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Do you have a plan to advertise in this community?
There are many marketing campaign managers including me.  
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Both clearnet and onion version of Sinbad website are opening very very slowly for me, and I tried using different browsers.
Wording and grammar is obviously written really bad, and excuse me bur everything looks like someone made this very quickly and sloppy  :P

How much is the maximum amount of Bitcoins I could mix using your service?

I tried opening the website and got this error message "Gateway time-out Error code 504" by CloudFlare.

For me it worked (both clear net and tor link worked).


Well, maybe you don't, but CloudFlare may do. Consider doing something about that.


Some more:
* you may want, for the curious eyes, show the min/max amounts to the first page, before the user has to click "mix"
* the verify message is nice, but since I've noticed people don't know how to verify messages, you may want to add a button for the newbie (which, if the message is not verified, can redirect to a tutorial)


I will add that I like that the fee is not too big, still, you may need to have patience until you build a user base, since there's always a trust issue when new services start.
Clearly people should use the Tor link and you should do something about the (bad and newbish) combination with Cloudflare on clear net.

I tried again and it worked this time.


I was going to say that earlier, but not 100% sure since the website use "Let's Encrypt" certificate. Anyway, i would recommend OP and everyone who visit this thread to read these discussion,
Does CloudFlare proxy servers decrypt my data? (https://community.cloudflare.com/t/does-cloudflare-proxy-servers-decrypt-my-data/145691)
Mixers using cloudflare's SSL certificates (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247838.0)

Regardless of a certificate issuer being used, certificates are operated by Cloudflare's reverse-proxy servers that receive all data, decrypt it and transmit to origin servers, what imminently gives Cloudflare access to all data between site users and origin servers making it a traditional MITM. There is also a setting (https://developers.cloudflare.com/ssl/origin-configuration/ssl-modes/flexible/) to disable SSL/TLS for communication with origin servers to send everything via unencrypted HTTP on port 80, since it's not required for origin servers to use SSL/TLS at all and end-users can never know whether web site owners have it or not.

Cloudflare logs absolutely everything and you can be sure about it. Also, their "Checking if the site connection is secure" wording is a biggest snake oil of digital security - sites that use Cloudflare put their users privacy and security at risk (when the treat model consists of law enforcement being an adversary, which is common nowadays).

Thank you for the advice
We're looking for the marketing campaign manager at the moment, so the link is very helpful.

I was wondering who could be interested to buy this domain name for $13k to launch a mixer. Nobody.
I started to think you recycled an old domain name. No problem with that but I find the name weird for a mixer. Hoping you don't do sin bad at sinbad.io ;D

August 18, 2021
europeanbusinessreview.com/top-15-bitcoin-mixers-in-2021/
<meta property="article:modified_time" content="2022-10-13T13:17:26+00:00" />

You paid to be listed. No problem with that but what a waste of money. I was wondering who could be interested to pay for this garbage :o

The logo is not a custom one, perhaps it could me more professional to hire someone to make a unique one.
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Good luck with your business still, but there are some things that are not very professional.
We'll see if you can prove me wrong
xopoший дeнь


same here. 27 seconds to load the page

It feels like I am time traveling and using ''good-old'' dial-up internet, only thing I am missing is that familiar squeaky sound ;)
One more thing I noticed is that Sinbad is using only telegram for support, but link is not opening any group or a channel, but some bot so we can't see anything.

I agree with you but many websites are still using Cloudlfare (including Bitcointalk), maybe because there is no better alternative for ddos attacks.

There are many good alternatives (Imperva, Sucuri, AWS Shield, DDoS-Guard and such), but people choose Cloudflare because it's free and straightforward to setup. The most cheap and secure alternative is to buy a ~5$/mo VPS from a top-tier provider like OVH or Hetzner (that include DDoS protection) to use it as a reverse-proxy along with a Let's Encrypt certificate. That's how some privacy-oriented projects avoid using Cloudflare while keeping their clearnet resources operational and protected.

Also, currently Cloudflare ruins UX on Bitcointalk for users like me a lot, since mostly Cloudflare keeps me stuck at the "Just a moment..." page for around 5-10 minutes before I can access the forum.

Currently, max amount is 70 btc, it will increase in the near future

Am I correct in assuming that since you're providing mixing codes, then it doesn't completely break the link between someone else's transactions and ours?
^{- While you're taking one thing out of the equation, you're leaving the rest in!}

It seems that there's no error in adding the same address with identical delays and distributions and based on the provided signed letter/message, I believe it counts each one of them as a separate address so it's going to unnecessarily add a slightly more fee!

Mixing code is needed when you actively use mixer, so to make sure that you don't receive your own bitcoins from previous mixings.

I should've been clearer ^{[my bad]}... I knew the usage of mixing codes, but I meant to ask what happens when your pre-mixer reserve finishes? Sooner or later you're going to rely on the funds gathered through the mixing service itself... Am I right?
^{- I'm trying to point out how that could directly/indirectly link your users together.}

I've seen this combination of claims many times from many different websites, but I've never seen an explanation of how addresses are linked to the code without keeping logs.
The first time I saw this question raised was here:
The question wasn't answered, but 3 weeks later the largest mixer quit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042470.msg20331854#msg20331854), followed by some sarcasm (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042470.msg21149547#msg21149547).

What's your explanation?

Hello
The explanation is this:
We don't keep any logs regarding IPs, dates and connections between user's transactions to the mixer and from it. So primarily by logs I mean information that could compromise user's identity or reveal the connection between his transactions before and after using mixer. Mixing code cannot do that. Also, the mixer address (to which the user sends his btc) is marked by Mixing code until this address is either used or the amount on it is mixed with others to insignificant proportion. And finally, as soon as mixer address is spent - all info about it is deleted, so after quite short time there is absolutely no data left about user's request.

Welcome to the forum.
I hope that your presence will be useful for users to answer their inquiries and that you will be able to build continued trust with the Bitcointalk community.

It seems that there are already problems connecting to the servers. The connection is very slow loading page , as other users have previously stated, and this encourages users not to use the mixer if it will consume more time than necessary, especially since there are other mixers who are able to perform the service without disruption. Is there work in progress to deal with this problem and when is it supposed to end ?

Welcome to the bitcointalk community its been a while since I've seen a mixer promote here in the community, by the way it is all smooth to me upon visiting the website and just confusing to my part about the mixing code because it is just new to me have this kind of feature so I visited the faqs and well good it is included I haven't tried yet to commit a transactions but after this coming week ill try the functionality.

Maybe I'm just used to using CM, but I don't understand why all other mixers (someone corrects me if I'm wrong) don't use the option to give clients the possibility to get private keys, and not exclusively the option to send mixed coins in transaction. It's just an additional expense for the mixer, and I don't believe it provides any additional anonymity for the client.

From the perspective of someone who has tried several mixers, I always go back to the one that has the best conditions and ease of use.

Giving private keys requires a whole different level of trust. In that case, there is no Letter of Guarantee to prove foul play. And it requires withdrawing fixed amounts.

Welcome to the forum! It is always nice to have a support that is here and people can see that the support is working good.
One thing that I noticed is that sometime the website is quiete slow and at this time I can’t open it because of error 500  ???

Hello
Currently, we have implemented some protection measures for our servers which unfortunately affected website usability. For now it stays our priority, but we're working on it as we seek to make user experience better.
Thank you for your feedback

Glad to see your presence here.
I visited the site and in FAQ, it shows that anything sent under the minimum will be counted as a donation. So I wish to know what's the minimum?
In service fee, I saw +0.0001 btc per each address, but what is that 0.5-2.5%? Is it going to be taken from what I'll be sending?
And are all the Satoshi units allowed or is there something like a fixed round figure that I need to send and anything above/below that will also be taken by you?

Hi
The absolute minimum is 0.001 BTC, but in case there is more than one receiving address and depending on the distribution of the mixing amount between them, the minimum might be higher
That's why it is not displayed on the homepage
I will add this info to FAQ though, well noticed, thanks


All the fees are withdrawn from the amount you send to the mixer, both 0.5-2.5% (depending on what you set up) and 0.0001 per each receiving address


All the Satoshi units allowed as soon as they're greater than minimum

Are you making plans for the site to be in more languages?

I think it would be interesting for the mixer to have more languages. It would be a way of attracting more public and differentiating itself from other mixers on the market.

Yes it will be good to more language option, that would boost their audience. Well the website is still in its early phase so expect a lot of updates. I would like if there is a windows version and also recommend the mixer should be available only on Tor network. The UI is well organized and straight to the point, it saves users the stress of searching.

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I will give a proper review when I use the mixer.

I think having both the .com and tor versions is the best fit. Because who has to choose to use Tor or not is the customer and not the mix that makes that obligation.
What they can do is post a warning message to use Tor and VPN. Its use is strongly recommended.

I have got a question for OP (owner of this service).
Do you consider mixing bitcoins as money laundering? If not please explain.

I would like to mix some bitcoins and send it to a centralized exchange, so I want to know if the mixer works well with centralized exchanges or not?
Because as far as I know there are some centralized exchanges rejecting the Bitcoin coming from the mixers, so I would like to know before I try is there a problem sending the Bitcoin (mixed in your mixer) to the centralized exchanges?

Why taking all the risks by using an exchange address to receive mixed coins? I remember my binance  balance was frozen for 24 after depositing directly from the mixer. The amount was 50$ but the binance system seemed detect it as suspecious and has to check again my activities. This is what the support agent explained and i found it reliable somehow.
So, use the mixer and send mixed coins to your personal wallet address before resending it to your exchange address.

Thank you, that's what I was or asked about.

I was going to mix some bitcoins and send it to a centralized exchange but I remembered that I had read in some places that some exchanges have the ability to detect mixed bitcoins.

So here I am, according to your opinion, I need two wallets, one for sending bitcoins and one for receiving mixed bitcoins. Then I can send the mixed bitcoins from the second wallet.

Working on it, will be adding Spanish soon
Thank you for your feedback

No, because there is more than one reason for financial anonymity
Restrictions and regulations are invented by certain people, they have the same flaws as everyone else. If there are no services that promote anonymity as a manifestation of freedom, it may not be possible to resist their transgressions or restrictions and decisions that you do not agree with. Of course, malicious use can be a side effect. But same is true for all other services, money laundering has existed long before mixers were invented. And any existing financial instrument can be used for both bad and good intentions.
Consider giving up VPN and anonymous nicknames on the forums, maybe you'll see my point

Centralized exchanges filter deposits by aml risk-score
Mixers, this one included, usually do not guarantee low risk-score of the result
So I would advise you to check it before sending to the centralized exchange. Best of all just to use decentralized exchanges

How can I test this service without using my own coins? Is there any test coins to toss around and compare this service with others?

Mixer Sinbad does not currently offer such offers, and instead runs a signature campaign on the forum to introduce the service. There is no fear of trying the mixer using your own money and if you have doubts about the reliability and integrity of the mixer, you can use small amounts. The minimum amount that can be sent to the Mixer is 0.001 Bitcoin, which is equivalent to less than $17 at the current Bitcoin price.
They may launch a campaign to try the mixer in the future, so I advise you to stay tuned for updates, whether here or in the rest of the forum sections.

Can you provide a source, where it is possible to get a risk-score similar to what centralized exchanges would calculate?

Try amlbot.com

Thanks for the tip, now I can confirm that the campaign coins are indeed "clean" :D Also my mixed coins are not shown with an unexpected high risk, so at least for me I can not confirm that mixing coins will get you "dirty" coins.

Recent service update: Now for improved anonymity you can set the delay up to seven days. It's recommended to use different delays for each destination address, it's significantly improves the privacy of your mixings.

I agree with what yhiaali3 is saying, I think it is more better and safer for your mixed Bitcoin to first. drop on your wallet or any other wallet of your choice that you own the recovery phrase and not an exchange wallet that you don't have access to recover if anything happens.

Am going to try Sinbad mix systems with my first-week campaign payment to see how far that can take me, since I sign up with their campaign a few days ago.

So the best posible secure way to receive your mixed bitcoin is with your cold wallet exchange wallet not advisable due to some anti-money laundering laws.

Very good that they offer other languages. As I've seen, they've added Spanish by now. Next I would suggest german. Germans are a bit spoiled and like it when the site is displayed in their language too. At least that's the case in my circle of friends. But make sure that the translation is good and correct. Otherwise, it would rather put people off.  :)

I can confirm that. If the site is not in german, many will not use it because they like to understand everything 100%. If the translation has mistakes however it will be the biggest red flag you could give a german person. So if you can't get it 100% correct, you should defiantly not do it at all  ;)

Thanks for the feedback
Are there many mixer users among germans?

That is not easy to answer, since mixing is not something you would make public. However the german crypto community is very active so I guess there is also a demand. See this video for the most active communities:


(Klick to start)

Thank you for the confirmation.  :)

Unfortunately, I don't have any numbers or statistics on this, but I have friends who regularly use a mixer. Since bitcoin is now also very well known in germany, many people also realize that it is not 100% anonymous and therefore use mixer to protect their privacy.  :)

I connect to your post and offer to translate the service into Italian if you wish.  If you are interested you can PM me or quote this post.

@Sinbad can you say more about claims I found posted on twatter by ErgoBTC.
They claim that Sinbad mixer is working very similar like previously sanctioned Blender, with only difference being use of script type bech32 instead of P2SH.
There are also claims of abusing coinjoins services like Wasabi and Whirlpool with purpose of fooling analytics.
More information and links of transactions can be found in public, but they basically say that Blender is now Sinbad:
https://twitter.censors.us/ErgoBTC/status/1624415264103190528#m

@Sinbad.io (or Mehdi  ;))

Hello,

I would like you explain the following point because I find it a bit ambiguous.

Wired.com sent an email to you. Basically, it was to talk about the funds coming from the north korean's hacks. (the $10-15 million sent to your service)

You explained your point of view about privacy, and that was a good one.

But you also said this:


To snitch or not to snitch.
The sentence I posted basically means you're not sure if you will do it. And you need 'to investigate' to decide if you will do it

The bitcoin mixers industry is based on trust. Am I supposed to trust a service that could potentially report something to LE.

Don't take it wrong, but your opinion is ambiguous

As I have commented to the press, Sinbad is not relaunched Blender
I'm sure you can find all detailed answers on the web

I understand your point
But I only said that I will consider the request if I receive it. It doesn't mean that I am going to share any data. In fact, all the information about mixing sessions is deleted after mixing is completed, so there is nothing to share.

How wide reaching can the consequences of Chipmixer money laundering be? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445179.0)

Now that Chipmixer has shut down and an international arrest warrant been issued for their owner, how do you feel about possibly suffering the same fate?

Chipmixer was probably the biggest mixer before it was unceremoniously seized a couple of days ago by the US authorities along with a lot of help from international agencies including Germany which seized physical servers and $46 million worth of crypto.

If international authorities can shut Chipmixer down they can shut down any mixer therefore what are your views on the whole matter?

To be fair, ChipMixer did a massive mistake by using his real name on one of the PayPal accounts (while using a bunch of puppet accounts with mastering). It seems like one could survive even longer if no mistakes were made.

That might not have been their only mistake, as the days unfold maybe other errors will be publicised too and it will make interesting reading to read up on how the FBI and other agencies managed to pinpoint him. I did not know about his PayPal error until you mentioned it, I have not looked too deeply in to the circumstances on the Chipmixer website being seized but need to have a full read up.

I was curious about how the OP felt about what happened with Chipmixer because it is a possibility he could possibly end up on the FBI most wanted website and have an international arrest warrant out on him.

