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Talking with someone that is Muslim yesterday, it was suggested to me that many Muslims around the world might be using crypto to circumvent the strict treatment of gambling in predominantly Muslim countries.

It was an interesting concept to consider that since crypto can be used to conceal your spending, it is probably also used by people who want to gamble to avoid the consequences based on religious practices.

But the more interesting side of this is that some probably interpret gambling with crypto as permissible under religious rules. Not exactly 100% approved let's say but not explicitly forbidden either.

So what do you think about this? Does gambling with crypto mean that laws about gambling being Haram don't apply all the time?
I was thinking that of crypto is earned outside of one's regular job, for example as a reward for activities such as bounties or sweepstakes, then maybe gambling with these earnings insta Haram?

These concepts are interesting to me because most Christian people like me, while having our religion dictate that gambling is a very serious sin, most do it anyway. Basically most christians aren't very pious at all and don't follow religion rules at least in my experience. So using loopholes to circumvent religious rules when your country even endorsed certain casinos isn't needed that much. So it's interesting to observe these differences.

Again, it is actually unethical to discuss the issue of gambling with religion and link it, remember that gambling is personal and so is religion, so it is very important for us to respect other people's views on rules and morals.  i am also a Christian and really respect other Christians who don't gamble because they think gambling is bad behavior, i never feel like i'm right, i just gamble without harming myself, my family and also other people because some radical Christians said that gambling destroys a person's personality and also destroys his life so in my opinion as long as the person is able to manage his gambling activities well then it is legal.

Let's settle on one fact about law and culture or religion, this three principle governs the physical elements of the people and this law or culture differs from place to place and is based on individuals' beliefs,  that is why you find gamblers even in a non-gambling regions but they are left to provide for the security and enhance the privacy if not when cash up with the laws,  it will take it cost and the individuals will be punished for that,  so we want the surprise to see individual gamblers violating either their states laws or even religion laws,  just to cash fun.

Why most of them find cryptocurrency as the best means of transaction while gambling,  is because of the core feature of cryptocurrency which is privacy and security,  so this made cryptocurrency to be the most preferred for those in that region and in such conditions.

Crypto isn't made to circumvent, it's a development in technology, and we are bound to adopt it.
Touchy subject but all over the world everyone gambles and we just set aside religion for a moment as it's not so bad to have fun for a bit. And the government is allowing the country to have some sort of a sin city where we can have fun and gamble and it's allowed.  Have some humanity. Can't Religion forgive a soul whose intention is to enjoy life?   ;D

I'm not sure though, because this topic could be sensitive to our Muslim brothers. Maybe it's haram maybe it's not and it's going to be debatable.

Anyhow, maybe we can look at similar threads below:

• Is Bitcoin halal? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311570.0)
• Is Bitcoin Halal or Haram: A Shariah Analysis (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3334983.0)
• Bitcoin is Islamic" -by Economist Bruce Fenton (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5427427.0)

This is a very sensitive topic and I'm not an authority but this is my opinion. Of course the laws apply. If something is downright forbidden, then doing the same thing differently doesn't mean it's no longer forbidden. What's interesting is that I didn't know that gambling is considered to be a sin in the Christian religion. According to the version I read this from, trading cryptocurrencies or forex might be considered a sin too. Anyway, that's by the way.

Crypto is a tool and if you use the tool for something bad or in this case forbidden, then it should be considered to be so.

The religion is different concept,many people believe that religious against the gambling.But it’s their own wish,because they had trust in the fact the gambling against their own religion.So they are not take part in the gambling,it was essentially important to accept the religious belief.With my point of view,the gambling also had the possibility of losing the hard earned money.It was the reason for the religious law against the gambling site.Mostly the people from the Islamic religion were against the gambling site,So they decided to not take part in the gambling site.Many atheists also against the gambling site.So playing is purely based on the person who use their money in gambling site.

Money is also a tool, and if it can be used badly, that does not mean it is bad. Religious logic forbids gambling on the basis that it is self-harm, similar to harming another person, and therefore it is a sin.

Like you, I did not know that gambling was a sin in Christianity, and I consider that the religions that did not prohibit it by religious legislation rejected it and considered it evidence of a sin. I do not imagine that there is any religion that approves of gambling as a personal freedom or as entertainment.

You shouldn't say gambling is against christianity rules, because AFAIK Jesus has never explicitly banned gambling. If you play fairly, without cheating, scamming or hurting someone why it would be forbidden? If you want to spread love around you, you need to be happy into your life and doing what you like to do is helping a lot for staying like that.

Don't associate religion with gambling, because this is clearly contradictory and it is clear that the Islamic religion strongly opposes all forms of gambling. And condemned that gambling is something that is haram and prohibited by religion. Gambling is not about halal and haram, but about likes and dislikes. Someone clearly knows that gambling is something that is haram, but because they like it, they will not hesitate to break the rules. And when someone finds out that gambling is haram, does he immediately stop his gambling activities? I do not think so...! he will continue to do this activity because he likes it. And when you go to a casino, before entering you will be asked what your religion is? I don't think so, the casino will only ask if you have enough money to start your gambling, if not then please go home. And when the casino finds out that you are a Muslim gambler, does the casino immediately kick him out? No..! The casino will not kick him out and the person will still be allowed to continue playing.

Religious rules are clear and cannot be changed because they are provisions. "God has established something that cannot be changed by his creatures"

I'm a Christian, man. Christianity is not against gambling, but a pastor (someone) who hates gambling and doesn't have any proper knowledge about gambling will definitely preach against it while passing on a sermon.

For example, since I love gambling, there's no way I could agree with anyone who is preaching against gambling. I will always have points to argue with and defend my interest as a gambler, but if I am a hater of gambling and someone is talking against gambling in my presence, I will also support what they are saying. If you hate something, you will always try to cave out some convincing fact or reasons that totally condemns what you preach against so that you can make the thing look bad on the site of your followers.

Christianity is not against gambling, nor is it a sin to gamble as a Christian. The thing is, most gamblers fall out of self-control while gambling, and they become reckless gamblers at the end of the day and may lose all the good things they have in their possession. At that point, Christianity becomes against addictions, lack of self-control, and immoral behavior, not against gambling.

For example, some people rob, steal, and even kill just to get money; the action they took to get that money is illegal, but those actions don't condemn money; people are still using money. That's how it is with gambling: some gamble responsibly, while others are reckless and do all manner of unethical things just to gamble. They could be committing illegal acts to gamble, but gambling itself is not immoral.

Before I speak further for the record: I do not mean to justify something that is wrong and blame rules that are definitely religiously correct, etc. In the case of gambling, I think any religion must prohibit it (correct me if I'm wrong  because this needs to be proven by each individual beliefs). However I am aware that even though all this time gambling, both crypto and fiat gambling, the law remains the same namely prohibited. It's just  that we have no other choice when faced with a life situation full  of demands to fulfill our needs. I admit that based on my beliefs what I did was a mistake, with the hope that one day I can improve myself  as best as possible. But now the difference  between haram  and  halal is increasingly biased in our eyes.

        -   Gambling is a matter of choice for each individual gambler. Today, if we associate gambling with religion, almost all religions, or the majority, are against the gambling industry.

Most religious groups do not think well of gambling. But of course, in the eyes of other gamblers or players in casinos, it is not because the reasons for each game are different and it is not consistent. Maybe the best thing to do is to respect everyone's every belief.

Gambling is haram. So whether you use crypto or fiat in gambling doesn't change a thing. It remains haram. It's like eating pork is prohibited, so whether you grill it or stake it doesn't matter. It remains prohibited. But I know of Muslims who gamble a lot. There are also a lot of Muslims who also drink alcohol even if it is also haram.

I think gambling is not actually considered a sin for Christians. Stealing money to gamble is a sin. Gambling with money that is supposed to be for buying food is a sin. But gambling itself is not. There are even priests who gamble.

If you are of a certain religion who doesn't believe in gambling and you are gambling in some way, are you really a believer in that religion? So many hypocrites when it comes to religion.

What's the penalty if you are caught gambling and are of a religion that doesn't believe in gambling?

Gambling is forbidden in Islam, because gambling keeps people in trouble all the time. Most of the gamblers suffer more losses while gambling because they become addicted, thus gambling is the only thing they indulge in without family concerns. So the gambler's family members are in poverty, Islam has always prohibited such acts. (One person's act will cause another person to be hurt) Such acts are Islamically forbidden, which is why gambling is included in it. Those who indulge in this gambling secretly or online gambling will be judged by the Creator as a judge in the Hereafter.

Basically in our country there is no special statement that gambling means all crypto. although some religious leaders say that crypto is haram in matters related to gambling, but not all. but from what you reported that crypto is used to circumvent strict regulations in some countries but it hasn't reached my country yet. Here they still mostly use real money to gamble. In fact, crypto here is generally considered an investment asset rather than a gambling asset. Unless you actually bet on a gambling site with it.

You are not wrong. Nowhere in the bible that points to gambling to be a sin. Only what bible pointed to is the love of money which is the root of evil. As long as you gamble responsibly and not hurting anyone, it is not a sin. But if you ask a pastor if gambling is a sin, likely the pastor will point to the love of money is the root of evil and how gambling can lead to unwanted happenings like losing money. They will advice people not to gamble, not because it is in bible, because it is not in the bible.

I am not a Muslim but I think there is no penalty for who is gambling, but if the public can know, maybe it will cause a public shame to the person. The punishment will depend on the country or state law.

From what I understand when comes to Islam the currency or the asset one uses to gamble does not matter at all on the fact gambling is Haram and would continue to be Haram, as one is wagering money on a random result, which of course neither of the parties involved have any power on. At least that is my impression, someone who is actually a Muslim could give a better explanation on how gambling is supposedly regulated and enforced/forbidden in the Islamic nations.
In my case, most people here in my country are Christian and Catholic, even if our religion discourages gambling and we are taught to avoid partaking on it, people in general do not make a big deal out of it, in general it is only a problem if those who are caught gambling are religious leaders of a community who usually say people is not supposed to gamble and yet they turn out to be victims of their own hypocrisy.
This more or less a free country so anyone can do whatever they want with their hard earned money, one of those things is to gamble, it is one of the advantages to live in a place where the state does not have an official religion but is more concerned on people to have their rights, at least on paper.

I think I have read some attempts to circumvent the teaching of the Koran some way, so people of Islamic country can wager, but to this day I am not sure that is possible, it would certainly open a big market and much money would be done by casinos, so I assume they will be still people trying for many years.

Gambling is still gambling and will never be accepted by all existing religions and the involvement of religious communities in gambling is their own responsibility to their God who they believe will provide everything including punishment if this is what is being discussed about religion and gambling.
But in reality, many people gamble even though they have religion that prohibits gambling and there are also many gamblers who still gamble even though they live in country that clearly prohibits gambling activities.
Prohibitions and rules are indeed given to everyone, but everyone has the right to decide on their own path in life and of course they must be prepared for the consequences that occur for all the activities they undertake.

Regarding gambling with crypto, it has nothing to do with whether it is haram or not because the use of crypto is only as means of determining the value of the currency used for betting.
It difficult to understand how there are people who have thoughts like that, I am also gambler who also adheres to one of my religious beliefs and I know that gambling is prohibited.
No one can really understand and obey the rules about gambling because they think gambling doesn't harm anyone and they do it because it fun.

To me, this isn't an issue that should've been cryptocurrency problem because I do think that this is an individual issue about that individual's faith because I do believe that's how it should be dealt with, remember that a man of faith that sins isn't really a man of faith in the first place so they'll be doing any way they can gamble even without cryptocurrency, it just happens that cryptocurrency is here so they're doing that and making crypto as a scapegoat for their own sins.

I don't really think it circumvents the rule itself. Sure the laws or whatever that fellow religious members impose can be circumvented, but the idea itself isn't since gambling is gambling no matter the medium. Using crypto in itself isn't anything illegal though since it's not gambling. Same with the idea of earning it via bounties since those are a sort of job ish thing? Sweepstakes I have no idea since afaik aren't sweepstakes similar to lotteries?

Anyway most people who probably impose the rules in religious settings are still undecided about things which is odd really since gambling is gambling. It'd be kind of dumb if the activity itself was described by the medium used instead of the, well, activity.

To be honest, I'm usually always reluctant to involve gambling and religion. whether it's fiat gambling, or crypto gambling. in this thread, I tried to find the essence of what you said. unfortunately, I didn't find the essence of what you said in this post. so, forgive me. Well, whatever theory you say, these things have no effect at all if we relate them to a belief, whatever the belief, and it all has its fundamentals. in essence, it is not what is used as a tool for playing or betting. likewise with crypto, or others. all will refer to the essential values ​​and prohibitions that have been regulated in such a way by a book that is embraced and believed by religious communities all over this earth. out there, or in several other Muslim countries, crypto is also classified as a part that can be haram or prohibited. well, if we try to discuss and relate gambling to any religion, in fact there are fundamentals that become a straight thread that leads to the law of cause and effect.

In general, the point is that the ideas you say are contradictory if we relate them to religion. especially, if we examine it in depth. but the point I'm making is not to argue against it. I just want to say, if it's good for you, us, me, then do it. most importantly, no one is harmed by what we do. for me, it's as simple as that, matters of faith are matters that involve an individual in his God. it has nothing to do with the gambling we do, because it is all our responsibility and personal business. I mean, it's all up to us who want to have fun. moreover, if we don't harm anyone, why not? also, in religion it is important not to harm ourselves. well, if anyone doesn't like my statement, I'm sorry because I'm not an expert on this, I'm just saying it from my personal point of view.

In Islam, gambling is still a sin, even if they use crypto. But people still gamble for many reasons, which is up to each person's decision. Crypto is like money, which is a tool to be used as payment. When crypto is used for gambling, like those who use fiat, it is haram. We don't know the religious laws or regulations in each country. But if a country allows gambling, people can gamble using crypto or fiat even though, religiously, this is prohibited. And gambling is each individual's choice, so if he knows that his religion prohibits gambling, but he still decides to gamble, that's up to him.

Crypto itself is called as Haram by some people so I don't think they accept gambling in any form but from an individual's perspective it's their choice and its good as long as it's done with discretion and not harming anyone including you.

I don't know about many people but people who I know say that they won't do gambling irrespective of their religion but when we get to know them closer they at least did once even so everyone has their dark side which they don't want to reveal to anyone.

Of course, there are various people in this forum who adhere to their religion and there are also those who do not adhere to their religion, there are even many who don't have a religion, but talking about legal issues in a particular religion seems unethical to discuss it here because maybe we will get comments on the pros and cons that might also touch on other religions, the point is that it all comes back to their own understanding.

