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I watched a youtube video, a guy is showing how live roulette in online casinos scam us. after watching some part of video, i check the comment, and on 4th comment i found this guy telling how they scam us.


"The practice when the roulette balls are made of piezoeletric ceramiC.The material used is Barium Titanate BaTiO3 on the surface, and Barium sulfate BaSO4 on the inside insulation.
The ball caries polarized surface charges when hit by anultrasonic sound wave. This is sent from the inter- digital transducers placed in the pockets of each number.
They send a wave to the ball that polarizes the surface with a negative charge.
The spoon/ pocket  of the number olso negative; thereforethe ball jumps out trough electrostatic repulsion.
Each number pocket is controlled by a transistor called IGBT.
This transistor turn on the switch so that the pocket is negatively charged.
The control room computer leaves the pockets that it wants the ball to go in neutral or of.
This is akk maneged by the sophisticated software and computers.
So that why you can see situation when the ball geteither pushed out violentely od sucked into the exact to a number.
I am positive you know that the ball stick to a number like a dart and also ball being pushed out from the pocket after almost completestop.
So this would be yes this technique could be possibly used to manipulate the outcome.
This is happening on you live dealer wheels."

in comment of this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0rNhLySb0k

do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.

Scamming through roulette is definitely possible. However, can I ask you to gamble a same size bet on all 36 numbers except 0 and see if the casino manages to bring up number 0 only in the very same game? If they do, can you please repeat it and see if they do it again in the next game too? I'm not favoring any casinos here and I know that such practices do take place in roulette, however not all of them would do it.  As well, it's not the casino specifically but the game provider that does this and if that's true, we should never play games from such game providers because they'll only try to loot your money by making you lose every single bet. Even in the game of cards (be it blackjack, poker, andar bahar, etc.) I have witnessed that most of the times, dealer wins. So it's possible that they have something behind the scenes that we don't know about.

Roulette has been my best casino game and it is very easy to play. What I do think about is that we are many that are selecting numbers to win or lose and we can not select the same number or pick the same number range, people will select different numbers and numbers in range. If I play like 3 times or more and I am losing, I may leave and not using the online casino roulette again and the casino itself. I have played roulettes on reputable casinos and I think the win and loss are not bad. But that YouTube video truly showed how Roulette can be manipulated if truly the roulette ball or pill can be controlled by a remote.

I don't play those games that depend on luck like roulettes, but from what I see the roulette games in crypto casinos are provably fair or am I wrong? being that the roulette games of crypto casinos are proven fair so I believe that the providers of roulette games are audited by third parties or even online casinos can audit the roulette game before adding it to their casino with that we can be sure that they are demonstrably fair. now talking about roulette in live casinos I also think that in live casinos all equipment is audited by the government entity that grants licenses to the casino

I'm not a citizen of the USA or Europe, but looking at how the laws and rules are much more put into practice as here in Africa, I think it's hard to imagine that the roulette machines in physical casinos that have a license are machines that have been tampered with for a long time. long without the government sector that grants the license knowing about it, this guy accuses that the machines are tampered with, but then why doesn't he report it to the police and so that they arrest the person responsible for doing this? and in the video they do not mention which casino has done this, so it is difficult for people to be able to take precautions and report these casinos that do this

I wonder where he got this information from. quite curious about it and would have loved to read more into it if there is more.

in the video, it does look like it is possible. As for whether this is already being used by popular game providers? maybe maybe not, all really we can do is speculate, of course, unless there is solid evidence that popular game providers that you mentioned are using the technology shown in the video,

In evolution-games

There some roulette called "Auto-roulette", It's live game, however, the roulette spins them self without the dealer. So, the question how they can pull up the ball without being lifted from a person?

Yes, the ball could be a magnet and they use magnet to pull & spin the ball. It's possible they can manipulated the outcome? yes based on how this game can be running live without dealer.

It is not just roulette, any game can be manipulated as long as its online based, but I believe this is where trust and reputation comes in, gamblers have to trust that the casino they are playing on will not engage in such dubious activities, and also, the casino, for the sake of their reputation, should not engage themselves on such act.

Anything is possible, as far as I know, I've actually read a topic like this before, but can't really remember if it was on this forum or  another forum, but all things being good, it's a bad practice to do such, and for some casinos, this is not even worth their reputation if they ever engage in such act.

It is possible, there has been several instances on how shady and small casinos have manipulated their roulette in the past, to increase the chances of the house to win more often. Nowadays with the advance of electronics and science of materials, it has become easier for those tables to be manipulated without anyone ever noticing, not even the casino workers, since they could leak information to the public.

That is why proper inspection and regulation is important, in the case of brick-and-mortar casinos. In the case of online casinos, people should go with those that support provably fair games and learn how to verify them.

They don't have to touch the ball at all. The ball is magnetized and the electro magnets in the wheel get turned on and off, making it avoid certain spots. For instance, if someone places a very large bet on a certain number, only that number will get magnetized in the opposite way to the ball, so it will go into any other slot, just not the one with the bet.

They've been doing it for at least a 100 years. In very old casinos the tables had a button that turned a big magnet on to make the ball jump up. The dealer controlled the button and it allowed him to make the ball spin a bit more if it was already falling into a slot where the bet was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TavAtAr9gIU
Here's a rigged table from 1920 where they use coils to operate a pin that pushed a ball into a given side of the wheel. It wouldn't allow you to control the colors but was used to make the ball avoid the numbers where the biggest bets were.

I'm already aware that roulette games are programmed before getting to see this.

It's a business, you wouldn't want everyone to win. How do they then make money from it since the sole aim of business Is to make a profit.

If 10 persons play a roulette spin game, 7 will lose while 3 succeed.

That is a reputable casino, probably some casinos can use that to cheat, but a reputable casino can not try that because they have house edge already, meaning that no matter how most players play, the casino will make more money from them. If making money is what would happen to casinos as they have more users, then why going for cheating? I do not think any reputable casino would go for this.

Since the time I have been playing roulette, I think the game is probably fair too.

This makes sense because the casinos don't want to see many people who manage to win the game and earn a lot of money. Casinos will do things we may never know and can only guess.

So in the roulette round game, perhaps it has been programmed so that not many people win. But I don't know if it's in a trusted casino, will they do it or won't they do something? But I don't think they would do anything to prevent people from winning at roulette.

I guess my opinion was right.

That's why avoided roulette, only play with bonus amount like Weekly from "Stake". I more prefer a card game rather than rouelete even if the deck was right, If the deck not on our side the out come are against us.

People should avoided roulete.

This is the problem where the casinos are more eager to win over the gamblers, a high probability to manipulate the system in favor to the house. I don’t play roulette that much as well but being cheated in live game is quiet shocking, what more can do when you play their offline games? This is not a good image for any casinos. Card games are indeed more ok and lesser chance of getting cheated.

So obviously all of these wins from roulette are just planted in the entire history that it exists and even if they weigh those balls it's still would have results they wanted? My life has all been a lie then. I'm not that of a roulette fan but very certain that I want to avoid this game in the future or never play at all.

Many will still ask for a proof and they will not believe on this easily, well this is how gambling works and even the top site have their own hidden strategy to get more wins over the gamblers. If you want to fee that you are safe from any cheating then play on physical casinos with the card games. Playing with slots are also possible to get cheated, just try to have fun and try to unseen this.

Everyone has their own choice anyway, so if you feel you are being cheated, then don't play.
Also, better play on top and reputable sites as they won't ruin their image by cheating allegations.
Because once a site has been proven to be cheating their players, that would be their reason to get out of this game.
Just follow your instincts if you can't see the proof. Sometimes your gut feel will save you from being screwed.

No one knows but since this one had been shown on youtube then we could really say that it could really be applied and something that could really be done but everything would really be just remain a guess
considering that we cant really point out a solid evidence that they are really doing these things in behind. I cant just believed on what i have seen on the video where they could really possibly
forced up the ball on where it would really be heading on.I cant just believe that this one would really be ending up on getting rigged up on this way.For sure casinos
are already aware for those who had been using this stuff although the video is already 2 years old.

And I agree but online or offline roulette has huge followers its a very old game where it is offline and online casinos' main attraction, and not many people know how manipulation is going, they still believe that if you're lucky you're going to win when actually when manipulators happen to pick your spin as the next winner.
Some players already know about the manipulation but they claim they are here for fun, so they prefer to ignore

Rigged or being that manipulated is something that would really be that different in terms of application or integration if we do speak on online or offline roulettes which we have seen on what are the things that could

be done offline.Now, we dont have the idea on what are the possible things that could be rigged up on online roulettes on how results could be altered up into their advantage.Its true that people would really be
just simply sticking out into those casinos which does have that good reputation and popularity on which they would really be instilling into their minds that they've been dealing up on a place which is something fair.

Now that we are aware on how its been done then people would be keen on observing it out specially on offline or physical casinos.

This is not something new I watched  Videos on Youtube three or four years ago on how offline and online casinos are manipulating the results of roulettes the manipulation is well explained, which is why I seldom play roulette, it keeps playing in my mind that there's manipulation going on on every spin, sometimes it's better not to know secrets of casinos because when you start to spin or roll you have doubts in your mind running.
And that takes away the fun of course at the back of your mind you want to be the lucky guy and win the spin but it should be coming from luck and not from manipulation.

I thought as much though and I also had to look at my own experience with roulette game I play. It seems there is correlation between what OP has explained and my experience.

I played this game onboard a roulette live game casino and I enjoyed the game and suddenly after some big wins, I started observing some certain changes on the roulette game I play and I noticed this precisely, after I won big, while watching the them count and pack up and after a little while after I had chat on their chat box, their staff came and started again and I placed a big bet this time before they package up which they did not spin the roulette but after the staff came out and we continued, I lost all my heavy bet for that particular set. Ever since then I noticed it I stopped playing at that casino and I also stopped playing roulette game.

Such thing is possible, remember movies wherein cheating is in form of a switch in roulettes? Quite silly but it is wlso possible. But what can we do? Move to other platforms or change the game you are playing or simply take a pause. Nit because a platform scams or fools you in roulette, it would already mean that other platforms as well would do so; roulette have not exist for years in this industry for nothing. There are people who enjoys playing it and that is I think an enough reason to not generalize. It is not on the game but on the platforms you are playing at. We just cannot order people to avoid a game just because of such possibility.

Cheating the outcome of roulette is very possible.  We can see on the video how the ball moves irregularly.  The shaking and going back of the ball while the roulette is spinning cannot be defined scientifically even with the low of motion and the inertia.  It is clear on that video that the machine is tempered.  Just like how the roulette ball move in this part of the video (https://youtu.be/f0rNhLySb0k?t=164).  There is no way the ball can move like that even with all the small humps bumps that is within that machine.


@OP had shown the explanation how the game is rigged and there are also circulating documents [1] on the internet how roulette is being rigged. We should ne very observant to check whether this kind of cheating is being made by the roulette game provider. If there is an abnormal trajectory of the movement of a ball in a roulette, it is obvious that the machine is tampered to rig the result of the game.

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[1] https://www.casinonewsdaily.com/roulette-guide/rig-roulette-wheel/

He is probably an ex-employee who noticed irregularities and took a dive into how it might be possible. Or, he was simply in on it or told about it and is now releasing the information for the sake of his conscience.


Of course it would be. Casinos are businesses with extremely low morals and ethics. Their business concept itself is exploiting human nature out of its greed and desire to gain more than what they have easily. It would be no surprise at all (in fact it should be expected) that casinos are using dirty tactics like this that people would otherwise would not know unless someone once involved/involved spoke up about it.

There is a possibility that Roulette deceives players, but we cannot blindly believe the reviews given by other people, especially if it's just a narrative without any evidence.
In fact, not only in the game of Roulette but also with other games there is also the possibility of manipulation, but as long as we don't know about it and play to get pleasure from this kind of narrative, there's nothing to worry about.
Whether the game is manipulated or not, as long as we have luck, we can get victory, so playing wisely and responsibly is the right choice.
After all, in gambling, the house is a real winner, so it's impossible for the house to let players win the game so easily.

This discussion has been made several times but what we actually never see in proof.  :(

I mean, when you play you always have some kind of suspicion because you never know what exactly is happening on the other side of your screen. The possibilities to cheat are endless unfortunately.

People speak about sound waves, magnets, even something like directing the ball with blows of air.
In the past I have seen some strange videos on youtube where for example the ball moved seconds after it stood still, that's very unlikely to happen.

I think the bid odds providers don't have a reason to cheat, they make enough money on the house edge, just like every casino worldwide.

What I don't know is what smaller casinos do to reach their profit targets. Behind closed doors I bet there are plenty of elaborate schemes we wouldn't even think of.

Although it's true that any game can be rigged as long as that's doable, but nothing said by the guy or written in this thread is backed with any proof or data proving any actual point, this could just be a false rumor and there might be nothing like that. There can be a lot of ways for a casino to cheat their gamblers and even if they don't, people can come up with ideas themselves just like this one.

I think we shouldn't reach any conclusions from our side without getting to see or have any proof against any gambling platform that has allegedly done this with their players, and then we should decide if we want to play a game again or not.

I often see my friend playing roulette and he always tells me that this game is probably fairer than other casino games, so he never tries other casino games just sits down playing roulette and spends his time and money, but I always pay attention to him even he doesn't never won in that game, I can only say to myself and smile "the dealer will always win in any gambling game that uses machines or tools because it's easy to cheat"

I've never had a problem with playing roulette even though I'm not a fan of this game as OP said let alone offline roulette even live roulette can still be cheated and played, but I'm not a hypocrite with that even all other casino games are the same, but it depends on how we can use strategy to play and control yourself in playing, sometimes even though we feel cheated by the system at least we can control ourselves when we lose we should stop playing so we don't lose a lot of money, the usual thing to do is don't be greedy to continue playing an already strange game without winning.  ;)

You think the roulette ball can not be controlled in a way the ball can be manipulated to be on certain number? With what I see, I think it is possible. But like what we have said about this, casinos and all other gambling sites have house edge, this will not make a good casino to follow this fake way because they know that they will always make money from their users. But if anyone tells me that this is not possible, I do not believe.

I think this is a crock of sh1t.... the casino do not have to cheat, because the house edge gives them their profit. So the game dynamic already generate their profit.

The moment when someone throw a bunch of complex technical jargon around, like digital transducers etc... then you know they are trying to pull the wool over your face... and this comment sounds like that.  ::)

Nice thread. I'm not aware of this kind of trick because I only saw this in a movie about casino cheating and not an actual demonstration of how it works. Looking at the video makes this trick smooth and not noticeable when apply on live roulette. I rarely play roulette so this trick doesn't concern me at all. But asking if popular providers might do this is questionable because they don't have any reason to cheat on a game in that they have an advantage. They already have a huge profit from their customers that trust them. It's not worth trading those reputations over a silly cheat just to beat badly all the players that are destined to lose in the end.

Maybe this is happening with mediocre game providers and not with the popular ones. Maybe I'm wrong with this but that is what I'm holding for me to continue playing in these casinos with live games.

It's not just online based games, even sports games can be rigged, and normally the oddsmakers know about it way before you know it, e.g. Oakland As Cubs yesterday, an umpire calling OUT on a player on 3rd (scoring position), then calling OUT on a player for wasting time, then ejecting the coach, and then allowing the Cubs to score tons of runs (lots of questionnable calls).

As gamblers say "you have to be on the right side of the fix" but sports are rigged as well, those who say sports are not rigged have no idea what they're talking about ... and you even have articles like these:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tennis/tennis-lifetime-match-fixing-29178013
https://igamingbusiness.com/social-responsibility/sports-integrity/french-tennis-player-banned-for-match-fixing/

Maybe the MMA is one of the more 'honest' sports out there but even there you could find some integrity issues ....

Ever seen the movie Cash (2010)? Sean Bean says in the movie a powerful thing when taking back a box full of cash from the mother: "When it comes to cash - nobody can be trusted".

Scam in gambling exist and there's nothing to do about it, some have been existing over time while some will still come onboard which is why we also need to research very well about a casino before we can draw a conclusion on any as our preferred choice, once we get used to the routes they take to scam us the lesser gamblers fall their victim but moreover everything will still ended on taking risk in gambling.

    -   Most of the gamblers who play roulette don't think about it anymore, as long as they enjoy themselves. Then they can't even think about it and notice it in my opinion.

Gamblers may already know that even in the casino there is manipulation going on, but they don't care about it anymore because what most gamblers have in mind is that if they bring luck they will win no matter where they bet.

This meaning one thing , that there are no complete trust we must give to each casino because if live gambling can be a scam then what more those online games? that we are playing against the computer?
like what you said Evolution and lightning  in which I use to favorite in live casino playing.

and the best thing to treat these kind of game? is to Enjoy and accept being a loser lol.

Roulette is one of the most easiest games to play on a gambling platform, and it's all about how lucky one can be, the same as slots too, I do believe that some gambling platforms have their ways of cheating gamblers but I honestly never seen something like this before. There is nothing anyone can do to nail a scamming casino because I have never heard about a case in the court involving a gambling casino that was caught cheating.

All you can do is move away from any gambling platform that have too less luck when playing your games, do not stick with one gambling platform, try to use others because some are pure than the other, if you don't try you won't know.

ALL you said is true friend, when I said "any game can be rigged as long as it's online based," i didn't mean it from the angle you are seeing it, I actually said that based on the fact that most of us here today carry out our gambling activities mostly online..

