearing. This is of great interest to me too.

Gong to hav 2 change username to "Cryptohunter's Sole Sockpuppet Supporter".

Can you tell me why you should even have a legendary title?? I don't understand why you will feature in any part of crypto currency history.

This comes to mind:

I never said otherwise so not sure what you want from me. Yes, I think most pre-merit Legendaries are spammers. Do you need that notarized?


I'm happy to keep you amused.

So that evidence thing for the bolded part... coming today or not? or ever? or will you just keep lying and hoping that no one will notice the complete absence of proof?

So 2 days ago the gang tried to abuse the trust system and crush my account. I forced that scoundrel to remove it or prove it was worth a red trust.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086816.0

Now these same pieces of cowardly trash are creating puppet accounts because they know it would look bad if I could prove it was them who did it and trying to get me banned and have now fucked that up because they are thick as shit, and did not notice all links for anything posted in that same post were at the bottom. So they will have a hard time proving that I was trying to claim anything in that post as my own when you click a link in the same post and see where the information came from. These scum suckers have proven my point by trying to silence me and crush my account. We need to one get rid of the cancer at the top levels of this forum before worrying about the spammers at the bottom. I mean how has it escaped the notice of everyone here that most of these if not all are wearing the same high paying sigs??? are you all blind to this?? the pharmacist just listed as him main accomplishment here or one them was to be in this high paying EXCLUSIVE sig campaign. Now I notice dark star runs it and so i believe it is legit cos he seems straight and okay. But still these shits complaining about the board turning into a financial milk cow for posters with sigs are probably milking the board with their needless posts 24/7 which are just their groundless opinions for the most part.

They did not notice because if you read their posts especially if anyone stands up to them with some simple reason, logic and demands for fair treatment you start to find out these highly regarded (by nobody much outside of this echo chamber) noobs are a bunch of actual morons whom under any scrutiny collapse and degrade into making statement that are ludicrous and they will not go back on them.

One of these imbeciles is called suchmoon who claims and has verified this statement to me several times

HE CONSIDERS MOST PRE MERIT LEGENDS TO BE SPAMMERS and states he is dead serious.

at first I thought he was blowing of steam at being defeated publicly in every debate I had with him and he was blowing off steam.

But no, ask him out right, he is saying that.

Also he said to me that I was incorrect and idiotic for saying that some of the 99.93% of users here could make posts as good if not better than some of the 0.13% group he is part of being a high merit cycle club member.

Then if i say something to him that you can not prove you are a liar and you will see what happens to liars on here he says

I strongly suspect it is that asshole that has made that puppet account and trying to shut my account down again. The guy is hating it that he has just realised he is a bottom feeding imbecile who hates to lose an argument and hates even being challenged on anything.

This is very dangerous indeed and this copy and paste is being used as a very dangerous tool by this idiot such moon and his goons.

Now besides the fact I have asked just a few question on legends getting banned for copy and paste infractions threads which suchmoon does not like. However his main problem is that he does not like the fact that I demonstrated merit is being cycled in tight circles on certain boards by certain people.

This gang is infesting all areas of power and influence here and are not trying to shut people down with dubious and worrying tactics.

I mean he believes he can scare me off saying it is him or them doing this with some i'll red trust your or get you banned if you accuse me. Well fuck off you little sniveling turd who has accomplished nothign of note here ever apart from play whack a mole and bully some people around. I will accuse you because it is strange how this little group of

DT trust
Merit source
Wanna be mods ( they do)
top merit buddies and hoarders (time machine involved apparently)
top paid sig club (whilst moaning about financially motivated posting)

all needs to be taken away from them

Let me list this band of cowardly moronic scum

The pharmacist - a total moron who makes a mockery of the merit system just by having any. Pretends to be humble and nice but as soon as he spot someone weaker than him (not many around) he starts to get all evil and bullying with them. Insisting some poor noob making a thread on "meta" of all places with a compilation of guides that he clearly listed he got from various places on the net... said he was claiming the work as his own and gave red trust and tried to get him banned. Tyrant piece of scum.



Suchmoon - a caustic negative shitposter that can not debate anything without getting destroyed and reduced to a blabbering imbecile that screaming most pre merit lengends are spammers and that 99.93% of active users are incapable of posting anything as good as the 0.13% - how can people with these pre conceived ideas be in such positions on this board.

LocyeV - another complete fool who is good for pulling data only any  simple conversation and he falls apart and starts crying and saying you are on ignore.  His logic if he is AI is not a threat to anyone but itself. This alarmingly dangerous moron merits the sock puppet account from his friends reporting me for ban and the link to the information posted is in the actual post 2 link at bottom that one. He is always meriting dumb stuff remove his merits and take him back to noobie.

Lauda - scam supporting self contradicting turn coat and apparent recent thief that is already removed from damaging the community from positions of trust and power - how is this devious skank still posting here anway?

Malboroza - not sure about this nutcase too much, but he looks very dubious too.

these people talk down to everyone voicing their groundless and self serving opinions and seek to silence via these disgusting tactics anyone that goes against them.

Stand up to this scum before it is too late.

How come people even allow these scabs to become such a powerful gang here going around being total assholes spamming and milking the board just as bad as anyone else.

Get these scumbags out of dt trust and anything else they can start to dominate and bully people around.

