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So Top Rank's Bob Arum failed to persuade George Kambosos to face another opponent before demanding a rematch with undisputed champion Devin Haney. George Kambosos officially exercised his rematch clause against undisputed champ Devin Haney. The planned date is on October 15 at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne. It is the same venue as the very popular Australian Open (tennis).

I think the first fight was very boring and Haney clearly outscored Kambosos. I think it will happen again. But maybe the difference is that Kambosos will let his hands go right after the opening bell. Despite the boring first fight, we better expect another sold-out crowd as this is once in a lifetime experience in Australia. People will still go for sure. It is probably the PPV buys that will take a hit. Unless they both can promote this fight well. Haney is a boring trash-talker though but a mad Kambosos isn't.   

Yes, I do agree that it will be the same reason and probably he will school Kambosos again that's why Haney is willing to fight him in Australia.

Of course George might say that he will have the plan and will adjust. But Haney's technical ability will be in full display again and I doubt that Kambosos can offset it with his brawling style.

I voted for  Devin Haney Decision.

Kambosos might regret his decision on fighting Haney again in his backyard. Maybe he thinks he learn from his mistakes and that he can't get the opportunity. But as we have speculated in the first fight. Kambosos will execute the rematch clause and this is what he did here. Haney again will be the favorite in this fight by a huge lead just like in the first fight. I'm not that excited though, as this might be the repeat of the first fight and the same result.

They say style makes a fight, this is the kind of fight where Haney will have the advantage, fighting an opponent where he has the height and reaches advantage who loves to attack, all Haney will do is just wait for him and impose his advantage, jab and jab and then counter and its easy money for Haney, I don't know what kind of adjustment Kambosos will do, but you have Haney who can shift and makes an adjustment.
Well have the same result or it will be a better result for Haney because he already sized him up.

I don't know what Team Kambosos have in mind by IMO the result of this rematch will be the same as the first fight, it will still be a boxing clinic for Daven Haney, no offense to Kambosos fans here but his style is not made for the fighting style of Haney.

However, if Kambosos is fitted against a brawler like Lopez or Linares he will look good and his chance of winning is high so i wonder why he did not heed to Top Rank's call to fight another boxer and not this rematch.

Oh so they did activated the rematch clause of the match? very interesting move by Kambosos and his team. We can all speculate as to what are the reasons, but with the way he perform in the first fight, he was truly outclass and the skills of Haney is very different to all the fighters he has face like Lopez. And like what most of you have said, the outcome will be the same, Haney by unanimous division and Kambosos will be another "one hit wonder", his best win in his career is against Lopez.

I didn't vote for anyone because I don't know how it will go.I know that in every sporting event there is the favorite and the underdog but while this can be true in sports like soccer where they fight eleven vs eleven in boxing or direct fight between two persons I almost never bet because at the night of the match we don't know the real physical form of the athletes,thus making it almost impossible to guess it right.

The fact that may have a huge dis-balance on odds between one and the other doesn't say anything to me except the bookies belief,how many times we have seen people in tennis lose when they have an odd of 1.10,it is because of the same reason I said above,we can't know for sure the physical form of the contenders.

Well it's not the first time that this fighters are going to face each other, so at least if you have seen the first fight, you will have an idea on how this fight might be. But you have a point, maybe Kambosos will adjust and make things correct in this rematch.

As far as the odds, crypto bookies got it right on the first time, putting Haney as favorite if I'm not mistaken. Both physical form could be equal, they train very hard, it's a matter of how they are going to executed everything in the ring and who has the IQ to adapt.

Yes, it seems that George will have to try very hard in the rematch to win over Haney, but do not forget that he still needs to keep his weight, and this also adds problems for Kambosos, but still I hope that the match will be spectacular.

My vote is "Devin Haney Decision". I think everyone is voting on that outcome and there's no doubt that would happen. Kambasos has the power, but as long as Haney will not allow getting hit, then most likely the outcome will be the same as the previous match.

It happen earlier than expected, well, I think this is not fun to watch unless Kambosos has something that will surprise Haney and will upset the champion. The first fight was obviously a one-sided fight, Haney schooled Kambosos and own via unanimous decision, so let's see what would be the outcome of the rematch.

I go for a Kambosos decision in here.

Perhaps many are acknowledging Devin Haney's style against Kambosos' aggressive behavior on the ring, but pretty sure Kambosos and his team already studied Haney's moves and have prepared well enough for this rematch before calling it final. On the first fight, it clearly shows how clueless Kambosos is on what Haney is trying to do, but if you are a trained professional fighter, you will study those moves which led to your loss and use it against your opponent in your next rematch. I do believe that George can pull of a decision win here, but he needs to make sure that he keeps his eye out on those deadly pokes that Haney lets out every so often.

I think Haney has not changed his style, and I'm pretty sure that the team of Kambosos had already studied the fights of Haney before their big fight and yet they had not still prepared for it. There's a big difference because Haney had the quickness and Kambosos could not match that, if only the first fight was a split decision, then I might believe that Kambosos will bounce back.

I understand that there's a rematch clause, however, I think this fight will only make Kambasos look worst because in the first fight, it was like a walk in the park for Haney. Well, I'm not underestimating Kambasos, but Haney is just too strong and too quick for him. If Kambasos will try to be more aggressive, I think this will happen "Devin Haney KO/TKO".

I've read about Haney vs George yesterday, there are some points that I can take for the rematch between Haney and Kambosos.

This match is still pros and cons between Haney and George.
1. Haney, still looking for a big fight, Haney's targets are: Lomachenko, ex-tennis.
2. provisional results based on the analysis of boxing journalist Dan Rafael, not related parties.
3. Kambosos' willingness to bet with Haney.

The bottom line: as said by: Haney below.

If, this topic for a poll, of course I will vote.

I think this boxing match can continue or can be canceled, depending on the decision of Haney.

We cannot blame Kambosos he is a fighter and he was not knocked out in their last fight he believes that he can improve and manage to get a win against Haney in their rematch, if there's a chance to win a title again and make money at the same time, why not make a go for it.

The boxing community shares the same opinion, Haney is an intelligent boxer once he sizes you up anything you do will backfire to you but we cannot take anything away from Kambosos he is a former champion and there's a rematch clause


Australia will always support their boxers so it will be sold out but if the fight is going to happen elsewhere I don't think they will have success in selling this fight and gate sales will suffer, it's hard to sell a fight that is dominated by another fighter.

Sometimes, slow fighters can overcome quick punchers. It just takes that one opening and you win the fight. I'm still not sure about Kambosos' ability to do just that, but I think he's a very capable fighter that can do these feats as long as he trained for it.

Then again, as pointed out by YOSHIE above me, this particular match may not push through depending on Haney's decision. He's up for the big guns, and Kambosos may not fit the description for what Haney has been looking for these past few months.

If Kambosos will not prepare well for this match, he could possibly face another defeat. He should learn how to counter Haney's strategy and should be more aggressive this time because, to be honest, Haney could easily get wild in the ring. Kambosos must find ways to know the weaknesses of Haney only if he wants to win this rematch. It will be too challenging for Kambosos to face Haney again.

I think this fight will push because of the rematch clause, it's not Haney's decision, it is Kambosos decision that triggered this rematch. As per report, there were no negotiations this time around as it is stipulated in the contract of the first fight. The only thing that they have to do right now is to finalize the date and venue of the fight.

Yes, they will just have to make an official announcement, but according to reliable sources, most likely the fight will happen in October and the same venue, Kambosos hometown of Australia.

So probably 2/3 matches, it will be the same results as what the majority is saying. Haney is too good for Kambosos. Devin might not be as entertaining as Ryan Garcia, but he sure do his job in the ring very effectively.

If I remember correctly, Kambosos already said it after their match that he will demand a rematch and here it is though it is still not sure yet.

Haney Vs. Kambosos I is very boring and let's also include the crowd who doesn't have any reactions or chants at all and they are just shouting whenever Kambosos land a good punch which on that fight, only happened a few times.

I don't know but Haney has the same defense as Mayweather. Does Mayweather trained Haney as well because just basing on his stance, they look the same (or it's just me who saw it :D). Haney is long for Kambosos and let's include the reach advantage, good defense and a good counter puncher as well. I'm expecting the same result if this happens so I voted for Haney by decision but since this fight isn't final yet, I'm also expecting that Haney will fight other opponents in October.

No, as far as I know, Mayweather doesn't train Haney, he has Tank Davis though under his wing. But for sure Haney pattern everything from Floyd, from his stance and defense. But we all know that there is only one Floyd. And yeah, could be another snoozer of a fight and then Haney winning in front of thousands of Australians again booing him.

Its pretty boring that its sort of luck that judge give him got more points end the end. If nothing changes it will be boring as well. 50/50 for me.
But because this is going to happen in Australia. Haney will have  to do more than just avoid getting hit and keeping distance. Its either Kamboso will KO him or Haney wins by points again.

I would have agreed with Arum that Kambosos fight another opponent first before facing Haney once again. That would have refreshed him a bit before fighting once more against the only man that beat him. But this is his decision. I hope he and his team has already studied his bad loss in the hands of Haney and devised plans and strategies to counter Haney's style.

The first match was a boring domination of Haney. Kambosos only got 2-4 rounds. He was apparently helpless in that match. He couldn't get inside. I hope he will be able to bring the fight on against Haney in this rematch and take the undisputed title.

He wants to avenge his losses immediately, he cannot wait so let's see if he had already figured out how to win. It's hard to beat Haney due to his defensive technique, he is like Mayweather but if Kambosos really found the formula, it should not be a problem winning the fight. Hopefully we will not get bored again regardless of the outcome.

Yeah, probably this is one of the reason why he chooses to go on a revenge match against Haney. His pride and ego take the best of him so he immediately jump on the gun, and activated the rematch clause. Arum could only advise Kambosos, the decision is still with George and for him this is the right decision. So I'm expecting another trash talk in the press conference. Not sure how George will response since he lost the first fight already as he also has a loud and big mouth.

This is a perfect opportunity for Kambosos to take revenge and prove that he is still worth it. Having another fight is actually a good strategy in preparation for the real goal. Haney made a good defensive style on their previous match, maybe Kambosos already find the solution to counter this one and be more active in the ring. We will see that and Kambosos should not disappoint again this time, there's still time to prepare.

Kambosos wants to focus, if he will fight another boxer, he has to study the style of that certain boxer, so it's better if he will just fight Haney as he is already familiar with his style, it's still fresh on him and that motivation is on him trying to bounce back after a very embarrassing loss.

That is what I also thought but I just recently found out that Mayweather Jr. is also training Devin Haney even if he's not under his promotional banner, but yes, Tank Davis is the one that is Mayweather's legitimate lightweight fighter and the one under his promotional banner.

Source (https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/mayweather-explains-why-hes-training-devin-haney/149638)

But I think that Haney's style has been like that even before Mayweather is training him, and it's no secret that Haney is really copying Mayweather's moves because the latter is also good in terms of defense and counter punches.

Honestly, I like Kambosos' determination and character its admirable, he sacrificed a lot in honor of his country Australia, but Haney is one boxer that is technically superior in his skills, he likes to dominate the fight not very aggressive he has science behind all his moves, he is the next Mayweather, can hit and not get hit knows how to adapt change gear on every opponent he fought, I just don't know what kind of adjustment Kambosos will do even though he promised to show a different Kambosos.
So far the majority are in Haney's favor because obviously, he is the superior fighter.

If Kambosos is winning this fight, I think we can call lightweight division is full of manipulation and roller coaster since there's many boxer which only fought for single match can take 3-4 belts from his opponents lol.

The first is Lopez, the second is Kambosos, now the third is Haney. I'm not sure how many fights needed for Haney to prove if he's deserve to become undisputed champion, but I hope he will fight against both Lomachenko and Tank.

I believe he is already an undisputed champion, the only reason why the rematch happened is because of a rematch clause that are in the contract, so it's more like a legal obligation for Haney to do it.

That time will probably come, who knows.

For Haney to be called undisputed, he needs to clean up the division as you have said, beat Kambosos again, then Tank and then Loma which for me is still the best in this division despite the lack of fight because of what is going on in his native land.

So if he can do that, then no doubt he can surpassed Loma and then defend the belt for those upcoming fighters. And as others have speculated, this is another win for him as the fight will be the same as the first one.

That's because Kambosos believe that he can come up with a better plan this time I am a follower of his page and he is very determine to get back his lost title


It's his privilege and right because it's in the contract as long as it will gain support on PPV and gate, Bob Arum is right he should fight another fighter first before he asks for a rematch



The stats and the scoresheet will not lie Kambosos should stop talking and do what he needs to do, this is a risky fight for him a second loss will relegate him to level B fighter and it's going to be a hard climb going to the top again, I don't expect much on this fight it will likely start where it ended, Haney waiting for him to come or Haney using the stiff jabs to prepare the right straight.

Still this is a good fight to watch until there is no one going to get KOed. Each of them still expect something different that will happen than having another decision win as neither of them will expect that.

To make sure of that however, if I were Arum I would  really get more cut if non of them gets KOed in this rematch. Because it seem like these two are just playing the fans like they need another 3rd fight.

Well, it's Kambosos who's holding the aces though because of his rematch clause. So there is nothing Bob Arum can do. If Arum cannot guarantee good money on Kambosos, then the latter can simply reject it and then freeze Haney's career where Top Rank already invested. As for Haney, he will not care about entertaining the fans and will only focus on winning either boring or not because he knew that he is fighting in Kambosos' backyard with the possibility of getting cheated. Kambosos is the one that needs to step up here if he wants those belts back. Besides, Top Rank has a lot of popular fighters it can match on boring Haney for marketing purposes like Shakur Stevenson, Vasyl Lomachenko, Josh Taylor, Jose Ramirez, and Teofimo Lopez.

They cannot cheat Haney because obviously he was the one dominating the fight, and now that we are in the rematch and possibly the last fight between the two, the pressure now is on Kambosos on how to even their standing. I'm excited to see what Kambosos would do now that he rush for this rematch.

I wonder how Kambosos is going to win the rematch? Haney keeps his distance very well and just hits singles from a distance. Yes, due to such mathematical prudence, if I may say so, the fight looked boring, but if such a strategy works for Haney, then I am sure that he will continue to use it. The rematch I see is about the same, with Haney winning by decision. The only chance for Kambosos is to try to use his advantage in speed, I hope he will do it.

It's going to be very hard so see how Kambosos can overcome Haney's defensive skills. I mean he has perfected it to core, has a high guard, philly shell and then can shoot anytime he wants. The good thing is that he doesn't have that power to knock out, if he has that power, then Haney is very dangerous fighter.

Perhaps the best strategy is really swarm Haney in the beginning and make him not comfortable and have the distance. So he needs to be very aggressive in the beginning and see how Haney will take it.

In the upcoming fight, Kambosos will have to take risks and try to overcome Haney's defense since he loses at a distance, actually the last fight shows this. How it will be possible to implement this is now the main task of the Kambosos team, otherwise the fight will turn out to be even more convincing on the side of Haney.

I also noticed that the crowd wasn't excited watching this match and it could possibly mean that they don't find the match thrilling. Yes, Haney almost has the same moves as Mayweather but I don't think he trained him. I hope Haney would find another opponent because we all know that the same result could happen when he fight with Kambosos. There's no huge excitement anymore.

He had a great fight before with George Kambosos and Devin Haney took his record to 28-0 by controlling George Kambosos with very sharp accurate jabs, quick and precise footwork, smart corners, excellent timing. And he has a great defensive job, as well as a great counter-attack when the opportunity presents itself.
and if I look at his previous fights I doubt Kambosos can beat him for the rematch even though he is very well prepared, and Haney beat Kambosos to become the undisputed lightweight champion.

Yes, there's really no hype because Kambosos will just find himself again in the same position where he was defeated recently, Kambosos should've just faced another opponent before reaching Haney again because this will really be a nonsense fight where Haney will win comfortably again that's why he is so confident to fight Kambosos again in his own country.

Well, Mayweather didn't really trained Haney because the latter was trained by his father, Bill Haney, but Mayweather and Haney did some time together until now and spent workout sessions and sparring sessions together while also training Gervonta Davis on the other side.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-devin-haney-and-floyd-mayweather-whats-the-relationship-between-the-undefeated-duo/

That's a weird article there mate. I'm pretty confident that the author is wrong. I heard Haney was a very promising prospect many years ago, I can still remember his record at that time was 8-0-5 and at that time the kid was already living in Vegas where Mayweather also lives. And I think I heard of him because of Mayweather and his team. Floyd used to have a lot of promising fighters in his gym, although some of them are not regular there and some are also visitors wanting to take a look at it or looking for sparring partners. I think it was in Mayweather's gym where I found a video of young Haney. And who knows Haney and Mayweather met even earlier than what I saw and read on the internet as they're both living in Vegas.

The fight was not even close so it is going to be very difficult for Kambosos to win against a Haney that dominated almost all the fight, the truth is that it is impossible to close the gap with such a little amount of time so Kambosos will need to go for the KO or at least injure Haney during the first rounds to have some kind of hope for a victory, if this does not happen and the judges have to decide which one out of the two wins then Haney will be the one which will be given the fight.

Agreed and their first fight being in Kambosos home ground showed everyone of us bettors and boxing fans that Haney has a strong and a mature attitude. I speculated and bet on Kambosos in the first fight because I thought the pressure would give some difficulties for Haney's performance regardless of him being faster than Kambosos. This rematch will be very much similar to their first fight. Haney will again win with a decision.

Same here, I frankly expected that Kambosos can do more than what he did on their first encounter and put my bets on his side but I think we all made the wrong impression that he could actually defeat Haney. The latter managed to defeat Kambosos comfortably in his own country and in front of his compatriots, now he wanted a rematch? Honestly, this will be more like a replay and we will be seeing the same outcome and performance.

Haney agreed that the fight will happen again somewhere in Australia (place and time not established yet) and that is because he is now more comfortable and confident that he can still defeat Kambosos. Might be boring though but that's what Haney's style and the most important thing is that he can maintain his record without a scratch.

Yes, it shows Haney's mental fortitude, I mean he is on a foreign soil not sure where he trains in the last week or at least when he arrived in Australia, and then the news of his father not with him up to the last minute.