Criminals be advised, it is time to pack your money laundry stuff and hit the road, the "good guys" are on to you.
As the recent events have revealed, even a service such as chipmonks (aka, chipmixer) kept all the logs on everything and they were dishonest about it, not that surprising though because when you are a criminal lying is rewarding.

Now I'm not saying you guys keep logs and can track every move of your clients, but nothing is stopping you from keeping logs, so the smart move is to avoid such services.

I think that users who use centralized mixers are aware of this. If the owner of the mixer is caught and does not cooperate with the special services, then he will be in prison for life. If the owner of the mixer cooperates with the special services and hands over the logs of operations, then he can spend 5-10 years in prison. Therefore, after the mixer, at least exchange bitcoins for monero, and then exchange them again for bitcoins in various services.

According to this topic ---> Blender.io = Sinbad.io | Thoughts? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439754.0)
And if this is true, it will lead us to -----> First mixer sanctioned by US authorities (blender.io) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5397593.0)


Source ---> https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0768

It's just hypotheses, but if it's true, it won't take long for the justice authorities to do so.
More importantly, how does the site work on Cloudflare?

I'm worried about that, as well. Anyone using the clearnet site should consider their mixes pointless, since all data is decrypted at Cloudflare. IP, input address, output address, amount, everything.

There is an onion page: http://[directing people to darknet sites is not allowed].onion/
But I don't know if I can trust a service who has a clearnet version of their site that uses Cloudflare.

Another issue:

Besides the spelling mistake, such a code essentially links your mixing sessions together. I don't see how anyone can think this is a nice feature for a mixer. YoBit has it, as well..

today it doesn't work, this error message appears:
"cannot create a mixing,try again later"

You can always use onion mirror - this option is provided as part of the implementation of the service's goal
You can use clearnet if you have higher level of trust - but we do not encourage you to do it

Mixing code is a necessary feature which is not perfect but does more good than bad
It is only necessary when you do your mixings often
And it is deleted as soon as your transaction to the mixer is spent

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It is because of ddos
Should be working now, try again

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Most important is that the service does not keep logs
You should not worry about cloudflare, your data is safe anyway

I see that you have increased the advertising campaign fees, which amounted to about $20,000 per week, which is a relatively huge amount. Are there any plans to develop the site or any unconventional ideas?
I do not know, but if you are willing to pay this amount for advertising, I think that allocating half of it per week will lead you to the perfect mixer.

Also, there are some new ideas presented by whirlwindmoney. I hope to see new ideas from you.

That Royse Idea to create the biggest April Fools Joke after Flappy bird Captcha it was very tempting tho  :'(. I hope it was real  ;D

I used the mixer in the past, it worked always very well. But today I am already trying 30 minutes to enter Captacha on different computers.  I am 100% sure the Captcha I entered is correct but the system keeps telling wrong captcha. I think this will cost you a lot of costumers. can you solve this captcha issue? and just give normal captcha like numbers or picture. Its a trash now and not working

I see they are using Cloudflare to protect themselves against DDoS attacks for the clearnet site, just like a few couples of mixers I have noticed do the same. I am not sure why Cloudflare and not other alternatives. I wasn't presented with the tiresome picture captcha challenge, but I would be so paranoid using the clearnet to mix my coins.

Maybe there's a problem with your internet network?

Regardless, I suggest you use the onion link. No disturbing captcha challenge on that version.

sorry to hear that you're having trouble with the Captcha. I've heard that using a VPN can sometimes make Captchas more difficult to solve. Are you using a VPN by any chance? I've been having the same problem too! It's been driving me nuts. However, just as Bitcoin_Arena said, I found that using the .onion address helped me get through it without any problems. It might be worth a try if you're still having trouble.

I was just thinking,  is it possible to have some kind of review campaign of Sinbad to see if users on the forum can or know how to use a mixer ? I know the idea isn't entirely new as other competitors might have adopted this idea already but just so have some kind of appraisal of how easy is it to use the platform will be a great playform for feedback and any possible adjustments to the service...

The idea of doing reviews is not a bad one. But I think whenever someone receives money to do a review, it can always give the idea that they are being biased.

People can do whatever they want but I will never write a review that something is good just to receive financial reward.
Some people know that I refused to do some things in forum just to receive bitcoin payment.

Don't you think Sinbad is doing more than enough promotions in forum already? :)
Sinbad mixer works very simple and there are instructions written on their website, it's not hard to use it at all.
They have one of highest paid signature campaign and I saw them in Gambling games and rounds making prediction challenges for Bitcoin price each month since January.
I participated in most of them and I am still waiting to win reward, maybe it will happen in this April Challenge! ;)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447399.0

I get where you going with this but it was mearnt to be a litmus paper test to be used as a feedback gathering exercise to see how easy it is to use the service, and not getting biased reviews... I guess this is the reason such campaigns aren't opened to all to avoid getting one sided views.

I give them credit for this but since we all see it as a campaign promotion overload then idea is off the table :)

A good review campaign is designed to avoid biased responses. So: don't pay for good reviews, pay for all reviews. Even better if it's paid up front, so the reviewer doesn't feel any pressure to go in a certain direction.
I've done several reviews, and I usually mention the bad stuff. There's no point in mentioning the good stuff, so I mention what I think can be improved. I've had positive responses to this approach.

I can give review about Sinbad website for free right now, I think they can do some work on improving design of their website, but it's more important that everything works fine with mixing coins.

I even think it's more important to point out bad things in some service so they can improve and change some things.
Lying someone that everything is perfect for any service is counterproductive and misleading.
Maybe people think they will get paid more for saying only nice things  ;D

But what you did was not a review, it was feedback from the service. They are different things.

The revision must be given spontaneously by the client, without being asked.
Feedback is requested directly from customers, to find out where to improve and how the service is working from the user's point of view.




If the campaign is for feedback, it makes sense. But not a campaign for review. This in my opinion.

Google shows this definition:
I'm pretty sure that's what's intended when someone asks for a (paid) review.

I saw that and did not like it because I was surprised that why Sinbad would pay in a signature campaign without updating the site.

I do not know if @Royse777 had taken Sinbad's permission before doing that trick, but using private business as April Fools' campaign does not be a professional behavior, at least as a campaign manager.

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Doing a review is either at the beginning of the activity or important changes, otherwise the adoption of trust and build brand name.

OK. It will be a matter of how the term is applied. Sometimes words can have multiple applications.  ;)




If everything indicated that it was a lie, why get upset over a joke on a day when a lie is used to joke?
Personally, I don't like the lie, but I don't get upset about these things either. Especially in something that hardly affected anyone in less than 24 hours that the joke lasted.

But, everyone feels things in their own way, and I respect that.

reviews alone are necessary for platform's development and also to entice others on using the platform, but sometimes it is mistook for being biased if the reviews are paid, that is why it is also important for the ones doing the review campaign to be a bit meticulous and choose the ones that has no unbiased opinion, coz most of the time reviewers are only after the reward so it is to be expected that they'd make an effort into making their best reviews as possible. it could also be possible to provide pictures as proof that they are using the mixer as long as it does not compromise the privacy of the user. this is only my few cents of suggestion you can ignore it if it doesn't fit your standard, coz I know that the whole point of mixers is to protect the users privacy.

Do you own this site? The website design looks professional, perhaps better than the current version.



They even have the same minimum as yours. Minimum amount for mixing: 0.001 BTC


So much so that their donation address is

Can this be considered a clone site? Since the domain name is similar, but everything is different.

Yes! and they're also redirecting people to a different telegram:


The real one as we have seen on the ANN is: t.me/sinbadio_english

Going forward, I would consider any other domain names not mentioned in the ANN as a phishing attempt since I imagine sinbad would update us on all their official handles as they are advertising here plus people get to be on the safe side this way. My advice is to bookmark the links and the ANN thread.

While we're on this topic, there was another similar phishing website talked about days ago, see: sinbad-mixer.io is this a clone site? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447965)

They will probably increase over time...

I saw that too and agree with your sentiments because it was highly unprofessional behaviour as far as any campaign manager is concerned.

If Sinbad allowed their name to be used with their consent in that way then it was not a good thing but either way using campaigns in such a manner for cheap publicity can cause a lot of issues such as a painful one unfortunately shared here by elevates in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447273.0)

Solved
The service was under ddos attack
Use onion mirror when you have troubles with clearnet

It's a scam

Well noticed!

Users will me notified in case there are any significant changes like new domain addresses, Telegram links, etc
All official information can be found in the ANN and on the website it leads to
Everything else must not be taken seriously

I reported [Warning]: Another Fake Sinbad Mixer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5450517.0).

It really is a concern when phishing sites want to take the credit from the real one checking this

on whois they have an extension of their domain for 3 years I think the management should put a warning on the existence of these clones and phishing sites and check if they are on the right Sinbad mixing site, like what Pancakeswap is showing on their page.

I am afraid that the scammer is reading this post and then adding the real domain name as phishing site warning.
The best solution, in my view, is for the user to verify the service links using ANN page or sinbad signatures.
Also, it should be published on the site that it is necessary to visit bitcointalk ANN page to receive updates before making any mixing process.

In the past, the way to faith this problem was for the owner to immediately register all similar domains. Now with the new extended extensions, it's practically impossible, a fight with windmills.


This could be a partial solution. The design of the sinbad.io mixer is not that complicated and the links to ANN on the forum can be placed more dominantly, so if the impersonator wants to be identical, he must appeal to the forum check.

Hello! I have an issue with my mix: funds sent but not received. I've contacted your support by e-mail and in telegram already but no actions have been taken still. Can you help me please?

can you confirm two things?
- Are you sure you used their only official site https://sinbad.io or TOR http://[directing people to darknet sites is not allowed].onion/ ?
- Considering the currently very high fees, have you checked whether your transaction has been confirmed by the network?

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There is a problem with the sinbad.io page here, it seems that it is currently unavailable. TOR works without problems

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/08/imagee74c00264a1a458e.th.png (https://talkimg.com/image/X0Kq)

1) Yes, i copied the address from this thread
2) The transaction was confirmed with a delay (about 30 hours) because of low fee. I increased the fee twice during this period. But now the transaction is confirmed many times.

I've been researching mixers today and comparing their features when I come up to sinbad and this is what I saw in their website. Are they a scam?

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/11/04/tmwZC.jpeg

Lol i thought you were on a phishing website but turns out you're not as I'm seeing the same thing on their clearnet. It looks like a template, they could be revamping the website or smth..

Meanwhile, TOR version looks fine. I've not tried depositing though.


Did you happen to save your session hyperlink? if so, could you take a look at the status? if the confirmations were registered or nah.

In any case, we would need sinbad's intervention.

Hiperlink stopped working after about 36 hours after the beginning of the mix, it returns 404 now. But just after the transaction was sent the page showed me my transaction though with 0 confirmations. After the tx was confirmed I wasn't able to check the status.
I've added the link and the guarantee letter in the letter that I sent to your email (from the site): support@sinbad.io. Why can't you just check the inbox? All the relevant information is there.
I've already contacted your support by telegram either and still nothing.
It seems that you're not really interested in solving this issue? My funds're gone

User @Potato Chips is not an official representative of Sinbad Mixer, so he can't answer some of your questions. It's just a matter of support to explore all possibilities before we get any response from Sinbad.io.

It is obvious that they are currently having some problems with the clearnet page, it is possible that this also affects the delay in answering.

Hey, did your issue get resolved?

I noticed that the clearnet website is returning me a connection timeout error. Apparently the error is from the host (sinbad.io) but Cloudflare and the browser are just fine.

The Tor mirror is still OK though.

Oh okay, just wanted to make sure.

When I used them, the hyperlink for my session became inaccessible when I've already gotten my btcs in my wallet. Looks like your session was mistakenly treated as completed or something - a guess.


In this forum, only the account sinbad.io could directly help you. Other people could at best provide insights or direct you to right places.


Honestly, sinbad should see to it that updates are posted when problems occur so people won't be playing guessing games...

My guess is they also have/had backlog issues as I see them bumping the minimum mix amount + withdrawal fee.

Sorry guys, but it doesn't look like Sinbad.io is installing a new design. You don't install a random theme like this while installing a new theme. You work on your design in a sandbox environment and once ready set it up in the live environmement. If your new design isn't complete, you keep the old one until the job is done.

I start to wonder if they have decided to shut down the clearnet version. Now the interesting question is why?

I had the same thought when I posted here. I created websites for clients before and publishing a template with no content is something I never do or seen anyone did. Most plausible thing I can think of is that maybe their  clear net has been hacked but why does it take long for them to fix it.

Maybe they are under heavy ddos attacks again or somebody tried to hijack website and scam people.
Onion website is opening fine for me but I didnt try if mixing works right now because of high bitcoin fees.
Sinbad forum account was not online since May 6th and I think they should be more active and explain what is happening with clearnet website.

I don't believe about this possibility. Sinbad.io is running behind Cloudflare (and since the begining). So that already rules out the theory of a DDOS. Also, when a website is under attack, you can't access it, it's the purpose of a DDOS. Not to show you another website. Otherwise an attacker could show you a p*rn site to get more fun.

About someone hikacking the website...
If it was the case, as a website/business operator, you're supposed to shut down your website entirely, turn off the server to find from where the exploit come from.
That's my opinion on how it's supposed to work

"Onion website is opening fine for me"
I haven't checked to be honest, I believe you and @Bitcoin_Arena who confirmed...

But from what I know the onion websites are always the last one to disappear...

We are maybe worried for nothing but it would be nice if they come to see something, yes.

I did not see that there was any change in the DNS settings of the sinbad.io domain in the last 2-3 weeks. I don't think it's a hack. The day before, there was a problem accessing the site, I wouldn't be surprised if a DDoS attack happened. I believe Cloudflare is not omnipotent.


This has just been mentioned to the campaign manager, he will also contact them. Soon it will be found out where the problem arose.

That's true, or you can redirect your domain to one of your parked domains this is one of the reasons why if you're running a website you need to have backup sites for redirection and the name could be similar to your main domain.

I'm promoting Sinbad so I would like to be positive, I'd like to think that the site is under configuration for a better one but at least their web designer should have a notification that the site is under maintenance and will soon relaunch, I hope there's no issue on domain ownership and everything will be ok.

Update: Good news Clearnet is up now

But Sinbad clearnet website was really not avaialable and they said before about ddos attacks so this is not their first rodeo with that.
Now websites started working again and it has exactly the same design as before, and I dont care about design very much if website works like it should.

Yes, but we should also criticize and make suggestion to improve something.
I wont say only nice things about any service just because I waer their signature.

It works fine for me now, but it is better to have official Sinbad account confirming in forum.

I'm just being myself  :D I trust the people and projects I work with and am very positive about the project I work with, but I did make a suggestion, and about criticism, I do it in private

So far clearnet is good I hope the admin can change the images in the announcement now that Imgur is blocking Bitcointalk

https://i.postimg.cc/y8086Ncx/sinbadthread.png (https://postimages.org/)

Good day, everyone
Sinbad is not hacked, there was a technical problem, which is solved now
I apologize for the late response

Unfortunately clearnet mirror is not always stable, sometimes it is attacked, sometimes other problems appear. Sinbad team is always working on fixing it as soon as possible, meanwhile you can use tor mirror to get access

ANN is also fixed

Glad to see you solving things, even though I think that you can be more active here.

Here are no new complaints, so I guess this case is positively solved.

The problem here is, people are not patient enough to wait and start assuming lots of scenarios in case they see anything happening or not happening around something. Same is the case here, so everyone started assuming lots of things about you because obviously, you guys are running a mixer and people from mixer always keep their identity anonymous, which is why these assumptions take place. Anyways, congratulations on setting everything back up and running. 🙌

Can you please explain what happened with different  theme on your website that some members noticed, are you working on some new design or not?