I don't really think that it is a job that is haram because everything is hired based on hard work, for example being paid as a campaign participant and not entirely gambling, but that doesn't mean it is also called a halal job because it is haram and halal, you have to really understand the knowledge, I I'm sure not many people feel confident about their understanding of religion here, do it as long as it's good for you and leave it if it's actually not good for you, everything comes back to your own views and understanding.  ;)

as far as I know, muslims do not prohibit or do not consider crypto to be haram, but gambling may still be considered something that violates religious rules.
but in fact, most of the muslims in the city that I know of also gamble using fiat or crypto even though there is a ban, but they only consider this as entertainment and in fact there are still pros and cons regarding whether gambling using crypto is haram or not, which is certain as long as the gambler doesn't. hurting others and gambling using one's own budget is fine.

on the one hand, there are still many muslim gamblers who, when they get a big win, donate most of their winnings to give to the less fortunate or the poor.
what is certain is that I dont really want to understand things like this even though my religion is against gambling but still gambling is just entertainment and if someone said in front of me that gambling is sinful and haram I would answer "then what about muslims who trade in crypto".

I see this as just creating an excuses outside the religious frame to make you gamble with your conscience believing or convincing your self that you are not doing something wrong but then it's important to understand that cryptocurrency are still valued financially so the equivalent is same as using your money to gamble so they are all the same thing.

These cryptocurrency are literally earned, some persons work for it while some other are given as rewards so it will not make any sense to see it as not been a form of financial involvement in gambling hence it exclueds you from the fact that you are gambling on religious grounds, I see that as self decit because if you win while gambling with crypto, the next line of action is withdrawal which is later valued in your local currency a d the proceed thereof is used for your self so you gambled and if religiously it's considered a sin you are a sinner because you did sinned.

I am a Christian and we have a saying here in our doctrine that you cannot serve two masters you will hate one and love the other one if you prioritize gambling more than church activity then you are serving your vice more than your religion, it's ok to gamble if you're a religious guy as long it will not hinder your obligation as a Christian and you only use money that you can afford to lose.
The bottom line here is you know your priority you treat gambling as a form of entertainment and you do your obligation as a Christian so with this the Lord is indeed your master and your gambling activity is something you can do away with anytime.

Does privacy really matter nowadays?
I think that is the reason they are doing that, if privacy is the priority of using cryptocurrency then why are they still requesting for people's personal data while gambling or making deposit. To me I can say it is the simplest and easiest way to use in gambling but for about privacy I don't think we are still maintaining privacy anymore even cryptocurrency exchange do asked for people's personal data before they could execute any activity in their site and we still talks about privacy except for the decentralized gambling platform.

However, it always advisable to avoid some form of religious discussion and that is personal and we should don't try to put other's people religion down there to talk about them I believe this is a sensitive discussion and shouldn't be deliberated over here, we have forms of people and even as that the two major religion do gamble but to start talking about them is something that mostly bring about disagreement between two or more people.

A thought-provoking point, isnt it? Its truly awe how cryptocurrency, gambling, and religion all come together. One the one hand, gambling is explicitly forbidden by Islam. Then, however, crypto appears, all subtle and sly. Is it actually a casino scenario? Its not exactly your typical one.

The truth is, I believe it all comes down to your perspective on your faith and its precepts. Perhaps obtaining cryptocurrency through legitimate means (such as bounties) differs from conventional gambling. However, isnt the excitement of taking a chance still present? Its as if you're reinterpreting or bending the rules?

In my opinion, responsible gambling is fine as long as it doesnt go against your basic values. You do realize your limitations, dont you? Regardless of your faith - Christian, Muslim, or otherwise - the goal is to find the ideal place to balance enjoyment with religion without going too far. Just my opinions!

In the Islamic concept, gambling is haram, it is not stated in detail that it is haram when you use fiat money but it is allowed with crypto. The law still applies whether using fiat or crypto, the wishes of each individual who continues to gamble is their own business. When you find the fact that gambling is against religion but continue to do it, it becomes a matter between you and your god. It needs to be underlined, not all Muslims adhere to the teachings of their religion. They will continue to gamble even though their religion prohibits it.

I don't think that the bible forbids gambling, and as a Christian with many friends, some of them enjoy it. Except in cases where you commit a grave error, such as holding anger toward someone as you gamble and even consider killing them, being able to steal money from your fellow citizens can be a grave mistake. You will as a result bear a heavy price and be required to pay it back forever.

My Muslim buddy told me that anything that could be harmful to the body is regarded as Haram. I have encountered Muslims in my country who seek fair trade and honest employment. For this reason, they do not gamble, instead, fishing is their primary source of income. However, I have also witnessed other people who, despite the fact that it is against their faith, continue to engage in prohibited behavior. One tactic they use to avoid being discovered by other Muslims is to travel to areas with a large number of Christians who reside in that area and no Muslim neighbors. That way, they can then do as they like, including drinking and, of course, gambling.

Religion, in my opinion, may help us understand the kind of people we are since it serves as our means of discipline.

How can you say that gambling becomes legal with you use Crypto and it becomes illegal when we use the fiat money? I guess it should be legal or illegal regardless of which medium of currency you use to gamble.

I think this topic has been touched on many times in the past and it is obvious that in the religions where it is not allowed, the people of that religion should not be playing gambling and be restricted towards it. But still if they play, no one can stop them as it is a religious belief and it shows how much a person is near to the God and how much spirituality exists in the person.

Gambling is still gambling no matter what currency you are using. Gambling is not about the currency but the act of wanting to earn in quicker way by risking your own money for a chance to gain profit because this shows greediness which is the one that is forbidden with their religion.

The only time your example will be possible if the player use a currency that doesn’t have real value because this will turn into regular game instead of gambling because there’s no real money involved.

Every religion has prohibited those acts which make human life miserable. I think gambling is illegal in every religion. But not having good knowledge about all religions, I cannot properly express any opinion on it. If gambling is made illegal then gambling with crypto or gambling in exchange for anything will be illegal. I don't know if there is any difference in gambling by crypto or fiat currency. The main point is that whoever has his religion should have knowledge about it. Moreover, he has to be responsible for any wrongdoing. If one wants to practice religion properly then he must follow the rules of that religion. But most people gamble after knowing everything.

The fact is that,  those gambler from such restricted area are not allowed to play on centralized casinos because due to they regional law,  those casinos may be banned in such places,  but still those from that regions will still fine they way to play games on decentralized casinos and at that point,  there may not be need for KYC data collection and for that,  they will be able to play under highest privacy.

Or some will even risk using a VPN to bypass the restrictions and also will be willing to dump the account if they are asked to pass through the KYC process.

Islam is a religion that strongly opposes all forms of gambling, whether it is gambling affiliated with crypto, online gambling, offline gambling. Islam considers gambling to be an activity that can cause harm.

And I am a Muslim, I like to gamble... I know that this is an act that is not permitted by religion and it is haram for me to gamble.. I do not justify that the gambling activity that I do is good, on the grounds that gambling can gives me pleasure... I know very well that this is wrong and can be detrimental. So why am I still gambling? Yes because I like it... no other reason. Sin matters are borne by each individual. The most important thing is that I don't invite other people to do the same thing, namely gambling.

Personally, I believe that there should be no restrictions over a person. Gambling is a breath of freedom and an opportunity to get away from the harsh reality (if you do not get into debt and do not lose more than the amount you have predetermined for yourself as a stop value). The main limitation is the success of your actions (if you are always losing and going into debt, the answer is obvious).

If a priest or a pastor says that, he's wrong in my opinion, because gambling is not the only activity using money. Merchants try to earn money by selling goods, so we could also say they love money too much and celebrate the worship of lucre and the cult of Mammon. Gamblers don't like money so much otherwise they would be too much afraid of losing it for playing it, gamblers just like to gamble actually. Gambling can be dangerous if you are addict and if you have a family needing the money you gamble to live. But if you only play with what you can afford to lose, I don't see any problem. Doing things making you happy, is good for you and for your entourage.

Quite confusing with scapegoat of their sins. Indeed we do all have different beliefs especially when it comes on our religions. In most religions, gambling is prohibited and that's it. Most of us here has religion but why are we still here? We have that drive to earn money even if it would be against our religion; that's how frustrating life is to many people. However, we have our own reasons on why we are still gambling against our religious beliefs and that simply explains why monetary things should be separated from our beliefs.
Legality and restriction are different from one another. If something is legal then that is honored by the government. When something is prohibited then it could be belief or by consent of particular group and does not involve regulation and restriction on government's end, in most instances.Gambling is known to not be supported by religious beliefs therefore this shouldn't be an issue to us who are here.

I guess you are not talking about gambling is legal or illegal rather we are discussing the status of gambling from the religious point of view.

In some religions if the gambling is prohibited but if the person is able to win in gambling and make enough money to feed  his family and become a useful person for the society still from the religious prospective he is doing a sin. When we talk about the religion we do not see the pros and cons of the rules of the religion, the religion is to be a obeyed without any excuses.

Well if you take a look at the history, gambling was frowned upon by religious groups from the start. So we can assume that they will try to ban it no matter the currency. If it's government issued or decentralized. And those religous rules are old anyway, so they don't keep up with modern times. Updating them is besically up to religious leaders and who know what their views will be in the future, but i would bet them banning it. Even if the betting would be against the rules.

And then there are people who have their personal connection with religion or gods, they are asking their advice directly from the source, so i don't see any one monolithic answer to this. And hiding their gambling isn't really exclusive to religious people either.

Religion prohibits gambling and it is also haram because it benefits one party and harms many parties, the logic in my opinion is like that. And everything that harms many people, even one person, is considered haram or sinful.
Because gambling can also harm yourself, your family, your children, your wife and also everyone closest to you. And gambling can also damage a person's mental and religious norms. Because there are many negative impacts of gambling, one of which is damaging the economy, getting into debt, increasing crime, reducing morale or laziness, forgetting God and many others.

I assume you are from a country where the government or the family values are directed by the Koran and the Islamic traditions, though there is something which catches my attention about gambling in Islamic countries: in some of those countries gambling is legally forbidden or restricted and yet there are ways which are used by people to continue to wager money and there are also countries where people is allowed to gamble but it is discouraged. Do religious authorities have any say or way to get involved in the regulation of gambling in those countries where the majority of people are followers of the prophet Mohammed ?
I have even seen people here in the forum who consider themselves to be muslin and yet they openly admit to engage in gambling and they are not supposed to be judged by anyone but Allah, God himself. What are you opinion on it?

Also, they things you say are somewhat true, but I believe you may be exaggerating a little bit on the negative consequences of gambling, gambling is one thing and being addicted to it is a completely different context, in my opinion. 

People tend to talk about religion and sin, but every day they are lying and consequently every day they are committing sins, but even so they continue to criticize other people who are in the world of gambling. Religion blinds people, turns people into robots that follow other people's commands. Religion makes people not think for themselves. One day I read in a newspaper that a woman who was a prostitute was celebrating and endorsing that a certain group of a certain religion would attack people of another religion. Note that this prostitute woman considers herself to be of the Muslim religion, but in the Muslim religion they do not accept things she does, but when she spoke about how they should attack Christians, she had a lot of support

By this I mean that some people use religion to justify their bad acts, many people commit sins consciously. So when a person is sitting at home playing in some casino, having fun without harming other people, then that person should definitely not be judged as if they were doing any harm to society. That's why in my opinion people should be free to play as they please, they're not doing anything wrong. Of course, the money you use to play must be clean money, something like money coming from your salary or a clean business, this is because you need to respect the laws of the country you live in.

First, there is no difference in using crypto or fiat for gambling.  When we engage in gambling whatever method of deposits we use, we are still  gambling.   With regards to religion, I still believe that gambling is not restricted in any scripture since there is no direct writings that forbid a person to not gamble.  It is more likely a personal interpretation of who ever has the authority on that religion. 

They keep on saying gambling is not permitted in the scripture but there is no direct commandments that stated not to gamble.  Worst some religious group say that gambling is forbidden and yet they collect funds through raffle programs.


Not only most Christians but most people are not pious at all.  Yes there is Christian gambler and so is Muslims and other religions. 

Gambling is just like every other activities you can't catch fun from and get self entertained while also with a probable reward attached for the passion. It's a matter of choice as a religious man should you choice to gamble in as much as you do it responsibly without causing disgrace and pain to yourself and family through irresponsible gambling.

If you're a religious fanatic that decides not to gamble because your religion frown at gambling it doesn't mean another brother in same religion that does gamble should be regarded as an evil person, that is his decision and shouldn't be judged. There are religious person's that claim to publicly distant themselves from gambling but engage in it secretly. There are worst things than gambling that people do but because it's a nocturnal act no one is talking about in their various religion.

that is very true, not all religious persons have the determination to live by the book. some are walking the path outside of their religious protocols but of course most of them are being discreet about it. i believe a lot are already diverging outside their religious beliefs. we are just humans to be tempted by this kind of addictive activity.

for me, as long as you are not harming anyone, i think that's fine. everyone has their own beliefs and way of living their lives.

One thing that i can say about this on which it would really be just that still depending on "INDIVIDUALS DECISIONS".
Everything that you are tending to do is will really be that basing into the decisions you do made, if you do know that if a certain thing is prohibited on religious means then
no matter how many methods or ways that would be known or shared out then you wont really be doing anything.

Now that cryptocurrency gambling has been known and you've seen that gambling is really that possible. Then why would really be tending to get engage with
it if you do know that it is really that not allowed? This does means that you are really that responsible towards your actions and if its a sin on religious approach
then you do know on what you have done.

Many gamblers friend on myself had the opportunity to make money using the gambling site.But the fact is they will never get into the gambling at the any choice.Some of my gamblers friends still involve to the gambling website by the bigger ones with huge betting money.The gambling was prohibited in the Muslim community because some of his followers will get addicted to gambling site.

It was not the first time to hear about the gambling site not used by the certain religious people.I had an Christian family members and friends who don’t warn the public about his involvement in the gambling site.If the gambling was begun with the intention of making money.It was hard to make money without any skills in the gambling site.The gamblers should not take money from the gambling site to casino games for the excitement.

I'm an ex-christian and this is what I have observed as well since I was young. I think one of the reasons for this is because, for a lot us, religion is something we kind of inherit hence we can't expect everyone to be fully into it.

I should also mention that holy books can be open for interpretation. It's similar to how some people consider bitcoin as haram and some people completely disagree with it. I can imagine some of our muslim brothers being okay with gambling long as it's in moderation without feeling like they've broken anything as it is still in line with their interpretation.

I think the OP and his Muslim friends have a little error in their understanding of gambling, regardless of using fiat currency or cryptocurrency, gambling is one of the things that is prohibited in Muslims. Actually not only Muslim religion not allowed gambling but also all religion around the world but some people make it fun with gambling and not push them as profession, better don't mixing about gambling with religion or some country not allow gambling as legal activities there.

Its very important thing keep respect with other viewed exactly personal not allowed gambling in their religion and need to respect it whatever way to make deposit trough fiat or cryptocurrency. Gambling have bad behavior side exactly for some one have been addict with gambling and loss controlling their emotion how to stop from gambling.

