Title: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Solosanz on June 30, 2024, 11:07:39 AM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.
If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: kryptqnick on June 30, 2024, 12:21:35 PM AI is widespread, and I believe that it will continue growing, and so will automation in general. However, that doesn't mean negative consequences for the workforce and the economy. The last World Economic Forum report (https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2023/digest/) states that automation is happening, but at a much slower pace than anticipated. The current level of automation of business-related tasks is 34%, which is significantly below the prediction of 47% automation by 2025. Also, with new technologies come new jobs and new demand, and we've seen it happen many times in the past. People just need to learn to be more adaptable and to be ready to learn new skills to get new jobs, and things will be fine.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: NeuroticFish on June 30, 2024, 12:29:49 PM 1. There are many jobs that can be automated, still, in a big number of countries it would be more expensive (for a while) to acquire robots for the job(s) than pay humans.
2. While AI can help a lot in many cases, for now, at least the AI I've encountered it pretty much has no idea what is doing (can give answers, but doesn't understand what is that or what is behind that). 3. AI has no imagination. Randomly stitching together information that's available is no imagination, sorry. On the other hand, although many don't realize that, many human tasks / jobs require some imagination. All this being said, yes, AI and robots are a threat for everybody who is doing repetitive work, especially as the price of hardware tends to decrease over time and wages tend to go up. But imho most of the people smart enough to have found this forum... AI and robots are not a problem, they're more a tool; at least for the next 5-10 years from now. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: WillyAp on June 30, 2024, 12:40:10 PM The backpedaling of AI products has already set in.
AI is plainly immature, way too early and way to costly. Its an advantage to those who offer products non AI. Servers non Clould which also do not deliver what was advertised. Non web3 as that is just a buzzword. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Sky_T on June 30, 2024, 12:44:01 PM In as much as the use of AI is advancing day by day, there are still some certain things and activities that will really requires the supervision of humans. The use of AI cannot take over all part of the world no matter how rapid it might grow. Also, there are still some undeveloped countries which are still advancing in technologies today. So no need for panic over the use of AI.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fiatless on June 30, 2024, 12:50:58 PM In as much as the use of AI is advancing day by day, there are still some certain things and activities that will really requires the supervision of humans. The use of AI cannot take over all part of the world no matter how rapid it might grow. Also, there are still some undeveloped countries which are still advancing in technologies today. So no need for panic over the use of AI. There was a topic discussed in this forum where Elon Musk predicted that AI will put an end to work (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472732.msg63099293#msg63099293). Watching this video has proved that many millions of jobs will be lost because of this new technology. Although this fast food is still in its experimental stage and not open to customers it shows how the future will play out. Some economists claim that that was how it was predicted that new technologies such as the internet, automobiles, tractors, etc would cause unemployment but it ended up creating more jobs. However other schools of thought believe that the job loss AI will cause will be so massive that the sector might not be able to create jobs that will reduce the rate of job loss. With customers still craving for human relationships and interaction and the cost of installing these Artificial intelligence machines I doubt if it will become popular in my country in many years. Customers still want to have discussions with humans and these tools might not be able to give humans that satisfaction. I also think that many organizations might not adopt AI because humans are creative and innovative which can contribute positively to the organization's growth. System failure can lead to disruption in AI production or service but humans can always improvise. However, workers should devise means of gaining additional skills that will make them employable if they lose their jobs. They can also seek ways of integrating AI into their task to make it cheaper and easier. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Gozie51 on June 30, 2024, 04:10:31 PM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? No one needs to wait for jobs to get out of their reach before the reality hit on them and the reality is the obvious that AI is taking over human activities rapidly. So no one can stop it and the solution is to join in right away by learning new technological skills that will make you fit into online space and marketing. Learn a skill that will help in to be productive online. So many people are now craving to learn online affiliate marketing, crypto trading, forex market or trading, even some are trying to be "professional" gamblers if that is possible. The fact is no one should allow the revolution of AI to eat them up. Learn a new skill in AI, online marketing, consultation, graphics etc. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: stomachgrowls on June 30, 2024, 04:47:01 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If we do speak about changes then this is something that would really be that inevitable and we are living in a world on which technology isnt something that would really be that constant or static but rather If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. ~! it would really be that dynamic on which it would really be that something will really be understandable that sooner or later on which everything would really be always that automated and this is something which is inevitable and there's nothing we can do about that. When we do speak about precision and making out some comparison in between a human worker and a robot then there's no doubt that robots would really be doing much more better work and precision. Whereas, people or humans would really be that having those cons too but we do know that not all industries would really be tending to switch up and this would really be just that applicable into those companies which would really be able to afford up these robots as we do know that these wont really be that cheap. Therefore, you could really be able to tell that not everything would really be having such change but rather it would really be that selective. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Haunebu on June 30, 2024, 04:52:55 PM AI is a double edged sword and this is common sense since ages op. How? AI automates many manual activities making life easier for people around the world, but it replaces some of the workforce too causing job losses.
Some people focus more on the good part while some others focus more on the bad part. Whatever the case, AI is already taking over the world slowly and steadily for better or for worse. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: indah rezqi on June 30, 2024, 06:25:58 PM In as much as the use of AI is advancing day by day, there are still some certain things and activities that will really requires the supervision of humans. The use of AI cannot take over all part of the world no matter how rapid it might grow. Also, there are still some undeveloped countries which are still advancing in technologies today. So no need for panic over the use of AI. There was a topic discussed in this forum where Elon Musk predicted that AI will put an end to work (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472732.msg63099293#msg63099293). Watching this video has proved that many millions of jobs will be lost because of this new technology. Although this fast food is still in its experimental stage and not open to customers it shows how the future will play out. Some economists claim that that was how it was predicted that new technologies such as the internet, automobiles, tractors, etc would cause unemployment but it ended up creating more jobs. However other schools of thought believe that the job loss AI will cause will be so massive that the sector might not be able to create jobs that will reduce the rate of job loss. With customers still craving for human relationships and interaction and the cost of installing these Artificial intelligence machines I doubt if it will become popular in my country in many years. Customers still want to have discussions with humans and these tools might not be able to give humans that satisfaction. I also think that many organizations might not adopt AI because humans are creative and innovative which can contribute positively to the organization's growth. System failure can lead to disruption in AI production or service but humans can always improvise. However, workers should devise means of gaining additional skills that will make them employable if they lose their jobs. They can also seek ways of integrating AI into their task to make it cheaper and easier. AI doesn't have feelings, and AI can't improvise, that's its weak point. Apart from that, AI cannot solve complex problems, in many cases AI has more limitations than humans. However, I agree that we must continue to learn to hone our skills and master roles that cannot be displaced by future AI developments. Meanwhile, the benefits of AI are actually very large, especially the efficiency of faster time in doing things. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: stompix on June 30, 2024, 06:39:29 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. That's not AI, it's just a robot. There is no difference between that thing and these: https://youtu.be/P7fi4hP_y80?t=124 There is no "intelligence" between them, just like the welding robots in the video I linked it has a set of instructions to decide what to do, nothing more, it can't act on its own or correct its own mistake without restarting completing and trashing everything he has done previously. Also, he can't learn so if there is a thing that is broken in his setup he will keep burning those fries over and over. Some economists claim that that was how it was predicted that new technologies such as the internet, automobiles, tractors, etc would cause unemployment but it ended up creating more jobs. However other schools of thought believe that the job loss AI will cause will be so massive that the sector might not be able to create jobs that will reduce the rate of job loss. We were 2 billion when the machines were supposed to take all our jobs, yet we reached 8 billion and we kept on going, AI/Robotics comes at a time when the population will enter a downtrend anyhow so even at its most extreme the impact will be limited. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fortify on June 30, 2024, 07:56:50 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. There is a lot of hype around artificial intelligence right now and these things can often generate bubbles. There's no doubt that things like ChatGPT are showing very impressive advances which are displacing some jobs, but all those people can go on to specialize in other fields. You have to stay dynamic in order to be competitive in this world and throughout history we have seen jobs becoming obsolete, so it is nothing new. AI still seems in it's infancy in terms of what it can do and is often handicapped by it's own creators in many ways, like inherent biases it picks up while learning from the internet. The contract workers issue you describe is probably more related to offshoring than it is to AI, so be careful when you target your frustration. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: uneng on June 30, 2024, 08:26:29 PM AI is unstoppable, as technology is. Humans have to adapt to it and reorganize themselves, like they have always did along the history of humanity. The concerns you bring here are the same concerns people had between the transition from the agrarian, rural societies to the industrial ones, and the fact that craftsmanship would be replaced by automatic machines, so the artisans would lose their jobs and income. The same we see now with AI revolution.
It's not possible to say what will happen in the future, but it's possible new concepts and categories of jobs are created and become available, so the market can absorb the exceeding labor force available. At same time, another kinds of jobs and professions will disappear to be totally replaced by machines. And it sounds really good, because nobody wants to have as professional career to fry potatoes at the MC Donalds for their whole lives. If it's possible a machine does that, let it be. Meanwhile the person who worked there before can occupy his time with something more rewarding and fulfilling. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Silberman on June 30, 2024, 08:44:30 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. As AI gets more powerful, those at the top will need to figure out a way to make this work, because it is easy to think that business owners will replace all their workers, but without those workers getting any income, who do they expect to buy their products? So they will be negatively impacted by AI too, it is just that they do not see it yet, so trying to make an economy work under those conditions is not going to be easy, as it is something we have never encountered in our whole history, so we have no previous examples we can use to guide our efforts.If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Alpha Marine on June 30, 2024, 09:25:57 PM I believe people had discussions like this when the internet was coming up years ago. There may have been those who would have been scared that the internet would take jobs away because the job of 10-20 people can be done by one person, but instead, the internet turned out to create more jobs instead of taking jobs away.
I believe artificial intelligence is not so different. First of all, the Internet is way cheaper than AI, any business can afford the Internet, and most individuals in the world have access to the Internet, but what percentage of the world would have access to AI which is very expensive. Using an AI to do a job in a restaurant or hotel, for example, might even be more expensive than hiring a staff. The world is a long way from having AI in jobs is a normal thing, that day might come, but not soon and before that day comes the world would be ready, it would have evolved beyond what we know it as today. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Zadicar on June 30, 2024, 09:59:25 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. As AI gets more powerful, those at the top will need to figure out a way to make this work, because it is easy to think that business owners will replace all their workers, but without those workers getting any income, who do they expect to buy their products? So they will be negatively impacted by AI too, it is just that they do not see it yet, so trying to make an economy work under those conditions is not going to be easy, as it is something we have never encountered in our whole history, so we have no previous examples we can use to guide our efforts.If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. 1. Cost efficient 2. Precision 3. Duration or fast execution Then they would really be switching up or would integrate Robots if they would be seeing such advantage. Lets just accept the fact that this world would really be bound to changes and sooner or later those old traditional ways would really be replaced by something new and something which is more faster and convenient or something which would really be that relevant. On the moment that these businessowners would really be taking up that kind of advantage or something that would be beneficial then of course they would really be going for that option. For those who are really that will be affected then there's nothing we can do about that but to find for another job. There would really be still those companies who would really be still needing human skills or labor to do the job. Not everything would really be handled out by automation but actually we would really be heading there. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Findingnemo on June 30, 2024, 10:04:04 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. Well, FYI this is not just AI, it also a robot that has been on the works for very long time for example in the car manufacturing plant it does it's job which is predefined to it and this robot must be similar kind. But I read an article that in the next 10 years we may have robot in our kitchen that can cook anything that we select from the menu which means maids may not longer get hired but this all just a part of the evolution and it's inevitable. Companies don't work for humanity they just work for profits so if they have an alternative that can be less expensive then there is no surprise they will go into that and I assume it's in the hands of policy makers now to how much level these can be accepted or they are gonna sell us out like they always do. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 30, 2024, 10:29:35 PM I don't believe that the invent of AI is going to render humans jobless and make the world a worse place as you are imagining. When there's a new technology, it usually creates a different kind of opportunity for humans. In the olden days, there was a lack of modern technology and machines to do some jobs, but as the world got better with new technology and other machines being invested, there was a need to hire or employ individuals that were going to handle those machines that were being invested to make human activities easier. It's artificial intelligence we are talking about; it doesn't have brains like humans, and there is always an elastic limit to what a technology can do.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Wexnident on June 30, 2024, 11:08:01 PM ~ In terms of efficiency and if AI can actually do jobs properly then yes, they definitely can. They'd probably just need some minimum amount of personnel to handle some issues whenever a situation outside what AI knows happens. Sadly I don't think they're at that point or even close to it yet. They're more of a tool of sorts right now. I'd say whatever you see in the internet right now with these showcases are more of AIs made for that, as a showcase. Not for real world use yet. I'd expect a major shift in the aspects related to economy though since there's a LOT of workforce that AI can replace and if they were, then the economy could stagnate since the cash inflow would pretty much stop circulating among those commonfolk and would probably just revolve in businesses and the people that manufacture AI. Maybe a lot of new work positions may open up or maybe there's just going to be a company that's going to give out free money every month lol. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: tabas on June 30, 2024, 11:54:05 PM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? That's why people need to upscale. Everyone needs to have specific upgraded skills to survive this tough competitor which is the AI. But take a look at the logic of these AIs. They might operate automatically but there's still a need for them to continue with their development and that means there's a need for developers. There's a need for it to be maintained and that's why there's a need for it to have a maintenance personnel for it to be maintained. While many of the simple tasks will be replaced by AI and the most complex tasks will still be done by us. Well, this is me still thinking of the positivity out of this quick progress of AIs.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: mirakal on June 30, 2024, 11:59:29 PM AI is a double edged sword and this is common sense since ages op. How? AI automates many manual activities making life easier for people around the world, but it replaces some of the workforce too causing job losses. Yes, there's no stopping AI anymore. As long as computer technology lives on, AI will always be a part of it. But my point is, instead of competing with AI works, why not just improve our individual job's quality and be more efficient and effective so that the management won't resort into using AI. Know that computers also make mistakes, it's not perfect. Just like humans as well. But if we become more effective in our daily works, I don't think AI will have a place in the working industry, except if the management chose not to hire workers anymore, just stick to AI for money saving.Some people focus more on the good part while some others focus more on the bad part. Whatever the case, AI is already taking over the world slowly and steadily for better or for worse. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: FinneysTrueVision on July 01, 2024, 02:05:11 AM Automation has been taking jobs in manufacturing and a few other industries already for many decades. Now they are using the “AI" marketing buzzword but these machines are only doing what they have already been programmed to do and aren’t capable of learning anything new on their own until a programmer updates their software.
I’m not sure how good for the economy this will be. Usually, working at a fast food restaurant is one of those things you can do as a last resort when you are unable to find employment but now that won’t even require a human workforce. More people could end up on welfare, draining resources from the government, instead of doing something productive even if it is unskilled labor. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: yhiaali3 on July 01, 2024, 02:53:24 AM Every revolution in the world throughout history brings with it positive and negative things, and artificial intelligence has the same positive and negative aspects.
At the present time, I think we do not have to worry too much, but it is certain that this will be a big problem in the distant future. Most countries in the world are moving towards artificial intelligence and automation little by little, and robots will replace humans. We cannot confront development. On the contrary, we must strive to adapt to it, contain it, and benefit from it as much as possible. People who can adapt will inevitably benefit and will find new fields of work, but for those who cannot adapt and develop themselves, they will certainly suffer greatly. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: X-ray on July 01, 2024, 08:03:40 AM The ideal world should be the employee is being given a chance to increase productivity through the use of AI in their working environment, but we sure aren't living in an ideal world where such thing could really happen.
with the emergence of so many companies trying to leverage AI into using it for replacing human workforce, kinda self explanatory what direction our future gonna be taking, eventually it's gonna be the same as mailman being replaced by email all over again. what can we do just follow where the river flow and try to learn new skill which is AI related from scratch. but, at this point i'm really hoping that there will be higher taxes for the use of AI that could give government more money to provide welfare to the people that probably gonna get affected heavily by the use of robotic work force. because I can see that there gonna be so many unemployment. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Strongkored on July 01, 2024, 09:11:12 AM AI or any other form of technology that will emerge will possibly make humans lose their jobs, but only in certain cases and that only reduces, and also opens up opportunities for new forms of work that have never existed before, and humans are created to always be able to adapt to everything that happens, so that in the future humans will also benefit from the massive use of AI, and rather than worrying about the bad impacts that might occur, it is better to learn about AI so that we will get good impacts from this form of technology that is impossible to stop, apart from accepting and using it well for life, it might make things easier later.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Pi-network314159 on July 01, 2024, 09:49:24 AM I don see any reason why human race will be afraid of AI taken over the jobs meant for human. At some point I was thinking likewise but I had a rethink after I watched a video that changed my mentality. This video talks about AI being an assistant to human by reducing stress and not taken job away from humanity. According to that video it talked about how people where frightened about the previous invention that people love ans cherished most today, which are plan, cars, factory machines, heavy duty robot machine and many other robotics control devices, which has become a friend to man now. people depends on those rejected invention for survival because without them most people would have been long dead. Although there is always a disadvantage attached to anything that is good, but we can't forget the fact that they are helpful. Most of those AI will creatore employment because there will be alot of AI engineers to fix those AI incase of any damages or can be working in a robot manufacturing factory. Or better still the robot will be an assistant to what we do because no matter how smart a Robotbis it can't do everything on its own without command. So the command becomes your job.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: tottong on July 01, 2024, 10:02:48 AM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? The revolution has occurred where poor people will continue to be workers for rich people, only now the pattern of jobs available is starting to shift. Sophistication will continue to emerge and every period new things will emerge and humans will be required to be more able to keep up. I saw a small example of a shop that created a group assignment in Scientific form, now they can complete that assignment outside of the work done by humans because they are using ChatGPT. Quote I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. Contract jobs should also have an employment agreement and if they are fired due to a mistake they may not receive compensation. It's I same as a regular job and if a mistake is made during the job, you shouldn't get compensation either.In my country there is still a balance between permanent workers and contract work, but in some periods there has been a trend towards contracts for hired workers. The reason is that they can evaluate workers every year and if they are not productive they can be dismissed respectfully. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: davis196 on July 01, 2024, 11:14:56 AM Cheap human labor is still more affordable for the employers than investing in robots and AI.