MMA like I understand is still young in the sports industry, so it's understandable why it is still one of the most trusted sports where rigging is still very minimal...

I've not seen this movie but all in all, this says it all, "when it come to cash - nobody can be trusted", really true.

Physical games like live roulette are definitely too sketchy nowadays. I would rather see a digital version with open source and audited security/functionality and fairness (audited by a trustworthy third party, and not just a smart contract security audit, like certik).

But as far as the physics goes, the explanation checks out. I also think simple electromagnetic plates underneath the numbers with alternating polarity as well as magnetic field strength and a magnetic ball could be used to the same effect.

Usually this can be expected of Casinos that do not have real/any gaming licenses. Real licensed casinos would probably not rig the equipment , because if they were exposed, they would lose their gaming license and face heavy penalties.

I also agree with GetPaid, every game can be rigged, and there are fixed/rigged sports and gambling games around. Some of them are so obvious like in the video shared by OP, and there are other videos I have seen. This Marrocan tennis player fixed 135 matches... crazy. That reminded me of the thread from some time ago: An obvious rigging of Sports. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330982.0).

And it seems that in this world everything comes down to that  "when it comes to cash - nobody can be trusted". I guess the only thing we can do is to "gamble with money we can afford to lose", so even if we get scammed it will not hurt much.

To conclude it then, is that they all cheat? Well, it would be luck then if you win on their games, sad that this is already going around but I think this may not stop those who really wants to gamble even if the risk of getting cheated is there. I think card games are way more honest or I'll just stay on sports betting.

I suppose that manipulations are also possible in card games. In fact, if we are talking about very slight differences in physics (ceramics, aleations...) which can decisively vary the output in order to favour the house, anything is possible.

I cannot assess whether the information given in this video is real. I have not the expertise to do that, nor access to the system in order to make the experiment myself. So, although the scam is ideally possible, how probable is it?

Roulette as a system is already built in order to be profitable for the casino, and it is legal. Building and using fake roulettes is definitely illegal and the owner could end in jail if found guilty, so I don't think it is worth the risk. Anyway, it is also true that greed knows no limits sometimes.

Thanks, you can watch from 03:06 here the highlights, this is where the umpires started "siding" with the cubs, no one even mentions this in the comments, but whoever watched the full game can see how the umpires started siding with the Cubs, including weird "Strike" calls against the As and lots of "Balls" for the Cubs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPQ97ZpCKrU

Also see it for yourself, how many "Walks" the umpires gave the Cubs on the 6th to allow them to win:

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/cubs-vs-athletics/2023/04/19/718506/final/wrap/all

https://i.imgur.com/C717p5g.png

You can also look at it from a different angle - so many times in the MLB the game "all of a sudden" gets decided in the 4th/5th/6th inning where one team is scoring many runs due to the umpires or a "bad" pitcher. As if in the first 4 innings they take more and more and more live bets and then - boom, here's your "winner" (or very poor odds for the next move). You can look at it from many angles - bottom line is:

The way "Professional" sports are being played today makes 0 sense, in the NBA the game could go "under" for 3.5 quarters and then in the last 6 minutes they can foul each other and score 70+ points or the opposite, the sports as it is nowadays makes 0 sense.

Again, lots of people are attacking such statements in order to protect the credibility of sports, and being in several NBA games - the event itself is fun, absolutely, especially if you don't bet on it, lots of music and entertainment besides the game itself (timeouts are more fun than the game itself) - but the credibility of what's happening? It just doesn't feel right.

It's like this roulette scam - feels like even in sports the result should be 10 but "suddenly" it is moved to be 31, so the same thing can happen and will happen not only in small leagues but also in the big leagues - in fact, if you really know how to "read" those things - by all means bet on it, make your fortune by siding with these crooks lol.

They won't be making any profit if the player doesn't lose.  The house edge is there to give an advantage to the house to win and it does not earn money for itself especially when the player is winning.  So there is really a major reason for those cheaters to act illegaly so that they can 100% sure that players will lose.


Obviously honest small casinos will go for marketing and advertisement in order to gather more players to play on their platform.  They will implement strategy that will boost the platform exposure but obviously, fraud gambling casinos will cheat in order to get money from unsuspecting players.


There are lots of cases where sports game results are rigged.  It has been happening since when we are yet to be born in this world.  Even the internet can show lots of these cases just like this youtube videos compilation of 10 rigged moments in sports. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt7XoX7izKI)

This is the sad reality in gambling that the team or the company will always win and we as gamblers are being fooled many times , so if you are not willing to lose and be taken your money then dont gamble at all.
while it is easy , that is also being use for abused like this.

Never gamble if you don't want to lose is the best advice. But the problem is that many people play gambling at first out of curiosity and after playing gambling several times, they become addicted and become more aggressive in gambling. They also deposit larger amounts of money than before and are tempted to keep playing so they can win.

And we also don't know when we can get lucky. But we can have accounts on many gambling platforms and play gambling on each account regularly because our luck will come at one of these casinos.

Shifting to other gambling sight can't increase your chance of winning, because most probably they are being run with the same purpose, which is to make money for the casinos. Well, this might be a big exploitations but who will believe on this? Is this enough to stop gamblers from playing on such game? Seriously I don't think this one will count, gamblers will still paly that game for some reason, its hard to accept the truth for most of the addicted gamblers.

Let's just accept the fact that the goal of casinos is to make money and keep their business running and yes, despite these manipulation and cheating issues, gamblers will still play and gamble. Being addicted to gambling is a personal choice though it is the main problem of many gamblers nowadays. Roulette is also addictive so no wonder why there are still lots of roulette players despite the doubts and controversies.

Some casinos definitely cheat in creative ways in order to make sure that their business stays in profit overall, but they are part of the minority these days thanks to all the licensing authorities, anti-cheat protocols etc.

This kind of stuff just adds an extra layer of risk on top of all the risks involved with gambling.

These issues are usually prevalent in new and small casinos for obvious reasons. This is why research is crucial before investing in any casino(Online and Offline).

Correct, also it is worth mentioning that those casinos which are small or new (founded with not much capital) are more likely to use unrefined cheating techniques than those described by OP (from the youtube comments), and so easier to spot by gamblers.

We can talk about high technology materials and computer guided roulettes, but effectively and stealthy using those things can be very expensive and risky (for obvious reasons). Big casinos which could easily cheat do not do that because it is not worth it to burn their reputation and open themselves to lawsuits, they are already profitable. Small shady casinos may try to use some hidden magnets instead all of that.  :P

And sadly some casinos cheat players by implementing modified higher house edge games and others even rigged machines or cheat players with a fast hand host just like this video[1].  In a normal gameplay, casino had already the edge but some shady casinos even pump that edge higher by doing illegal stuff to assure that their player will lost 100%



True that, if we are not lucky in one gambling platform, we can check our luck on another platform.  Since gambling games have random result, it is logical to try our luck in another platform.

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[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PGasgpAJ1o

An Average Joe can't find out if some specific games are rigged. Highly experienced players who do some research can find out which one is rigged. I would appreciate it if someone could find them with proof and expose them. If such a thing is possible, as shown in the video, here is something to worry about. Every game is not rigged. The Platform behind it is doing such a thing.

The Youtube Channel RouletteMan shared the video. So, they must be experienced, and if they are aware of such things, Why don't they expose such platforms? Or they are making money from them too? If you know which one is rigged, suggest which one is not. So we can play on a fair platform.

I am worried now. Roulette is one of the most played games. It's been around since the 18th century. I don't know if there were some kind of cheating back then. I don't play Roulette that much. But, This game has a huge fanbase.

You need to do your own research instead of relying on others. Some of these youtubers do expose scams while some others work with scam sites in order to lure in naive gamblers to those platforms.

Chill. These cheating strategies are used rarely these days in less popular casinos which is why most roulette tables are legit.

True, friends, some people do it for work and get some money from the casino he is promoting and some others expose scam casinos to remind gamblers not to become victims and can also take advantage of the scam casino's reputation to attract gamblers to have more trust in the casino he has to offer.

If we think and do all the research to find fraudulent strategies carried out by casinos, there will be many acts of manipulation and fraud carried out by most unpopular casinos.

It is unlikely there was too much cheating on the early days of the roulette as the proposed method on the OP is very complex and could only be achieved with the use of modern technology, and even then I doubt there are many casinos which are doing something like this, because if they were discovered then no one will ever play there.

Cheating on the old days most likely was done in gambling games like blackjack or baccarat, as sleights of hand which are completely imperceptible to the eye have existed for a very long time.

It is better we use a good casino. You said the cheating can be achieved with the use of modern technology? A remote can be used to control TV channels and TV itself, how much are the remotes sold? Not costly at all but cheap to afford. We are in a modern world too, not old era.

But as I was watching the YouTube video, it is like the ball moved abnormally which can make me suspect cheating.

Even it is possible that cheating can occur on real life roulette table. Only sport that I know that cheating may not occur, and that is when you go for big leagues that can not be fixed and manipulated. But I still prefer casinos as they have far bigger odds.

Sounds like bad publicity. I do remember a group of people who were able to cheat on the casinos on the roulette. They made stats on where the ball fell and detected roulettes that had a slight tendency to make the ball fall on certain areas and they bet on these. They eventually got caught, but not before they got a very good retunr on their idea. I guess this is the opposite digital case.

unless there is a trusted third part that would made some evaluation about roulette and relative ball used yes... it could be potentially possible any kind of manipulation.
But in a certain way, I think it's not the main intention of casino, just because...this is a game with an house edge and casino will end in a profit if people continue to play...
moreover potentially any casino games could be rigged, that's why I say each play carefully only for fun and with an amount that people could afford to loss!

Do you really think that the licensing authorities check every casino registered with them to see if they are cheating their players or not internally? There is no chance for that, they are probably too busy with other stuff and don't really investigate a casino internally unless there are so many complaints received, I'm not even sure if they give any attention to user complaints or not.

If a casino is cheating their players with techniques such as the one described by OP, it's only the players that can make a change for it if they come to know about it, they can boycott the casino and spread the word around so that everyone else does that too.

Maybe we won't have a better chance by switching to another gambling platform, but at least we can get a different experience and taste that we might not have found in a casino before. It also helps us to refresh our minds because we have experienced the experience of losing in casinos before. But we will never know what is in the mind of each gambler. Like me, sometimes I move to another casino to see the promotions in other casinos and maybe deposit some money and play some gambling in that casino. The results may remain the same because, in gambling games, it depends on our luck with us.

If the casino cheats on the player, maybe the player should find another casino that won't cheat him. And I think the player's feeling of whether the game is cheating him or not can feel it so that the player can know what to do. An experienced gambler would know because he could feel it. But the real concern is with beginners, who are inexperienced in finding honest casinos.

You do have a point here. Licensing authorities won't be able to check everything properly, but they still check thoroughly these days which is better than the authorities in the past who hardly checked anything.

Also, the scammy roulette tables are few and far in between since most casinos avoid taking such crazy risks for quick profits.

And checking is something that would really be that in surprise and not something that would be announced earlier because it would be pointless because on the time that these shady casinos or to those who do
loved to rigged out their games would be able to hide those shady stuffs which they've been using on rigging up the game which means that if the authorities would be making out some inspection then they wouldnt find anything and would considered for the platform or company to be fair and safe and when theyre gone then adding it up again and starting on ripping off their users.
Also other possible thing is that they might be easily to bribe officials on skipping and just like nothing happened.

What's the connection of that with a TV? And how can a casino use a TV to cheat its players? They require computer systems and programs, etc. And it's not even proven correct but it's just a concept explained by someone without any authentic proof or anything. I personally have never heard of anything like that, and I don't think it could have been hidden for so long if it was true.

Cheating in sports can't be done by the casino, though they can play with the odds irregularly, customers will surely notice that, and if a sportsbook is once caught cheating, no one will ever place any bets with them again.

There are somethings we need to pay a very careful attention to while gambling, user's experience which us very important because when they don't get their desired need meant, they will not return again, when a casino or slot game tend to have tendencies for scam or gamblers begin to suspect some unusual activities from what they offer, they take a leave because they get scammed, thesame way gamblers scam them they also scam gamblers if they got hacked or loose control of their security against scam.

This video is interesting but they don't tell where come from those footages. I'm sorry but if they've found that a live casino provider is cheating players they have to clearly say who is it. They can't just suggest things. I wouldn't be surprised if a small land-based casino was rigging its games despite the house edge giving them a guaranteed income actually, but I highly doubt a big casino provider could do it, because it would be a suicide. Millions of players are gambling at those casinos around the world and can record their games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444607). And in addition of instantly killing their business and having to close their doors they would have to face lawsuits from the online casinos they are working with, along with the final customers.

^But still safe for me to use a licensed gambling casino.
There is possible that with the advancement of technology and the internet, licensing authorities are now able to monitor online casinos more closely, which has helped to improve the overall safety and security of the industry. I watched the video and it seems that is true I don't have an idea what casino it is, so possible someone casino risking their licensure because of this scamming activity.

They do check the platform if it is in compliance with their standard.  I also believe game providers are also checked if they are implementing the standard.  It maybe happen rarely but I think regulatory board does checks for audits and other purposes. 


Players can file a complaint to the authority.  If the casino is proven guilty they can be fined or revoked their license and forbid them to operate.  In short... depending on the severity of the offense, the casino might be take down by the regulatory board.


I agree, it is much safer to use a licensed casino than a reputable non-licence casino because the latter is not bound by the law.

They didn't mention a specific casino which means they are referring to all (old or new, famous or not famous). It's normal for a new casino to have a limited capital but there are new casinos who prepared really well because they already have a bigger capital on them. I believe it's not about the capital but even if the casino has a big capital, it is still possible for them to scam their users.

A big capital can only be use as a prop for the players to gain confidence about them. Big established casinos don't need to cheat because they are earning enough already. There are people who play live games thinking they are fairer but it's actually the opposite if the theory is true.

I find it hard to believe that online casinos are 100% clean of cheating, I know that most licensed online casinos have audited games by third-party auditors but still, I wonder why many lose more than they make actually, they claim their games are probably fair like many are saying but it doesn't look that way to me.

It looks like the fairness is only in the favor of the casino owners and not the gamblers, I would rather open my own line gambling business and companies around the country than use my hard-earned money to gamble from time to time.

I still gamble, but not every time like most people, it's more like a lucky game to me which makes me less active with gambling, now I play twice a week and that's it, even if I lost twice in the week, I won't try again until the following week.

It depends on the issuer of the license and on the gambling authorities monitoring the compliance with the requirements of the license. So if the casino is licensed in an european, north american, or even a small western country you can be rather confident but if its license comes from a carribean or a small latin american country, I don't think it's highly relevant to consider it as more trustworthy than a reputable non-licensed casino, because it's more likely to avoid any trouble if it pays the price to the good guy.

You are right, there are really some licenses that are  meaningless, I guess this is one of the reasons why sometimes, will still see some casino believed to be operating under a license, scamming its users,

I don't really know much about different jurisdictions and how they run their licensing system, but like you said, casinos operating with licenses obtained from jurisdiction where its license is meaningless, such casino shouldn't be considered as a casino operating under a license, for such casino, a reputable casino with no license is better I believe.

But big casinos and those that actually have big capital are the ones which do not need to cheat on the games, being legitimate it is profitable for them and they would lose their income if they were caught doing it anyways.

If you want my personal opinion, those casinos which are the most likely to cheat on their gamblers are the ones who do not have a long time in the industry nor a history of good reputation and paying their gamblers and at the same time, they are small enough to not catch the attention on authorities.

See, a casino is supposed to have a big enough bankroll to cover the possible wins of their gamblers, if a casino is small and still allows people to wager beyond their entire value as business, then it is a red flag.

Of course that's possible but i wonder what's the reason for risking it as it would need one pair of loose lips to "sink ships". Meaning that this would be hard to keep hidden. People talk when they are drunk and this is a multimillion or if not billion dollar industry that's usually heavily audited. Press would be interested and definitely would pay those underpaid workers more then there salary to give up any dirt on this system.

That comment doesn't really convince me any more then the fact we all know that there's a possibility they cheat. In fact that level of details just sounds like some engineer wanted attention and wanted to show off how he would do it.

The guy's explanation is really convincing and I'm certain many live games are rigged, the problem is how to prove it!
Personally, I avoid playing games where I can't verify the results by myself. I either play provably fair games or sports betting and bet only on major leagues where there is a small chance for match fixing.
If you are a fun of live games then, at least, stick to the one from reputable providers.

I think so. The roulette game has been on the market since the 18th century. But we don't know for how long we using modern technology roulette. We don't know who has invented such cheating methods. How long have they done it? We have been in the modern industry for a long time now. Must be over 20 years? Imagine they have been cheating for 20 years, which is a long time, and you don't know.

They know the risk as well. But, if they use it for a couple of months, they already made more than they can make in a calendar year. It's always hard to make money in a legit way. Once they know they can cheat players, they will continue doing it until people catch them doing shit. So, they still do it knowing that they can get busted.

I've never been to a casino physically. So, I don't know what are they doing there. But, if they have a chance to cheat, of course, they will take the chance. I believe online casinos have more chances to cheat compared to offline physical casinos.