Yes, the most important thing is that it doesn't actually harm other people, that's why religion prohibits it because it has too many negative impacts compared to positive impacts, for example robbing, stealing or even committing suicide, many cases are made by gambling addicts just to satisfy their emotions by gambling so looking for money in the wrong way to finance his gambling.

Everyone has different beliefs and not everyone agrees with the rules and laws of their respective religions, not everyone thinks that gambling has a negative impact as well as a positive impact, it all comes back to each individual as long as they are still gambling for themselves without harming others. it's normal and the point is to always remind yourself not to gamble if you can't control yourself.

This is why sometimes i do really that totally opposes some religious rules or ways on which there are really that prohibitions which are already having no sense on which even though it doesnt really give out other people to harm on which i could say that it is really just that it is way too much but i cant blame out people to be able to engage into those things even though its prohibited just because
there are moments or times that it cant really be avoided. We do know that there are really things in life that despite of being not allowed but we do naturally getting involving with it.
Yes, we do commit out mistakes on religious approach but talking about getting harm into other people then its not. So its up to your choice on whether you would be trying it out or not.

There are a bit of religious laws that are difficult to adhere and keep to humanly speaking, to which some of the religious adherents have the motive of keeping to those laws in the book but along the line they derail because what they are instructed by their religious doctrine not to do is a function/activity they are in love with, perhaps gives them a feeling of joy when they carry it out.

It is then the responsibility of those that by grace are able to keep to the doctrine t not to condemning those that are unable to but rather admonish and talk with them in brotherly love. What excites you might not excite me and maybe gambling doesn't excite Mr X that's why he can stay away from it but what about Mr Z. One other thing here is that people should be allowed to do what they enjoy in as much as it doesn't affect their moral and responsible personality especially if they are not holding a leadership position in that religious gatherings.

For Muslim I know gambling is haram, but for Christian, when was the bible said gambling is forbidden?


If you're a strict person when it comes to religion, have you adopt all of the additional rules below?


If you didn't or can't follow all the rules, why you need to make a double standard? I want to see a proof if you're donate 10% of your income to charity, not view pornography and not drink a coffee.

The bible might not talk about gambling in exact language, but we also have to acknowledge that many of Christianity's important texts came before the Muslim religion, so it's also a possibility that the term gambling itself was not very popular back then.

Many Christians of today might not realize that the bible not explicitly mentioning betting and gambling, doesn't mean gambling is not considered a sin.


This is just one of many occasions in the bible that activities akin to gambling, i.e. intending to become rich, are characterized as sinful.

In another passage Jesus was quoted a saying:
- Luke 18:25

So based on the above principles, gambling is indeed a very bad vice based on Christianity.
There's big political reasons why the various Christian churches in the later years haven't done much to talk against gambling.
Personally I'm not a Muslim but I understand why many predominantly Muslim countries limit gambling. It's just in accordance to what their forefather's were taught to be a very bad vice.
In contrast predominately Christian countries not doing anything to limit gambling sounds very hypocritical based on how the bible views gambling also.

I agree with you, it's really unethical to tackle the gambling and religion issue because it's a broad topic and many people will get offensive in different type of comments here since we have different perspective when it comes to religion linked in gambling. Just like you, I always respect other people who definitely disagree in doing gambling because they have different beliefs and As a sign of respect, I chose not to have a conversation with them about it.

Religion has been created by humans to control the humans itself and to keep them in a civilized manner - reduce the sins/bad things and allow a "central powerful figure" to idolize.

These things are not really logical in the world of science but faith can go forward with many good things, but its a personal choice.

With these things in mind, I think the religious control over people to control their sinful actions are gradually being lifted and that is why people gambling even more. Here crypto is not a factor, its just money in another form. If someone wishes to gamble, they can and its their own choice.

Even in other things. They are created because they have a primary use. The sad thing is that they are being blamed only because people who misused and over use them. Or they use it even if there are restrictions on their place, country and religion.

Speaking of religion, many people can, area, or a country can get involved with it. So it's not just what we call an individual issue, as that sounds you are talking about one person only. A man of faith on the other hand, can mean that he is faithful. It can be to their god, but I think they are still sinners, even if they don't commit one but right after they are born. That is what I read in the bible before.

Lol if you want to follow religion to the last tenets of it, it doesn't support gambling whether for the intent of fun or whatever, because it was demonstrated in the synagogue when Jesus Christ chased some gamblers away and scattering their gambling materials even though it was in the church but it shows it is not a virtue for those known with the religion. And this is the case also of Muslim religion . A man that upholds his religious faith try to stay away from gambling.

You either are Muslim and accept this or you're not and openly say that you prefer a different religion. This reminds me of that video where a guy slips and eats a meal falls into his mouth during Ramadan  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDdOchBejcc) and the guy casually asks if he should continue fasting. There's no half measures here, you either accept the rules or you don't.
Another thing that makes me laugh is women who say they're still virgin because they were once with a man but it was long ago and a mistake, so this is like they're starting their life once again.
I'm not Muslim, but I'd be honest with myself and other people and if I wanted to gamble when my religion doesn't allow it I'd choose one of them.

In my country, we have Muslims and other religions that gamble and for sure the thing depends on individual differences because what you do as a religious practice is still by individual acceptance of them,  and if you choose to gamble,  your religion can't restrict you because religion is made for man,  and not man-made for religion,  so for that, every religion,  cultural or ethnicity believes are still subject to the individual's acceptance.

And the wider it gains acceptance the more the law gains legitimacy among the people,  so for sure if some segment of religion restricts public gambling,  then the citizens should avoid it or violate the law and be ready to evade being punished by the law if caught.

Every religion has peculiar laws on gambling. Even within a religion, there are different interpretations of the content of the Holy Books. I know that gambling is forbidden in Islam regardless of the currency or goods that is used. Even if you use non-monetary materials to gamble, it is Haram in Islam. Some Christian creed accepts gambling, while others see it as a sin. For me, it will be better to obey the dictates of your religion based on the religious book.

My religious organisation sees gambling as immoral but I gamble because it is not forbidden by our religious book. I believe the head of my religious denomination is interpreting the book based on his view. I am looking for any loophole in my religion to gamble, as much as gambling doesn't conflict with my conscience, I will keep playing.     

It's essential to consider the interpretations of your religious book and the guidance provided by your religious denomination. Reflecting on the moral implications and potential conflicts with your conscience is also crucial.

How do you reconcile your personal beliefs with the official stance of your religious organization?

When my religious organization tries to criticize me based on my personal beliefs I usually ask them to refer me to where it is written in the religious book that my actions are against the religious teachings. In most cases, they don't have any proof or reference. Most of these beliefs are based on personal interpretations of religious leaders. Another example is the consumption of alcohol by religious members. There is no reference in our Holy Book that using alcohol is immoral but this has been misconceived. I don't care what people preach but my relationship with my Creator.

When all must be connected to religion, in the end it will all be based on personal interpretation.
They seem to have authority in everything that includes morals and religious life,
so they consider everything a person does such as gambling to be a very negative thing.

Even though in real life what they do, including religious leaders, they are also not far away from a life that is like gambling.
Many deeds or jobs contain gambling, but they are impatient.

It is indeed about one's personal deeds, the most important thing is not to disturb others and not to have a negative impact on others.
What is dangerous is indeed when what one does adversely affect the environment and the lives of others.

If the country was purely based on the Muslim religion will leads to a more ban law for the users in the gambling site.The game is the game,the people who considered the gambling as the game will play without consideration of the religious beliefs.But if the gambler was more orthodox to accept the religious beliefs without asking the question may leads to the same conclusion of quit the gambling without get to knowing the knowledge of the reason behind this opposition view for the gambling site.The better way to do the gambling without knowing the knowledge of the gambling will always leads to the loss.

People that claim to be religious do these things all the time and there is often great hypocrisy in their actions. You can find people that drink, smoke, steal, lie, commit adultery and all sorts of other "sins" in every religion and it's more common than you'd think, it's just hidden away out of the supposed shame it would bring. I also like how certain people, even here, try to prevent others talking about such things because it just highlights how very fake the followers can be. I personally prescribe to the belief that man should judge man, based on laws that were created around the moral code prevalent in the current time and not flake out to some gibberish that was written with little evidence many thousands of years ago.

We should not go about deceiving ourselves, if you're a kind of person that is being religious and then your religion practice does not permit for gambling then don't try to put things in your hands than going by what your beliefs are in what you practice, some see it as an illegal means of making money, so when you gamble, it's believed that you're extorting from someone to please your own self at other's expense, this is most of the wrong believe the religious people have towards gambling and I don't know if they are the ones implementing that or from their religious book and ethics.

It was said that there is no direct text written that states that gambling is a sin.  It is more likely an interpretation of one of the respected leader of the religion.  Since they believe that relying on luck and not with God is a sin.  Since gambling purely relies on luck, religious leader interpret it as gamblers not believing on the power of God  to make his financial capability stable.


Most religious leaders lie or exaggerate when they tell a story.  Drinking is not a sin, since even Jesus Christ turn water into a wine in order for the guest to have something to drink.  Being drunk is. 

Gambling is preached to the world as sins by the same people that takes active part in the system and gambling as if they're weigh out of control and beyond the law. I must remind every single one person, no one is above the law and any rule violated, the victim will be punished according the law states and no depending on sentiments to settle quarrels and sins committed. But since everyone is hypocrites, we practice sin in our daily activities, remind you that there are certain activities that have become one or two part of Man on earth and quitting is weigh scheduled out of plan.

The first thing to take note of is if the particular religion is against gambling In any manner, and of course a majority of religions do.
The fact that one doesn't gamble based on religious restrictions is quite biased. This is because a lot of the persons actually would gamble if not for the fact that their religion condemns it. And this is not supposed to be so.

Gambling is supposed to be a thing of choice and not some kind of commitment based on religion or culture. Occasionally I have met with a few religious persons who don't gamble just because of their religion and not because they don't like the act. and this is logically a biased abstinence.
It is also important to keep in mind that making mention of a particular religion like some persons do make mention of Islam wen it comes to rules like those against gambling, is unethical.

It's all about moderation I'm also a Christian although the Church is very strict about gambling it's about having too much but if you treat it as a form of entertainment just like they do when you're watching a movie I don't think it will be considered as a grave sin, if you're spending more time than when you do on the church and you spend more then your donation to the church, you are putting gambling above your religion, so of if you don't want to feel guilty put the Church above gambling.

My guy, they're not gamblers that Jesus chased away, they were merchants I think. Also, there's nothing really wrong with gambling in my opinion when it comes to religious beliefs, sure they prohibit or outright disagree with it but if the interests of gambling industry and religious sects align like when there's donations or something like that, they're really lenient on it. I mean look at Muslim countries, they still got lottery in there even though gambling is illegal for their religion.

There will be a long debate when discussing gambling and religion. Each person will have their own argument and perhaps no one will budge. But in any case, it will all come back to each person because even though they know that their religion prohibits gambling, maybe they will still return to gambling. After all, they can gamble in moderation and not to excess even though they know that their religion prohibits gambling.

And even if people gamble using crypto, it will still be prohibited by their religion but it still depends on the person. If they knew their religion prohibited gambling, they would never want to go near it. They are better off looking for other pleasures permitted by their religion. They don't want to have anything to do with something that is prohibited in their religion.

It is difficult to link gambling with religion, because the two are contradictory, especially in Islam, the law is absolute, namely haram. So there is no reason whatsoever if gambling, both offline and online, remains haram, whether gambling with crypto or fiat remains haram. Gambling is individual only if it is associated with any religion. I think all religions are against gambling.

Because for a religion, gambling is seen as very destructive and dangerous entertainment. Indeed, gambling has existed in society for centuries and cannot be eliminated because there are still many people who need gambling to try their luck or just have fun. But religion definitely teaches goodness. In my country, where the majority of the population is Muslim, gambling is haram and the government does not legalize gambling, even though many people in my country gamble secretly.

As said by another user earlier, there is a difference between laws set by a country and rules set by a religion, and one shouldn't compare these two or reach a conclusion about a religious rule based on a law within their country. So, a country that doesn't allow gambling might have laws about it that the citizens need to abide by, however, a religion and its rules might be completely different and may match or on some occasions contradict the rules of a country.

What I can say is that one cannot say that it's permissible to gamble with cryptocurrency even if their religion says it's a sin and isn't permissible. Crypto is just like money, the religion will never say that you are not allowed to gamble with a specific currency, but it says that it's not permissible to make a bet and win money from that bet and then use that money for food or whatever.

I don't know about the Muslim way of betting since I am a Christian, gambling is inherent in a human being it is hard to stop the urge to gamble and not every Christian is a saint to restrict himself from gambling, so the best Christian can do is to not indulge too much on gambling, too much indulgent will make the hobby into a vice and this is something the Church forbid from his followers.
We have so many Christian sects here in our country so every sect has its interpretations of defining gambling based on their interpretation of what's on the Bible.
but usually goes down to moderation and not spending too much.

I don't really like this kind of discussion linking religion with gambling because it might get to a point where we are urging others who are not into gambling yet. They might think it's right to go against their tradition, beliefs, and rules.
Well, in my opinion, it's up to each individual on how strong his/her belief is. It is true that most Catholics and Christians are not that serious about the order of the Bible about gambling, no disrespect to those who still follow them but that is a fact. Muslims on the other hand are strict about this so they are not easily swayed even if there's a chance that they can go away with it using cryptocurrencies. Those who have faith that whatever they do is being seen by their God will still hold themselves and not follow these urges.
Sure, it is an inviting feat because they can take away the traces of gambling but like I said, faith is something that cannot be seen but the truth will still be there if they will gamble. What will be left to them is their conscience that will be more difficult to carry.

I don't like gambling and religion discussions, it's not worth the argument, all I can say is that the few Muslims I know don't see gambling as haram, they place bets on sports matches especially football games.

It's a matter of choice, and there is no need for Muslims to have their own separate block chain just because other users are using Bitcoin to gamble, I will still advice them to invest in Bitcoin if they want, no new coin will be best over Bitcoin.

It's actually simple, if you don't like gambling you should abstain from it, I don't want to know what your Quran or other only book said, if you believe in the words then proceed by respecting the rules.

I can see few Muslim coins on the internet, something with sharia law implemented, I've never seen it working, though I may be wrong, but honestly it's not needed, Muslims and Christaind are welcome to invest in Bitcoin if they want, separation is what makes religions a never ending war.

Yes, this will always be a long debate when discussing crypto, gambling and religion, everyone has their own views in assessing that, we must be able to respect anyone and not force anyone to follow what we understand and believe in our views, the point is is don't gamble if it is true that gambling is haram and please gamble if in our view it is not haram.