Not patient? The mixer's industry is based on trust, it's logical to people to have doubts, and they're right. We have see so many differents cases over the years. I wouldn't use a mixer on TOR when I know the clearnet website is down.
After all, we're talking about money. It doesn't come from the sky

Now if the operator tells it before, that's somthing else. Of course, there is no need to log in bitcointalk everyday, but just a message to say "hello!". Or write a message "under maintenance" on the website, IDK. But uploading a random theme on the server?

Whether the issue mentioned in the post was resolved in an appropriate manner is one thing, what cannot be overlooked is what you highlighted. I would go a little further and add that if they are paying for a signature campaign (therefore use the forum to display their services) they should probably consider being more active here too.

Does anybody know definitely if the issue was actually resolved? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416985.msg62217236#msg62217236)

What you mean exactly ?

Issue is solved, Sinbad.io is working fine, I have no particular problem and since the incident was resolved, the site is stable from my side.

Also, I think the issue has already been solved, I believe that rozenbaum would have announced himself here again if there was still a problem.

Although I saw many phishing sites related to the Sinbad service, I wouldn't be surprised if he were the victim of such a scam.

My issue was NOT resolved, funds are gone and there is still no answer to my mail tht I sent to your support address.
I wasn't able to write here for some time but I still hoping to return my BTC back.
Is the support willing to help me?

They are usualy pretty reactive via PM on this forum, did you tried to send them one in addition to the email to the support ?

I don't know what you wrote exactly in your email, but if you didn't provided the TXID of the said transaction, you should send them, it will give to their support the opportunity to check everything in a good way.

They are handling transactions without any issue actually, so I am sure that you will have soon an answer from their support. Keep us informed !

Did you use onion version or clearnet for mixing, and what email address you used for contacting Sinbad support?
I believe they have two email addresses, main one is support@sinbad.io and secondary address is adv@sinbad.io.
You should also send them personal message in forum to get reply, but they are not active in forum everyday.

Maybe manager Royse can remind them to visit this thread and reply to you.

He already mentionned it in the previous post



He already tried to contact them via email and tried too the telegram channel and still struggle. not sure it's going to be faster; but yes I admit it's his last way to have a reply

What different theme?

Checked the email
Have your issue been resolved?

I think it won't be resolved without anyone's help. I've just sent another letter to both the addresses mentioned here ("main one is support@sinbad.io and secondary address is adv@sinbad.io"). All the needed information is there, but honestly I don't believe anymore that I will get my money back.
Hope, you'll answer me by email. I didn't want to expose this problem but no actions was taken so I don't know what else I could do.

Someone posted screenshot during the time when Sinbad website was not available, it was different website design but I think this could be just a fake sinbad phishing website.
You can just confirm here if you are planning to change design of your website or not.

I will see to it today

No updates were made to our current design lately, I'm not sure what you're referring to, but probably it was a scam site
I am planning on updating the design but I will announce it later

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Hello
Please send me your email in private messages here so I can find your request and check it's status
There are no unanswered letters in the support mailbox. Were you requested to provide a guarantee letter? Did you do it?
Waiting for your reply

Is it true Sinbad is operated by the same person that created Blender? Crypto tracing company "Elliptic" have stated with conviction that the evidence is very strong.

After Chipmixer, Is Sinbad.io Next To Be Shutdown? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454407)

I can't sent you a PM, it's forbidden by your settings. Guarantee letter is attached to both of the emails that I sent

Should we also discuss about the sanctioning of tornado.cash, the timely emergence of whirlwind.money and how the whirlwind.money website design closely resembles got inspiration Tornado.cash's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449827.msg62194073#msg62194073) or that's a topic for another day?

In fact I was surprised to see you wearing a signature of yet another mixing service especially after the opinions you had about mixers following the seizure of Chipmixer.
Whether the mixer is going to be the next to shutdown or not. To you, what makes Whirlwind.money different from Chipmixer, Sinabad or any other mixer in the eyes of law enforcement?

Why did you not start a thread to discuss what you want already? Those that wish to participate in the discussion your thread will entail will do so without compulsion and those that wish to question your motives for doing it will do so and of course those that wish to not participate will also do so because this is a community forum and nobody can force another to do their bidding. Feel free to do it, this forum is fairly democratic in that sense.

And?

Coinomize, Wasabi, YoMix, Whirlwind and others have not been named by any government as being suspected of money laundering but Chipmixer and Blender were named in US government officials legal documentation as money launderers therefore they are automatically part of a distinction from the rest. And since evidence has been presented to show Sinbad.io is operated by the same team that operated Blender.io (https://www.wired.com/story/sinbad-crypto-mixer-north-korean-hackers/), it stands to reason they are probably next.

It seems that this is taking too long, they should probably switch to a simpler and more direct way of communication. I hope that this will be resolved positively as soon as possible.


there is no article about any other mixer on wired.com (probably), that's why all the drama is focused on Sinbad.
I believe that this ANN thread is not the place for general discussions about other mixers, that is thread derailing. And it is certainly not adequate for "probably" charges.

Because they haven't scammed anyone. Besides,I have no negative opinion about mixers like you do. I would love them to thrive as much as they can.

It's ironic and hypocritical.

Chipmixer was also never officially named as being a suspected tool for "money laundering" by the US Government until we just woke up one day and it's domain was seized. In fact what we used to see before the seizure were such articles (https://fullycrypto.com/chipmixer-accused-of-being-united-states-government-honeypot)
So please, don't convince us that there is a difference with these services when it comes to law enforcement.

Good for you and your opinion but you should not be telling me or others which topics/companies/brands we should or should not be starting topics on. Feel free to start your threads on the topics you want to. And, I do not have a positive nor negative opinion on mixers, keep on assuming what you want it does not bother me.

In your opinion and you are welcome to believe what you want.

I have no interest in convincing you of anything, believe what you want.

Other members manage to text me, why can't you?

I have checked my email box multiple times, there are no unanswered requests.
There is telegram chat, you can contact service support there as well.

Seems weird to me that I don't see any requests on my email, you didn't try reaching via Telegram and you also can't text me here in private, yet keep complaining on the public thread being the only one who's doing it and you are wearing competitor's signature

I would like to help you if your problem is real so please send one more request to the support (if possible both telegram and email, so I definitely don't miss it) and let us know here that you did it

Just in case, check your account settings, maybe the option to receive PMs from Newbies is not enabled.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wR7C3.png


To be honest, it's a little strange to report a problem, we didn't get any more info here either, or what the amount is, maybe some link to the transaction. For now, it's all about trusting the newly created account.

Here's my last message:
https://i.ibb.co/RPPtyHF/2023-06-05-11-50-07.png (https://ibb.co/zbbCJfM)
And I've already contacted your coleague via Telegram (@Sinbadlo_Russian, I've found it in tg group with address @Sinbadio_Russian, but now I'm not sure whether the address is right), they suggested me to write on forum.
I've just wrote a message to @sinbadio.

Thank you, it was really disabled, fixed it

I changed the profile settings for receiving messages from newbies
If there is a problem in the future you'll be able to text me your email in private message so I can look for your request in the mailbox. There were no unanswered messages, probably your letter got to the spam for some reason
Anyway it's good your issue got resolved.

Well, we resolved the issue wih the support in Telegram. Don't know why my letters didn't arrive though. Thank you to all concerned.

https://i.ibb.co/SdsyqtW/img811c4a70a6925e7b3377556ee5ee2e2e.jpg

Sinbad clearnet website is not working for me and I tried using different browsers, so this must be some attack.
In one browser I can only see Cloudflare page but I could not access the website and I received gateway timeout.
On different browser I receive warning that site is not secure and it is not supporting HTTPS.
Only way to access Sinbad now is with Tor browser onion address.
Is this the same for everyone else? Is mixing working ok?

I just tested accessing the site, and everything is working normally.
It may have been an error in Cloudflare, which should now be normalized.

It works normally for me, tried it on several browsers. Maybe part of the Cloudflare check is a bit slower, which affects the site loading, but it certainly works.
I also tried HTTP access, but all redirects are good.

notblox1, it is possible that it was a temporary attack, I see that it is now a trend towards other mixers.

It might be a bit redundant given the warning of the list of impersonating sites is already made on the opening post, but I think it's better be safe redundant than sorry, I noticed that the impersonating site also have their own tor page.

https://i.ibb.co/SRQ6c1d/authentic.jpg (https://ibb.co/86zmbRd)
https://i.ibb.co/PMs8fN8/Fake.jpg (https://ibb.co/ScDp9Pp)
https://i.ibb.co/pfBb90Z/also-fake.jpg (https://ibb.co/hBJLt7H)

Wow, almost identical. That could really trick those who have bad searching habits.
Anyone who wants to mix their coins with Sinbad, should bookmark the official and TOR site + this ANN thread. Before using the mixer, always confirm that the domains you have in your bookmarks are identical to what this ANN thread shows. If in doubt, ask questions before sending any money to a fake site. And never rely on Google to point you to the correct mixer. History shows us they don't care, and will gladly advertise a fake one.

I must say that it is not the best practice to have phishing links in the opening post of the ANN thread. Someone who is a little "fast" with reading, can easily overlook the warning on these links. "Sinbad admins posted this, surely it can't be wrong"... I have seen such cases often, even in an alarming number.

I would suggest the moderator of the SinBad.io account make small changes and make this warning much clearer. For example


Adding all bad links in the code tag, will not make them clickable (like the link to the Telegram group at the moment). This will avoid even an accidental click that leads to a wrong page with an almost identical appearance.
When it comes to any financial transaction, precautionary measures are never superfluous.

I would like to take this opportunity and make another suggestion:

Maybe it's me, that I'm a bit of a "perfectionist" in these things. But, I think that the logo, website, info of ANN and sig, are not in harmony.
The site's colors are black and gray, the logo is green, and the sig is blue.
It is true that the buttons on the site are blue, but it seems that everything together does not match.

I don't know if this has been commented on before, or if it's just me who like to see harmony in these things. But I think they could try to review this situation, which I believe is not very complicated.

Here's the suggestion. _{If you need help say...}

I never saw anyone cloning onion links to almost identical, and most people usually just confirm starting and ending parts of address.
However, I went ahead and entered that onion address in Tor browser and it didn't work, after trying all possible combination I always received Invalid Onionsite Address message in browser.
Scammers are probably hoping for users to switch back to fake clearnet address and send them coins.

Yes, I think this is a very important proposal. 

The interface of the site, the color scheme of the site are very important points that affect the perception of the software product. 

Man, unlike many animals, perceives the world around him mainly through the organs of vision.  Therefore, the color scheme of the site has a great psychological impact on a person.  In the presence of blue and green, black on the site may be redundant. 

You can use yellow instead.  Yellow color harmonizes well with blue and green.

Since it is a pirate flag the only true colors should be black / red / white.

On a more technical note, would it be possible to set the actual fee the outgoing TX uses within certain limits.
Don't want to have people set it so low that it might not be confirmed for months, but at times I would not mind setting it low and then doing a CPFP if needed.

-Dave

I noticed that the signature campaign of Sinbad Mixer intends to increase the number of participating members, and this will almost make it the most mixer signature campaign with the largest number of participants, if that the number will not decrease during the coming weeks. The campaign currently includes a group of the best publishers on the forum, while maintaining a good level of monitoring and organization by the manager.

This proves the success of the campaign in achieving the desired results and the possibility of achieving greater successes. It also proves that accreditation of signature campaigns under professional management can achieve very satisfactory results. Congratulations Sinbad

Umm... not sure if it's just me, but I tried to access the clearnet through mobile browser and switch them to desktop version, it worked on mozilla-based browser, but on chrome and brave --i.e. chromium-based-- it's stuck on site verification step, the captcha won't stop circling and won't let me proceed to the page, instead it'll just keep refreshing the page. Switching back to mobile version solved it, and accessing through mozilla-based works fine both on mobile and desktop-version. I tried them both on my tablets [plural] and my phone, both on normal and incognito tab, everything brought the same result.

I have always wanted to ask about this but didn't as I was thinking someone else here has asked about it, but since it's here, am also for the idea of having a matching logo being used here on the forum and on main site to give Sinbad one identity...

And if am to render my opinion on which avatar to go with, this one we use here has grown on me :)

Definitely it's one of the biggest campaigns at the moment but this increase of participants as a caveat to it and the likely members to easily make it are those from ch*pmixer and a few others with exceptional quality or have a great presence in the boards one is usually found.

Thanks examplens - I will give the management a new version of text to update the OP. I noticed it other day too and had the same thought.

Feel free to contact me bud. Note: Sinbad management loves the current signature we have. It looks larger and clearer, hypothetically you can see it from the space :-)

Long ago the management was saying they are working on a new branding. The discussion did not continue for long as they are busy and we did not have a good timing to continue the talk about it. I am basically waiting for them to make the update of the branding. Maybe we will consider a harmony after.

But I like the fact that the current signature and avatar already create a brand on bitcointalk. On the other side, their main website is already huge popular that right now this black and white, very plain website with the old logo became a brand too. Altogether when Sinbad comes in mind we have three different images in mind.

Green, black avatar
Blue, white signature
Finally the black and white website interface with that pirate logo.

I think all these together made itself a different harmony.
The popularity and success of the business hopefully back up the statement :-D

Thank you. In this campaign and Yo!Mix campaign, I have full control over what I do. The managements are fully flexible towards any decision I make in the budget they allocated for me. My goal is to give the best value while looking after the participants interest too. When there is such co-operation between a project team and the marketing team then the rest become very easy, the brand flourish quickly. I have several feedback from my clients about how the marketing is performing for them and all the time they appreciated positively. In the future we will bring more attraction in this campaign. Behind the scene we always do the brainstorming.

Logically we got used to it, personally I think it's always better to have a general harmony of the elements.
I don't even question the logo, signature and website. I think they should be more interconnected, or at least the site should link all these elements together.

But, this is also "pirate", not to follow the rules. ::)

This is really one of the most effective marketing strategies when the entire task is assigned to a specialized manager and only the necessary budget is provided without direct intervention. The division of roles helps to work in harmony and to monitor the points that must be focused on working on more than others.
We've already seen this with the Chipmixer platform, when DS was in complete control of the campaign, and how did this help in selecting the best members with reputation and efficiency for posting.

Dark green/black is perhaps not the most noticeable combination, I hope that the current contest Sinbad.io Mix Your BTC Quickly AVATAR contest | Win up to $200 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457096.0) will bring some improvements when we talk about the avatar.
The signature looks pretty good now (at least to me), I wouldn't change much.


Yellow colour for a service such as a mixer is completely unacceptable. Otherwise, in web design, the combination of colors is very important, depending on the activity for which it is being made. I suggest that you do a little research, you will see that yellow is more suitable for some fun sites. By no means to the service or through some aspect of financial services.
It is about psychology and its influence on the visitor in terms of trust.

The content in-fact launched with the goal of finding a set of avatar that will match the current signature set.

Try it now. Everything seems ok on my end both on Firefox and Chrome on my desktop and mobile devices. Cloudflare was acting up a few days ago, maybe that affected the clearnet version, since it uses Cloudflare. You might have noticed slowness with the forum in the last 2 days as well, but not today. 

Nope, still like before, accessing through mobile version will let me through, but activating "desktop version" will make me stuck on cloudflare page on chromium-based browser. I don't think it's a big issue, but I'm pointing it out in case admin team might want to look at it? I figure people who use mobile probably won't even bother activating desktop-version [they'll use their PC for that], unless they're like me who frequently switch between versions on my tablets and phones every now and then because I was too lazy to turn on my PC but got curios what's a page looks like on desktop mode, or if I want to test something, or for other reasons.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/11/ZISHT.jpeg
This one is Chrome on incognito

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/11/ZIGTW.jpeg
This one is Brave on normal tab on different device [tablet]

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/11/ZIQam.jpeg
This one is Firefox on normal tab

I have Opera on every devices, if anyone curious and want me to test it on them too?