Yes, no one can prove that live games are cheating because gamblers can only watch live in an online casino.
Maybe those who have worked at a live game provider can say that there is an act of cheating, but we don't know how it actually happened.
Actually, what you said is better to bet on games that are proven fair and on sports betting in the premier league, but what type of game can prove fair because in my opinion all games are equal and are controlled by the house so it's difficult for us to win.

Cheating is always possible by casino's whether offline or online. Casino owners are always exposed to ways to manipulate games to their favor, the decision to cheat is their choice to make and that will then depend on the management of the casino. If the management is made up of individuals who are not greedy and have integrity in business, they will always keep the games fair even though they know that they can cheat.

You can be cheated in offline casino's right in front of your eyes, and you will never know.

Really hard to give some fight or proving out if there would be some odd activity or outcomes or results on the time you do notice it out.There's no way you could prove out that they are making use of the same method.
Unless if you are really that playing locally or physically on which it would really be just that possibly be that obvious if they are applying out this rigging up on game. Now that its been exposed, then we do really think
that they wont really be making out some adjustment or creating something new method which arent known or exposed into the public or gamblers. They've been here on this market for decades or for too long in speaking about the existence. No one had the guts or courage on saying about on what they've been doing and now we do see some video in telling that they rigging up the games or rolls when it comes to roulette.

If we do really look at it then those ball bounces are indeed that shady, you could be able to spot out about that ball on sticking into a particular spot once the trigger or button had been pressed.
Somehow we are all just trying to observe out specially when playing on physical casinos but if not then there's no way on telling it specially when you are in front
of your computer or pc.

Even now you can see some of the old methods being used to prevent cheating as part of the games of today, an example of this is found in Texas holdem, have you ever wondered why the dealer burns cards or to put it more bluntly why the dealer discards the top card of the deck when dealing the flop, the turn or the river?

This is done to avoid cheaters marking cards and obtaining an unfair advantage over other players, and even today when you are playing online this practice is still in place, so in a way cheating has changed the games we love and it has make them the way they are.

I agree with you choosing to bet on types of bets that can be calculated by yourself, the results like sports betting will be better.
Yes there may be some manipulation on sports betting but it is very rare and betting on sports betting is one way to keep gambling safe.

Some of you guys here are a fan of conspiracy theories and at the same time weren't attending math lessons at school. Live casino game providers can't cheat because there work thousands of employees, they have cameras everywhere inside and famous casino companies aren't really looking for shady live casino game providers because they simply don't have a need of it. Mathematically, one zero in roulette already gives casinos an advantage, a guarantee that long-term they profit, that's all they need for success and to be in business forever.

So, if you often lose and aren't able to beat the house, that doesn't mean that live roulettes are scam, you have to analyze and understand that you have zero chance to win against it because of ZERO, this ZERO changes the fate of game. And there are roulette games with two zeros, don't expect any win especially from them.

If the chances of winning is zero, then what exactly is the reason why peeps are still playing the game?..

A man said to his mother, when money is involved in a deal, then don't trust anybody, the truth of the matter is that, anybody can cheat, and for some casinos, their desire to make more profit is sometimes higher than their desire to give their customers a fair game to play, this is why I still believe that its very possible for some game providers, casinos to cheat, most especially, on games where the majority of gamblers don't know the game mechanics or how it functions.

Well, that's a bit harsh, don't you think? Not all casinos are out to cheat their customers. However, that doesn't mean there aren't some bad apples in the casino industry who are out to cheat their customers. This risk may be particularly high with new casinos that lack a solid reputation or have dubious licenses and owners. One way to mitigate the risk is to look for casinos that are regulated by respected authorities and have a history of fair play.

I'm not certain, but I don't think provably fair live games exist. I can't think of any pf algorithm that can be used in live games! This is why I said I usually avoid them since you need to trust the provider.
Nevertheless, there are many good and entertaining games (dice, crash, plinko,..) For which you can verify the fairness so you can play them without worrying about being cheated. Pf algorithms guarantee the house can't manipulate the results.

They would really be taking out some advantage if ever they would see the success chance on integrating some shady acts on rigging up their games specially if they do saw that no one really being that suspicious in regards into their operation. We know that if we do pertain about on physical land based casinos on which these places are regulated by the government which they would really be having that kind of thinking or mindset and believing that these business are really that getting in line with government laws which means that fairness is already that been considered and understandable but since we do already have these kind of hint or showing off some possibilities on rigging up specially on roulette then for sure people would really be starting to be that observant.

In the other hand on which talking up generally where these business cant really be just that too confident on applying these rigging up on games because once they would really be caught
then it would really be over for their business which i dont see for it to be worth on doing this one.

We cannot accuse the whole if only found one. it might be only a person so not for all. If I were you, I will only avoid the casino that you find it. As I know, Credible Casino has been audited and checked by officials, so if a casino commits fraud, the office will close the casino and withdraw all licenses, because of that the casino can't play around with cheating, whatever kind, they are under regulation country also which makes them close the casino operation if it harms the customer.

It's not impossible but it sounds pretty complex to be honest. One thing that always bugged me is the camera angles, they're kind a fishy sometimes and no one would notice if they do something behind the frame. Especially if its a live card game or wheel spinning games (there might be someone or something behind the wheel that can stop the wheel when they want). Live casinos already got a ton of users and they're making profits in the long run, right? So why would they risk their reputation for some small-time scams? Doesn't make much sense to me. I think they're more focused on keeping their players happy and coming back. Scamming their own customers is just s bad business.  If you are still concerned but want to play roulette, then play those that are provide inhouse games because they provably fiar and you can verify the bets if they were rigged or not.

No doubt there will be some shady, backstreet physical casinos or even online "live" casinos that utilize such methods - it's always worth looking out for shady behavior but not that the average player would be able to distinguish it versus normal variance of the game. The fact is that this game is already geared towards the house, so all they need to do to make money is to let people play it and it will pay for itself. Taking out the cost of paying for a dealer (which might give the house some incentive to cheat if not enough bets are coming in) and replacing it with an automated system that could release the ball would give them even less incentive to cheat. Frankly, unless you own the casino or have permission from the regulator to check, you'll never be able to tell

Reputable game providers will never do things like that, that's what I'm sure of. Morals aside, they are making good money without cheating anyone, Why risk ruining their reputation?

Many gamblers "feel" that they are cheated by casinos, and so when there's a demand for this kind of info, there's going to be a supply.

There are many of online casinos cheating their customers, no doubt about that. But saying "we are showing ... exactly what's happening with online roulette", like this guy in the video, without adding "on some sites" or something like that,  makes this video looking more like a conspiracy theorists' stuff. I wasn't surprised by seeing this comment below the video

https://i.imgur.com/s5AHgkf.png

Yeah "Wake up peeps! The governments are cheating everybody!" Bloody hell.  ;D ;D

It is good that you cleared the theme and that is the cheating mostly happened in "Some Casino" and not the majority , as the game provider must be the one to be blamed if ever there is a uncommon things happened from the gaming.
but also correct that there are possible scam directly from the site if they are the one providing the live streaming.
so it supports the most posts here about this is not about site but the provider in which I agree since day one .

From that youtube comment, and looking at the details of how its done... the person sounds well informed of what happens behind the scenes, and this information comes from his/her experience in the control room or from a manufactures point of view and I have no doubt that these games are manipulated because too much money goes into gambling and the house wants to secure its share and keep them in business.

I have seen people go out with such a strategy and it looks like bad luck at first glance, but believe you me, when its not your day to win it won't happen, at least if the house doesn't want you to win anyway ::)
I t actually gets worse with American roulete where we have two zeros....

agreed, not all do it but the bad apples ruin the name for all out the there..

Btw, If its not caught on camera or something these allegations will always fall on deaf ears and needs concrete evidence to prove the manipulation that's going on because non will ever agree.

Even if you think you can calculate the game, most of the times your calculation will still be off because if it doesn't then many gambling sites will close. In sports betting, you can do an analysis to increase your chances of winning. Many bettors still prefer it compare to the casino games because everything works in random there and past results won't help at all on predicting the future outcome of the game.

There is no such thing as safe gambling, and manipulations does happen in sports betting too. There are lots of them in lower leagues. It's just that many of them are hard to be spotted but it made sense because it will be a big problem if they will be discovered.

Frauds in gambling have always been a problem. And launching gambling in the IT has widened the possibilities to deceive people. Roulette in casino is visible, and such tricks are more likely to be discovered by players standing close to it. And when the process goes in media, many fraud schemes are undiscoverable until leaks occur...

indeed , that is why I believe that if there will be a casino site that will act like this are those desperately wanted to earn or those Fly By Night casino in which after gathering depositors and players? then they will gone like a wind.

I have experience something similar but that is when i was still new and know nothing from how scammers and legit casino operates.
if this is true , then that guy should show which casino and he must stand with his accusation .
Hahaha  ;)

Thanks for your support mate!

Indeed, I'm tired of watching such videos, and it's even more annoying to see positive reaction to this garbage. 4k likes from losers that can't accept their losses without blaming someone!

And look at the pinned comment to the video:

https://i.imgur.com/m7n8ZJi.png

A winning strategy for a totally luck-based game, FFS! What else do you need to see what kind of guy this RouletteMan is? But, no, some people just choose to be blind.

In a way this makes sense, if people came to accept the fact that they lost the money against a particular casino simply because that is how the games are designed to work and learn to move on, then how those which sell useless strategies are going to make money?

So they need to convince naive players that it is in fact possible to win in a luck based game, and some of the reasons that explain why this has not been the case yet is that they have been cheated and that they have yet to try the strategy they have created, reasons that we know are false but which will resonate with enough people so they keep trying those useless strategies.

    -  Yes, you are right on that point, it's just that sometimes even the license can be faked by the owner of a new casino here in the cryptocurrency business industry.

That's why the others are okay with spending money even if it's fake so they're sure there are many foolish gamblers to enter large amounts of money to gamble on their platform, because this is what other gambling owners think here in the crypto space that cryptos are based on players in gambling games here.

I think that detecting that a slot machine is fraudulent is something very difficult to prove, as far as I am concerned I have never focused on winning in them, because it is something that I see as very difficult, I only play them to de-stress, and if I lose then I accept it And now, there is no possibility that I can claim, first because I like them, I enjoy them, I don't play them to make money, in case I win, I wouldn't feel bad, but I don't expect lastragmoands to gnar like for example when I play another game like poker. black jack or similar.

Yes, you are right on that point, I've seen some scams trying to do that. That's why it's important to check for licensing, read reviews, and verify the site is trusted and safe. But honestly, some people don't care about all that. They just want to gamble and don't care if it's fake or not. It's sad, but true.


I think the problem is that many people are attracted to the anonymity and lack of regulation in the crypto space, which makes it easier for shady operators to take advantage of them. I'm not sure if such people are foolish or just naive and uninformed... One thing's for sure, we need to be vigilant and stay informed about the casinos we're playing at. Don't let greed blind us and always be aware of the risks involved in gambling, especially in the volatile crypto space.

Let’s assume they have such highly sophisticated system to jump the ball anywhere from 0-36 but I do not get the point here to do this.

At any given point, on any live casino and on any gambling site there are always hundred to thousand peeps are gambling their money on roulette table. How would the dealer know which number is most profitable to them?
There are high odds that every number is accounted for by hundreds of bettors across single game.

Ideally speaking there is high chance that whole table is covered with some amount of money at any given time thus giving higher odds to casino on not losing anything. Why make such huge technology then?

Provable fair games or casinos has been a thing of question but somehow, you've got to play. You've got to find a casino that appeals to your conscience and gamble with them. It doesn't have to be 100% but, could be better than the lot out there.

Manipulation of games could happen or intact does happen but, you could be rest assured its not only about Roulette. The rest games that follows similar sequence could be manipulated as well by means of them charges as presented. Where negative to negative would repel while the positive does attract.

I've seen these charges switch in electromagnetism but, having it used this way, its something I hoped not still, I would say online casinos are doing the most they could to earn trust and we've got very fair ones out here.

It is simple they have the stats and they can know which one is profitable by just pressing a single button.  We are in an automation era na.  Manual stuff is jut the history of the past except for some cases of course.


As I stated, they can always create a program that can calculate which number is the most profitable one, and they can adjust the cheat with a single push of button outside the recording camera.


Do you mean technology to cheat?  Obviously, it is to get a huge gain in every game player. Maximizing profit is the name of the game here, I believe.

  I don't think a lot of casinos, reputable ones most especially will resort to this kind of exploitation to maximize their profits. The business model is already highly favoring towards them as it is and doesn't need any more alterations or whatnot, plus the risk of being found out and getting rebuked over the internet, leading to customer losses and other detrimental things just outweigh the benefits. Which is why I trust casinos/crypto casinos to never do things like this.

And also the reason why I don't go out of my way to discover casinos besides the ones I already established my trust with. I don't and I couldn't gamble away my trust over extra prizes and bonuses, and am only here for fun and entertainment, so for the sake of being treated fairly I play on reputable casinos only.

Lucky for me because I only choose to play in casino that I trust and also trusted by many and that is what I do believe is great for safeties and not becoming a scam victim.
yes roulette is very easy to manipulate while the video given is indeed reliable , but if we choose to play in casino that care more about their reputation than profit?
then that will never takes place,
Roobet.com is one safe place to play and surely you will never regret playing there.
and also with so many bonuses , events , give away and other stuff that Gamblers or even bitcointalk memers are gaining?
I'm sure that those prototype scamming videos will never takes place .
just be cautious and vigilant and trust me  you will never be a victim ..NEVER!!!

This is certainly not the first time a video have been posted for us to monitored and watch out for scams in gambling. Scams can never be completely eliminated from gaming; every day, we are made aware of a new fraud danger in the area, notably aimed at beginners. These are the ones that are most likely to fall victim to the hoax. I've seen top frauds pointed in my direction, but because to my experience and careful steadiness, I was able to stay out of all of their traps. My colleague was a victim of one of the alluring casino scams because he was too greedy and never accepted for less. Always desperate for additional money from the market, which is not recommended.  

There is no wa that we can eliminate scammers , but the thing is that we can not allow them to victimize many by learning what needs to be done.
scammers are only there if there are willing victims , because why need to deal in not so trusted casino when we can easily join the most trusted sites?
lol better not to deal with them because we are here to win and enjoy and not just to give our money to those scammers .

Trust. It's basically the unspoken alliance of the gambling world. Sure, not every casino is a slam dunk, but hey. Some? Gambling's seedy backstreets. Others? Reliable bright lights in the sky. Roobet.com? Think of a beacon lighthouse in the midst of raging seas. Roobet.com puts your mind at ease with its unparalleled safety and excellent benefits. You should try your luck on Roobet.com. Roobet.com will help you navigate the risks of online gambling like an expert. Believe me!

even for roulette, it is not good, like you've said, it is not worth their reputation in anyway.
I do not like to jump.into conclusion based on other person's opinion though, I'll have to personally confirm this.

I always suspect that some form of manipulation on the balls and the pockets are happening when the high rollers come in. Though for a normal table with low-medium bets, I doubt they’ll risk getting caught as most of these people in this bracket are the ones who are overanalyzing everything. But yeah, it’s not really a shock to me if in case they’re really doing something like this given how sophisticated tech has become and how much money casinos are making to have access to this type of tech and apply it on their games.

Casinos have their own way of doing it that we as gamblers don't need to know, after all it's not something uncommon for casinos to cheat or manipulate games, casinos can earn big money from what they do, I'm not a roulette gambler but I believe that there is interference hands of the casino in roulette and other slot machine games.

I don't want to say much about the casinos that do this because not all casinos are cheating because there are some big casinos that are provably fair so they are more worth playing than the small casinos, sometimes only the small casinos might be able to do that because they want to earn a lot of money from gamblers.

Many will be surprised, but cheating in every Live game! Baccarat, Blackjack and more!
Play for small stakes at the first table. This way you increase your chances of winning.

Wouldn't it be too obvious for small casinos to do this since there will be a lot of incentives for them to do this. Also, most of the small casinos are relatively new, and people are still on the process of reviewing every single detail on the platform and that includes the games, the functionality of the site, and the overall feel of the platform. With big casinos, they can pretty much get away with it although of course the risks are a lot greater for them compared to the small casinos because they can potentially lose a lot more than the small casinos.

Being small or big, its never been that ideal nor wise nor really that ethical on having considerations on rigging up one of your games just to make some advantage against your players or clients who would really be
sooner or later would be able to bust up on what you've been doing on a particular time.Yes, you can cheat but on the time you would get busted then say goodbye into your business.

As of the mindset on having small casinos would be applying such cheat then it would be less likely, they would rather be going on that honest track rather than on being manipulative or cheating.
Some owners would really be having those kind of fear about karma or whatsoever in correlation to this because of none doing good or really that taking advantage of others.
When you do ran up a business then be fair as much as possible and this is where most owners would be getting in line with.

While this could work for the short term as absurd as it may sound it is not on the best interests of a casino to cheat like this, think about it even if no client ever realized what was going on, this will create a casino in which no one ever wins.

And a casino like that will soon find itself without any clients, as without the success stories which gamblers share with their friends or social media such a casino will fail to gain new clients at the same rate as a legitimate casino, and without new clients a casino like that is destined to fail.

   -    That's true, amh scammer if he doesn't change, he will still find a way to scam people. That's why we should avoid and be wise in reading the scammer just to get money from other people.

And it's also common that a scammer can't scam a high-reputation casino gambling because they definitely won't be able to prey on it. So what they prefer is that it looks like a legitimate casino but it really isn't.