There are laws and it may all be found in the hadith of Islamic people, which I know is not easy to say that it is haram without looking at the details, just like smoking, many people view the law as haram but on the one hand there are also Islamic figures who smoke, the point is it can't We say it's haram if we don't know the knowledge. The point is don't gamble if it's haram, but if it's not haram, just gamble, because every behavior will be held accountable in the end.  ;)

Really up depending into someones choice whether they would really be commiting those mistakes on what they do believe or something about in speaking about religious rules or whatsoever.There are ones who are really that too strict when it comes on following into those aspects on which committing something against those things isnt something that they could really be able to do so. Some doesnt care on which on the time that they would really be seeing some opportunity for them to deal with then they would actually be doing it without any hesitance as long there's no one around that could bust up on the things that he is doing with the same religion then they would really be definitely doing such thing in silent. Yes, you might be able to skip out peoples eyes but with God eyes then there's no such thing about escape.

We do have different religion into this world on which some might be allowed doing gambling and some who do really have that strict prohibition on which it would really be just that
that will really be depending on you whether you would really be doing it or not. Its up to someones own decision which we do know that each of us
does have that kind of decision in life.

If gambling is a sin for them then no matter what they use to gamble or currency then it is a sin.
They are just lying to their self or making excuse, they might hide it to others by hiding their activities through crypto, but they are aware of what they are doing.

What religion inside Christianity are you talking about? Protestant religions dictate gambling is a very serious sin based on the interpretation of The Bible by their pastors, although there is nothing in The Bible which literally address gambling as a serious sin, rather it talks more about sins based on the love for money, that is, to put money above everything else, including God. However, not every gamblers are greedy people. There are gamblers who enjoy to have some fun betting, but they don't sacrifice their principles and morals in counterpart.

So it's totally possible to gamble without harming the teachings contained on The Bible. When we say to play responsively, to only bet money you can afford to lose, to not chase losses, to not become obsessive for gambling, we are indirectly making the same recommendations The Bible does, because our purpose is the same: to keep a healthy, thriving and peaceful life for body, mind and spirit.

The Bible isn't aimed to punish you or to forbid you from having pleasures in life. It's just supposed to guide you in the best way as possible, so you can enjoy the best the world can offer, without prejudicing yourself. It's much more about equilibrium in our actions than restrictions and castrations.

Well, religious people have many restrictions, the deeper they are in religion, the more rules they have to follow. Every religion has some rules, so if someone wishes to dedicate their life to God and all that stuff it's their thing and I don't have anything against it. But they should mind their own business and leave others to live their lives as they want...

I think I am pretty soft with these words because mixing any religion and gambling is a bit foolish. People should be free to have some fun in life with the money they have... If it doesn't hurt others why should be banned and restricted? Some rules are pretty stupid...

I try as much as I can not to delve into religious affairs considering that religion is a sensitive subject. My conviction stem from the fact that religion, which is supposed to be a personal and private affair, has been made so complex that it now divide humanity instead of uniting humanity.

Since we don't have religious scholars here, everyone should just chose what is convenient and align with their beliefs and do it privately. I really do not see the intersection of Bitcoin, a technology created to make life better, will be considered as bad from a religious perspective.  It is like a religious sect in my country that once said television was bad and that members should destroy their TVs and stop watching it. But when reality dawn on them after a while, the same religious sect is using television in their religious activities today.

so long they are not in trouble with anyone and they feel comfortable about doing it, there's no reason for them to be guilty or whatever they think is wrong with them. religion is just created by humans, for something to believe on. it is not an absolute truth that we need to stick even if it is hindering a simple enjoyment in life.


should just take care of their beliefs and not bother others. as you said, mind your own business. you don't need to nag someone about your beliefs. you can keep your beliefs within yourself and not think that you are above them because you are sticking to your religion.

Does saying gambling is a sin for Christians and Haram for Muslims make individuals of these religions quit gambling? I do not think so. There is a moral stand in everything, and every gambling person should allow this to guide them. If you are gambling and wasting time, life, career, relationships, mental health, finances, then you should have a conversation with yourself. Outside of the religious restrictions, there should be a personal restriction.

It is just a question of conscience which if not guilty would not mean any harm but if they feel its guilty they will keep getting pestered by their guilty conscience that they committed a sin and they are not a good person anymore.

Basically for any religion gambling is a sin. But the final decision is from our side what we decide to do with our money. A restriction is only a fancy word nowadays, with the different methods to circumvent systems, nobody is actually restricted from anything. So gamble if you feel it is ok to do so but dont if you are guilty about it.

Even today if you ask logically, the long term result of gambling is a loss, so it is wrong to play for long.

whether you use crypto or not, gambling is still gambling, and both christianity and islam forbid gambling, but even so, there are still many people who continue to gamble because they think that gambling is not a serious sin which makes their god very angry with them, so they keep doing that. moreover, whether to gamble or not is a matter for an individual and his or her religion, there is no need to worry too much about it, if you feel guilty because you have gambled you can stop, or you can continue if you think that it is not too big of a sin.

I agree. What if it's a single guy who wants to have some fun with his life with his own hard-earned money? Will it still be a sin if he can please himself through gambling?

Other religions are hardcore so this is still a sin because they are not spending the money in the wisest way. Well, there are a lot of wise people who gamble and yet they know or feel that satisfaction can be found there.
I also dislike talking about gambling and religion, it's hard to explain especially if they have different Bible's that they follow. I am a Christian who gets deep when I am in church. I don't think about anything but just Him and yet I don't feel that gambling is a sin when I know to myself that I am not hardcore in gambling and I don't forget my responsibilities with my wife and my kids. I would never risk our budget just to please myself.
I think this can only apply to those who are already destroying themselves with gambling addiction. Somehow, they are on the wrong path and are not responsible gamblers anymore.
We can still enjoy it even with low bets but others find it as a long way to profit while gambling should be a faster way to make money. I don't agree with that. We will just lose if that is our perspective against the house. Some do it to rush their VIP rank, wager more, and rank faster. I think that's foolish because the bonuses would not suffice with our losses.

This is where I am not comfortable with moat religious people. They tend to see other people's behavior as immoral just because their own religion doesn't permit it. If you want to obey religious rules, go ahead and do it but don't criticise the the actions of others because everybody has his or her life to live. I one part of my country that are mainly inhabited by Muslims, other religions are restricted from gambling even when it is not against the constitution of our country.

Responsible gambling should be the major teaching of both religious and political leaders because gambling is as old as man. It has existed harmlessly even before most religion was founded and it has been a major source of entertainment and a means of getting some extra income. I also don't like discussing gambling with religious fanatics because they have been blinded by indoctrination.

That is a well known fact.I assume it is happening everywhere but from my experience I have seen in Stake casino a lot of Muslim nicknames there gambling the hell out of it and also being high in VIP ranks,meaning they have wagered a lot.This I think happens commonly in many other casinos as crypto truly bypass the Muslim countries restrictions,with a bank account they are still limited by identity while in crypto no one can stop anyone,a major beauty point of crypto.

I have no idea on what particulars are in the laws of religious in Muslim about gambling but with the Christians or Catholics, there are still have that faith that gambles and even pray for their luck. Maybe just like any other faith, there are some real ones that follow 100% and there are the ones that don't follow it. It is a sensitive topic at all times when the discussions is all about religions and faiths.

But if it's going to be with gambling, it's easy to get on it and talk about it because everyone's interest is on it. There could be the same in both faiths and other faiths that some of the believers does things that are against to their beliefs but still find themselves faithful and just trying to weigh what they do and they don't even let other believers know what they does. So, we're all humans and we have differences and sometimes we do get the same belief regardless of the faith that we're having. If you're faithful to your religion, you're going to follow but you can't stop those that are thinking to themselves that they're faithful but at the same time, does things that go against to their laws with their faith.

Gambling was restricted by many previous religious, in my case grownup in a Muslim family my parents and relatives doesn’t know that I gamble because for them it’s a very big sin and will hurt myself if I gamble, as in Christianisme for them it’s a big sin. All holy books wrote things about Gambling such as :
(Matt. 6:24) : You cannot serve both God and money
Gambling for them it ruins your spirit and makes you a bad person, lead to social and economic harms. To me simply, religions are avoiding anything that has a risk of bad things, an example in Islam with Alcohol since it’s something that can make you addicted, so it’s totally haram and forbidden to even smell it.
For me, I don’t see any harm for me if I gamble time to time and enjoy. Everyone is free after all

Gambling in the eyes of religion is a sinful act from the action taken in the bible at the synagogue where the gamblers where chased away in the house of God. However, there are many religious people who now slyly gamble, they keep it away from their family and people that would complain about their decision to gamble. So to a greater extent I think the economic downturn has led more people into gambling in the search for probable money but gambling profit is not sustainable.

Well I'm a Christian and our religious laws forbid overindulgence if you take gambling as a form of entertainment and you're not going overboard with your time and you allocate the Christian doctrine will tolerate it, in the Bible it says you cannot serve two masters at the same time, if the Lord is your master then your focus and your time should be more than what you do in gambling.
As long as you never neglect your obligation as a servant of the Lord you have time for your Church and you keep your brotherhood you're not someone who circumvents the law, this is just my opinion as a Christian there are Christians who have different opinions about gambling and I will not argue with them.

I really agree with you, this topic is actually a bit sensitive because we are talking about religion and gambling, the Muslim religion strictly prohibits gambling for certain reasons and I think other religions also actually have their own rules regarding prohibitions against anything that causes sin. In fact, not only gambling, even drinking alcohol, smoking in Muslims is a haram act, but for some people, even though they are Muslims, they are still determined to do it even though it is against the rules of their religion. I don't mean to offend Muslims, but where I live, the majority are Muslims. and they still do whatever they like whether drinking alcohol, gambling or smoking because they like doing that even though it is against them but the one who bears the sin is themselves so we just need to live our lives happily. Because casinos also don't care about religious laws Muslims are not allowed to gamble because crypto gambling is done by people who want to use it only with their own money and the most important thing is not to harm other people and do not bring religion into the world of gambling.

Whether not to gamble or gamble is up to each person's decision, so even though their religion has declared it forbidden, people will still gamble. They know that gambling is prohibited but they still gamble because they say that they can still control themselves and there have been no problems with their gambling activities to date. Yes, it is each person's personal matter if they continue to gamble and other people will not be able to stop them from doing so. But people can advise them to stop gambling or place limits on their gambling games so that they don't experience any problems. One day, maybe those people will be enlightened about gambling so they can realize what they are doing. And if that happens, they will start to abandon gambling and never return at any time.

And in the end this does not lie in the issue of halal and haram, because the provisions are clear and they know it..!!! that they fully know the laws of the actions they carry out (gambling). Maybe for those who have a strong foundation of belief and adherence to things that are prohibited by religion, then of course they never decide to enter the world of gambling, in fact, such an approach is something that is impossible for them to do, because they really can't do that. they truly protect themselves from all forms of immorality and evil.

And when talking about casinos, I think casinos never force someone to visit and come to their place, casinos only provide forms of offers, the rest is up to each individual. And it's not that you shouldn't link religious issues with gambling, because after all religion is what regulates all forms of human life and daily life. It's just that in this case, not all religions do not allow gambling and not all people have a religion. We just believe what we believe and let other people believe what they believe. And if we believe that gambling is something wrong, then immediately stop this activity and never invite other people to make the same mistake.

Yes, it's true that casinos never force anyone to play there looking for entertainment or just having fun, but sometimes many people abuse the casino itself where most people start to think that the casino is a place to make money so they prefer to spend their money there just to get money. winnings or jackpots, that may be one of the reasons why religion prohibits it because they spend more time having fun in gambling places than using their money to support their families or other positive things.

In many cases, gambling causes people to get into debt, commit suicide, steal, commit other criminal acts, break up households and similar negative impacts from gambling itself, but this cannot be separated from the mindset of those who gamble for money, not just for entertainment. Of course, therefore, all mistakes lie with each individual, not with the casino entirely, even though religion only teaches its followers to limit themselves from everything that is not useful and has a bad impact on them.

But here we also can't defend anyone, everyone has the right to choose to gamble, so if you believe that religion forbids it, don't gamble, but if you believe that religion allows it, then feel free to gamble as long as the risk is borne by yourself and you can control yourself well.  :D

With its about religion, its not about controlling your emotions in gambling or similar things like that, the religion ban the gambling and you cannot justify that since you will be a responsible gambler, it is allowed for you.  People whose religion prohibits them from gambling, they are not allowed to gamble, no matter what is the situation.


Again, for the religious people, there is nothing as a personal matter. If something is prohibited in religion, they have to accept it without arguments and if they deny it or do not follow it, then it means that they are violating their religion and may be held accountable for that.
Although no one in the world will give them punishment for not obeying the religion but still they will have to give answers to their God as why they did not obey the religion.

Most of them at this age, when it comes to religious issues, really don't like gambling, and in the doctrine of the majority of the religion, they teach that gambling is bad, and this has become a habit among most of their members.

I have also planted in my mind that gambling is bad, and I agree with this teaching because gambling does not really bring anything good because the money we put into it is usually wasted unless you suddenly get lucky and win. a large amount, but this rarely happens.

Im much aware about into those certain or couple of religions who do really have that kind of treatment or views towards gambling but well lets just respect on what these religions do have
those kind of prohibitions and if we are someone whose really that under that religion then it would really be just that right that we should follow not unless if you are really that going
against into that principle then it would be your choice. Tons of people does have that kind of committing those kind of acts on which they are really that doing gambling despite of being prohibited.
This is common and casual but it turns out that not all would really be having that kind of obedience when it comes to this, well its their choice to make not ours.

In my opinion, if you're a Muslim and gambling will be a sin in your country, you shouldn't gamble so you don't get stereotype and punished for disobeying the laws of your religion. You can change religion to Christianity so you can enjoy gambling without being scared of getting criticized. Using cryptocurrency to gamble also counts as gambling as cryptocurrency are money and you'll be receiving money when you win therefore it qualifies.

Gambling isn't bad, when you over do it and get addicted that's when it's bad as it can destroy you and also affect other individuals that are around you. Your family members will get affected and it can destroy your relationship with them. If you can control yourself while you're gambling, I don't think any religions should stop you from gambling as you're not hurting anybody when you're gambling therefore it shouldn't be a sin.

The funny thing is that despite that it is condemned in the religious books but some people who preach against it still gamble in secret. I know of someone who is religious but can't control his gambling urge so he does it in secret so that people will not know about it because he tells them to stop gambling and that is deceit.


Some people that are making money from gambling will not agree with you that it doesn't bring money , that the money that goes into it is waste of money. They will see it that you are gambling in the wrong way. But really, in every adventure we take there are people who complain about it unproductivity while others benefit from it. So I believe if you take the right part in the things like gambling then we can reduce our loses and improve on our gains. But the point is to gamble as you can risk and if it is not working for you, quitting isn't a sign of weakness but a decision to be better.

The issue of haram or not and its consequences are not worldly matters, they bind the individual to his god, so this has nothing to do with the laws that exist in a country. If we talk about Muslims, AFAIK (based on what I see in my country because my country is predominantly Muslim) these gambling practitioners are aware and know that their gambling actions are haram. But in order to hide their tracks, they prefer to use crypto rather than FIAT in the form of e-money.