Hi

You may be interested to add the following domain names

- sinbad-mixer.io:The website is down (currently  :P) but it will probably comes back soon
- sinbad.digital
- sinabad.com: the same scammer behind sinbad.digital

not a typo squating or using another TLD but still:
- btcmixer.info: a clone using your design, and again the same scammer behing sinbad.digital
- btcmixer.website: a clone using your design, and again the same scammer behing sinbad.digital

Question
Why when I visit the real website Sindbad.io (currently down) I am redirected to an URL as below
https://sinbad.io/ru?__cf_chl_tk=IAXDlVbWjIIjcx67MLSdwad2_glScjbaNr1eQg37qIo-1689116362-0-gaNycGzNC6U

what's the "__cf_chl_tk=IAXDlVbWjIIjcx67MLSdwad2_glScjbaNr1eQg37qIo-1689116362-0-gaNycGzNC6U"
I suppose it's because 1) you're using Cloudflare and 2) the website is showing me a CF page. So the string "__cf_chl_tk...........GzNC6U" is placed by CF? No idea what else is the reason. I clicked from Google so a tracker from the search engine?

Greetings

Cloudflare challenge token, they have a few more depending on the status of the server and if the user triggered and passed a captcha like __cf_chl_captcha_tk__. Btw, "/ru?"  ;D

And yeah, clearnet is down for me also.

14 other scams:

- simbad.io
He changed the website and now you will be redirected to slnbad.io

- sinbadmixer.net

@stompix thanks
I've never noticed this string with CF, or that was so long ago that I didn't remember
 /ru, because that was the link avalaible on google, I didn't see Sinbad.io or Sinbad.io/en
I love too much my country to leave it <3


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I can copy any website design, even I don't even know how to make a nice looking banner or logo.

At the same time, I've seen a fresh template with Sinbad name. I didn't want to post a screenshot/link because maybe Sinbad.io wants to make a surprise, or maybe it's just a designer building his portfolio

But I got a few names for you guys, theses ones are operated by 1 guy behind. He's active since at least February 2023

sinbad.click
sinbad.one
btcmixed.xyz
sinabad.com
btcmixer.live
sinbad-btc.online
btcmixer.pro
btcpro.live
mixer.services
mixerbtc.xyz
bestbtcmixer.xyz
sinabad.com


To summarize with my previous post:

simbad.io
sinbadmixer.net
sinbad-mixer.io
sinbad.digital
sinabad.com
btcmixer.info
btcmixer.website
sinbad.click
sinbad.one
btcmixed.xyz
sinabad.com
btcmixer.live
sinbad-btc.online
btcmixer.pro
btcpro.live
mixer.services
mixerbtc.xyz
bestbtcmixer.xyz
sinabad.com

Hope it helps. Time to visit my bed now  ;D

For me, same thing. It would be nice to be reviewed, if possible of course.
It could be an external problem.



I visited these sites, to see how they were made, and it has a design almost the same (or equal) to the original.
That's why I think it's important for Sinbad.io to review its design, to increase the difficulty of being copied.

Sometimes simplicity is not always ideal, although I understand why they want to be simple. But, you have to try to reduce these false copies, and doing that involves "difficulting" your design.

That's true there should be a level of complication when designing a site to avoid getting duplicated there are so many fake Sinbad sites now because it is easy to copy the real one, I recommend WordPress there are some plugins that will prevent copying content.

It's good that the real https://sinbad.io/en is now using Cloudflare this is to differentiate the real one from fake sites, I check some of these fake sites and they are not using Cloudflare at least for now but we never know.

I'm somehow late to this. I have read a couple of posts about this. It is true that both the avatar and signature has created a brand on the minds of bitcointalk users. What if there is need for harmony and consistency. I mean both avatar and signature maintaining one color pattern. Which among the avatar and signature do we think is more dominant in the mind of bitcointalk users also considering aesthetics.

Personally I prefer the blue and white signature colour. I don't know if Royse777 will consider to put it as a rule in the avatar  for the contestants to produce two versions of their job. One with green,black as seen in the avatar currently, two should be blue,white to see how it will blend with signature.

For this type of site, I don't recommend Wordpress, and it won't even be necessary. What they need is to improve the website template, in order to make copying the layout more complicated.

In case they use Cloudflare, it is not too expensive for a hacker to use the platform. But they tend not to. Even so, for many users this element may even go unnoticed.

Oh, I see what you mean now. Somehow I missed the part of your post where you said that you used your mobile devices to switch the site to the desktop version. I just tried it, and yes, it won't open the desktop version on Chrome. It remains stuck on loading in circles with the "checking if connection is secure" message.

It's back up and running again.

I can't believe one site can have these many phishing sites to scam people. You did an excellent job. I suggested the management to update their ANN with these information.

Yes and no.

Yes, anyone can copy the design of a website, using the source code of the page they want to copy.
No, if the site template is developed in a more elaborate way, it will make this task more complicated and it will be difficult to make the site look exactly the same. There will be more elements out of place than on a simple website.

Have your tried opening this onion link?
Looks like it's invalid

Better use onion mirror
It is safer and always available
Clearnet is often under ddos

Thanks buddy. For you the following update on the code tag was possible.

dkbit98 tried that (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416985.msg62512581#msg62512581) for us, I tried them later after his findings and I can confirm that it is inaccessible and was probably --as dkbit98 suggested-- put there only to confuse visitors and ultimately led them to use the fake clearnet.

I have just used Sinbad mixer for the first time.

Suggestion:

I didn't knew what is "mixing code". It was somehow easy to find the information, but I strongly suggest that you make a link in the main page to your FAQ just beside the MIXING CODE button, so anyone can find the information faster. Something like this:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/13/ZJE1f.png

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I will make another post when my mixing process ends

That is all correct but I don't think it matters in the end.

Problem is that people that end up on phishing sites aren't those that are using Sinbad often and therefore they don't know exactly how the site works and looks. Even bad copy is good enough and I can make a bad copy of any site and I made maybe 3 web pages in my life. Somebody with more experience can do it in half a day probably.

I believe that all regular users have the address bookmarked so that is not a problem and the other part should be handled with good SEO in my opinion. Simply don't give phishing sites opportunity to come on top of search results.

You don't even have to have special knowledge about creating a website to make a clone of any page. There are various web scrapers for that, quite enough to clone 95% of the site. Functionality and backend are certainly not important (when we are talking about phishing sites), it is enough to have the part for the end user to get an address for the deposit, and nothing else matters after that.

Yes I did try it, and my conclusion could be wrong only in case if that onion address worked in past, or could possibly work in future, but it's highly unlikely.
I know how most scammers mind works and I think it's just bs address with few letter swap.
Like some people suggested before me, best protection against attacks like this is to bookmark Sinbad page, and all other pages you are using.
In last few years I realized most of the people don't use their brain at all (or very little), so it's possible for them to get scammed with this cheap tricks.

Just as a reminder, the current contests by Sinbad
Sinbad.io Mix Your BTC Quickly AVATAR contest | Win up to $200 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457096.0) There are still two weeks left to the deadline.

SINBAD.io MIXER July Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458769.0) July 20th is the deadline for giving second prediction

Yes, I agree with you that the predominantly yellow website interface creates a sense of clowning.  Therefore, the yellow color in website design should be used with great care.  It can only be used as a secondary color, not as a base color. 

The blue color goes well with white (and looks very solid) so I really like the new blue and white signature.  At the same time, a small addition of yellow or light brown color, in my opinion, will add brightness and cheerfulness to the site design.  This is also very important. 

Finance (money), on the one hand, is indeed a very serious entity, but on the other hand, money is energy.  Energy is associated in people with the sun and yellow.  No wonder the main symbol of wealth is gold. 

In this case, of course, you should not focus on the yellow color (this would be wrong).

Regular users should bookmark the real one, problems are those who got it from word of mouth and just typed in Sinbad, and ended up in phishing sites, phishing sites sometimes ended up on top of the results in search engines.
It's good that Sinbad had a campaign here, the campaign is for awareness of the real Sinbad it's what differentiates the real from the fake ones.
With so many phishing sites they need to keep up with the marketing campaign here for users to land on the real Sinbad, if people are in doubt about the real Sinbad they should just check these signatures posted here in this forum or the announcement thread.

I agree with this color combination. Blue, green and some golden tones would look good.

But, it also all depends on how the logo looks, in the contest they are holding. I think things should follow a pattern and everything should match.

Therefore, I will wait for the result of the contest, to give a more detailed opinion on the subject of the layout of the site.

I was late joining here I hope this will be a continuous contest until the halving time or even longer was hoping that after the halving we will all be predicting in 6 digits because the price finally reached 6 digits by then, signature campaign plus contest good reasons why Sinbad had a good presence here on Bitcointalk of course it made a big difference that Royse is managing the project.

A few months ago, they started a monthly prediction contest. I believe that they will be new from August, so here's a chance.
Just because it seemed to me that many people don't even know about that contest, I shared the link. It is part of the Sinbad promotion here on the forum.

I don't know if it's a good idea, but I suggest that maybe part of the Sinbad signatures can carry a link about the contest in the games and around board. Most people are not aware of such contest because they are not regulars of that board.
I think this would help create awareness and also keep reminding members that there is an ongoing contest.

But the July contest hasn't been launched yet, has it?
Maybe, just for August, if it's still a marketing strategy they're using/planning.

What do you mean exactly?
Just scroll down in Games & rounds and you can clearly see the topic for July Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458769.0),
and for August prediction new topic should be created around the first five days of the month, at least this was Sinbad practice in previous months, and they are doing this price prediction promotions since December 2022.

Sorry, I misread the text of the rules.
Thanks for the clarification.

Dear Users. In the next few hours, technical work and redesign will be carried out on the service, the website might be unavailable. All your funds are safe and will be sent according to your settings.

..Update..

Technical work has been completed.

The website design has been updated ☠️☠️

Note that the service address has changed. Use the new address to verify the authenticity of letters of guarantee. The address is located in the footer of the site.

Cool design. I like the dark colors in the background.
It reminds me of old-school computer games, like Tetris and the 1980s-1990s. The cubes on the top right made me think of it. I don't know if that is what you were aiming for.

I have a suggestion for the line on the left (with the pink square at the top) that looks like a vertical timeline. It would look cool if you could drag the square up and down the site to make it scroll up and down. Would that be doable?

I haven't do a thorough tour to the new interface, and I have no intention to be a grammar nazi, but shouldn't the word "scroll to up" said "scroll up" or "[click here to] go back up" or "scroll to top"? A small and very minor details, but it might help boost the sense of professionalism

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/29/Q57Kq.jpeg

Much better looking retro design for sinbad website, and I really like the new pixelated logo.
This probably means that we are going to see some changes soon in sinbad signature campaign  :)

Why didn't you use some bitcoin vanity address with ''sinbad' letters?

Congratulations on the new design!
I find this design much more suited to the service while still keeping it simple.

I still changed one or another detail. But it's just a detail, nothing special. I hope much success with this new design. Once again, congratulations.

The web display is quite good and very comfortable for the user's eyes. I also want to congratulate you on the technical work done.
In addition to the overall web display design, the sinbad logo design is very cool with a pixelated concept.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/31/QKWoj.png

Congratulations on the good work from me.

I wasn't sure of the time those games were popular but yeah, the retro design is cool  :)

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Suggestion regarding the number of hours.
When I first saw the Zero hours, I actually thought it was an expression "oh"  :D until I clicked on the down facing arrow. Maybe 0hrs or 0 hours could be match better?

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/31/QONro.png
Also, why is it in multiples of 1 hr and not maybe 15 mins or 30 mins?

The website is very good and very pleasing to the eyes it takes away the simplicity of the design that makes scammers easy to replicate the site, I've checked the cloned sites and many of them cannot keep up with the design, and the original is the only one with all this information this is the mark of the right site, especially the Bitcointalk link.
Congratulations to the team, and to all working toward the success of Sinbad.io.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/02/G2uyv.png

I like the new design, it looks much better now.
I'll talk about security again, but I thought about that even with the old design. Is it perhaps a good move to place verification links in the header of the site, that is, in the upper part instead of only in the footer? Or at least some warning to check the address in the browser bar?
Impersonators and phishing sites are obviously the biggest problems with mixers, and I am certainly in favour of trying every possible way to make this type of fraud more difficult.

I love the updated website design! 

Blue and white is a very beautiful combination.  Separate elements of green and red colors look organic.  The overall impression is a very businesslike, spectacular, technological and futuristic website design.  This style of site design inspires confidence and facilitates navigation through the section.  All this, in my opinion, will allow users to use the mixer more efficiently.

I like the simple design, it's attractive and the blue color looks lively, but I still don't understand why Javascript is needed? The site does not work without it, although the interface is simple. If it is not linked to a backend, perhaps providing a version without Javascript would be better.
Looks like the campaign will get new signatures, I'm looking forward to seeing how they look.
also, There is no need for "How much should I send? & How much will I receive?" you can via javascript make it, you send, and it automatically gets you receive.

I really liked the new website design . Much better.

I misses the deadline for the avatar contest , but I made some avatar which I will share here. I tried to make them marching the new website design.

 Feel free to use it if you like Sinbad.io and Royse777

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/02/GU5x8.jpeg

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/02/GU9P3.png

I used bing image creator (dall e) to help me generate the image,  but they were edited. They are free to use for commercial and business use
https://www.pcguide.com/apps/is-dall-e-2-copyright-free/

Nice to see a new website design. Quite some development since the launch of this project.

Shame I missed the contest deadline.
Had a few concepts in mind, here is one of them.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/02/GU0PW.png

If still interested in these, pm me.

I am thinking of extending the avatar contest. The reasons

1. We did not receive enough images to find a winner
2. The branding of website also changed so anything that was done using the previous creatives are now have no use.

But before all these, I need to find a new signature set. In the process of discussing the new development with the management. Once we will have a confirmed decision then I will update.

The second one looks better, sharper, and is more modern. But considering the old-school retro look of Sinbad's new website, I feel like the first one is a better fit.

No issues with the design itself, but the colors don't match the blue and purple look of Sinbad. Maybe a color edit with the new style might be better.

Reasons that Royse can accept.
I visited the sinbad.io avatar contest thread not many people participated so I feel it will be difficult for you and your team to judge who is the best to be the winner.
I've also shared information about the avatar contest on local boards to make this information more widespread.

I think the avatar made by bitmover is very pleasing when I look at it. There is a combination of the avatar design with the new look of the web that has been completed.
If you and bitmover will allow it, I will use that avatar from now on.

We will gladly wait for the latest signature set.

Hello, I'm a new member of the forum for starters.  But I have lurked on occasions to learn more about this stuff. I think I made a pretty big mistake using your mixer. I was stupid for not reading your FAQ first, I thought the whole process sounded pretty straightforward. Needless to say, I'm not that smart when it comes to this type of stuff haha.

Anyways, your FAQ said to NEVER send coins from a market wallet (like Coinbase) to the mixer address. I actually ended up doing that. Is this going to turn into a big deal? Will Coinbase close out my account? Or will even worse stuff happen, it's my own fault but because I'm unsure of the consequences I'd like to know if anybody else has made this mistake before.

Thanks for your time,
John

Nothing against this one or the others that were made.
I'm just of the opinion, as I've already mentioned, that there should be harmony between all these elements (website, signature and avatar).