But he is the favorite on the first fight if I'm not mistaken. So perhaps Haney will be the same here, he will outclassed and put another show and bet Kambosos by a decision.

He lost the most important man in the ring corner during his time in Australia but that won't dampen his spirits, I'm sure he communicates to strategize via video call, his dad will motivate Haney to defend his undisputed title and must bring home the win.

Haney has beaten Kambosos before in the same ring and I have absolutely no doubt he will repeat it, my prediction is he will soon have a career history of 29 undisputed title boxing fights.

I think Haney Sr made it to the ring during the fight, though delay but he was there to guide his son but the way i see it, even if his father missed the fight the result would still be the same because of contrasting style and Haney is just too fast and too technical for a brawler like Kambosos. Many boxing writers wrote that this rematch is not too appealing because of the dominance of Haney in the first fight which i agree.

Why are they having this fight again? it's clearly Haney has overpowered and easily beat him in their first match. Looks like they just wanted to give the fans some kind of entertainment where the fans already know the outcome of the fight unless some unexpected happened. nevertheless, since this fight will happen in Australia, it would be a nice experience to watch the next legendary boxer fighting in his prime, the undisputed champion Haney might gonna defend his title for a long time until he retired.

Hopefully the virtual presence of Haney Sr. will add fuel to Haney because he loses direct support in the corner during the fight, Haney will feel the difference from previous fights because he has to spend big moments alone without a father. Although many speculated that Haney would lead points in each round from dominating the previous win, but the difference in training time of 4 months for the second fight could potentially be a new opportunity for Kambosos. However, the second fight became the final determinant of the dispute between the two boxers.

There’s a money on a rematch and usually, every boxer will aim for a rematch just to get back the title, this is pretty normal. Haney won against Kambosos, he clearly won the match by that time and we saw his aggressiveness. It’s bad for Kambosos to find another might right before this rematch to happen, its better for hi to do more trainings and look for a good strategy, watch their previous match and you will see their how effective Haney at that time. Well, there’s plenty of time to prepare but still I see Haney here to dominate the match again.

It's going to be a big deal for Kambosos because he clearly lost the first fight and this was his only defeat. If he gets his ass handed to him for the second time he's going to make his lifetime score look much worse and he's taking on someone who's clearly better than him. We're talking rank 1 vs rank 4 in the division. The only good thing going for him here might be that he learned something from his first fight. I feel like he's going to lose again.

If the fight will still be the same as before and only win by decision, it's advantageous for Kambosos. Arum will look at future fights that they could monetize again for Haney-Kambosos III. I have to say this could be thier plan unless Kambosos is defeated by KO then there will be no trilogy coming.
The next fight could be Davis vs Haney, I would expect this to be more exciting to watch.

LOL! That decision win was not an only. It was a clear case of one boxer being highly outpointed by another. Kambosos wasn't showing that he is an equal competitor. The scorecards were 116-112, 116-112, and 118-110. If we can exaggerate a little, it was a walk in the park for Haney. There's no point making a trilogy out of such an unequal match. If Haney wins both fights easily, a third fight is not only unnecessary, it is also ridiculous. Nobody would be interested with that third battle.

It is never advantageous for Kambosos to lose here. Winning in this rematch means redemption. It means money. It means Kambosos will be the undisputed champion. Not to mention that he is fighting in front of his countrymen.

What do we have to expect from Arum? of course his interest is always for money and care for nothing more as Boxers is just part of their money bagging position and they are being paid to entertain people but Arum is responsible for the income making option.
this fight is much expected but we can find that boxing nowadays is not that popular anymore , because there have so much issues and negativity coming from all around the place and now fans turns into more realistic sports like MMA or ONE Championship .

If Kambosos has learned something from this fight, it's that he can't go brawl with a technical fighter because he will be countered all night. And that's what Haney did in the fight. And if ever he adjusted, for sure Haney will do the same.

I like the 'ass handed to him' metaphor, and yeah that's what we have seen in the first fight. Kambosos has no answer whatsoever and as the fight goes on, he was evidently outclassed.

I agree that the fight is not even close. And we all agree that the outcome might be the same, Haney to win. But I'm just thinking that this might be close though, not the same as in the first fight wherein Haney was clearly the winner. And if this fight is going to be close, what are your thoughts of the judging? Will it be biased scoring, although if I'm not mistaken, there is no Australian judge in the first fight. But who knows who will be the judge in the second fight. Just scenario going on my head.  :)

Yes. There will be biases when it comes to judging in this fight. Every time an event is held in the country of one fighter, the judges are always going to give high points to him. Kambosos may not win by the looks of it but by points, he will win. This is if the fight ends in 12th round.


Arranging fights is also going on in UFC and perhaps in One Championship although I'm not familiar with this promotion.  In UFC there are also arrangements and contracts forcing fighters to lay off or sort of a mafia arrangement.

Boxing, however, is still a better option is almost like a fair fight with just both hands, unlike MMA where wrestling, BJJ, and boxing skills compete.

It's very tough for Kambasos to beat Haney if he is not quick enough to catch him. This is just like a Mayweather vs Pacman fight that although Pacman has the power since Mayweather is quicker than him, he could not beat Mayweather because Mayweather will just score against him. I'm seeing this rematch a possible same scenario in the first fight.

But it's not impossible if he has a great plan, then we might see a trilogy of this fight.

This is the odds on the first fight.

source (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/george-kambosos-vs-devin-haney-prediction-odds-picks-boxing-expert-reveals-bets-for-june-4-title-fight/#:~:text=Haney%20is%20the%20%2D175%20favorite,plenty%20of%20other%20Haney%20vs.)

For sure we will not see the same odds anymore in the rematch, but for those who believe that Kambosos will win, then the odds will be in your favor. Yes, Kambosos is not quick though, that's given, so he has to make a game plan that will suit his capacity but the main goal is to beat Haney.

I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.

I voted for Haney to win by decision. You will not be able to see the picks of our fellow bitcointalk boxing fans then if you will not cast your vote. :D

I get your point though. Kambosos know that he will not have a chance in this rematch if he will not make major adjustments. Kambosos have to risk everything including getting hit by solid counters because he needs to be the aggressor. And he should let his hands go by throwing combinations after combinations. Maybe Kambosos might pull the upset if he can throw combinations throughout the whole 12 rounds. He's got the work ethic so I'm pretty sure he's got the stamina. And as for Haney. He will continue to fight smart. Expect Haney to box and then hug and dance if Kambosos will throw many combinations per round.   

You still have plenty of time to weigh some things if you decide on whom to bet as this fight was proposed to happen on October 15 in Melbourne, Australia. But as per votes, it's been expected that Haney will be the favorite and as you see in the poll in this discussion, it's been voted by the most that Haney is expected to win by a decision again but the odds are not that pretty though.

Kambosos will surely make some changes prior to this fight but it's already understood that Haney's camp will do the same way too, honestly, I can't see that Kambosos will win this time or will make some difference.

Yup both camps will adjust, there are lots of time for preparations and it won't be wasted as both camps will review all those available resources to make sure that the fighters are ready when the rematch take place, you don't need to rush and you can use those references about how members here are sharing with whom they are favoring to bet with. Both fighters are hungry for winning, both do have missions to fulfil, so we may expect an interesting fight between the two.

Here is the current results of the voting, hehehe.

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Yes, it's just a matter of adjustment. He needs to be a volume puncher and shouldn't give Haney some spaces. And his team as well, they should give a fair assessment of the fight and tell it honest on George face. Unlike in the 1st fight wherein the corner seems to be lost as they see that George is winning. His trainer should tell if they are behind the scorecard as he see it so that he could advise George to let go of his hands. But I still go with Haney winning by maybe a majority decision, 1 judge may decide it a draw, and 2 on a very close score to Haney.

many are rooting for Haney here. but wonder what the odds will be from the bookies? both wanted to win. either they will engage inside the ring, or one of them will be too careful with their movements. but in any case, i believe this fight is worth to watch and bet also. i may go for haney here. but let's see the odds, it may be like 1.0x in favour of haney, which is not worth it if you will bet small.

I'm still hoping that Kambosos will get his revenge over Haney, although this is really a very difficult battle for him. Haney is a boring fighter who doesn't want to engage his opponent head on. But this is of course a great strategy for some. It's just that I admire Kambosos' way more. But he needs a lot of improvement if he's serious in beating Haney. He can't be the same Kambosos when they first met. He badly needs to find a way to penetrate Haney.

He might after all the fight is in his country, he just needs a strategy. He probably will just get a warning if he throws low blows until he gets a warning. But seeing this isn't making it worth it for Haney to go to Australia because this fight is not selling a stadium. Less money compares to what Kam got in the first fight. I think Haney meant there is the need to go to the US for the third fight in his interview. https://youtu.be/8dFaBj4Q9h8?t=73

A third fight will only happen if Kambosos wins this one. If that happens then it is indeed fair that the third match be held in Haney's country. It would be unfair if all three matches happens in Kambosos' place. But I doubt there's a trilogy happening on this one.

I don't consider a low blow as a good strategy. I don't recommend Kambosos to do that. If that's what it takes for him to get revenge and win, I'd rather that he'd lose the fight clean and fair. But even this one could hardly be executed since Haney maintains the distance very well.

Haney negated the home court advantage of Kambosos. He didn't allow him to dictate the tempo of the fight. And just like what he said on the first one, on the press conference, he has the tools to offset what George has to offer and that's what he did and he won convincingly.

I think in the rematch clause, still includes as Australia to be the venue. So Haney has no choice and to travel again, but it doesn't matter to him.

Kambosos will be once again humiliated in front of his fans if he will again do it in the same venue as the previous fight. I think the fight should happen in the US, Kambosos will also have to ensure that he is ready so he will not end up as a punching bag by Haney. Kambosos has to be very aggressive to try to win KO so does not have to worry about the outcome.

Actually Kambosos already try to be aggressive on the previous fight, but his aggressiveness make him to open his defense and Haney using that moment to jab Kambosos multiple times. Every time Kambosos want to punch Haney, his reach isn't long enough to hit Haney, but Haney can hit Kambosos.

I think it's better if Kambosos learn fake punch like how Canelo did, it may trick Haney since Kambosos never did that in his past fights.

He did actually, but it was sort of late already, as Haney has a good lead in points in the judges scorecard. And it was just about round 7 or 8 that George really try to be that aggressive, but Devin was too intelligent for that and he fend his aggressiveness with a good defense and a jab and then hug in to stop his momentum. But a intelligent boxer, he was able to break down every attempt of Kambosos to win their fight.

Kambosos fought Haney's fight, I mean Haney is more of a counter puncher which could make the fight boring if Kambosos will wait till Haney attacks like what he did with Lopez where we saw his counter was effective because the latter was the aggressor while Kambosos just wait till it's time to counter.

I'm sure that they already studied the tape of the first fight but I don't think any adjustment on Team Kambosos would change the outcome of the rematch not unless he would land that lucky punch that could put Haney to sleep.

Most second fights don't get up to the third because the boxer that won last time has more dominated his opponent the second time and I think since Haney is the Undisputed champion in their weight division, he already improved a lot and might finish Kambosos easily because he already knows his game inside the ring. I'm rooting for Haney to win because I want to see him move on with rivalry with Kambosos because he needs some big fight next time.

If Haney finishes the fight harder to take down Kambosos in the same ring then it is impossible to predict the trilogy fight, Haney is very confident in preparation for that match because he has made Kambosos face swell in the middle of the round in the previous fight, so Haney knows every opportunity to hits hard and maybe he finishes it for TKO. The comparison of Haney ability to dominate compared to Kambosos, so Kambosos must train hard to complete the big challenge to get victory in the second boxing fight at Marvel Stadium

I remember that we expected Kambosos to be aggressive in the early rounds because that way he will manage to get nearer to Haney but we saw the opposite as he chooses to feel Haney first before making a move which was his kind of his mistake because Haney has the reach advantage.
But you know, Devin Haney was criticized for his style because it is really boring to see, which was the opposite from what people paid to see and that is to have entertainment but they didn't know that Haney is actually better than that and that he is unique unlike from other boxers that are aggressive.

If you can risk or spare a small amount much better to wait when the fight is ongoing there are additional options instead of risking using ML, If the odd is something like that it's not worth the risk unless you will put a huge amount of bet and enjoy decent winning if Haney will win the fight. If you think Haney will win and if there's an option for what rounds or what kind of result, most of the time that kind of additional betting odd are available during the fight.

It is already expected that Haney will be favored one to win and I anticipate that he will be the bookie's favorite as well on this fight but for the odds, Haney by a decision won't be that pretty though and I bet that the win by a KO/TKO will be the ones with a tempting odds but in reality, that chance is somehow slim judging Haney's style against Kambosos.

Yes, even in the first fight, smart money went to Haney, but for those who are looking for a huge odds goes to Kambosos. And so in the case, the smart bettors won, although the odds are very slim, but if you throw good amount so why not?

And so the odds will be the say, I'm also not seeing any knockouts in this fight. Haney's style is to wear down George till the late rounds and then him scoring points on judges scorecard.

Yes, the rematch will happen in Australia. Kambosos will still be fighting in front of his countrymen. If he is going to be humiliated once again, it would be very painful for him. But I guess fighting in his home country is much more advantageous to him than fighting in the US. That would be Haney's country. He is already an underdog in whatever way we look at it so it would somehow add to his favor that he is fighting in a place he is comfortable. After all Haney performed well even if he's fighting in Kambosos' land.

Well he did fight Lopez in the US if I'm not mistaken, beat him bad and takes all the belt. And he really humiliated Lopez that time because Teo just beat Loma, consensus pound for pound. But we all know that George didn't even win his first defense because he chooses a fighter that is very difficult to beat because of their contrasting style. As the saying goes, style makes fight and this is the pure definition of it. And if even Kambosos lose again (majority of us thinks he will), then probably his win is a stroke of luck.

There is indeed a high chance that we will likely see a replay where Kambosos will be humiliated again in their upcoming rematch, I think it's still too early to have a rematch. IMO, Kambosos should just fight someone in the same division before reaching for a rematch because we can't really expect that there will be some changes right after.

Their fight is set for October 15 in Melbourne, Australia but this time in a different stadium. Haney has the power to have the rematch in the US because it's not written in their rematch clause that the 2nd fight will still be at Kambosos homeland but Haney is not worried because he knows that Kambosos will lose his face in the 2nd time in his own backyard.

Betting for Kambosos that time is not a bad idea either because the odds are somehow slightly different compared to Haney, it may be small but still better because Kambosos really had what it takes to defeat the latter but unfortunately, he didn't made it to the end because Haney was more smart than him.

This time, same fight same result, I think. But betting for Kambosos again won't still be a bad idea because whenever know, he might make it this time as upset is always possible no matter how slim it is. A chance is still a chance.

Perhaps he thinks that this is the perfect time to ask for a rematch, if he fights someone and maybe Haney lost to whoever he fights next, the chances for Kambosos to have that belt again is very slim. So he jump ride ahead and exercise the rematch clause in which Haney has no choice. But as we have anticipated, Haney will still used his jabs and then his defensive skills to have George frustrated again, same strategy, same results.

So far there are only 4 who voted for Kambosos out of 24 that cast their votes in the survey. I am thinking what's the analysis of those 4 Kambosos voters? I voted for Haney due to his skills but I'm also happy if ever Kambosos wins because it means that the fight is not boring.

Betting odds aren't available in the bookie yet. But I am expecting Kambosos to be at a minimum of 3.0. So it may not be worth betting on Haney except for big amounts or picking a decision might also give a decent 1.30 something. 

I'm not one of those who voted for Kambosos, and I was also curious. Anyhow, if I'm going to put myself on the shoes of those who voted for Kambosos, I think they may have to factor in the adjustment that George might do in this fight. Perhaps they see Kambosos as more aggressive than the first fight. And George not going to wait till the middle or late rounds to try and do a catch-up in scoring.


Yes, Kambosos will be the underdog around the number, and probably as low as 1.20 I reckon for Devin Haney.

I have always thought that Kambosos needs to clear his name and will go all out for Haney, we also all know that Haney knows what Kambosos' position and reputation is at stake. I don't know if Haney can be trusted that he has already had previous experience with him, if we take into account that he can be trusted it is not a good sign, Haney seeing it from another point of view wants to maintain his leadership, at least with Kambosos, and He knows this, he knows that if he wins again, very good matches will come to him and with a lot of money involved, this is something that he must take advantage of and not get carried away by emotions.

That is kind of expected in the poll here in this forum considering that we saw how the fight goes down during their first encounter, especially that we expected that Kambosos would start strong and aggressive but we saw a different fight because Haney dominated him in the fight making Kambosos have a hard time going near the latter. So I guess there will be no changes here in the rematch, though it's still premature to tell but that's my nearest speculation knowing that Haney is always much smarter.

While it is true that there does not seem to be any doubt about who will win the rematch, this is about contractual obligations, Kambosos had a right to call a rematch and as such Haney had no other choice but to accept, for the fans that want to see a competitive fight this is not the best outcome but if Haney wants to retain his titles he needs to accept, besides now he is probably going to get a larger share of the money so it is not like it is a complete loss to him.

Haney is indeed the smarter and has the boxing IQ. Although I would say that George has a big heart as he chooses Haney to be his first fight to defend his belt. But it may have backfired on him as he completely outclassed by the intelligent boxer here. For those who voted for Kambosos, he is the underdog and I reckon that the boys wanted to have a good win because of the oods on George that is why they they selected him in the poll.

Yeah if Haney didn't accept the rematch, then Kambosos's fans will call Haney just a kid since he's not fulfill his promise and scared to lost all of his belts. He's just only defend his WBC belt for multiple times, not like Lomachenko which already have a belt and want to obtain more belt one by one. At least he need to finish Kambosos first, as people who want Haney fight against Lomachenko will happen, personally I don't think Lomachenko will win due to huge disadvantages or reach.

The UK and Aussie fans are different . They love boxing. They will fight this second fight in Sydney and do another 50K crowd about like they did in Melbourne. Meanwhile, assuming kambosos didn't agree to the rematch, he would have been exiled back to Australia. And, I think those other big names like Ryan Garcia and Tank would never fight kambosos unless he had the belts.