Gambling is not bad, it is the gamblers that are abusing it. All these religious books where all the religious laws and doctrines are enshrined were written by people to ensure that their followers be at peace with themselves and their neighbours as well. Gambling is tagged bad because people tend to take extreme measures just to gamble, especially as this lifestyle is linked to greed. It is believed that it is only greed that will motivate one to want to reap from where they did not sow, hence, all forms of unexplained money doubling schemes, including gambling are discouraged.  For this reasons,  teachings like this are passed down from generation to generation dissuading their followers from gambling.

Now, people are aware of all the implications of gambling recklessly.  Those who gamble recklessly are the bad guys giving  gambling the bad name. Those who just want to have fun  have nothing to lose and if they win , that's their luck. There is nothing wrong with responsible gambling.

As far as I know no religion in the world supports gambling. All religions consider gambling as a criminal activity. No matter what religion you belong to, your religion will never allow you to gamble. Many times religious discussions say that gambling creates financial crisis and causes many harms to people. Especially in Islam, all kinds of betting or gambling are absolutely forbidden. I am a Muslim and from my side I would like to say that although Islam prohibits gambling, thousands of Muslims are active in gambling. No matter what religion says gamblers will gamble it's normal. Not all gamblers consider gambling to be a serious crime. Rather, gambling is preferred as a source of pleasure.

This writing is about money, not gambling. And it says about serving money, while it doesn't condemn the usage and persuit of money by human beings. Solely by gambling or by looking for means to thrive financially in life doesn't mean we are serving money, but that we are making money to serve us on our needs aiming life quality and personal development.

Everything in excess and without rules ruin your spirit and lead to social and economical issues. Even good things God created can ruin us if we don't know how to use them, as they were supposed to be used in first place. Sex is an example of that.

Free individuals should make use of their free will to walk through the paths which will bring healthy and uplifting consequences for their lives, without becoming slaves of religions, which have as goal to shear the natural inclinations of the spirit, through the dogmas they perpetrate on people's minds. These dogmas just kill the natural inclinations of the spirit for self-realization, while at same time we don't even have sure if such dogmas are really demanded by God.

It’s funny how the human mind often finds a justification for just about doing the wrong thing under some ethics or rules.
Am not categorically saying gambling is wrong, nope, not in my religion but, if by Muslim laws of Haram doesn’t justify gambling to be something that should be practiced by Muslims then, the context to this is in what gambling actually is and not in the currency or event being gambled upon.
Should you be making stakes in bets with hopes of a win or a lose, you’re actually gambling and that ends it.

Now, these laws or rules to gambling might have been some means to avoid its faithful from being compromised or violence and other vices that might be associated with the practice when not done responsibly but, it ain’t wrong. If you can regulate yourself, you’re good but, the law wouldn’t look it at that way though.

I think we humans would always seek out and do whatever pleases us despite having to face the harsh judgement passed down by society if found out.
Gambling is no different. There are various cultures and religions that frown upon gambling as an activity to partake in. That hasn’t stopped some people from such cultures and religions from gambling.
Crypto along with online casinos has made it easier to be more private in your gambling activity hence attracting gamblers who would rather keep their activities secret.

Being mentally stable, we’re all aware of what’s good and what’s bad. Religion shouldn’t dictate how anyone should live their lives.

It's funny how this chaos would have total control over people's lives, properties, well-being, personal choices and space, relationship, attitude etc... how it's condemning some certain tribe, nation or group of people that chose to live outrightly and specifically by their own discretion... That's exactly why I chose not to believe innit.. to me, there's nothing like RELIGION - It's diversity has forged in so many problems and has arisen to many tribal wars too.

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IMHO, except they really wanna abide by their laws, they shouldn't be any reason why a person from any tribe or religion should be abstaining from gambling. If they're making off some cool money from it, why not go ahead?

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In fact, if we relate it to any religion or belief, especially the one most widely believed in by the world community.  there are many prohibitions, which do not allow it, not only gambling, crypto, and others like that. If someone is based on what he believes and what he adheres to, let's respect it with tolerance. however, if this is the case, it means that a person must comply with all prohibitions and not just gambling. So, we will not hold ourselves to double standards. "for those who adhere to their religion".

Talking about gambling, gambling has been found since ancient times in almost every corner of the world and one of the things that is often discussed is from ancient China. Gambling has evolved from era to era, traditional ones have changed with the advancement of time and technology, as well as human resources themselves. In this era, gambling has become part of instant entertainment amidst the glittering life of a metropolitan city. what are the benefits, yeah to entertain visitors. however, this type of entertainment is quite risky and expensive.

Now, the digital era and technology dominate the market. however, in principle, gambling in the current era is more of a type of entertainment but has risks involved. If we relate it to belief or religion, believe me, the discussion will never end, even in debate. after all, we are humans who always break the rules. In essence, it all comes down to each individual assessing gambling from their point of view. if it is negative, then what comes to mind are bad things. But if it's entertainment, then what you think about is something that entertains. Regardless of winning or losing, gambling houses, online casinos, never tell us to be directly involved in gambling. So, just enjoy it if you like this activity without harming anyone. on the contrary, ignore it as far as possible if it is detrimental. yeah, it's that simple.

i guess, it all boils down to how strong is your belief to abide the laws and protocols of your religion. because the truth is, it is your own volition if you will sincerely follow such beliefs and live with it. for me, as long as you are not harming anyone, there's nothing wrong in having some kind of fun from time to time in gambling. after all, those written "laws" were just created by man. and so for me, it is just a bias understanding of how you want to live your life by setting some standards.


thus, when you found yourself to be in the gambling world, it means, one way or another, you are breaking some of your religious beliefs, that is, if you happen to have a religion. but if you think you are not doing anything wrong as you live your life, then, there's nothing to worry. just make sure you are responsible for the consequences that you are about to take.

Crypto gambling and religious restrictions damnnn finally there is a thread that discussed about crypto gambling and religion

I am Muslim and gambling is prohibited and it is already written down in the holy Quran Crypto itself is still debated by Muslim scholars, some say that crypto is halal in certain tokens/coins, and some say it is haram too.

but you can say that I am not a devout Muslim. and the money earned from gambling is haram and I saw several articles that, for example, if I win from gambling, I have to donate all the winnings to those who need it more, because even 1 cent is still haram money.

Now I do gamble for fun only and

I committed many sins including the do gambling and I am aware of that.  :'(

Yes, it should be like that, but the reality is that people already know that their religion prohibits gambling, but they still gamble. They argue that they can control themselves while gambling and they also don't use a lot of money and only use gambling for fun. It will be up to them because everyone will be responsible for their actions.

People who obey the laws of their religion will not want to try things that are prohibited by their religion, including gambling. They can differentiate between what is permitted and what is prohibited by their religion. They know that they will be held responsible later, so they don't want to take any risks. After all, they already have other things that can also give them pleasure. Whatever they do, it will be their responsibility, so they will do things that should not be prohibited by their religion and distance themselves from things prohibited by their religion.

Do you still doing gambling? By any chance, I just want to know if you donate the money you won to those people who are more in need? since you said that it is stated in your holy qouran that it is haram, and even if you are not a devout muslim, do you still follow what is stated in the qouran? Now I know, that's why I know other muslims who's every time they win, they give away the money they won or they buy important things instead of saving the money itself, maybe you have the same reasons.

Of course religion also prohibits it, this is not without reason behind this prohibition. Because let alone gambling, even overeating, religion strongly discourages it. What is clear is that religion prohibits gambling, because gambling can cause harm, which can not only harm oneself, but also the people around it who will be affected. And it's enough here for us to discuss religion and gambling, because these are rules and regulations that cannot be changed by humans. And of course, as ordinary humans, we cannot justify what is haram and vice versa. And we cannot justify gambling, just because we like it and feel happy when playing it.

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And now let me talk about this. This is regardless of any religion that prohibits gambling. It is not gambling that is wrong, but we are the ones who are wrong in understanding gambling itself. We think that gambling can make us rich and that gambling can multiply the wealth we have. Which ultimately encourages us to behave carelessly by betting with all the money and wealth we have. And that carelessness also leads us to a loss that we regret. So without needing to link gambling to any religion, if it is not done well, then gambling will only cause losses.

I don't think the discussion is meant to point fingers and oust those who are found to gamble but as a smart discussion to draw the line between what's halal and what's haram in the Muslim Religious' context. Like for example a lot of these aforementioned Muslims gamble using crypto and are using crypto for other stuff that they would otherwise consider "haram" since it's not explicitly stated in the Quran and by their Sheikhs to be specifically illegal or whatnot. There's a healthy discussion to be had in this case, and I think knowing what it really falls under is something that they need to get a hold of as soon as possible so they can be prepared for when crypto really sinks its claws in our society.

Personally, and I know this doesn't mean that much since it doesn't come from someone of Islamic descent, but I think the use of crypto to facilitate such acts that you guys would otherwise claim to be "haram" is still considered haram regardless. It's like using a different currency, like the peso instead of the dollar, which at the end of the day renders you still liable to the consequences of such acts that are against your belief system. Would you eat pork bought using crypto? I don't think so. Would you work on hours of praying if you're getting paid in crypto anyway? I don't think so as well. It's just that easy to understand.

Bruh.. what's considered haram is the act of gambling and the games, not the balance you use to play. Even if you bet on something other than money, it's still considered haram in Islam, and probably in other religions too.

Many people violate religious prohibitions these days, either out of boredom or because sinful things seem more enjoyable. If you find yourself getting too deep into the dark side, it might be time to start considering a balance between religious devotion and a life filled with sins.

When you say that something is Haram, then it is Haram. And whoever acts and does the sinful deeds will have to pay for its consequences in the life hereafter. This is not so simple that your religion prohibits gambling and you start to find excuses to make it lawful. If you belong to a religion that prohibits gambling like Islam, then even if the state allows gambling or you find the majority of the people to gamble, it does not become an excuse for you to gamble also.

If a handful of people do not gamble only because their religion prohibits it, then it is good for them in the world after this and it will make their life peaceful and also they will be blessed ones. The religion is the most important thing but very few people realize this in this modern digitial world.

As always, a sensitive topic if it's related to religion. It's always about the division of people and beliefs if it's going to be regard on this matter.

The popular opinion is going to be it's always against the teachings of any religion. But anyone can start a religion nowadays and make their own belief that shall be followed by its followers.

But for the peace of mind someone, you do what you want to do without thinking if it's allowed or not. So, basically it is you that's going to judge your actions whether they're good or bad.

Crypto is a currency and it serve as a medium of exchange I think and in Islam, using currency to gamble is really bad and a sin before God, there is no way that justify it as a good practice. Gambling doesn't have to be a involvement of currency in Islam before it can be consider as a sin but even advertise it is also a sin. I have seen a Muslim person from this forum that reject a gambling signature because he feels it's sin before his creator and he is a Muslim, he is one of the forum staff I think


It's a sin in Islam to gambling. You what? Islam is a religion that is following the teaching of prophet mamad and not for Man to manipulate, if it's not allow then it's not allow.


Gambling is a sin before Allah subhana watala, there is no.way you will want to justify gambling Islam and anyone that practised it know this but God is a not a man. People who are Muslim that love gambling will gamble and nothing will happen, everyone will go and report to his creator one day.

There are several possible reasons to explain the phenomenon of religious people who gamble even though their religions prohibit it. Possible reasons why religious people gamble include:
- Lack of understanding of religion: Some religious people may be unfamiliar with their religion's rulings regarding gambling, and may find it difficult to apply them.
- Weak faith: Some religious people may have weak faith, making them more likely to commit sins.
- Psychological pressures: Some religious people may practice gambling as a way to escape from the daily life psychological pressures they are exposed to.

The abuse of gamble by gamblers has bees the main reason most persons have rather seen gambling as evil or a very bad practice but then if these gamblers were responsible enough I doubt if these people out there would see gamble I'm the worng light and give it such condemnation as it's been given now.

On religious groups the major reason gambling nis usually been something religious bodies and people are against it is because they see it as a means of getting unjustifiable wealth quickly but then they fail to understand that for a professional gambler it's actually a job and they do commit a lot to it before some of them actually turns profitable from it especially when there's some discipline alongside strategy for winning I don't think at that point it should still be seen as a get rich quick scheme without a proper from as to how such wealth was gotten because for some one who has taken a good number of years and time to build such even with gambling didn't do that just quick without hard work

Live and let to live, sort of approach.
Though, it is difficult to have such point of view on anything related to gambling when one lives in a society where it is not only stigmatized because the usual stereotypes of gamblers, but also because of religion. It would take a look at countries where there are governments which take a formal stand when comes to region and adopt one as their official one. Saudi Arabia comes to mind, so does Indonesia.
I suppose that in the end of the day, all is good as long as one is not hurting anyone, though some religious leaders will argue we are hurting ourselves when we engage in gambling.

Indeed a very difficult topic for a lot of people to agree on, since I am against totalitarian ideas and I believe in free will, I stand with the same ideas you stand by.

No, dude. Haram is specific to Islam. But there's other religions out there with differing perspectives on gambling.  For example, gambling is not strictly prohibited in Christianity or Judaism. And, as far as I know, in Buddhism as well.


We can't assume all people buy into a faith.  Plenty of folks don't belong to some formal religion or feel beholden to religious rules.  For them, sin might not carry the same meaning as it does for people who strictly follow a certain religion.

We can't discuss gambling related to religion here as everyone has a different opinion about this and the cycle will just never end. Let's just put it simply that there's no 100% perfect religion where everyone will follow their respective things to be followed. In most parts of the world, people are exposed to gambling regardless of their religion that's why there's always a chance that these people will do gambling even if it's not allowed in their religion.

Same as how people treat liquors, drugs and other considered sin activities.

Just respect is all we need when it comes to this type of subject.
We don't need to brand anyone based on his religion, because all religion are all just created by man.
So each one has their own beliefs, and so their way of living. This is why we need to respect each individual on this matter.
If we are against their beliefs, then just avoid mingling with them. Mind your own business. As long as they are not forcing you to live with their beliefs.

Yes, that's still what matters on this topic.

As long as you don't step on any feeling of other people then that's what you have to be mindful of. As long are you're not hurting them and you are minding your own thing, there should be no problem at all.

So, you do you and do what makes you happy. If you are aware that there are some punishment whether while you're living on this world or after life, you deal with it on your own.

Based on my understanding it is undoubtedly that gambling is haram on their beliefs and we should respect that belief. I am not a Muslim guy but I haven't heard here in our locality wherein they were involved in gambling activities or even online I didn't see one so far. With crypto gambling we really have no idea what religions are involved on there but it is their own decision and risk to do such activities.

Gambling is haram, but people still gamble because they don't see it as haram. After all, according to them, it is a pleasure like any other pleasure. We can't say much about this because it will depend on each person. If they know that gambling is haram but they still gamble often, that's up to them and whatever reasons they say, it still depends on the judgment of those who gamble. We also cannot force them not to gamble because it is haram. After all, that is a decision they have taken and they should be able to take responsibility for it later.