Well, before I saw that pinned comment to the video I thought they were just a bunch of idiots on that channel, with another bunch following them. But saying they know how to win in roulette makes them liars, apart from still being idiots, obviously.

There's so little reliable info on gambling anywhere apart from this forum so that people watch and read some total garbage and some of them believe it. It's terrible.

Earlier I was curious about Roulette so that made me enter site to play it.
But it seems that Roulette is a slightly crazy game for now.
The numbers are indeed random, but there are statistics on the percentage of the number column which has a more profitable chance, but the statistics do not really guarantee the number the ball will occupy when it stops.
I played for a while and only saw small wins and no big wins at all for gamblers who also bet there.
Whether this is a pure manipulation game or really clean, I don't know what's clear, if you only have a small balance and can't accept defeat, it's highly not recommended to try this game.

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You are absolutely correct mate, and your point is very clear, it is like they say that one does not eat his or her cake and still have it, a casino cheating on its immediate customers are indirectly cheating on themselves too, cus like you said, when gamblers discover that there's never been any significant win from such casino, they will start avoiding the casino for sure, and in the long run, such casino will be left with no customers.

Proves that casinos that always post on their social media accounts, big winnings made from their platform, don't do so for fancy, it's a marketing tool that motivates their immediate customers to keep gambling, and also attract new customer to the casino who would want to try to make similar kind of winning.

I have no reason to be scared why playing any game in a casino  because I believe  that the casino  wouldn't let a third party game provider to ruine their business name and hence would do some fi dings and auditing on the games before publishing them and that's why it is always good to trust a particular  casino so you wouldn't have to be bothered over some irrugalarities and I'm sure that if at any point an irregularity especially related to cheating is reported to the casino about a third party game and its provider,  there are great chances that the game might be taken down so there isn't any much need to be scared.

It won't take long before any casino that is cheating it customers runs out of business because the fastest way for any business to die down is to take what belongs to its customers there is a saying that goes that if you lose one good customer, you are indirectly losing 10 potential customers.

And same rule applies to casinos or other businesses the only time you can see a casino not paying attention to the feelings of their customer is when there are already set out to scam them, and those kinds of casinos are not hard to noticed and from the mood of operations, you can easily identify them and that is how fast the reputation get dented.

No secrets that could be hidden like forever, if there's a smoke then there's fire on which it might be caught by now but on the right time there would be leaks that a certain company or platform is really cheating out their users and if this issue would blown out then anticipate that it would scatter out like wildfire and there's no way on stopping it and as an owner then you might be able to benefit on making easy money through cheating up users then it would really be an over line for you.

Rigged and unfair casino or platform does exist, it is really just that there's no way for us to verify out if ever we do have those doubts but most of the time these kind of mindset is into those someone who
do just simply likes on looking for someone to blame. This is why even those fair companies would really be able to be included on to that blaming time of those losing gamblers.
Checking on the video then it is quite that obvious though on where the ball do lands and sticks out obviously. We might that able to notice it out but this is the only
time it was elaborated.

I find this interesting as there a way in order to manipulate roulettes. With the technology used and the materials placed on the board, I find it very intriguing that certain factors can help manipulate the outcome in order to gain a big advantage for the casino to play.

Is there some verified information about this? I am very interested to read more as it can lead to serious manipulation that may hold the casino accountable, if proven guilty. Though this may be the case, I still find roulettes intimidating in nature due to the luck that is involved in this type of game.

Most especially her in the forum, it's very hard for any scam to rein for long here before it gets busted and I am sure this also will result in the same thing, just as you have rightly said, whenever there is a smoke, there must definitely be a fire so is scam accustions, whenever you hear of them, it then means that casino has some characteristic that is not legit unless on few occasions were there can come out clean.

We have one or two casinos that have been busted in this manner before here in the forum, even if the never get caught outside the forum, but one can not hard bad character for long and I'm the long run everything they're worked for to build the scammy casino will probably be in vain since there may end up in jail in the case against them is proven in court.

To be honest, whenever I have played roulette it has always happened to me that I always seek to play with 0 and 00, I don't know, but they are the numbers that I always play and I like when there are many people in roulette and they can play at the same time, because my chances of winning increase, so it could be said that yes, they may be weaknesses but those weaknesses can become strengths, and that's what I did when I started in physical casinos,of course things change when they play in a casino online, the strategies change for me, it should be played more generally.

Well, I don't even think this is true, a casino that gets a lot of customers already earns a lot of money since the house mostly wins and casinos are always in profit, why would they need to cheat their players only to get some money and obviously, if a casino continues doing that, they will probably get caught some day.

A casino management would probably think of the long term growth of their casino instead of getting some money by risking the whole reputation of their casino. That doesn't sound like a good deal to me.

When we do play then it would really be just that normal that we do really have that kind of strategy on which we would really be tending to stick out because we do really believe that we could really be having that luck and advantage but well all of those things are just hunches or really that having the intuition but on the time that everything doesnt really work then this is the time we would really make out some adjustments which it would really be that normal. As long we do really enjoy on what we are doing then what that matter the most.

In the talks about possible rigging up the game or whats shown on op then it could be possible but its really that impossible that it wont really be busted up by those people who do able to see some oddness
of those  ball jumps or on how it do moves.I dont know on how it would be applied into those online roulette which we know that it cant be applied unless if those programs or codes are really that
intended on giving out disadvantage into its players but for physical then i didnt really expect that this one could really be possible basing up on the video where there are
triggers on which making the ball sticks into a particular color or number.  :o

It's important to be cautious when it comes to claims of casinos manipulating roulette or any other casino game. The truth is that casinos have measures in place to prevent cheating, and any attempts to manipulate may have legal consequences, or, at minimum, may make you loose your earning and have issues withdrawing money. Bear in mind the vast majority of roulette games are fair and operate based on random chance.

Indeed, not all Roulette games or other games in the casino involve acts of manipulation, but there are some casinos that do carry out these actions and the average is a small casino that has the aim of cheating from the start.
If in a big casino I'm sure they can be relied on because they really maintain the trust of customers and also maintain a good reputation but if in a small casino I'm not sure I can rely on it and trust it too much.
It is true that most Roulette operates based on random chance, but if the numbers that come out can be the same sequentially then the gamblers who play there must have the thought that the game has been manipulated.
I know claiming that casinos carry out acts of manipulation is not a good thing and we have to be careful, but a sense of suspicion about things that don't make sense is normal, in my opinion, friend.

This is why the most important thing is only gamble on an old and reputable third party providers, the risk of the games are manipulated or rigged are very low since they've been audited. There have been few third party providers get excluded by top casinos because they found the providers have a rigged game. More importantly people need to gamble for entertain, not for making money or source of income.

In everything that we do, truth must always be involved in other for us to enjoy them lasting, those that were built under deceit may last only but for a while, we've seen many casinos that started well but ended the wrong and bad way because their real standard was not maintained when they started initially, all these among other challenges make some gamblers finds it difficult to trust some casino especially the newly established ones because they were afraid of confiding trust in them, we should learn to present things exactly the way they are.

I'm personally not a fan of roulette and I think there are much better games that one can play and try their luck which might provide better results than roulette since there are a lot of outcomes and it is very difficult to get it right, maybe it is not the same for everyone but I really find it difficult and annoying sometimes.

About the manipulation, I don't think there is any verifiable proof of these claims, and if there was, I doubt if this wouldn't be a case being handled by lawyers already since if a casino is cheating their players this way, they need to be closed down.

You are right if we were talking about real casinos, they won't want risk their reputation for pennies. But the truth is that those scammers don't actually run casinos (company) with a real team but mostly a scammer or two who bought a cheap ready-made script and integrated few fake slot games into it. The whole operation won't cost more than few hundreds dollars. Their plan is to scam as many customers as possible and vanish immediately after they get exposed, then rinse and repeat with a new name and new design.

I watched the video, and roulette has been rigged by magnets since a long time ago, but I am still not sure if it is rigged in the live games in casinos. I mean, we have seen some high rollers winning big amounts in the past, and when I say big amounts we are talking about bets bigger than $1 million. But on the other hand as the video show, the ball in the game sometimes has a really weird move.

In the end if the game is rigged that means the high rollers should lose, and since we can't see what numbers are they betting then It is still kind of fair for us. We shouldn't worry about our lows bets.

It depends on which kind of casinos you are playing the roulette, if you are doing so online I will admit the roulette can be a very boring game, however if you are gambling at a physical casino the roulette can be one of the most exciting games you can play, as the atmosphere is something that cannot be matched on other gambling games.

Still the accusations of casinos cheating at the roulette have always existed, but very little evidence exists about it despite how easy it could be to prove it, if you take a large enough sample of the numbers that come up at the roulette you could find if there is some sort of irregularity with the rate at which the numbers appear, but if you do not find anything then the only explanation left is that you were unlucky when gambling at the roulette and the casino did not cheated.

I also have some question in mind sometimes because As a player of roulette(specially lightning roulette) that the behavior of the ball changes and acting abnormal .
there are chances that it is already in a number but suddenly changing to another before it stopped.
made me think that there are some cheating happening , though i am not a high roller yet this is for me some kind of wrong not mentioning that sometimes it comes to my advantage.
maybe this is really in the online casino nowadays as high technology is taking place anywhere and everywhere .

I don't think they need these tricks to win against the players. The math behind these games already gives a major advantage to the casinos. Maybe some casinos are doing it and I would believe that. It is because there are many greedy cheating players among us and it wouldn't be surprising if some casinos are also greedy cheating fucks. Who knows what the online casinos are doing. Most of them are provably honest but what about those aren't? I guess we should go to a casino only if are sure of their honesty.

That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.

But this type of roulette game used to give me a sizable win where the number I bet was placed in the multiplier and that number succeeded in becoming the number occupied by the ball that stopped spinning, but now it's more difficult than I imagined.
Even though it's hard to win, I can't really assume that some of these games have been rigged because we ourselves don't know how it really happened.
Instead of thinking about things that are not clear, I prefer to move on to other games that can provide fun and can be relied on.

I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.

Bet according into your liking and preference on which there are indeed moments which i do really make out only bets on colors whether black or red but not considering on putting up some chips on 0.

It does really vary though because when betting up on colors then i could usually be making up some martingale strategy if ever it would be having a loss, which we know that this is a common
way or strategy when playing out which could be applied on slots too. It would really be impossible specially on a live casino or physical one on having that 3-5 same color streaks
unless if its really that been rigged or they would be detecting out that there's someone who do make some martingale.

As for online gaming platform then there's no way that we could be able to identify if they are really that rigging up their games on where they do really have that unfair every roll
they would made.

Well, slot machines are still the most loved and played gambling games in the world and the reason for that is probably the possibility of winning very big amounts due to the high multipliers that they provide while in roulette, you can't get that much even if you win a bet or two, also, the graphical user interfaces and gameplay of slot machines attract a lot of users.

I don't love roulette and that is the reason why I never play it but I have a relative who plays it a lot and I've seen him mostly betting or colors and also odd and even numbers as well since there are 50-50 chances of winning in these two.

Even though I've tried my luck a few times, I haven't had any luck playing roulette. despite the fact that I attempted using some of the players' advised techniques, I was still unsuccessful. In contrast to when I played slots, I frequently obtain a good win even if I don't follow any rules or strategies. I continue to hear positive winning roulette player stories, nevertheless.
It might merely imply that there are games designed to make us feel lucky while we are enjoying ourselves. In a game that isn't our strong suit, we can't force ourselves to succeed. If we had luck playing it, we couldn't accuse any game of defrauding us. We should search for a better game that would suit our luck and interests if we feel unlucky while playing it.

i can count on my fingers the number of times i played roulette ^{(i don't really like roulette but a friend of mine who comes from Germany really likes roulette)} and i used to try the inside bet but the news about the potential for cheating in this roulette game was the first i heard.

anyway....AFAIK, if you really find the potential for fraud in roulette games or other casino games on online gambling sites or offline casinos, then immediately go viral and report it to the local regulatory authorities because large gambling sites & large offline casinos are usually monitored very closely by the authorities.

I understand you, I also have friends who like roulette very much, and now when we can see the possibilities of winning roulette wheels, they are somewhat relevant, with little money you can obtain considerable profits, the bad thing is that a person bets a lot and they want to have or be in a better position, I have looked for many roulette strategies and they have quite a few, but you have to have a lot of money to apply them all and see which is the Best strategy , the one that best suits and has the most success, I have a way to play very carefully , I do not risk much, it is that the roulette wheels have many ways to Spend and not leave Profits , you must be very Careful.

If a casino is cheating, it will obviously do it in such a way that gamblers won't even notice that they are getting scammed or cheated by the platform or the game they are playing, otherwise, the casinos that are being talked about would have already been closed down since a lot of people would already report them to the authorities that take care of them.

Only a few people might feel that something is wrong with the game or the casino and they might try to reach the end of that unless there is a player who doesn't really pay any attention to such things, all they care about is gambling.

The guy in the comment is speaking as if he was the dealer Back in Las Vegus and knows every ups and downs within the casino. I don’t believe this at all because of the odds and complicated assumptions from any bettor. At any time there might hundreds of bets that are live and thus making it impossible for the so called sophisticated computer to decide where to push the ball.

What if the number which computer decided is on the opposite side of the 360 round about, will it magically transfer the ball to that side? Seems some irrelevant information without any seen proofs.

The problem with that is, in online casinos there are a lot of people betting on various numbers and other things like odd and even etc. So, unless you find a time when the whole casino is empty, its probably not gonna work. Also, I'm sure they don't make it that obvious if the casino is actually rigged. I'm sure they are smart enough to no rig it everytime or it would be blatantly obvious and easily caught.

You've picked a fine kettle of fish to dissect - the Martingale strategy, a classic in the roulette wheel of betting techniques. But surely, we're not putting all our chips on just one square of the gambling chessboard, are we?

The Martingale, while popular enough to get invited to every poker night, carries a heavyweight risk tag. Hit a dry spell, and you'll see your bets climbing the staircase to bankruptcy quicker than a greased lightning. Ever heard of the D'Alembert strategy? It's like the Martingale's cousin from the quiet side of the family, a tad less boisterous because you only raise your bet by a single unit after a loss. Doesn't that sound like a smoother ride on the betting rollercoaster?

In the matter of online gaming fairness, you're hitting the bullseye when saying we can't peek under the hood to spot any rigged games. But hey, plenty of online casinos have a watchdog sniffing their heels, with regulations and routine check-ups ensuring they play fair. Shouldn't we extend a little trust to these guardians of fairness, or are we too deep in the trenches of doubt?

I personally have been reading about the attitudes of roulette games organizers and I did not really see it as a thing to worry about because I have not had the experience with them. When I decided to try the game, I got registered on one of the roulette game and it is a live casino though so J had a little confidence in the system of being reliable, transparent and credible. I played several times and won big but I never made any withdrawal. One day the funny happened. While playing live I noticed how the staff present packed up after I had placed a bet, after taking their records, they went in while my bet was still pending I had to chat their live pm nobody responded and after a while waiting someone came in and I noticed a change in his behavior and there the game continued and I lost virtually all my bets and funds I used. Ever since that experience, I stopped roulette games and marked tat casino to not near them anymore.
   

While without a doubt is possible there are casinos that cheat their customers at the roulette, such a thing will require such a complex mechanism that it makes way more sense for the casino to simply change their payout structure, this way they can achieve the same effect without cheating anyone.

Besides a great deal of the accusations against casinos come from gamblers which are sore losers and they cannot accept it is indeed possible to lose many times in a row and lose all their capital, especially if they are not careful.

With the level of technology that's available to humans now it's very possible to remotely influence the outcome of every spin as a way to reduce winnings to it's barest minimum. Game providers are the ones in the frontline of any cheat that is being experienced in online casinos but there are other better ways to do things fairly to still keep business running and profitable at same time without having to defraud people behind the scene.

 For any online casino that cares so much about reputation and gaining trust from their customers I believe that the best interpretation they can give to that is to refute any cheat game cause there are lots of gamblers that definitely pays attention to these acts because it doesn't give value to their hard earned money.

That is the essence of the game mate , it become more difficult but it is more profitable , the only thing you need is find luck and you will easily succeed in your gambling activities .

but nowadays i stopped playing lightning instead i choose regular roulette in which there is little than that to earn but at least not that difficult to deal with.

I love playing in Duelbits.com https://duelbits.com/ and believe me , it is worth a play.

well that is what we must do , and besides what will be the return if we cry because of the rigged games?

lets just find a better site and trust me , you will never experience such that .

What you say is true when I bet on numbers the chance of winning is smaller and if I bet on the pool there are 3 and I have to choose one of them.
The method you use is quite good where you bet on colors because there are only 2 colors and the chances of winning are greater than choosing numbers.
The choice of number 0 is a little difficult to win because remember that the number 0 very rarely comes out when the ball stops.
It seems that you are quite experienced in playing roulette, friend, good luck in every roulette game session you play.

Now that the technology aspect we are into is advancing everyday, we should expect more of these things to surface especially people seeking for a way to manipulate systems to get what they really wants.
 Now we now have chatgpt that is advising with fast speed and other artificial intelligence that are coming up with great improvement. It will soon get to a time where many system is going to be compromised because of how technology is advancing.

They obviously don't make it so obvious, even a kid would know that he is being cheated if this kind of practice is done with them where he leaves only one number blank and only that number comes up every single time. Even if a casino cheats, they do it in such a way that their gamblers won't even realize that they are actually being cheated.