Where do you live? I don't want to watch this Youtube video, but I can assume that this AI restaurant bot has been installed in some Japanese or South Korean restaurant(or maybe somewhere in the USA). Those two countries are pretty open to technological innovations and they have problems with not having enough workforce to be hired to do physical labor. I think that AI won't become a threat to the working class in the next 5-10 years. The economic concept of firing millions of people and replacing them with bots is unsustainable, because the workers are consumers. Creating mass unemployment would also create a recession(which is a severe drop in the consumer demand for goods and services). This would be very bad for the business owners. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: fuguebtc on July 01, 2024, 11:50:30 AM AI is a double edged sword and this is common sense since ages op. How? AI automates many manual activities making life easier for people around the world, but it replaces some of the workforce too causing job losses. Yes, there's no stopping AI anymore. As long as computer technology lives on, AI will always be a part of it. But my point is, instead of competing with AI works, why not just improve our individual job's quality and be more efficient and effective so that the management won't resort into using AI. Know that computers also make mistakes, it's not perfect. Just like humans as well. But if we become more effective in our daily works, I don't think AI will have a place in the working industry, except if the management chose not to hire workers anymore, just stick to AI for money saving.Some people focus more on the good part while some others focus more on the bad part. Whatever the case, AI is already taking over the world slowly and steadily for better or for worse. Using AI can not only save money but can also ensure efficiency and quality of work . Even when workers try to improve their performance, they cannot compare with machines, can you work 24/7 without taking a break? But AI and robots can work without rest and not only that, they have almost no performance decline like humans . So I think it's inevitable that companies want to use AI to replace humans because their goal is to maximize savings and create the best profits, they don't care about anything else. The rise of AI is exciting for companies, organizations, and leaders , but from a worker's perspective , it's truly alarming. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Jatiluhung on July 01, 2024, 12:05:31 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. Actually, something similar has happened in my country and in the country where I work now. Where many companies and large factories no longer use a permanent employee appointment system. And most currently use a work contract system which is quite limited, namely only 2 to 3 years and must be renewed if the contract expires. And even that is quite difficult because you have to reapply.If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. And regarding jobs being replaced by robots and AI, I think this is also increasing in my country. but in my country the big factories are only just starting to use robots and maybe not yet using the latest AI. but the presence of these robots has indeed caused many factory employees to be laid off and lose their jobs. And now here so many people have lost their jobs. But what's unique here is that people who have lost their jobs are starting to create their own businesses and some have even succeeded in becoming content creators. And most people who lost their jobs in the real world are now switching to looking for work in the online world and it seems that many are also succeeding in this digital industry. Because currently there are far more opportunities that can be obtained from online business than offline. So in my opinion Ai will never completely replace humans in work. It's just that there will indeed be major changes in the type of work humans do. maybe heavy work can be done with robots and AI but light work can still be done by humans. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: bitvestorhacked on July 01, 2024, 01:02:17 PM I am one of those who thinks that AI is gonna take away jobs and the economy is gonna take a bad turn if this goes on like this. The world is getting more advanced everyday and AI is is brilliant, a good way to make so much easier, a boss getting rid of secretaries while Secretaries getting lazy by using AI to generate her boss letters, business proposals and much more, it is not only affecting the world the workforce but it is also making people lazy, students are starting to write their projects on AI, i know you will say there is a way to know if a student wrote their project with an AI or not but don't forget AI is advancing and for every program created to detect this another program will be created to counter that, but in the end everyone is relying on AI to see what and what not, AI replies emails, AI drives, AI cleans, AI works in the restaurant, AI delivers food, it is only gonna get worse, people are losing their jobs and the more this goes on there is trouble for the future. My 2 cents, i have more to write but i stop here for now.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Gladitorcomeback on July 01, 2024, 02:59:28 PM There is no doubt that a lot of jobs can be potentially taken over by AI and robots, but there will still be a lot of jobs that will require human employees, and a lot of companies wouldn't be able to buy and make use of AI machinery because their costs will probably be higher than the amount of money they pay an employee. However, this will cause some issues for sure, people will have to find other sources of income if their jobs are taken over by an AI.
We need to remember that no problems comes without a solution, so every problem has one or more solutions which is why I think even if a lot of job sectors are taken over by AI models and robots, there will always be some solution for humans to work and earn money to make a livelihood for themselves. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Casdinyard on July 01, 2024, 03:03:19 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. Artificial Supplementary Intelligence is good, which is what you're seeing right now. Cause if this is what popped off during 2022, we'd probably have Universal Basic Income by now. Supplementary AI takes the menial work out of the hands of the people and instead allows us to pursue more fulfilling careers, push for better endeavors, and be able to reach far greater heights. But instead what we got is generative AI that doesn't spew good shit, takes the work out of the hands of the people that NEEDs that work (artists, painters, singers, etc.) to create abominations and utter defilements of their craft, all because it's way cheaper to generate them than hire the real thing, and they can use and abuse the AI without it calling for corporate or sending a complaint to the Better Business Bureau.If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 So the thing that you actually saw here is the "good ending" per se. Too bad we can't have nice things in this planet cause everyone's after stealing shit from other people instead of making everyone's lives a little bit better so instead of creating supporting AI what we got is the generative variant that doesn't even do shit. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: MissNonFall9 on July 01, 2024, 03:39:25 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. We are gradually moving deeper into technology and technology integration is happening in almost every work. At first I was also very concerned that it might put many people out of work which would affect the world economy. However it is crucial that technology accelerates economic mobility. It could also be that the clash between the rich and the poor due to economic disparity is hard to say whether this will actually happen. But I think day by day maybe there will be more revolution in people's income.If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Jawhead999 on July 01, 2024, 03:58:43 PM There is no doubt that a lot of jobs can be potentially taken over by AI and robots, but there will still be a lot of jobs that will require human employees, and a lot of companies wouldn't be able to buy and make use of AI machinery because their costs will probably be higher than the amount of money they pay an employee. However, this will cause some issues for sure, people will have to find other sources of income if their jobs are taken over by an AI. If there are many robots, I think mechanic jobs will raise since they need to maintenance and repair the robots. But, if someone can create a robot that examine and repair other robots, then it's over. We need to remember that no problems comes without a solution, so every problem has one or more solutions which is why I think even if a lot of job sectors are taken over by AI models and robots, there will always be some solution for humans to work and earn money to make a livelihood for themselves. There have been cars with autonomous driving technology since few years ago, even though it's not yet safe till now, if people can start to trust driverless cars, it's a threat to delivery courier and Uber's workers. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Wakate on July 01, 2024, 05:44:26 PM I don see any reason why human race will be afraid of AI taken over the jobs meant for human. At some point I was thinking likewise but I had a rethink after I watched a video that changed my mentality. This video talks about AI being an assistant to human by reducing stress and not taken job away from humanity. According to that video it talked about how people where frightened about the previous invention that people love ans cherished most today, which are plan, cars, factory machines, heavy duty robot machine and many other robotics control devices, which has become a friend to man now. people depends on those rejected invention for survival because without them most people would have been long dead. Although there is always a disadvantage attached to anything that is good, but we can't forget the fact that they are helpful. Most of those AI will creatore employment because there will be alot of AI engineers to fix those AI incase of any damages or can be working in a robot manufacturing factory. Or better still the robot will be an assistant to what we do because no matter how smart a Robotbis it can't do everything on its own without command. So the command becomes your job. You don't need to be surprised that what you think could be an assistant to you can likewise take your job from you from the thing is able to do the same thing you can do for the company. Many companies are looking for a cheaper ways to put things into action and we are not going to be surprised that artificial intelligence will do many of the jobs that humans normally do to earn small money for themselves. Maybe in the future, there wouldn't be some jobs that people are doing these days because artificial intelligence will fit in and even do more than we can actually do. We should just wait for more years to come because many jobs wouldn't be available again. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: bangjoe on July 01, 2024, 05:53:44 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. In terms of business benefits, of course, if there is a cheap cost to spend instead of hiring employees who have many demands and our obligations to them as business owners, it is better for me to hire AI, in simple terms like that, I only need to hire one technician to take care of AI and the machines I use if there is a problem, or a call is enough to control if AI has disrupted the world of work. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 While AI is still being developed to help human work, and large employers will definitely replace their employees with robots that have AI power, because it is far more profitable than hiring employees, who are often off / leave / sick and ask a lot of things if there is something they don't like from company policy. IMO Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Mahanton on July 01, 2024, 07:54:17 PM I don see any reason why human race will be afraid of AI taken over the jobs meant for human. At some point I was thinking likewise but I had a rethink after I watched a video that changed my mentality. This video talks about AI being an assistant to human by reducing stress and not taken job away from humanity. According to that video it talked about how people where frightened about the previous invention that people love ans cherished most today, which are plan, cars, factory machines, heavy duty robot machine and many other robotics control devices, which has become a friend to man now. people depends on those rejected invention for survival because without them most people would have been long dead. Although there is always a disadvantage attached to anything that is good, but we can't forget the fact that they are helpful. Most of those AI will creatore employment because there will be alot of AI engineers to fix those AI incase of any damages or can be working in a robot manufacturing factory. Or better still the robot will be an assistant to what we do because no matter how smart a Robotbis it can't do everything on its own without command. So the command becomes your job. You don't need to be surprised that what you think could be an assistant to you can likewise take your job from you from the thing is able to do the same thing you can do for the company. Many companies are looking for a cheaper ways to put things into action and we are not going to be surprised that artificial intelligence will do many of the jobs that humans normally do to earn small money for themselves. Maybe in the future, there wouldn't be some jobs that people are doing these days because artificial intelligence will fit in and even do more than we can actually do. We should just wait for more years to come because many jobs wouldn't be available again. It might have that having those effects but doesnt mean that it would really be that making the world worse. Somehow if you are someone whom you do look that your job would be replaced by a robot soon then it would be better that you should really be starting on looking for some back up now. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Yaqs15 on July 01, 2024, 10:12:02 PM Automation has been taking jobs in manufacturing and a few other industries already for many decades. Now they are using the “AI" marketing buzzword but these machines are only doing what they have already been programmed to do and aren’t capable of learning anything new on their own until a programmer updates their software. Things were bad even before the introduction of AI in our industries, now that they have introduced the use of AI it will be more worse. The governments are already shouting that there's no vacancy to recruit more workers and also those that are working were not paid as they are supposed to be paid due to one thing and the other. now that AI is even available to replace human being, the government and company directors will be eager to get rid of human services so that they could start using AI to reduce cost. And these AI can not do things on their own, but on the way they are programmed. So still their service cannot be compared with the human.I’m not sure how good for the economy this will be. Usually, working at a fast food restaurant is one of those things you can do as a last resort when you are unable to find employment but now that won’t even require a human workforce. More people could end up on welfare, draining resources from the government, instead of doing something productive even if it is unskilled labor. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Belarge on July 01, 2024, 10:35:50 PM Using AI can not only save money but can also ensure efficiency and quality of work . Even when workers try to improve their performance, they cannot compare with machines, can you work 24/7 without taking a break? But AI and robots can work without rest and not only that, they have almost no performance decline like humans . So I think it's inevitable that companies want to use AI to replace humans because their goal is to maximize savings and create the best profits, they don't care about anything else. The rise of AI is exciting for companies, organizations, and leaders , but from a worker's perspective , it's truly alarming. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: shinratensei_ on July 02, 2024, 04:37:16 AM It's disheartening how the world become dystopian for the average population with the emergence of AI replacing worker but some company does need to make things efficient just to keep themselves from going bankrupt and AI might be the solution for that.
moving foward I expect that the world economy will be changing so significantly that great deal of people that are unskilled labour gonna get casted aside, the country that have small industrial sector gonna suffer the most, poverty will be more rampant. e many robots, I think mechanic jobs will raise since they need to maintenance and repair the robots. But, if someone can create a robot that examine and repair other robots, then it's over. yeah even mechanic will eventually be replaced it's matter of time, it reminds me of how there's Devin AI that try to replace entry level programming jobs, basically programmer trying to take away job for other programmer, crazy world we live in.There have been cars with autonomous driving technology since few years ago, even though it's not yet safe till now, if people can start to trust driverless cars, it's a threat to delivery courier and Uber's workers. as long as there's money to be gained from providing such service to replace other people's labour, it seems some people have no problem with that even in the morality level. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: OrangeII on July 02, 2024, 05:15:45 AM When people really take advantage of AI, then they can make their work easier. This is a very good technology when compared to the work we have. I have seen many times that other people's jobs have become easier by utilizing AI. However, as workers we also need to adapt to this. Some AI may be able to replace other people's jobs, which is why we need to try to adapt to technological developments from time to time.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: doomloop on July 02, 2024, 09:34:32 AM In as much as the use of AI is advancing day by day, there are still some certain things and activities that will really requires the supervision of humans. The use of AI cannot take over all part of the world no matter how rapid it might grow. Also, there are still some undeveloped countries which are still advancing in technologies today. So no need for panic over the use of AI. Yes and one of it is the human supervision to these AI's because there might bugs that can occur suddenly to them and that can ruin the task given to them. That underdeveloped countries you said, is the reason on why AI can't take over globally.Anyways, AI's are not always a bad thing, so I won't worry even those underdeveloped countries have became developed later on and join the trend or the AI catches them as well, because it might also help them sustain their momentum and this can in fact cause them to surpass the other countries. We only need to calm our minds because too much thinking and creating unimaginable scenarios is not a good thing anymore. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Jatiluhung on July 02, 2024, 02:34:17 PM When people really take advantage of AI, then they can make their work easier. This is a very good technology when compared to the work we have. I have seen many times that other people's jobs have become easier by utilizing AI. However, as workers we also need to adapt to this. Some AI may be able to replace other people's jobs, which is why we need to try to adapt to technological developments from time to time. Well, this is a challenge that we have to go through and we have to win at all costs. Actually, this is not a matter of competition between AI and humans, but it is a competition between fellow humans in increasing their insight and skills in an era of increasingly advanced technology. People who are superior in insight can create AI and make money with that AI. And if we are not able to balance and adapt to all of that, then don't expect us to be able to continue to survive in an industry that we have been in for a long time. because as time goes by we have seen technological developments that are increasingly advancing rapidly. And all industries are starting to utilize every new technology available and AI is one of them. Automated robots are even common now and AI Robots are the next ones that will become common in their time. If other people can use AI to make money then we should be able to do it too.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: DVlog on July 02, 2024, 05:23:31 PM Farmers had used animals to plow their land. Now they are using heavy machinery. Those animals that had been used to plow fields lost their use or value completely? I don't think so. They have lost their value in one sector but they are still valuable in some other sectors. The same things will happen with humans, they have to adapt to the technology and new job positions will be opened that will require human intervention. Integration of AI in daily life won't replace total human intervention. It will just ease our work.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: avikz on July 02, 2024, 05:27:53 PM AI is definitely going to take out a lot of job from the human race. Especially those jobs which are repetitive in nature and decision making is not involved. The business process outsourcing industry is already seeing the job cuts. Even a lot of functions within accounting can be taken over by AI and I know a lot of companies have already started this.