I guess that we will see that some or just a little number of them that does it for their own satisfaction. Not judging with any of them but in every religion, there's like the black sheeps that are in that form.

It's a small herd and that's why the respect must be there for the majority because in every religion, the number are just few to those that are not dedicated in following their laws.

I am confused, they knew it that it is haram but they gamble because they don't see it as a haram. I think these are the people that I am talking about as the blacksheeps.

Exactly! , its not that we are depicting their religion, but let's be honest, some people or most of the people out there that do have their own religion sometimes do the things that are forbidden in their religion. Yes,  it is stated in their religion beliefs that this thinc is bad or forbidden, but according to human nature, they will tend to do things as they can't control themselves and they can't fight the urge. And gambling is one of them. Like the OP said, gambling is forbidden in their religion, but they still do it. Why? It's because they can't control themselves, and let's face it, not all people could be as disciplined as the other members of their religion. What should they do? Make it a secret. Yes,  maybe the god or the person they are worshipping might see what they are doing, but we can't do anything about our own desires or decisions. If we decide not to follow religion, then it is. The same goes for gambling. As long as we can't control ourselves, even if we stay in the religion that gambling is forbidden, we will still do it.

Some are true to their faith while the others are not, and seriously in our locals there's a lot of Muslims that are into gambling and due to a not so strict policy or not a strict implementor, they are able to do such kind of activities even if its not allowed based on their faith. I guess they are all humans that can fall into a trap of gambling and there's no religion can be safe from this, because gambling can be done by anyone depends on their willingness to gamble.

I have personally known several Muslims who have violated haram. In my opinion it is not about cryptocurrencies that help them to circumvent gambling bans, but about their unwillingness to follow the rules that they agree with on the one hand, but when it comes to them they do not follow them. In my opinion, the strength of faith is different for everyone and religion is not able to completely limit a person in something. This applies not only to Muslims but also to other religious denominations.

For this problem basically depends on each person's faith in religion, I am also an Islamic person and gambling is strictly prohibited, maybe it is true that my faith is not so good at this time, why then I want to stop at a certain age in gambling. And again the environment is basically rejecting, I myself am more closed to the environment that does not know me in terms of gambling.

I agree not to associate it and assume that any logic in making gambling a good thing in the view of religion, I think there will be no view that can change that, and for religious people depends on their faith in religion.

While i am not by any means expert, definition of currency and reasoning in these stuck in my head, and few questions raised in my head.

1. If currency isn't needed for gambling. How can one gamble without something that can be considered as currency? Or do we have different definitions for iit? Because most of the things in life can be used as a currency, even coins you collected in a game that you can use buy virtual stuff for your game. Those can sometimes be sold for real money. In fact it's hard to imagine anything, that couldn't be in some cases traded against money, and used as a currency.

2. Definition of gambling: It seems that while gambling itself is considered to be haram, the definition of gambling varies everywhere and with every game, and some tournaments with entry fees seem to get a pass. So what's the deal with this? Or should we just accept that there's as much religions as there is people and scholars, and that everyone has their own viewpoint on this? Because it rarely is as black as white with religions. They have been have been used to justify just about everything one can imagine, because rules are ancient, and tied to old culture. Transferring them to modern times make them more or less ambigious and matter of matter of interpretation without enough data.

It is a sensitive topic because there are so many different religions in the world now. And one religion might not understand the other because of their different beliefs, rules, and other critical writings on their own Bibles.
Correct, it's on us if our actions are good or bad.
I do remember one religion where it's prohibited to drink alcohol because it will mess up their mind and they might do bad things afterward or if they get drunk. One of their members is a friend of mine and he still drinks with me. According to him, it's still up to the person if he will control himself or not, sure it's prohibited in their religion but it doesn't really say to not drink at all.
Keep it in moderation. That's his view of the rules that were made. I do believe him because I have never ever seen him do crazy things after we drank the whole night. He is always composed and actually, he is the one taking all our friends back home if they are drunk.
Again, this discussion is critical so I guess it should be up to the person on how he will follow it. Avoid it if there's a chance but if not then keep it under control.

I get what you're saying about how strong someone's faith is kinda depends on the person.  And yeah, religion doesn't always stop people from doing stuff they shouldnt.  but I kinda think cryptocurrencies make it harder for some folks to stick to their beliefs. and  These things are decentralized and anonymous, right? So it's easier for someone to gamble without getting caught or told off by their community. 

Now sure, there's lots of Muslims who use crypto in a responsible way that lines up with their religion.  But we should admit that this stuff poses unique challenges for religious folks trying to walk the walk.

Yes, those who are aware of what rules are permitted and not permitted in their religion should be able to make their own decision whether to continue doing it or not, some people don't really care about their own beliefs because they are too happy and ignore religious matters with personal interests. so they continue to do whatever they like without relating it to their beliefs, as long as they feel satisfied with their life and continue to do what they want, they will continue to do it (gambling).

Of course, every casino is not authorized to involve the religious beliefs of its customers because all they want is to make a profit and happily serve the people who visit and gamble at their location.
It is true that religion regulates every human life, but not everyone adheres to their respective religious beliefs when it comes to personal pleasure and in fact this happens a lot around us.

No need to be confused. That is human. They clearly know that it is haram but they still gamble. That's because the temptation of gambling can make them forget for a moment about the rules of their religion. And they even say it's okay, especially if you win. Apart from that, we also cannot force them to leave gambling because they desire to continue gambling. We can only give them advice and then it's up to them because they are the ones who live it.

Yes, those are the people who still gamble even though gambling is prohibited in their religion. They don't want to leave gambling because there is an urge to make money from gambling so they will continue gambling even though they don't have a big chance of winning. If it is their wish to continue gambling, we can only leave it to them and that is their responsibility in gambling. The important thing is that they know that gambling cannot always make money, but they will experience a lot of losses. This is what they are aware of, so even though their religion prohibits gambling, it doesn't mean anything to them because they want to continue gambling. We just let them choose and they should also be aware of the consequences.

Definitely gambling is a moral based choice and activity. When it comes to gambling as a value, it is perceived as a wrong act simply because a majority of people see it as one.
As for the religious aspects it is unethical to blame a religion against gambling , although a majority of them are against it.

Although gambling is a moral choice, a person who worships under a religion against it is not expected to gamble. This is because if he does he is not a person of that religion but rather someone who cloaks himself under the religion. Besides every religion has its rules so if a person ignores them, it simply means he is not for that religion , but rather he is in pretence under that religion.

Firstly, if you just say and relate to various activities which according to all religious teachings are prohibited and haram then it is clear that many of these prohibitions are violated and are not really cared about.
Not only gambling, but consuming alcoholic drinks, free sex, and narcotics are all prohibited for all existing religions because religion teaches virtue and also the philosophy of living with love for God and carrying out the various recommended religions.
But in reality, many people violate all of this out of mere satisfaction and of course this is mistake if it is judged using religious teachings and regulations prohibiting religious people.
We can only remain good people by not harming other people, even if we do some prohibitions, but if it doesn't harm other people then just do it because whatever the consequences, only we ourselves will accept it.
If you really think it all mistake that needs to be fixed then leave everything behind, never try again to do anything that is clearly prohibited.

We live in modern times and when many religious prohibitions are violated it has become habit that cannot be avoided.
In gambling, we ourselves decide to start and if we can't accept it then just do what we think is right.

I am not a Muslim but haram is haram and every Muslims shouldn't be gambling at all, it's against their religion, I know few Muslims that can't do without gambling, yet they pray five times daily, it's actually left for them to make decisions that suits their life.

Truth the told, most gamblers are not religiously strong, if we have to say the fact, you can't be religious and be a gambler, because both Christain and Muslims are to stay away from gambling, it doesn't help the spirits at all.

It's either you quit gambling for religion or you face gambling and be less religious, many still pray to God and still gambles, that includes myself, but I am good at watching over myself, always avoiding gambling addiction, which I believe it's the most important thing for everyone to do, either religious or not.

It is difficult to do these things, what I can think about this is that whenever something is done in accordance with what we like, it should not influence religions, I respect the bases of religions a lot, but if not I can see the Religions laid their foundations many years ago, even in ancient times when casino activities were frowned upon by everyone ,The conservative views of many people , in this type of things they can establish many aspects, prohibitions and a lot, I am a person who grew up with a very different religion, which does have Inhibitions , but I consider myself that 'to reach the Father is not through Religions , because for me in each religion, far below there are dark things and interests that are very given to it, in this order of ideas what we must always make evident is that we are from this world, if there are things that make us have fun, I think we should do them, as long as things are accomplished and then do the penances, for example as you say, They play and then do penance, because it is something that can be done in the most radical religions.

But in View of this there is a very Famous Relationship where I liv e, which Consists of going almost every day, singing , praising God for everything , they call themselves brothers and everything, but they have to leave 10% of their salary to the pastor, and when we see "El Pastor " he has a tremendous truck , he has a Tremendous house,  quite a few , they live as if he were famous  , but I pay 10% of each person's salary because the pastor sets himself up, so this becomes very Politicized at that level, So there are things that I don't agree with , I have another way of seeing things , for me doing good things, actions that can help others is the best, there is no Need to give money to a pastor who has no need, there is to give to those in need , to Give food , to Support Others , well that's what I see , But still , my Religion is Something that I hardly take into Consideration , I don't even go to Sunday meals because I know that many in the Vatican are much more Dark , so believing in those People is not my Thing.

Commenting about religion is still a taboo as there still are people in 21st century that takes religion seriously.
So, talking about gambling restrictions in specific religion, what we all must realize is the original text of any religious books are interpreted in different ways throughout the history and many rulers and religious leaders had influenced, omitted and explained it according to their thoughts.
Talking about Islam itself, there are many tales, stories and recorded history that described the role of gambling in a islamic society and considering it a haram is a fairly new interpretation.
Talking about current Saudi enforced rules, gambling in any form is forbidden, so is riba. That would make most of crypto related activities along with gambling to led you to hell.

There are reasons why a person joins a religion and if they want to belong to that organization or religion, they have to obey the rules and laws that's being said on them. One thing is what we see, there are a lot of pretentious people and at the same time, they're hypocrite. They're making themselves look like saint but they gamble and that's against to their belief. It's a topic that many don't want to discuss but it is interesting when you people's thought about gambling and religion and IMO, we'll see more of topics like this in the nearest future.

Religion is still dominant around the globe while their stance on gambling is still the same negative. I agree that we should not brought up this topic casually because it might involves someone’s faith in question which we should respect.

I believe that separation of religion should have a line drawn in regards with gambling restriction discussion because it’s not about a normal but rather a serious matter to someone that has a belief to higher beings. There’s a lot of topic that can be discussed here about gambling that will not gonna involved religion.

As someone who is old enough, we should know what is good and what is bad, what is permitted and what is prohibited, what we should do and what we should avoid. Likewise, when talking about gambling, without having to link it to religion, if you consider that gambling is a detrimental activity, then immediately stop the activity and promise not to go to or visit a casino again. In this case, it is not gambling that is wrong, because before you were born, gambling has existed since ancient times. It's not that gambling is wrong, it's that we are wrong in perceiving and understanding gambling itself, where we often think that apart from gambling being a place to have fun, gambling is also a place to make a profit, so in the end we behave stupidly. and careless by betting beyond our financial capabilities, betting using all the money we have, where in the end a big win is not achieved, while the money and wealth we have is used up for gambling. And what do we get? all we get is a feeling of deep regret and suffering.

And if we realize correctly, that the casino only wants to make a profit from the number of bets we make. So be careful, control yourself when gambling, don't let your daily life be filled only with gambling and don't let the money you have run out just for gambling.

Majority of them would really be that negative when it comes to gambling, and this is why to those people who are believers then they would really be normally be following on whats been mandated or whats been that told. There are ones who are really that following and there are ones who arent. It would really be just that normal that you should really be following basing up on what you do believe
but if you are really just that playing for fun then i dont see any problems with gambling. It is really just that there are ones who are really that highly overreactive when it comes to things.
It would really be always good that you should be that only basing up on with your own interest on which you arent compromising something.

The gambling was used to play with the mode of gold in the ancient times,before to the gold many used their property as their primary currency to play the gambling.After the invention of the currency many of the people uses the currency as their primary source to play the gambling.Now we are in the world of the digital currency or cryptocurrencies,So the same was considered as the source for the gambling in the real life.




The people from some of the religions was consider the gambling as the haram which mean it was against their own religion.So the true religious person will follow the rules of the religion and never take part in the haram which means to their own religion.The haram was mainly described by the religious ancestors and never most of the described by any of their own god.So some of the religious people also take part in the gambling activities.

The prohibition is often rooted in religious teachings and interpretations of sacred texts. For people who adhere strictly to their religious beliefs reflects their commitment to following the rules and principles set forth by their religious traditions. However, as with any religious practice, interpretations can vary among people and communities. While religious authorities or scriptures may explicitly label certain activities as haram, the level of adherence to these prohibitions can vary among followers.

Some religious people may choose to abstain from gambling due to their convictions, while others might not see it as a significant issue or may engage in it despite the religious guidelines. The relationship between religion and gambling is complex and varies across different faiths and their respective followers. It highlights the diversity of perspectives and interpretations within religious communities on matters like gambling.

In my country, you'll see religious people praying that they should win with their bets. And guess what? It's a normal thing and doesn't seen as something against with their faith because they'll reason out that if it's for you then it will be blessed for you. Something odd with all of the faith-based matters and at the same time, you'll still see some amazing things they do for the other people. But if it's about gambling, that's what I've noticed for all of the time that I've been living on this world, praying to hit the lotto jackpot, the team to win for sportsbetting, etc.

If we pay attention, there are many activities carried out by humans that are prohibited by religion but still do them for many reasons. It's the choice of each person who does it, and it seems like they already know it, but they don't stop doing it. We also can't force them to stop doing it because it is their choice to keep doing it, and they like it, so they still do it. Yes, we can only be good people who do not harm others or disturb others. As long as we don't harm each other, everything will be fine, and if a problem arises later because of what each of us does, it will be our responsibility, so we must be able to find a solution to solve the problem. Maybe later, they will realize what they did was wrong and try to stop what they thought was wrong. It takes awareness from them to know that it is wrong and just let them do what they want to do.

We admit that many religious prohibitions have been violated. We must reduce violating these prohibitions by being good people towards others. Later, we will be given the awareness to admit that what we did was wrong and try to change it.

Perhaps the only religion that prohibits gambling is Islam. other than that, it seems that other religions do not really prohibit gambling.
What's more, gambling is online and only uses crypto currency so if you want to gamble, no one will blame you legally. only religiously, even then, only Islam prohibits gambling.
but for the crypto currency itself there is no problem. like money wants to be used for sin or good things, it depends on the user.