*Edit- Yes, it was kamboso who triggered his rematch  clause according to several news sources (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/boxing/news/george-kambosos-activates-rematch-clause-against-devin-haney/dmnegtsg4jwf7vy1n02ysvdi) according to several news sources. So technically he agreed.

It was Kambosos who asked for a rematch because he has the right, no way he would not try to get back his belts, it's his only chance to be a champion again. One last try, if he will lose then that's it, he has to move to his next plan which we have no idea yet.

Sure he did, it was on this article. https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2022/06/19/62ae69bb46163fa8058b4620.html

Of course Haney would not ask for a rematch as he already won, and since the contract has a rematch clause, the defeated fighter who is Kambosos can ask for a rematch anytime, and maybe this will be the last fight of Kambosos will not succeed.

There are lots of things he has to improve to have a chance of winning as Haney is really too fast for him and good technically.

One of the obvious next plan if ever he lost this fight again, is take a rest for a while and maybe go up in weight. But then again, there are a lot of good 140 pound fighters so it will be very difficult for him.

And perhaps we can say that he is not on the level of the elite, sure he has the attitude and hard work that beats talent all day, just like how he upset Lopez. But if he fights a elite fighter with a good and disciple training regimen, it will be very touch and grinding match for him.

Moving up is a good idea like what Lopez did, but that depends on the outcome of the rematch, and though he had no chance to win in the first fight, but let's see if he made the right adjustment and try to beat Haney in a rematch. Everyone is probably thinking that the outcome of the rematch will be the same on the first fight, but since Kambosos was too eager for a rematch, let's give him another chance to prove himself.

He is eligible to ask for rematch because it was written in their contract that there will be a rematch if Haney's camp or Kambosos camp will ask for it, in this case, it's Kambosos camp who ask it because it is their boy who lost in the first encounter.

It's also the same for Haney, he can also ask to have this rematch in US soil but he didn't ask for it because he is confident enough to embarrass Kambosos again in his own homeland. As for the poll, many of us here, including me who believes that Haney will still be the winner in this rematch.

So Bob Arum is being futuristic for Devin Haney and is expecting another easy win by the undisputed champion. Bob said that Haney will get a Lomachenko fight although the Ukrainian needs a tune-up fight first. Devin Haney will have a lot of options if he beats Kambosos again. Inside Top Rank, there's Vassily Lomachenko, Shakur Stevenson, Teofimo Lopez, maybe Josh Taylor too if he will stay at 140, and Jose Ramirez. Outside of Top Rank, there's Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia.

And as for Kambosos? He will have the same options too but he needs to win over Haney. Otherwise, I am not sure what his future will be. It's like his win over Teofimo was a fluke and he only became champion on Teofimo's worst night.

Well, Bob Arum might be correct about his prediction because Devin Haney has a really good probability that he could still defeat Kambosos for the 2nd time. I mean, will there be any difference? Because I think Kambosos might have reached out for a rematch quite early, he should fight other boxers in the meantime because he cannot really handle a back-to-back defeat.

But if ever Kambosos turns out defeated this time, I guess he will have to climb back the ladder before he can have that chance to fight some champions again.

It will be considered a fluke if George lost to Haney again, just probably one of those 'freak accident', that we can't explain, like he just had his 5 minutes of fame and after that he will be forgotten.

Haney is still the man at 135 lbs as he has all the belts. I don't think that a Ryan Garcia will happen before Devin fought Loma. It is much easier to make for Bob Arum as it is all in-house. As compare to let's say Garcia vs Haney, or Davis vs Haney. Oscar though might be the easiest to talk, but they have to go to the network wars again.

I agree with you, one of the things that Kambosos has is that he is not very fast, but Haney is, in this case hopefully and the Mayweather and Pacquiao thing will not be repeated because leaving everything based on a technical fight is usually very boring, And if Haney is going to do the same thing Mayweather did, which is to run around the ring, then the fight doesn't make sense, because everyone wants to see good punches, combinations, and explosive techniques. If this is the case, then Kambosos has to find a way to minimize Haney's strategy, it is not worth preparing as if he were going to fight any fight, this for him will be the fight that can give him victory and open doors to the best.

Maybe the team of Kambosos see that there will be no other options for him right now, but to request a rematch, if he lost then take it and try to rebuild from ground up. It's the only chance that he will become a champion again, although it will be very slim as Haney has his numbers unless he change his tactics and get lucky to hit Haney just like what he did against Lopez in their fight. Back to back lost might really hurt him, but he can go climb back slowly, like fighting top 5-10 fighters in the division again.

One last time and if he lost then maybe go up in weight and challenge Lopez again, I think that would be an exciting match, sure it will gain attention from the fans and they'll be able to sell that fight well. However, it's not certain yet, Kambosos might win the rematch and maybe trilogy will happen.

There will be no hype on Kambosos vs Lopez in 140 lbs if George will lose again to Haney. Well Kambosos can go up in weight after the Haney defeat, but this division is tougher that anyone would have tough. Champion like Josh Taylor and then we have Zepeda and Ramirez waiting and then others. So I don't think that Kambosos will have what it takes to go in this division.

But this is Lopez fight night, and so we will give him credit for going up in weight and then pick an easy opponent to test how this division might be for him.

It's always tough for a boxer going up in weight, however, Kambosos can always try if there's no reason for him to stay in the current division where he is not a champion anymore.

I hope Campa would be easy for him, odds are telling it's an easy fight but bookies are not right all the time.

On the other hand, we can't remove that fact. If the training camp sees that way, maybe they will try doing that. If that's the way how to win the fight we really can't tell if they will try duplicating that idea and see if that will work, though also, both fighters need to consider why fans will watch this, they are expecting to see explosive exchanges of solid combinations.

It will be a disappointment if they will see more running and more in a defense type of fight rather than aggressiveness and trying to put one another into a knockout outcome.

It would be quite odd for Kambosos to not make use of the rematch clause, personally I do not remember a single instance in which a champion was defeated and they had a rematch clause available and they did not use it, it should have happened but this is so uncommon that I do not have a recollection of this happening, so even if the fight in paper does not look that exciting as most fans which watched the previous fight know how dominant Haney was, it makes sense to happen now as it is unlikely Kambosos would have gotten another chance if he did not invoked his right for a rematch.

Yes, we all know that it should be Kambosos vs Loma initially, but because of the war in his native country, Loma wasn't able to do that. So it is just right that he will get a first chance against Haney after the Kambosos rematch to get that title back. For casual fans, might not be good and boring because of Haney's style, but that will be tested against the best tactician we have. So style makes fight here. It could be like Loma vs Rigo though  ;D

At least Haney does not run a lot like Rigo, LOL.. Anyway, we cannot change the style of Haney, he is very effective with his style that's why he will continue to stick with that, and as long as he fights popular boxers and beat them, he should get a big fight that will make him earn big payday.

Haney is a defensive fighter and that's why his fight is boring as well like like those runner fighters and that say "no mas" to Loma. So maybe this will be the same because of their contrasting style. Maybe Haney will try to make it a fight though, but Loma, if still in his prime and not affected by ring rust and the war in his country, can be very dominant against the best defensive fighter in 135 so this is going to be an intriguing match I believed.

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Devin Haney trolling his rival Teofimo Lopez. His latest tweet was only a few minutes after Teofimo's win and many noticed it right away, especially ESPN's ringside commentators of the fight. I love it. Keep the heat going on. At least Haney walks the talk and is an undisputed champ, unlike Ryan Garcia who only owns social media belts. But Haney should not look past Kambosos though as that ex-champ has nothing to lose and might go all in their rematch.

That's funny, well, I guess Haney has to move up in weight so he will be able to fight Lopez, but even if that would not happen, it's still okay because Lopez is not a champion why Haney is an undefeated champion, in a rematch against Kambosos, for sure he will have an easy win again and that maybe he will continue to troll Lopez.  ;D

Definitely Garcia only own social media belt lol, if Garcia didn't scared to face Tank, why did he move up to the next weight ????

Well it turn Lopez is still a big head person and I think he wouldn't change his character even if he suffer from the second losses, Lopez need to move on lol and not claiming anymore if he's the best on his previous weight division. It's already over and yeah, I believe Haney wouldn't lost against other good boxers since he have a fight style which would make him favor on the judges.

That might be the case if Kambosos cannot win this coming rematch, although I can say that there is almost nothing much different this time and I know that Haney will dominate him and make him struggle just like their first encounter. I'm not saying that Kambosos doesn't stand a chance against Haney at all but I'd say that his chances is really slim.

Lopez already defeated Campa by a TKO and if Kambosos will climb division, I guess these two will meet again.

It's not really clear why Garcia suddenly moved up in weight after he fought Campbell but recently after he fought Fortuna, Garcia said that he's more comfortable in super-lightweight division and that he won't move back in lightweight again. Anyway, I guess he will just eat what he said because he is aiming for Tank Davis and Davis a WBA holder in lightweight, so I guess that he will move back down again.

Garcia is very tall for a 135 lbs, that's why in his last 2 fights, it was in a catch weight of almost 140 lbs because his body can't take it. Just like when Lopez fought the last time at 135 lbs to defend his belt, he lost it and then he made the move.

But he also said that if the money is right specially a Tank Davis at 135 lbs will be available, then for sure he will go back down for this huge fight.

Haney doesn't need to change his style though because that's his forte and it might be too late if he turns into an aggressive fighter from a defensive kind of boxer, he already reached far enough because of that style and became the youngest undisputed boxer in history of four-belt era.

I'm kind of curious though like who will Haney face next after this rematch because frankly, his chances to win again this rematch is much higher compared to Kambosos.

Well if I were Haney, I will be worried if I wanted to become a huge PPV superstar like Canelo. Haney's style and zero knockouts since becoming a real champion have a limited market. But he and his team know this because they tried to fight dirty and brawled against Linares and Jojo.

Just lately, it is official that Lomachenko is back to boxing. Before that, Arum already told Haney that he will get a Lomachenko fight so it should happen early next year. Haney mentioned last year that they might move up to 140. And Top Rank has the most number of popular fighters at 140 which is PPV worthy for Haney like its former undisputed champion Josh Taylor, ex-champion Jose Ramirez, Chon Zepeda, newcomer Teofimo Lopez, and Arnold Barboza. And if Haney prefers to stay at lightweight a little longer then he can defend his belts against the super-featherweight unified champion, Shakur Stevenson in a megafight.

Haney's camp knows that, it is their advantage against their opponent so why change it up, better to enhance and add some counters in case aggressive attacks comes up from the other side he needs to make sure that aside from protecting himself he is also willing to gamble with solid combinations. Though for sure we will see more surprises from these two fighters, both are aiming to win and bring more hypes to their respective careers.

Let's talk about the next fight when he concludes this rematch and not to allow Kambosos to regain his title.

Haney has a lot of options indeed, I would like to see him against Loma, but also other 135 lbs Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis because it is going to be an intriguing matchup.

Not sure if his style will be suited up for 140 lbs, yes he can go up in weight, but it could be very difficult for him to match against any of those champions. He was almost exposed in the Linares right. If not for Jorge gassing out and his old age, he could probably won that fight.

Yeah, love that social media belt monicker because it is true, he calls out someone but then it's all in the media and the fight is not made.


The way I see it, that is Garcia's personality, I mean if he could just emulate Oscar when he was young, no trash talking but just wanting to fight the best. But Oscar protege is different, Garcia want's to get all the attention even not related to boxing. But hopefully him and Haney could go fight at 140 pounds in the future.

Everyone has a different personality, that's him, he is showing his real color, he is like Mayweather who loves to get the attention of the people, who knows that's helping him to gain confidence in the fight and probably make more money. We cannot judge though, he is still undefeated til now, so he deserved huge respect as a boxer.

Garcia's height has nothing to do why he is having some struggles in 135 lbs., it's just his body is not natural for that specific weight class that's why he did have a catch weight fight. After that he became inactive for quite some time because of some issues but his camp understood that he will climb in the upper division when he will step back in the ring again, so there he is fighting Tagoe and Fortuna respectively in 140 lbs.

But it is his choice, he wants to become popular through arrogance and hype. You reap what you sow. So it is normal that he will have a lot of haters and disrespect because of that. He should walk the talk at least. And I would rather have the record of Lomachenko with 2 losses already but is proven and tested.

I expect Ryan Garcia to have his title shot next year. Otherwise, he's becoming a joke. And he will lose that fire in him. He cannot fight bums forever.

That's for sure but I think his camp is not that concerned because Haney is now the undisputed boxer, so money will eventually chase him as many fighters will try to dethrone him from being an undisputed boxer. But yea, PPV wise he ain't gonna make it and he gonna need his opponent to sell the fight to attract viewers.

Money wise he needs to work it out to bring more audiences but I guess his camp will not adjust as they are already succeeding from how they fought and as long as they holding the belt challengers will chase them and it will be defending from the handlers and promoters to bring fans to watch the fight, even if it's a known boring type of fight but if a type of challenger will be more aggressive, maybe or it will magnet fans to chase for Haney.

There are still fans and gamblers who wanted to see another fighter to bring something and possible to disappoint the champion

we never know, basing from experienced there are so many upset from this sport.

There is still enough time before the date of the fight, so with good promotion and hype around the rematch, it will be possible to attract a significant number of fans from both Haney and Kambosos, who has a large audience in Australia.

I don't know to what extent this is necessary for Haney, looking at it from another point of view, Haney has already shown that he can defeat him, I only appeal that Kambosos can be better prepared and that he can give him a good scare and worse than not, win him over, although in estros At times I see it very difficult because of Haney's contention and above all I think that one of the things for which he can go or do this fight is that they offer Haney a good amount of money, because everyone already knows the level of both It is something like the fight that will take place between Canelo and GGG, both boxers have lost fights that are very fundamental and many people have lost faith in him, however, as a good fan, I still want to see this fight if it happens.

Yes, it is a fact, this fight will undoubtedly have some good publicity, I know that Haney is the favorite and also that many are hoping that it will give good results, against Kambosos it is a fight that somehow he knows what is coming, and level of preparation must be very demanding, so from a technical point of view I don't think there will be a decision on the part of the judges, but there will be a lot of action without a doubt, on the other hand, the publicity of both boxers must be good, the The business model they have developed is very good, they have kept the fans very aware, they all want to see this fight.

He is never going to change but this also means that the perception people have of him is never going to change either, this makes him seems as a sore loser, not only he lost fair and square he is still unable to accept the reality of it, and the worst part is that not only this affects his image but his potential as well, after all how is possible for him to correct his deficiencies in his fighting style if he actually believes he is the best of his generation?

In boxing, what matter is your style, if your style will help you sell your fights and would give you good money, then you continue with that. Besides, it's only your character in boxing, that doesn't mean it's the same in your personal life. In short, boxing is just a business for them, and for the fans, it's entertainment, we paid them to get entertained.

Just like what we've seen recently, Joshua can't accept his defeat on Usyk. So maybe that's what George felt and so they goes on a rematch. But if the same result is going to happen, will he accept the defeat or not? I highly doubt it.

Anyhow, and since Loma has declared his comeback, this two for sure have that at the back of their mind because the winner of this fight will challenge Loma in the next fight. Bob Arum has already set this plan in motion already.

That's a good news if it will happen, Loma vs Haney, such a great rivalry as both are technical fighter. I like Loma to win but Haney is just too fast, so Loma has to make a strategy that will expose Haney's weakness, which no one knows for now.

Their fight was not that bad and I'm sure the fans will not miss this one either because you don't see such kind of fight often these days. Because after winning a championship, they mostly go for other boxers not giving their last opponent some rematch to have a chance to regain his honor. The result might be the same as the last one but still, a chance like this could be his chance to further improve his skill because he already knows how his opponent moves and he can actually test some skills and test his new power punches as well.

Many are speculating about the great performance that Spence has had in all his fights, and there is no doubt, the boxer is very big and his technique cannot be overlooked, which has been very effective, and many boxers take this into account. that they have fought him, also that Kambosos is not a bad boxer, at this point I imagine that he already knows how to fight him, obviously I don't think he will look for the technical part to help himself because it would be very boring and that nobody likes , we like to see the action, the different techniques they use and blows here and there, although if the fight were right now, I think I would go 'for KAMBOSOS, since he really wants to win.

That is also his way to market himself and his fights, being silent in the industry is no fun for sure as most fans wanted to see boxers who trash talks their opponent while also proving that they can do the talk inside the ring. As for Garcia, so far he can prove what he is saying but he should tread carefully about some things as it might be too much for him. For now, Garcia can enjoy his situation while having a flawless record at the same time because sooner or later, that record will be in a dangerous situation if he will fight Haney or Tank.

Might be too premature to say it this time because Loma will for sure adjust in the ring first because he's been inactive for almost a year now while busy defending his country against the Russian army during that time of inactivity in the ring. We'll see Loma's comeback first against Ortiz, but I can say that the latter has a smaller chance to win and a fight between Loma vs Haney will be a good fight to see for sure, soon!

Well we got the answer right now, Loma is back fighting Ortiz. So if by chance he win that fight, he will obviously be looking at the winner of Kambosos vs Haney. Kambosos first defense is Loma, but there are unfortunate events in his country that's why Bob Arum look for Haney as the replacement fighter, and it did good for him as he was able to beat Kambosos. And now they have the rematch and whoever wins and as you mentioned, the chances is higher for Devin Haney to win again. So expect something like Loma vs Haney for the title early next year.

If Haney will take Kambosos again and Loma will win with his own upcoming fight, the chance of seeing these two inside a same ring might be the next in line from the promoters, They just need to win both and hypes their name for the fans to call for them to meet up, both camps will be compensated a lot if fans will call and will support if ever they will be arranged to face each other.

For now, it's the event first that we needed to watch, then after that we will be able to give our opinion to which fighter the winner of these upcoming fights will be facing next.

Not sure enough if this rematch will collect more revenue compared to Haney and Kambosos's first encounter because Kambosos's fans saw how Haney dominated almost every round of the fight while almost all of us expected that Kambosos will try and give Haney a hard time and will be aggressive in the early rounds but that didn't happen either.

Sad to say but this fight doesn't have much hype at all because almost all the boxing fans around the world believes that Haney will still win this rematch and that's also why Haney is not concerned if the fight will again takes place somewhere in Australia as he himself knows that there won't be much difference this time.