There will be obviously jobs that cannot be handled by AI. When it comes to repetitive jobs, AI will become the biggest challenge for the job seekers. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: tottong on July 02, 2024, 06:31:24 PM Farmers had used animals to plow their land. Now they are using heavy machinery. Those animals that had been used to plow fields lost their use or value completely? I don't think so. They have lost their value in one sector but they are still valuable in some other sectors. The same things will happen with humans, they have to adapt to the technology and new job positions will be opened that will require human intervention. Integration of AI in daily life won't replace total human intervention. It will just ease our work. When I was little, I often saw farmers using animals to plow the land and it was almost entirely done traditionally. Now times are changing where farmers almost completely use machines from planting until harvest arrives. If humans are not able to adapt to this then in the future they will lose many existing jobs and I have also seen hotels in Japan that are already using robots to serve guests. If we don't want to be left behind and lose our jobs, humans have to adapt and we may not be able to limit robots from developing in the future. It's just a matter of time and we are required to be able to follow not be directed, because humans who usually just wait will be left behind, swallowed up by technological advances. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: JoyMarsha on July 02, 2024, 06:48:39 PM The technological advancement of AI to replace the global workforce is not what to keep quiet about without finding ways to be relevant in your area of work by learning how to operate the AI.
The AI the whole world talks about needs someone who knows how to use them. They can operate on their own without us. I read a place in a magazine where it is stated that AI can not take people's jobs, but someone who knows how to use AI can peacefully take your job without stress at any time. However, get yourself "evolve" by learning how to use AI. It can be useful in the future, who knows Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Winterfrost on July 02, 2024, 07:55:49 PM The technological advancement of AI to replace the global workforce is not what to keep quiet about without finding ways to be relevant in your area of work by learning how to operate the AI. I doubt, AI is currently taking jobs meant for humans. I wonder what will become of us in years to come. A lot of people will be unemployed which will definitely increase the rate of crime in the world entirely. Everything we do manually now can be done with much ease which requires a very minimum number of operators compared to when it is done manual, this should not be a welcome development.The AI the whole world talks about needs someone who knows how to use them. They can operate on their own without us. I read a place in a magazine where it is stated that AI can not take people's jobs, but someone who knows how to use AI can peacefully take your job without stress at any time. However, get yourself "evolve" by learning how to use AI. It can be useful in the future, who knows Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Bitstar_coin on July 02, 2024, 08:23:20 PM There is a saying i came across that says " AI won't take your job but those who have the knowledge and knows how to effectively use it will take your job".
In otherwards, it is important people try and adapt to new innovation and learn it to fit in the current standard. Many people still operates in the 19th century while the whole world is rapidly advancing in tech. I think AI can be considered dangerous when there are too many of them doing basically all human functions, e.g like having a human-like AI that do chores around the homes and offices. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Maslate on July 02, 2024, 10:59:07 PM When people really take advantage of AI, then they can make their work easier. This is a very good technology when compared to the work we have. I have seen many times that other people's jobs have become easier by utilizing AI. However, as workers we also need to adapt to this. Some AI may be able to replace other people's jobs, which is why we need to try to adapt to technological developments from time to time. Well, this is a challenge that we have to go through and we have to win at all costs. Actually, this is not a matter of competition between AI and humans, but it is a competition between fellow humans in increasing their insight and skills in an era of increasingly advanced technology. People who are superior in insight can create AI and make money with that AI. And if we are not able to balance and adapt to all of that, then don't expect us to be able to continue to survive in an industry that we have been in for a long time. because as time goes by we have seen technological developments that are increasingly advancing rapidly. And all industries are starting to utilize every new technology available and AI is one of them. Automated robots are even common now and AI Robots are the next ones that will become common in their time. If other people can use AI to make money then we should be able to do it too.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ndutndut on July 03, 2024, 09:31:27 AM AI is a double edged sword and this is common sense since ages op. How? AI automates many manual activities making life easier for people around the world, but it replaces some of the workforce too causing job losses. Yes, there's no stopping AI anymore. As long as computer technology lives on, AI will always be a part of it. But my point is, instead of competing with AI works, why not just improve our individual job's quality and be more efficient and effective so that the management won't resort into using AI. Know that computers also make mistakes, it's not perfect. Just like humans as well. But if we become more effective in our daily works, I don't think AI will have a place in the working industry, except if the management chose not to hire workers anymore, just stick to AI for money saving.Some people focus more on the good part while some others focus more on the bad part. Whatever the case, AI is already taking over the world slowly and steadily for better or for worse. AI is just AI, it does not have feelings or consciousness like humans. So, it is impossible for AI to fight humans, let alone take over world government or replace human jobs. Even though they are very smart, work tirelessly, like to complain, and can save costs. but they still need guidance from humans in doing things, they themselves don't know how to do things spontaneously, if no one directs them. AI can only follow what it has been programmed to do. Indeed, if you think about it, AI is like a double-edged sword. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: GiftedMAN on July 03, 2024, 10:07:50 AM I don't believe that the invent of AI is going to render humans jobless and make the world a worse place as you are imagining. When there's a new technology, it usually creates a different kind of opportunity for humans. In the olden days, there was a lack of modern technology and machines to do some jobs, but as the world got better with new technology and other machines being invested, there was a need to hire or employ individuals that were going to handle those machines that were being invested to make human activities easier. It's artificial intelligence we are talking about; it doesn't have brains like humans, and there is always an elastic limit to what a technology can do. I understand that humans will still have the opportunity to do some other jobs because the artificial intelligence won't be able to do all kinds of job but I want us to look at it from this angle, in a country where there is a high rate of unemployment and AI is introduced to either make the job easier for humans or to replace the human in some certain jobs don't you think the country will get a higher rate of unemployment ratio? In my opinion, the introduction of artificial intelligence will help to do some jobs faster than humans just like the case of using a machine in processing farm products in a mechanize system of agriculture but this will also reduce the rate of employment as the only humans that will be employed will become few since the machines can do the works faster than humans. The artificial intelligence should only be used to assist the works of humans but it shouldn't be used as a replacement for humans work because most companies will reduce the employment of workers if the artificial intelligence can do the work better for them and the rate of unemployment will keep going higher especially in the developed countries. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: sulendra12 on July 03, 2024, 01:03:54 PM Probably in developed countries, they could afford to replace human workers with AI to automatize the workload to become more efficient. BUT STILL, it's quite limited to what sectors AI could replace you as a worker. AI lacks emotions and if you are working with writing and video editing stuff then as a human workers, you are still free from that. Even though AI could do that, but it's really bad and you can easily recognize how bad it is lol.
But for countries that are still developing, then they won't bother to use AI because of how expensive it is and it's probably cheaper to just let the human workers to do their job with the same result. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Jatiluhung on July 03, 2024, 01:09:56 PM When people really take advantage of AI, then they can make their work easier. This is a very good technology when compared to the work we have. I have seen many times that other people's jobs have become easier by utilizing AI. However, as workers we also need to adapt to this. Some AI may be able to replace other people's jobs, which is why we need to try to adapt to technological developments from time to time. Well, this is a challenge that we have to go through and we have to win at all costs. Actually, this is not a matter of competition between AI and humans, but it is a competition between fellow humans in increasing their insight and skills in an era of increasingly advanced technology. People who are superior in insight can create AI and make money with that AI. And if we are not able to balance and adapt to all of that, then don't expect us to be able to continue to survive in an industry that we have been in for a long time. because as time goes by we have seen technological developments that are increasingly advancing rapidly. And all industries are starting to utilize every new technology available and AI is one of them. Automated robots are even common now and AI Robots are the next ones that will become common in their time. If other people can use AI to make money then we should be able to do it too.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: virasog on July 03, 2024, 03:37:30 PM When people really take advantage of AI, then they can make their work easier. This is a very good technology when compared to the work we have. I have seen many times that other people's jobs have become easier by utilizing AI. However, as workers we also need to adapt to this. Some AI may be able to replace other people's jobs, which is why we need to try to adapt to technological developments from time to time. As you have mentioned the AI will make our jobs easy rather than replacing our jobs and work. This is the misconception that most people have and therefore they are afraid of Artificial Intelligence. In fact i would say that AI can make our jobs easy while we can focus on more productive ways of working. Yes, things will change, people will have to acquire up-to-date knowledge in order to survive but those who can cope with all these advancements they can further excel in their jobs while the lazy ones will have no space left for them. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Faisal2202 on July 03, 2024, 04:17:22 PM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? You are right, this is a moment of difficult for those traditional people or I should say middle-class people who work as labor in different sectors of life. For example, Amazon company has automated most of there work and they have fired a lot of workers and only kept a few to manage these bots. As a content writer, I have seen a big decrement in the demand for content writers, because most of the managers are doing the smart work using AI by themselves, they have prompts of more than 500 to 1000 words about what type of content they want and with one click they can generate content good enough to not get caught by Google algos.It is true that AI can replace many workers, but at the same time, it will generate a lot of new employment as well. I once read a report in which they proved this by numbers. And till now, even if AI has been used by most of content managers, still they require content writers because they are demanding hand written content (manually written). So, there is still demand, a month ago there was a software in the market that was too famous among software developers that it can write the whole project, manage it, document it, and all the other 7 steps of developing software for a brand. But in the end, it turns out, that AI software is not able to do it all and failed to complete its task. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ibuddy122505 on July 03, 2024, 04:45:21 PM When people really take advantage of AI, then they can make their work easier. This is a very good technology when compared to the work we have. I have seen many times that other people's jobs have become easier by utilizing AI. However, as workers we also need to adapt to this. Some AI may be able to replace other people's jobs, which is why we need to try to adapt to technological developments from time to time. As you have mentioned the AI will make our jobs easy rather than replacing our jobs and work. This is the misconception that most people have and therefore they are afraid of Artificial Intelligence. In fact i would say that AI can make our jobs easy while we can focus on more productive ways of working. Yes, things will change, people will have to acquire up-to-date knowledge in order to survive but those who can cope with all these advancements they can further excel in their jobs while the lazy ones will have no space left for them. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: uswa56 on July 03, 2024, 05:33:23 PM Farmers had used animals to plow their land. Now they are using heavy machinery. Those animals that had been used to plow fields lost their use or value completely? I don't think so. They have lost their value in one sector but they are still valuable in some other sectors. The same things will happen with humans, they have to adapt to the technology and new job positions will be opened that will require human intervention. Integration of AI in daily life won't replace total human intervention. It will just ease our work. Of course, not all jobs can be taken over by AI and as you said in the agricultural sector, farmers used to use their animals to plow the fields, but now with the sophistication of technology, of course they no longer use animals and use machines and this is of course thanks to progress. the technology and machines used to plow land of course still have to be mostly operated by humans and in this case it will of course make it easier for us to complete the work and can get results that benefit ourselves from current technological advances and for some people who do not follow progress technology, of course they will be a little late in doing their work because the process required is of course very different from the work done by machines.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: bittraffic on July 03, 2024, 05:44:38 PM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? You are right, this is a moment of difficult for those traditional people or I should say middle-class people who work as labor in different sectors of life. For example, Amazon company has automated most of there work and they have fired a lot of workers and only kept a few to manage these bots. As a content writer, I have seen a big decrement in the demand for content writers, because most of the managers are doing the smart work using AI by themselves, they have prompts of more than 500 to 1000 words about what type of content they want and with one click they can generate content good enough to not get caught by Google algos.It is true that AI can replace many workers, but at the same time, it will generate a lot of new employment as well. I once read a report in which they proved this by numbers. And till now, even if AI has been used by most of content managers, still they require content writers because they are demanding hand written content (manually written). So, there is still demand, a month ago there was a software in the market that was too famous among software developers that it can write the whole project, manage it, document it, and all the other 7 steps of developing software for a brand. But in the end, it turns out, that AI software is not able to do it all and failed to complete its task. The new job employment that will be needed in the future when AI is taking over will require PhD and programming, do you think every person has those kinds of skills? This is like killing every person on earth slowly by starving us. And the government is conspiring with the Tech companies to develop these AIs along with those unelected WEF people. If AI robots are already deployed in every fast-food restaurant in the world, we'll all be eating whatever they serve, such as the meat generated in the lab. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Dakcrypto on July 03, 2024, 06:23:05 PM For me I feel like people are over exaggerating the power of AIs in taking over the jobs of people but it's really not that much because at very invention there is always a new opportunity for other jobs. it's only one someone doesn't have something to do except white collar jobs then it would be a problematic situation when AIs starts working every where.