When it comes to roulette, I think cheating on it can be pretty easy since there are a lot of outcomes and no one would even doubt if the outcome has been manipulated or controlled by the management in any way possible.

Slots machine are popular because of how it was designed.  It is designed to entice people and connect with the senses of the player through hearing, and sight.  If we try to observe a slot game, it has a good design and audio that is not tiring to watch and listen to.  All gambling games have the possibility to win huge amounts but slots lead them because of their design.



True no one will expect that the machine used is rigged and manipulated by the operator unless they overdo their cheating and make the ball defy the law of gravity and momentum.

There's no way that they would be making out too obvious for some gamblers would be able to caught up on what they've been doing secretly. Somewhat you could really be able to assume out that the possibility is there specially that we've seen out this kind of way or method of cheating which we cant even tell if this one had already been done out on some cases or simply just newly been busted up or it cant be possible
since its way too obvious?

On the time that you are playing and you've noticed out something in your very own eyes, Then what you would gonna do? Would you really tend to make up some moment on suing them out directly?
What if your accusations were wrong? For sure you would be having doubts on pushing out that kind of justice just because you do have those hunches that you've been cheated.
This is why if ever someone do make out some possible observation or have odd feeling then they would surely just keep it on their own rather than on making a scene.

Did you warn others about the platform so that no one else had to face the same thing that you did? If not, you should have, because what happened to you is shady as hell and a casino shouldn't be that way. If there is a problem in the live feed or something or any other technical problems occur, the support team should let you know and refund the money.

I wouldn't blame all the casinos for that nor the game of roulette but the platform that you were using should obviously be avoided by anyone not only for playing roulette but for any game they offer since they can do this for any game they are offering.

That's an interesting take on live roulette gambling and the user seems to have really investigated the topic. I have heard about it in the past that the roulette ball and wheel can be  manipulated to give one party an advantage. The question is would you risk your whole reputation to scam a few customers? I know from some physical casinos that also run online live roulette tables and they use the exact same tables as in their physical casino. If news come out the tables are not legit than the casino could close it's doors, nobody would visit again. I don't think the risk pays of for the casino, because roulette is already a profitable game by itself. The green numbers 0 and 00 ensure that long term the casino will make money with their tables. Hopefully this was a minor incident and won't be discovered at other casinos too.

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

Without a doubt, this fiasco casts a harsh light on the credibility of the online gambling community we all enjoy. Like the enigma behind the Last Supper artwork, this one has to be solved. You have to understand that the algorithms powering these online casinos - especially the live games - are a labyrinth. Something went wrong with their operation; either a technical glitch or, heaven forbid, a deliberate attempt at deception.

Choose your online gambling establishment with the care you'd take picking a lock on a safe. Verify the RNG is legitimate by looking for a golden licence. The main thing is clarity. The best ones will wear their random number generator (RNG) and licence like a badge of honour. Also, the best casinos have first-rate support staff. Their lack of noise when you play? A loud alarm goes off. You can avoid unpleasant shocks by checking their reviews and the quality of their customer service. Don't part with your cash without first doing some research. If it's worth its salt, a casino will treat its customers like royalty and answer their questions in the speed of light.

I don't play roulette very often but so far, when I do play roulette, nothing strange has happened (or I haven't been paying attention). But even though I experienced the weirdness and knew it was weird, I guess I wouldn't take any action either because I was too lazy to argue over small money. And luckily, I've never won big at roulette either so maybe nothing weird has happened to me.

But it's true that if we notice something odd about the casino, we should warn others or at least we can make a review here and ask the opinion of other friends. I think there must be friends here who also have the same experience or have even played at the casino so we can find out what really happened.

Those platforms should be avoided at any cost because I also think that if they can do that for Roulette than they can do that for any other game without any obligations. Their main intention is to scam users and such platforms will find ways to scam users with various tricks and most of them are not known to us yet.

I have done some bets on a good casino site that I won't name because that'll fall into promotion category if I do that, the casino was doing the things fairly but I believe that there are many such casinos doing shady things and the users should avoid those casinos at any cost.

I still believe that not every casino site is doing these things and the reputable ones would never let their image go down by scamming others. They are already making a lot from their casinos so they don't need to scam users to earn extra income.

Well, one can easily find a lot of such incidents and things that will make it suspicious that the casino is cheating the gamblers and not being totally honest with the bettors and the outcomes of the games, it might be true sometimes if the casino is not very reputable and pretty new but it isn't always correct especially when there is a reputable casino in question.

Besides, every single gambler playing at a table will surely sense it if the casino is cheating them with every high bet they make because it is not possible for the house to win every single bet when a gambler has a high stake.

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

What happens is that these are very delicate accusations, one could speculate about some casinos that could cheat, but boy is it very difficult , in my case I know that the casino that is declared to be cheating here in the forum is 1xbit,and That has been declared, there are many tests and the casino does not really take into account what many have told them so that they do not continue in these illegal activities of obtaining money in exchange for taking it from others, we also have to remember that it is valid that bcasinios always They will have the home Advantage, and the Additional advantage of each Game, since these things are what every Player must Fight for.

To be fair on known scammer 1xbit. They are not proven cheating against players using rigged games since they are just using 3rd party games like the other casino. They are known scammer for holding users balance and all their scam accusation case doesn’t related to cheating games.

I think there’s no known case in regards with the games on all existing casino except for those house game which is verifiable via hash seed. But the rest of the games of casino nowadays is close source which means you can only prove that they are cheating if you examine physically their machine or the provider release the source code of the game.

It's not difficult as long as we can provide a solid proof. A casino can cheat through their games but we can always verify the results. I think almost casino has this feature now. We can contact their customer support first before posting a thread here but we must take a screenshot because they can delete the conversation or block your account if they are guilty.

There are so many casinos now and there are so many of them are scam but here in the forum 1xbit is the biggest and the most popular. It's only unfortunate to see that 1xbit still continues their operation so there are still people outside the forum who can get victimized but it's also their fault for not doing their research.

There's no way on knowing that and most of platforms nowadays are really just that including those providers specially with slot games on which same as you mentioned that there's no way on verifying those bets
since it would be a closed source. There's no way for an individual to point some fingers that they were really that rigged or not fair without having those evidence which is really a normal approach.
This is why there's nothing we can do but to embrace out on what are the outcomes.

In regarding about 1xbit then this is a platform on which they do held up their users funds and not on the games itself which it do makes them shit. About those roulette possible
rigging up then there's no way on proving it out when you are inside of a casino on which there's no way for us to point out fingers even if we do feel out there's something wrong.

I agree, just because we lose at a specific game we cannot make the conclusion the casino is cheating, that is quite a leap of logic, because as we know we can lose simply because the odds are against us, now if the losses are consistent then some suspicions could be had, but unless there is evidence of any wrongdoing then making those accusations is going too far.

Now demonstrating a casino is cheating is nowhere near as difficult as it may seem, you just need to be ready to collect enough results and make some calculations and see if there is something wrong with the results we have been having.

Though I also started believing this could be scam but just because we saw glitch from one game play we can’t just blame it. The problem with the strategy is really off the record and unproven method so far. The electromagnetism and shit is just technical words they are using due to the fact that they want people to see this is literal serious case. We would never know how it works as long as we do not enter into that system by all ourselves.

Apart from this, even if they are pre-recorded the odds of choosing correct numbers by the computer behind it are too tiny. Casino could end up losing a lot of money. The math doesn’t add up here.

It's very easy to assume that casinos are cheating on you when you can't experience any wins. Probabilities should be taken on every games that you have played. Maybe at that time, you were on a losing streak. Then when it is time for you to win, you doubted it and not you did not bet. Then you make yourself believe that the house is cheating on you. It is actually you who messed up the positive outcome over a series of trades. That if you just continue betting, you will win.
Some call it luck. But you create your own luck when you stay on a system and let the probabilities play out.

Well I don't think that casino will start to cheat though, I mean they have the house edge already and in this case in baccarat, there are 36 numbers to choose if there is a single 0 and the odds increases if it is double 00.

And with that, it added the odds on their side if they will do this form of cheating, that's why it is not recommended to play this game although I will admit that I have been playing roulette more often, and I immediately get out once I have won some. But if I will do the month, then I will say that I'm on the losing side as the rest of the gamblers. I just don't think that the casinos is cheating, it's just maybe I was really unlucky that game.

Whether casinos are cheating there customers or not we need to know the kind of casino we are using so that we are not going to become a victim of circumstances. There are so many casinos that would want to manipulate things without minding the fate of there customers. Casinos always know how they make there money without anyone knowing.

there is no casino platform that is hundred percent sincere because all these platforms are casino have two or three ways they manipulate their things in order to ensure that they are asked advantages side of their customers casino platforms does not give you a hundred percent assurance of not binge eating their customers because without cheating of their customer they won't be able to make it their own money so that is the area that I found casino platforms

True. Casinos already have the house edge advantage which favours them on long term in a legit way every gamblers are aware about, so why would they still cheat and hurt their reputation and guaranteed income? It doesn't make sense for me... At least regards virtual casinos.

The physical ones I'm not so sure about the concern over their reputation, though, because the main public is composed by elder people who aren't very attentive regards potential manipulation which might be happening on the machines, besides the fact it's also harder to examine and analyze the fairness and legitimacy of games' results than in online casinos where the seed of each bet is public and widely accessed by anyone.

I think that many are interested in seeing if it can be manipulated, but it is not something viable, we have something in mind, if we pay attention to roulette, we see that everything is more difficult when betting on a number, because it is a lot the possibility that another one comes out, zero, 00, are possible numbers to which you can have access so that you can win, but I think that we as players can take into consideration that playing with the colors increases the chances of winning , I have seen Things like that, of course if you bet on numbers or others, well , at some point you don't have to win, I see that roulette Wheels are good Options for diversification.

That's business. We must know how to choose the right casino, not take risks by playing at suspicious casinos, and have often deceived the players. By searching for a list of casinos from this forum, we can avoid these fraudulent casinos and play gambling safely and comfortably. And we should not use big money in gambling because there is a risk of losing money in gambling. And we also have to be able to control ourselves and not be easily tempted by offers given by casinos, especially new casinos that we don't know about.

That's not entirely correct and I don't agree with that. Not all gambling platforms or casinos cheat their players so that they can get more revenue through the games being played by gamblers. Most reputable casinos, such as Stake, don't really need to cheat the gamblers so that they can earn more because they already earn enough revenue from the platform that they don't need to do it.

Only the new and untrustworthy platforms will think of such negative ways of increasing their earnings from players because they understand that they don't have a user base big enough to earn them a lot of money so they use such methods.

I laugh buddy hearing those who call casinos to cheat just because they lose.
Should we are aware that gambling will only provide definite opportunities, namely losing and losing, every gambler must have.
We just try it while we are in gambling, the wins we get and the losses we get, of course, we will get far more losses because no gambler can really beat the house edge.
Maybe wins can often be obtained, but that's just a factor of luck and when luck is gone, I'm sure only defeat is in sight.
If you don't want to lose and just call the casino to cheat because of losing then it's better not to gamble because these kind of people can never survive in gambling.

You will definitely experience a consistent loss if you didn't know to manage your bankroll. It's true that casino has an advantage over players because of house edge but that doesn't mean that our winning percentage on gambling is near to 0% because gambling games offer various winning chance rate. It's up to the user on how they can control their bankroll to manage a casual profit.


The chance for a reputable casino to cheat is really low because they don't have any control over the game. The sample video of this specific thread is only possible on the shady provider but the popular roulette provider so far doesn't have this kind of issue. They don't need to resort to this cheap trick to win because they have huge profits on their bankroll from their huge casino wager volume.

I think that here those who say that casinos cheat is because they have lost a lot and are not lucky enough when they stop at roulette to play , I think that one of the things is not knowing how to manage the balance they have, and they owe it lose very quickly ,Because it is Impossible that Only a few say that and not the majority , that is already an indication that things are working well, and I am not on the side of the casinos, it is only logical that a casino Always he will have the Advantage , and we as Players will not , we are Constantly Fighting to survive and make some profit apart from having fun.

When you are playing on a physical casino then it would really be hard to tell if the casino is cheating but it would really be that impossible that they would really be having that kind of rigging up those balls in roulette. Now that this video is been shared up then for sure those gamblers would already have that kind of idea on which it could possibly happen. So on the time that you had noticed out that there's something wrong, then what would you do?

- Would you shout out and tell that the machine is rigged?
- You would just simply leave out the premises and look for another one?
- Or simply this is just an alibi just because you had lost all of your money?

Proving it out that they are doing shady things isnt something that be easy to be done. You would really be facing up some charges
if ever it was proven out wrong.So its better not to take up such risks and better be quite if ever you do find something odd.
Dont fight on whats on your mind and you would really be just creating much bigger problem.

Yes, right. We'd probably say the casino cheated because we lost. But the defeats we experience are because of our own fault for using too much money so we don't realize that the defeat will happen to us. Even though we have the chance to win, we can still experience defeat so we have to prevent it before it happens. The roulette game is based on luck which can help us win so we don't have to blame the casino if we lose. And when we lose, it's a real defeat that we experience, so we must accept it. If we're just having fun, of course, losing doesn't make us too disappointed because that's the risk.

They are just bad losers, I am pretty sure you have met a lot of them not only in gambling but in life, they are the ones that cannot tolerate things not going their way and they even get mad when losing an insignificant board game or another non-transcendent activity.

So when they lose a lot of money when they gamble, they cannot help but to think that somehow they were cheated and create elaborate conspiracy theories about why this happened to them.

Indeed, in my life I have met such people who simply raged and cursed dirty and loudly and even began to smash everything around when they lost even in some completely frivolous game. 
I concluded for myself that such a character, one might say explosive character, is characteristic of people with a schizophrenic mindset.  Not obvious schizophrenics, but people prone to the fact that they think that everyone offends them and is looking for conspiracy theories everywhere.  Of course, they are what is called a little strange people, but they cannot be called crazy either.  But I have met very few such people in my life. 
Nevertheless, they exist, and apparently it is these people who are capable of conducting all sorts of lengthy and more thorough investigations of abuses, for example, in gambling in a casino.  But in reality, it is precisely such abuses, as they thought up for themselves, that simply do not exist in life.

I agree with this. With many millions playing online roulette around the world, of course there are cases when gamblers lose more than expected, and some of them start creating these conspiracy theories. What they don't take into account is the opposite cases, when people win much more than expected. That's what makes the game attractive: you are not always losing exactly 5% of your money; you can lose all of it, or you can win a lot, depending on luck.

We can say that casinos always win but that was not the truth as they also lost sometimes to someone who is too lucky of winning the jackpot. But they never felt it because not all gamblers are too lucky while thousands of gamblers had lost that day. Perhaps, winning a jackpot price in pure luck-based games is very slim which means that the majority will suffer losses while the casino earns more. Sometimes we could think that we got cheated, well, until there is no proof of that, it remains an assumption. Maybe this is really happened in non-reputable sites, but not those who already have a good name.

Leave the opposite cases, the same people, if they have won in a previous session they wouldn't even consider that, and as soon as they lose all their money or a higher percentage of it, they will start blaming the casino for that and will surely say that they have cheated them while the actual fact is that you will either win or lose since it's gambling and it's based on your luck.

Losing or winning more than expected is what the nature of gambling actually is, and that is what makes it fun in my opinion. You shouldn't enjoy gambling if you already know what the outcome would be, the expectation of winning something good makes you wanna keep gambling, but sometimes, it goes the other way around.

There is nothing worse than bad losers! They will tell you all kind of excuses just to prove that they've been cheated whilst the truth is that they were unlucky. I said they were the worst because they obviously have addiction problems and you don't know what their reaction might be.
They gamble because they think they can make money from gambling not because gambling is an entertainment activity.
They are simply "bad losers".

Sorry but I don't agree about your statement of definite opportunities.  It can be refuted by looking at the casino wagering result which is broadcast on its site.  We all know gambling outcome is random so there is no such thing as definite result in a casino, I think the right term would be probably result since casino depends on probability.  There are times when a player wins so saying the only result of gambling is losing is not appropriate.



There should be a condition in this, there are players that gamble, win and quit never to return again.  These players obviously beat the house while there are gamblers who bet, win stop and come back again to gain mor winning but instead were beaten badly by the house.  This is where a gambler can not beat the house. I think house edge is there to give an advantage to the house and not for the gambler to beat.

Roulette is always a scam because it can't be beaten.

I'm not gonna challenge the credibility of the science behind this comment because I don't know anything of substance when it comes to physics and chemistry (which is what I assume is what is at play here) but as with my previous comment, and as with the comments that people have left here I think this is a bit far-reaching. The game is rigged against the player from the get-go, with little to no agency needed from the casino to bump those odds towards them so to actually cheat on these games against the gambler is a little overkill in my opinion. Although if the science is correct and you can really influence the pearl's/ball's movement, this could lead to speculation where some gamblers could exchange the ball for something that is of the same substance as you said above to help them win more games, don't you think?

Your insights open up a Pandora's box of how folks handle the bitter pill of losses, not just at the casino table, but in the high-stakes game of life. The trend of pinning the blame on external baddies when the odds are stacked against us is rather widespread, but it's cranked up to eleven in some souls. This may not be a signal for schizophrenia, but rather an alert for cognitive distortions, where our mind spins a web of alternative truths.