Indeed! And if ever Kambosos will win as well as Loma in their respective fights then I think we will likely see these two next sharing a ring together as the fans will for sure ask a fight between them before somebody is climbing another division because Haney is already the undisputed boxer in lightweight and nothing for him to clean there.

That is still not sure for now because Loma still have to prove his existence in lightweight after that inactivity and has to defeat a much younger Ortiz, don't get me wrong here because I'm not underestimating him but he's now at the back of a long queue even if he had a reasonable reason for that inactivity. Gervonta Davis is I think the next in line for a unification match.

Haney's camp is just thankful that their cash cow is a champion in the boxing industry because if not, Haney won't get any attention at all because of his style in the ring as the people will really find it boring to watch. But now that Haney is undisputed, he will be chased by any boxer that wants his belts especially now that there's a hype gathering around that Haney will likely fight Loma next.

There is likely a chance that Haney will face Lomachenko next if things go well in this rematch in his favor as well as Lomachenko in his fight against Ortiz. Also, I can quite say that it's really too soon that Kambosos asked for a rematch because there is just a small chance of him winning and Haney will still be the one to be hailed victorious in this match.

So George Kambosos is fully aware that this rematch is a do or die for him. If he losses again especially in a wide decision or stoppage, people will start to believe that his Teofimo victory was only a fluke. And he will get back into the drawing board again. Mentioning that he won't go back to fighting domestic fighters in Australia might mean that he will fight overseas against hometown fighters which is kinda difficult for him as he is not a KO artist. Personally, I want Kambosos to win to shake things up. And I always want underdogs to win as much as possible.

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At least he knows himself how important this fight is, he wants to push his limit and will try to even the W. Yes, obviously he is not a KO artist as in his 20 wins, only 10 of that are coming from KO. Just like you, I also like betting on the underdog, but honestly, I'm quite disappointed with his performance in the first fight and I think we will be seeing the same outcome in this rematch.

The fight was so one-sided that it is normal that people are not holding big hopes for Kambosos during the rematch, and his lack of punching power plays against him here as well, for example in the Wilder and Fury trilogy fans knew Fury was the best boxer, but Wilder could change everything with a single punch and this allowed us to see some exciting fights despite the deficiencies of Wilder as a fighter, but Kambosos does not have such punching power, which means he needs to beat Haney only with his boxing technique and this looks to be very difficult to do.

Haney for me will not let the victory he achieved in the first instance be taken away, I don't know, I haven't seen much news about Kamobosos, but I think he must be having one of the training sessions to go out and kill Haney, if this is so we could see that Haney's acknowledgment will make this look like they want to repeat and there will be rematches, if Kambosos wins, then Haney will ask for the rematch, and that's how they will go, that's why I say if this is won by Kamosos, it will make it very interesting, without However, I don't think this will happen, but everything is possible, I think that they can do a good job if both boxers go out with that desire to the ring.

I'm thinking the same thing, Haney dominated the first match, Kambosos looked amateur on that fight, so there's no way Haney will lose in the rematch. I can't wait for a possible Loma vs Haney, so I like this fight to be over soon, and honestly, I don't expect that I would be entertain in this fight as I know already the winner.

Kambosos will improve his abilities for the second match, if we think the previous match cannot be used as the main benchmark for the second match, every fight has a different storyline such as the UFC fight the previous week between Usman vs Edward also ended differently even though Usman dominated all rounds during the fight but Edward can beat him with one hard kick in the face. The same is true for boxing fights even though they dominate but are not guaranteed to be able to hold the belt at the end of the boxing fight.

True, there is always these KO punches in the later part of the fight that can turn the tide of the match.  And I agree that we cannot judge the upcoming fight with the previous fights.  For sure, the losing side on the first fight will have their strategy polished, and adjust according to what they have learned from the first fight.  So we cannot say 100% that Haney will win the rematch, we might say that Haney has the advantage but saying that he will 100% win again on their rematch is unfounded.  Let us wait and see the result before saying something not absolute yet  :D.

Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

And that's not new to this sport, though I would like to comment about that dominance from Haney we all witness that and if Kambosos won't be able to adjust in how Haney set his plan beating him, it would be a had rematch for him. He needs to be more careful and needs to bring good throws to create an opening and try to overpower Haney in any chances that are given to him.

Without any further adjustment with Kambosos we might see the same outcome, and with the possible matchup between Loma and Haney

we might see them or we might hear updates once both of them in their matches.

Despite the loss, Kambosos still receive few votes
George Kambosos Decision   - 5 (16.7%) and only one voted that Kambosos will win by a knockout, I don't know if the number is still high outside of this forum that Kambosos will beat Haney, he may promise to do better but Haney is good at changing style in the ring, I don't know what kind of plan will Kambosos use, before the first fight many of us are excited to see the match but now I don't know if the number is still high, of course, the Australian will cheer Kambosos but they have doubt too if Kambosos can deliver the win.

That's normal mate, Kambosos still has a chance to win, and just like his chance on the poll, that's also his chance in the betting odds as obviously he will be the heavy underdog going to the fight. Kambosos is surely training hard because he does not want to be defeated again that could potentially end his career if he does not move up in weight.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

Fans on both sides are really waiting for this so the only now is to wait if both fighters will win and after that the talk between camps will be anticipated, promoters will be there to negotiate and if the price is right for sure we will see this event to happen. For now, we should support both fighters and hope for the best.

We don't want to see any sideways or any problem that will affect the possibilities of their match up, looking to see clean and
considerable wins from both of them.

Everybody loves to see a Loma vs Haney fight. However, I don't see Kambosos Jr. as an easy opponent for Haney. I mean Kambosos is the kind of guy that could go full 12 rounds with the same energy and stamina. Something that you'll never take for granted. Certainly, there will be adjustments from Kambosos camp for the upcoming 2nd match.
As much as the Loma and Haney fight is interesting, this 2nd match is also quite interesting to see how Kambosos will adjust in this 2nd match especially now that they have already tested each other in the first fight.

since haney's camp is already seeing the possible match-up of haney and loma, then, haney should really work on this upcoming fight and not take kambosos for granted. we should always remember that upset in boxing is always possible, and we had witnessed that a lot of times in the past months. haney is obviously the favourite here when it comes to odds, but we should not disregard kambosos' skills. kambosos knew he's the underdog in this match, so we don't know their plans inside the ring.

It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.

That's very obvious, Kambosos has to find a way to knockout Haney, or else, he will again lose in the judges scorecards. If only he is a knockout artist, then maybe he can find a good timing to counter Haney and knock him cold, but that's not the scenario I'm seeing because Haney's quickness will make him easily win the fight again.

Many people rely on Haney abilities because he is superior to Kambosos, but within 5 months of the previous boxing fight then Kambosos will train hard to improve his abilities for the second fight, maybe his coach has reviewed some records in the previous fight so Kambosos should level up. I think Kambosos is still young so even though he lost for the second time then his boxing career is still long and he has had valuable experience to become a professional boxing career.

And maybe just to break the ice in this fight, Kambosos said that he is proud of Teo Lopez going to 140 lbs and winning his first fight against Campa. Not sure if this is a complement or something as they have big trash talking fight in the media prior to their fight.


https://www.boxingscene.com/george-kambosos-praises-teofimo-lopez-following-comeback-win-im-proud-him--168680

Maybe it just humble George when he lost to Haney and now going on a rematch and I will say in a survival mode because this is a must win for him.

This would be the second time around that these boxers will fight inside the ring and by this time, they will be fighting for the undisputed lightweight championship in October 16 in Australia. It was said that the match will happen during the afternoon of the said date and will be viewed in October 15 in United States via streaming if I'm not mistaken. During their first fight, Kambosos was really overwhelmed by the power, stamina, and technical and strong punch and jabs combination delivered by Haney. The record Kambosos achieved during his fight with Lopez was tainted by his recent match. And perhaps he is hoping to win the title back because after his loss, he decided to file for a rematch as soon he had the chance.

They still have a month and a few weeks to prepare and train physically, mentally, and emotionally. I guess the time they have right now is sufficient to condition themselves overall to prepared for this match. Although based on the odds, the crowd's favorite is Haney because of their previous match. His powerful attacks were memorable for the viewers to bet on him again this time. However, Kambosos will surely not back down either.

Both for sure will improved a lot in the second fight, but the adjustment should be more on Kambosos side because he was defeated in the first fight. But what kind of adjustment he needed? that is the big question. But Haney is a different kind of fighter, and I would say that he hasn't face this kind of opponent before that why he was thrown off balance in this fight. He can't used his power because Haney is so elusive and has a good counter. So it's really up to their camp to came up with a good plan and review the tapes and see what went wrong with them in the first fight and not let the same mistakes.

anything is possible to happen , because they are both Good boxer that has 1 punch down but of course it will be the training and preparation in which will decide who will win in this fight.

5 months training is indeed long , but remember that Haney is also preparing and practicing so this is a both effort and skills meaning? who will win or lose is the one that deserves the title .

A good advantage if he won't lose his focus and continue his journey, he still young and he can still motivate himself to keep growing and continue to enhance his skills in case that in their second meetup Haney still dominates him. Though just like you for me, 5 months is enough to train harder and to find good solutions to all those lapses that he was lacking during their first fight.

It's time to move forward and try to reclaim his belt. It will also be a good time to prove to his fans that he's not done yet, and he's here to stay and hold the title.

Kambosos may be silent these days because of the trainings but he can't really change the fact that his chances to win is much smaller than Haney and the latter will indeed make sure that he will still win for the 2nd time around and keep the undisputed name with him along with the belts he earned. No offense for Kambosos fans here but I can't really see an upcoming trilogy and that means that Kambosos will get lost again and pave a way for Haney to Loma soon.

I agree, Kambosos is welcome to undergo to an intensive training to prepare well but he cannot really deny that Haney can and will dominate him in the ring just like he did in their first encounter. Kambosos is not a knockout specialist too so that makes defeating Haney much more complicated. He should try climbing the next division if in-case he get defeated here in their rematch.

Obviously this year alone has been almost full of upsets and the famous one is when Canelo lost against Bivol when he is clear the heavy favorite to win over the defending champion of LHW. Haney surely doesn't want to be in the list of upsets that has happened this year or will about to happen, they should look further to avoid that from happening because Kambosos is surely preparing so much for this rematch because he really looks like an amateur boxer in their first encounter.

I guess that will be one of his options when he will be defeated for the 2nd time against Haney, I mean what else he could do in the lightweight division if he doesn't hold any belts anymore? Ryan Garcia is already not interested in him anymore as the young boxer has put his eyes on Tank next, while Tank is also eyeing for Haney. So maybe if Kambosos climb the next division, he could face Teo Lopez again.

I do not think that Haney has to worry too much about it, if they were close in terms of technique then there could be some room for worry, but since Haney is so above of Kambosos and this is not something you can learn so quickly the difference between the two should remain wide enough for Haney to get an easy victory, with that being said it is important that Haney still prepares himself properly as we never know what it may happen during a fight.

This is the 2nd time that these two will fight for the undisputed title in the lightweight division, Haney is already the undisputed champion in this division because he won in their first encounter and Kambosos is just contending again for the title. Well, I think many of us here thought that Kambosos will at least face another opponent in the same division before he pursue a rematch with Haney.

I can't blame Kambosos if he chose to exercise the rematch clause quickly because I bet he cannot accept the fact that he was dominated and was embarrassed in front of his own countrymen, so maybe this time, he got another style of attack or at least prevent being dominated most of the rounds.

There is no reason why Haney and his camp needs to worry, and I really think that is also one of the reasons why this fight has almost no hype at all because the people are already expecting Haney to win again in this rematch. I mean, people really do think that Kambosos cannot make a huge difference in this fight in a short amount of time. What we saw in their first encounter is almost an enough reason to believe it's enough, Kambosos will just end up losing his face again in the public.

But he had the right to chase for his old belt so the decision of rushing it is on his side, though I also think that he will try to fight for another fighter from this division before chasing Haney but the rematch was schedule and it means that he wanted to try again, thinking that he might win and reclaim his title. We never know whatever his camp is planning, but if they think that he's really capable, it will be decided inside the ring.


He needs to improve his fighting strategy, that humiliation happened in front of his own crowd so better to think of something new that Haney will not dominate him again, something that will put him in a favoring side, but we never know if there's a chance on him to do that with Haney.

He had the right to exercise it right away but we will know it soon if Kambosos and his camp definitely did the right thing for rushing the fight, we didn't know exactly what happened behind the scenes but it looks to me that Kambosos was a having a hard time accepting the reality and that he was overwhelmed by Haney.

I agree, he needs another fresh strategy to overcome Haney's technicalities because if he and his camp cannot find that something that might lead him the win he needed then I'm afraid that Kambosos is just adding the embarrassment he experienced earlier this year.

Is anybody here following Haney's Twitter? I like how he is being vocal and at the same time trolling or trash-talking. Last month, Haney was trolling Teofimo Lopez calling his performance like a poor one against a non-ranked fighter.

This month of September he is targeting Tank Davis, calling his WBA regular belt a Mickey Mouse belt. Of course, the WBA belt is not a major title since Haney got the Super WBA belt and all the remaining belts in the division. It's funny because prior to becoming an undisputed champion, Haney was called an e-mail champ after his WBC interim belt was upgraded as the WBC champion after the corrupt WBC president Sulaiman tried to introduce its new WBC Franchise (similar to Super WBA belt) belt as a major belt with higher credits than the usual WBC belt.

I actually like that he's too vocal, honest,, and opinionated at the same time. Most of his tweets are reliable though he's calling out other boxer's performances in a negative way yet his honest with his reviews. Other boxers and fans are already aware that Haney is just vocal at everything. He says things straight forward without fearing anyone.

Yeah, Perhaps since he  had all the belts, he can troll all this 135-140 lbs hehehe. And among the best 4 135 lbs, everyone thinks he is the weakest, it was supposedly, Lopez, Davis, Garcia and him. And since Lopez has move up already, Davis has the Mickey Mouse belt, Garcia social media belt, and him should be the top dog in the division. And if he wins this one again, he can talk trash and troll them all day long. Unless either Tank or Ryan fight and beat him.

He has all the bragging rights, Haney has done his thing, fighting Kambosos, going to his backyard, taking all the belts and then willing to go on a rematch again. So he beat the man who beat Lopez and then Teo going up in weight and fighting nobody, I think Haney is just being real here.

And I agree with his trolling of Davis, he is just being groom to be the next Floyd, but he is not facing any good opponent in hi last 2 fights. Of course, boxing politics, with all the corruption and those funny belts specially from WBC's Sulaiman, we forget how many belts his organization has for a single weight class.

He's just giving back the favor that he received some time ago, just like you said, he was used to be called as an e-mail champ. Now that he is the undisputed boxer in lightweight, he can now say anything what he likes to say to his fellow boxers in the same division as long as he doesn't cross any line. And of course, he has the right as he now boast to be the boxer to unify the belts in the said division.

Going to that point as this sport is more on the business side, money making fighters that promoters and handlers doing their best to make sure that they are doing the business the right way. Milking cows that keep on gaining the hypes each time they win their respective fights. And another thing is the rematch like this, there are many fans and gamblers who will watch and bets which other means of flowing money.

We know how fighters play with their good opportunities. They are here to entertain and make more money in their wallets.

Right, he was not given the respect he deserved some time ago. They said that he doesn't have the superstar power of the other 3 lightweights that time, but how ironic that he is now the undisputed and the other 3 has no belts except for Davis. So it's cool to here this from Haney and hopefully he can schedule with either Tank or Garcia or even Lomachenko in the future.

For sure Haney was a bit underrated in the past because he is such a silent type of boxer with almost no hype tagged in his name because he cannot really entertain his audience which is true but fate has its own ways and with Haney's hardwork, he slowly climbed through the ranks humbly and now that he is on the top, he is the most sought boxer as he holds all four belts.

It will be interesting and exciting to see Haney fighting Loma or Tank in the future but with Garcia? I don't think so, he will be played by Haney if he fight the latter directly.

Yes I think you can say that, but now he can't be classified as underrated boxer anymore as he already managed to climb the top and became the undisputed boxer in lightweight division.

And I agree, Garcia thinking of fighting Tank is a bad idea and it's too soon for him, he needed to defeat heavy names first like Kambosos or Tank before going to Haney.

The truth will be very interesting that if these results are achieved it could be something very good for the fans, I think it will cause even more madness when such a fight is put into context, I would like to see Spence in a good fight against Loma, If these results happen, or on the contrary, if Kambosos wins, do you think the fight against Loma and Spence would take place? Of course I am assuming a scenario where Kambosos wins, and Loma wins, or in another context it could be that Spence wins and if Loma loses, I don't know how good this fight would be, since now the fans like this type of match a lot , as well as that of Canelo and GGG.


Perhaps some think that Haney has insecurity due to vulnerability or something, but for me Haney is one of the greatest, but the rivalry remains and something very good can be generated in these things, the fight will undoubtedly be excellent if it reaches give, in fact I have searched a lot about this possible fight, and I have been excited that it will happen soon, for me it would be the best, in fact on google when you search there are many expectations regarding it, for me both have to do this fight , not only for them but for boxing, no matter how vulnerable one is over the other, for me this is world class.

This was recently:

‘Talking in the ring’: Kambosos’ world title rematch set as Aussie seeks ‘revenge, redemption’


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Source: https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-news-2022-george-kambosos-vs-devin-haney-rematch-date-fight-video/news-story/6dcb708a0c8be78f082239d28d57b49f (https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-news-2022-george-kambosos-vs-devin-haney-rematch-date-fight-video/news-story/6dcb708a0c8be78f082239d28d57b49f)

This fight will undoubtedly be one of the best, if it is this year it would be the best!

Surely, if you're that boxer who just started a career in boxing industry then you will be indeed insecure because there are already much more stronger boxers and much experienced in the same division you are situated. But Haney didn't let that insecurities eat him wholly and instead he made that as his inspiration to climb through the ranks to become what he is now, the highest rank that a boxer can attain in his chosen division.

As for this fight, I'm seeing the opposite view because as far as I can tell, people aren't that much excited to see the rematch because they believe that Kambosos won't do much difference this time especially in such a short notice after the fight. But we never know, let's give Kambosos the benefit of the doubt and see what he can do this time.