The site is now at a very good design level. Signature should be updated, to something closer to the site. And then have the avatar do the final linking.

New signature and avatar set will be posted very soon, I hope everyone will like it. I am just waiting for the designer to send me the codes. The avatar contest will be extend 1 more week to receive designs that will match the new branding patterns.

I don't think this will be an issue at all. A mixer like sinbad.io is not selective on which source the Bitcoin comes from, and it's none of coinbase's business in knowing which address the bitcoins were withdrawn too.

I don't think they will close your account.

The issue usually arises when the Bitcoins are moved from a mixer to a centralized exchange. Some exchanges are so cocky and they might block your account.

The advice not to make a direct transaction from the exchange to the mixer is more of a precautionary measure. Sending from any service where the user does not have control over the private key can always be considered with a slightly higher risk because it can be marked as a reason for blocking the account and seizing funds.
A scenario that should definitely be avoided, we have also seen more senseless reasons for withholding users' funds.
I would say that Coinbase is one of the more rigorous services in this regard.

Sure, I started it and then didn't get back to it and missed the deadline. Colouring as well as text and some details will be adjusted accordingly. The text in the example is also just a placeholder. Thanks for the feedback.

That's great news, one more week!
I checked the avatar contest OP but it's closed - will a new thread be opened for that or where should we submit our designs? This time I am in and can most likely make the deadline.

Did Coinbase send the withdrawal to Sinbad's address? If the transaction went through, you should be OK. But for your own safety, don't do this in the future. Some centralized exchanges don't like funds being connected to services like mixers, coinjoins, or online casinos. They can freeze funds, ask for reasons you are using such services, source of your funds, etc. That's why it's recommended to use your own private and non-custodial wallet where you aren't being restricted or monitored. Better yet, don't use services that limit the ways you want to use bitcoin.

Thanks for all the replies, I greatly appreciate it! The transaction did go through without any problems, I will however refrain from doing this in the future. Can I use the same non-custodial wallet to funnel the pre-mixed and post-mixed coins through?

Say, for example, I create one address to send the pre-mixed coins to from Coinbase. Then I send the coins from that address to the mixer, then back to the same wallet on another address?

Or would it be best to use a entirely different wallet for that intermediary process?

Thank you all for the help.

You can, but only if you avoid UTXOs (Unspent Transaction Outputs) from pre-mixed Bitcoin address when you finally decide to spend your mixed bitcoins in a new transaction.
Co-spending bitcoins from both addresses in a transaction which automatically happens with some software wallets will create a link and show that addresses belong to the same HD wallet, so your mixing attempt will have been in vain.

To avoid this scenario, you can create two different wallets with different seeds on the same noncustodial wallet software like electrum. One from pre-mixed bitcoins and the other for mixed Bitcoins.

I agree with JeromeTash here. To avoid possible connections between mixed and unmixed coins in the future, it's better to separate them altogether by having two different wallets (not two addresses as part of the same wallet). But let me ask you this: after you have mixed your coins and decoupled their history, do you have plans to send these coins back to Coinbase in the future? Because if you do, we might be going back to the question will Coinbase ask questions why your coins are connected with mixing services, where they come from, etc.

If your wallet is empty, with zero balance  , there is no risk of using old utxo, if you don't reuse any address.

If you know how to work with your utxo , you don't even need to create a new wallet.

A guide here

https://bitcoinelectrum.com/how-to-spend-specific-utxos-in-electrum/
https://bitcoinelectrum.com/files/2021/02/coins-selected.jpg

But it is safer just to make a new wallet, as suggested above.

Mistakes can happen, and since it doesn't cost anything to create a brand-new wallet only for mixed coins to separate it from the unmixed ones, I think it's better to do that.

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I am looking at the new signatures and can't help to feel that more emphasize could be given to the onion link instead of the clearnet version of Sinbad. Only the part on the far left with the skull contains the TOR link, while everything else has the clearnet link. As a compromise, perhaps the far right box (MIX NOW) could also point to the onion link. That way we would have the ends of the sig pointing to the onion link, while the center of the sig contains the clearnet link.

I would argue that decision is very dependent on the usage profile. I have no idea about percentage of people that access sinbad trough TOR, if it is small and I expect it is, I would argue that it shouldn't even be in the sig or that it should have been clearly marked as TOR link.

My logic is that those that want to use TOR are usually expert users and will find their way to needed links while there is certainly some amount of newbies that could simply go to competition since they would think the page is not working after clicking on TOR link.

Just be hovering your mouse over the skull containing the TOR link, you will se the onion domain at the bottom left of your browser. Those who know what it is will understand how to open it.

More emphasize should be put in mixing through TOR as it's a privacy boost compared to mixing via the clearnet. Ultimately, it's Sinbad's decision to decide what they feel is the best for their business model.

In the latest signature, the onion link is only on the Sinbad logo. 90% of the rest of the signature leads to the clearnet site. Maybe that's the relationship you're talking about. I agree that it might be a better solution for the TOR link to be indicated in the signature.


I remember that ChiMixer worked only with the TOR site for a long time. But even so, he played a dominant role in the mixer industry. I would say that it is an obvious example that this segment should not be ignored.

Those long-time users of mixers already know that there are Tor versions so they have Tor on their device, but those who just want to use Sinbad Mixer for the first time and may not have Tor on their device will think twice about using Sinbad.

The clearnet already has a Tor link and it's visible on the homepage, the clearnet converts new users to use Sinbad because of its accessibility.

I'm sure in their panel they can monitor what versions convert more users, and besides the competitors are also using their clearnet version in their signature.

That's right. The clearnet site was sometimes DDOSed and unavailable. So they decided to use the clearnet site to advertise their onion domain and advise users to use that instead. Sinbad shouldn't give up on their clearnet site and each user should have a choice of what to use. But some sort of guide or recommendations wouldn't be bad. For example, one of their FAQs could explain proper mixing practices and mention TOR there. A link from the landing page could say how to mix with Sinbad and lead to instructions which mention using the onion site, and that sort of thing.

Just a reminder, August 12 is the deadline for participation in the Sinbad.io prediction contest. For a valid application, the guesses must be submitted in both periods.
thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461992.0

Every now and then I use this mixer and I feel good, but there is one thing that bothers me a little. The link of the mixing session, disappears and becomes invalid as soon as he has finished the mixing work. For example, my mixing is finished a little while ago, and the session link no longer works, but I would have liked to check with my own eyes on the page.
24 hours have not yet passed.

How long do you want it to be?
Mixing Bitcoin as a service is thought to increase privacy, with as few links to the final owner of the coin as possible. A very important part of the whole process is the deletion of all logs and information about finished transactions.

Yes, what you say, technically it is right. Mine is just an old habit of the "destroy this session" button

Done with my second prediction I also created a thread in my local board inviting my fellows to join to get more awareness of this contest.

Bitcoin Price Prediction (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5463351.0)

I also did it on August 12th on a local board to let them know that sinbad.io is providing a bitcoin price challenge prediction for August, given that people's interest in speculating prices is very active on the forums. So I think it would be great if it was followed to test the level of luck in analyzing the price of bitcoin will end at what price level.

I did that shortly after examplens reminded me about the SINBAD.IO MIXER August Price Prediction Challenge in this thread.

Here he is, Bitcoin Price Prediction (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=751577.msg62685184#msg62685184).

So, if you win a prize, I can expect at least one beer from you  ;D

If my prediction is right, I will be happy to accompany you to drink beer. But I don't drink ;D
What if I give you something other than beer?

The price prediction that I sent here seems to have missed. But I'm sure with the price guess at the end of August ;D

Maybe that suggestion will be heard from you if you want it to be valid a little bit longer. But as explained, it has something to do with the users privacy and sinbad don't take those information as it's part of the mixing service. But let's see if that sounds good for the devs.

Have you guys checked out the designs that the Bitcointalk members created for the Sinbad avatar campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462254.0;all) that was brought to an end 2 days ago? There are many really good looking creations there, and picking a winner won't be easy.

Among the designs, I particularly liked bitmover's avatars. I also have my eyes on SamReomo's red-hat-wearing pirate from his second entry. cafter's third design from the third entry looks nice. 
Who do you think will win?

I personally think it doesn't sound good [me and my own opinion, of course]. If a session needs a manual termination button, there's a chance someone forgot to click the button, and thus, one step backward from privacy [as explained by examplens and bhadz]. If dev wants to venture into an option to manually terminate a session, I think it'll be better to reverse the proposed idea; instead of having the manual termination button by default, dev add a check mark to allow people to keep the session longer or until they pressed the termination button. Otherwise, the sessions will end like always.

Not sure about the implications behind this, though. Wouldn't it mean sinbad has to keep a log [albeit selectively] to cater this idea? I can imagine some people will not welcome this idea.

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I loved icalical's and PX-Z's first design, the pixelated ones, purely because it matched the current retro-pixelated theme of the site

Yeah, i have been visiting that thread from time to time and i am impressed by the quality of the designs that have been created for the Avatar contest, it is going to be difficult for the Sinbad management to pick a winner, because even though we didn't get too many contestants; many of the submitted entries are very good.
I like Woodie's first entry and also the design of PX-Z, but goodluck to everyone.

I always like avatars without a background, i.e. avatars that are not square. That's why my choice would be PX-Z or icalical pirate flag, or even cafter pirate hat.
However, if it is not insisted that the avatar is in accordance with the new website design, Woodie and bitmover entries look great and can certainly be a good choice.



Again, leaving a log with any data is in complete contradiction to what the mixer offers and what is the basic purpose of such a service. It is certain that many would not be happy with such an idea. The good functionality of a service is reflected in its simplicity and the fact that the end user cannot make a mistake or overlook something. By introducing an additional action such as manually deleting the log, the matter is unnecessarily complicated. Plus, I believe that most users would not return to delete the log after the transaction is complete.

The flag is very similar to the current avatar design. The skull looks identical and so does the Sinbad.io text. The background color is a bit darker. But the "protecting your privacy" part is too small for my old eyes and taste.

I completely agree with you here. As long as the session has finished, I don't mind if Sinbad deletes the entire history. I would welcome it. And I really hope they do and not that some logs are kept on a server somewhere that no one knows about.

Yes, that's a good idea by having that feature and it's just like an expiration if ever the user forgots to do that and the devs don't have anything to do with it. The session can be ended on an instant based on the user's discretion and if not, it is automatically gone based on the set period of time.

I'll use this chance to re-emphasize that I personally think it's not a good idea. Having a possibility to manually terminate a session by preference implies that Sinbad keep a log of user's transaction. Be it due to the user's request and preference or not, it's a step back from the anonimity that supposed to be offered by a mixer. It'll be a very great assurance to anyone that the platform --any mixer platform-- does not keep a log longer than it needed to be [that is, until the transaction is finished].

In the avatar contest we were able to shortlisted 6 participants. We need to filter out and need to keep only two participants / two set of entries. We may consider your feedback in it too to filter it to two. Please let us know.

The shortlisted entries we are considering:
icalical : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462254.msg62694351#msg62694351 (1 and 2, from the set: https://i.ibb.co/mcFM91X/1.png)
PX-Z: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462254.msg62700517#msg62700517 (1, from the set: https://i.ibb.co/BCBXqNB/Screenshot-2.png)
xLays: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462254.msg62701582#msg62701582
tjtonmoy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462254.msg62686891#msg62686891 (1st set)
SamReomo:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462254.msg62666486#msg62666486 (https://i.ibb.co/kHbTFVh/SInbad-io-3.png)
cafter: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462254.msg62680588#msg62680588 (https://i.ibb.co/gFPd8F9/Screenshot-1.png)

We will read carefully your opinion before picking up the final two.

Cheers,

While everyone is open for their opinion. I would like to seek attention from the signature campaigners too. In case you guys miss to read here you all go:


I did not dare to PM any of you because of the past experience LOL

So, two participants with two avatars for each of them? I am liking:

icalical's pirate flag (https://i.ibb.co/zXcwR7x/1.png) and treasure map (https://i.ibb.co/gzXwzt7/2.png) entry (https://i.ibb.co/mcFM91X/1.png), and cafter's pirate hat (https://imgur.com/a/Bq64Xq8) from first and third image of entry number 1 PX-Z's flag (https://i.ibb.co/BCBXqNB/Screenshot-2.png) for the reason that I shared with examplens, I liked and always think avatar without background [i.e. not square] is neat.

Edit: Sorry, I understand correctly that our votes are limited to the ones you mark in red square? Thus, cafter's avatar will be from his third entry (https://i.ibb.co/gFPd8F9/Screenshot-1.png)? On that case, I am revising my vote to PX-Z's set number 1. Though if I may give my two cents without disrespecting your choice, cafter's hat is also nice

I am not really sold on any of them, I like simple yet striking avatars preferably without background. Maybe something like cafter pirate hat but that one is not in contention.

PX-Z flag is good but I would remove "protect your privacy" text and enlarge the actual picture on avatar. Seems way too cluttered as it is now.

Best of luck to the other 5 contestants! Creative work will surely stand out.

Anyway, I'm wearing one of my Avatar design since I'm not joining any avatar campaign right now. Just to showcase how it actually looks like when someone is wearing it.

I am personally not a big fan of avatars resembling flags. That, therefore, excludes some of the shortlisted participants.
From those that remain, I like the following two the most.

- The third entry by cafter.
- The second creation by xLays with one suggested modification. I would prefer if the skull & swords image would take central position. The horizontal line could be made smaller and moved further to the right.

As I've commented before, I think Avatar should follow the line of the site, to build a brand that clearly identifies SINBAD. If avatars are used that do not follow the same graphic image of the site, it becomes more difficult to build that brand. But, this is of course just my opinion.

That said, and looking only at the six options chosen, I would say that the one closest to my opinion is this one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462254.msg62701582#msg62701582

@Icalical's 3rd entry is my best pick of all his entries, it's an affront to the current avatar schemes so I like something refreshing to look at although I hope he can sharpen the colors a bit or balance the background and the text

@PX-Z 1st entry is my best pick of all his entries, the one bit vibes is awesome, the pirate theme is strong especially with the worn out flag design.

@xLays have the same feels as my pick on PX-Z entry, although I would like more changes since it's almost the same as the current avatar.

I don't feel like picking any from @tjtonmoy's entry, the 1st entry is similar vibes to the current avatar but the color scheme of neon seems not in the direction of the brand.

@SamReomo's 2nd entry is my kind of style although I would love it if the Jolly Roger is a bit bigger than the lock and utilize the negative spaces more or at least lessen it.

@cafter's 2nd and 3rd entry is my pick, the 2nd has the simplistic design but still slick looking, good color scheme too although I don't know if that's fine with the brand, 3rd entry looks like your typical campaign avatar, can never go wrong with that.

If I were to have a Top 3 I would probably go 1st with @cafter's 3rd entry, SamReomo's @2nd entry would be the 2nd, and @PX-Z's 1st entry would be my 3rd.

To all the participants who have done the best design, I want to say that you have extraordinary artistry. I really appreciate the sinbad.io avatar designs you made, including @icalical.

Of all the entries, there are two avatar entries that I like in this contest which were made by bitmover and xLays, although bitmover was not included in the list of shortlisted participants. Of course I have a different review of the two.

1. Design courtesy of bitmover (picture number 3)

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/07/GkMJm.png
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/07/GkMJm.png
Overall good in my opinion. The logo looks lively, but a little long.