I was warned after I spoke up for people in the ban appeals they will come for me. I don't give a shit and I am not going to delete my post history to hide any little shit mistakes from these divs.

If I am not net positive here then those bunch of non achieving divs will be going too.

Also such moon thinks it is funny that he can take sentances I write in my posts and put them in his avatar - to show he can copy and paste but nobody else is allowed to ....  get this scum bag put back to junior too, or even bad this piece of shit.

He did the same thing on this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086816.60) after launching a tirade of nonsense about me. He's wrong, he knows it, he knows everyone else knows it, but wants to remove their ability to point it out.

He did the same thing on this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086816.60) after launching a tirade of nonsense about me. He's wrong, he knows it, he knows everyone else knows it, but wants to remove their ability to point it out.

It's why I've pretty much bowed out of this issue/drama - if someone is so scared of what their opponents have to say that they have to forcibly silence them, then there is no point even having a discussion with them. If they want to live in their echo chamber with their fingers in their ears and ignore all sense and reason, then you might as well just leave them to it.

One way to try avoiding negative ratings for lying is to insult and argue (again, with lies) against everyone thereby being able to call them out for "bias" and other nonsense ("losing debates"). This is what the baboon has been doing. Once you start making up fantasies about "gangs" when there clearly are none, you know you've lost.

too fucking stupid to understand

You seem to be too stupid to understand how multiposting works. Please refrain from breaking the rules. If your posts get deleted there will be a never-ending whine fest and nobody wants that.

bring your gang and remove all of their sigs for 2 years I have an open challenge there. I want foxpoop on that too for the future don't want any of your alts or gang spamming for dollars any longer.

If they want to live in their echo chamber with their fingers in their ears and ignore all sense and reason, then you might as well just leave them to it.

Get back to the other thread you coward and jackal...bring your gang and remove all of their sigs for 2 years I have an open challenge there. I want foxpoop on that too for the future don't want any of your alts or gang spamming for dollars any longer.

cryptohunter started a new thread and locked it. I guess that's one way to win a debate - to not have one.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088231

This goes beyond feeding the troll, this is like climbing into a lion's den at the zoo and trying to pet him.

One way to try avoiding negative ratings for lying is to insult and argue (again, with lies) against everyone thereby being able to call them out for "bias" and other nonsense ("losing debates"). This is what the baboon has been doing. Once you start making up fantasies about "gangs" when there clearly are none, you know you've lost.

And since we're on the subject of cryptohunter: what's with the obsession of asking people to remove their paid signature? It's the second campaign I'm in, it's loyal to me, and I'm loyal to the campaign.

CH probably considers Chipmixer part of the "power" structure here.

I'm speaking only for myself here, but I'm not part of any gang and I'm not going to quit Chipmixer because some insane troll has challenged me to do so.  Also, there's no gang except the paranoid schizophrenic voices in your head; the members you're challenging to quit their signature campaigns aren't spammers and no one would benefit from such an arrangement except the real spammers who would apply in droves for the open campaign slots.

Which is what I've been trying to do, but I'm finding it difficult because of all the mud being slung by cryptoscunter.  He's clearly delusional, has gone full-mixan at this point, and I know I'm trying to argue with a mentally-crippled person, and yet I keep replying to his posts.  The pigeon has indeed shit all over my beautiful chess board.

I get the feeling he wants to get tagged by DT, so he can claim how unfair it is.

It's the second campaign I'm in, it's loyal to me, and I'm loyal to the campaign.

Participants in this campaign have earned 14908 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17P52DifaD7YfvzLkX3wrxGVpKcaPHY4y57ZpI-FK754/edit#gid=1700332667)^* Merit points, that's about 5% of the total for less than 60 users! It's almost as if spammers aren't accepted and Merit is rewarded for good posts.

^* Inaccurate stat as not all new participants are included in that sheet

Remember when digaran did exactly that?  Whatever happened to him, anyway?

I feel the same way about Chipmixer, though it's not the 2nd one I've been in.  No way in hell I'm going to quit it just to satisfy (which it wouldn't anyway) a mentally ill, rambling, ranting, raving, foaming-at-the-mouth, all-caps-typing, libelous troll.

you proved it but i will give you a second opportunity

tell me about your notable achievements here ...aside from whack a mole...   people can just keep coming back cant they. Seems your life is pointless :(  shame

me a giant of achievements

Remember when digaran did exactly that?

Whatever happened to him, anyway?

It turns out cryptohunter has been going at this for a very long time:
http://i65.tinypic.com/xm5qpf.gif
Please retreat back to the altcoin spam boards, you'll be much happier when nobody reads your posts :P

Of course, and eventually someone has had enough of the trolling, and tags him. And the more he digaran complained about it, the more red trust he collected.
Digaran's English was less good than cryptohunter's, but his troll level was more advanced than just making crap up about users.

I think he gave up after his -16, although some say he may be using an alt-account now.

thanks you dumb shit check it out they are scammers i busted them like I am busting your dumb ass

It doesn't look like kashish948 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=152514 is scammer. I don't know, it seems account has long trading history here. Am I missing something here?

"They are scammers" is statement. Why is kashish948 scammer?

I don't need to answer your questions you are nothing. Do you understand now. I will provide when someone with some power makes me answer why I say that and I will have an answer.

I think it is time for you to be removed from any positions of trust or power and that goes for the entire gang.

Since you said this...