And as per my opinion, it was a very quick rematch to ask, Kambosos can deal with another fighter if he choose to fight first before this one happen but maybe his camp understand that the hype for this title fight is more important than fighting another fighter, we don't know if what might be the development of his skills with this short period of trainings, but yes, we should give him that fair chance to prove that he still have that capabilities, he just need another chance to reclaim his belt.

He is still young though, if ever he loses in the 2nd time he can still rebuild his career and try to move forward.

This venue is so wide and a lot of talents are also trying their chance, it's an option that most fighters and their camps wanted
to deal with.

I really hope that this is more than sour grapes coming from Kambosos and there was in fact something that affected his performance in his fight against Haney, if that is the case then we may get to see a more interesting fight than the one that we watched previously, but even then I do not think Kambosos will have too much of a chance to get the win, however if those are nothing but excuses coming from Kambosos then the upcoming fight will not be really that interesting to watch.

They definitely underestimate Haney in their first fight. Kambosos and his camp may have been thinking that they can go out there and push Haney and uses his power. But Haney is too smart for that one, and then uses his boxing IQ to out think Kambosos every round. When George think that he has the upper hand because Haney is in the corner then Devin will come up with pot shot that George can't avoid. And for sure his team see this and may have a better strategy in the rematch. But I don't see Kambosos overwhelming Haney the way he did against Lopez.

When someone losses, there is almost the element of sour graping in them and think that they know how to avenge their defeat in the rematch. But it terms out to be not true, just like in Joshua vs Usyk.

And there will always be excuses if boxer is defeated, but let's see how George will responds in this rematch and I imagine that this won't be any shortage of trash talking just like in their first fight. But the thing is now Haney has the bragging rights and no matter what George says, it's going to bite him in the ass.

George can talk whatever he wants, but we will not forget how he was dominated in the first fight, therefore, for him to reclaim his name, he needs to fight well and beat Haney which surely is not an easy thing to do. I doubt that the skills of George would be enough to beat Haney, but let's give him a chance as this could be his last fight if he fails.

Actually, I am not that interested and excited about this fight seeing how one-sided their first fight was. But since Kambosos is too furious and badly wanted an immediate rematch then all we have fight fans is to give him the benefit of a doubt. I cannot really say that Kambosos cannot win too. I was expecting in the first fight that Kambosos will let his hands go and make it dirty but he didn't and lost a wide decision.

In this rematch, I wanna see Kambosos letting his hands go just like when he beat Teofimo Lopez, he should play dirty and no fucking touch gloves before and after the bells because he should not show any respect to Haney until the fight is done. So there is no need for Kambosos to change big, he's got the talent and skills to win but he needs to impose and execute them. Whatever happened to his words before he fights that he's into a war. He should recall it and bring it into this rematch with Haney. War means everything; from trash-talking outside the ring to fighting dirty inside the ring.

^^ Yes, that's one of his biggest mistakes, he didn't let his hands go specially in the early rounds. And it's too late, maybe round 7 when he started to chase Devin, but Haney is already in the zone and comfortable, using his length so that George can't go inside. So if Kambosos will start hot like in the Lopez fight and swarm Haney, then he might have a chance to win. Otherwise, another easy fight for Haney, cruising automatic for a 12 round decision again and a place for a Loma fight next year.

Yeah, just like before their first encounter, Kambosos was all talk too because he and his camp are underestimating Haney as they thought that the latter will struggle than the other way around but the opposite happened because Kambosos was out boxed dominantly by almost all rounds. This time, he should just take his time and be silent because it will be much more fun if we will be surprised but if all he does is talking without doing it then he will just end losing his face again in front of his own people.

He needs to execute it well, being motivated in trying to reclaim his belt. No doubt that he still has that capabilities only if he find the right strategy and make sure that it will favor him during this fight, Haney though is not just let him excel he's preparing too knowing that Kambosos will try everything to win and recover his title, my personal take is, we might see entertainment here.

Just like what you said, if Kambosos will start early and will try to box Haney and not to allow him to control the fight, being aggressive here can give Kambosos good edge if he will be able to deliver good and solid punches.

I rather support Haney to win to see a better fight next year vs Loma. hope he will gonna wrap it short in this part 2 against Kambosos. So that he can get ready for his next level opponent we all know Loma is not that easy and he would be in real trouble if he don't fight seriously this time. If he shows some great leveled-up boxing skills in his upcoming fight, then he won't have any problem fighting Loma next year. Haney is just improving and getting ready for the real deal next year.

Same here, but if Kambosos can pull an upset, I think we will still see a good fight between Kambosos and Loma because for sure both fighters are going to give a very entertaining fight. No fighter that is boring, so it's better than Haney vs Loma, however, Kambosos beating Haney is not going to be easy.

Well Kambosos has a very good chance of winning if he has prepared well, I think that Kambosos can give a surprise if in the first and second round he comes out with everything looking for a knockout, this is one of the strategies that Kambosos can apply, however we cannot ignore that Hany can see and read these intentions, and I am sure that he will have already taken into account what can happen in case Kambosos goes out with everything to look for him, I think that Haney will be training his resistance, and to resist all kinds of attacks that he can give.

For me Haney is an intelligent boxer, surely he already has his strategy to fight, but seeing how he is I think he has a plan A, Plan B even a Plan Z.


Well, between Kambosos and Haney this will not be so easy, some may speculate that Kamosos has more need than Haney or that for now Haney has some weak point and this is something that Kambosos can undoubtedly take advantage of.

This is a dispute that can take place in many parts of the world, I have seen that there are many fans who support Haney and say that he is the favorite, but in boxing anything can happen.

The good thing about this is that there is a lot to prove and I know that both fighters are looking for this fight to happen, if we put in context all the possibilities that there are, Kambosos may want to surprise us.

For fans in New Zealand there is good news:

David Nyika added to Haney vs Kambosos 2, free to air in New Zealand


Source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2022/09/12/david-nyika-added-to-haney-vs-kambosos-2-free-to-air-in-new-zealand/ (https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2022/09/12/david-nyika-added-to-haney-vs-kambosos-2-free-to-air-in-new-zealand/)

Great things happen in the world, and sport does arouse many emotions.

I guess either fight will be very entertaining:

1. Loma vs Haney - we will see the best defensive skills in the division against Hi-Tech offense and footwork of Loma.

2. Loma vs Kambosos - George using his aggressiveness and then Loma using again his footwork and try to be as elusive adn find the angles against Kambosos.

So still a win-win for us boxing fans as we will be treated with some of the best boxers in this division.

Agree with that, whoever wins on the fight between Kambosos and Haney will be a good match with Loma. As long as Loma wins the fight, for sure we can expect a good fight later this year or next year from him. However, there's a possible hindrance, if Kambosos wins the right, promoters might think of a trilogy, that means the fight against Loma is not going to happen soon.

Haney will be my bet for this fight , I love to see him winning in this  fight to add flavor to His career and with this? I think there will be a good next fight right away for Haney as this is a sure win in His part.
Loma is just waiting for whom to Win this fight lol.

That is quite a big if because we already witnessed how Haney played Kambosos in their first encounter and we will likely see the same outcome in this rematch, that's just chances tho. However, it will be good if Kambosos have another game plan to defeat Haney because I agree, Kambosos against Loma is much more entertaining but if that happens, there's a high chance that there will be trilogy first.

All of that speculation will be depend from what the outcome of these upcoming fights. Though I agree that we saw how Haney school Kambosos during their first match and if there's nothing new with the way Kambosos will fight in this upcoming rematch, we might see the same outcome,. It's all about how Kambosos will perform and how he will push his chance and try to enhance his strategy.

I also think that if ever Kambosos manage to win this fight, a trilogy might take place first before they will set another fighter to challenge Kambosos. It will be fair to Haney since he allows this quick rematch to take place.

Yup, either way it is a win for all of boxing fans out there because having Loma in the equation will make the fight more interesting to see that's why it is already expected that there will be a lot of people who will be waiting for this fight because Loma is back on track now.

But before that, there might be a trilogy in the process if in case Kambosos will win this time and that means will have to wait again before any of this speculated fights will happen.

I don't think there is a 3rd fight in the horizon, even if Kambosos will win. Haney will have to wait for this turn again. The good thing is that this 3 boxers are under Top Rank, so everything can be iron out in cases Kambosos win. And for sure Bob Arum will prioritized Loma vs Kambosos first because financially, it will make more sense to make at that point (assuming Loma will win and there will be no upset). And then the winner will likely get Haney, so it's like a tournament between the two and it's the luxury that they are in one promotion, so Davis and Ryan and anyone who wants the belt will be the last option for Arum, in house money all the way for Bob!!!.

And the real winner is Bob Arum's Top Rank because he has three of this boxer under them and then they have the belt as well. So it will just go round in circles for them. Maybe he can work with Ryan which is under Oscar Dela Hoya, but Davis is with Floyd's TMT so we might see a problem there.

So most likely it will be Ryan first who will get a crack at the belt. But then again, he is completely focus on Tank Davis and really wanted to have that fight for a long time, so we shall see. And I do agree that ever fight will be great for the fans, Loma vs either Kambosos or Haney.

I am not also sure but I think Kambosos is not tied to Top Rank. The last time I heard, he was promoted by Lou DiBella. And if my memory serves me right, DiBella Entertainment is not tied to any networks (DAZN, ESPN, and PBC) although I'd seen some of his fights televised by PBC (Showtime/Fox). I think the bigger issue now is not about the promoters but rather these networks, namely DAZN, ESPN, and PBC (Showtime/Fox).

If Kambosos scores an upset over Haney he is still obligated to face the WBO mandatory challenger which is Lomachenko. But Kambosos can also vacate his WBO belt if there are better offers from the other networks especially if Tank of PBC wants a shot at the real belts. Another possible good offer is from KingRy of DAZN. The good thing about not being tied up by a network is the ability to fight cross channels. The disadvantage though is even if you are the champion, the guy tied up by the network is probably more influential and protected.

Top Rank now clearly has the best names from super featherweight to super lightweight. So Bob Arum can just let them face each other without much problems. Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia are in a bad situation when it comes to a high level of opponents although both are contented cherry-picking bums after bums and their promoters and networks will just hype their opponents.

Pure speculation but I definitely think that Haney will win if Kambosos has nothing new to offer to the current undisputed boxer, Haney. But there's this thing where I got so curious about, why did Kambosos exercised the rematch quickly? Did Kambosos and his team found a good way to defeat the current Haney that's why they made the rematch right away? That's what I want to know soon.

And if Haney gets defeated, he can also exercise a rematch to get a trilogy just like Kambosos did. There's no way Kambosos won't agree because the contract says the opposite thing.

Yeah, it was my mistake, Kambosos is with Lou DiBella. But it seems the Lou Dibella and Bob Arum are in good relationships and they can make the fight between the two very easy.


I think he pulls an upset, he will most likely fight Loma. Remember that this is the original schedule, they have agreed it already. But Loma back out because he want to served his country in war. And Kambosos truly understand it, so there is no issue whatsoever and then they pick up Devin Haney to replace Loma. So in any case, George will go back to his original target.


Yes, he had Shakur at super featherweight and even at featherweight, Emmanuel Navarrete. And there are still in the higher and lower weight class, like Tyson Fury and then Inoue. Tank and Ryan can't even get a fight, LOL. For sure their next opponents will be another cherry pick.

So we will have another trilogy if Kambosos win over Haney in the rematch? Maybe, but there is no clause about it right? Perhaps if we see some highway robbery in Australia, so controversial that there is a huge uproar from the fans all over and demanding that there should be a 3rd fight because George doesn't deserved to get a win. So I'm seeing no trilogy first, and the majority of us, it seems Haney will repeat his performance and then wait for Loma winning his fight.

That's a sure thing, it will happen, no rematch clause but a trilogy is going to be a more interesting fight, which means they are going to make a lot of money. However, that "if" probably has a chance of 30% because bookies rate this fight as a sure win for Haney since he is listed as the heavy favorite.

Well, I have spoken with many friends, who are very fanatical about boxing and they know a lot, they assure me that Haney will have no problems with this fight, but that Kambosos is saved, that is,. he is very low profile, and that we do not know very well what is going on, from Haney we have the information that he is a complete boxer who cannot leave anyone and that he will not leave things to chance, much less leave it in hands of the judges, this indicates that Kambosos has the greatest probability that nothing is expected of him, and I am sure that the majority of bets will be very much in favor of Haney, so the one who can win a lot is him and the one who can losing a lot is Haney if he doesn't win.


Well, if Kambosos defeats Haney if there will be a trilogy, that is something that they somehow want or don't want to do, the business model that boxing has if this option is given is very viable, on the other hand, I think that if you don't Da, we would have a good duel of what is coming for Haney from now on, for now I think that Kambosos has many options to win because he is working hard on his training and this is something that has made him known, for me Haney cannot trust, I know Haney has a lot of experience and can handle the timing, but he can't unload the wow factor that Kambosos can offer.

This seems like the only chance that Kambosos has of trying to turn the fight on his favor, if he let Haney to get into the rhythm that he likes then he'll be in complete control of the fight and get an easy win, so he needs to get out there and try to get the win from the moment the bell sounds, now even with that kind of strategy getting the win will not be easy, but at least it will have a small chance to do so while at the same fans he will give the fans what they want.

Yes, one strategy that they might used in this fight and as I had said, Kambosos was successful doing that against Lopez in their fight, even knocking him down. And when Lopez try to rally late, George has build enough lead already. On the contrary, it was a opposite fight plan for him, he was slow and he started to attack in round 7. Maybe Haney's style is too difficult for him, or he really let Devin get comfortable. And even if this is a small chance as we see, at least he will have to try and do it. Instead of looking for a one punch knock out, which might not happen. So he needs to bring the fight to Haney, not that other way around.

Haney is different, he is very technical and he will not make a costly mistake that will make Kambosos capitalize. I think Haney is still gonna dominate here, his quickness and his defensive style is hard to break against a much slower fighter, Kambosos needs to be lucky in order to win here.

No doubt about that! Haney's definitely have the higher hand here in this rematch while Kambosos's chances are much lower compared to their first encounter. We saw how Haney schooled Kambosos that made the latter look like an amateur boxer, we expected differently but Haney's IQ will always prevail compared to Kambosos.

I agree, there's no doubt that Haney, because of his high boxing IQ can't make that costly mistake, but if we are in the side of Kambosos, we have to think of ways to win this fight. This could probably be like Floyd vs Maidana, wherein Marcos try to oerwhelm Floyd and become the aggressor throughout the fight and almost pull an upset in their first fight. He really put Floyd in the corner, did some him some dirty, (hitting below the belt, hitting him when they are about to be break up by the referee and others..). Not saying that he Kambosos should do that, but he needs to step us his game and throw more punches and not let Haney be in his sweet spot in this fight.

Their first fight betting odds were like X2.5 on Kambosos. Now it skyrocketed to x6. Unbelievable. So the betting gods believed that past-prime Donaire and GGG have better chances of upsetting their opponents rather than Kambosos retaking his belts in his own backyard from young Devin Haney.

At this moment there is no more rematch clause because this fight was only a part of their first fight wherein Kambosos managed to inked the rematch clause should he lose. Anyways, I agree that a trilogy might happen if Kambosos manages to win the undisputed belts. And of course, there will be a lot of big offers on Kambosos should he pull an upset. KingRy of DAZN and Tank of PBC will try to squeeze as much money as possible from their promoters and networks in order for a shot at the undisputed belts.

Bookies know that Kambosos has a very slim chance of winning. It's a rematch but it's very obvious in the first fight that it was just like a walk in the park by Haney, I think fans are not excited with this fight, they are excited on the next fight of Haney which is probably Loma.

That's probably the case on this upcoming rematch and they surely have some reasons on why they exercised the rematch quite sooner than expected, we expected that Kambosos might face another opponent first before going back to Haney but that is not the case, maybe they have some idea on how to destroy Haney's game plan. Back to their first fight, I expected that Kambosos will start fresh and to be aggressive towards Haney all throughout the fight but we haven't saw him doing that, don't know why but surely that's one of the reasons why the latter didn't have any hardships defeating Kambosos.

He's more prepared, and he knows how to play Kambosos I mean like what you said he schooled Kambosos by not letting him to make a close conversion which may lead him to win, Haney's style is more on defense and just throw punches when he sees good opening, but in terms of wasted effort Haney is limited in doing that, and if that will be the same thing Kambosos chance to push Haney to engage with him do have smaller chance.

Haney will just keep what he got and let Kambosos to try cornering him, but the defense will be solid and with his quick hands countering and throwing converted punches is where he will rely.

This might be against the majority idea but I do not think that Kambosos will be idle like that without any planning and change of strategy.  I also think that Haney will be the crowd favorite but if Haney sticks to his boxing style during their first match and Kambosos found a way to crack it then we can probably be in for a surprise in this rematch.  Kambosos is capable of that act since he has done it during his fight against Lopez.

Since the rematch is in Australia then we can expect another pro-Kambosos crowd. But I won't be surprised if the crowd will be booing Kambosos if he won't let his hands go. Kambosos needs to punch in bunches otherwise he cannot out-jab a jabber. He cannot outpoint a technician. The answer is simple, he fights like what he showed in the Lopez fight and he will have a chance to win. Kambosos will become a laughing stock even in his native Australia if he losses easily to Haney in this rematch.

^ Yes, and this is what I've been saying as well, if Kambosos wanted to win, he needs to be extra aggressive, just like in the Lopez fight wherein he was really into the fight early and wanted to show what he got in his US fight. Maybe he was very complacent or under estimate Haney and didn't know how difficult it is to fight these kind of fighters.

So in other words, jump on him in the very first round, rough, put him in the corner, and then throw volumes and maybe one or two will hit on Haney's chin. And he is not known to have a good chin so chances for Kambosos is still good, just one good hit and see how it goes.

We never know and I agree with you if ever Kambosos will find that strategy to break Haney's defense, then the chance of winning is really possible. In this sport, we all knew that upset can take place. There's no favorite that got an assurance to win the fight, in a somewhat underdog may bring that aggression and convert a lucky punch to bring down his opponent.

With the majorities, it's the defensive strategy of Haney that brings him the win and it's now the big challenge for Kambosos to reclaim his belt once he and his camp find the best way to break it out and dominate Haney.