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2. Design courtesy of xLays. (picture number 2)

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/15/MUb3H.png
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/15/MUb3H.png
It's almost perfect because when combined with the update of the sinbad.io website, the avatar created by xLays really blends in.
It would be even more perfect if the logo was placed in the middle position above the writing sinbad.io

Conclusion.
If I'm in the team as the party that has the decision to require an avatar without a background, I will choose this avatar with the note that Bitmover's avatar must remove the background.
If the team agrees in assessing the avatar without any specific provisions, then my choice is the xLays avatar with a note that the logo is moved to the middle position above the words SINBAD.IO

Regards,
yudi09

I like Woodies first entry as i have said earlier, but i see they didn't make the cut for the 6 shortlisted participants, so in that case my next choice would be that of PX-Z, i see that their first design is marked in a red square, so that's the one you are considering, it is a nice and unique design which i think would be a fit for this project.

If i am to make a second choice, it is will Icalical's design, i see that two of theirs is marked in a red square, i will go for the second entry, i love the design as it is something different from the usual avatar designs we see on the forum. These are my personal feedbacks, goodluck to everyone.

My vote goes for SamReomo first entry. I believe this is the best one, beautiful colors and certainly an avatar I would enjoy wearing.

Congratulations for all who made to the finals 👏

I pick this from cafter

https://i.ibb.co/31DxG3Z/18.png

The reason why I choose this: Pretty clean-looking avatar IMO. While it clearly represents the brand, it also keeps it minimal and eye-catching. One glance and you know what you are looking at. Interesting concept. 

This one from PX-Z

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/15/M25QP.png

The reason why I choose this: The design itself is very interesting. Pixels coming together to make up the whole thing. If I get a chance to do something with it, I will keep the SINBAD.IO, remove the extra words and make the logo a bit bigger so that it is more clear. Overall, this is a great design.

If I were to pick one from mine, then this would be the one

https://i.postimg.cc/d3Mmt6GP/LOGO-2.png

The reason why I choose this: I don't know if it's ok to vote one from my entry. But I guess this one is good. This is just my opinion. Your key , your coin, and Sinbad.io is protecting your privacy. That's why the key and lock. Not good enough to be the 1st or 2nd so I will keep it in 3rd.

[These are just my own picks. The team can decide what they like the most.]

I picked this one among the others because the logo and image appear to be some sort of code combination, and only the designer knows how many code combinations were added together in order to get the full image arranged that way. Looking at the image alone will leave you, the viewer, with some sort of idea of how it was done, keeping the entire process secret and anonymous. Which is also what the mixer is all about: to mix your coin and give you a totally different thing that can't be linked to your old address. I see the image as the perfect one for Sinbad, among other collections.


I could have voted for the first entry as it almost has the same criteria as my first choice, but the write-up "Protecting your privacy" appears unnecessary to me as we already have that on the signature code.
So I will go with the second entry, as it appears simple but unique to me.

I made an effort to quote the entries that qualified for the final winner based on Royse post here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416985.msg62722337#msg62722337). Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I noticed that someone from the signature campaign participants chose an entry that Royse didn't include here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416985.msg62722337#msg62722337).

I've got two choices, since you want to breakdown the participants into too so here's what I think.

I like PX-Z's design but I like most the blue design of his.

And for the 2nd pick of mine, I like tjtonmoy's 2nd entry and that is because it seems colorful for me and that's like a bright design.

Good luck everyone, all of you are good designers. You're giving Royse an headache to pick the best designs.  ;D

If our feedback comes in as votes here are my two...

Will go for avatar 2>>> The scroll 📜  design is a must have as it has that pirate touch to it..which kind of goes with the theme of Sinbad.

#1 certainly has that upgrade touch of the first avatar flag we had when we had the old brand and I think this maintains the brand idea by design, and in the spirit
of continuity I love it  8)

Goodluck @icalical  @PX-Z

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Definitely eye catching and if its for the purpose of marketing , this another to consider :)

**with a highlight of a bright color to the skull, this should be a master piece**

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Edit, change of heart

1.https://i.ibb.co/Gvv71dF/download-3.png

2. https://i.ibb.co/2NwsQs6/2sm.png

Most of the entries are outstanding and I guess it will be difficult to even select the final six entries. I wish we would just choose our best as personal avatars. Nevertheless, my first choice is SamReomo's design because his work is unique and the name of the service came out bold and clear. I also liked the way he placed the objects in the avatar.
https://i.ibb.co/kHbTFVh/SInbad-io-3.png

And cafter's' work will be my second option because of his creative use of colors and also the clarity of Sinbad.io. He came up with something different from the rampant black-and-white color.
https://i.ibb.co/gFPd8F9/Screenshot-1.png

@Nwada001 it will be of great help if you added another entry to the vote as the podium is for 2 spots and you gave only one  8)

Nicely presented.

We will make a conclusion soon before we do, we can use some help. Cam someone count who got how many recommendation from members on this thread?

icalical :
PX-Z :
xLays :
tjtonmoy :
cafter :
SamReomo :

So far, ignoring the ones that's voted outside the limitations [e.g.: user X's entry number 1 though what's asked is number 2 and 3 and taking the first two being mentioned for the case of someone who voted more than two], the votes go like this:

holydarkness: icalical, PX-Z
Trofo: PX-Z
xLays: xLays [well... kinda]
Pmalek: cafter, xLays
joker_josue: xLays
Latviand: cafter, SamReomo, PX-Z
yudi09: bitmover, xLays
Z-tight: PX-Z, icalical
bitmover: SamReomo's first entry
tjtonmoy: cafter, PX-Z, tjtonmoy
Nwada001: PX-Z, icalical
bullrun2020bro: cafter, SamReomo
bhadz: PX-Z [though he technically voted the "blue design"], tjtonmoy's second entry
Woodie: SamReomo, icalical
Fiatless: SamReomo, cafter
examplens: PX-Z, icalical
Renampun: icalical, PX-Z
CryptoHeadlineNews: icalical, SamReomo, cafter
Compromise me: icalical
Wind_FURY: PX-Z
Smartprofit: tjtonmoy
Robelneo: tjtonmoy
Negotiation: PX-Z, icalical
Asuspawer09: icalical, PX-Z

Thus, the tally goes:

icalical : 10 [holydarkness, Z-tight, Woodie, examplens, Nwada001, Renampun, CryptoHeadlineNews, Compromise me, Negotiation, Asuspawer09]
PX-Z : 11 [holydarkness, Trofo, Z-tight, tjtonmoy, Nwada001, bhadz, examplens, Renampun, Wind_FURY, Negotiation, Asuspawer09]
xLays : 4 [xLays, Pmalek, joker_josue, yudi09]
tjtonmoy : 3 [tjtonmoy, Smartprofit, Robelneo]
cafter : 4 [Pmalek, Latviand, bullrun2020bro, Fiatless]
SamReomo : 5 [Latviand, bullrun2020bro, Woodie, Fiatless, CryptoHeadlineNews]

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Edit: [changes that happened after this post]

Log:
Adding examplens' vote
Adding Nwada001's 2nd entry
Adding Renampun's vote
Adding CryptoHeadlineNews' vote
Adding Compromise me's vote
Adding Wind_FURY's vote
Adding Smartprofit's vote
Adding Robelneo's vote
Adding Negotiation's vote [pending clarification]
Adding Asuspawer09's vote

Yea, I missed part of this voting. As I taught, we are just entitled to any amount of vote. I could have just edited my entry and added my second choice, but the counting has already been done, so I doubt if it will be counted as a valid vote again.

Edit: I have edited and added my second choice as it appears that a recount will still be done and it will be considered valid.

you can decide the second winner by this method (because many members have 4 votes:
which member have more votes of different designs which is not listed by Royse777 on this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416985.msg62722337#msg62722337).

I already said earlier that my choice is avatars with a transparent background.
So, It would look like this
1. PX-Z pirate flag
2. icalical no 2 design

Do it, my tally is not the closing mark of the competition, it's just there simply because Royse asked for help and I happen to have a bit free time during my morning coffee. I am sure it's still open until Royse said so. I'll refect this edit as well as other entries that's posted after my recap through my own edit [I'll sweep through the votes once more after Royse officially close it].

sorry royse777 I'm a bit late in voting, I really like the two avatar designs from @icalical & @PX-Z, the designs of both are very unique and creative, can the prizes available be split in half for both LOL :D

An avatar is meant to be a pictorial representation of what a service offers, whereby any user with a glance at an avatar should be able to have a clue of what to expect from such a service. So in regards to this contest, I guess the rest participants were disqualified simply because they never used the logo owned by Sinbad Mixer, which we all know how copyright violation is a big offense in the online space.

However, here are my design picks, as I was able to rate them in order of my best choice to the least.

1st Choice

2nd Choice

3rd Choice

NOTE: I was able to observe that the avatar designed by "xLays" and "tjtonmoy" are almost the same with the current Sinbad campaign avatar, and for a contest such as this, we should expect something new which represent Sinbad in a glance. However, I wish everyone best of luck.

If you understand the meaning of this avatar, it's like a treasure map where secrets are hidden. This is a hopeful avatar signature, and it will suit Sinbad .io Mixer very well.
1: icalical

I appreciate your consideration counting me, but I'm currently not part of the Sinbad.io Bitcointalk avatar/signature campaign.

Also, I believe that if I do become part of the avatar/signature campaign voting for your own design might not count unless Royse specified it about voting.

I'm very thankful to everyone who voted for my design. I have spent a lot of time to design those avatars, the appreciation and support from you guys is really what I needed the most and I truly appreciate the support. I hope that my hard work won't be a waste due to the support that I got from you guys! I'm very thankful to everyone who supported my design that qualified in the contest and also my other designs which were liked by the reputed members.

https://i.ibb.co/dPzjJR5/The-avatar.jpg


I'm very thankful to @Woodie for apply the avatar on his profile. It looks really good on your profile mate. Thanks once again to everyone who supported my designs. And, I wish all other contestants best of luck from my side because everyone has given their best to create those avatar designs. Thanks to Royse for hosting this amazing contest! I would be eagerly waiting for the final decision. Thanks!

Next time, ask that the choices follow a certain pattern, as it will be easier to collect the votes. If there was a standard I could make a file that compiled everything more easily (as I did for price predictions). This makes it more complicated to create this file.

My only choice, PX-Z.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/15/M25QP.png

I like it, it looks like an old ripped pirate flag. 8)

Can I try to use it for one day?

Yes feel free.

In fact, let's do this: I will suggest everyone to update their avatar with the avatar they like most from following:


One avatar was overlooked which was submitted by Joker_josue, use this too.


Thursday is our payday. I will check which avatar received the most attention when I will count the posts to pay.

Please send the message to all signature campaign participants:

Those who are not in our signature and avatar campaign, please just let us know your choice if you still have not. Two best choice you think should win please.

@holydarkness. very good job buddy. Your help is highly appreciated.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416985.msg62726873#msg62726873

Keep it up, it's really helpful.

We will pick our winners on Thursday evening UTC.

Forum users suggested many interesting options for the new avatar of the Sinbad.io company.  Of the best options, it is very difficult to choose the best option.  

I remember my childhood when I was presented with a set of plastic voluminous soldiers.  I wanted to choose the best soldier from the set to put under my pillow at night so that I could have an interesting dream about his exciting adventures at night!  

However, the choice was very difficult.  Sometimes it seemed to me that a worthy candidate for being under my pillow was one plastic soldier, and sometimes a completely different plastic soldier.  

In fact, I was delighted with all the soldiers from the set presented to me!  

Now I feel the same.  But I need to choose and I choose the third avatar of the forum member tjtonmoy.  This avatar is bright and voluminous.  Purple color looks very unusual.

Since it was forgotten, I'm going to take advantage and promote what I did.  :P


For those who want to use it, follow the files with less than 100kb to be able to use it as an avatar:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/22/MIOf3.jpeg  https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/22/MIWKw.jpeg  https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/22/MIqA9.jpeg

Now I am posting with new avatar  :D


Royse777, it would probably be good if you add new avatars to the first or second post in the campaign thread. I assume that we can change some of the offered avatars during participation in the campaign.


The Sinbad.io website has some shades of purple, so such avatars can be considered adapted to it.

Actually, the background for that avatar was created using  color picker tool from the official website. You can see some resemblance with that. And the touch of purple was my idea. Gives a kind of vibrant and neon feeling. Which is in my opinion, eye-catching. Also, the file is editable and you can choose whatever color you like. If someone asks me to change its color, I would be very happy to do so. Not sure if it's against the rules of this competition.
just an attempt. Don't count this as a part of the competition.
https://i.postimg.cc/Z59zkS0W/LOGO-3-1.jpg

Not confident enough on everyone likes it. But it is what it is. I personally like my 2nd avatar from 1st set. Every letter was created by hand. So I am wearing it now.

Many many thanks to Royse777 for giving us such an opportunity to wear our own avatar.

Also thanks to Smartprofit for choosing my avatar. This is an honor.

This one one looks like an upgrade of what Sinbad v2 avatar was designed too...some soft fork I suppose , clean and simple I like it 👌

Hope we get multiple avatars to choose from as our daily driver's..

I'll have this one, an avatar should have everything on it, the logo, the name of the site, and the description, some entries have all of these but this one for me is more appealing to me.

Congratulations to all participants all designs are great.

Sorry @Royse777 late for an opinion, Almost everyone did well. Thanks to everyone for participating.


But most like is this and updated.

One of the people you mean is me. I'm trying to respond to the avatar that was entered in the contest thread and the avatar that I'm reviewing is bitmover avatar because my eyes are drawn to the design that was made  ;)

Because one of the avatars that I chose is not included in the dominance you listed, I think it's better if I change and use the avatar that was announced as the winner. Avatar who won, means that's the best for me to apply.
I agree with examplens offer.

Yeah you're not the only one. And thank you for choosing my design. The individuals who voted for options not included in the final designs can be seen here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416985.msg62726873#msg62726873), indicated by a strikethrough on their names.

Also, regarding this link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416985.msg62726873#msg62726873), it appears that both me, icalical, and tjtonmoy have submitted multiple entries for selection. I've observed that the votes are being counted per participant and not per designs entry.

it's so sad to see i just received 4 votes after producing this much creative avatar's: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462254.msg62680588#msg62680588
 

https://i.ibb.co/dWK1Hp4/bgjss.png

Do not be sad ;)
Your design is completely correct, honestly, I would emphasize these two in particular. Maybe I'll even use one of them, I guess it will be allowed.
Your other suggestions may be outside the expected design and follow-up of the website's appearance.

A suggestion:
Even though there are winners for Avatars, my suggestion was the possibility of selecting a set of avatars that can be assigned to several users.

Some campaigns have done this, and it could be something interesting. Here's the suggestion.

This is a good idea.

To have one avatar for each signature participant is very nice.

Sinbad now has several avatars. Many of the finalists look very similar, and everyone could  use a different one.

You don't have to be sad, the avatars you created were very good; and a final decision on all of this hasn't even been given yet by the manager and the Sinbad management team, even if you don't win the reward in the end, users in the campaign may use your avatar design if the manager allows it.
Not a bad suggestion, and i believe the manager may consider it after the Avatar contest is concluded.

I assume Royse will let participants choose their own final avatar from the winner with multiple entries, for instance, suppose icalical's design is the winner, the available avatar valid for use will be both of his entries and the participants are free to choose which of his two design, much like there are previously two design for avatar that participants are free to choose which fit them the most.

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FWIW, I really liked your hat design and will absolutely choose yours suppose the pirate hats are available for votes.