In the roulette wheel of gambling, 'gambler's fallacy' is the celebrity cognitive distortion. This is where the gambler bets his boots that if something's been on a hot streak, it's due for a cold shower, and the other way round. Thus, those on a losing spree often craft elaborate conspiracy theories, swearing they've been hustled. As for your intriguing take on these individuals going full Sherlock in the gambling industry, it's definitely tweet-worthy. Their gumption might shine a light on under-the-table dealings, though it's critical to mention that their accusations are usually as baseless as a cloud, birthed from their cognitive distortions. By advocating mental health awareness and cognitive behavior therapies, we might help these folks hit ctrl+alt+del on their distorted worldviews and reframe their gambling habits.

I would like to point out that being a bad loser does not necessarily mean one is addicted to gambling. Someone who is addicted can be a bad loser and continue go down the spiral of losing money irresponsibly. On the other hand, someone who is not addicted to gambling still can feel mad at their losses and blame anything but their bad luck, however, eventually they will move on and forget about that bad session they had.

Big difference, I would rather my brother to be a bad loser than a gambling addicted person. Just my two sats.  ;)

Because in gambling, gamblers are all losers. But why do we keep gambling even though we know the situation? Because we think we are happy doing this but if we think about earning money from gambling, madness, and blaming would come out. And now more gamblers are chasing their losses which is very unfortunate that won't ever happen. And the worse case is that the more we chase our money back, the more we lose. In the end, we empty our banks and even commit debts, that's how the casinos cheated us.

I would not go as far as saying that all gamblers are losers, to be honest. Even though, most of us end up losing money, there are stories or life changing gains. I am sure you have read or heard about them.  :)

Also, I would not go as far as saying that casinos cheat on us either, at least Stake is explicit enough on the importance of responsible gambling and invite their clients to treat their session as pure entertainment, they have got a dedicated page for it, even.

Sounds fair enough to me, if you asked me.

No one want to be a loser as a gambler that is why we need to understand that there are some casinos that do not want to see us winning everytime that is why they can think of a way to manipulate the system and make us lose as a gambler. It is important for us to know what we are doing or still yet we might become a big loser if we don't act fast.

gambling is meant for cheating that is what makes it a gambling so it is something that people does not understand if you are not being kicked in the morning it is very clear that there is nothing good that will come out from that particular gambling platform so we don't need to think about it otherwise because it is something that we experience every time in gambling session

if you should have such mentality of saying that cheating is meant in gambling that means the plan of people in gambling or coming to gambling is not to be sincere so they have another negative mindset for coming I don't think that that is a good idea for your own explanation so gambling or not to be cheated it must work accordingly because

You must have a very small sense of irony to talk about Casinos making us losers or cheating on us, while you are wearing that specific signature... I mean, you could have come up with something different to say on gambling fairness that does not completely go against the reputation of your signature.  ::)

Also, that is why open source and provably fairness is a thing, for us not to trust, but verify on the result gotten in a gambling session.

They don't have to cheat to beat you at roulette. The odds will beat you.

Not surprising and most people are really that actually saying those contradictory approach and words towards gambling platforms or casinos even they are wearing up gambling based signatures.  :D
For the sake of post count then they would really be saying up something and doesnt mind on connecting out the dots on what they've been advertising and just sticking into the topic for such approach
on which it isnt really that new or surprising anymore.

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How they could possibly able to apply it out specially on offline or physical places? If this video had came out then for sure roullete players on physical casinos that had seen up this method
would definitely be having suspicious eyes if this thing had been applied or not or its really that happening on the casino they are playing.In speaking about online things then
we know that we do have roll verifiers on which we could really check it out on our own or by ourselves.

Exactly, most people ignore the fact that the house already has an edge over the player and even if they don't cheat, they will still win most of the time. Casinos earn all their revenue because of the house edge because even if a gambler manages to win something and if they still keep gambling, they will eventually lose everything back to the house and goes out empty-handed.

Only casinos that have created their platforms for the sole purpose of cheating people might try things like this to get more money from those who are gambling with them, otherwise, they already earn a lot of revenue with their business model being against the players.

Yes, the math is in favor of the casino. It's a shame that the casino is even trying to cheat with an advantage with a decrease in the RTP and Live games

There are definitely some bad losers out there that are really hurt about their big loss and want go give something back to the casino. It doesn't necessarily have to be a gambling addict, it can just be someone who believes in revenge and wants to hurt the casino. Making claims that casino games are rigged come up on forums from time to time, but it's hard to really proof it. Only for someone to lose a few times in a row is no proof of rigged games. What could help would be that former casino employees step up and reveal how they were involved in rigging the systems, but so far I haven't heard about it. The big arguments against fake roulette systems is that the game by itself is already making money for the casino. With the 0 in the wheel the casino has a house edge as there is no more winning strategy.

That's right, but not all people understand it. If they on a single number, they expect to win within 36 spins. And some of them are so "smart" that they they come up with the idea that those spins shouldn't be necessarily made by them. They just stand by and watch, and when a certain number wasn't hit for a long time, they start betting on it expecting it to come up soon. In some cases it does come up and they win, but what they fail to realize is that it's just luck, it's not like their "strategy is working" and it should always be like that.

Fool with a drop in RTP?
Try to explain what kind of cheating casino with lowered RTP do you mean?
So far the RTP that casinos have assigned to slot games is to be able to give returns to gamblers when doing normal spins and no game other than slots has RTP.
The decrease in RTP is done not by the casino but by the slot game provider so maybe here you have a bit of a mistake in assuming that the casino is cheating or manipulating the RTP.
Live games can be manipulated because we don't really know whether the game is fair or not, but we can use trusted sites to avoid things like that.

Indeed it is so, that is why I am saying something, if one enters to play roulette and slot machines, he totally surrenders to the luck he is going to have, otherwise he cannot fight against a system, and it is as you say , no casino owner is going to release the source code or let them review their machines, since these are things that one as a player does not have a choice, the casinos always have their house advantage, which is also difficult to determine, so here is the The player does not have much defense, things can happen in a very Fortuitous way, because just as they can lose a lot, they can also win a lot , that is the advantage that roulette and slot machines have.

It seems a bit asinine to claim that online roulette is always a scam. It doesn't even need to be a scam - the odds are already stacked in the favor of the casino over the long term and it doesn't really matter if you hand all your money over this week or next month, they know eventually if you are a gambler you will leak it over to them. No doubt there is a rare occasion where a casino gets extra greedy and rigs the game, but any "love" game in a setting they completely control can also be rigged - it doesn't need grand explanations, there will be ways it could be rigged that he missed.

The way that the game can be rigged that he explained here is actually one of the easiest ones that can be done - or at least something that he already noticed and studied across a number of casinos. While true that casinos don't really need to do all of these things in order to profit and drain you off of your money, there are times that they need to make money to build their bankroll and pay up other gamblers that are playing on the site. This can usually be done if the casino is on a losing streak lately, and does not have any liquid funds at all.

 :o :o

it is very shocking to hear this kind of comment knowing that in all casinos they have clear TOS that they will not tolerate this kind of things, when you or anyone cheat you are making the casino owner not profit and the casino owner not profit You will have no other option left, you will have to close the casino, so what benefit will you and other people who use cheating have when the casino closes its doors? none. because you imagine it's the only casino that doesn't ask for kyc, the casino doesn't do that thinking it's helping people and then people start abusing the casino and as a consequence the casino goes bankrupt and closes

in other casinos they ask for strict kyc now there is no more kyc-free casino, so I ask myself: is it really worth destroying good casinos and then having shitty casinos? I think it's not worth it just for people to keep doing these kinds of things, people don't think that by doing this they are harming many other people and at the same time they are also harming themselves. I hope that from now on you no longer have this type of thinking that will only lead to you being banned if one day you put it into practice, always respect the TOS of the casinos

Online casinos will always have many advantages, the first advantage is that of the house, the second that it can have is that of the games, in this very specific case they are talking about roulette and the option you have to win or no, if it is a scam or not, if it was a scam, it would have been uncovered for a long time, there are no players who always have huge profits, it is not a scam, it is just that it is somewhat difficult to win, because some people bet very little and they win and when they bet a lot they don't win, and that's not cheating, that's the same sense of randomness that is in roulette , all roulettes for me are the same, the same chances of winning are always there , the trick is Knowing how to Play in the roulette.

House do always win and this had been always the basic concept and the reason why on why gambling platforms flourish and make themselves profitable in the long run. We know that this isnt something that we could really be able to beat up and due to that kind of common nature of a certain human being on which they do believe that they could beat up against the house and make themselves rich with gambling then this is where desperation would kicked in. Never ever intent to beat up the house because it cant just be that possible and thats how it works or the reality of it.

In regarding on the situation been posted about this scammy behavior or set up on roullette then it would really be creating that kind of hesitance specially for physical players who do really
always play roulette. On the time  that you are on such session and find out something suspicious, then how you would really be stopping midway and suing them out?
For sure you wont.

We all know that some games are rigged or, at least, can be rigged although, we as gamblers can't prove it. Some former employees and some games' experts explained how these games work and how they are being exploited to always let the house win. Unfortunately, most of them don't want to talk in public and reveal their identities, which is understandable.
I didn't get what you mean by saying the number zero in roulette is giving unfair advantage to the casino, though!

It is difficult because numbers and statistics have to have a fairly high ingredient, which is randomness, and only this factor can change everything , so there is still no modeling that can give us the real certainty of what what can happen in a casino or in a game, this is something obvious, what we must understand is that in rultea we must surrender to Luck , from there to win is that for me, merely luck  , there is no study that can Give for sure what is the best thing that can happen or the exact Result that happens.

This concept is called variance and like most concepts related to probability theory this is hardly understood by the majority of the people out there, some people expect that if you flip a coin then the results will always be 50/50.

And while this can be true given a large enough sample, the smaller the sample the higher the variance can be, so a person can lose way more often than expected or win more often as well, however the one that wins more often never complains about it, while those which lose more often will complain very loudly about that fact.

A casino doesn't need to do things like that if they want to cheat their players, there are more games than slots in a casino, and people also play dice very often and crash too, if a casino wants to cheat, they can easily do it with these games because these games are not from third-party game providers but are designed and operated by the casino itself, so manipulation within these games should be pretty easy for them.

To stay safe from a casino cheating you, one should only stick to the trusted and reputable casinos, or if they are using a new casino and suspect that they are being cheated, they should simply stop using them and switch to a better platform.

Of course not all online casinos operate ethically. There have been cases of rogue or unlicensed casinos that engage in unfair practices, such as manipulating game resultsin the roulette. That's why it's crucial to choose a reputable and licensed online casino that has a positive track record and good reputation on this forum. Thanks for sharing information as well, it is important that we all try to keep safe.

It's always 50/50, but what they can't grasp is that it doesn't mean they will get 5 heads and 5 tails out of 10 tosses. So, if they get 5 heads, they expect a tail right away or soon, while they can get 20 more heads after that. And when their balance is empty they start complaining about the casino scamming them. Same with roulette, slots and other games of chance. "I bet on 5 in roulette and it hadn't come up withing 100 spins!" It shouldn't, mate. It's not how it works.

They know that getting a license can make them exposed and caught easily once they done something inappropriate so they choose to not get it and fortunately they still can get a customer for this because usually non-licensed casinos are not strict and they never require a KYC. The only downside is the games that can be unfair sometimes.

Even though we picked up a reputable casino in this forum, the live games are still not theirs but it was from the providers. They can not control the results themselves. The only thing that we can do is to avoid those shady game providers next time and we can also report them so that they will get fired out.

I acknowledge your point about unlicensed casinos thriving due to their lax procedures, including the lack of a KYC process. While this might seem appealing to some players, it does indeed come with significant risks, including potentially unfair games.

Your remarks regarding the provenance of live games are entirely accurate. Online casinos often procure these games from third-party providers and have little control over the outcomes.

However, I wish to add a nuance. The onus should not only be on us, the players, to report fraudulent game providers. Regulatory bodies exist for this exact purpose - to safeguard consumers from uncrupulous operators. What's more, casinos themselves need to perform due diligence before selecting game providers, thus ensuring their customers' fair play

I see many scam accusations against many casinos on the scam accusation board. They always create it against the casino they played. The casino defend themselves saying the game provider suggested them the player was cheating or whatever the reason they were blocked or did a misconduct of the player. If the player is good enough to provide evidence to support his accusations then we red tag the casino. If he can not then we just ignore the accusation.

I wondered why don't we talk about the game providers? At least I never saw a case where a game provider was accused. It's like they have the magic key, whatever they say the casino accept it.

The online gaming is always shady to me. I never trusted a computer program that is created without any guarantee to make profit but I had some faith in those online roulette that are live. Watching this video just broke my heart.

This is very similar to dice, when we are playing dice it is like that, I have tried these strategies several times, for example if I play 2x game of 190 plays only 3 have been good, out of 20 or 30 plays sometimes it comes out alone 1 play well or none, the efficiency index is very minimal, in roulette I have only played a few times, but I have sometimes put some strategies that I have read, it seems to me that the strategy that is safest is the one that bets on the colors and the zero, because betting on a number is very difficult, or also when the roulette wheels have the part of the even or odd number, I have also tried them and it works much better for me that way, but not to find a unique strategy.

But of course the winning amount wouldnt really be just as great when you do hit up a specific number but since you do have in mind that putting your bets on odds;even or black;red then expect that winning
amount would be less which is really that a common concept when it comes to roulette games but we know that there are certain players who do really love on playing that certain extent.
About potential scamming on this kind of method which could really be only applied on physical roulettes but into see on what happened on the video on which it is really that not noticeable
but if you are really that get used to see and play roulette stuff on casinos then you might be able to tell up those differences. Speaking about online roulettes? Everything would really be
according to the code which means that playing out with this kind of type is never been that simple whether the game is really that fair or not.

I don't quite agree with this, tbh. You can check the scam accusation board and you will see that most accusation threads are against licensed casinos. Many victims have reported those casinos to their licensor but nothing happened, their licenses are still valid and they are still providing their services.
Unfortunately, having a license doesn't mean much when it comes to protecting customers' rights (talking about Curaçao licenses and the like).

The example you give is very realistic, no one in their right mind will be able to say those things in a physical casino and if they do it clearly it will not go very well for them, the healthiest thing that will happen to someone who yells like that is to be expelled from the casino and they bet it, there is no other way, but there is also the fact that they can receive other types of punishments, that is a danger that sometimes they can do in physical casinos, they have their methods, which does not happen in an online casino that has all audits time and keep each facet of the game so that everything is clear, transparent and clean, what changes here is that things do not go to violence, if there can be debate when a player has well-made arguments.

So, you guys are implying that detecting a fraudster in a physical casino is a lost cause compared to the apparent transparency of online ones, right? Thats a provocative assertion, wouldn't you say? But suppose one uncovers a scam? Should they suppress their apprehension, or rally for fairness? Its controversial, isnt it?

True, asserting malpractice can be perilous and may boomerang. But should that curb our outcry? Seems slightly drastic, wouldnt you say? Lets not forget, casinos, be it online or physical, are under various regulations. Is the purported 'risk' of challenging brick-and-mortar casinos somewhat amplified? Possibly. Yet, vigilance is always the safest bet, agreed?

Detecting a scam is another thing and proving is another, you might see something unusual happening in a physical casino but you can barely prove it to someone who has the authority to take some action against the casino, because you can barely be able to get some proof that you can present when you try to explain what is happening in the casino to the person you think will take some action against them.

When you see a casino doing something that isn't normal in an online platform, you can simply spread the word in all the forums and places where you can so that people avoid using that platform, but it is not as easy as that when it comes to physical casinos.

All strategies for roulette game are equal, absolutely everyone of them has the same value. If you see something like "The Best Roulette Strategies" on the web, you can read the info and follow the advises, or you can just ignore it, it doesn't matter, the result will be the same: if you are lucky - you will win, and if luck isn't on your side - you'll lose.

I can't say that the owners of the RouletteMan channel presented in the OP are scammers because I don't see they are scamming anyone for personal profit, but I can definitely say they are your time wasters. Saying that one Roulette Strategy is better than another is basically saying nonsense, and that's what they are doing on their channel with 34K unfortunate subscribers.

If you're right about that, what happens is that you can't do more strategies, the game is completely round, there is no room for more, unless certain things are Reduced or increased in roulette , Numbers decrease, colors increase, but the efficiency index in roulette is quite difficult to achieve, I have read many times, and what Differs is that the players change the amount of their bets in some plays and that is what guarantees that you lose or win more, For those who increase money at the right time, it is obvious that they have a Maximum net profit If I do something like this and Pray Everything and earn more, I would Stay put and not bet more.

That's the case with all the channels that try to teach people how to gamble and how to use different strategies, because we all know that there is absolutely no strategy that can maximize one's chances of winning and minimize the losses but strategies tend to make people lose more money especially if they involve increasing the initial bet size after every loss like martingale.

I always advise people not to use any strategies in gambling because that won't make a difference at all, it's better to simply stick to your betting method and you may win something but if you try to use a strategy to try and win more or recover the losses, that will cost you more in the long run.

That's exactly what happens when you follow a strategy: you lose or win more. That's it. It totally depends on luck. So, you can follow any strategy you want if that makes your experience more entertaining, but you shouldn't think that your strategy is effective if you won couple of times following it. You were just lucky, that's all.