There are other jobs too that AIs can't take over it's very certain. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Ever-young on July 03, 2024, 08:31:19 PM I don't believe that the invent of AI is going to render humans jobless and make the world a worse place as you are imagining. When there's a new technology, it usually creates a different kind of opportunity for humans. In the olden days, there was a lack of modern technology and machines to do some jobs, but as the world got better with new technology and other machines being invested, there was a need to hire or employ individuals that were going to handle those machines that were being invested to make human activities easier. It's artificial intelligence we are talking about; it doesn't have brains like humans, and there is always an elastic limit to what a technology can do. I get the point you are trying to make in this place. Let's also check during the old days, like you used as an example. Back then, I believe there were a lot of labour opportunities for those who had the manpower to work since everything was done by manual labour.But the more there is technological advancement, the more we will likely experience a reduction in the number of workers a company will need to complete its industrial needs. They will only hire a few human workers to help supervise the machines and those other tasks that can't be carried out by the machines, but at the end of the day, some people will be rendered jobless and have no means of earning to feed their families. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Distinctin on July 03, 2024, 11:47:49 PM There is a saying i came across that says " AI won't take your job but those who have the knowledge and knows how to effectively use it will take your job". With how advanced and innovative AI is, it will really come to that point that AI will be given task to manage the house and office chores, but I don't think it will be as effective and efficient like how humans are capable to. The best solution here is that people should never let AI make an edge over them. People should never be lazy but should always focus on their job's productivity, so that the company owner will never resort into using AI to make all jobs done without spending too much money and time.In otherwards, it is important people try and adapt to new innovation and learn it to fit in the current standard. Many people still operates in the 19th century while the whole world is rapidly advancing in tech. I think AI can be considered dangerous when there are too many of them doing basically all human functions, e.g like having a human-like AI that do chores around the homes and offices. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Jatiluhung on July 03, 2024, 11:53:15 PM For me I feel like people are over exaggerating the power of AIs in taking over the jobs of people but it's really not that much because at very invention there is always a new opportunity for other jobs. it's only one someone doesn't have something to do except white collar jobs then it would be a problematic situation when AIs starts working every where. Yes, there are many types of work that cannot actually be done with AI. It's just that AI can be relied on to find quite rational ideas based on the fast collection of information they have. And I also think people have too much worry about AI that isn't actually developing that fast. Maybe in the film we see AI taking over the world. but well it is only in films where the level of artificial intelligence has met a different level. Meanwhile, the type of AI currently being developed is only at a fairly simple stage and still relies on collecting limited information. It's just that we also have to be prepared to face the challenges of future technological advances. So that we don't lose opportunities when new discoveries come.There are other jobs too that AIs can't take over it's very certain. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: LogitechMouse on July 04, 2024, 01:54:18 AM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? THOSE WHO WILL NOT ADOPT TO WHAT'S HAPPENING WILL BE THE ONES THAT WILL BE HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING A JOB.Those who don't know how to maximize AI are the ones that will become unemployed. There are some jobs that unfortunately will be affected by the revolution of AI, and with how AI is developing right now, I believe more jobs will be affected in the future, and because of this, more people will get unemployed as well. Now there are 2 ways for them to at least not to get unemployed. Either adopt and maximize AI or find a job that isn't affected by it. We know that not all are affected by AI, right? AI might put some employers unemployed, but those who can use it can do the work way easier than what they're doing. Let's not look at AI like some "random devil" that could make our life worse. Let's learn how to utilize it. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: fuguebtc on July 04, 2024, 07:43:28 AM There is a saying i came across that says " AI won't take your job but those who have the knowledge and knows how to effectively use it will take your job". With how advanced and innovative AI is, it will really come to that point that AI will be given task to manage the house and office chores, but I don't think it will be as effective and efficient like how humans are capable to. The best solution here is that people should never let AI make an edge over them. People should never be lazy but should always focus on their job's productivity, so that the company owner will never resort into using AI to make all jobs done without spending too much money and time.In otherwards, it is important people try and adapt to new innovation and learn it to fit in the current standard. Many people still operates in the 19th century while the whole world is rapidly advancing in tech. I think AI can be considered dangerous when there are too many of them doing basically all human functions, e.g like having a human-like AI that do chores around the homes and offices. To be more precise , we have no other solution than improving our knowledge and improving our work efficiency to avoid being eliminated , but the problem is that no matter how hard we try , we cannot compete with AI in some areas. As shown in the video that OP provided , it is clear that AI will bring better quality of work because it does not need to rest and work performance is always kept at its best level . Unlike humans , after a long day of work , our work performance will also decrease due to body fatigue . In that case , there is no way we can outperform AI . AI will not be able to replace humans in every field , but certainly some fields will be dominated by it and many people will be unemployed if they cannot adapt to this change. Billionaire Elon is one of the participants in several AI development projects, but he is not afraid to express his views on AI . He also believes that AI can take over all of our jobs , although not all of them will be bad. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/23/tech/elon-musk-ai-your-job/index.html https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/07/04/oPBpv.png Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: knowngunman on July 04, 2024, 09:39:17 AM In as much as the use of AI is advancing day by day, there are still some certain things and activities that will really requires the supervision of humans. The use of AI cannot take over all part of the world no matter how rapid it might grow. Also, there are still some undeveloped countries which are still advancing in technologies today. So no need for panic over the use of AI. The fact is AI can not deprive anyone of their jobs. However, someone who makes use of AI can be partially be ahead of you in certain aspects. AI can not completely work on their own without the help of human to give commands, this alone means that human service is still highly needed in a company that chooses to use AI instead of human thou the capacity will reduce. People assume that AI will just takeover human jobs without considering the other aspects of it which involves costs and high costs of maintenance. And yeah, some parts of some countries can never experience development despite its advancement. Mini companies located in areas like this can not make use of AI and succeed. Even at the peak of using AI, only few out of many companies can afford it. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Iranus on July 04, 2024, 10:05:15 AM In as much as the use of AI is advancing day by day, there are still some certain things and activities that will really requires the supervision of humans. The use of AI cannot take over all part of the world no matter how rapid it might grow. Also, there are still some undeveloped countries which are still advancing in technologies today. So no need for panic over the use of AI. The fact is AI can not deprive anyone of their jobs. However, someone who makes use of AI can be partially be ahead of you in certain aspects. AI can not completely work on their own without the help of human to give commands, this alone means that human service is still highly needed in a company that chooses to use AI instead of human thou the capacity will reduce. People assume that AI will just takeover human jobs without considering the other aspects of it which involves costs and high costs of maintenance. Regarding costs and maintenance costs, I think maintaining 100 robots will be more economical than paying monthly salaries to 100 workers. Did you know that when recruiting employees, you have to pay insurance, provide meals, allowances...there are many costs incurred when recruiting and signing contracts with official employees? That's the pressure many businesses are looking to eliminate to increase revenue, and it's also the reason they will prioritize AI if it can replace humans. And yeah, some parts of some countries can never experience development despite its advancement. Mini companies located in areas like this can not make use of AI and succeed. Even at the peak of using AI, only few out of many companies can afford it. If AI becomes widespread and truly delivers superior results, adoption will happen faster than we think. Like smartphones, they used to be a luxury item 10 years ago and not everyone could own them but look how easily anyone can own them these days. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 05, 2024, 07:19:40 PM I don't believe that the invent of AI is going to render humans jobless and make the world a worse place as you are imagining. When there's a new technology, it usually creates a different kind of opportunity for humans. In the olden days, there was a lack of modern technology and machines to do some jobs, but as the world got better with new technology and other machines being invested, there was a need to hire or employ individuals that were going to handle those machines that were being invested to make human activities easier. It's artificial intelligence we are talking about; it doesn't have brains like humans, and there is always an elastic limit to what a technology can do. I understand that humans will still have the opportunity to do some other jobs because the artificial intelligence won't be able to do all kinds of job but I want us to look at it from this angle, in a country where there is a high rate of unemployment and AI is introduced to either make the job easier for humans or to replace the human in some certain jobs don't you think the country will get a higher rate of unemployment ratio? In my opinion, the introduction of artificial intelligence will help to do some jobs faster than humans just like the case of using a machine in processing farm products in a mechanize system of agriculture but this will also reduce the rate of employment as the only humans that will be employed will become few since the machines can do the works faster than humans. The artificial intelligence should only be used to assist the works of humans but it shouldn't be used as a replacement for humans work because most companies will reduce the employment of workers if the artificial intelligence can do the work better for them and the rate of unemployment will keep going higher especially in the developed countries. Just like you said, in a country where there is a high rate of unemployment, how can such a country even be able to lay their hands on a lot of AI machines that can replace humans? These AIs don't work for a lifetime; they also need re-validation and maintenance, and it is humans that will be doing those tasks, and it will cost the owners some money to do that. So, there is every possibility that those countries that don't have enough labor to ingage citizens in employment would not go for those AIs, but if they do, that means it is going to cause some people to still lose their jobs. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: GiftedMAN on July 05, 2024, 07:51:21 PM I don't believe that the invent of AI is going to render humans jobless and make the world a worse place as you are imagining. When there's a new technology, it usually creates a different kind of opportunity for humans. In the olden days, there was a lack of modern technology and machines to do some jobs, but as the world got better with new technology and other machines being invested, there was a need to hire or employ individuals that were going to handle those machines that were being invested to make human activities easier. It's artificial intelligence we are talking about; it doesn't have brains like humans, and there is always an elastic limit to what a technology can do. I understand that humans will still have the opportunity to do some other jobs because the artificial intelligence won't be able to do all kinds of job but I want us to look at it from this angle, in a country where there is a high rate of unemployment and AI is introduced to either make the job easier for humans or to replace the human in some certain jobs don't you think the country will get a higher rate of unemployment ratio? In my opinion, the introduction of artificial intelligence will help to do some jobs faster than humans just like the case of using a machine in processing farm products in a mechanize system of agriculture but this will also reduce the rate of employment as the only humans that will be employed will become few since the machines can do the works faster than humans. The artificial intelligence should only be used to assist the works of humans but it shouldn't be used as a replacement for humans work because most companies will reduce the employment of workers if the artificial intelligence can do the work better for them and the rate of unemployment will keep going higher especially in the developed countries. Just like you said, in a country where there is a high rate of unemployment, how can such a country even be able to lay their hands on a lot of AI machines that can replace humans? These AIs don't work for a lifetime; they also need re-validation and maintenance, and it is humans that will be doing those tasks, and it will cost the owners some money to do that. So, there is every possibility that those countries that don't have enough labor to ingage citizens in employment would not go for those AIs, but if they do, that means it is going to cause some people to still lose their jobs. If the countries find it difficult to afford the artificial intelligence, how about the companies that are in the country that will be willing to afford the machines, don't you think they would want to acquire the machine to reduce the amount they pay as salaries? I wouldn't suggest the use of artificial intelligence in my country right now because even without the introduction of the machines we already have a large number of unemployed people in the country especially the youth. Some companies will consider using the artificial intelligence machines to do their jobs instead of humans because humans will easily get tired of work in some certain jobs but the use of machines will make the work better, easier and faster even though they will need some humans for observation. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Antotena on July 05, 2024, 09:31:40 PM For me I feel like people are over exaggerating the power of AIs in taking over the jobs of people but it's really not that much because at very invention there is always a new opportunity for other jobs. it's only one someone doesn't have something to do except white collar jobs then it would be a problematic situation when AIs starts working every where. There are other jobs too that AIs can't take over it's very certain. AI hype is nothing but a marketing strategy that is working for them. I just don't know how it flew into air but AI has been in existence before this year but some group of guys just decide to make everything AI look alike package with premium service to make money for the company and that's what everyone are thinking right now. There are somethings a computer can never do without the presence of human being, perhaps they will make job more easier and not complicated In 2015, some car companies promised that by 2024, we are going to have cars that will be flying on the air and we are now in 2024 and we have seen not even the prototype of a car that looks like something that can fly. This is how I see AI and very soon, it will be forgotten like the old trend that people has been Manipulate about and where all forget like it's nothing. Even though AI might not stop functioning but the hype will turn zero. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Viscore on July 05, 2024, 09:35:00 PM Probably, if people won't be giving our their best in their jobs. But we all know eradicating all these workers and completely replaced by AI won't be happening in just a blink of an eye, it may take a lot of years of observation and studies before it's going to happen. And I know it's still best having real humans than AI robots working on jobs in order to achieve its best outcome. AI will only serve as an alternative when real people are no longer capable on working on it.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Winterfrost on July 05, 2024, 10:00:35 PM Probably, if people won't be giving our their best in their jobs. But we all know eradicating all these workers and completely replaced by AI won't be happening in just a blink of an eye, it may take a lot of years of observation and studies before it's going to happen. And I know it's still best having real humans than AI robots working on jobs in order to achieve its best outcome. AI will only serve as an alternative when real people are no longer capable on working on it. We should not totally embrace this new system, imagine what can be done by humans to earn a living would then be carried out by a machine which will increase the number of unemployed people and this will have a huge effect in that society because people will now be left with no choice than to seek extra measures to earn a living, it could be either appropriate or inappropriate.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Mame89 on July 05, 2024, 10:24:18 PM Probably, if people won't be giving our their best in their jobs. But we all know eradicating all these workers and completely replaced by AI won't be happening in just a blink of an eye, it may take a lot of years of observation and studies before it's going to happen. And I know it's still best having real humans than AI robots working on jobs in order to achieve its best outcome. AI will only serve as an alternative when real people are no longer capable on working on it. Yes that's right. Actually, we don't need to worry too much, of course the implementation of AI technology takes time and not all countries can accept this technology. However, what is clear is that all work cannot be done by AI, you still have to use human services, only certain work can be done by AI. However, we cannot reject the development of AI technology, we have to work hard to be more creative so as not to be inferior to AI technology.This is like the postman of the past being replaced or superseded by the telephone, where technology helps a previously slow process become fast and effective. So that humans change following the technological era, business also changes following technological developments. This AI will be like that too, but no matter how great an AI is, it can't plow fields, raise cows and raise chickens. Well, that's a job that tends to be irreplaceable for people who are lazy and don't want to keep up with technological developments. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: macson on July 05, 2024, 10:28:40 PM In this case, AI is actually not wrong at all, so before AI becomes common, we must first adopt AI, in fact many content creators currently use AI to create interesting content independently. don't fight AI, use it to develop yourself to be more valuable and make money from it, don't be lazy because currently AI is very easy to learn.
Regarding whether human jobs will be taken over by AI in the future, that is certain and we cannot stop natural selection, those who are lazy at a young age will only end up poor in old age. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Miles2006 on July 05, 2024, 10:53:20 PM Contract workers also receive compensation but in a different form, not all companies tho but, the oil sector do pay a huge amount to an employee before he/her leave although some companies are not willing to pay due to their financial capacity. I don’t think this is the major reason companies no longer employ permanent workers, the government sector is a perfect example and I’m sure not every company will get involve with the use of an AI besides this is a digital era so I will urge everyone to partake in the new development.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Russlenat on July 05, 2024, 10:59:17 PM In as much as the use of AI is advancing day by day, there are still some certain things and activities that will really requires the supervision of humans. The use of AI cannot take over all part of the world no matter how rapid it might grow. Also, there are still some undeveloped countries which are still advancing in technologies today. So no need for panic over the use of AI. The fact is AI can not deprive anyone of their jobs. However, someone who makes use of AI can be partially be ahead of you in certain aspects. AI can not completely work on their own without the help of human to give commands, this alone means that human service is still highly needed in a company that chooses to use AI instead of human thou the capacity will reduce. People assume that AI will just takeover human jobs without considering the other aspects of it which involves costs and high costs of maintenance. And yeah, some parts of some countries can never experience development despite its advancement. Mini companies located in areas like this can not make use of AI and succeed. Even at the peak of using AI, only few out of many companies can afford it. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: passwordnow on July 06, 2024, 01:49:01 AM I have read Musk's thoughts about this AI taking over the world and taking over people's job. He said that once we're taken out of our current jobs and are replaced by these AIs, there should be a universal income source where we'll be getting our money to make ourselves survive with the current economy. It's scary to think of that time will come and how soon it will happen. But we as plebs, we need to do something for us to be secured with our sources of income. Maybe become a real life businessmen and aside from being a crypto investor, you'll take care of a business that's mostly dear to you.
Because if you have something in your posessions and you manage to grow that business, you can let your kids inherit it and continue it. Sounds easy but it takes time and once you become successful in making it as a stable business, that's going to be more than your job and you'll not worry about the AIs taking over the world and the job that we're doing. So, the easiest jobs will be taken out and replaced by AIs and machines but those complex and harder tasks won't be assigned to them and it is still us, humans that will get the job done. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Darker45 on July 06, 2024, 03:06:54 AM Yeah, AI takes away certain jobs. That's true. But AI could also add more jobs than it took. This has been the same story over and over again. Technological advancements are often interpreted as a competitor to humans in terms of jobs. Machines like tractors, printers, mixers, and so on and so forth have indeed been replacing jobs. But their invention and widespread use have actually made jobs easier, effective, and more convenient that it has developed massive industries, thereby creating more and more jobs.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Judith87403 on July 06, 2024, 06:09:34 AM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 Actually I don't think if that will happen because there are some certain things that we human being can do that AI can not do, though it can reduce some job opportunities but talking about making people to be unemployed I don't think if that will be possible. you know most of this artificial stuff doesn't last for long, you know dey make use of engine probably the engine can develop fault at anytime at this point they will still need to look for workers to replace the position when working on it. Not even all companies that can even accept that AI, you can't compared work that is been done by man and that of AI, there's always a different. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on July 06, 2024, 08:00:46 AM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. This isn't surprising with the advancement of AI, this is also good since it would reduce the financial constraints of keeping most unproductive employees around. I quess AI is only doing 70% of the work, leaving the 30% for specialists in the various department, you too can upgrade yourself to be part of the 30% who are not replaceable by AIQuote If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? If you cannot become an engineer, then become a marketing consultant, Business Analyst, or Seasoned Chef. The roles are non-stop and AI can never replace those who have grounded specialized knowledge in their fields, AI has only come to replace average workers, but experts are still in high demand to help manage and oversee the activities of these robots. This is not a time to complain about the emergence of AI because they are here to stay and keep advancing by the day, rather its time we all step-up to the challenge and develop very much specialized knowledge in our fields and moreover learn to work with AI and further increase our productivity and perceived value.Quote I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. Its not happening now in my country, but it is very much expected in the nearest future, this revolution is spreading speedily like wild fire, it would reach everywhere like wild fire and for those it has not reached their country, its time to start preparing for the Ai wave so it doesn't meet you unprepared. Contract worker is just a mere formality to put you on probation, if you're good you'll be given a longer contract that almost feels like permanent job or even made a permanent staff because The company wouldn't want to let you go. Quote I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. It does not happen that way all the time sir, companies look out for productivity and if the contract workers are more productive, they would retain them and reduce the numbers of their permanent staffs, or rather reduce their pays, forcing those who cannot cope to leave on their own.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ITExpert on July 06, 2024, 08:38:16 AM I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills. It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future.If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ancafe on July 06, 2024, 09:19:25 AM I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. Most companies accept workers who are not permanent employees and they prefer an annual contract system because there may be many things that can be done. I also don't know whether this reason is used so that when they are fired they don't need to be given compensation, but the dismissal should have occurred because of fraud committed by the worker, not entirely determined by the company without looking at any mistakes. Layoffs as you mentioned are much more rational because companies are experiencing financial problems and automatically they have to reduce workers.I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. Usually if a company operates in the field of product sales, when sales continue to decline, they have to take this step because they are unable to provide salaries. In this case, they see that it is more profitable to recruit contract workers compared to permanent jobs because when the company goes bankrupt they have to pay compensation. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Marvell1 on July 06, 2024, 09:22:27 AM I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills. It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future.If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? Yes, it's good or bad, it depends. As a business, AI will bring many benefits because it will help us reduce costs as well as increase productivity, quality...thereby bringing better revenue to our business. But for workers and employees, it is a threat because they can be replaced by AI. One thing that everyone needs to accept is that our world is developing very quickly and we need to adapt promptly if we don't want to be eliminated. Complaining or worrying will not slow down the world's development, so always seek to improve yourself, improve your knowledge and expertise. The development of technology will be a push to bring us to a more modern world, but it will also be a harsh elimination if someone does not adapt in time. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Ozero on July 06, 2024, 02:52:55 PM Yes, it's good or bad, it depends. As a business, AI will bring many benefits because it will help us reduce costs as well as increase productivity, quality...thereby bringing better revenue to our business. But for workers and employees, it is a threat because they can be replaced by AI. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: dezoel on July 06, 2024, 03:20:34 PM I am one of those who thinks that AI is gonna take away jobs and the economy is gonna take a bad turn if this goes on like this. The world is getting more advanced everyday and AI is is brilliant, a good way to make so much easier, a boss getting rid of secretaries while Secretaries getting lazy by using AI to generate her boss letters, business proposals and much more, it is not only affecting the world the workforce but it is also making people lazy, students are starting to write their projects on AI, i know you will say there is a way to know if a student wrote their project with an AI or not but don't forget AI is advancing and for every program created to detect this another program will be created to counter that, but in the end everyone is relying on AI to see what and what not, AI replies emails, AI drives, AI cleans, AI works in the restaurant, AI delivers food, it is only gonna get worse, people are losing their jobs and the more this goes on there is trouble for the future. My 2 cents, i have more to write but i stop here for now. There is no doubt that AI is advancing day by day and many things that used to take time to do before or would have taken a human to do, AI can do in minutes or seconds but despite all this, I would say that a human has created an AI, but AI has not yet created a human, so AI cannot compete with humans. AI doesn't have emotions, AI can't do everything, so no matter what happens, humans will still be needed.All the facilities that people have built-in AI are made for their convenience, not because the need of humans will end and it will never happen. Invented as it has been allowed before, it is now AI and in the future, something will be developed even more advanced, so AI cannot be compared to humans. Yes, we can say that ever since AI has been created many tasks have become easier. And the reason for its popularity is that it solves a lot of problems in seconds but remember that all these things are fed by a human, the AI has not done anything with its own mind. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: shield132 on July 06, 2024, 07:17:35 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. I think that at first, rich countries will be able to buy AI robots and make them work. These rich countries will give pensions to people who don't work because we can't kill them, they need money and food to survive. The business will make lots of profit and save employees but this is a very long-term plan because these AI robots will be very expensive and far from being affordable. It will take years to perfect them and integrate them into workspaces. When that happens, humans will be able to live without working.If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 AI will be slowly integrated into poor and developing countries. I assume that their governments will think about giving pensions to their citizens but pensions in poor countries will be much lower than in rich nations. That's how our lives will change with AI. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: dunfida on July 06, 2024, 09:57:54 PM I am one of those who thinks that AI is gonna take away jobs and the economy is gonna take a bad turn if this goes on like this. The world is getting more advanced everyday and AI is is brilliant, a good way to make so much easier, a boss getting rid of secretaries while Secretaries getting lazy by using AI to generate her boss letters, business proposals and much more, it is not only affecting the world the workforce but it is also making people lazy, students are starting to write their projects on AI, i know you will say there is a way to know if a student wrote their project with an AI or not but don't forget AI is advancing and for every program created to detect this another program will be created to counter that, but in the end everyone is relying on AI to see what and what not, AI replies emails, AI drives, AI cleans, AI works in the restaurant, AI delivers food, it is only gonna get worse, people are losing their jobs and the more this goes on there is trouble for the future. My 2 cents, i have more to write but i stop here for now. There is no doubt that AI is advancing day by day and many things that used to take time to do before or would have taken a human to do, AI can do in minutes or seconds but despite all this, I would say that a human has created an AI, but AI has not yet created a human, so AI cannot compete with humans. AI doesn't have emotions, AI can't do everything, so no matter what happens, humans will still be needed.All the facilities that people have built-in AI are made for their convenience, not because the need of humans will end and it will never happen. Invented as it has been allowed before, it is now AI and in the future, something will be developed even more advanced, so AI cannot be compared to humans. Yes, we can say that ever since AI has been created many tasks have become easier. And the reason for its popularity is that it solves a lot of problems in seconds but remember that all these things are fed by a human, the AI has not done anything with its own mind. and better but just like with other words above by people that there are really those jobs on which it cant really be replaced with some AI and still human intervention would really be that still significant. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: STT on July 06, 2024, 11:48:27 PM That looks like automation and advances in robotics more then anything else. AI in its purest take is software and iterative referencing self correcting learning processes, mostly its going to improve human interface and responses such as search results of online help bots etc.