... and have not removed me yet from any positions I think this means I have the POWER. Probably the whole "gang" does, including marlboroza. You have to answer him. Your own rules. Unless you extend it again to 3 years.

I just realised I have more power than all of you... It's great to have all this power.

Imagine the power to say what have you achieved here and hear silence in return from you all...... that is power.

Imagine the power to challenge the gang to remove their sigs and they say HELL NO WAY --- that is power.

Imagine the power to own the entire gang over and over and over again and again until they say boohoo most pre merit legends are spammers or the will not answer or try to back peddle when they have been shown what they have just said is full moron hahah.... that is power

Imagine the try not 1 time to fuck me but 2 times and i stick it back to them and now destroy their trust and small credibility ......that is power.

I can't imagine any of that. Sounds like something you made up. And there is more plagiarism in your post history, as if you're some kind of shitposter or something: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg48828854#msg48828854

what part do you not get that I am not concerned about you and your gang I mean asking a mod to ban me .... imagine getting banned for stopping the biggest scam in history on this board you dumb cunt.

I am not worried so stop telling me about it just get it done you fucking piece of cowardly shit. If I will be banned for fighting a hugea scam then my friends will join this board to destroy you alll over and over and over again with my legendary story and what a bunch of non achieving scum you are for trying to even ban someone who was a REAL LEGEND .... i will live on forever I will instruct all of my friends to join and tell my story and you lack of achievements over and over and over and over,

I will live on if only in spirit haahhah you stupid dumb cowardly shit stain.

How can you handle looking so pathetic and petty ... I mean you are at a point now you can never win from you just do not see it. You should just use an alt now if i were you newbie such moon.

Do your "friends" speak German? I think I met one of them yesterday.


I think you're already on a copious amount of spirits.

~blah~

Do you notice how I talk down to you now like your gang does to new members.

imagine getting banned for stopping the biggest scam in history on this board you dumb cunt.

I am not worried so stop telling me about it just get it done you fucking piece of cowardly shit. If I will be banned for fighting a hugea scam then my friends will join this board to destroy you alll over and over and over again with my legendary story and what a bunch of non achieving scum you are for trying to even ban someone who was a REAL LEGEND .... i will live on forever I will instruct all of my friends to join and tell my story and you lack of achievements over and over and over and over,

YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND I DONT GIVE ONE FUCK IF YOU FIND SOME MISQUOTED LAZY QUOTE NON QUOTED COPY AND PASTE SHIT ON MY ACCOUNT ....IT WILL NEVER BE FINANCIALLY MOTIVATED IT WILL NOT EXIST YOU DUMB FUCK

IT WILL EITHER BE FIGHTING SCAMS OR FIGHTING FOR FAIRNESS - EITHER WAY I WILL NEVER GET BANNED FOR COPY AND PASTE BECAUSE THERE WILL NEVER BE SELFISH MOTIVE.

SO DONT BOTHER ME WITH IT AND LOOK EVEN MORE PATHETIC AND PETTY AND SUCH A SORE LOSER THAT YOU WILL NEVER BE LIKE THE REAL LEGEND THAT IS CRYPTOHUNTER..... GETTING IT YET LOSER. EVEN WHEN A REAL LEGEND IS TAKEN DOWN BY HOARDS AND HOARDS OF JACKALS AND BACKSTABBING COWARDLY CUNTS. THEY WILL LIVE ON IN THE MEMORY OF OTHERS AND THEIR FRIENDS WHO WILL JOIN TO MAKE SURE HE IS NEVER FORGOTTEN.

NOBODY WILL EVER GET BANNED FROM HERE FOR FIGHTING A SCAM

THE HUGEST SCAM EVER

AND BEATING THEIR ENTIRE ARMY OF SUPPORTERS INCLUDING LAUDA AND THE PHARMACIST

I AND OTHERS WHO JOINED ME BROKE EVAN THAT DAY ...LIKE I HAVE BROKEN YOU ALL AND HE LOST IT AND OFFERED AN AIRDROP WORTH NOW BILLIONS AND BILLIONS AND THAT DAY THE MARKET CAP FOR DASH SCAM SPIKED DOWN 90%

THAT IS WHAT I AND MY FRIENDS ACHIEVED

NOBODY WILL BE BANNED FOR SOME SLOPPY QUOTING OR COPY AND PASTE  HERE

LOOK AT THIS WITCH HUNT ALL RUNNING SCARED AND DESPERATE WHILE I RELAX

THE LEGEND OF CRYPOHUNTER WILL BE IN THE HISTORY BOOKS WHEN CC TAKES OFF AND YOU GUYS WILL BE LOATHED AND DESPISED HAHAHAH

I CAN NOT LOSE NOW .... YOU LOOK SO PETTY SO DESPERATE AND SO COWARDLY WITH YOUR 0 DAY OLD SOCK PUPPETS ...

HAHAHAH

DO YOU THINK MY VERY GOOD FREINDS WILL NOT JUST JOIN AND REMIND EVERYONE OF WHAT YOU LOSERS AND NON ACHIEVERS HAVE DONE HERE ....BECAUSE YOU WISH YOU WERE CRYPTOHUNTER

YOU ARE NOT YOU ARE NOTHING YOU ARE JEALOUS YOU ARE WORTHLESS WORMS

I CAN NOT LOSE FROM HERE I LIVE ON AS I AM OR I LIVE ON IN SPIRIT ..... I MEAN BOASTING ABOUT MYSELF ... I LOVE IT ANYWAY BECAUSE IT IS TRUE..