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I understand correctly that your choices are PX-Z and icalical?

icalical is my number 1 pick Obviously with a simple and creative avatar, it's unique to others as well he really deserves to win, There was also a lot more pixel so it's much more detailed so you can see the treasure map tear which I kind of like.  And it's a great idea since it's Sinbad It's already aligned to the Sinbad campaign it's going to be a great avatar for sure.


and PX-Z is my 2nd pick it's already a great pirate flag but the flag was already used in some design I guess, it's still a great and creative design but I just doesnt like that the flag designs that way even though it is intended to be pixelated or it's a pixelated art since the text has higher reso.

Yes, that's exactly what it looks like, that the vote was been counted per participant and not per entry, because moreover, everybody was free to submit more than 1 entry, which if you didn't, then that's the advantage they have to gain against people with 1 entry. But for me, i will it would have been best if Sir Royse777 and Sinbad team could just go straight to picking the final 2 winners, so as to stop any further drama that vote was meant to be counted per entry and not participants. While we buy the idea of "joker_josue" to assign a set of avatar to each campaign rank or participant.

Just a reminder, August 24th is the last day for the second prediction in the Sinbad contest.
SINBAD,IO MIXER August Price Prediction Challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461992.0)

Useful reminder for those who haven't provided bitcoin price predictions yet. The final time calculation in my area for the end of August 24th ends in about 5 hours and 10 minutes left.
And for friends who are in different time zones, this must be put to good use if you want to take part in the bitcoin price prediction contest at sinbad.io.

The price of bitcoin is currently at 26,511.16 and could change again (up or down). Quickly analyze the closing price in August. Who knows the prediction is true.. :P

According to the avatar preferred choice currently shown on the spreadsheet of the signature campaign, I can notice, out of the 44 campaign participants (i.e Both green screen, main & avatar), only 24 participants uploaded their preferred choice of avatar from the selected eligible ones as presented by Sir Royse777, whereas we have Px-z taking the lead vote, with the rest as follows shown below;

Px-z avatar got chosen by 7 persons
SamReomo avatar got chosen by 4 persons
Joker Josue avatar got chosen by 1 person
Crafter avatar got chosen by 4 persons
Icalical avatar got chosen by 4 persons
tjtonmoy avatar got chosen by 3 persons
XLay avatar got chosen by 1 person

Sum total= 24 persons

We have our winners and have an honorable mention in mind too. I will request Sinbad management to announce the honorable mention once they will get time.

It was really difficult for all of us to pick the winners but we gave our best. First we thought to pick the winners internally but then we decided to pick one winner internally and another winner from community choice. Sinbad management wants you to understand that you are very important for them, just like family.

Let me announce our winners then.

xLays is our internal pick

PX-Z is our community choice.

PX-Z sent me a clear version of the avatar with another version which are below.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/22/MF0IH.png
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/22/MFDQJ.png

So we will add it in our winning list.

Congratulations to the winners.
I have bech32 address from both of you. After announcing the honorable mention by Sinbad Management, I will give them your addresses so that you get the reward. Finally we will add these avatars for the signature campaign thread. In the mean time anyone is free to pick one from the winning avatars and wear it.

Thank you everyone who participated in this avatar contest and also thank you who helped us to pick the winners.

Congratulations to the winners: xLays and PX-Z, and even to those who didn't win, you made the contest competitive and i am sure the Sinbad management team will be glad that you all participated.
There were so many good designs that couldn't win because of the competition, and i'm sure there'll be users that would want to wear some of those designs, to be sure: we're only allowed to pick one avatar from two winners listed above right?

I am glad that xLays is one of the two winners because their avatar was one of my two favorites for this contest. Like I said earlier, I wish the skull was centered perfectly in the middle for an even better overall impression, but nevermind. I have already updated the avatar and looking forward to how it will look once the Bitcointalk server does its thing.

Congratulations to all winners!   

It's always tough to pick limited winners where all members worked on some kind of creativity. I congratulate both winners xLays and PX-Z. You both worked hard and your creativity has been appreciated by team and community so your gift is on the way. This contest was good one and unfortunate didn't participated but you all guys make a great job.

Congratulations to the winners of the contest! I have also given my best to create my version of avatars but unfortunately none of them were good enough to make me win the contest. I still think I won in the contest because I've learnt a lot about designing of avatars when I gave my time to design those avatars and that's quite an amazing victory for me.

Another important thing I've noticed is that some of the valuable participants of the campaign have applied my version of avatar on their profiles which is a great victory for me. I'm very thankful to all of those participants who have applied my design on their profiles. I request Royse and Sinbad team to allow those users to keep my version of avatar on their profiles  even though my avatar wasn't a winning one but those members really like it and that's why they applied it on their profiles.

I congratulate the winners from the core of my heart and I believe that they deserve the victory due to the hard work they gave to this amazing contest. Congratulations to PX-Z and xLays from my side, and I wish that you both may get more success in your lives. Once again thanks to all those members of the campaign who have applied my avatar design on their profiles I truly appreciate that.

Congratulations to the winners, does it mean we can only use avatars from either of the two or any from the finalists?

All i can say is thanks, i appreciate all the suggestions, statements towards the avatar. ;D Especially thanks to those participants who wear/vote it. It's my first time winning an avatar contest, just like i said on my entry "if i win accidentally".

Congrats to the winners, it was well deserved!
And of course, congratulations to all the participants.

It's good to have these initiatives, it helps the brand to get involved with the community. So I hope to see more of these initiatives. We look forward to Sinbad! ::)

Congratulations to all the lucky winners, and congratulations to those who also just participated but were not lucky enough to emerge as winners, as everyone's work was nice and it was out of their own creativity, which I so much appreciate.

It's actually nice that the team and Royse777 decided to honor part of the community's choice, which really means that they care about the community's decisions.
 

Yea, and playful, it has turned out to be your licky day, as you really have out something out of your own thinking. Congratulations,  as you truly earned it based on the number of admirations for your work.

Thanks Royse for managing the contest –not gonna lie it might not have been flawless but you certainly handled it well!

I'd also like to extend my gratitude to the Sinbad/Bitointalk Community. Despite of receiving fewer votes from you all. Lmao (I got the 2nd to the last fewer votes) I'll be honest due to the community votes I almost lost hope of winning in this contest.

So I'm blessed that the Sinbad.io management chose my design. Again thank you so much for choosing me as a winner of this contest!

Hoping that there will be more upcoming contests by sinbad.io!

Congratulations to our two winners of this distinguish avatar contest, I guess this should be the most free, fair and interactive avatar contest I have ever witness on this forum, and it is a pleasure to finally see it come to an end. Congrats once again @ xLays and PX-Z.

Too bad, I saw this thread a little bit too late. Just found it because I checked the spread sheet to see my total post count from last week.  ;D

Anyway, my choice/vote would have been xLays as well, he did a great job with the design.

Congratulations to both winners!

Can someone confirm the current design of the Sinbad.io site, Has there been any update change in recent days?
It seems to me that all the elements are a bit bigger, the text too. Or maybe it's just something with my browser


Too bad. As a participant in the Sinbad.io signature campaign, you should at least follow their ANN thread.
You are paid to promote their service and in some way, you represent them here. It is certainly expected from the participants of the signature campaign (not only Sinbad) to get to know the brand better and follow the news that comes with it.

Come on man. I knew about the contest, but I didn't know the "voting" was taking place. I didn't mean that I didn't know this thread exists of course. I just meant I didn't check the thread and therefor didn't see the voting.
Yes I am paid to promote them, but how do I promote them in this thread, people are already here. Promotion takes place outside of this thread to actually bring people here or to the website.

I don't know why you have to write something like this, doesn't make too much sense. But you do you I guess.

I'm accessing through my tablet, so I might be wrong, but I think it does get a bit bigger. The tablet version still show them in small-ish elements, but when I toggle the switch to desktop version, it's noticably bigger. I took a screenshot from the archived page (https://archive.fo/Dv0FB) [thus, it should automatically displayed what desktop version show us] and compared it side-to-side with one that's taken by yudi09 long ago (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416985.msg62626606#msg62626606)

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/31/QKWoj.png
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/27/MBFaH.jpeg

And as another reference, this below is from my tablet with "desktop version" toggled up

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/27/MBRHC.jpeg

Yes, I confirm that the most important texts have bigger fonts now compared to last week I think this is a much better version, it is clearer now.

When it comes to what's appealing to the eyes it's always been a combination of white and blue, either white background and blue text or blue background and white text. 

First of all I would like to congratulate Px-z and the winners.
PX-Z Design is best for me. I am late to vote.  Because I was little bit of sick. I know my vote will be counted or not.  But if I were to vote, I would give him my vote. And the reason I would say is that I really like the flag-shaped avatar and its avatar is more attractive to me than the others. And I would like to thank everyone who participated in the avatar contest for creating beautiful avatars.
 However, I mentioned my personal favorite Avatar. this avatar really looking so cool.

TBH, I think it's a bit too... crowded. The "smaller" version looks more tidy and simple. Arguably "empty" perhaps, but I think it's giving a vibe of simplicity, which kinda send a message "that's what we offered you, a simple but efficient things"

To share the winners of the Sinbad prediction contest for the month of August. Congratulations to the winners

Congratulations to the winners My predictions was off for the month of August, the market is quite volatile heading to the end of the year, The sudden drop is unexpected but this is the Cryptocurrency market I'll predict before the end of the first prediction.

Congratulations to the winners of this competition (Learn Bitcoin, dkbit98, Dickiy) !

Guessing the price of bitcoin in August was very difficult!  It is currently very difficult to understand where in the cycle the price of Bitcoin is.  Is the price of Bitcoin rising or falling?  What is now - a bear market or is it already the beginning of a bull market?  Maybe we are currently seeing a local bull market?  Flat period?  

To predict the price of Bitcoin, you need to answer all these questions correctly.  And it's very difficult.  

Therefore, the winners of the August competition are great fellows!  Once again, congratulations to all three participants on winning the Sinbad Bitcoin Price Prediction Contest!

You don't need to give the correct answer, it's about predicting the value of Bitcoin. The one who makes the closest prediction gets a prize. Along with the necessary dose of knowledge, luck plays a very big role. But it's all about fun.

UP this thread with the remainder of the Prediction Challenge. September 12 is the last day for the first-guessing
Thread: SINBAD.IO Mixer September Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465305.0)

This is last month's price data doing well heading to $30k until it experienced a dip and that dip stayed on until the end of the month it hasn't recovered until now, hopefully,  before the end of the month it steps in the $30k mark I'll bet nearest to that mark I'm very positive that the price will recover.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/11/6awhI.png (https://www.talkimg.com/image/6awhI)

As I am not satisfied with the current portfolio, and I plan to collect more Bitcoins, I sincerely hope you are not right. I secretly hope that the price can go below $20k.
Every time I see some upper limit being celebrated, I'm a little surprised. I guess someone with a significant amount in their wallet is looking forward to it.

To be honest, in the back of my mind I'm hoping that Bitcoin will drop to $20k but I have friends who I invited to buy Bitcoin I did not guarantee but they are all hoping for a little profit at least before the end of the year I guess I have to tell them that market will be good next year  :D


I'm not one of them unfortunately  :(

I was lucky enough to join until the last minute of the first prediction. Looking forward to the 2nd one and for the next 2 weeks, we're going to see the winner. All the best to all of us.  :)
@sinbad.io I see that you've got two local threads, I wonder if you're needing one more. I can translate the thread and it will be my first translation job in our local board, Philippines(Pilipinas). Just let me know.  :)

I believe that any translation and publication on local boards is always welcome. You certainly don't need authorization for that, just post the link here. Your translation will probably be added to the OP post.
Many projects somewhat ignore the potential of local sections, even though they are all members who are users/lovers of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

Okay, thanks.
I might make a draft of the translation first and might submit it to them because I'm not good at putting the texts into the image and I don't want to make my own design out of it in respect for what the thread's original design is.

That's true, I just hope that our local section will be active just as the other active locals.

Go ahead bhadz do it for our community, @bhadz is very active in our community he has a good output in the local discussion he knows what's happening in our country when it comes to Cryptocurrency  I'm sure you can do a good job translating  Sinbad.io Mixer so we can promote  Sinbad.io Mixer to our Philippines(Pilipinas) community

I am very excited to take part in Cryptocurrency (BTC) Price Prediction Contest!

In a notepad on my smartphone, I prepared a template with a Bitcoin address in advance. Regularly (twice a week) I insert the predicted price of Bitcoin (at the end of the month) into the template.  After that, I publish my forecast on the forum.  I am involved in cryptocurrency investing as well as trading, so it is very important for me to clearly understand whether the cryptocurrency market is currently bearish or bullish.

And it’s very good that, in parallel with investing and trading, you have the opportunity to take part in a wonderful competition from SINBAD!  This is a game and I love this game.  Gamification makes our lives more productive and interesting.

I am currently betting that the price of Bitcoin will fall.  This is due to many circumstances. Some news in the media confirms my forecast.  Other news does not confirm my forecast, but, in my opinion, such news does not correspond to the real situation in the crypto industry.

At the end of the month it will become clear whether I was right in my forecast or not!  Thank you, SINBAD!

Get in contact with the forum representative. Not to ask for permission to do the translation but to see how the ANN was created. They might have the original slides or can point you towards whoever created it. If you are lucky, the design was made in Photoshop or a similar problem. If they send you the needed slides, all you would have to do is change the English text into your own. Piece of cake.

Yeah, that's what I'll do but I'll try to make the drafts first and present it to get permission of publishing it, it's either me or them who will publish it but much better if they will on our local or if someone will do the translation faster than me it's also better since I'm still quite busy and new to this. Yeah, those slides or the templates from the exact ann if given the permission and if they'll send it to me then that's easier as the translation will just be inserted on it.

Thanks bud, you're also as active as me there and surely will help out to promote sinbad there as well.  :D

I wanted to start a discussion about the lack of official sinbad.io activity. I think they should be more present here because it is not enough that only we ^{signature participants} represent them here. I'm not raising an alarm because of the delay in signature payments, but it reminded me of what I noticed earlier.
A lot of money comes in, either through a signature campaign, through a prediction contest, or through a design campaign, but I have the feeling that it was not used to the maximum, in large part due to the inactivity of representatives from Sinbad.
For the already sensitive area of the mixer service, inactivity brings a lot of uncertainty.
I see that the admin in the official Sinbad Telegram group is regularly active, so I believe that everything is fine with this service

A couple of things since you are insisting on asking for permission to do the translation.
If you want permission, than ask for permission before doing the translation. I doubt they will say no. Still, why spend time doing the work if you believe they could say no.
Secondly, if you aren't experienced working with text and graphics, how are you going to submit your draft to them? Will you just send a file with the text? You might again be wasting time creating your own ANN, when all you would have to do is ask them for the template files (.psd or whatever). Ultimately, it's your choice how you go about it.

Not defending Sinbad here, but I don't know what you are expecting from them, and this is the first time I hear anything about delayed payment, but Sinbad is also doing regular Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenges for months.
Maybe they could hire someone from their team to check forum few times per week and answer questions quicker, but they are never going to be in forum 24/7 every day.

Yeah Sinbad seems to have other preferences, which is their good right. I'm happy with the campaign and with the monthly contest, even though I mostly struck out there, haha.
But I also understand where examplens is coming from. Showing some more presence would definitely help their brand I think. Mostly there is someone from them online only once or twice a money, when the contest ends and starts.

About the payment and so on, it has been sent and I also think it was the first time it was actually delayed, so no need for fear here.  ;D Only problem is the transaction fee which was way too low to confirm, there have been some complaints about that already  ::) , no patience. But also bad timing to make it low since some people already waited eagerly for the payment, now they have to wait even longer. But I'm not complaining. Happy to be with sinbad.

Furthermore, I don't usually see many support requests here in the official thread. I don't know, of course, if there is this type of request via PM.
So, if no one asks for help, they end up not interacting either. This is the conclusion I reached, because of its low activity.