The biggest people under threat from AI are probably help center staff who might do a very repetitive task of supplying information or standard responses to customers searching answers to queries. I have heard of automated fast food outlets because of the pressures to both pay a good wage to employees but also the low requirement for costs in cheap fast food. The conflict in costs will require greater efficiency and it might well come from excluding having so many people in the processes. Do you really lament people having to sit by a pan of boiling oil all day straining off chips, humans are made for better things then this in their jobs even. I find it to be a good thing and you should not doubt that people will find more useful work when this job becomes unneeded manual labor just like the old Victorian farm work was replaced by machinery. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Marvell1 on July 07, 2024, 08:41:28 AM Yes, it's good or bad, it depends. As a business, AI will bring many benefits because it will help us reduce costs as well as increase productivity, quality...thereby bringing better revenue to our business. But for workers and employees, it is a threat because they can be replaced by AI. Humans are the ones who provide data and energy for AI to operate, and if we stop providing those things, they cannot function. So I think this won't happen in our real world, it only happens in fantasy movies. Our real-world AI is much more pragmatic than the AI created by American science fiction movies. In solving specific practical issues, AI can greatly make our lives easier, and in particular, it will greatly accelerate the development of science and technology. On the one hand, AI can indeed replace humans in some types of activities, but at the same time, thanks to the successful solution of many issues with their help, new jobs and new professions will be created. People's living and working conditions will quickly change towards comfort and improvement. I think that there will be enough work for people even with the active implementation of AI. I agree, AI can take away some of our outdated jobs, but it will also promote the creation of many new jobs because it is a result of technological development, of the world, not a cause of the world becoming obsolete. I don't deny that many people are worried about the development of AI because it is threatening their jobs. But we can see that the development of technology also creates more jobs and ways to make money, such as many young people today can make money through YouTube, tiktok, facebook...And clearly, these are positive effects of technological development, and we should not deny them. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: eightdots on July 07, 2024, 03:00:14 PM I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills. It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future.If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? Even in the absence of artificial intelligence, employers preferred contract employees over permanent employees. They do not want to have problems with both compensation and dismissal. Since employers generally act this way, job seekers have difficulty finding a permanent job. This situation begins to become more difficult after artificial intelligence spreads to a wider area. Self-improvement always provides an advantage for a person, but this may not be the case for some professional groups. It seems that such problems will arise more and more as time goes on, but human labor must always be used and people must work at a job to make ends meet. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Yatsan on July 07, 2024, 04:21:23 PM Technological advancements are meant to make our jobs easier. Well, I do get the point that it is threatening to some industries but humans have things these technologies are not having such as emotions and rational thinking. These things will only be following how they are programmed and that speaks for limitations itself. AIs won't work on its own, it needs human to do its role still. Another reason is the outcome if ever this assumption is true. Would governments allow people to just die of poverty 'coz they won't be having jobs? of course not. We have to see things in a positive way than to overthink it.
Yeah, AI takes away certain jobs. That's true. But AI could also add more jobs than it took. This has been the same story over and over again. Technological advancements are often interpreted as a competitor to humans in terms of jobs. Machines like tractors, printers, mixers, and so on and so forth have indeed been replacing jobs. But their invention and widespread use have actually made jobs easier, effective, and more convenient that it has developed massive industries, thereby creating more and more jobs. Absolutely, opportunities come one after another. If AIs would occupy a workload, humans or workers would be able to do other things these technological advancements cannot and that's just it. Again, focus on the birghter perspective.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Egii Nna on July 07, 2024, 09:04:33 PM I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills. It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future.If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? That is where the problem will come from because not everyone will have that opportunity to work as an engineer in order to fit in and get a job. Actually, AI technology will have an impact on the industry and at the same time will bring some disadvantages to the industry, not only about unemployment, because it will still make the work more stressful than people who can come with failures, which might affect not only the industry. but the people that will be using the product, so to me, I don’t think it will be a good idea to replace employees with AI technology. It has its own advantages, but the disadvantages are higher than the advantages, which show no improvement and introduce poverty to society. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Rao420 on July 07, 2024, 10:56:17 PM I reckon the coming of AI may cause more damage. Because the advent of AI is affecting different jobs and some jobs are disappearing, but new jobs are also being created. And its use is changing ways of working, creating challenges for some. If it is not used carefully, the world may need it.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Muba20 on July 07, 2024, 11:56:06 PM Rather than trying to answer the question of whether this AI will unemployed humans, it might be a better way to make ourselves receptive to that. Since this AI has been able to bring big changes worldwide and is constantly evolving, we have to adapt to how perfect the work we do in reality is. There is no way to say no about. Those who are knowledgeable will definitely try to use this technology. And those of us who are employed or involved in any work must also do how to use that technology to hold our position. But there is definitely a big change coming in the workplace. Those who are not fully skilled will lose their jobs.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on July 08, 2024, 01:41:19 AM I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. Most companies accept workers who are not permanent employees and they prefer an annual contract system because there may be many things that can be done. I also don't know whether this reason is used so that when they are fired they don't need to be given compensation, but the dismissal should have occurred because of fraud committed by the worker, not entirely determined by the company without looking at any mistakes. Layoffs as you mentioned are much more rational because companies are experiencing financial problems and automatically they have to reduce workers.I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. Usually if a company operates in the field of product sales, when sales continue to decline, they have to take this step because they are unable to provide salaries. In this case, they see that it is more profitable to recruit contract workers compared to permanent jobs because when the company goes bankrupt they have to pay compensation. - Here in our country, most private companies want those who are only contractual, and they don't want to be regular employees in the long run. Usually, the contract is only for about 5 months, and when the contract ends, they renew it if the contract is good but never make it regular because the others avoid the benefits that can be obtained by becoming regular employees. Also, in our time today, I don't think our government will prioritize that, because the unemployed is one of the things that every country is looking for a solution for. Maybe in the future, but not this time, and I think it will not be happen 100%. . Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: shinratensei_ on July 09, 2024, 03:24:30 AM I reckon the coming of AI may cause more damage. Because the advent of AI is affecting different jobs and some jobs are disappearing, but new jobs are also being created. And its use is changing ways of working, creating challenges for some. If it is not used carefully, the world may need it. arguably it's replacing 100 job and creating new 1 new job and highly skilled at that in which not everyone can get.not necessarily a good thing for people, since human population keep growing, the one that gonna get affected so badly are the developing countries with the highest unskilled labour. this will create crisis since the deployed countries will more likely to withdraw their investment and build factory that utilizes AI and robotic means. the future is really uncertain, and there's so many scenario where low income class people getting affected the most, best way to do for now is to be skilled labour by having higher education. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Kakmakr on July 09, 2024, 06:11:18 AM AI can also be beneficial for the human race, because it can free us to concentrate on things that are more important.
Most people are working between 8 to 10 hours a day, doing something repetative, that most AI can do. Let's say AI can be used to "free" up some time for people to study or learn new skills and also to enjoy life more. Why should people work 8 to 10 hour shifts in a low paying job, if they can do something better with their time. (Higher production = more taxes for the government and more taxes can be used to pay for the skill improvement of the human race.) Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: iBaba on July 09, 2024, 06:14:37 AM I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills. It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future. You've just mentioned it. I don't believe that AI is a threat to people's job. Although, anything that has advantages must surely have some level of disadvantages. However, AI jobs have really been so beneficial to the world as it has also helped job owners to optimize their jobs and challenged them to upscale their skills. For those who are open to learning and adopting new technologies, AI have come about precision and assisted creative people to work faster. For instance, if it takes you 30 minutes to design some concept notes for some projects, with AI being used with the right prompts, that can be achieved in few minutes. In terms of precision, AI helps you to get exact information or details. With the right tools in place, AI can assist you generate the right data analysis and become more data-driven. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Promocodeudo on July 09, 2024, 07:06:24 AM Farmers had used animals to plow their land. Now they are using heavy machinery. Those animals that had been used to plow fields lost their use or value completely? I don't think so. They have lost their value in one sector but they are still valuable in some other sectors. The same things will happen with humans, they have to adapt to the technology and new job positions will be opened that will require human intervention. Integration of AI in daily life won't replace total human intervention. It will just ease our work. I agree that AI will make work to be fast and easy for us as you said but I want to remind you that once an employer buy this machine and notice that this machine can give him what he wants without the help of anyone I must tell you that it will be a problem to the human race in terms of employment, we are talking about employment in general and the way things are going they want to create a machines that can do everything a human being can be employed for, don't you think that this portrays a great danger, the jobs available is not even enough for individuals talk more usiing AI to do jobs that are meant for individuals, this for me will lead to a very big problem, talking about embracing technology, although technology is good but there are some technolgy that are not suppose to be produced in a large quantity to avoid misplacing priority. The government can not even allow some of this things to scale through because they know the problem it will create in the society, humans remains the intelligent animals we know and there is know way they can be replaced with AI, AI can not function without the command of humans so AI can not replace people's positions, the idea is dead on arrival, it can only be used to help individuals do work faster and easy as you said noting else notbing more. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: barisbilgili on July 09, 2024, 08:26:21 AM AI can also be beneficial for the human race, because it can free us to concentrate on things that are more important. That's the positive side, but we also have to look at the negative side, there will be a lot of people losing their income if more companies use AI.Most people are working between 8 to 10 hours a day, doing something repetative, that most AI can do. Let's say AI can be used to "free" up some time for people to study or learn new skills and also to enjoy life more. Why should people work 8 to 10 hour shifts in a low paying job, if they can do something better with their time. (Higher production = more taxes for the government and more taxes can be used to pay for the skill improvement of the human race.) If you look at the profits obtained by companies that can produce more and also reduce the costs of paying workers' wages, it is very necessary, but I think this is unfair for people who depend on their work only for their living. Maybe not all jobs that have to be used rely on AI, you have to think about lots of people too as long as there is no loss of income/jobs. Maybe I think AI is better used for difficult jobs or jobs that cannot be done by humans (for example heavy work). Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: dunfida on July 09, 2024, 01:17:11 PM I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills. It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future. You've just mentioned it. I don't believe that AI is a threat to people's job. Although, anything that has advantages must surely have some level of disadvantages. However, AI jobs have really been so beneficial to the world as it has also helped job owners to optimize their jobs and challenged them to upscale their skills. For those who are open to learning and adopting new technologies, AI have come about precision and assisted creative people to work faster. For instance, if it takes you 30 minutes to design some concept notes for some projects, with AI being used with the right prompts, that can be achieved in few minutes. In terms of precision, AI helps you to get exact information or details. With the right tools in place, AI can assist you generate the right data analysis and become more data-driven. For going on POV of a worker then you would really be having those reaction or anger.but instead on making yourself that mindful about it,then why you can't just find for some solutions if you do saw that you would gonna potentially lose your work? Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Baki202 on July 09, 2024, 05:47:37 PM I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills. It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future. The disadvantages is usually more than the advantages and the moment AI is focused on their be a lot of problems, since people will prefer to us AI than pay people then the issue now is how do people survive because it’s usually no work no pay people will find it difficult to survive. And I bet you the moment people start going fully on AI and people are out of their jobs the way crime will increase even the government will not be able to control the rate at which it will go. Politicians are very selfish because all they want always is something that will favour them aside that one they don’t care because most of those companies belong to them. The thing will only favor them and not the citizens. The problem we are all facing globally is we that voted on reliable people that only care about them self. AI might make things easy, we know we can not do without it but rely on it is too much, their is no way it won’t affect us. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Silberman on July 09, 2024, 10:46:57 PM I think the impact of AI technology on jobs could be significant both good and bad. In terms of benefits AI technology will reduce costs and increase individual empowerment and new types of jobs will be created on the other hand, if you look at its disadvantages because of AI technology the jobs of many people can be lost, so people have to upgrade themselves and their skills. It is a fact that one needs people to operate the technology and those who scale themselves now and improve their skills will succeed in the future. The disadvantages is usually more than the advantages and the moment AI is focused on their be a lot of problems, since people will prefer to us AI than pay people then the issue now is how do people survive because it’s usually no work no pay people will find it difficult to survive. And I bet you the moment people start going fully on AI and people are out of their jobs the way crime will increase even the government will not be able to control the rate at which it will go. Politicians are very selfish because all they want always is something that will favour them aside that one they don’t care because most of those companies belong to them. The thing will only favor them and not the citizens. The problem we are all facing globally is we that voted on reliable people that only care about them self. AI might make things easy, we know we can not do without it but rely on it is too much, their is no way it won’t affect us. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: nelson4lov on July 09, 2024, 10:56:33 PM Most companies don't publicly say it but behind the hood, they have started adopting AI for day-to-day workplace activities and it's only going to get serious in the near future. Already there are very limited amount of jobs and with AI, the number of roles a company need (bare minimum) will still reduce by up to 70%. A lot of people say that those who adapt quickly to AI tooling will eventually be shown the door too as AI gets more smarter and knowledgeable. LLMs are continously pushing the bounds of what's possible and what's not.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: STT on July 09, 2024, 11:49:57 PM Ai will improve society for sure, there is no doubt in my mind that any tool which is capable of gifting a harness to the common population for computing power will be transformative. Its natural to fear because its harder to see over the horizon and people fear what they cannot see.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: avp2306 on July 10, 2024, 08:14:17 AM Ai will improve society for sure, there is no doubt in my mind that any tool which is capable of gifting a harness to the common population for computing power will be transformative. Its natural to fear because its harder to see over the horizon and people fear what they cannot see. Like the existence of machineries where lots of people got afraid to lose their jobs because it can automate certain things needed to perform and it can mass produce product in short period of time but nothing happens. People still got a job and human interaction towards certain task is irreplaceable. Maybe there are certain job s will be affected but provably that it cannot hurt the whole work force and employer will put those affected people to other work task. People should not get feared unless they experience the effect of technology since if they thinking about anything didn't happened yet then they are just giving their selves a confusion or stress. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on July 10, 2024, 08:22:51 AM Most companies don't publicly say it but behind the hood, they have started adopting AI for day-to-day workplace activities and it's only going to get serious in the near future. Already there are very limited amount of jobs and with AI, the number of roles a company need (bare minimum) will still reduce by up to 70%. A lot of people say that those who adapt quickly to AI tooling will eventually be shown the door too as AI gets more smarter and knowledgeable. LLMs are continously pushing the bounds of what's possible and what's not. AI tools are great and all but honestly, we haven't reached at that point where LLM could work seamlessly, despite the billions of parameter supplied to the LLM model often time there are many hallucinations coming from the LLM model therefore still not a reliable tool to be used for industry yet.at best currently it works like simple tool that helps doing repetitive work but that's about it, not to mention copyright infringement risk with the use of AI that train from data not obtained in a good manner so from the view point of industrial sector, the use of AI honestly still not that much beneficial. overall, I think most companies using AI under the hood is because they still so uncertain with the legality aspect of the AI itself, not to mention the use of AI is depicted as not morally good since it means there's lays off. but yeah, moving forward, these LLM models will just get better, it's just matter of time, the billions of money poured into the AI industry will just further speed up the process. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: iv4n on July 10, 2024, 08:52:52 AM ... LLMs are continously pushing the bounds of what's possible and what's not. It pushes the boundaries in all directions, both good and bad. Every technology has pros & cons, and many technological advances seem to be used for the wrong purposes. The older I get, the less I like the direction in which it's going, I wonder where the progress will end and when we will dedicate ourselves more to people and nature. The fact is that some technologies that exist do more bad things than contribute to the betterment of all people and this world we live in, in which our children and future generations should live. In the end, the vast majority of companies only think about profit... they don't think about whether something is good, ethically, and morally correct. All that matters is profit and figuring out ways to make even more profit in the future. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: retreat on July 10, 2024, 12:17:09 PM We cannot avoid the development of AI, it is something we have to accept whether we like it or not. But even though it is developing and getting smarter every day, it is not able to beat humans, because AI is based on the data and information it obtains and it does not have feelings and conscience like a human in general. So even though in some sectors there will be jobs taken over by AI, there are limits to that and not all jobs will be taken over by AI - and it is very likely that there will be new jobs that will be created.