BUT OTHERS WILL COME TO BOAST ABOUT ME EVER MORE THAN I COULD.....

SO YOUR WITCH HUNT SUCCEEDS I LEAVE A REAL LEGEND THAT JUST STARTED TO MAKE NEW PEOPLE AWARE OF MY PAST ACHIEVEMENTS

MY GOOD AND FAITHFUL FREINDS WILL PROBABLY JOIN AND THEY WILL NEVER FEELING ANYTHING BUT PRIDE AND POINTING OUT ALL THE GREAT ACHIEVEMENTS OF CRYPTOHUNTER AND HOW THESE NON  ACHIEVING COWARDLY JEALOUS AND DESPERATE JACKALS EVENTUALLY FORCED OTHERS TO THEIR WILL AND CRYPTOHUNTER WAS BROUGHT DOWN .............WHAT AN END TO A GREAT STORY

I WILL ASK MY FRIENDS TO TELL IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND POINT OUT ALL THE THINGS AND ASK ALL THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT THE GREAT LEGEND CRYPTOHUNTER HIMSELF WAS DOING

I WILL ASK THEY CONTINUE MY GREAT NET POSITIVE WORK FOR FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY FOR ALL.

WHILST OF COURSE TELLING THE LEGENDS TALE OVER AND OVER.... BELIEVE ME THAT STORY IS JUST GETTING STARTED... HOLDING BACK DASH AND STOPPING IT QUITE POSSIBLY PUSHING BTC IN TO 2ND PLACE  AND MAKING UNTOLD AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE GO FROM RAGS TO MILLIONAIRES (NOT THE PHARMACIST THAT DUMB POOR CRETIN) .....THAT IS NOT NEARLY ALL OF IT .....NO NOT AT ALL.

I WONDER WHAT THEY WILL SAY ABOUT ME FOR YEARS TO COME AND I WONDER WHAT THEY WILL SAY TRUTHFULLY ABOUT ALL OF YOU.

OFF TO THE GYM AND THEN OUT FOR A LOVELY EVENING AND TALK TO ALL MY GREAT FRIENDS .....HAPPY SNITCHING DESPERATE FOOLS THAT WILL NEVER ACHIEVE ANYTHING.... WEEEEEEEEEE

Ok, first of all if you're not familiar with the cryptohunter debacle - lucky you, and do you have any extra room under that rock you've been hiding under?

But there is some genuinely funny albeit cringy stuff there, just don't click on those links and don't get sucked into it if you value your sanity.

I made a mistake to post in the Wall of shame (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4564216) thread. CH and her alt took it as a permission to troll that thread. From now on I'll reply to CH and post any other CH-related stuff only in this thread.

From now on I'll reply to CH and post any other CH-related stuff only in this thread.

Cryptohunter has been trolling the forum extensively as of late, and there is no reasoning or rebuttal that will get through to him.  He is spreading lies and espousing a conspiracy about a "gang" that exists in his own fantasy world.  

I am therefore vowing to cease replying to any of his posts and put him back on ignore permanently, because I refuse to feed a troll who is so obviously vicious, disturbed, and hungry for attention.  This thread is for members who would like to take the same vow.  I would encourage you to do so, because that's pretty much the only way to get the trolling to stop.

If you want to take the same vow, just write your response here--that's the sole purpose of this thread and is not one for cryptohunter or his sad little alt account to post in.  Those posts will be deleted.

Get back to the other thread you coward and jackal...bring your gang and remove all of their sigs for 2 years I have an open challenge there. I want foxpoop on that too for the future don't want any of your alts or gang spamming for dollars any longer.

foolish calling me her alt 2

last desperate attempt b4 defeat - run to your threads

CH has all the power now
ch can post anywhere now and kick you 2 out of any thread because you cant reply to him

We can still reply to threads. We're just gonna ignore your posts in those threads. Eventually you'll get bored and slither away. The only reason you were able to crap so widely recently is because people tend to engage in discussions and can't immediately see that you only care about you. This all feigned concern about plagiarism bans etc was also just your attempt to whitewash your own copypasta.

CHs .5btc payment for plagarism thread was bad

Are you trying to weasel out of paying 0.5 BTC?

So shocking.

I have revoked that idea due to the fact many complained it was a silly high figure.

You are the weasel here. Nobody can fail to see it now and never will they forget it. You are all weasels trying to slime into every little position you can. Imagine any of you dirt bags as mods... then again they had laudaM so perhaps this is a real possibility. Hmm my friends are very numerous though so perhaps not that big of a deal I am making friends here daily too in meta I think. I mean aside from you guys of course.

Your dumb ass gang are fucked now they all turned down my 3 year sig ban challenge. I will bring up their paid for posting sig spamming shit whenever I like. Not even one accepted. Haha No way in hell im not getting paid to post.... then.... those financially motivated noob spammers....I love it

My greatest achievement here - err getting into this highly paid sig campaign of course....haha why do you let him post. Say he can have free lodgings in with loyceV in the cellar of your ghetto pad and just handcuff him to


I heard you may have a slightly larger amount of fuck-all than those other broke ass bums. Why don't you help them out with some bucks... well the ones that are not your alts. I mean  Thepharmacist. Don't tell me you can't give him a few bucks to tide him over xmas?