Yes, if the Kambosos manages to miss less in the upcoming rematch with Haney, then he may well win, he is a loaded boxer, but it is quite difficult to count only on a knockout blow with Haney, given his defense. I think that the Kambosos team made conclusions and made adjustments, but we will only find out about this during the fight itself.

Right? I actually expected Kambosos that he will start strong and as the aggressor but we didn't witnessed an agile and aggressive Kambosos. Don't know why he changed his style even though he already know that Haney is more on defense and technicalities to score, the latter is not a KO specialist too that is why I don't really understand what's holding him not to be aggressive the whole match.

It's not that we set a high expectation for him but he didn't do what he had to do at that fight to at least win some rounds. Haney on the other hand may be smiling inside that time because Kambosos is having the back foot and not him even though he's the one who's more on defense.

Kambosos's chances is literally not that low, yes, he's an underdog but he still has what it takes to break Haney's defense and I believe they already found a way that's why they activated the rematch within just few months after the fight. Kambosos just have to get aggressive in the early rounds because he's good at surprising his opponents that's why he won against Lopez.

Kambosos must be the busier boxer between the two.  He needs to jab way more than Haney and give more body punches to open up Haney's upper part.  Kambosos also need a referee that will allow them to brawl more, if they got a referee that is too sensitive for that, then we might see another Haney win on this match.


Kambosos is too careful during their 1st match.  Probably he respected the KO power of Haney or he is not comfortable with a defensive boxer like Haney.  Kambosos is way too cautious of the counter and it did affect his performance.  I hope Kambosos had found a good counter strategy for Haney's defensive stance.

True, I forgot to include that as well, Haney is not known to be a KO artist and his chin is very much suspected. So Kambosos or at least his corner didn't recognized this obvious flaw in Haney and didn't take advantage of it.

Australians fans are very much disappointed in him I would say, and Haney's face looks fresh after the fight, which means he didn't do any damage while his face is the complete opposite. So I will be expecting George to start very aggressively and should really walk on Haney in the first few rounds to test him.

Well he better be find a way to win the second fight, otherwise he will be remember as one hit wonder boxer. Just imagine beating that time the highly touted Teo Lopez. And so he has all the brandish and trash talk against Haney, but he come up short in front of his fans in his own country. So if he doesn't have the guts to formulate a game plan and then lost again in this rematch, he will have to earn it again at this division again. Aggressive, yeah, he could start like that but he should also maintain it if the fight is going 12 full rounds.

Yes, Haney, although he is not a knockout, but he earns points while the Kambosos does not take care of the defense, but tries to find a chance to finish with a knockout, and here he may or may not be lucky, so if he manages to miss less, he has a chance.

Well, there are many things that come to mind, it could be said that the healthiest thing is to be able to place bets on Haney and possibly have a great victory and this is the trigger for great bears that can occur, for me this fight although to many does not seem so interesting to you, it can mean a lot for Kambosos, I think it may be the right opportunity so that the doors to fights that have to be of a higher level can be opened much more and why not, maybe think of a new weight or a new category to show that things have not been given to him by sheer luck, of course this is exemplifying a possible scenario where he wins.


Well, with you I think you are the fifth person I have come across, not only here in the forum, but in other places, who tell me that if Kambosos manages to break Haney's defense he can win the fight, just like that, but I tell you that Haney is very strong, he has a lot of experience and apart from that he is a boxer who has total knowledge of how Kambosos fights and the possible strategies, but I don't think he considered Kambosos breaking his defense, because he would simply collapse.

It's all a matter of waiting to see how he is preparing himself + Krabosos, from what I've seen he's been training very hard, and he's training very intensely.


Yes, it is as you say, I had also analyzed what can happen, Haney can undoubtedly establish her strategy of going out with everything to give Kambosos a good knockout, because sometimes Kambosos tends to neglect her a lot due to the fact of wanting to have the attack all Over time, his technique is much more focused on attack, but I think that Kambosos, although he will go out with everything, I do not think he will go out with the intention of looking for a knockout, for me based on what I have read, it is that Kambosos will go out to look for the fight, but he will try to take it to the 12 Round so that Haney falls into despair and plays with his tiredness, sometimes the best boxers save the best for last.

Yes, and I would say the fans are going to support him win or lose. But if at some point in the fight that it become boring, or not very entertaining, the fans will boo either boxer. Well he can beat him to the punch, and he should be the first one to jab Haney and then if he counter then George should go punch in bunches to shake off Haney. Hist mentality with the Lopez is very different when he fought Haney. He seems to be settled against Haney. And he pull a stunt if I'm not mistaken about not making weight the first time. So it really didn't went that way to him isn't it.

Things are getting more interesting in lightweight as Shakur Stevenson made it clear that he is heading north after failing to make 130 in his upcoming fight this weekend. He was stripped of his WBO and WBC belts which are still up for grabs if Conceicao manages to pull an upset.
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Teofimo Lopez and Ryan Garcia early this year mentioned that they will campaign at 140. So the big names in the division will be undisputed champion Devin Haney, Vasyl Lomachenko, Tank Davis, Shakur Stevenson, and George Kambosos if he can win the rematch.

^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

He should or it a must for him to break that defense and make sure to throw quality of punches that will shake Haney, it's tough but it can be done with good strategy and timing he might reclaim his belt and make his name back at hype, we don't know though if he will be able to find that solid combination to shake Haney and made a mistake to bring an opening for Kambosos to excite the fans.

We can all speculate and give our insight, but it will be judged when both feet are already inside the ring and start fighting.

I hope to see Kambosos solid punches in the early rounds, being aggressive and bringing different fighting styles to surprise the defense
of Haney.

Great decision of a fighter, if he is not anymore comfortable in a lower weight, going up is always the solution. They have to face the champion and the good thing is they are not forcing their body, they are fighting to a weight class that they feel they can give their 100%. Salute to fighters who are honest and do not make an excuses if they lose.

Yes, we can't really take the fact that Teofimo Lopez made a good run in the lightweight and it's actually good that he decided much earlier that lightweight isn't for him that's why he moved-up in the next division. Now the stars are getting stacked at 135 pounds trying to get their way through the ranks with of course the new additional, Shakur Stevenson. Although we can't do anything towards Shakur's situation but it's really unfortunate that he can't even defend his belt for the last time against Robson.

Just the same with Casimero's case, there's nothing that he can do but to move forward and try his skills in the next division, like what he said, he can't compromise his health and the best option is to move up. Now there are many great fighters in this division. We will expect more interesting fights this coming season and that means that aside from the money that will flow, fans will also enjoy the best match that promoters will be offering.

Haney and Kambosos rematch will dictate who's going to be the title holder and if in case there's no trilogy to happen.

If in case Haney will win again, then he might earn a huge amount of money in his next money fight.

Right, for some this is a surprising move by Shakur and his team, vacating the belt and doesn't want to make the limit at 130 lbs.

But in the long run, it will do good for him, he has 2 belts already at 130 and then can chase more at 135 when he is about to hit his prime. And then the belt will be easy for him because the champions will be his stable mate at Top Rank. So the fight can easily be made. Of course he can fight Davis, for all the glory and marbles, but for sure his adviser will say not to look for Davis yet, it will come. Might be better to fight those who have the belts at the new division that he will enter and if he get that, all fights that he wanted will happen because they are going to chase him as the champion.

And Lopez deserve some respect for that! He did not made some noise when he was defeated by Kambosos, instead he took some time to reflect what is lacking, eventually he realized that lightweight is not for him and probably, moving up is one of the best decisions he made. Recently, I found out that he is about to face someone this coming December, he is looking to have a title fight.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/08/teofimo-lopez-fighting-next-on-dec-10th-at-msg/

Some are surprised and that includes me, all I know that he will at least fight Robson first before he decides to move up in the next weight class, I didn't know that he's already at the verge of that situation. Well, it is still good for him because he decided to move much earlier, he is still young and I bet he can make some difference with that power and speed he have.

Too soon for him to fight any title holders including Gervonta Davis, he too should climb the ranks just like what others did. I believe Ryan Garcia is a perfect match for him and the winner will get to fight with Gervonta Davis.

Well he hinted already that he will definitely go up one weight class and he is targeting Gervonta Davis. But we are speculating that he might unify all the belts first before climbing up.

Nevertheless, it seems that the situation of having all the belts at super featherweight will not going to happen. I believed that he will have to work his way of lightweight before facing big names such as Davis and Ryan Garcia. Both of this fighters though might be a problem for Shakur, but we will see.

But Shakur has proven himself and schooled Robson in their recent fight.  Whether he retains his belt or was stripped of it, the fight shows that he is still the king of the Division.  The 135 weight division is getting more and more interesting.  The boxing council will have an additional option of making huge money in the Lightweight Division.  ;D



It is more surprising that Shakur doesn't meet the weight limit.  Vacating the belt isn't that surprising since they already decided to move up into the lightweight division.  It is a wise decision on the part of Shakur's camp.  Better to preserve the health of the boxer than to put the boxer in danger just to retain the belt. 



I agree, the decision of Shakur's camp has evaded the chance of Shakur suffering a huge amount of body deterioration due to forced dehydration.


It would be very and exciting fight if he is matched with Davis but I agree that his adviser will let him settle down on the lightweight division before targeting the top ranked fighter of the division.

We can see that Haney is in fact the favorite to win this fight but if you were Kambosos how you would approach this fight in order to get the unlikely win? And it seems to me the only way to do something like this is by trying to bring the fight to Haney and make him uncomfortable so he cannot execute his better boxing technique, and even in that scenario I will give the advantage to Haney but I think there will be a slightly better chance for Kambosos to win the fight.

Haney is indeed a defensive player but Haney isn't good as Mayweather Jr. in terms of shifting def and offensive mode, IMO.  So there is still a good chance for Kambosos to crack the defense of Haney.
If Kambosos fail to adjust in this fight, obviously, Haney will surely dominates the fight.  Though I do not think Kambosos needs to be lucky in order to win the fight,   Kambosos needs a new strategy to outbox or outclass the defensive boxing style of Haney.


Job Straight and lots of it.  Kambosos must outbox honey.  He must land lots of jobs and straight while evading the counter punches thrown by Haney.  Kambosos must also target the body, any legal part that can drain the stamina out of Haney. Kambosos can also try approaching Haney via different angles, and try to learn from Manny's attack and evasive moves.   It is quite difficult to crack a defensive player especially if that player is good with countering and has KO punching power.  But I believe there is no perfect strategy in boxing so any boxing style can be countered by another boxing style.

I also think that Kambosos should be given a good opportunity, because he is a boxer who needs to vindicate himself, perhaps everyone is betting on Haney but I think that Haney is undoubtedly what he has in preparation and in combat matters he has a great team in his shouldersw also, we cannot forget the experience he has, as every boxer has vulnerabilities, it is obvious but we must also recognize that he is a human being and that he can bring some mistakes that can be seen by Kambosos, and Kambosos has a lot to give , he needs to win this fight, I know that most bets will be in favor of Haney, but oh those who bet in favor of Kambosos and win.


In the case of Kambosos everything changes, because if I were Kambosos I would not look at social networks or anything that had to do with general statistics, because I would simply be disappointed and obviously when seeing numbers and statistics anyone gets demoralized, for me Kambosos have a lot to gain, and Haney has a lot to lose if he loses, so for me this fight, if there is one, will be very interesting, because we will see a Haney who will be very pressured, and Kambosos as one of the boxers who will win the most if he wins, it is something obvious, because Immediately more opportunities will open up for him, he will have many more opinions of business models where he will always want the win-win.

Kambosos needs to initiate that and be more aggressive not just allowing Haney to take over and keeps his fighting style dominates, Kambosos chance is to keep trying to break the defense of Haney and also avoid those counter jabs to make a good numbers with his score cards, he already have an idea if how Haney fought so his camp needs now is to bring something unexpected for Haney, Kambosos camps needs to bring him a sparring partner who got similar fighting style of Haney.

He needs to find ways to find an opening and make Haney to make a mistake and engage with their exchanges of punches.

On the other hand, there are several reasons that make him want to do a rematch, such as saying about Haney who is too passive and tends to clinch and maintain a distance which makes the match so monotonous for a duel that risks a big title.
Maybe in this case he actually wanted to try again even though he knew that Haney was something that would probably be greatly favored now.

If you look at the previous fight, Haney prioritizes distance more and he is not in a hurry in carrying out his strategy. We can see when he attacks and is about to be countered by Kambosos he immediately keeps a safe distance and always starts from the beginning. On the other hand, Kambosos has been carried away to Haney's battle scheme which makes him unable to avoid and ultimately loses in absolute terms.

The moment Haney dictates the tempo of the fight, Kambosos already lost the match.  So this coming match, Kambosos shouldn't let Haney dictates the pacing of the fight.  Kambosos must come up with some strategy that will make him nullify Haney's attempt to dictate the tempo.


Also, Kambosos must not approach Haney directly, he will be susceptible to jobs and counter-attacks. Kambosos must approach Haney at an angle where Haney's counter is ineffective.  It needs fast reflexes but it is worth practicing.


On the other hand, knowing what is the talk on social media and making use of it as fuel to better himself isn't a bad thing.  Kambosos should just humble himself and let his fist do the talking.  About the benefits of a rematch, I think it goes either way, if ever Kambosos wins, I am sure a rematch will happen and by that time, it is Kambosos who will have to lose a lot and Haney will be the one to gain a lot.  And that is one of the function of a rematch, for the loser to have a chance to regain whatever he lost in their 1st match.

I could say that Kambosos needs tons of adjustment if we want to reclaim his belts. Styles make a fight and it seems to me that Haney's style is not suited for a slugger like Kambosos, the latter is a bit slow for Haney. The first fight is not even close so for me and changing one's boxing style can't happen overnight so for me this exercising of the rematch clause is just for the money, result will be the same (just my two cents).

That's his problem, he was very slow in their first meeting, Haney can predict his game plan so he cannot win if he uses the same strategy. I think he needs to conserve his energy, be a counter puncher and make the right timing, that way if he can hurt Haney, there's a win that he can win by KO.

It's either Kambosos become slow in the first fight or that Haney is really good in anticipating his punch that's why he was able to get away or evade it as soon as Kambosos throws it.

And if I remember correctly, Haney said that in pre game conference, that he will beat Kambosos to the punch and everything that George will do, he will counter it. So it's his timing, and it will beat everything, if you can time your opponent then you can hurt him. So it might be the same result in this rematch, Haney by decision if Kambosos can't adjust.

In their first match that jabs really protects Haney and made him win with the scorecards, Kambosos needs break that protection in a manner of countering those jabs with a great timing to create opening and exposed Haney, it's a lot of adjustments and good body movements, if he will able to find that way it would be difficult for Haney to use his stuff in covering to Kambosos aggressive punches.


One good timing to land a solid combination will change the direction of this fight, like what we have seen from their last match Kambosos game plan was well read by Haney, those counter jabs hurt Kambosos a lot so he needs to find ways to counter that plus he needs to make solid conversions, a wise in throwing punches will conserve his energy and might bring him the belt back.

Counter punching strategy will best work against an aggressive opponent, and since Haney is more of a technical fighter than an aggressive fighter, so I would say that the chance Kambosos would land a good counter punch is very slim, he needs to be accurate so that one punch could change everything.

It's easier said than done actually, but a slim chance is better than nothing.

Pretty sure the result will be Haney wins by decision. In the first match, Kambosos couldn't touch Haney, and nothing will change in this 2nd match except for the increase of the KO probability because Kambosos will be more aggressive, which will make him out of his style. Honestly, this match is boring, unlike what we expected when Loma was the king. Hopefully, the winner won't chicken out when Loma is coming.

I'm not such an expert when it comes to what is the right approach for Kambosos but I'm quite confused on how he performed on their first encounter, he wasn't clever enough to at least give Haney some difficulties but instead he gave the latter some advantage to defeat his own self. We didn't saw the Kambosos we've known, the aggressive one and the one who mostly give offensive attacks. The outcome might be different if we saw the Kambosos who fought Lopez, but unfortunately, we haven't.

But the case of Casimero is quite different, neither one in his camp give a statement whether he'll stay or if he'll move to super-bantam or featherweight. He already missed some weight before but got lucky because he has another solid reason, and I surely bet that they already know that. Well, he's already 32 years old, might be late for him to expect that he could chase Inoue in the next division.

Back to this fight, it looks like Haney will still win again as his chances to win again have increased this time that's why he is confident to fight Kambosos again in his place. That said, the chance of trilogy is quite low, so I think we will see Haney vs Loma next.

It was something that had to be done because when he followed the tempo that Haney did in the later fight then the result would definitely be the same as their first fight.
Haney is a boxer who is quite smart in his strategy and for sure this is troublesome and Kambosos will have to face that again although I still think that this will again belong to Haney for now.

When he really wants to maximize the KO in this fight, the thing he has to do is clearly more difficult but indeed this is a choice because if he forces a fight with decisions then Haney is clearly the favorite.
In the first fight Haney already knew that Kambosos would play with speed so he held back a little, it was not impossible that he would also do something like this again in the second fight.

Kambosos better not aim for a single big shot to KO Haney. Haney knows that Kambosos will try to unleash everything in this rematch so I am expecting the young champion to become more careful which can make this rematch more boring. But if Kambosos can impose his style like what he did on Teofimo then maybe we can see a better fight than the first one. 

There is no escaping for the winner of this fight because Lomachenko is the WBO mandatory. Haney also mentioned that he wants Lomachenko. Should Kambosos wins, he can vacate his WBO belt and give up his undisputed status if he wants to avoid Loma. But Kambosos earlier was scheduled to take Loma before the cancellation due to the war. So Lomachenko should be fighting for the undisputed belts soon.

I hope Loma still has it. He was actually the one collecting the belts one by one before that injury that caused his defeat to Teofimo Lopez.

Maybe yes or we never know what will be the fighting chance of Kambosos as he's the one who needs to adjust and make a big come back if he wanted to reclaim the belt. I'm not sure about the bookies reference in terms of placing the underdog and the favorite but maybe it's more on the title holder and for Kambosos fans they might get better odd on this fight.