But that doesn't mean that we don't need to pay attention to this, because AI technology can be a double-edged sword and the government needs to regulate it before it harms society. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Reredmi896 on July 10, 2024, 01:09:16 PM We cannot avoid the development of AI, it is something we have to accept whether we like it or not. But even though it is developing and getting smarter every day, it is not able to beat humans, because AI is based on the data and information it obtains and it does not have feelings and conscience like a human in general. So even though in some sectors there will be jobs taken over by AI, there are limits to that and not all jobs will be taken over by AI - and it is very likely that there will be new jobs that will be created. we cannot avoid the development of the times which will always develop every year, many industries use AI services to mass produce their products, or in other sectors, we cannot avoid this, as you explained, we have to accept that,But that doesn't mean that we don't need to pay attention to this, because AI technology can be a double-edged sword and the government needs to regulate it before it harms society. as an industrial or other business owner who uses AI, you will benefit from AI because it can reduce operational costs, on the other hand there are workers who become victims, but with AI there will be new jobs created, this will also be profitable and As workers, we are required to always be creative in developing our talents in our work, so that stability is maintained and AI should be focused on heavy work or other difficult jobs. and the government must step in to regulate this in order to maintain stability. and it is not impossible that if the government turns a blind eye to the existence of AI, it will make the economy of some communities unstable. The government must immediately find a solution to this Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Lanatsa on July 10, 2024, 01:11:09 PM We cannot avoid the development of AI, it is something we have to accept whether we like it or not. But even though it is developing and getting smarter every day, it is not able to beat humans, because AI is based on the data and information it obtains and it does not have feelings and conscience like a human in general. So even though in some sectors there will be jobs taken over by AI, there are limits to that and not all jobs will be taken over by AI - and it is very likely that there will be new jobs that will be created. It's inevitable and this is something that you should that make yourself accept such reality.Just like other people been saying that if you do find yourself having some hints or doubts that you would be laid off then it would be better that you should be finding options on which you could be able to earn in other methods or ways.We do know that technology will really be getting advanced on and any possible integrations could really happen in a business on which it would be understandable that there would be someone that will really be that affected.But that doesn't mean that we don't need to pay attention to this, because AI technology can be a double-edged sword and the government needs to regulate it before it harms society. There would really be things that would be affected and there would really be ones that will benefit but just been said that positive will outweighs the negative, so it would really be just that fine. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: sunsilk on July 10, 2024, 04:02:29 PM In the end, the vast majority of companies only think about profit... they don't think about whether something is good, ethically, and morally correct. All that matters is profit and figuring out ways to make even more profit in the future. Ethics is gone when the business is being affected and sales have decreased dramatically. That's why those companies that can replace workers with AIs or robots have gone through that process because it is inevitable.And for them, they'd save more cost than to pay someone who can join a labor union and complain about work ethics and underpaid overtime. They don't need to deal with someone who might be a threat to them and will cause them money for cases that might file against them. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: erep on July 10, 2024, 05:56:54 PM Ethics is gone when the business is being affected and sales have decreased dramatically. That's why those companies that can replace workers with AIs or robots have gone through that process because it is inevitable. We would also do the same thing if we were in the position of a company owner who adopted AI so that we could save budget and work could be completed on time without any salary complaints from workers. I realize that it is unfair to respect human resources, but it is different from comparing technological developments in other fields. all work has been assisted by machines and times have changed, including company work has been assisted by technology.And for them, they'd save more cost than to pay someone who can join a labor union and complain about work ethics and underpaid overtime. They don't need to deal with someone who might be a threat to them and will cause them money for cases that might file against them. However, AI will not be able to do all the company's work and there are still many job vacancies for human work, but we have to prepare for the future with technological developments and we have to prepare skills according to the company's job needs. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: bitgolden on July 11, 2024, 10:11:01 AM I do not think that it is as scary as people think it is. Sure maybe in the future we may see a movie studio that makes movies by getting AI to write it and animate it, but we are not going to see AI breaking nuclear codes or something, lets not get there, at least not yet. Most people are reacting as if we are going to see the doom because of this but we are not going to see that, we are going to do much better without trouble if we focus on the right way.
We need to consider how that is not going to be all that simple, and we could make it change with time. I hope that people could focus on the part where it is going to improve our life if we know how to use it well, if we do that then slowly we are going to get better results. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: sunsilk on July 11, 2024, 11:14:25 AM Ethics is gone when the business is being affected and sales have decreased dramatically. That's why those companies that can replace workers with AIs or robots have gone through that process because it is inevitable. We would also do the same thing if we were in the position of a company owner who adopted AI so that we could save budget and work could be completed on time without any salary complaints from workers. I realize that it is unfair to respect human resources, but it is different from comparing technological developments in other fields. all work has been assisted by machines and times have changed, including company work has been assisted by technology.And for them, they'd save more cost than to pay someone who can join a labor union and complain about work ethics and underpaid overtime. They don't need to deal with someone who might be a threat to them and will cause them money for cases that might file against them. Not that many of these kinds of entrepreneurs and businessmen are there, but I know for a fact that there are still a remaining few. Because if I'd have businesses, that's what I'll do. However, AI will not be able to do all the company's work and there are still many job vacancies for human work, but we have to prepare for the future with technological developments and we have to prepare skills according to the company's job needs. That's right, AI isn't capable of all especially the ones that are needed labor. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: slapper on July 11, 2024, 12:11:26 PM I do not think that it is as scary as people think it is. Sure maybe in the future we may see a movie studio that makes movies by getting AI to write it and animate it, but we are not going to see AI breaking nuclear codes or something, lets not get there, at least not yet. Most people are reacting as if we are going to see the doom because of this but we are not going to see that, we are going to do much better without trouble if we focus on the right way. AI is a damn mirror of us, our brilliance, and our neuroses, not some Terminator shit. Examining personal finance, guy, Not by being some robo-advisor, but by crunching numbers at ridiculous speed and identifying patterns we would miss, artificial intelligence can completely improve our money game. It's about arming us to make wiser decisions, not substituting for usWe need to consider how that is not going to be all that simple, and we could make it change with time. I hope that people could focus on the part where it is going to improve our life if we know how to use it well, if we do that then slowly we are going to get better results. Deep, buddy, the AI and human thing is quite deep. It's about creating a future that reflects our ideals, not only about code. Imagine AI guiding us through relationships or enabling us to decode the entire chaotic emotional range. That's guy, next-level connection! By concentrating on that, we are not only developing technology but also a tool to produce a more rich and significant human experience Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Finestream on July 11, 2024, 08:39:03 PM We cannot avoid the development of AI, it is something we have to accept whether we like it or not. But even though it is developing and getting smarter every day, it is not able to beat humans, because AI is based on the data and information it obtains and it does not have feelings and conscience like a human in general. So even though in some sectors there will be jobs taken over by AI, there are limits to that and not all jobs will be taken over by AI - and it is very likely that there will be new jobs that will be created. AI will be here for good, and its continuous development is inevitable. If it's not yet completely recognized this time, I believe in the future it will, and that's something people have to prepare. It could be a great competition for us more than we can imagine.But that doesn't mean that we don't need to pay attention to this, because AI technology can be a double-edged sword and the government needs to regulate it before it harms society. However, people will always be people, and without us, the world's labor will drop badly if they chose to rely for AI. There's still a big difference when it comes to works by AI and works by people, the quality will always be at its highest when done by hardworking and almost perfect people, compared to any AI that is still operated by a single person and just programmed it to the computer. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on July 12, 2024, 01:27:23 AM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. It's still too early to tell. We might need to wait another decade or so to determine whenever or not AI is mature enough to replace the jobs of everyday people. Even if AI proves to be highly-efficient and cost-effective (through automation), there will always be a need for the "human touch". I'd say AI has progressed a lot, but it doesn't pose a threat to humanity yet. When it becomes as self-conscious and aware as Terminator's Skynet, that's when we need to worry about AI taking control over everything. I don't want to live in a future where AI replaces humans. It will be nothing but utter disaster. "The future is not set", so lets hope for the best. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: DeathAngel on July 12, 2024, 05:50:40 PM I think we have to be very careful with AI but I don’t think it’s going to be taking a large % of human jobs any time soon. It can be used in the workplace to help people & as time goes on & it becomes more refined it could do certain human tasks but I think major concerns at the moment are not needed.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: justdimin on July 13, 2024, 08:19:23 AM AI is a damn mirror of us, our brilliance, and our neuroses, not some Terminator shit. Examining personal finance, guy, Not by being some robo-advisor, but by crunching numbers at ridiculous speed and identifying patterns we would miss, artificial intelligence can completely improve our money game. It's about arming us to make wiser decisions, not substituting for us I absolutely do not think so, humans have flaws, and while IA does too, it doesn't even learn that efficiently, it's still quite stupid, and even if there are a million promotions out there on twitter and instagram that shows what it can do, it's the peak point of it and you are seeing what it can do at the very best case by working on it for tens of hours, hundreds of hours, perfecting and even with that result is disappointing.Deep, buddy, the AI and human thing is quite deep. It's about creating a future that reflects our ideals, not only about code. Imagine AI guiding us through relationships or enabling us to decode the entire chaotic emotional range. That's guy, next-level connection! By concentrating on that, we are not only developing technology but also a tool to produce a more rich and significant human experience AI will never be like humans, it would never mirror us, it's just what you do by putting bunch of data to a machine, nothing more. It doesn't even "think" that well, it just does what you tell it to do, and in a text or image format. No time soon any AI would be able to fix your car, so do not be worried. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: stadus on July 13, 2024, 02:53:57 PM Most companies don't publicly say it but behind the hood, they have started adopting AI for day-to-day workplace activities and it's only going to get serious in the near future. Already there are very limited amount of jobs and with AI, the number of roles a company need (bare minimum) will still reduce by up to 70%. A lot of people say that those who adapt quickly to AI tooling will eventually be shown the door too as AI gets more smarter and knowledgeable. LLMs are continously pushing the bounds of what's possible and what's not. It’s undeniable that AI will definitely replace some of the human jobs in the future, most particularly those who deal with computer technology, thus leaving some of us jobless in the future. However, it could also mean new job opportunities for more productivity, so if you want to stay sustainable by that time, it’s better to reskill or upskill and adapt those job offers by AI, as simple as that.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Woodie on July 13, 2024, 03:34:35 PM Before we consider the downsides of automated systems using AI, I believe the benefits can be passed on to the consumers such as consistency in products which is something difficult to get with human's ::), labour costs will be cut meaning products and services get to become cheaper for the end user, less to zero Chitchatting, you don't get to see the employee that gets on your nerves, no strikes etcetera and looking at the benefits AI brings to the to table, clearly the benefits outweigh the cons and I don't see why we should fight this technology as it has been something we have expected to happen for several decades now and we are the ones that need to adapt with change!!!
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: wiss19 on July 14, 2024, 06:25:54 AM We cannot avoid the development of AI, it is something we have to accept whether we like it or not. But even though it is developing and getting smarter every day, it is not able to beat humans, because AI is based on the data and information it obtains and it does not have feelings and conscience like a human in general. So even though in some sectors there will be jobs taken over by AI, there are limits to that and not all jobs will be taken over by AI - and it is very likely that there will be new jobs that will be created. It's inevitable and this is something that you should that make yourself accept such reality.Just like other people been saying that if you do find yourself having some hints or doubts that you would be laid off then it would be better that you should be finding options on which you could be able to earn in other methods or ways.We do know that technology will really be getting advanced on and any possible integrations could really happen in a business on which it would be understandable that there would be someone that will really be that affected.But that doesn't mean that we don't need to pay attention to this, because AI technology can be a double-edged sword and the government needs to regulate it before it harms society. There would really be things that would be affected and there would really be ones that will benefit but just been said that positive will outweighs the negative, so it would really be just that fine. Or you could just go protest and try to get UBI a chance, maybe you can convince enough people to join your protest, and you could make elections a worthy situation. Make companies that uses AI pay extra tax, and use that money to pay UBI to people who are unemployed, like welfare. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on July 14, 2024, 06:46:16 AM The reality is that, AI is a "tool", no AI in the world goes out there and does a job all by itself, a person ends up using AI to make something. Which means that, just like any other tool in the world, you need humans to control and use it, it could make a lot less work force, meaning many people would be out of a job, instead of 10 people doing a job, you would have 1 people using an AI tool and do the whole thing. I think AI just being tool is just the early stage of AI, eventually with enough data AI can perform most of the thing that it previously can't do including self repair, invention and so on. It just matter of time until AI truly capable, bright mind like elon fear of AI for a reason I guess, even though some people might consider elon as just fear mongering knowing the controversy he has over the twitter, but I personally think that his fear stands for a reason. but yeah probably the only thing that could prevent people from being completely unemployed with no income is government regulation and maybe pushing for UBI is one, increase taxation for robotic uses. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fortify on July 14, 2024, 08:42:24 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. Eventually we will see robotics take over a lot of tasks and it should be embraced, although for the people at the bottom of the food chain it can definitely be scary. It's more important than ever to make sure you have a good education to take advantage of future jobs. Some of the easiest and basic activities are often robotic in nature, so replacing the people is actually more reliable for the company. The robots can break down or have malfunctions, but workers will go off sick and probably be more unpredictable over the long run. You need to embrace the change because businesses are constantly evolving and adapting, the ones that don't eventually get shut down because the competition eats them. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: nelson4lov on July 14, 2024, 10:39:11 PM ~Snipped It’s undeniable that AI will definitely replace some of the human jobs in the future, most particularly those who deal with computer technology, thus leaving some of us jobless in the future. However, it could also mean new job opportunities for more productivity, so if you want to stay sustainable by that time, it’s better to reskill or upskill and adapt those job offers by AI, as simple as that.As AI becomes smarter and more intelligent and knowledgeable, it doesn't matter whether you reskill or upskill, as long as any AI can do that same job much faster and cheaper, these employers will definitely opt for it. Except there's a major law put in place to limit how much work AI should be permissioned to do, that's the only way we can still get to have jobs. At a time, even Elon musk signed a petition for AI capabilities to be throttled and limited. If left unchecked, I can assure you that any and all computer-based jobs will be taken off the table by AI. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: OrangeII on July 15, 2024, 03:24:23 AM Before we consider the downsides of automated systems using AI, I believe the benefits can be passed on to the consumers such as consistency in products which is something difficult to get with human's ::), labour costs will be cut meaning products and services get to become cheaper for the end user, less to zero Chitchatting, you don't get to see the employee that gets on your nerves, no strikes etcetera and looking at the benefits AI brings to the to table, clearly the benefits outweigh the cons and I don't see why we should fight this technology as it has been something we have expected to happen for several decades now and we are the ones that need to adapt with change!!! Yes, you are right, that this will make it easier for someone to work. However, this might actually have an impact because now there is AI that makes difficult things easier. This will reduce the income of people who did that job before, and they will even be threatened with looking for another job because maybe AI will take their job. However, I think this really needs to be paid attention to and people have to adapt, because technology is there to make our lives easier, so we need to learn from it and try to find gaps to develop the work we have.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: dezoel on July 18, 2024, 09:40:10 AM humans have flaws, and while IA does too, it doesn't even learn that efficiently, it's still quite stupid, and even if there are a million promotions out there on twitter and instagram that shows what it can do, it's the peak point of it and you are seeing what it can do at the very best case by working on it for tens of hours, hundreds of hours, perfecting and even with that result is disappointing. This is of course the truth and anyone who took even a slight bit of interest would tell you that no matter how much data you feed it, it would never be like a human, and the fact that business owners could abuse humans more than they can AI's, that means they will keep hiring humans.AI will never be like humans, it would never mirror us, it's just what you do by putting bunch of data to a machine, nothing more. It doesn't even "think" that well, it just does what you tell it to do, and in a text or image format. No time soon any AI would be able to fix your car, so do not be worried. It is not even about efficiency, I think it is more about the fact that you can make humans work harder, and that stress and quality combined makes a better product, whereas AI has no pushback, which creates tasteless, generic stuff. Anyone who used midjourney will be able to tell you that now, and I guarantee you that the same will be true in 10 years too. It will be much better sure, but it will not be taking our jobs, not anytime soon at all. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on July 18, 2024, 12:33:08 PM As AI becomes smarter and more intelligent and knowledgeable, it doesn't matter whether you reskill or upskill, as long as any AI can do that same job much faster and cheaper, these employers will definitely opt for it. Except there's a major law put in place to limit how much work AI should be permissioned to do, that's the only way we can still get to have jobs. At a time, even Elon musk signed a petition for AI capabilities to be throttled and limited. If left unchecked, I can assure you that any and all computer-based jobs will be taken off the table by AI. AI will go as far as the government allows it. With restrictions in place, it won't be able to take over the world. But if the plan is to empower corporations, then I can say we're nothing but doomed. AI will replace nearly every job performed by humans today. Individuals will be affected by this, except for businesses and/or corporations. If AI continues to advance, it could become a threat to humanity like Terminator's Skynet. How long will it take for AI to mature, is an excellent question. I certainly wouldn't want to live in a world dominated by AI. Would you? :( Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Juse14 on July 18, 2024, 07:33:40 PM Practicality and time efficiency are what everyone wants. And AI is here to answer these problems, and this applies to every aspect of life. The presence of AI can increase accuracy in analyzing data, the presence of AI can provide personalized recommendations, and the presence of AI can help in completing routine tasks. With all the benefits presented by AI, of course this can help reduce the time to complete certain tasks and increase productivity. This is something that most humans have been waiting for for a long time.