He said he will give you some PIVx as collateral at the rate I sold them to him.

He could just start posting more I guess but you have a dilema... the more he posts his pointless comments where he adds nothing but ....actually just may as well stop there. So the more opportunity one would have to question the need for him to clutter threads with his opinions and ideas that are obviously founded on nothing other than the need to earn some btc dust.

I'm at a party but I knew you would be here alone so I wanted to say hi and keep you company.

People asking what I do... i tell them nothing, I spend money really now. At the moment it is ThePharmacists.... just today I bought a lovely new watch for myself it was a tough choice because I wanted the meteorite face with Platinum case. Only white gold available though...go figure. Anyway bought both in the end the platinum one weighs a ton.


 I mean you would hardly lift it with all of your ailments. I worked out if TP spams his signature 10x per day (i mean we know he can churn out perhaps 50 on a very bad day ) for.......well ...sadly a very long time then he too could afford to pay for a service on both of these for me. Now, it's going to work like this... I have more PIVX to sell (these are the better variety this time def winners ) but he can't get his greasy mitts on them until 350k sats same deal as last time. I'll sell him a few then I zip them off for a service. I will send him some pics of them so he can put them on his cardboard wall... i'll use the thick paper this time high insulation value.

No no, don't backpedal now. I'm sure we can arrange an exception and let you try out this option to see if it really works.


Yes, you're making numerous friends as quickly as you can create sockpuppet accounts.


Don't lie. As soon as I removed my signature you started changing the terms in stupid ways to weasel out of it.


No idea what any of this means. Sounds like you're bragging about something. If you despise us here so much why do you feel the need to post this garbage ? Are we supposed to envy you or adore you... what's the plan?

Your dumb ass gang are fucked now they all turned down my 3 year sig ban challenge. I will bring up their paid for posting sig spamming shit whenever I like. Not even one accepted. Haha No way in hell im not getting paid to post.... then.... those financially motivated noob spammers....I love it

Why does this challenge get an extra year added every time I turn around? In any case, as I said before, I don't have a paid sig, so does that mean I'm not part of suchmoon's ass gang, dumb as it may be? I'm beginning to feel left out. :(

Yes you are part of it you sly fox. Don't worry I have noticed you are very much part of it. I am including you anyway because you may add one later.

Do you mind the extra years being added? I mean surely with time travel that is kind of a mute point right?

I will bring up their paid for posting sig spamming shit whenever I like. Not even one accepted. Haha No way in hell im not getting paid to post.... then.... those financially motivated noob spammers....I love it

cheers

thanks for the answer.

It doesn't look like kashish948 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=152514 is scammer. I don't know, it seems account has long trading history here. Am I missing something here?

"They are scammers" is statement. Why is kashish948 scammer?

Can you quote exact words where TP said this?

There are only a handful of real alts worth investing in rather than btc. I would just hold btc if i were you.

If you want to look at others these are the only ones

bitbay
blocknet
piv
byteball
sys

there are a few others but those above are good bets for current market caps.


INDIVIDUAL COIN/TOKEN PRICE IS NOT IMPORTANT ONLY CONSIDER THE MARKET CAP OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT

not sure about shill but best to invest in are the real projects


bitbay
blocknet
pivx
komodo
sys
byteball

do your own research and confirm

I would suggest those that will make the best returns from here on

1. bitbay
2. blocknet
3. byteball
4. pivx
5. komodo


teams with proven talent and staying power

do your own research but there are a few others that could return even better but for me less chances for those ones so didn't mention

Bitbay  for sure

others to consider

blocknet
komodo
pivx
byteball
litecoin


of course you should do research of your own accord

there are other interesting new designs but already they seem to have huge caps

these are ones that I believe are going to make good investments based on extensive research

Look for old teams with real projects with real use cases that are finished or almost finished ... that obviously can design and code.


bitbay
blocknet
byteball

komodo
sys
ltc
eth
doge
pivx


also very low caps with teams that are proven to keep working away

several

who cares what the top 3 on cmc will be?

better to know which 3 will bring the greatest returns.

bitbay
blocknet
komodo
pivx
sys
byteball

my bets are on those

every single project listed in the OP are long shot low probability gambles

of course the under 10 cents is completely irrelevant anyway


the only real projects on this board that are way below value are

bitbay
blocknet
pivx
sys
byteball
komodo

do your homework and pay attention to the initial distribution

if they have a working platform good but i would prefer


bitbay
blocknet
sys
komodo
byteball

Which commitments ?

Now that deal is still on.

~

Don't worry though he will after I explain it on every post of his that I see.

It doesn't look like kashish948 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=152514 is scammer. I don't know, it seems account has long trading history here. Am I missing something here?

"They are scammers" is statement. Why is kashish948 scammer?

~ switched to a sockpuppet

merits are now compounding the issue it is strange that nobody can see this

it is actually a good thing that all this snitcher mentality is soon to be  replaced with a fair and transparent rewarding mentality

[...]

don't worry though I will soon have a few ideas to improve things... leave it to me. that is what being really net positive is about...changing things for the better

I say signatures for mods only at this point. Until a new system is available that does not require a reprogramming of human nature before using it with any hope of success of creating a board that operates in  the same manner and same principles as the entire trustless decentralised arena we are meant to be fascinated with.

o_e_l_e_o  yes I am refering to you you.