I also hope that he will be bringing that IQ inside the ring when he wins this one up and chase for the title belt match. Either Haney or Kambosos, it's not a problem for Loma, as he is chasing for another run to collect all the belts in this division he will be preparing and will try everything to succeed.

On the contrary, I suspect that he might be looking for a single shot, or at least a punch that will put Haney down just like in the Lopez fight. He needs to have that kind of performance against Haney. Because as you have said, he can't out jab a jabber, so he better change his approach in the rematch. He needed fire, in the Lopez fight you can see in his eyes, in every interview how hungry he is and how he wants to take the head of Lopez. But against Haney he seems to lost that one or not imposed the psy war or trash talking.

Most probably because that's his best chance of winning the fight, a single shot that would hurt Haney that could lead to a KO victory, it's hard to imagine he will win like that but if he is lucky, then we will see that one happening. Kambosos is eager to get back his belts that's why he did not wait for a long time to ask for a rematch.

I don't think the Kambosos team will go after a lucky punch this time around. They must have known very well that their fighter is not a knockout artist. Even Kambosos himself must be aware that his punch is not that strong that it only takes one lucky hit for his opponent to fall and never get up. It's going to be a funny strategy if that's what they are after. I think the Kambosos team will devise a plan to force Haney to into a brawl.

Of course, Haney's win is not guaranteed yet but based on what we saw and their abilities, we can somehow speculate that Haney still have the higher hand this time. We don't know yet what will Kambosos do this time, but I know they have some plan because they wouldn't activate the rematch clause in just mere months after the fight if they didn't figure out something.
As for the betting side, Haney might be the favorite too but I think his odds compared to the underdog is not that far.

The odds for Haney is high to win in this rematch, we have seen the Kambosos struggles against a fighter that has good defense. He can't even land a good punch on Haney in their first fight, what makes it different in the second? If he will adjust in the rematch, so is Haney. And being one of the best ring IQ, Haney can play chess match and anticipate George next move in this second fight.

So most likely, the outcome will be the same, all judges awarding Haney the scores and Haney will opt to move up and not face Lomachenko. Or if he wanted the experience then fight him next year.

It's not yet guaranteed, any fights there is a chance of upset. But boxers who lost an upset either didn't trained hard or something that will affect them like injuries that is not reported. Haney is very much healthy and his team is solid including his father. Remember that his father almost not made it to Australia because of strict visa issuance. Nevertheless they were able to get through red tape and bureaucratic processes and for sure this won't be an issue on the second fight. So Haney is more focus right now to defend his belt again in Australia and go home with the belt again.

I agree! It was evident that Kambosos was indeed having a hard time against Haney and even his punches won't get through because the latter has a good tight defense. We are not underestimating Kambosos here but when he is sharing a ring with Haney, the latter makes him looks like an amateur boxing who don't know what to do, that's how good Haney is. He might be boring to watch but we cannot really argue that his style is good.

That's the sad truth, maybe we think that Kambasos will make an adjustment but for sure Haney will also make an adjustment and he will be ready with Haney's game plan. This is one of the rematch fights that fans think the outcome will be the same on the first fight.

Boxers camp will anticipate any changes with their opponents they will keep on reviewing the fights and look for any flow that they can take the advantages, we anticipate that Kambosos will adjust but for sure Haney will not be stagnant, he will also adjust and make sure that he is prepared in protecting the belts that he has, It's not an easy rematch for both of them, expect that the fans will love seeing the adjustment and how they will execute new fighting strategy to try winning the fight.

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Since these guys are rivals and potential opponents of Haney and Kambosos I'll post it here. Ryan Garcia got jokes. I'm not a Ryan Garcia fan but I know that he's got a lot of fans even if he is not yet a world champion. But I have to admit that I laugh hard at KingRy's tweet. :D It was obvious last weekend that Shakur Stevenson really wanted to stop his opponent and he even resorted to some dirty tricks.

Shakur will surely get his title fight next year against either Loma, Haney, or Kambosos. But what about Ryan Garcia and Tank? :D

I agree, if Kambosos aim for a single big shot KO, the fight would only end up like their first match.  Instead, Kambosos must rely on the more volume of punches to out-punch and outscore Haney.  With the defensive style of Haney, It would be difficult to find an opening and execute that 1 punch KO.


True, I think Bob Arum had promised or stated that the next fight for Loma is a title fight and at this moment, there is only one person who holds all the title in the division and that is Haney.  So whoever wins between the two will probably face Lomachenco next year.


Well, let us wait and see his coming fight if he still has all those skills and abilities.  I am also intrigued by some rumors that Haney is evading Loma because Loma knows how to break Haney's defense.  And if ever Kambosos win, that would be better because we will be seeing a more offense-oriented match.

Yes, there is and even if that chances are small, upset is always an upset. But boxers who lost a fight doesn't mean that they didn't train well or they have some injuries that they didn't disclose, sometimes or most of the time these boxers have lost a fight is because the opponent managed to outbox them, or their power and speed is really different that's why a win is almost impossible thing to do.

It's just like Inoue and Butler, the latter's chances in winning a fight against the monster is not high enough and probably won't be higher even if he will be given a 2-month head start to train. Anyway, back at this fight, Haney truly have the higher hand and they even knew that fact that's why they didn't bother to move the fight in US because they know that there's a high chance that Kambosos will be embarrassed again in front of his own people.

It's a championship fight but it's a clear mismatch, but there's nothing we can do about it, at least we see this than nothing at all. The most interesting fight here is the Haney vs Kambosos, because we don't know what Kambosos's are planning here and he wanted the rematch immediately.

Well, I don't expect much as I believe on what majority are thinking here, this could be the same walk in the park fight again.

Speaking of Ryan Garcia, and since you mentioned Tank, he detailed a club confrontation with Tank Davis:


https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-describes-altercation-with-tank-club-says-he-just-wanted-seem-tough--169381

Just another funny story between this two, hopefully we can really see them in the ring together. Specially Ryan, he is doing a good job building this up.

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I'm waiting for this fight press conference, wanted to see what Kambosos will say to Haney after he was defeated in a dominant fashion. Or this time Haney will dictate the trash talking, hehehe.

That is for sure, Kambosos may train all he want and come prepared this time but the fact is Haney is also doing the same thing or much better than what Kambosos is doing. It's not like Haney will just sit and wait for Kambosos, of course Haney's camp will also improve what they did in their first encounter. That said, I'm still inclined that there's not much difference in this rematch, Haney will still be the undisputed champion at the end of the day and the one who will face Loma next.

I wish they just traded bombs in the club. Who cares if they get cuts and black-eyes and get arrested. Both are cherry pickers. Tank was a legit world champion at super-featherweight but it's been years now and he never fought a real belt at lightweight and super-lightweight. Kingry is still young but he should've been fighting the other top names and champions. I still don't get why casual fans love Kingry and Tank. It's also not a coincidence that those 2 pricks are the only big names that are fighting outside of ESPN and Top Rank except for Kambosos who is about to lose again to Haney.

Kambosos is becoming silent now. Probably preparing for something big in order to surprise Haney. Or maybe he is silent because trash-talking and losing again will turn him into a joke even to his Australian and Greek fans. 

@ inthelongrun - maybe this is not the personality of Haney? He might as well be quiet, but then prepared himself to the fight and focus. Although he is also no short of doing his own bad mouthing to Kambosos, but he was just reacting to anything that George says. So it will be interesting to see from him start trash talking and boast that he already beat him once and that we will repeat it again in front of his Australian and Greek fans.

For Davis and Garcia, they should really fight instead of this childish scuffle in public.

Nah, I don't think this two are going to fight in a club, they are intelligent not to messed up in public. And probably Garcia added some spices on the story hehehe, you know to put him and Davis again in the limelight and keeping the hype alive. Both have bodyguards so I guess the minute someone will land his hand against each other, there could be fight between two groups but it didn't happen. So most likely this story is 50/50. It's up to us whether we believed Ryan Garcia's story or not. Or maybe we will hear the side of Davis later, who knows. ;D

My personal take with Davis and Garcia's childish scene. They are trying to engage their fans and let them ask for the fight to happen. I mean, they can provoke promoters to bring the contract on both sides. My opinion though. Moving back to this upcoming fight, trash talks might be used to attract possible viewers aside from those fans who surely will buy the ticket.

Haney can say that word since he already beats Kambosos and by chance he can repeat the outcome.

That might be the case why Garcia and Davis have been so foolish and exchanging some words in social media, they are trying to make some hype but people know that the current Ryan Garcia cannot defeat the current Gervonta Davis. It might be best for Garcia to facilitate Shakur first in the latter's debut in lightweight because his recent opponents aren't that strong enough to consider that he is indeed ready to fight Gervonta Davis.

I do agree, both of this boxers should be mature enough and not to go to social media and be that tell it all attitude. But who can blame Garcia, I do remember someone mentioned him as social media champ.

And now that we have a new boxer in the horizon, which is Shakur so definitely this will be fun for the next coming years. The hype is already there, it's the promoters and their network that can be the stumbling block.

That's the big factor. Promoters will take advantage of this noise and they can easily convert a good amount of profits once they settle and negotiate a good deal. Expect that the hypes will continue while working with the contracts. The benefactors of these social media hypes always reflect with the ticket sales. They always wanted to make sure that fans will be engaged. Social media channels are very useful for every event. They really make things in promoting the upcoming event.

Nothing to will change as the strategy keeps gaining more attentions and creating impacts.

Again, it boils down to business, Ryan has a lot of followers, casual fans and even not a fan of boxing, and same with Davis. So it make sense for him to be quite a story teller and make it as big as he can, again, hype and to make money if in the future, they are going to face each other. Yes, promoters and network might pose a problem, but if they know that they are going to make huge profits then they will step aside all their differences.

If Shakur joins the fun, then so be it, but so far he is not bad mouthing anyone, except calling Tank Davis and looking forward to fight Haney and Loma.

As usual, that's typical Ryan Garcia and he's been so noisy in the social media lately while trying to bait Tank Davis to have a fight with him, Garcia should be careful this time because he might get what he asked for and Tank Davis might give him his first defeat. Garcia might be depressed again and his mental problems will get worse.


I agree, the lightweight division is quite stacked with potential great boxers and it's an advantageous to our side because we will see great fights in the years and months to come.

I don't know if it will be a very hasty decision for Kambosos to go out with everything to hit Haney or looking for a possible knockout, but this is a surprising factor that Haney has surely taken into account this type of strategy for his part and it is com They say it, for me if Haney manages to position himself in his comfort zone, it is very likely that Kambosos will be lost in the fight, and I think that all the fans and many of us want Kambosos and Haney to achieve the long-awaited trilogy, for Haney it is the time to kill that possibility, but not for Kambosos, and I think that this fight is more beneficial for Kambosos because it is raising more speculations, causing the betting houses to burst with all the requests.


Well, it is well known that if this was leaked through social networks it is something that cannot be controlled, and that it will be a trend, for me these types of things when they reach social networks tend to generate much more attention, everyone talk about that, the bettors will start with their "pique" and will be able to make all kinds of speculations, the fact that a third party gives their opinion and challenges, and says what it helps, that is food for many, social networks are very good for any type of information, but in turn with inadequate treatment it can turn out to be worse and at the same time destructive, more for boxers.


And it's also how you say it, so far it hasn't started, but it won't take long to be able to interact and participate, there was a lot of talk about Shakur vs. Loma, it's something that can't be avoided, if we go to a context where everything can be generated through the nets it itches and spreads. also everything that has to do with the business model is something that nobody loses sight of, boxing is a sport that generates money in a matter of seconds, that's why the participation of Ryan García and Gervonta DAVIS (I don't blame him), this It will be, without a doubt, one of the things that will keep all the fans glued to social networks waiting for new news. Personally, I don't know much about social networks, but I think that keeping an eye on twitter wouldn't be a bad idea.

It's a money magnet that will bring more engagement as far as i understand the concept, A free way of advertising future fights just by letting fighter's throwing words against another fighter that they wanted to challenge, once a smoke start the social media will bring more and fire it up.

A perfect timing for promoters to negotiate and, if by chance, they will ride with it and create more noise to bring additional people to
keep the hype up.

Very interesting that Haney told the media that is favoring Ryan Garcia over Tank Davis if ever they will face each other in the ring.


https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-favors-ryan-garcia-over-gervonta-davis--169423

Or maybe he thinks he has better chances again Ryan against Tank Davis? Or it's that Ryan physically more bigger and faster, but we've seen tank fight taller fighter like Barrios and he was able to break him down.

But he also says what we all know already, that this fight will be difficult to make because of their promotions and the network affiliations.

I think Ryan Garcia is similar with Rolando Romero which a boxer that's have been beaten by Tank, so if Ryan vs Tank will happen I expect Tank will win here. Ryan is just relying on his physical appearance and he will try to knocking down Tank, but Tank is a technical boxer just like Haney, he can outbox Ryan. Not really sure why Haney favoring Ryan, maybe he just want to gain popularity considering most people are favoring Tank.

Both of them seems to be silent and they don't have any plan to fight against other boxers, perhaps they're want to bulking and move to next weight.

But Ryan Garcia has the upper hand if he will be compared to Rolando Romero, the latter is too raw and he just wasted his record by going against Tank Davis too soon and I believe that will also happen to Garcia as well as Shakur if they want to go against Tank directly. Garcia is just too hungry to have a belt that's why he's making a sound these days and aiming for Tank Davis but just like I said, it's too soon for him. Maybe a Shakur vs Garcia will have to happen first and the winner will be fighting Davis.

I'm not a fan of Davis though but it's undeniable that he's more talented and his IQ in the ring exceeds Ryan's and Shakur because of the experience he got. What an interesting division, so packed with strong and undefeated boxers.

I'm a fan of Davis, and also a fan of Ryan Garcia, I think things will be different once they are in the ring, and I believe that Ryan Garcia has the advantage due to his height and reach, and take note, he is also quick.

I don't know what his basis is that he chose Ryan Garcia over Gervonta Davis. We never know unless these two named boxers will share a ring together but for me, I'll go with Davis. Both of them had the speed and power to KO any opponent, the difference between them is just that Ryan got the heigh and reach advantage while Davis got the experience. I think we will see this fight soon enough because their names keep on popping in the social media and Ryan is always calling for Davis.

No doubt that would be a must-watch fight and if ever Garcia wins, he is undoubtedly a great boxer if he beat Davis without any injury. Ryan Garcia should really consider fighting worthy opponents nowadays since he already fought a number of nobody boxers and with their current popularity and Davis, it will surely be a blockbuster hit and adding up with some roasting against each other before the fight, I tell you, that would be one of the high revenue fights this year.

That's the kind of break he needed, beating a real champion will silence his doubters and he will gain their respect. Garcia has to be more aggressive in choosing an opponent, fighting champions will certainly fast-track him to where he wants to go, and that is a success.

Yes, maybe Haney see something in Ryan that he thinks we can overwhelm him. So I will give respect Haney for his opinion, he is the champion of this division and in the future he can either face both Ryan and Davis and perhaps has a game plan already. He doesn't have the power compare to the 2, but he had good boxing IQ and defense. So it's going to be a good fight. And chances are he will win this rematch and up Loma in his table next. So let the 2 beat each other, Ryan and Tank and winner fights Haney vs Loma winner, that will be the perfect scenario.

Rolly though is still raw and very awkward fighter and they are not of the similar type of fighting style.

I agree that Ryan is relying on his physically because that's what all boxers do, fight long if they have the reach advantage in the fight and then uses their strength like Ryan's left hope. And this is what Haney is considering, tall and has power in both hands. But Davis, have face a tall boxer already but doesn't have the power of Garcia.

But it will not be an easy fight for Tank and even for Ryan Garcia if they face each other.

I like that scenario, lets wait till things move according to that plan i guess, there are lots of events that may happened before things takes place but I'm pretty sure that there are many fans who love seeing this kind of big fights to take place not just the boxing community but more for the gambling communities, they are all waiting for next interesting fights to bet with their chosen champs.

Just wanna add though with how Garcia keeps bringing Davis attentions, a good way to promote these possible fight, once both camps agree with any negotiation that may happen, fans will be on the support side it only means that more money will be accompanying the promoters if ever it will a sign contract deals.

If we see it from that point of view, it's not a bad thing, on the contrary, I don't know how much impact it can have on the fans, everyone is considering Haney the winner, but I think based on what I know about boxing that apart from use intelligence, and the boxer who uses intelligence the most is the one who wins it, I think that here we have to give a lot of importance to the training that Kambosos is taking, I think that Kambosos will fight or not, and he is a boxer who knows He is preparing and I think that he will not lose such time, nor will he lose that energy, he wants to win, he can do any strategy that gives him victory, if this fight happens it will be very good.


Undoubtedly, both Garcia and Davis are going to attract the attention of the fans and the entire federation in any way so that this fight takes place, when we see a fight in particular, we like it, it excites us because we know that there is great rivalry and that is a unique ingredient, because it is analogous to trading, when you move people's emotions incredible things happen, we could expect a good show from them.

People expect good fights, from influential fighters, that might have big exceptions to being a boring fight, and clearly a boring fight here won't happen with what they've already shown.

Haney for sure loves to talk but he ain't good at trash-talking. He ain't good at creating hype. I think Haney is personally a little bit mature good kid (he's only 23). Haney at times tried to fight dirty and doesn't show respect when it's inside the ring but that's it. Haney though starts to explore trolling online using his Twitter. :D 

Ryan Garcia is also young at 24 but the kid knows how to hype himself. I'm annoyed but he got a lot of fans and followers. Tank meanwhile is the silent type but he sells PPVs even against unknown and cherry-picked opponents.
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Yes, Rolly Romero is not comparable with Ryan Garcia as these two does have different styles and strengths, Romero was too early in fighting Tank Davis and let the pride control him. Too late because he was already played and was added as a trophy to Tank Davis's record. As for Ryan Garcia, he's still a mystery to me because I believe he hasn't yet mastered his true strength, he already have the speed, strength and power but something is lacking, I just can't figure it out yet. Maybe it's much better if Davis and Garcia will fight so that we will know who's who and which is which, that might be interesting for sure.

Sooner or later, he will have to fight a real champion whether in Haney or Davis.

But it seems that Ryan wanted more of Davis and he said it's because he want to get his respect. He has to earn it though, if he keeps on fighting just nobody there will be no respect. And so he need to demand GBP to match him with the champion in this division by this time. Haney and Loma is the real big name here, not Tank Davis, just saying.