Gambling is still haram, whether crypto gambling or regular gambling, if someone plays it can be considered a sin even if he gives the money to charity. But even so, there are still many Muslim brothers who gamble because they think that it is the best way for them to earn money quickly, especially in developing countries where many people's incomes are below standard. They have the idea that doubling their money in gambling is not a big deal and later they can give alms, pray or make sacrifices to make up for it. It's a little sad and funny to see that, but it's a fact that happened.

I think all religions prohibit gambling but most likely the most harsh one in prohibiting it is Islam.I know people from all religions who are religious and they all say that their religion prohibit gambling,even Buddist people say so.The funny thing is that these persons despite saying like that they used to play even with Fiat money as long as it was online and none of their circle knew about them gambling.Now with crypto is even easier.

Religious philosophy can't cover every single situation in life. There will always be some grey areas when something isn't explicitly forbidden. Christians will have different opinions on whether it is acceptable to gamble depending on which branch of Christianity they follow. The Bible doesn't specifically mention whether gambling is a sin. Making a friendly wager might be fine but when it becomes an addiction that negatively impacts your life, that is a problem regardless of your faith. Whether gambling is considered sinful concerns you enough, then you should seek advice from experts in your religion.

All religions must teach goodness and prevent badness. I am not talking here about Islam or other religions. surely all teachings teach like that.
But whether it's the person who doesn't really listen or defects from religious teachings, it depends on each person.
fortunately they are still not too familiar with crypto, maybe only a cursory knowledge of what bitcoin is. but if they already know more about it and recognize gambling with crypto, it will definitely be even more crowded in the world of gambling in the crypto world.

I don't think there is any excuse for the Muslim faithful to gamble. Gambling is forbidden in Islam as I know and I believe the faithful should adhere to that unless they just want to set the religion aside and do as they like. No controversy about this, it is plain, so any Muslim doing it must know that they are not completely being faithful to the religion. Well, we have our lives to live, what really matters is a good life you live that is void of evil and selfishness, once that is done, I know that God can't forsake you, religion or not.

Nevertheless, in plain terms, a core Muslim person will not gamble, but it is your choice to be a core Muslim or not.

I think Christians are bending things due to the better grace and freedom we have more than Muslims. Even with that, all I know is that the religion forbids you to do anything that will hurt you or hurt you. If gambling is hurting you, you should let go so that it will not become a sin to you.

I am not saying that I know the Bible more than anyone here, nonetheless, I will still be glad if someone can point to a place in the Bible where it is said emphatically that we should not gamble.

Gambling is hard to stop so I'm sure that he still plays it even on rare occasions only, most especially that he is not devout in their religion (as you said). If we have a soft heart, helping people is one of our things, especially if we have more money than usual. In some religions, the act of gambling is forbidden but maybe not if you will only receive a gambling winning. It's also another reason on why he is giving his winnings.

If I'm a poor person living on that country, I will still see it as a help and I will gladly accept it. If it's allowed to buy an item immediately, this will also be the first choice of the gamblers who are not that caring about the others.

If you are guided by law, religion, haram, crypto gambling, in my view that is a different matter, in my view there is no country in the world where all of the population is Muslim, including those in government.

If you look back and if I'm not mistaken, all religions forbid gambling, whether it's crypto gambling or something else, but even though the law says it's haram, it only applies to those who are religious, we have to realize that, the devil has no other job like humans, the devil only lives in this world specifically to lead people astray, no matter whether they are Muslim, Catholic, Protestant, Hindu, Buddhist and so on.

Those who gamble with money only, don't care about haram, what's more, nowadays crypto is easy to access, of course it's easier for them to carry out gambling activities.

No religion supports gambling but some religion strictly observes it and some do not. But despite this restriction, people are very interested in gambling because they try to earn money from home. Some people think that if no one else knows about their gambling then there is no problem in gambling. Moreover, with fiat, a gambler's information can be obtained, but since crypto does not have that possibility, many people have become interested in crypto gambling. People gamble despite religious prohibitions on gambling. It is a personal matter. But there is no doubt that the number of gamblers using crypto has increased a lot. Those who are directly opposed to gambling are now also gambling.

Besides Islam, no religion forbids gambling. When I say forbid I mean that none of their Holy Book states that gambling is forbidden. Islam in the Koran calls in Haram but gambling is not covered in the Bible and some other religious books. However, some religious preachers speak about gambling based on the views or perspectives they have about gambling activity. Some of them base these teachings on public opinion and political views. Most of them will always refer to gambling addiction as the reason why gambling should be forbidden but they fail to acknowledge that there are many responsible gamblers. They also fail to understand that gambling contributes to government revenue and some gambling firms also support the community. I think the focus of these religious teachings should be to discourage gambling addiction and encourage responsible gambling.

Yes, religion prohibits gambling, but people don't feel that it is prohibited. They feel relaxed when they gamble even though they know that their religion prohibits gambling. They don't want to think about the prohibitions in their religion because all they want to do at that time is enjoy the relaxed atmosphere in their free time. Gambling is a personal matter between humans and God. We also cannot judge people who gamble as sinful because we are also human, even though gambling is prohibited in religion. It will depend on each person's perception of using gambling.

Some of the religion against the gambling not all the religion against the gambling.In more specifically the Islamic religion was against the gambling,many people considered the gambling was against the religion by the Christianity community also.The more faith gamblers were involved in the gambling with trust to make the big money one day.The religious people doesn’t gamble only because of their religious opinion.They also come to know more about the some of the gambling losses,the gamblers who play the random betting in the gambling site will loss their funds for sure.The gambling is most of the time depending on the luck of the gamblers too.

Of course, religion is a guide for everyone in carrying out their activities. There are rules and recommendations for people in life. However, people's attitudes and levels of acceptance of the rules imposed by religions vary.
Even if religion prohibits gambling, do those who gamble end up having no religion? just as the government prohibits gambling activities. be it gamblers, or even gambling business people. but the government cannot immediately make people abandon gambling with these regulations. There are even clear written sanctions and punishments for violators.

there is no need to clash religion with gambling. I believe every gambler will eventually come to a time when they will quit gambling.

It would be better not to link religion with gambling, everyone has a different opinion, what is clearer is that whatever the consequences are, gamblers can accept it even though it is prohibited in religion, not only in Islam, even in Christianity too, there will be many people who violate this rule. You don't need to think too far, even in countries that prohibit gambling, there are still many people who do it, there's no need to lie

Of course, every religion prohibits things that can harm oneself or something that tends to have a bad impact on oneself. But there are always people who break these rules and it is very difficult to stop them. Stealing is prohibited in religion, but thieves always exist in this world. Adultery is prohibited in all religions, but many people do it. These are all decisions that have an impact on every individual regardless of religious rules that prohibit it. Of course there are consequences to why it is prohibited, but you can't stop it.

There are a lot of conversations in which I don't engage with people unless they bring up the topic. This is as a result of me not knowing which religion they believe in, and I'm also not a hater of any religion. As such, I won't want to get myself involved in any form of conversation that will make it look as if I'm condemning one religion and making mine look more perfect.
 
Gambling is something of choice, and to me, I feel like anyone can go into it. I have seen some Muslim friends who place bets and are also into crypto. I have also seen some Christian believers who don't engage in any of either.

The thing is, there are many people who are more religious than others, and there are people who take some of their religious teaching to the next level, which to me is up to them, and I don't even see anything wrong with that.

It is a delicate topic, I respect a lot What has to be with religion and with things that are political because there are people who get very Angry when there are others who think differently, it is something that cannot be avoided, 'that's why these issues and o I will only say that if the religion does not allow you to play, then it would be good if they did not do it, since the majority of people who are in the forum and who play are older, of age, if playing brings problems for their Religion it is it is advisable not to do so.

On the Contrary , if they do it and they have to fulfill different Penances , but if they have no other choice, my religion is flexible, I am not a fanatical person either, no, I simply believed that I had a religion and now, I know that it exists. a supreme being who created everything , life and everything , but that Doesn't stop me or Disrespect him if I have Fun , play in a casino or Something, any activity that requires attention, that's why I take advantage.

While I might not necessarily agree that all theories about gambling and religion are inherently contradictory, I understand your point about the fundamental principles at play. Many religions emphasize values like moderation, responsibility, and avoiding harm to oneself or others. Gambling, when approached responsibly and without harm, might not inherently contradict these principles.

However, it's also crucial to acknowledge the potential for gambling to lead to negative consequences, aligning with the religious emphasis on avoiding self-harm. Addiction, financial hardship, and family discord are some potential pitfalls of gambling, and religious teachings often warn against behaviors that could lead down such paths.

Ultimately, the question of whether gambling aligns with one's religious beliefs is a personal one. It's about examining the specific tenets and values of your faith, understanding your own motivations for gambling, and weighing potential consequences against the desired outcome.

It is always going to come up with the idea that each religion has their own base faith and they're not going to agree with their differences and that's why it is a very sensitive topic to talk about.

Just like what I have said that it's still going to depend on our judgement whether it's a good action or bad action. And if your faith depends on it or you think that it's fine to do so.

We're all old and grown ups to have that judgement whether a matter is fine or not.

It's very funny if someone thinks that gambling with fiat is haram while gambling with crypto currency is not haram. I once asked someone who was a Muslim about the reasons why gambling was haram in their religion, he said that gambling could trigger someone to commit other crimes because if they win or lose gambling, the player will definitely commit a sin.
Therefore, gamble as much as you can, don't let our carelessness and greed cause us to suffer losses, all religions prohibit gambling, but if you can't lose when gambling then your view of gambling in your religion will be different.

Islamic scholars differ on the permissibility of gambling. Gambling is haram in Islam but I think gambling is different in different religions there is no haram halal issue with cryptocurrency. A digital currency and gambling many countries have approved it but the government of many countries has not approved it yet. So if you want to gamble in countries where it is illegal it must be illegal. If the gambler can take his own precautions without affecting anyone then the issue of sin may be different.

Because in this current era, many people only care about government regulations and legal provisions that actually apply, not about various regulations and prohibitions, we must be able to understand that religious prohibitions are very important, but in this current era it is difficult to follow them.
Most people will only care about government laws that will clearly make them feel real punishment when they violate them, and we just need to always be good people who don't harm other people.
I think that is far more than enough and just look at the prohibitions and rules that all religions have, of course it is difficult to truly obey them so it is not surprising that religious prohibitions are very often ignored and perhaps more often violated by anyone and everyone anywhere.
I person who has religious beliefs and I live in an environment that is very tied to religion but in reality they all also violate the rules given by the teachings of that religion.
It would be very difficult if in this era we still had to continue to prioritize religious prohibitions as the main key in life.

Well, that wise attitude and when we can't really uphold various rules then at least we don't become bad people by harming other people.
When we gamble, when we lose, we feel it ourselves and we ourselves experience losses, so don't make other people feel at loss or even experience disappointment with what we do.

Yes, that's what people do when they want to gamble, where they will only check the regulations of their country even though it is clear in their religion that gambling is clearly prohibited and should not be done. But these people don't care about it and instead gamble more and more often. We also cannot blame those who gamble and violate religious prohibitions because that will be each person's responsibility. If they could realize this, there might be a drastic reduction in the number of gamblers who frequently gamble because many of them decided to stop gambling because they felt they had violated the rules of their religion. But that might be less likely because people who are already gambling have found pleasure in gambling so they will continue to gamble. And when times progress further, perhaps more people will not pay attention to this because they can get entertainment from gambling games.

And only a wise attitude that each person needs to have so that they can know what they have to do. If they still want to gamble, they will continue, but if they feel uncomfortable gambling, they will decide to stop gambling. It will depend on each person to decide. Meanwhile, we cannot force them to stop their gambling activities.

The point is not about to stop other people to gamble, but it's start by yourself. So, is your religion prohibit gambling? if yes I want to know the reason why you're still become a gambler.

I doubt it, most people don't care about the terms of services, even the casino has given a warning message if they can't accept citizen from that country, people will use VPN and access the site.

Some people accept religion because they have failed in every aspect of life and they find refugee there in religion.This though gives them a certain self esteem and they start trying their activities that maybe they did before entering a religion,namely gambling.They continue to play there as they feel the desire to do so and religion is just like a turtle house which shields them from further misjudgment from people,they do it online and in real "life" they go to church or mosque for example.

Most religious belief kicks against gambling and regardless of the guise you used in going about the act, it doesn't disprove the fact that you've actually rebel against your religious belief.

From my level of knowledge on general religious beliefs, their is a supernatural force that monitors the activities of her fellows and knows whatever they do both in the secret and the open and so using cryptocurrency as a method of gambling doesn't in any way suggest that the God you believe in doesn't see that you have gambled.

Outside of that, their is still serious argument among most religious folks regarding the topic of gambling being bad or not or if it should be practiced or not and even at the present, their are lots of religious people than still gamble publicly because of their believe system.

Yes, that is true and has happened in many places. Those who previously did not gamble finally took up gambling because they saw that there were people who could win a lot of money from gambling. They believe that they can make a lot of money from gambling, so they then start learning to gamble, especially in sports betting. Besides that, they feel they have good knowledge about the sport, so they decide to try placing bets. They also have to know that they can lose, so they have to be able to adjust the amount of their bet to the money they can afford. In the end, because they get pleasure from gambling, they forget their religion, which prohibits gambling, and instead gamble more often.

well, talking about religion and gambling, here in my country, new churches with strange names keep appearing and each new church that has emerged here in my country, are always radical churches that consist of brainwashing people. . Man, it's unbelievable how a person who enters those churches in just a few days can change so much, I had a person who I talked to a lot, he was a person who watched movies, played a lot. He was someone who had a life in the real world, he was someone who never stopped playing. He always set aside time to play, but one day he entered one of those strange churches that are being created almost every month in my country.

After he entered this church, the guy became a different person, he started to hate gambling, he said it was a thing of the devil. I kept arguing with him and trying to convince him that he was wrong and that he was being deceived in the church and that gambling was not the devil's thing, it was something created by people with good intentions. but the guy had already been brainwashed and didn't accept it, the guy stopped watching movies, the guy stopped playing games, the guy started to dress strangely, the guy only talked about his church, he was so alone keep talking about church that I was forced to stop talking to him and to this day I don't talk to him, it's been more than 5 years and still the guy hasn't changed at all. he continues to dress very strangely. My brother has been telling me that he's still the same church fanatic. That's why I advise people to be very careful with certain churches

I will just say that everybody have their own beliefs but the interesting part is that many others don't give a fuck about what they are doing and what people are saying to them.
Some reasond why some few gamblers are going astray in gambling is because they are pursuing winning and they also wants to recover their loses, but it is difficult to do so that is why many of them ended up losing everything that they have.
Many people don't want to make their own research in what gamble is about that's why someone can come from anywhere and tell them lies about gambling, that gamble is from hell.
Although, no one's knows who's doing the right thing and who's doing the wrong thing but I think is better for one not to use the opportunity that they have to spoil another man's business.