Trying to insert yourself in threads on pretty much every one of your favorite topics:

CH has all the power now
ch can post anywhere now and kick you 2 out of any thread because you cant reply to him



me to i guess

power is working

No one responded to those posts yet. Such a waste of "power".

Sorry, I assumed you were committed to upholding your end of the challenge over the time period in question without unilaterally changing the terms partway through. How silly of me to think that.

why are you copy and pasting all my posts you sad loser...

I was not baiting him

You dumb shit...that's like me coming to buy your car that I have agreed to pay ...well since it is your car let's say 200bucks then saying I will offer you 300bucks now and you telling me now way stop changing things....

VERY expensive automobile

what are you trying to demonstrate???

why not tackle these questions head on in debate

why are you copy and pasting all my posts you sad loser...

why dont you make some posts so that I may demonstrate clearly how you are net negative

a boycott lol what more confirmation these mentally defective fools have no answers to my clearly reasonable questions

I mean where is one reasonable counter argument from any of suchmoon or the paid2post goons.

I double checked this page and no one is copy/pasting your posts. I would appreciate if you could point to exact example of copy paste in this thread.
It does look like a bait.
You might want to read this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086297.msg48847762#msg48847762 it seems you missed question again.

Do you I have to tell you again that you are of no note and no importance?  I don't need to even answer you nor give you any heed at all?

Merit system and trust system are broken - i will destroy the credibility of both of those because they are currently tools for centralised power and manipulation.

Post all of your  stupid questions on a meta thread from now, on i see your ploy to waste my time on this one thread... when I prefer to highlight what a  jealous and petty non achiever with a damaged mind you are to your ex fans in meta.

That shows how concerned I am about your feeble mind. Hurry up I know you can't resist still trying you poor wretch. I will expect all of these in meta threads asap. Now hurry up I don't have all day to spend with you idiots.

come bring your analogy to meta in that thread so I can destroy you all over again whilst highlighting the goons refusing to remove it all over again....

I will just keep offering the challenge I mean the fact they will not do it immediately is brilliant I will never get bored of demonstrating they are not enthusiasts they are paid2post fools that have achieved nothing of note.

This point actually leads nicely into my other larger point that I can keep bitch slapping you and the goons with over and over.

Now I am going back to meta and if you are boycotting me that will play to my plan anyway it proves collusion and fear.

all start with cryptohunter not agree when one of central gang say "pre merit legends are spammers"

CH point out the fact & data of the still broken aspect & centralize merit system correctly

marlboroza  have most centralized merit history & get angry when data show

marlboroza then try stop CH with fake RED TRUST but had to remove 4 fake
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086816.0

gang cant handle criticism  centralize merit

one of gang make sock first to ban CH on plagarisms
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg48790244#msg48790244
& fail   -  source was there

next marlboroza main account start digging for plagarisms again to shut down CH with 4yoa post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg48828854#msg48828854
& fail again

keep digging

marlboroza dig posts still today try to ban CH
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5086297.msg48837494#msg48837494
still fail

this dirty tactic of marlboroza shut down opinion by search ancient post  4 plagarisms
we not worry about ""plagarisms"" in 2013-2014 like now

TP & SM hide from subject in threads

I say dirty tactic used

you think good to use tactic ?
how u feel if marlboroza search all your old post 2 ban u on technical if u disagree with marlboroza ?

marlboroza try find me 2 to dig 4 plagarisms but wont expose

apology - have to hide writing type or be attack by dirty tactic

I am in favour of removing sigs for everyone except mods and a handful of people that have  strict criteria handed down to them to keep order but it is applied to everyone fairly and equally.

Good post and I am glad you made the effort to make it. However I am unable to merit it at this point. I will though in future if it is proven to make my post redundant and demonstrate it is of zero merit value. However I expect all merits removed from your post if it turns out to be a bunch of words that does not rebut my post nor even tackle the prime points I make.

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Or will I here now provide reasonable and corroborating evidence that this is a post that gains a bunch of merit for something that tries to refute something that is clearly provable and observable???

and therefore not only should it not get any merit it should actually get negative merit for trying to convince people of something that is clearly NOT true.

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Each person should remove your merits for that post if you can not prove what you have said is correct relating to my post. In adding merit to a post that is negative and not adding merit to a post that is correct and pushes towards improving systems he demonstrates are not only open to corruption but are being used by a gang to stifle free speech......that is a system that needs to be fixed or removed. With that in mind all merit scores would be null and void and any meaning read into them should be struck away. To even consider more systems built upon a broken system like that is not going to go well.

Let me accept as I am open minded then you COULD be correct about some things. Let me then find the optimal and true answer by having a sensible debate. If you are correct then I will retract my post and put a big RED statement that I am wrong at the top.

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YOU CAN NOT POSSIBLY ARGUE AGAINST THIS OR CALL IT A CONSPIRACY.

some of the 99.93% of current posters (not top200 merit hoarders) are able to make posts as good if not better than some of the 0.13% of the board (top 200 merit hoarders)

I can tell you now that chosen username (who ever you are) you are worth infinite everyone who dares not speak out about the gang taking over this board and of infinite value above those that will oppose observable instances and events to suite their own personal selfish agendas. You will not be forgotten here forgotten here.