We may have our different take on this one but we cannot really discard what Haney said about Ryan that made him pick on his side because he is not just a natural boxer but he is the current and youngest undisputed boxer in lightweight division, so that really means something. I'm still figuring it out what he saw on Ryan because personally, I'd pick Davis over Ryan. I may be wrong about this but I guess we will see once they share a ring.

I think he is now ready to fight a real champion as he already have two tune up fights where he won. Though it's a real fight but we know his opponents are not on his level, his promoter has to give him a chance to fight a better challenge, those two names that are mentioned are sure a great challenge for him.

Maybe he was challenge by Ryan Garcia and he likes to shut him up. Ryan could attract a good number of crowd as well, so in terms of revenue, there's still a chance that they will make a profitable fight. Actually, it doesn't matter if he start with Ryan Garcia, because if he beat him, he can have Davis next in line.

And if I remember it right, Garcia is really aiming for Davis. He keeps on sending an indirect message using his social media account, it will be decided once both fighters are inside the ring. I like to see if how Garcia will throw solid combinations in case he creates an opening. The kid has a killing KO punch, but on the other hand, we are talking about Davis here who also has that same or can say much upper level.

Not to go far with my speculation, Haney and Kambosos will be waiting for whoever wins this upcoming fight. He will be the one that will wait for any challenger that will ask for his belt.

He really can't keep Davis name out of his mouth, he seems to have a attraction to him. Because everyone he is in the media, he keeps on mentioning Davis. But it's very far from making this fight as they are in a different promotions that are not that working or least very difficult to talk to another to both sides.


While on the other hand, this is the true championship fight. Haney and Kambosos have held this belt already as compare to the two boxers. So still the real deal is Devin and George and to some extend, Loma because he will have the first crack of all the belts that he has once had.

Yes, Ryan Garcia is too vocal about that and keeps on teasing Gervonta Davis in his social media accounts, no doubt that he is really looking forward to have a fight against the latter next because he already survived two tune-up fights and it is indeed time for him to face real boxers that is near or higher his caliber. I bet it will be a good sight to see if these two will share a ring and the winner gets a chance to dance with the undisputed boxer.

But Ryan is fighting at around 140 pounds if I'm not mistaken. However he says that he can go to 135 or make that weight if his competition is Davis next.

Yes, he has released a lot of act outside of the boxing, teasing Davis and all of us boxing fans. And hopefully both can settled and fight next year. They already win big next year, and it's time that they really face each other because it seems that this grudge is turning into personal now.

That may be the case and possible scenario, but I seriously think that Garcia and Davis fight is almost inevitable because both boxers are contesting to reach Haney, Ryan cannot go to Haney directly that is why he is teasing Davis because that is his key to have a fight with the undisputed champion, Devin Haney and I sincerely hope that this fight will happen soon.

Or again they are doing it to engaged the fans and start talking about them, those kinds of personals might bring good engagements and interest, we all know that whatever kind of promotions as long as the fans and readers are getting hook is still good for this kind of possible big fights. If they make it to reality, the profits will surely be huge.

We will see more updates in regard to the possibilities, as we heard that Garcia is always willing to adjust if given a chance fighting Davis, it will be at Davis' camp to establish things and settle the possible schedules.

I doubt that's the reason why Garcia and Davis doesn't want to fight each other. Honestly every fight of both Garcia and Davis, they're always become a favorited boxer and they're not become a challenger. This because they're don't want to lose and ruin their undefeated record. Fight with Haney obviously will make they become underdog and there's a big possibility they will lose. Moreover there's a news if they're looking for move to higher weight division.

Tank Davis is going to give an entertaining fight, so I'd rather want to see it first than Ryan Garcia fight Haney which would only result in a boring fight. Let the man choose his opponent, if he believe he can beat Davis, then let's just wait and see.

Yes, Ryan Garcia is currently contesting at 140 pounds but fighting in 135 pounds is not much of a big deal as he is also used to fight in lightweight division, in fact he is comfortable to fight anywhere from 130-140 lbs. so we can really say that he can always do such extreme if it's for Davis as that fight will be his key to fight the top guys in 135 pounds.

So Kambosos is trying in some undisclosed location and have a interview saying that it will be sweeter this time.


https://www.boxingscene.com/kambosos-it-sweeter-this-time-getting-belts-back-from-haney--169617

I guess that's confidence though, but it will be very different when they are inside the ring. We have seen how he has been defeated the first time. And we all have our speculations as to what strategy he needs in the second fight. But nevertheless, their style is really conflicted that Haney defensive skills is enough to win and it could be the same as well in the rematch.

It looks like Kambosos is well-prepared and confident that he will be able to crack Haney's defensive style this time.  I would love to see how he will crack Haney's defense and hopefully he isn't just all talk.


True, if Kambosos thinks that there is no improvement on Haney's side then he is in for a surprise.  Confidence is good but it should be backed with hard work and dedication in order for Kambosos to not eat his words.  Also Kambosos even though learned to crack Haney's defense should not underestimate his opponent.  He had been beaten once, and might be beaten twice.


Hopefully it won't be the same boring fight.  I am so wanting to see  the strategy of Kambosos on breaking Haney's defense.  I hope those words are not there just to hype the fight.  ;D

If Haney obviously has a lot of favoritism for now, and I have seen on many occasions in some sports articles that there is a certain bias towards Haney, but or we can ignore that Kambosos has many things to win and not be a simple guinea pig, for me Kambosos he is preparing at a high level and I think that his greatest weakness in defense is the one that he must be managing better to be able to combine it with his attack, one of the best strategies in boxing is to have a good attack, that guarantees that he has a certain vemtajka when a boxer is dedicated only to the defense of his fight, I think Haney has been working on it, which as I said before is his greatest vulnerability.


Well this thing about Kambosos is not bad, the fact that you have confidence is also something that can guarantee that things will not get out of control, this makes me think that Kamboss has studied Haney a lot and that he most likely has a good strategy for him , as he can do something if he proposes it, to beat Haney he has to take him to a terrain where Kambosos is totally the dominator, because of the rest I do not see any other option, another thing is that Haney has also seen these declarations and he may serve to prepare even more, only Haney knows what his weakness or vulnerability is and that is what I imagine he will continue to work on.

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Whatever it is, it's still unclear what Garcia and Davis wanted because they could fight anytime if they wanted to, maybe, just maybe, they are still building the hype to make sure that their fight will sell out in case they will make it happen in the future. And I think what you said was just a rumor, we can't either confirm if they're really looking forward to climb the next division.

I agree, I say it's enough baby sitting him because he won't reach that far if Oscar Dela Hoya will keep on protecting him, he cannot overcome his mental issues as well if he'll just face a random unknown boxer. Calling Davis for a fight is a smart move and I think he already have Oscar's blessing for that, I just hope that Davis will give him some time.

More on that kind of possibilities, they are really chasing each other in case that handlers and promoters start to negotiate. It will be easier from both camps to sell the fight with their fans; I see your point and that is also what I'm seeing with this social posts exchange. They are both pro and they are known fighters who are ready to go inside the ring.

It's just a good negotiation to start everything up. We will see more on these two while waiting for any updates regarding to possibilities of the upcoming fight.

Meanwhile, let's all wait and be focus with the rematch of Haney and Kambosos

Yes, and hopefully the side of Davis too is willing to give Tank the chance to fight Ryan and don't hinder about it because we all know that they have different promoters.

Regarding the fight, I have read and see both of them going to the public and trying to hype the fight. Of course Kambosos says that it will be different in the rematch, but Haney is confident that George can't do anything in the second fight that might put him in danger or something.

That's their job if they want to sell this fight and earn their expected revenue, hyping the fight should make the fans believe that it will still be a competitive fight, or convince the fans that Kambosos has prepared something to beat Haney in this rematch.

Obviously, our bookies knows what's the real score, they made Haney a heavy favorite just like the previous fight and that will not change, unless there are significant reasons that will decrease the chances of Haney winning the fight.

Haha, they always say that phrase as they don't want fans to shy away this weekend but in reality, there will be not much change to their styles, and the only chance that Kambosos will win in this rematch is if he could land those haymakers and knockout Haney, if not then this will be a repeat. I'm pretty sure that Haney would be more careful than before to avoid those heavy bombs that George will throw as he knows that is the only way his opponent will win.

At the moment, there are no attractive odds for Haney in my favorite sportsbook so far.

True enough, he should win by KO, otherwise, judges will all favor Haney if this goes to 12 rounds. I'm pretty sure that Kambosos area ware that Haney is a very technical fighter, he has a high IQ but despite that, he can also make some mistakes, and that is something Kambosos should capitalize.

Yes, it will be the same style, I mean when you Haney hit Kambosos, then it will remember the first fight and then go all out with the plan being throw out of the window. So it's very important for George to really stay in focus in this fight and lesson to his corner and work everything under their plan.

Otherwise, it will be the same outcome Haney's confident will lead him to a unanimous decision in front of George's fan.

Kambosos need to workout with additional plans the first matchup was being dominated by Haney so better to change style and look for another strategy that may be caught Haney off-guard, we know the power of Kambosos once he deliver his solid combinations, just one mistake and Haney can lose back the belt to Kambosos. It's interesting since both fighters are capable of doing adjustments, but we can all say who's going to be on the upper hand once they start showing their skills inside the ring.

It's more entertaining and enjoyable to watch if both fighters will engage in a toe-to-toe exchange of punches.

We will see if they will or it will be on the same page way back their first match up.

Devin Haney didn't win by knock out in their first fight. And even though the venue is the country of Kambosos which is Australia, yet the judges give the nod to the American Haney because he really outsmart George with his long jab and technical abilities.

He has mistakes no doubt, against Linares he almost went down and his legs did shake. However he was able to bounce back and beat Linares. George needs to him him solid just like what he did again Lopez to have a good chance to win.

Kickoff week EP 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m965T_hft4

Good to see that the Haney's are giving credit to the Victorian government to have this fight stage again in Australia.

And I would agree that Kambosos is quiet now, hehehe. I think he is just giving respect to Haney. Or he knows that his mind games is not going to work on him so he would rather do the opposite and not to trash talk him that much and just focus to redeem his name.

  ;D

And for those sneaker heads out there, Haney is wearing TS reverse mocha, he knows the game. hehehe

Haney is better thankful and does not criticize the Australian government if he doesn't want it to pay the ring officials. :D

George is better off not talking a lot of shit because he fucked up in that first fight. Talking again and losing badly again would only generate hate from his local fans who traveled for hours just to watch his fights and he already failed the first one by not letting his hands go.

There was noise though in the press conference. Haney's dad presented an Art Of War book as a gift but George just threw it away. :D 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4-4RaZLoQY

Seriously though I think George has a real chance of winning or at least make it close. But he really needs to let his hands go. His team kept telling him in the first fight to let his hands go and not just 1-2 but 3 to 5 combinations like what they trained to do. 

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I think there is a chance if he will take the risk, he should be the aggressor and pressure Haney who is a good technical boxer, because if not, the same story will happen in their previous match and no chance for this fight to reach into a trilogy.

Well, that possibility has gotten bigger now and it's been in the news that Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia decided to have some small talk in a club and afterwards they both posted "done" which brings curiousity to the people. Later on, it's been revealed that both camps are indeed having some discussion to make this fight happen, I assume it will happen in December or January. Meanwhile, Kambosos vs Haney fight is already around the corner. What do you think mate, will Kambosos outbox Haney this time?  ;D

Golden Boy already know that it's indeed time for Garcia to face boxer that is near his prowess/caliber, Javier Fortuna was his last test to make sure if Garcia is already fit to fight heavy names and it turns out that Garcia can do it because he defeated Fortuna with a good outcome and no signs of struggles. Although Tank Davis is a different story because he is an experienced boxer who defeated big names in industry unlike Garcia, but the latter have the chance because he have a good KO power.

It's rare to have a boxer like Garcia who has both the charisma and skills to be a champion, that's why they are carefully giving him some fights that are not really that interesting because of his poor opponents. But this is just their way to make him strong and when the time they finally let them fight against a boxer like Tank Davis, he already learned a lot and has a higher chance to defeat him because already has enough pre-fights to face strong opponents.

So what do you think? is he already ready to fight a champion in his next game? Because if you'll ask me, I would say 100% ready, he has to take a bigger risk if he wants to earn bigger reward, and fighting Tank Davis could be a good one, not the toughest fight for sure but it's not going to be easy either.

I think Ryan is already ready to fight a champion, regardless if it is Davis or the winner of this fight. It's that Ryan is really set in against Davis, for unknown reason, he just said that he wanted respect in this division so he is willing to face the biggest puncher in Davis. However, the belt is on the line again between Haney and Kambosos and this is the fight that Ryan should be looking, if he just wanted to get the respect. Win the belt and for sure everyone will come after him.

Lol, that's pysche war already, we all know what that book is all about hehehe.

Yes, I do agree, he didn't let his hands go in the first fight, however, it was due to Haney length and reach advantage that Kambosos has difficulty. And Haney's defense is truly amazing, good reflexes, duck when George is trying to be aggressive and then throw combinations in return. Might be close in the second fight, but in the end Haney will retain his belt.

George has no right to talk shit  ;D, he was beaten the first time they met, if he wanted to have right, George must beat Haney on their next fight.


The gift is an insult as far as I see it.  But Kambosos should just humble himself down and accept the gift as a gesture and do his best to win the fight and give back the book right after he take a win on his next match.


I also think George has a chance, he has lots of sparring with Manny Pacquiao and he should have learned something from it.  Aside from that he should let go of his hands and not let Haney dictates the fight.

We never know how things will turn out, both fighters are aiming to win these fight and if one successfully adjust, then the advantage will be for him, I know Kambosos wanted to make things as early as know even he can use some time to train hard before requesting for a rematch maybe he see his mistake and he will try to correct that, while with Haney he already exposed Kambosos he just need to enhance his strategy to make sure that he still have the advantage.

No one knows who's going to win but basing from how they fought last time, if Haney still has the dominance during the fight the
outcome may still be the same.

Haney knows what's at stake in this fight, I mean if he wins this rematch then it would mean that he would fight Loma next which I think is a money fight for both of them and that would be interesting as well as both fighters are very technical.

So with that being said, I'll go for Haney by decision this time with a not so attractive odds but for me is the way to go.

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What I don't like about rematches when the first match is not that close, is the fight just picked up where it left off, Haney totally dominated Kambosos and I don't see what Kambosos will do to counter Haney's best moves, Haney is too good for Kambosos he is too good on their first fight he will be still good in this rematch unless Kambosos show something that we don't see in all his fights, the first four rounds is very important on these four rounds we'll know if its a reply of the first like what happened in the Ancajas - Martinez rematch.

Though it wasn't close but I think Kambosos is still trying to find a way to avenge his loss, besides there's a rematch clause if I'm not mistaken, so there's nothing wrong with the rematch, but it may not be interesting compared to the other matches we had witnessed in the  past.

Yes, it is not so attractive so I think I'm going with Haney winning by KO as it's currently at 3.40 in my bookie. I know there's a little chance and the odds says a lot, however, if Kambosos will try to be more aggressive, that will make him careless and that could be the reason why he will get KO.

I could be wrong, but I'm okay because if I'm right, I would go home big.

KO is also possible, although Haney is not a knockout artist, but he has 15KOs of his 28 wins, so anything is possible. If we think that Kambosos would lose via decision, so we are only thinking that Kambosos would lose here but will survive the 12 rounds, I think Kambosos will not let that happen, I mean, he will try his best to find a new strategy to defeat Haney and we are going to see that tomorrow.

I also think the same for me, Garcia is very good, and even if they did that scene, it doesn't convince me, I like the idea that he go for Shakur first, because it would be an interesting challenge and Davis will be aware of it, I think these things could not happen in another way, although I think what they did is very good, we only recommend the fight between Canelo and GGG, that fight happened practically thanks to the fact that the fans moved and asked for it by all means, they wanted to see that fight that eu If the trilogy happened, it was something that calmed them down, knowing all these things it is obvious that things can happen in their favor and being able to put all this in context to be able to achieve what they want with what they did, it is something that cannot be ruled out .


Well, in all the threads and in the discussions I've seen about boxing, the chances of winning for Kambosos are lower, I don't know, but I think this could be a bad omen, I know that statistics help us a lot and numbers never lie , but since this is not a mathematical measure, I think that they should take the surprise factor, Haney is a very good boxer and yes, he has favoritism worldwide, he must be very proud and powerful at the same time because of all the speculations that are very much in favor of him, but can you imagine if Kambosos gives a surprise? Can you imagine the apusetas how they would look?


Well for me I see this as if Kambosos were a guinea pig, and had everything to lose, and although it all sounds so good for Haney, I don't think KLambosos would let himself be knocked out, I think if they would reach a 12 round level and it would be quite a feat, because I imagine that this fight will be decided based on the judges, because I think it will be a very even fight and that it will have many things to see, for me Kambosos will not be so soft, I think it will show a lot, it does not have so much to lose, here the one who has a lot to lose is Haney and that is what he will seek to maintain, for me this fight will be very exciting, blow from one side and the other, it will be very interesting.

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Haney is a defensive fighter though in this sport KO is still possible but I'm into the strategy game that Haney will focus, if he will engage and if he will try to go toe-to-toe he is giving Kambosos to box him and with the skills of Kambosos it will endanger Haney withthat kind of close combat. Haney will remain with his strategy and will throw punches to earn points, he will likely look for decision as he will have that good advantage against Kambosos.

Judging from his recent fight against Fortuna, it is clear that he is back although he still have some difficulties in his jabs but he can work that out. Fighting Davis will not be that hard for him because he have the right tools, he just have to time it carefully when to dispose those tools because Davis is also quite clever mainly because of the experiences he had.

Like all the others here I voted Haney to win by a unanimous decision, he is so good at piling up points, for Kambosos to win he should not wait and go all out and make Haney off in his defense, I have seen a lot of Hane's fights and it always been on keeping his opponent at bay and making him miss and disappointed, once you make your opponent miss a lot of shots you take a lot of energy from your opponent, he is the new Mayweather for me and this fight will be another display of Haney's showmanship in the ring.