Now, could they be more interactive? Maybe they could, I can agree on that. At least to feel your presence more. But it's good to be present.

I'll probably just submit the texts and let them insert their on their own since they've got the file unless they will send me the file to do it and I'll just figure it out since I'm not really an editor.

Yes, no worries. Since the weekend is done, I've got some spare time to do it and might just contact them through their TG.

Can someone else check the sinbad.io page, something is loading badly for me, as if the .css is messed up

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/09/25/PZSi1.png

Probably just a temporary issue because it seems back to normal right now. The site loads just fine both on Chrome and Firefox on my end. I think Cloudflare has been acting up again in the last couple of days. I make that conclusion based on how Bitcointalk's captcha feature has been working the last 3-4 days. It takes longer than usual to solve all those puzzles they make you go through, and I keep failing them, which is something I didn't do before.

Yes I can confirm this its loading fast and everything looks good on sinbad.io and about Bitcointalk's captcha feature I thought I'm the only one it took me 5 to 10 minutes to pass all these captchas I have to disable captcha in my account after I log in something I am not comfortable using hopefully there will be lesser issues like this.

I know that there is an option in the account settings to bypass the captcha feature but I never had any need to turn it off. I started considering doing it myself because I was getting frustrated having to pass multiple puzzles during every login. However, I just logged in a minute ago, and there was not a single captcha this time. Maybe it's finally over. Is it better on your end today?

Usually, I access the forum without a captcha, it's tiring for me considering that I come to it several times a day. However, two days ago, my first access required a captcha. Similar thing with the Sinbad mixer, where I still had to check and verify the Cloudflare captcha.
After that, today and yesterday everything is as before.

You can adjust the minutes you want to stay logged in for. For instance, set it at 1440 or something to cover an entire day of being logged in.

Sinbad's website never asked me to complete any puzzles even during the time when Cloudflare was bugging Bitcointalk. I was always asked to place a tick in the box confirming I am human and nothing more.

It seems that the clearnet site sinbad.io has been under persistent DDoS attacks for a long time. He is currently offline.
TOR link http://[directing people to darknet sites is not allowed].onion/ is still available and the service works without problems. If someone else can confirm for the onion link, because my TOR browser has some difficulties with the connection to Tor

I can confirm that access to both clearnet and onion works fine from my side. Do you find difficulties with cloudflare's captcha on the clearnet? I went straight through.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/05/PWZP3.jpeg https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/05/PWHx8.jpeg

To announce here also the winners for SINBAD.IO Mixer September Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465305.160)

Also, SINBAD.IO Mixer October Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5469314.0) started.
12th October is the deadline for prediction 1, and the 24th for the second prediction.

Thank you examplens
I will try luck for this October price prediction as well maybe who know what the outcome would be, i might be the lucky winner again.
I will make an entry soon. However, i want to use this medium to thank Official Sinbad.io as i acknowledged that i have received my reward days back but was so busy i couldn't write here to give my feedback.

Thank you Sinbad.io

I follow what users write in the Sinbad.io Telegram group https://t.me/Sinbadio_English  I see a lot of misunderstanding of the mixer service, even some basics of Bitcoin and blockchain, maybe a little education would be helpful. For example, I saw a user who made a mistake and sent the minimum amount for mixing of 0.001, but in two transactions, from two different addresses.
There are some other very unusual questions and opinions.

I would suggest the Sinbad.io moderator, instead of just bumping this thread, write a post here and answer the user problem they are facing. I believe that it will be of help to someone as prevention.

I completely agree.
The official website has a FAQ section. There could be more information there regarding common concerns and questions that new users have. Regarding the case with the minimum transaction amounts. That's an example of a user mistake. The FAQ explains that any sums sent below the minimum amount are considered donations to Sinbad. Therefore, making multiple small transactions won't work.

The site also has a News section which could be updated occasionally with more information. If there isn't anything worth reporting on Sinbad and the service, then talk about something newsworthy from the niches like privacy, mixing in general, regulations, best practices, etc.

Some users are also to blame. The telegram group has all the information in the pinned post, which has been there since October last year, but they don't even bother to read. Even when mixing, there is a massage stating that minimum is 0.001 BTC and that the deposit address should only be used once. I guess that person did even bother reading the information.

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Entered my address and clicked on mix coins, and then I see a blurred screen and these 3 boxes that seem to be spinning around forever. Is this normal behavior with Sinbad mixer?

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/18/R7Tg2.png

Everything is normal from my side, I don't notice any dysfunction. After 2-3 seconds, the page with the next step was loaded, I would say that something is up to you.
Clearing the cache in the browser might help.

True. All the information is there, unfortunately people learn best from their own mistakes (which is not a bad thing, though can be painful).
They usually come to the telegram support only after they made a mistake of sending less than minimum or sending to the phishing site or sending the result of mixing straight to centralized exchange.

Also not all of the mistakes are made because of lack of understanding of how the mixer works. Sometimes it's lack of understanding of how the blockchain or the cryptowallet or the exchange works. For instance, people sometimes send less than minimum because they don't realize that the wallet/exchange they use deducts the network fee from the specified amount. Therefore they send the minimum amount, but the mixer receives less and it confuses them. Such problems are out of our reach. Or do you disagree?

I think the only way to help users make less mistakes is better visual aids on the website, possibly bigger font for minimum amount. Brighter claimer to download and verify the letter of guarantee.

You could create an alert, when the person clicks on "Mix Coins", a popup will appear alerting you to the minimum sending.

One question: if the user sends all transactions of 0.0005, will it count or not?

A notification with a warning in a larger font or a popup if possible are good ideas.
I remember on other platforms there is a notification that if you send below the minimum amount it will be considered a donation.

This is an appreciation post of having the Sinbad brand on the forum for technically 50 plus weeks and still going strong...

and not forgetting the efforts put into it both internally & external(the BCT forum) to make it the biggest brand at the moment when it comes to mixers, cheers to your guys.

Long live Sinbad.io

Already 50 weeks done, into this signature campaign, Sinbad Mixer's strong campaign is truly commendable. Sinbad.io is the strongest mixing brand on this forum, and has been around for the longest time. And we all have a lot of fun working with this signature campaign, and it's been a long year on the Bitcoin Forum and a loyal mixing brand. Long live this signature campaign and Sinbad mixer will do more great in the days to come.
Congratulations to everyone worked with Sinbad.io.
Cheers...

Finally the 50 week sinbad mixer campaign has been reached. I believe this is the beginning of more massive development and use of Sinbad mixers and becoming a big brand that is able to become a benchmark for mixer platforms. I am very happy to be part of this brand.

Thank you and long live Sinbad.

50 weeks of the promotional campaign is a really big deal, but the 13th of October was the anniversary of Sinbad being present here on the forum. At least this thread was open then. We somehow missed that date  :-[

It's exactly the same with Sinbad, however, that information can be found in the FAQ section, not the main page. And we all know how much people like to read about a service before using it... they don't.
The main page has information about the minimum mixing amount being 0.001 BTC. Perhaps the same warning could also be added there. Any deposits less than this amount will be considered donations to Sinbad that can't be used to initiate a mixing round.

When the Sinbad mixer first appeared on the Bitcointalk forum, I immediately liked the logo of this service.  

The fact is that since childhood I have been very fond of films and books about pirate romance.  As a child, I loved playing sea robbers.  I loved reading Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson, The Odyssey of Captain Blood by Raphael Sabbatini, and The Adventures of Sinbad the Sailor!  

This was my first impression of the Sinbad mixer.  I immediately wanted to join this mixer's signature company...

My desire only intensified when I found out that Sinbad is the best mixer that provides quality services in the field of increasing anonymity and confidentiality when working on the Bitcoin network.  

And it so happened that I soon became a member of the signature company of this project on the Bitcointalk forum!  And now we are celebrating the  50 weeks  of the promotional campaign Sinbad!

Thank you, Sinbad!

Having recently gotten involved with the Sinbad Signature campaign, I can see that the brand recognition of this service is pretty high.

I think the design contest was a brilliant idea, and the flag avatar is a very aesthetic touch, immediately inspiring feelings of liberty and adventure in the user, very apt emotions to invoke when advertising for a mixing service;

so well done and wishing you continued success in protecting individual privacy 🦜

What do you mean by "will it count"? It will be mixed if at that point of time this amount will be greater or equal to the minimum required amount

All credit goes to Royse777, for most effective campaign management I could hope for

I'm sorry, I didn't ask the question well.
What I wanted to ask is whether the user can send two transactions with a value lower than the minimum, which in total is higher. In this case, the mixing is done in the same way.

I think we all understood you well. One transaction, where the minimum is 0.001btc is correct. Everything else is considered a donation to the mixer.
This is very clearly emphasized in the mixing process, so there really shouldn't be any confusion


https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/23/TTbkJ.png

For example, in case you have an amount of 0.0009BTC in two different wallets, the best(only) option is to first consolidate and combine them into one wallet and after that send as much as you want to the mixer.

I have been following the sinbad avatar campaign for 3 weeks. Today I just understood that in some cases, hiding bitcoin transactions may be necessary to protect our privacy from the public or for certain purposes. I have never had experience using a mixer, and if I may ask. How much does it cost for one mix? Service fees and network fees. Maybe I want to try it

Sorry, maybe my question is very basic, but I have no experience with mixers and I don't have much bitcoin so I thought I'd find out the actual costs involved. I hope those who answer have experience using a Sinbad mixer

Actually, you can calculate the fee of mixing your BTC in sinbad on the website. You can choose the amount you want to pay for the mining fee from 0.5 % - 2.5 %. This will determine the priority of your transaction (meaning how fast your transaction will be processed) + sinbad charges a 0.0002 BTC service fee.

You can see a sample calculation by clicking on the calculator on their website.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/24/TzqJd.jpeg

Can you provide an overview of real transactions? For example, I want to mix 0.002 btc, what is the total cost I have to pay for network fees and simbad service fees? Do network costs also depend on network density?

From me also a small congratulation for 50 successful weeks running the Sinbad Signature campaign. I'm with the campagin for a while now and it's running smooth as always.

You guys and Royse make a good team I must say!

Hopefully the next time we congratulate will be for a full 100.

Cheers to you !

I will suggest you do your own research (as for any service). Nothing can sufficiently explain a service to you like personal experience.
In the end, you are part of a promotional campaign. It is to be expected that you test the service you are advertising, at least once.


The calculator on the site, which lucifur also mentioned, is quite adequate and will give you a precise calculation of the cost of the entire transaction. You can use it even without finishing the whole mixing process.
The only thing that affects the current state of the network is the transaction fee you will pay when depositing on Sinbad.io

So, for your example, if you send 0.002 BTC, using a 1% service fee, the math looks like this
0.002 - 0.00002 ^{1% mixing fee} - 0.0002 ^{service fee per each address} = 0.00178 BTC

note: Sinbad, not simbad  ;)

I believe they should add that part of donations on the mixing page. It only appears in the FAQ section

Correct me if I am wrong, if I have UTXOs of 0.0009 BTC in and 0.0005 BTC in an address and then decided to mix them. This should be fine, the output will be more than the minimum with some change if I am to spend exactly 0.001 BTC in the mixer's deposit address. There's no need to first consolidate.

Consolidating beforehand is not necessary but if the UTXOs are in different wallets they will need to move them to the same wallet first so they can deposit in a single transaction. Depositing them in separate transactions would probably not be valid because then people could just spam many small deposits that add up to 0.001 BTC and burden them with high fees.

Friendly bump with Sinbad activity
SINBAD.IO Mixer October Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5469314.0) is over, we are waiting for Royse777 to announce the winners.  8)

The tradition continues, the new November SINBAD.IO Mixer Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472424.0) is open

Does anyone know who is making this ANN for Sinbad?
Each month designers make different graphics and they are always interesting and look very cool.
I might be needing help from good designers soon for one of my future projects ;)

I agree with you, very interesting design for every new contest.
As far as I know, Royse777 has a designer(s) on his team. Given that he manages all Sinbad campaigns, I assume that there is a high probability that someone from that team is in charge of this design as well. Now it is mentioned, probably he will give an answer  ;D

I also noticed that for every new month, there is a new design it is a unique design, well conceptualized, and custom-made made there are a lot of designs on Canva Pro that you can edit to create a banner but I have never seen designs like this, we have at least three designers here in our forum and they may be one of the designers or he has one whom he hires from freelance sites.

Thanks mate, I've missed the last month and will join this month's prediction shortly.

Yeah, good catch guys about the design and it's unique every time that we move on to the next month of prediction challenge. The blend of color that the designer uses is catchy.

I have one suggestion for improving the service, maybe the sinbad.io devs could think about it. During the mixing process, in case of closing browser pages, it is necessary to save the generated link for that transaction. There can be various reasons why someone did not save the link, and in that case, cannot monitor the state of the process.

The solution could be to add a mixing ID link to the letter of guarantee. One "how to" question would be avoided and users would have the necessary information by simply downloading the letter of guarantee.
I believe that this does not require significant changes, and could be useful.

The last few times I accessed the site, I felt some delay in the connection between Cloudflare and entering the site.
This is done on a fast internet connection, via clearnet, and on Chrome.

I leave this note, perhaps there may be some configuration that allows this connection to be made faster.

I think it was the global Cloudflare issues that we've got even as the forum did experience it. But upon accessing as of typing this, I have no problems with delays and the website is quick to load. To those who haven't seen the price prediction challenge of Sinbad for this month, please check it out.
Thread: November SINBAD.IO Mixer Bitcoin Price Prediction Challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472424.0)

I think that the somewhat slower passage through Cloudflare is the reason for the higher level of security from this service. I use the free plan on several of my sites, and I have never had any longer loading times due to Cloudflare. Of course, they are not interested in any DDoS attack.
I've noticed that it's the same thing on almost all mixers that use the CF service.

The clearnet has always had this, let's call it natural delay, on my end as well. I access the site with a VPN, and the first thing I see is the Cloudflare captcha, verifying that I am human. After confirmation, there is some loading in the background for a few seconds and then the site pops up. I am pretty sure it's Cloudflare causing this delay between finishing the captcha and the site opening in the browser. 

We transferred the coins to their wallet, due to the fact that the commission increased sharply - the coins took 2 days instead of 24 hours. Wrote a letter, attached a letter of guarantee - 3 days of silence without a response! We write in telegram - at first they read it - then they stopped reading it altogether!

READ  THE LETTERS !!!!
Give our miney !!!

You are aware that a wave of super high fees is occurring on the Bitcoin network, right?
At this moment, it is highly complicated to guarantee deadlines for bitcoin transactions. You can define a rate now (even if it is high) that is viable for the network, and minutes later it is no longer viable.
We have to be patient, and wait for this moment to pass a little.

First question, is the transaction where you send Bitcoin to Sinbad.io confirmed?

The Sinbad team has announced their absence these days, so there may be a delay in the response. Here is the confirmation of their campaign manager on the forum

High fees, as well as planned leave, caused certain delays in solving issues. A bit of patience is required for everything.

As the user examplens already asked, is your have your tx received at least 3 confirmation?

On the transaction page you are supposed to see a section like below

https://i.ibb.co/g4dgRr8/Screenshot-1.png

Unless it is more than 0 where it says "0 confirmation of 3", you are likely to wait.

We sent them an email asking them to check and complete the transaction, since the money was received in their wallet. But just now, after 5! days - I received a message that such mail does not exist!
support@sinbad.io

Three or four people have already asked you simple questions about the situation, and you haven't been able to answer with a simple "yes" or "no".
If your attitude is the same when trying to contact support, it will be difficult to help.