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merry xmas and a happy new year indeed to chosen username and those that have done the right thing since I have been here.

I think that this is not a problem.People which have bigger amount of merit have more chance to get more merits,that is true but main reason is because they make high quality posts so If you have 400-500 merit or even more there is more chance that you will get merit because people see that this guy with so much merit is somebody who have good enought writing skills.There is a lot of people also which gives merit only for high quality post so it depends on each person but most times you will get merit even if you are not in top 200 merit receivers.

Sadly mikey and suchmoons reply to mikey had to be deleted.
The reason is clear.
Mikey runs around starting conversations then not finishing them.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088852.0

just in case you calm down tomorrow and decide to accept the help i am offering you. so i will re-post what you deleted.
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 ok bro, let me try to help you with something that might not have crossed your mind before.

and before I do so, i hope you know that i have been here only for a while and i do not give a fudge about any of the members on this forum, neither i am trying to "protect" anyone, but simply stating some numbers here, so before i get accused for being a part of the "gang" i just had to make myself clear.

You're more of a gang wanna be like many other saps. Seems you spend enough time defending the gang and see here again 3 gang members are meriting a post that is riddled with anecdotal experiences and again a faux rebuttal. You see the issue is you do not have the capacity to help me. This only helps in one way to again bring out the gang you are supporting with your faux rebuttal and groundless opinions and to demonstrate that you can not have dim witted imbeciles like them in charge of giving out merit.

Stick with me since I know this could be too long for you to concentrate on


so, I am going to assume that your "theory" about top merited members circulating merit among themselves is true, and i am going to explain to you something based on that theory.

There is no argument that they are circulated. Do you not understand the raw data that demonstrates they lose 80% if you remove just their own merits from them without their fav board merits. The fact you think it is up for opinion demonstrates you have no clue about anything

just because those merit have been "circulated" it does not mean they did so based on a "gang master plan", it is simply because those members are

1- the most active on the forum and the most deserving  - says a newbie who does not have the capacity to derive fact from fiction. Who has no  knowledge of their prior contributions to the forum which is practically nothing except what a mole. Your opinion of their posts is nothing other than what your mind will allow you to form. This is not the same as analysing the true value of the content of their posts. Have you also analysed the entire boards posts to date?? no you have not
or/and
2- they have the most sMerit so each one of them has a huge chunk of someone else's merit simply because those with more merit will always send more merit than those with less merit ! WTF , complicated ? ok look at my merit fans .

irrelevant information regarding how much they have to send.... also a flaw in the system that they have so much more than others to send with no set criteria


https://i.postimg.cc/Wb45nKbZ/merit.jpg

ignore "frodocooper" and "criptix" since
1- they are not on your suspect list.
2- frodocooper is a moderator of the mining board where i am usually active and criptix seems like a daily trader who likes my btcusd analysis and find them useful.

so just for  the sake of explanation i'l put suchmoon as my no.1 fan.

it's not because suchmoon gets anything in return for merting my posts, neither he/she knows me " i don't even know if suchmoon is a he or she to begin with" , never had anything to do with him/her.  

There is only 1 main reason why suchmoon gave me the most merit compared to the others : suchmoon has the most sMerit among those others who merited my posts ! , and look who is next ! another member of the "gang" .

this is mainly because those people have the most sMerit . i know you could argue about the amount of the merit "they" sent me is nothing compared to what they send to each other, but those merit i got are mainly in a month period of posting, if i keep my post quality the same, perhaps in a few more months i will have maybe a 1000 merit with at least 70%-90% merit coming from the "gang".

and also quite frankly,  i do think my merit fans deserve my sMerit the most, i am simply trying to merit newbies and members to "encourage" them , i sometimes see a good post for suchmoon or LoyceV and i end up giving the " a few" merit i have to other lower rank people with quality posts just to help them level up, even though i know this is wrong , but make no mistake, if i see a very high quality post by suchmoon i'l give him/her all the merit at my disposal simply because he/she deserve it. despite the fact that i disagree with a lot of suchmoon points of view specially that to do with "DT TRUST" which i discus with him/her a few times and never ended up agreeing to one another, but long story short IMO those guys are top quality posters and they deserve the merit they got.

i hate to make long posts, and here i am making a wall text, but let me help you even more.

thanks for trying to help but honestly you can not help me in your current state..

Another faux rebuttal.

1/ you are not (visibly part) of the gang so I am not bothered about your example about you... since my point was not in relation to you.

2/ I notice you mention suchmoon gave you more merits which again is probably why I see you meriting other shit posts he is making with false statements that are illogical but you dont again have the capacity to see that .. I mean him stating individuals can not objectively rate their own posts is actually false to a large degree, he means they can not be trusted to because the system is subjective and they can not be forced to. Not to mention why be objective in a subjective system. You are obviously a simple minded individual and that is fair enough because you fit in well with the gang. That however does not mean in any way you have formed some kind of rebuttal to my central point.

3/ more of your anecdotal merit earning history and opinions on things which may seem correct to you and may be correct but do not form any kind of rebuttal to my central point. Go read my long explanation with easy examples so that you understand more clearly before bothering to litter my threads with this junk again.

4/ If you can not be bothered or not capable of reading explanations to HELP YOU understand why you a presenting faux and empty rebuttals then why should I even bother to try and help you?

why not collect  shitposts from the "gang members" that was merited by the other "gang members" so that we all know your theory is correct. ?