Yes, I don't doubt it, that's pure luck, I like to read a lot about game strategies, because when I'm playing sometimes I don't know what to do at a certain moment and if there is a good strategy, then it is feasible to apply it because you have another way of playing and doing things well, if they work or not, that depends on how lucky you are , if we have things in common with other players it is that a strategy works well for some but not for others, that It is normal, I do not think that if a strategy works for 1 or for a group , it is just a way of seeing things as they are , this in roulette is pure luck.

The casino and gambling industry never ceases to amaze. How many different techniques do I know, how many rumors have I heard about how casino owners cheat, but you told me something new. I readily believe that this is true. After all, the casino will definitely do everything to tilt the odds in its favor. And they necessarily have laboratories and scientists who have studied how to control the ball imperceptibly.  Knowing the slip, properties and other properties of materials. It would seem that this is just a game, but if a billionaire comes in and costs 500 thousand dollars for red, then the casino will definitely not accept the chances of 50-50. And if we talk about online casinos, then everything is much simpler there.

Testing out new strategies that you have learned recently is quite interesting because if we've known some methods then we could really think that it would really be giving out advantage and this is where most people been thinking but the truth is that we should really make use of these strategies for prolonging our gambling sessions and not really that believing that we could really take advantage against the house or something.
Now that we have seen this roulette type of rigging those rolls then we do have at least the idea about those probabilities which it could be seen on some casinos but its impossible that they would really be doing this publicly because once been caught then their business is over.

I just want to emphasize that there is a difference between a strategy in poker and a strategy in a purely luck-based game like roulette. With the former it makes perfect sense, and with the latter it makes no sense at all.

Yes, you can have fun with "testing out" new strategies for roulette game, but you should understand that whether you win or not totally depends on luck. And that's why I'm saying that those who are teaching you a winning strategy in roulette are just wasting your time.

I believe that someone who manipulates systems or makes the vulnerabilities of a physical or online casino work in their favor is a clear trap, and can be taken as a scam, and in any scam, nothing should be given a chance, it should be reported. somehow, something that is well defined and above all that there is no type of retaliation for that person, when talking about scams you should never support the practice, because it is stealing, and stealing will never be something that is good, no no no matter how you look at it, a scam is taking money that does not belong to the person, from a casino to a player or from a player to a casino, if you see that offense there should be no gap.

Now the Strategies that are based on roulettes, slots is something very random , it Cannot be determined if things when it comes to luck have to do with strategies, so we could emphasize that there are no strategies for a roulette wheel that work, it can be that it works at a certain moment, but that does not mean that you have to do it all the time to force it to work, because if we do something like that our money vanishes.

When I play roulette, there are no patterns, I have played a lot using patterns, both colors, even or odd numbers, and it is difficult for them to follow an order, because when one is completely sure that what is predicted will come out , it does not come out This is normal, so there are many roulette strategies , you have to use them all to see what Works at a certain Time.

This is very important for any player to see no patterns when playing roulette. Because there can be no patterns, right? All "patterns" that we see playing any game purely based on luck is just a product of our imagination. They are unlucky people those who invented a strategy for roulette and accidentally it worked couple of times. The poor guys think their strategy actually works, and then they lose everything, while betting in hopes that it will work again.

I see the discussion has somewhat swerved from OP's original post. My only comment on that is, proof or you're talking shit, and casino's don't need to cheat as house edge is already in their favour, and gambler fallacy plus other common behaviours actually aid the house edge, the only thing they're exposed to is variance, so they already have systems in place to prevent overexposure.

It's bad business to cheat, and other casinos would love to expose you, so if the guy's comment has any value, my question is why he hasn't made a lot of money exposing it.

That said, the best bet is to know who audits the casino's RNG. And then choose to trust that audit's methods.

perhaps the first problem is why someone is complaining about a roulette. I mean, even if it works ethically as intended, it is still a bad idea that is surely going to make you loose, and that is with a proper algo, proper ranomness, etc... It does not take much to rig and it does not either take much more to think that you have been scammed and therefore there is plenty of argument for the wrong reasons.

You got a point. Reputable and big casinos don't have to cheat on roulette knowing that they will win at the end of day. Even on real roulette, I don't think that casino's will cheat because they can be exposed easily and it can make their casino go bankrupt rapidly if they caught red handed. Though not sll casino is fair to their players especially those who are on the verge of bankrupcy and the one who are just starting. To be safe, it would be better for us to just stick on reputable casinos whether it's physical or online casino.

Lately I've been studying the various defeats of several games that I've played including Roulette.
If you think carefully about the losses that you get, it doesn't mean that the provider is cheating or deceiving gamblers, but indeed because in all casino games it's difficult to win regularly and all games have been designed in such a way that gamblers not get wins in every game session.
Basically gambling only gives gamblers the opportunity to lose some money so if we decide to gamble, we must be prepared for the consequences of losing the amount we bet.

But this is just an assumption from experience that I have learned and of course the opinion of every gambler will be different, not all of them will have the same thoughts as me.

The casino doesn't need to deceive us because as we know that the casino will win in the end even though some gamblers can win. But more gamblers will lose and the money will go to the casinos, which means the casinos will win.

But casinos can cheat like that because we don't know if it's right or wrong. We can only see the video but it's hard for us to check directly because the casino will ask, do we want to play or do we want to check the system?

Those who created these games were obviously not idiots they would design games that would work based on patterns so that gamblers can identify those patterns and then win significantly high amounts of money using those patterns. Of course, there are no patterns whether it's about roulette or any other gambling game, it's just our mind that tells us that there is a pattern and you should act accordingly but in reality, there is nothing like that.

I know that there are some people who think they are too smart for the casinos to handle so they keep looking for patterns and other stuff that they can use to win more bets, and when a few of their bets actually work, they become overconfident and eventually lose everything only because of their patterns.

I know this, I have never seen if a person or expert player has exposed to a casino if they have cheated or not and the way in which they unmasked it, because in something if there is absolutely reason, how to make a casino recognize that they did trap? Otherwise yes, the casinos can expose when a player cheats, but when a casino? as? They are the ones with the records, videos, seeds, everything, so what way is there to prove that someone did not cheat ? And how many times have we been Victims of a Casino if such a thing Exists ? Those are the things I want to see here.

We will never if the casino cheats on us or other players. But some people deliberately find out if the casino is cheating, especially people who often experience losing from casinos so they want to make sure everything is. And a trusted casino will not cheat its members because it involves the casino's reputation so it can reduce its credibility, it will decrease and eventually, its users will abandon it. Therefore, a trusted casino will always maintain its reputation; if there are problems or complaints from its members, the casino will immediately solve them.

If we talk about getting caught, I don't think that an old casino with an experienced team and staff will get caught for cheating the gamblers because they will probably have enough experience about everything within the casino and they can easily manage to do things that no one would ever notice since there is already so much noise and so many people that no one would notice every small detail about the game or what is happening in or around the game.

I believe newer and bankrupted casinos can be more vulnerable to this, if they try and cheat their gamblers, knowing there are fewer players and no one would notice but they will eventually get nervous and give it away because the team wouldn't be as experienced as the other restaurants around.

You're putting the cart before the horse. An old casino with an experienced team etc wouldn't need to cheat in the first place.

As explained above, you've already got house edge. And in offline casinos, it's way, way higher than what we're used to with crypto PF games (man I really am spoilt honestly by dice especially).

You're thinking small. And new/bankrupted casinos yeah, would have to think small to cheat.

I remember when I only started to play dice online, I used to "see" those patterns too. For example, I "noticed" that if you hit something above 100, something below 1.00 will follow soon. Not like right away, but within 10 bets for sure. So, I started using that "knowledge", and it "worked" most of the time at first. Then, of course, it didn't work one day and I lost all my balance during that day. The good part was that I didn't deposit more after losing it, and that my balance was only around $20. It was still painful, but it was bearable. Don't experiment with your strategies, guys, having big balances. Try them out, if it makes you entertained, but don't risk big money with that.

Roulette is like dice in the sense that the previous outcomes don't affect the following ones in the slightest. And yet I personally knew a guy who was taking notes of which numbers hadn't show up for a long time, and then betting on those numbers.

When I was in the U I always went with a friend who was also very good at math and logic, we played roulette a lot, and sometimes each one of us learned patterns and we bet on what would come out, sometimes we won, other times we didn't, but we realized that the patterns didn't work and that was enough to keep betting with even or odd numbers and colors, what we got was sometimes zero, which was a variable we couldn't control, most of the time we went around 5-6 in the afternoon, because at that time many people came to play and it was ideal to be at roulette, we knew that we had more chances of winning when they were full at roulette.

Of course, we had already established a time to play because it was more feasible to win, at that time we thought it was easier to win when there were many people playing roulette, I remember very well that at 6pm was when many gamblers arrived, and there were even women who were somewhat mature, very beautiful with a lot of money to bet, sometimes I cannot deny that we made the same bets as others, because we felt that they could be lucky , almost all of the roulette was bet, it was impossible for someone I didn't win there, that's why we liked it , however I would like that in a casino I could have that option, where roulette was and that several people could bet at the same time and live, could it be that the chances of winning for us as players increase?

Not really that ideal on making yourself that too mindful about making up those patterns or on whatever things you had noticed out because everything is really that randomly generated with those codes. You might be

able to have those mathematical approach and having those observations but it wont really be giving out assurance that it would really be affecting out those results effectively on next rolls.
This is why it would be that good if you do just test out on something not really that risking your huge money or capital or bankroll on doing gambling if you are really that eager on testing a certain strategy.
Luck based would be always luck based, you might be able to make out some patterns but those wont really be that precise for you to rely and push through.

Now that these videos had been surfacing out but doesnt mean that there would casinos been caught on doing this cheating or set up because its impossible that it wont really be able to
be noticed by someone on this case.

That's right, because if we pay attention to how Roulette works, it is random, so it's not easy to guess which number will be where the ball stops spinning.
Maybe memorizing numbers that rarely come out can be the best way to get a win. It's just that when you're not lucky, those numbers also don't guarantee you can come out as a winner.

If playing Roulette I now prefers to bet on color because there are only two choices between black and red.

Just right on point. I mean every gambling opportunity is unique that the outcome of the last bet won't affect the next unless there's anomaly is happening behind. Betting in color instead of numbers would be a smart move. That just simply putting higher probability becasue you have 50-50 of chance winning, but i believe some online casinos don't have that kind of offer (on my own experience).

So unless you're lucky every time you will win, you have to had a risk management and a worthy risk reward to compensate for the losses all through out the series of your bets.

Memorizing numbers in Roulette does not help either because I don't think that Roulette produces the numbers based on any sequence. They are just random numbers and there is no pattern behind them. Hence even if you keep track of the last few hits, it's impossible to guess the future number at the Roulette.

Also, my take on Roulette dice and other gambling games is that these are luck-based games only and even if the good gambling sites do not scam us, it's still difficult to beat the house. In case they are scamming in the backend, it then becomes impossible to win.

a few days ago I saw a guy on youtube complaining that he wasn't hitting the roulette wheel and that he needed to create some kind of discipline or bankroll management to see if he was going to be successful, I confess that I stopped watching what I intended to watch and was paying attention to what he was talking because honestly I didn't see any sense in anything he was saying, because in my opinion games like roulette are games that simply depend on luck, no matter what people do at the end of the day people are going to lose money at roulette

but even so, I saw the guy talking about math, strategy, bankroll management, I just kept thinking: how is it possible that this guy doesn't realize that he won't win constantly and that this game should only be seen as fun, nothing more. so after I finished the video, I understood that either he was doing it to get views or he really believes what he's talking about and he's addicted to gambling, probably both options is what's going on with him, and no doubt that he It's not unique, many people think that they can create strategies in gambling that depend on luck.

When I play roulette, I don't even realize the numbers that fall, my strategies are many, colors are the strategy that I see as the safest, of course I always see that there is a lot of advantage for the house, because if the other color falls or if The 0 starts because my bet is lost , so this will always be and will always be a risk for everything, when I play roulette I rarely bet on the numbers, because there are many, and it is difficult to hit one, and when for good luck I give luck to someone because I don't have the profit I want, so for me it's not as striking as I thought, that's why things in roulette seem more attractive that way Because of the Colors , it's safer for me.

I've seen a lot of people doing the same thing, they either play on colors or columns because there aren't a lot of choices among them, and you have more chances of winning this way, though whether you will win or lose totally depends on your luck and not on the chances or percentages or anything, but placing bets on numbers in a roulette table is just like wasting your money, it is just better if you simply play in a slot machine and you might win something.

And if a casino, as said by the OP, is cheating over the roulette table, there is absolutely no chance for a gambler to win anything from it, especially if someone is betting high very high amounts because the management will never let the numbers come that the high rollers are betting on.

Well, there are many options that are safer in roulette, for example, as you say, the color option is the one that the sperosnas play the most, the other option is that they can be seen as a whole when betting with zero and zero-zero For me, they are options that hardly come out and when they do come out they make the bettor earn a lot of money, because the player of zero or zero zero always takes into consideration that it is a number that does not come out and that the possibility of others knocks him down, so the casnio in this part things are always more given to luck,

When I started in the physical casinos, the traditional ones where there are always these types of machines, I used a particular number, I learned all the combinations, I went with a friend who looked at the sequence of even numbers and odd numbers, according to That's why we made the bets and each one bet something that if one lost, the other won, this to cover the gains and losses well, and what always threw us off was the option of zero, zero-zero, in that order of ideas because we appealed to changing bets only to color and zero, because it was safer because the chances of losing were always much more reduced, and the number that never came up was black 17, 23 and that was a very good option for us bet, but those numbers were always very good for us to consider good options to win.

But roulette wheels have their secrets, usually when I went to the casino, I used to bet a lot when the whole roulette wheel was filled with people playing, because there it was the only option to win or to win as long as I know the other option,  because there it is they had to have winners, otherwise I think they also bet a lot on zero , and zero-zero, that's why when things are about chance and numbers we, as good players, have to reduce the chances of losing a lot, if we play roulette and We bet only on the numbers, it's like giving money there , but if we bet by zones, or by colors , it Covers more.

Every chance of winning in gambling depends on the type of game itself because it's true that every opportunity in casino games is quite unique and different.
I studied the game of Roulette for a long time and the game of Roulette that is available at any casino also seems to have color bet options, some of the casinos that I use have similarities in every betting option in the game of Roulette, it's just possible when you play Roulette extreme, I'm sure you will not leave the number betting option as there is a sizable multiplier within some of those numbers.

This must always be owned so that we as gamblers don't easily assume that the provider or the casino has manipulated us when we lose.

Well, in the style of playing roulette, slots, or any other casino game, one has a unique style to play, some of us like to bet on colors, others on numbers, others on zero or zero-zero, the options are varied. There are strategies that can be applied only to roulette wheels, there are roulette options that are divided into betting to win by number zones that is also valid, I have not seen the current roulette wheels but I imagine that they should also have that option that roulette wheels bring In traditional land-based casinos, when you bet on a special number, it is difficult for it to happen, since there are many numbers. We as players can sometimes bet by zone, by color, because it increases the probability of winning, and it is not bad. , roulette has multiple ways to win, personally I always bet on the zones, or colors, there I play for a long time with those options, of course sometimes one tries to guess what the pattern is and places bets Sometimes, if they go well, otherwise it's time to retire, because this roulette thing also depends a lot on the luck of the person and it is something that one must take into account.

Now with all that there is in the new roulettes because the chances of winning are also many, I have seen some good articles about the roulettes, the ways to play and some tips, and even though the roulette depends only on the pure luck of the person it is It is possible to win, the articles that I like to read a lot are those of bitcasino.io which, as part of Karl, are really very educational, and it makes many people who know that roulette has many tricks, because you can extract tricks from there, and people may ask themselves, but how? if roulette is standard and will always have its way to beat the players? And yes, if there are ways to play, maintaining a particular strategy and keeping calm, it is possible for things to turn out the way you want, you should only apply the strategies in order, and despite the fact that the strategies are things that many do not believe, if possible.

For me, in something like this which a roullette game then i dont really make myself that believe to have those kind of strategies on which it could really be applied or what.It all matters with luck and i dont believe that

any strategies could be something that be effective. If ever there would be casinos on having that kind of cheating application then it would really be that impossible that it would be able to bypass those gamblers eyes
knowing those balls are really that going outside anytime that it do landed on a certain number or color which basing up on the video then it is really that odd on having that kind of movement. This is something
that would be impossible to be applied specially on physical casinos but cant really be able to deny that if you are just playing out without haviing those kind of suspicions on how it moves and just let those
things roll then you are really that been rigged.

Its true somewhat that there would really be different variations in terms of gameplays whether choosing up a number,color or zero. It would really be varying on how you would really be that
enjoying the game. If ever this way of rigging up the game had come out then for sure those roullette players would really be skeptical and might really be checking this out physically. lol

Roulette is not a game of pure chance or pure strategy. What if we ignore the strategic element altogether? That sort of thinking, however, prevents the majority from experiencing true gaming success. Let's be honest when it comes to these purported "cheating applications." No respectable casino would jeopardize its entire reputation due to some shoddy rigging scheme that even a layperson can spot. The upscale businesses? They place a higher value on their reputation than the transient gains from manipulative games. Count on me for that

Successful gamblers, the truly legendary ones, they're rare. Their skill? It requires not just good fortune but also a thorough knowledge of the game's nuances and nuanced rhythms. They deserve worship not only for their abilities but also for having the guts to play the odds and win. They say the house always wins, but on rare occasions a player with the appropriate combination of cunning, cunning, and daring can flip the tables. Are you capable of succeeding?