It's a little crazy with some Christian churches (which I assume you're also referring to) and how much money they will try to drain from poor people's wallets.
They'll sell them supposedly holy amulets, holy water, cures for diseases even sometimes... Truly this is doing much damage in places like Africa and South East Asia where Christianity is still growing.
Many churches also demand tithing, giving 10% of one's income to the church, which is a whole other level of scam.

Funnily enough these churches will often be adamant about how it's important to avoid vices like gambling, while they're oftentimes the single most powerful force of destroying people's lives.
At least with gambling people have some remote chances of being winners and getting back home with some cash at hand.
With churches people are told that they must bear all the responsibility of being poor, and still give back to the church.
Oftentimes these "new" churches also do nothing in terms of charity, they just enrich their founders.

All in all, just better to gamble than join a "new" church imho. Better to do neither but one is clearly worse than the other ;D

I don't think such person are religiously strong to their faith, because you would be surprised what people can do just to uphold their beliefs. In my country where religion is taking seriously people tend to overcome even huge winnings that might influence them into gambling. Although some folks can actually be lured like you said by people winnings and then even become more worse than the actual person they followed.

There are other religions that, when it comes to gambling, are very strict on this matter because they think that it is a bad habit of a gambler that can ruin an individual's life. Which, after all, I understand, is true.

Gambling can be an instrument for us to become bad people if we don't use it correctly, which may lead to the destruction of ourselves, family relationships, and relationships with our close friends. I just don't know in other religions it is restricted in their beliefs, because in Islam, as far as I know, it is not a bad habit, if I am not misunderstanding.

Each place will be different, and there will be people like that, especially as this may also have something to do with different habits in each place. They do take religion seriously but they also engage in gambling activities and some even admit that they gamble in their free time. And it does happen, but we can say it doesn't exist because we don't know. Some people will gamble excessively so that their lives become worse than other gamblers, but they continue their gambling activities as if the bad things are nothing to them. They are still able to survive, and they still carry out their religious activities regularly.

Most christians say gambling is a sin but do not try to figure out why such a harmless act is consider a sin (by calling it harmless, I’m not saying it isn’t not a sin, but looking at its nature). One of the reasons is that it brings greed. Now, greed is where the sin comes in. It is almost impossible that you gamble, and not exhibit the act of greed. I guess it’s the same for Muslims as they are not so different from Christianity.

We often see the negative impact of people who are addicted to gambling on the environment and their families. People will be addicted and will be greedy. They will lose time to earn money and spend time with their family. A gambler can also become a thief and a cheater if he is addicted and does not get a single penny for spinning the lucky spin. I think Islam sees it as something dangerous and can have a big impact on the environment and most people.

Not everyone can stop gambling. Not everyone can see a game as just a game, so they place bets in it and hope that it becomes one of their sources of income.

I know this discussion is very sensitive for everyone and religion is everyone's privacy. But I think people who are addicted to gambling have a big loss in their lives.

If you look at the Christian ministers and their lifestyle in my country, you will notice that they own cars that are far more expensive than the average citizen's car. Is this not greed? Most of the ministers of the church are no different from the average person in their habits. They have all the same temptations and I am sure they themselves do not observe religious precepts. Personally, I am not going to give up gambling because of someone else's opinion.

Greed of any form is a sin. It doesn’t matter if the minister is from any country or if he has a direct connection with God or not. God as I know doesn’t look at who is doing the wrong thing to decide if it’s wrong. As for gambling, it’s okay to gamble but just don’t be greedy when you do it. Aside religion, it has negative effects on people. That’s just my opinion (not compulsorily the case).

I know I'm probably going to offend some people with this comment but religion is mans way of dealing with death.  There's thousands of religions and every single one of them claim that they are the "one true religion/one true god".  What a bunch of malarkey.   

If they are so concerned about hiding something from their religion, than why are they Muslim to begin with?  This is where I just find religion to be ridiculous.  I spent the first 18 years of my like growing up catholic.  I don't need them telling me what to do. 

But yes, cryptocurrency just makes it easier to gamble in general.  Was a game changer for me.

Almost all religions that are widely adhered to by humans have principles that prohibit and require their adherents not to get involved in and avoid all forms of gambling. However, when it comes to the decision to be involved in gambling or not, it is up to each individual, this is a personal choice and can be influenced by each individual's religious beliefs.

However, it would be wiser if you were able to follow the principles taught by religion and you must be able to obey them and respect them. Because this is related to your balance and spiritual capital. Therefore, for any individual who adheres to a religion, I suggest considering the impact of gambling on your beliefs and principles.

For now Yes I do gamble but do only for fun and sometimes I use money from the welcome bonus or I just play gamble with fake coins that some of the gambling sites provide.

I donate but not all of them maybe like some of it. However maybe in the long run I will quit gamble or I just play with fake coins like now. I also have Muslim friends who gamble but when they win most of them just throw away their money for parties or anything like that.

Anway other than Muslim is there any religion that prohibited Gamble? I'm just curious

Yes, it will be up to each individual and it can be seen how they choose. They already know that religion prohibits it but they still gamble even though they already know about it. And that will be the responsibility of each individual who still does it. This is the same as other things that are also prohibited by religion but they still do or use them. It is their choice and no one can force it unless they know their religion prohibits it.

Maybe those who still gamble think gambling is entertainment and they don't gamble too often. They think that they can still control themselves and not be triggered to gamble excessively. That is their choice too. We should return it to each individual to choose.

I think that people who are religious and believe in God are more likely not to start gambling and lead their lives to constant problems. It's just that such people won't even enter the casino because they believe it's evil. Although in my opinion everything is fine if moderately, without fanaticism. And gambling is a good antistress if you play a little and do not expect winnings from the game, but perceive gambling as a waste of money for fun.

I think custom and traditionals speaks more often compared to religion. Like in some countries, a lot of traditions dislike the idea of gambling as it seems to them as irresponsible acts that can disrupt their way of life. If speaking from the side of religion, you will find out that most religious persons don't even obey such rules any more. Both Christians and Muslims laws are against gambling but percentage of people found gambling are of both religions. It all depends on the persons own belief. If he thinks that he's going against his religious beliefs then he will stay away but if he feels that it's not a sin then he will gamble without thinking twice. Gambling shouldn't be something we debate on weather religion or not. If we take it as it was define, that is as a means of having fun. I see no reason why we shouldn't gamble.

There will be no proper argument about that. Aside from that topic being unethical to talk about or discuss, especially between gambling and religion, the cycle of repeated arguments will never end since the source of all responses will based on people's respective religions.

To make it short, just follow our religion's view towards gambling be it as an official law or a traditional approach. If planning to do something that is against the religion's book, then just make sure to be ready for consequences. In today's generation of gambling, we will notice gamblers from different religions regardless if gambling is prohibited or not based on their respective religions.

The gambler who had huge interest towards the gambling will not consider about the religion and they never say no based on the religion.In the Islamic community it’s hard to accept the gambling.Still some of the people from Islamic also do the gambling without the knowledge of their friends in secret.The most devoted religious person of the Muslim community will follow the rules of their religion,but I had come across some of the Muslim even lend the money for the interest.Interest also against the religion belief,So gambling also against the religious beliefs.The playing gambling was based on the individual mindset.

From this I guess religion can't hold someone from gambling. That's obvious because we cannot say now that religious people don't gamble. Because like I said before, percentage of people who gamble are religious and if religion is to restrict people from gambling, then maybe there will be a few gamblers, which I don't think will be possible.
All that matters is how you see and think about it. If I don't have a belief that what I'm doing is wrong then that's for me as it won't be a sin. I've seen some Muslim friends who goes out together to play on some bet store. Although, their religious leader will not be able to tell if they are into such act but if these persons had seen it as a sin then maybe they might have never started gambling in first place.

Even though a gambler knows that he has carried out activities that are contrary to religion by entering the world of gambling, if someone is already addicted or has a hobby of gambling, in my opinion such reasons cannot stop his gambling activities and it is possible that he will continue to do it until he feels bored and tired.
Because if a gambler is happy and comfortable with his activities then whatever the reason or whatever the reason is, he cannot make him aware or stop him unless he truly understands the impact of risks and deviations in religion.

It is interesting and hard to understand where religion, gambling, and cryptocurrencies all come together. Muslim countries have strict rules about gambling or don't allow it at all. However, people may be able to gamble secretly with cryptocurrency.

In Islamic banking, you can't gamble or charge interest. Some people, even experts, might have different thoughts on what these ideas mean. Since cryptocurrency activities are private, it is hard to keep track of and regulate them without a central authority. Persons could gamble this way without drawing attention to themselves or going against their faith beliefs.

It may be against Islamic Sharia to use cryptocurrency for gaming in some ways. We could closely examine where the money comes from and what people do to win Bitcoin in games or bounty hunts.

Muslims may have different ideas about these things, and some may not like Bitcoin games. As communities change, people fight about how well money, technology, and faith can all work together.

How people of different religions deal with gambling issues shows how they mix faith with modern life, which is different from some Christian communities.

The Islamic religion itself prohibits drinking and gambling. gambling here in the sense of activity. So any form that leads to gambling is definitely prohibited. Whether you use fiat or crypto, it's still gambling. Even banks now have sharia banks that prioritize Islamic sharia systems. and it is actually intended for Muslims, but even if you are not Muslim, you can still use it.

So the point is that it is not just gambling in fiat that is prohibited, but all activities that involve gambling. In this case it depends on each individual. want to follow the directions of the Islamic religion or deviate from its teachings.

The contrast is stark: Islamic banking emphasises ethics over profit and bans gambling and interest. The rising world of cryptocurrency offers a maze of options, including gambling, challenging these old norms

Gambling can coexist with a healthy, balanced lifestyle if done carefully and within fair limitations. Self-control and moderation are important. Blockchain-based gambling allows people to gamble without social stigma or religious conflict. Instead of breaking religious rules, we're integrating new technologies into our lives while respecting culture. We must be open to debates about how faith, finance, and technology may coexist in an ever-changing world to create a healthy balance that respects both historical and modern perspectives

 Islamic religion is highly respected worldwide, much like Christianity. Among adherents, Muslims are particularly known for their commitment to their faith. In today's rapidly changing world, technology has become pervasive, transforming many aspects of our lives from physical to digital.

If a religion prohibits gambling but its followers are technologically savvy and enjoy exploring new methods, it may be challenging to prevent them from doing so. Ultimately, the extent to which individuals adhere to religious teachings depends on their reverence for their religious leaders and their commitment to following commandments.

Understand the system, and do everything to cope with the system at all cost. We become who we are today because we have quite different targets to meet up in life, we don't have the tendency to explore more than our limits, we're in existence for survival. An addicted gambler knows what he's doing, he goes into the system with his full chest and at the end of the day, he ends up either in massive profits or heavy losses. Gambling is not for everyone, we know how this space operates, always favors those that are steadily wagering on the game and patient enough for their time.

With current technological developments, everyone can maintain the privacy of their gambling as long as they do it online, not by going to a gambling place, because online gambling, everyone can play as long as they don't play in public places, of course people won't know about it and whatever their religious background, no one will know about it. However, for those who are committed to the rules of their respective religions, they will certainly obey the rules in their religion and for those who think this is normal as long as we can still control ourselves, gambling will continue to play and they will set limits. themselves depending on their beliefs in their respective religions.

It's very difficult to explain when you enter the realm of religion, because this is very sensitive for certain groups of people. As far as I know about Islamic law, gambling is haram. If someone who adheres to Islam still gambles regularly, that is a matter between him and his God. Crypto is a tool, just like fiat money. As long as it is not used for activities that conflict with religious teachings, it is permitted. But if it is used in a place that is contrary to religious teachings, it is not permitted.

Government regulations will be much more real and can be felt if they are violated because the laws that will apply will also be in accordance with the provisions in the law, this will be very different from laws or prohibitions in religion.
Moreover, many people will continue to violate it because in reality prohibition or rule is made to be broken and no one can avoid it.
In government regulations that clearly have real punishments, there are still many people who are negligent and violate them, especially regarding religious laws that will only be given consequences based on their respective beliefs.
In the country I live in and even in several other countries, gambling is an activity that is prohibited and has many quite strict rules, but in reality there are still many of us who are gambling fans and we can still freely access gambling sites because there are several individuals who receive special taxes for gambling.
The prohibition on gambling is just written prohibition and all of this will continue to happen forever so that gambling becomes an activity that cannot be completely avoided by everyone in all countries.

Gambling will not always be detrimental and will not always make other people feel the impact because it all depends on the attitude have in implementing gambling.
Whether it good or bad depends on the mindset and how the gambler himself has sense of responsibility and care for himself.

Religion doesn't say much about gambling and, I will continue to say this I don't see anything wrong with gambling does that think gambling is bad is not even by force it is a matter of choice you don't want to gamble then don't gamble. and continents like Asia and many more gamble a lot and sometimes not even about the money but sometimes for the fun of it you see families everyone gathered and gambling. and some people will make funny topics about how gambling is bad and nobody should gamble. and what if I win a jackpot from gambling and I decide to give them money let's see if they will collect or they will reject it. there is nothing in the law that says you should not gamble. and fun plus money because just trying to predict a game to win money does not look like a sin to me.

that's right as you said. Even in Islam it's not the money that matters. Whether you use money that is legal in that country or use crypto, gambling is still illegal. If someone has a religion, especially Islam, it is their own personal matter and their sins are also their own responsibility. What is clear is that religion prohibits this.

That is why the government tries to tighten its regulations if the government is a country that prohibits gambling so that people don't play. But even though there is a ban, it doesn't stop people from continuing to gamble, especially those who are used to gambling, who will look for underground casinos. And this underground casino will always be busy with people who want to gamble secretly. They are not afraid of the ban and still visit the casino because they are very used to gambling at the casino. And there is some protection from corrupt authorities to protect casinos from being tracked by authorities in their efforts to enforce regulations and laws. And the existence of physical casinos makes it even easier for gamblers to gamble because they can play from home without anyone knowing, so the ban is just a ban that doesn't mean anything to them because they don't visit physical casinos either.

As long as people can use gambling as entertainment, they will not experience any problems or impacts. But what happens is that people think about making money from gambling so that's what gets a lot of people into trouble. And the number of people will increase if they do not have self-control and a sense of responsibility towards themselves.

It is a choice of the person doing so, religion attempted to stop people from following a wrong path before scientific reasons could be found. Today it will known that addiction in gambling is a pathological condition and needs treatment and hence the religious words of gambling being a sin is still correct. It does not mean that religion is always correct but in this case it definitely was.

Now to follow it or not is the choice of the gambler. If someone tries to restrict them, and the gambler wants to play, nobody can stop the latter in this world of technology.

According to religious doctrine expecially Christianity, they believe that gambling is a sin. And the reason I see why they called it a sin is that gambling always come with a force that drives you crazy as to do unthinkable things. Emagine people who are addicted to gambling always find it difficult to pull themself out. Because it's like being possessed with something that makes you not to act normal is like a spiritual force. So not actually that al Gamblers are possessed but why they don't like it is that it is always a gradual process which you don't know where the end will lead you to.