The majority of posts that they make are nothing burgers. These people hide in merit and discuss their merits and how to endlessly enjoy whack a mole or endlessly defend the systems they control. I mean even if they make a valid point in those threads... the entire threads are worthless. Do you really believe any of these people can contribute to this forum like many of the devs out there that are filling in the missing pieces of this trustless decentralised end to end arena that will change the world... or the people that work to support those projects or people that seek to keep this board open transparent and fair for all and maintain free speech



if you manage to do so , you have a valid point and you got my support against the "gang", but ! if you fail to do so, then those merit were deserved and regardless of their sources your whole argument is wrong.

LOL says who? someone with no idea of what logic and reason ?


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i finish my conversations, i just don't finish the debate you want to start, you have been debating this topic for ages now, and you have not finished it, how will i make any difference towards the ending of this drama ?

LOL this does not even make any sense. There is no real debate. I just presented some facts that some people did not like. My central points are simply factual observations. The other debates that sparked up just resulted in demonstrating over and over than the gang are a bunch of fools that should not be judging anything or anyone. You came to my most important thread of the year and just made some anecdotal junk post like you just did and derived some strange implied meaning from it that does not exist then tried to say that was a rebuttal. Then ran off when I just tore it to pieces with facts and observable events.


plus, i have more things to do both in life and on the forum than having to reply to every single thing you or any other person say to me,in your topic i even ignored suchmoon reply to my post because i know it was going to be and endless debate with him/her, so i decided not to reply "because i am not obligated to reply to anybody if i don't want it, or if i have no time or mood for it" so it is nothing personal !

No you dont and Don't feel obligated to reply unless you can bring a sensible case for your opinion

 also the length of your replies makes it hard for me to follow, i really don't enjoy reading very long posts, i asked you a simple a question,  i expect a simple a answer not a very long reply that will take me 30 mins to read, i am a slow reader, never went to English school so i really put a lot of effort trying to read a whole newspaper long reply, if you would sum your question in a line or two i will be happy to answer it " if i have the time and mood for it", i might be on my man-monthly-period and have no mood to reply, this shouldn't make you mad. just move on.

I am bored of explaining it 2x already


i do not understand why did you delete my post, i am really trying to help you and ease your pain, i mean the "gang" are still getting all the Merit despite your trials, so i gave you 2 things to work with.
1- admit to "yourself at least", that your theory is wrong > i explained why do i think their merit were circulated.
2- prove that they "intentionally" circulated the merit among themselves not based on quality post what so ever.

I do not think you have any other options, sorry to say bro, and if you are mad at me for trying to help, i am sorry again, put me on ignore if you wish.

What you think is probably factually wrong most of the time.

I am not interested in if they get all of the merits because merit is subjective and meaningless. I am trying to reset merit and install some criteria to give it meaning and make it observably and unquestionably fairer. The fact you are fighting that demonstrates you do not understand the system or how it works or that you believe by ass kissing the gang you can put the broken system to your own personal gain.

I explained in the last thread why you were deleted. You could have come back with sensible data like the gang members top 10 fans and receivers (SOMETHING RELEVANT ) you did not ... bring them here and we can discuss.

I'm getting nauseous just looking at that wall of text. Got through ~3 paragraphs and it seems mostly the same stuff like "you're in a gang and too stupid to understand my conspiracy theory".

Then put through the truth filter suchmoons post reads...


I can't refute or dispute anything cryptohunter says. So i just make other excuses.

Get back to meta fool I am waiting there for you. Your last post was one of your best yet. I salute that level of irony. I can only hope it was intentional.

Or just hide cowering away in the self moderated threads away from scrutiny and facts LOL

I'm creating self-moderated threads thanks to your incontinence. But this one is not, feel free to post your garbage here

Perhaps that's not a lot in your mind but here's the thing: you're rank 606 for most-merited. Isn't it conducive that because the top merit-holders have the most sMerit, then the more merit you receive, the more likely it is to come from the top 200?

Let's say I want my merit score to be more diverse and earn more merits from altcoin shitposters. How exactly would I achieve that?

so you went from long posts to long blue posts. not bad for a change.

@loyce the AI  (absolute imbecile)

WTF? Why is LoyceV an absolute imbecile and I'm only a total imbecile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093854)? I feel like you're discriminating against me due to my lower merit score. That's it, I'm trowing my toys out of this thread and not talking to you until you start calling me "legendary imbecile sir"¹

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¹ or until you say something irresistibly stupid, whichever comes first.

WTF? Why is LoyceV an absolute imbecile and I'm only a total imbecile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093854)? I feel like you're discriminating against me due to my lower merit score. That's it, I'm trowing my toys out of this thread and not talking to you until you start calling me "legendary imbecile sir"

Lauda protected the dash captive instamine scam for years after it was proven. He is therefore  a confirmed scammer according this.
Now suchmoon protects suchmoon and therefore is a scammer.

You can't see how that works?

Lauda and suchmoon are scammers.

Brilliant logic (emphasis mine):

I thought were were alts ???

If I pre-emptively declare my own self-loathing, does that make me immune?

Brilliant logic (emphasis mine):

Here dumb ass replace the 2nd suchmoon with lauda. Sorry you could not work that out alone.