Of course, the strategies are something that they have for the player to educate himself in some way, also a casino that pays all that attention so that its players can concentrate on the fact that there are some strategies so that they can win is not bad, I personally I have read many roulette strategies, there are many, but each one reads enough, the strategies are basically reduced to the same thing, because they are the same people with different ways of explaining the strategies, there comes a time when each text, or each form filled out of information points to the same thing, but of course, what must be taken into consideration here is that the main motive of roulette is not deviated, which is that it is maintained in a good atmosphere of fun, that the person bets and leaves everything in the hands of luck, but sometimes things need Technical knowledge that others have been able to extract, those are things that can help, because I say it as a player, when I play roulette, sometimes we play uncontrollably and the money It decreases, but in those Moments we don't care because we are playing , we are feeling some Adrenaline fun, and many other things.

If a person starts looking for and using some of the strategies that they have read, it does not guarantee that they can win , but it does not guarantee that they can lose either , a strategy can serve or be very useful if they are lucky in that sense, but when they run out of Using the strategies yourself and remembering the ones you have read is something else, because basically when things are about how to improve and if that helps to preserve or earn more money , well, why not do it ? Even though slot machines and roulette wheels will always point to things that have to do with luck, it is something that can be done, but as I said, these are just strategies, if they are applied at the right moment, if you can win , that's It is what should be cleared up, and I think that All games within the casino Work like this.

I've seen a lot of people betting on columns because they are also provide good multipliers if the ball stops at one of the numbers that fall under the column that you have made your bet on. Colors are one of the most common betting options for everyone in a roulette because there are more chances for a gambler to get a win if they are betting on one of the two colors, red and black, instead of betting on numbers, number ranges and other stuff.

However, if you are gambling on a platform or in a land-based casino that has its roulette wheel rigged and they are manipulating the results, it will be difficult for you to get a win if you are betting on options where there are large amounts of bets placed already because they won't let that win.

Roulette is sick 😫, I have a friend who always win this game and he got a lot of money and even get married with the money he got, I was so happy for him but I thought he quit, what happened after was a big mistake of his, he made a fortune he should have quit, instead he went back because he believed in his strategy, the same strategy he use to win many times before, the truth is casinos also master your strategy, they will wait patiently but if you are not the type that knows when to quit you will lose everything.

This my friend lost everything back to casino, he even sold some of his things, though when he was doing all this I was not informed, I would have tried to stop him, now he is broke and back to working in a office from 9 am to 5 pm everyday, he is lucky that his woman still stay by him after everything crumbles.

Even if it's online casino game or not there is always a way, but I heard the offline roulette machines are easily rigged,  since almost all online casinos use software providers it could be harder, the highest they do is block or ban you from gambling on their casino, because you won too much.

Casino won’t adjust to any strategy of the player especially on game like roulette since it’s a pure random game. It’s a 50-50 chance game if he bet on colors or odd/even and the risk grows based on his bet type choice. His strategy simply works the early times he try due to his luck but a same strategy will not work consistently since gambling is a game chance.

He can lose the same amount of his winning statistically wise due to the winning percentage rate and you can add the house edge that gives casino slight advantage in long run so your friend will really based on math if he continue playing without the adjustment of casino to his strategy

First of all, Roulette is not scam or sick. It is a game where one may lose or win, purely dependent upon luck. I would call your friend did misunderstand things as he thought he had the strategy of winning all of the roulette's games which is not possible. Even for a moment, think that he really has such a strategy, which will make him win all the games, even then don't he knew that casino will soon identify this and he won't remain profitable always.

It's always better to take your winning from gambling, out of the gambling so you may enjoy that money because risking the money again in gambling, does not guarantee another win.

Yes, what you say is very true, however there is something very special that always results in this type of case, only players who play roulette and know that they have done something very well can easily make a difference when they have a lot of money to bet. then a person who has a lot of money, well, can make bets that a person who has low-medium economic factors cannot do and sometimes that type of person when they take a risk of that style of betting big, well, they mostly lose, Etnonces the occasions or the possibilities are not the same as a very large player has, that is to say, they have a lot of money.

I am a great lover of strategies, and I do believe in strategies, because if we play in a linear way, and in a single routine, in a single pattern, things will not work out, on the contrary, we will lose and lose more and more to continue. Well, the game will have read our way of playing, which is not a very good thing, because the chances of winning are reduced and you cannot win like that.

I have tried on many occasions, especially when I was a novice, to always apply the same strategy, and my results were the sam e, I couldn't do anything, because I lost, so now things are different, there are strategies that simply with the single option of silvering them, they can make you win, of course I'm not saying that the Strategies will Always work when they are applied, no, it's that people have different ways of playing and Winning , because what we are looking for is to be able to make a difference, to win, or to do something different to see if I could get benefits, so the strategies are not bad, they have to be used and I know that when a strategy is Applied it can work and make Money , and depending on the bet pes you can earn a lot or a little money, then That is where the player's Secret is, the successful player knows many Strategies , but he is not saying them , so they are things that must be taken into consideration.

Basing up on the video then its clearly showing that those are typical casino roulette game which it is really that showing that it could be possibly be applied such rigging of games but i dont really believe that casinos

would really be trying out to rig up their games or roulette specially on a casino where eyes are really that observant for any possible rigging or odd kind of behavior on which once its been proven
then for sure it would really be over on your business since you would really be sued out on the cheating that you've been doing. I dont know if there are casinos that had been caught on such cheating or
really just that the video given on OP is really just trying to experiment about the possibilities but havent actually been applied or just no one had really just caught? ;D

Just like been said that rigging up games could be possible but thinking up sensibly for these type of businesses then for sure it would really be that so risky for their part on having that kind of application
because once caught then you do know on whats next. lol

Hmm, after all the wins, your friend went back to level 1, a stage where he passed ages ago. And all I have to say is that now your friend knows how bad or hard gambling can be sometimes and I believe he has learnt his lessons.

Since your friend didn't tell you before he rollover his bet, how can you tell if he is not planning another strategy for his gambling habits? Because since he sold some of his personal things to gamble, he can not stop thinking about them, so he will plan to go try again with a new pattern if he can get back what he lost.
From what you have said so far, I believe that his former gambling strategy has made him a gambling addict and I know one day your friend will go back to gambling with his new strategy, because now that he knows that the former one isn't working for him anymore, he will be thinking of another one.
Anyway, I am new to the gambling world and I have never bet on roulette before, but since I am now aware of how it can be trickish, I will not bet on it on either an online or offline, just for safety.

This story proves what have been said which is there is no strategy that can let you win forever. You simply can't beat the house.
Your friend made a fortune at the beginning not because his strategy works but because he was lucky.
When you say the casino will wait patiently you make it sound like there is something phishy going on. That's not the case. It's just that casino games are designed to make you lose on the long run.
Your friend should consider himself lucky because he found a full time job to help him support his family.

If we talk about there is no strategy that really guarantees that a gambler can win consistently I agree because there is no effective strategy that can always beat the house edge even a professional gambler will definitely not believe that a strategy can win roulette consistently unless there is one luck factor in favor.

From this story we can all learn that maybe someone can win big several times but in the future the house edge will definitely stop the winnings and instead take everything that has been deposited for gambling, this is a business and no one can stop how the casino or gambling sites in generating profits.

One more thing is that it is very silly to experience defeat and then say that the casino has cheated because we have to realize that casinos are created for business and we come to spend money and have fun even though there is an opportunity to make a small profit that maybe at another time we can take it Again.
It is indeed better to work part time to make sure money than to hope for winnings from gambling.

When I dig more into your insights on gambling tactics, it fascinates me how some people continue to look for the elusive "always-win" technique. Houses are structurally constructed to win, literally. If mathematics and a house edge interacted in any way, it would presumably involve mathematics sighing deeply

But isn't it odd that even pro gamblers continue to play despite being aware of the inherent house advantage? It almost seems as though the temptation of that infrequent win is too attractive. When it comes to blaming casinos for losses, I have no idea. After all, winning was not the basis for the construction of casinos. It's similar to comparing clouds to bricks since one can just vanish. Part-time job does offer a tangibility that gambling cannot

House edge is just a minimal advantage especially if you have a huge bankroll and play casino games in discipline manner. I doubt that there’s a pro gambler on a casino based on luck since everyone here is just relying on luck to win and not through skills except for some games that is skill based game.

I only want to say that you can actually against the casino if you are lucky since house edge is just a minimal percentage which you can overcome when you are on luck streak. Most of the time, Players always lose to the casino due to limited bankroll and max bet restrictions that will leave you no choice to recover your losses when you are already playing long due to house edge accumulation.

Bro, don't ever play and try the tricks they show other users about Roulette gambling, it's really nonsense, I often watch live Roulette on YouTube, but I just watched, never imitated their silly tricks, misleading Roulette traps, honestly I am one of those who love gambling in the game of Roulette, only luck really works in the game of Roulette.

As far as I know, live Roulette videos are shown on YouTube, in general there is a Roulette game application, anyone who sees it will tell you to download the application, Don't ever try to download the game application, it will end in bad luck and loss, so watching live Roulette videos is fine but don't ever try to download the application on YouTube, if you don't want to lose.

Remember YouTube, is currently a den for online game fraudsters with the tricks they play, as if it were genuine and real, the facts are all bullshit.

A casino will always have the advantage to win, there is no need to fight against that, in the long term the casino will achieve its goal of winning more than the player, what every player should do is when winning, do not despair, withdraw and leave with the winnings that he obtained, it is proven that the person who continues playing and playing loses what he won and more, there is no other way, everything works like that, that is a matter of responsibility of knowing how he can perform at the moment he wins or If I lose, when I have consecutive losses I don't play anymore, I know that the casino or my luck is not good, so I prefer to go another day where I am in a different environment , that has Worked for me , I prefer to lose a little bit of money than to lose a lot of money.

The casino house edge is the reason why a casino will win in the long run.  So as a player, we should not let our gambling session take too long.  We should stop when we are winning and comeback again another day.  This way we are able to maximize our bankroll in terms of how long it will last.

With regard to live roulette scamming us, I do not think that the majority are doing this kind of cheat. I believe only a few shady casinos do this kind of cheating.

Your friend didn't have discipline and self-control, and that is what made him reach where he is right now after reaching the peak. A disciplined and responsible gambler would never go back to gambling with everything they have won previously, especially if it's enough money to have an influence on your life. Even if you are addicted to gambling and can't leave it, you shouldn't gamble everything away and become broke, that's carelessness at its peak.

He should have known that there is absolutely no strategy that can make you keep winning forever because at the end of the day, it's gambling, and we all know that casinos are not created to make us rich but they are created to make their creators rich with our money, but if we get lucky and manage to get some wealth through it, we should be wise about how we should use that money.

@serjent05, you have said your own point and your point is good and it is also hard to take. It can only take a person who is so disciplined to do what you just said, it can be easy to talk but hard to keep. Why? Because in gambling there is what they call greed. If you are winning, you can't stop playing until you have started losing the game. As a wise person, immediately you have lost once or twice you can quit for that day, but for those who are greedy at gambling, if they lose 5 times they will not quit because they will want to get back the money that they have lost already and this issue is what is making gambling look like it is hard.
A regular gambler can not keep to the idea you said earlier because the gambler might be thinking of how to get back the money he has lost yesterday and also the once he has lost today already.

Sometimes it is difficult to keep control of this, there is talk about keeping control when you win, but how do you stop while you are winning in the game? How to stop if you are betting a lot of money? how to know that? That's like when the bitcoin market starts to rise and higher and we don't know what its ATH will be, because we can say that it will reach $100k and if everything is sold, it's good, but if the price increases to $150k we have stopped earning a lot , then it is difficult, although there are some techniques, to know to what point you can stop and leave things there, then those techniques in the game could be called intuition and leave things there, not continue playing and leave the game with a good profits.

So sometimes I don't blame some players for winning and winning and continuing to win, but you have to buy, at least with a profit. Well, it's hard to stop when you don't have any money, that is, you've spent everything and you can't. do nothing more, that is what we should think about before anything, for that reason I have always said greed in a person should not exist, there should not be such feelings because it leads to failure, if the desire to win, because we all have that desire when we go to a casino, we always enter with the hope of making a lot of money, and it is normal that we never think that we are going to lose, but in a touch of luck in a casino, the best thing is to win and repeat it once and for all, because there are cases where people have won a lot and then lose absolutely everything and more, by trying to chase those losses and recover what has been lost, so based on this I could say that things can be measured That way, although like all of us have different personalities, you can't judge people who do want to continue playing, doing things they haven't dreamed of, but it's up to them whether they lose or not.

I would consider the question of how to stop playing if you start winning even the most important for a player who has at least begun to take his game responsibly.  And such a player has already outgrown the stage of crazy chaotic bets without any strategy in games where he is guaranteed to lose everything he could afford to lose. 

I would probably strictly follow the rule of stopping the game if your winnings were, for example, 10-15% of what you bet.  You will say this is too little, this is just ridiculous.  But I will contradict you.  And I’ll give an example with bank deposits, when the profit is only ~ 4% per year.  And in the game you received, for example, 10% in one day.  This is the idea that millions of people earn so little on bank deposits, and you earned so much in comparison with them.  It is precisely the awareness of this fact that will make it easier for you to stop playing.  Because e it’s almost certain that the only thing that will happen next is losing.  But of course you must have a strong   will to strictly follow such a rule.
 I'm not insisting that I'm right.  But this is probably the best thing to do when dealing with gambling.

For the fact that no one know the exact point to hit the price right,  it make everyone to remain speculative in both our guess about the market or a game that we have predicted,  since games and trading outcome are almost the same it is now important for us to out those in place to better our understanding of the subject matters as regsrds to when the right time to struck the beans,  because not being literally unanticipated makes tou vulnerable to all form of atrcks from the market.

Chasing a winning is one of the attribute of not having a limit control in gambling and at the same time it becomes more real when the odds will turn against you and you start losing,  will you continue to chase the loss with the same energy you used to chase the winning.

Your ceiling is a win of 10% to 15%. Although some people might admire the discipline, I find it to be almost funny. Banks offer a low interest rate because they are being conservative and not taking a chance by spinning the roulette wheel. You ? You're launching yourself into an unpredictable place. I think it's foolish to compare bank deposits and gains from gambling

Real strategy involves not only knowing when to stop, but also understand why you should stop. It's not about bank percentages. It has to do with the game, your mental state, and the basic basis of probability. Limiting your winnings can be smart, but only if it's supported by a deep understanding and not just because it seems "good" in comparison to a bank's return

I'm sure there are some shady places where this kind of tech is implemented to scam people but the reality is the casino doesn't need to scam anyone.

Roulette is a game of chance where the odds favour the casino, why would any reputable provider risk their customers loyalty in favour of greed and law breaking when they already have the advantage.

Even if it's not about greed, people who are addicted to gambling or people who are gambling only to earn money from it will find it difficult to stop when they have already lost some money because they will not be able to let that go as their primary motive is to earn money through gambling and if they are losing some money every day, that is not going to work for their strategy and that is the reason why strive to recover the money they have lost in that session.

However, they don't realize that once they start chasing their losses, they will start losing more because it's gambling and not a way for someone to earn money at will and if that could work that way, I'm pretty sure that every gambler in the world would have been ultra-rich by now.

Well, a popular and reputable casino doesn't need to do anything like that since they already have a lot of gamblers and they know that they will get enough revenue to run their business without any issues. However, if a casino doesn't have any reputation and doesn't get a lot of gamblers, they might think of doing unethical things like that to maximize their earnings and keep looting their gamblers out of their money as long as they are not getting caught.

This is why it's much better for gamblers to use casino platforms that are already popular and have a good reputation within the gambling community because they have never scammed anyone or stolen their money by cheating and manipulating the results in games like roulette and others.

Well, there are many ways in which we can Interpret things, and yes, it is true about the bank example, of everything that can be lost and Gained , with respect to the fact that one Moment you can make 10% because it is something Difficult to compete with, I don't Know how people can sometimes have control over that , however we could think About the Following , if a Person who plays Roulette knows that they should not gamble too much , or more than they should, then the things of a game Like roulette, they are very much given to Luck, it is true that when we win it is difficult not to get excited, because we automatically tell ourselves that now we have this even though I started with this, and that is how Little by little we are making a idea within the game that since we made that profit we Can double it , and that is when we will have those small goals and it can ruin Everything, then the Strategies can be relevant when we do them using the Responsibility and especially the part of having good Management of Risks, so as not to Regret Spending a lot of money , or that We lost a lot of Money.

In a roulette there is a sea of possibilities. I cannot deny that roulette is the first game I played when I entered a physical casino , and the truth is that it seemed great to me, very Fascinating, but I saw that to win with Respect to the numbers It was Something very difficult , because I would see that for it to come out it is a special number because things go well or badly, but it is difficult for me to hit a number, I remember very well that I always bet on black 17 and 23 , those numbers almost did not fall, and the moment I stopped betting on those numbers because they fell , people sometimes thought that the system was ready to make me Lose, Of Course it was my start in the casinos, it was something I could think About , However I realized other types of way to win , with the colors, although with the colors you didn't win the same , but it was more Constant to Do.