However, behind it all, AI has a negative side that many people do not expect, where the presence of AI can shift people from certain jobs. But despite this, humans will never lose their jobs. As long as he continues to think and try to survive and make money, continues to hone and improve his abilities and skills, then that person will never lose his job. Only lazy people will be replaced by AI and lose their jobs. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Mame89 on July 18, 2024, 10:55:18 PM Practicality and time efficiency are what everyone wants. And AI is here to answer these problems, and this applies to every aspect of life. The presence of AI can increase accuracy in analyzing data, the presence of AI can provide personalized recommendations, and the presence of AI can help in completing routine tasks. With all the benefits presented by AI, of course this can help reduce the time to complete certain tasks and increase productivity. This is something that most humans have been waiting for for a long time. Correct. The presence of AI technology has been eagerly awaited by some people because AI technology will make work easier and save costs, especially for jobs that are difficult to do by humans or if done by humans are inefficient. But once again, every time there is a new technological development there are definitely negative and positive sides as you said. However, we can overcome all of this if we start to make peace with this development and start to adapt.However, behind it all, AI has a negative side that many people do not expect, where the presence of AI can shift people from certain jobs. But despite this, humans will never lose their jobs. As long as he continues to think and try to survive and make money, continues to hone and improve his abilities and skills, then that person will never lose his job. Only lazy people will be replaced by AI and lose their jobs. Because technological developments certainly cannot be denied, but we must balance them and of course there must also be regulations from the government so that AI technology is not misused or can harm many people. The point is that AI technology should help humans, not replace humans. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: nelson4lov on July 18, 2024, 10:58:19 PM ~Snipped AI will go as far as the government allows it. With restrictions in place, it won't be able to take over the world. But if the plan is to empower corporations, then I can say we're nothing but doomed. AI will replace nearly every job performed by humans today. Individuals will be affected by this, except for businesses and/or corporations. If AI continues to advance, it could become a threat to humanity like Terminator's Skynet. How long will it take for AI to mature, is an excellent question. I certainly wouldn't want to live in a world dominated by AI. Would you? :( Definitely not. While I was a CS student, AI was one of the courses I took and can confirm that it is currently on track to replace humans in the near future. Since that ChatGPT announcement by openAI in November 2022, I know we were in for some trouble. Your point about AI only going as far as it is allowed by government os correct but only if it is done before AI reaches the singularity stage. Fingers crossed that it doesn't get too late before it is put to a halt. I'm a fan of AI and love how it simplifies our tasks and make productivity a whole lot easier but I'm not a fan5of the fact that many hardworking citizens won't have any more work to do except hard core manual jobs. Reference about singularity: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: lizarder on July 19, 2024, 03:05:46 AM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? Excessive fear can prevent someone from developing and it is influenced by uncertainty or someone's inability to keep up with the times. This world is increasingly developing with the sophistication created by humans and if we cannot adapt well, it will be difficult to keep up with the development process of the times. Unemployment is something that is feared for people who are not in developing countries, but for those who live in developed countries, work can be done using only a cellphone and just sitting at home.Poverty is a mindset and it will not end if they do not try to improve their skills. Remember one thing that in seeking financial freedom the concept is perseverance, independence and daring to take risks. If these three are consistently carried out, I am sure people can definitely get out of poverty even if they do not become richer. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: summonerrk on July 19, 2024, 01:43:17 PM I don’t think that AI will start taking away jobs from specialists and workers in different spheres of life. For now, AI is a crude product and the only thing it’s good at is drawing anime pictures. Pictures where AI is trying to draw reality look dubious, to put it mildly.
Also, the AI cannot come up with even a simple logo. Proof of this is that logo competitions are held on the forum, it turns out that even such a simple matter no one trusts AI. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: STT on July 19, 2024, 01:47:28 PM I can see AI fixing cars where the future cars are more about electric motors and far more simple in their basic makeup. Many mourn the loss of the combustion engine but in terms of durability and ease of diagnosis it probably will favor computers in this respect.
The thing that frightens people is not what AI can do but its growth, for decades now AI has been able to beat the greatest human at chess its not new. AI has great accomplishments but its failed to progress from set programs, the difference now will be its natural expansion to less theoretically rigid staid usage. If AI can help people decipher a manual or error code it might finally be useful in everyday practise and that is quite revolutionary I suppose. I do think its mostly about removing the mundane and routine tasks, this all helps people and society overall. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: YOSHIE on July 19, 2024, 02:37:37 PM Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Common and interesting questions, the answers are below.Quote The short answer to this fear is: No, AI will not take over the world, at least not as depicted in the movies. If you see a film, of course you are worried about Al's arrival, but that's not the case if you see in real life, Al can't make food, can't make coffee, can't cook and so on. AI cannot replace all human work, AI is dependent on technology that has been designed, for this reason the risk of using AI in all fields is clearly not possible, only high-tech companies, for the rest humans are the main thing. So don't worry, technology can't do anything without humans, just 10 days the electricity and internet will go down, humans can't still do it manually, imagine if 1 day the electricity and internet went out, Al wouldn't function at all. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: dansus021 on July 19, 2024, 02:54:00 PM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I saw the video and those are crazy but if you know this trend gonna be continue like that and if you ask Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? the answer based on my opinion is yes maybe some people would say AI can create new job but I don't really get it. If the trend continue we are gonna be doomed, If you look at any manufacturer they already use robot hand if you know some supermarket and restaurant start adopt AI like in your video to do simple job and cashier I don't know what next but AI is crazy good and scary at the same time Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Antotena on July 19, 2024, 04:03:03 PM Before we consider the downsides of automated systems using AI, I believe the benefits can be passed on to the consumers such as consistency in products which is something difficult to get with human's ::), labour costs will be cut meaning products and services get to become cheaper for the end user, less to zero Chitchatting, you don't get to see the employee that gets on your nerves, no strikes etcetera and looking at the benefits AI brings to the to table, clearly the benefits outweigh the cons and I don't see why we should fight this technology as it has been something we have expected to happen for several decades now and we are the ones that need to adapt with change!!! AI is hype, no doubt about that, they were cooked for everyone and crypto hype give them the audience they needed. If not that we are just trying to push a niche by all means, we have some robotic engineering that has been available for a while and because of the fear of them been going wild, they are been restricted, there are limitations t how you can explore them, this is why you see robots been commercially allow to use in the public places. In 2015 or thereabout, I watch some videos saying by 2024, we will start seeing cars that will start flying and things like that but today, it seems that we are all taken away by the new invention of social media like TikTok where people will rather do challenges to music and movies. We are going to see a growth in AI but definitely not the way people are discussing it, the majority of it are even in beta mode, not fully functional and accurate. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Mahanton on July 19, 2024, 07:56:57 PM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I saw the video and those are crazy but if you know this trend gonna be continue like that and if you ask Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? the answer based on my opinion is yes maybe some people would say AI can create new job but I don't really get it. If the trend continue we are gonna be doomed, If you look at any manufacturer they already use robot hand if you know some supermarket and restaurant start adopt AI like in your video to do simple job and cashier I don't know what next but AI is crazy good and scary at the same time that changes would be made. AI integration isnt something that could put up on that state. Yes, it could affect some workers but doesnt mean that it wont really be that beneficial. There are really just those things on which this is something that cant really be stopped considering that employers or companies would really be definitely be switching up on something on which they do saw that it could really be that beneficial and something that would really be that efficient into their business. This is why as a worker then you shouldnt really be seeing this as a bad thing but if you do saw that you could potentially be replaced up on your work then it would be that better that you should really be that readying up yourself at least if it would happen, but for now on which its still not happening then better not mind that much or you shouldnt really be that stressing yourself because it would really be just that giving off that negative vibe. The key on here is that you should really be that gotten prepared for whatever things do comes. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 19, 2024, 11:53:18 PM Everyone is disposable, no matter how important anyone thinks they or anyone else is to a company; that, coupled with (mainly public) companies' laser focus on the bottom line leaves me with no doubt that if an employee that needs vacation days, sick time, bonuses, or even a friggin' lunch break and can be replaced by AI, they will be.
I don't know if AI is going to make corporations run better, but if it eventually displaces enough workers, those people are still going to have to eat. That could lead to anything from an increase in crime to a massive increase in taxes (hopefully imposed on the corporations themselves) to subsidize assistance programs. At this point, it's all just guesswork. Fifty of us can predict 51 different outcomes, and it'll be the 52nd that actually happens. Nevertheless, fuck AI. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: jaberwock on July 20, 2024, 08:22:23 PM Being afraid of something like this doesn't make sense to me, it just doesn't feel like we are fearing something realistic. I understand that we are looking at something that will take some time, but we are also talking about something that is not really that fearful yet neither.
We are basically fearing what it can do in the future, we are not fearing what it does right now, and that is the traditional definition of anxiety. I do not feel like anxiety makes sense, because we are talking about something that will be very hard to do, it is going to do something harder to achieve. So all in all we could just see what we can do, and for that reason I believe that we shouldn't be worried for something that hasn't happened yet. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Silberman on July 21, 2024, 09:17:27 PM Being afraid of something like this doesn't make sense to me, it just doesn't feel like we are fearing something realistic. I understand that we are looking at something that will take some time, but we are also talking about something that is not really that fearful yet neither. AI is already taking millions of jobs, and even if the technology did not advanced any further, businesses will find a way to tweak it so it becomes even more powerful and it can take even more jobs, so I do not think we are exaggerating at all when we say that AI is a threat that can take hundreds of millions of jobs away, and even if all those people could find new jobs, something I doubt, it is obvious the majority will have to settle for way less money than what they are making right now.We are basically fearing what it can do in the future, we are not fearing what it does right now, and that is the traditional definition of anxiety. I do not feel like anxiety makes sense, because we are talking about something that will be very hard to do, it is going to do something harder to achieve. So all in all we could just see what we can do, and for that reason I believe that we shouldn't be worried for something that hasn't happened yet. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: bakasabo on July 22, 2024, 07:57:45 AM AI is already taking millions of jobs, and even if the technology did not advanced any further, businesses will find a way to tweak it so it becomes even more powerful and it can take even more jobs, so I do not think we are exaggerating at all when we say that AI is a threat that can take hundreds of millions of jobs away, and even if all those people could find new jobs, something I doubt, it is obvious the majority will have to settle for way less money than what they are making right now. Could you name some examples of jobs that were taken by AI? I have heard many times that AI are taking jobs, but nobody that I know and none of their friends were fired due to replaced by AI. If millions have lost their jobs, that would be a worldwide, but I personally dont notice much of unemployed. Such professions supposed to be from IT sector probably, but I havent heard that any complaints from IT. Anyway, it is obvious that progress is decreasing number of man labor, and replace everything with modern technology. I am not surprised that AI is replacing humans, but I am sure that humans will find work anyway. Anyway, people should not plan to work on one job for their entire life. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Questat on July 22, 2024, 10:57:28 AM As AI becomes smarter and more intelligent and knowledgeable, it doesn't matter whether you reskill or upskill, as long as any AI can do that same job much faster and cheaper, these employers will definitely opt for it. Except there's a major law put in place to limit how much work AI should be permissioned to do, that's the only way we can still get to have jobs. At a time, even Elon musk signed a petition for AI capabilities to be throttled and limited. If left unchecked, I can assure you that any and all computer-based jobs will be taken off the table by AI. AI will go as far as the government allows it. With restrictions in place, it won't be able to take over the world. But if the plan is to empower corporations, then I can say we're nothing but doomed. AI will replace nearly every job performed by humans today. Individuals will be affected by this, except for businesses and/or corporations. If AI continues to advance, it could become a threat to humanity like Terminator's Skynet. How long will it take for AI to mature, is an excellent question. I certainly wouldn't want to live in a world dominated by AI. Would you? :( While this can be a threat in the near future, but it can somehow serves as a challenge to all workers to become more focused and resilient in doing their jobs. That way, employers will find no courage to replace these people with AI, even though we all know not all human jobs are replaceable by AI. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: shinratensei_ on July 23, 2024, 04:29:52 AM Being afraid of something like this doesn't make sense to me, it just doesn't feel like we are fearing something realistic. I understand that we are looking at something that will take some time, but we are also talking about something that is not really that fearful yet neither. well by the time it happened people probably already losing jobs so i think its not anxiety but people starting to wake up.We are basically fearing what it can do in the future, we are not fearing what it does right now, and that is the traditional definition of anxiety. I do not feel like anxiety makes sense, because we are talking about something that will be very hard to do, it is going to do something harder to achieve. So all in all we could just see what we can do, and for that reason I believe that we shouldn't be worried for something that hasn't happened yet. with AI development that's so rapid it literally can replace massive amount of people in their job, it needs a system that could contain its growth, a system that will act as an intermediary to bridge the use of AI and also retaining human capability to make money through jobs. I think if people started to know that AI could be threatening to their livelihood, it's a good start, nothing wrong about trying to prevent disaster. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: barisbilgili on July 23, 2024, 06:25:34 AM Excessive fear can prevent someone from developing and it is influenced by uncertainty or someone's inability to keep up with the times. This world is increasingly developing with the sophistication created by humans and if we cannot adapt well, it will be difficult to keep up with the development process of the times. Unemployment is something that is feared for people who are not in developing countries, but for those who live in developed countries, work can be done using only a cellphone and just sitting at home. It is absolutely true that everything comes back to oneself to be able to adjust and also adapt to current developments so that many things must be learned as is needed in an advanced era like today, and it is true that there is no need to be afraid of this because if we If we want to try then we can get whatever we want.Poverty is a mindset and it will not end if they do not try to improve their skills. Remember one thing that in seeking financial freedom the concept is perseverance, independence and daring to take risks. If these three are consistently carried out, I am sure people can definitely get out of poverty even if they do not become richer. Poverty is quite difficult to explain, sometimes there are people who find it difficult to get out of this situation, even though we can eliminate a large percentage of poverty if we really try hard. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: bakasabo on July 23, 2024, 07:40:03 AM It can never be deny that nowadays, AI is starting to replace some human jobs, and whether we like it or not, AI will continue to develop and become more advanced, thus losing more jobs for humans but giving more job opportunities for AI. While this can be a threat in the near future, but it can somehow serves as a challenge to all workers to become more focused and resilient in doing their jobs. That way, employers will find no courage to replace these people with AI, even though we all know not all human jobs are replaceable by AI. Should not people just need to adopt to the situation when AI replace them in a comfort office or remote jobs? As far as I see it, AI replace mostly IT sector. But there are always jobs that require hand work. Just a quick example from my experience. Every time had to sign for car maintenance, there is a 1-2 weeks queue. For me it looks like this sector lacks of professionals or workers. This is just a quick example, and I am sure anyone could name a bunch of other examples, when they have to wait for service for some time. So why not those who get replaced by AI, move to those jobs? Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Natalim on July 23, 2024, 05:22:14 PM AI may undoubtedly replace our jobs in the future but there are still some certain jobs that are irreplaceable by AI particularly those social work jobs, performing arts and even those musicians and real life judges as they can never be taken advantage by AI. However, if in the future AI will be able to perform our own jobs, thus losing our own jobs but rest assured there will also be some opening jobs for other sectors which still create new opportunities for us jobless.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fortify on July 23, 2024, 07:56:08 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. There's no doubt that AI is making progress, but it seems that the media hypes it up and thinks that it will achieve a lot in a short span of time. It is happening incrementally and it may get faster to develop tech in future, but it still feels like we are decades out from losing a lot of the more manual jobs that currently exist. Even then, you may find that there are still plenty of service type jobs out there because people want to interact and not rely on robotics for everything. In fact we might see more people falling into service type jobs in future as more office type rolls are automated. All this is happening rather slowly, because while the tech companies might be making massive breakthroughs, the implementation is much slower to happen in the real world. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: stomachgrowls on July 23, 2024, 08:31:19 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. There's no doubt that AI is making progress, but it seems that the media hypes it up and thinks that it will achieve a lot in a short span of time. It is happening incrementally and it may get faster to develop tech in future, but it still feels like we are decades out from losing a lot of the more manual jobs that currently exist. Even then, you may find that there are still plenty of service type jobs out there because people want to interact and not rely on robotics for everything. In fact we might see more people falling into service type jobs in future as more office type rolls are automated. All this is happening rather slowly, because while the tech companies might be making massive breakthroughs, the implementation is much slower to happen in the real world. and there would really be those changes that will really be making things more convenient and comfortable to make use of on which the example is on this AI development on which it would really be having that huge benefits or something that will really be making life even more faster and efficient but we know that in everything which considers to be good, then there would really be always that disadvantageous side on which it would really be that understandable. There would really be those jobs that would really be getting replaced by robots or in fully automation specially on some industries on which it would really be that a bad news for those people who do work into those industries. This is why if you've seen yourself that you are on an industry on which you have seen that it could be potentially be replaced anytime soon because of this advancement, then it would really be just that wise that you should really be finding some alternatives or back up plans just in case if things gotten worst. It would really be just that depending or basing up on how you would really be acting according into such situation. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: eightdots on July 23, 2024, 09:24:06 PM AI may undoubtedly replace our jobs in the future but there are still some certain jobs that are irreplaceable by AI particularly those social work jobs, performing arts and even those musicians and real life judges as they can never be taken advantage by AI. However, if in the future AI will be able to perform our own jobs, thus losing our own jobs but rest assured there will also be some opening jobs for other sectors which still create new opportunities for us jobless. Artificial intelligence is not available in every business field. Many areas where human labor is used will continue to exist. Especially the fact that many business lines cannot keep up with today's technology shows that they stick to traditional methods. It is very difficult for artificial intelligence to show its presence in all these sectors. There are people who will worry, but I think there will always be a need for people in business. With the use of artificial intelligence in the business sector, different jobs will emerge. Just as there are many things that were before but are not now, there are many things that are now and will not be in the future. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Agbamoni on July 23, 2024, 09:27:00 PM Everyone is disposable, no matter how important anyone thinks they or anyone else is to a company; that, coupled with (mainly public) companies' laser focus on the bottom line leaves me with no doubt that if an employee that needs vacation days, sick time, bonuses, or even a friggin' lunch break and can be replaced by AI, they will be. I agree with you. Anyone can be disposable because no one is too important and as time changes there becomes evolvement in each area of specialization. If an individual does not upskill, follow up on industry trends, and stay updated on information in their sector then he will be left out soon in the system. People say AI replace their jobs for example graphics designer and website designer. But it did not, there are still a lot of designers out there and most of them are not hired because of the usual design they do but because they have adopted the use of AI to make their level of productivity and work output faster and more accurate. In a nutshell, AI only assists in making one's job easy and faster to do and not replace it. Because the AI still need humans prompt and management. I don't know if AI is going to make corporations run better, but if it eventually displaces enough workers, those people are still going to have to eat. That could lead to anything from an increase in crime to a massive increase in taxes (hopefully imposed on the corporations themselves) to subsidize assistance programs. At this point, it's all just guesswork. Fifty of us can predict 51 different outcomes, and it'll be the 52nd that actually happens. Nevertheless, fuck AI. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: lizarder on July 24, 2024, 01:31:50 PM It is absolutely true that everything comes back to oneself to be able to adjust and also adapt to current developments so that many things must be learned as is needed in an advanced era like today, and it is true that there is no need to be afraid of this because if we If we want to try then we can get whatever we want. Fear is natural because of human nature which is always worried about the process of his life journey. The era continues to develop, technology is getting more sophisticated and humans will think about innovation. We must be able to place ourselves in every condition so that we can adapt to whatever will happen in the future. Without any preparation we are not able to live a much better life and waiting for the process of change that occurs naturally is a lazy person's decision. Poverty must be seen as a way to improve ourselves and if today we are still in that circle then find a way to get out of it.Poverty is quite difficult to explain, sometimes there are people who find it difficult to get out of this situation, even though we can eliminate a large percentage of poverty if we really try hard. Don't expect help from the government or anyone to get out of poverty because in fact we ourselves must move to find a way. Make a business or anything to make money and keep doing it consistently because that is how we will be able to create stability regarding money. Do an evaluation every time we get something unexpected and fix it in a much better way. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: summonerrk on July 24, 2024, 02:29:24 PM Everyone is disposable, no matter how important anyone thinks they or anyone else is to a company; that, coupled with (mainly public) companies' laser focus on the bottom line leaves me with no doubt that if an employee that needs vacation days, sick time, bonuses, or even a friggin' lunch break and can be replaced by AI, they will be. I agree with you. Anyone can be disposable because no one is too important and as time changes there becomes evolvement in each area of specialization. If an individual does not upskill, follow up on industry trends, and stay updated on information in their sector then he will be left out soon in the system. People say AI replace their jobs for example graphics designer and website designer. But it did not, there are still a lot of designers out there and most of them are not hired because of the usual design they do but because they have adopted the use of AI to make their level of productivity and work output faster and more accurate. In a nutshell, AI only assists in making one's job easy and faster to do and not replace it. Because the AI still need humans prompt and management. I don't know if AI is going to make corporations run better, but if it eventually displaces enough workers, those people are still going to have to eat. That could lead to anything from an increase in crime to a massive increase in taxes (hopefully imposed on the corporations themselves) to subsidize assistance programs. At this point, it's all just guesswork. Fifty of us can predict 51 different outcomes, and it'll be the 52nd that actually happens. Nevertheless, fuck AI. This is true and this is the paradox of any such complex mechanism or technology. Yes, we can put robots in factories, we can see how AI creates cultural values, but who will maintain all this? For every worker noticed, an AI or complex machine maintenance worker will be needed. Thus, the qualifications of the workers themselves must increase so that they remain fit for work. But AI will not completely replace them. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: dunfida on July 24, 2024, 02:34:41 PM It is absolutely true that everything comes back to oneself to be able to adjust and also adapt to current developments so that many things must be learned as is needed in an advanced era like today, and it is true that there is no need to be afraid of this because if we If we want to try then we can get whatever we want. Fear is natural because of human nature which is always worried about the process of his life journey. The era continues to develop, technology is getting more sophisticated and humans will think about innovation. We must be able to place ourselves in every condition so that we can adapt to whatever will happen in the future. Without any preparation we are not able to live a much better life and waiting for the process of change that occurs naturally is a lazy person's decision. Poverty must be seen as a way to improve ourselves and if today we are still in that circle then find a way to get out of it.Poverty is quite difficult to explain, sometimes there are people who find it difficult to get out of this situation, even though we can eliminate a large percentage of poverty if we really try hard. Don't expect help from the government or anyone to get out of poverty because in fact we ourselves must move to find a way. Make a business or anything to make money and keep doing it consistently because that is how we will be able to create stability regarding money. Do an evaluation every time we get something unexpected and fix it in a much better way. Why would really be hating if we do speak or talk about progress or changes? Just like on what everyone is really that saying on here that if we do speak about innovation then it will really be bringing out that kind of benefit for humankind but we do know that in every positive, there's always a negative side of it on which its been stated about loss of particular jobs on which some people would really be affected but for the sake of those changes and benefits then it is something that inevitable and lets just accept this fate. Instead on freaking out yourself on having such change, then why not really be finding up some alternatives rather than cry? Agree into those words above that there would really be industries that will be affected and there are ones which couldnt because it will really be still needing up that manpower instead of robotics or in full automation. This is why it would really be that recommended that if you do find yourself on an industry which could potentially be replaced then it will really be just that sensible that you do look for other ways or alternatives. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: slapper on July 24, 2024, 05:49:07 PM AI may undoubtedly replace our jobs in the future but there are still some certain jobs that are irreplaceable by AI particularly those social work jobs, performing arts and even those musicians and real life judges as they can never be taken advantage by AI. However, if in the future AI will be able to perform our own jobs, thus losing our own jobs but rest assured there will also be some opening jobs for other sectors which still create new opportunities for us jobless. Artificial intelligence is not available in every business field. Many areas where human labor is used will continue to exist. Especially the fact that many business lines cannot keep up with today's technology shows that they stick to traditional methods. It is very difficult for artificial intelligence to show its presence in all these sectors. There are people who will worry, but I think there will always be a need for people in business. With the use of artificial intelligence in the business sector, different jobs will emerge. Just as there are many things that were before but are not now, there are many things that are now and will not be in the future. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Mate2237 on July 24, 2024, 06:09:33 PM No. AI can't take over human jobs and this question has been asked time without number. Even last two days in this forum. In 2009 Facebook, 2GO, Yahoo Messenger, Skype and other social media. And students Google Search Engine to look for information and do their home works and assignments. And this question was asked in classes. If computer will take over human jobs and we said no. And till today I still say no.
Computer is programmed and they can't produce what is not inside them but human beings thinks beyond what has been known. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: SatoPrincess on July 24, 2024, 09:48:28 PM No. AI can't take over human jobs and this question has been asked time without number. Even last two days in this forum. In 2009 Facebook, 2GO, Yahoo Messenger, Skype and other social media. And students Google Search Engine to look for information and do their home works and assignments. And this question was asked in classes. If computer will take over human jobs and we said no. And till today I still say no. AI can replace humans in certain roles. Tech companies like those you mentioned have cut down their workforce in the last four years and have automated those jobs. Companies are willing to embrace AI as it will mean less staff and less salaries to be paid. You are greatly mistaken if you think AI cannot take your jobs. However AI can’t replace humans when it comes to jobs that require creativity and human empathy because they do not feel and can only interact with humans in a chatbot manner. Computer is programmed and they can't produce what is not inside them but human beings thinks beyond what has been known. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on July 25, 2024, 01:50:04 AM It can never be deny that nowadays, AI is starting to replace some human jobs, and whether we like it or not, AI will continue to develop and become more advanced, thus losing more jobs for humans but giving more job opportunities for AI. While this can be a threat in the near future, but it can somehow serves as a challenge to all workers to become more focused and resilient in doing their jobs. That way, employers will find no courage to replace these people with AI, even though we all know not all human jobs are replaceable by AI. You mean like replacing artists? Yes, Generative AI is now capable of doing this. People can generate art by just typing a few words on screen (also known as text prompts). Models like StableDiffusion, DALL-E, etc allow this. And that's not all. AI is also capable of generating content like resumes, essays, books, and more. Not only the tech will replace human jobs, but it will also make humans more sluggish and dumber (people won't bother to learn how to do things on their own). I guess this is what governments and "Elites" want, right? Let's pray AI doesn't become much of a threat as Terminator's Skynet. Else, we'd be doomed. :( Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2024, 07:52:19 PM I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet. It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet. When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it. I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs. It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: lizarder on July 26, 2024, 09:59:18 AM Why would really be hating if we do speak or talk about progress or changes? Just like on what everyone is really that saying on here that if we do speak about innovation then it will really be bringing out that kind of Ready, hate or not we have to keep up with the times because otherwise we will be increasingly lagging and difficult to deal with the increasingly developed technological sophistication conditions. Every development and every innovation must have a negative and positive side depending on how humans can adjust. No one can reject technology or innovation that continues to develop because we live in a world full of new things, all things become an opportunity as long as humans want to adapt to these problems.benefit for humankind but we do know that in every positive, there's always a negative side of it on which its been stated about loss of particular jobs on which some people would really be affected but for the sake of those changes and benefits then it is something that inevitable and lets just accept this fate. Instead on freaking out yourself on having such change, then why not really be finding up some alternatives rather than cry? Agree into those words above that there would really be industries that will be affected and there are ones which couldnt because it will really be still needing up that manpower instead of robotics or in full automation. This is why it would really be that recommended that if you do find yourself on an industry which could potentially be replaced then it will really be just that sensible that you do look for other ways or alternatives. Alternatives that can be sought for how we should continue to grow when technology and innovation are growing. Technology is also not created by itself because it needs innovation and ideas to be created, why not think to create these innovations or why not think of utilizing technological innovations for the supporting needs of the work we live. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: DaNNy001 on July 27, 2024, 10:13:50 AM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 There's a possibility that this could happen, we can already see that ai has a lot of potentials to do a lot more in the future and as such some jobs will no longer require humans to it, but still there are jobs that can't be replaced with artificial intelligence, jobs that can't be done by robots or humans, it's important to venture into careers that would need human input only presently and also in the future, working online too has been improved by artificial intelligence, but not all aspects require it, for example wheat you do on this forum strictly requires human experience and intelligence only , identify those areas that can't be replaced so it doesn't affect you.. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: MissNonFall9 on July 30, 2024, 05:02:21 AM Being afraid of something like this doesn't make sense to me, it just doesn't feel like we are fearing something realistic. I understand that we are looking at something that will take some time, but we are also talking about something that is not really that fearful yet neither. What is said about fear or anxiety is actually exactly as you have presented it. And those who give more importance to the present can enjoy the present and can be happy. But over the ages people of the world have thought about the future some have thought for themselves and others have thought for future generations. So it could be that overuse of technology can be a threat to labor workers as artificial growth reduces labor which can displace workers. However artificial augmentation is not really a cause for much concern because if it is so harmful surely the world representatives will regulate the use of artificial intelligence.We are basically fearing what it can do in the future, we are not fearing what it does right now, and that is the traditional definition of anxiety. I do not feel like anxiety makes sense, because we are talking about something that will be very hard to do, it is going to do something harder to achieve. So all in all we could just see what we can do, and for that reason I believe that we shouldn't be worried for something that hasn't happened yet. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: EarnOnVictor on July 30, 2024, 07:01:59 AM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. The world governments are not foolish, they understand the importance of labour to the economy, and they often call world meetings due to the context here so that it will be moderated and regulated. The snatching of the labour force started many years ago unsuspected and one of these is ATM snatching it. Though ATM machines have better productivity than humans and can work 24 hours too, it still reduces the staff of banks whether we like it or not.If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. Initially, you might see at least 10 bank tellers in a roll in most banks in my country, but now, you may only see 3 or 4 active ones because the ATM has silently taken the job. If allowed to continue in many other sectors, truly, people will revolt as a "hungry man is an angry man." This, the government will not allow to happen as human lives and standard of living are more precious than that of robots and AIs. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Mahanton on July 30, 2024, 01:36:18 PM Why would really be hating if we do speak or talk about progress or changes? Just like on what everyone is really that saying on here that if we do speak about innovation then it will really be bringing out that kind of Ready, hate or not we have to keep up with the times because otherwise we will be increasingly lagging and difficult to deal with the increasingly developed technological sophistication conditions. Every development and every innovation must have a negative and positive side depending on how humans can adjust. No one can reject technology or innovation that continues to develop because we live in a world full of new things, all things become an opportunity as long as humans want to adapt to these problems.benefit for humankind but we do know that in every positive, there's always a negative side of it on which its been stated about loss of particular jobs on which some people would really be affected but for the sake of those changes and benefits then it is something that inevitable and lets just accept this fate. Instead on freaking out yourself on having such change, then why not really be finding up some alternatives rather than cry? Agree into those words above that there would really be industries that will be affected and there are ones which couldnt because it will really be still needing up that manpower instead of robotics or in full automation. This is why it would really be that recommended that if you do find yourself on an industry which could potentially be replaced then it will really be just that sensible that you do look for other ways or alternatives. Alternatives that can be sought for how we should continue to grow when technology and innovation are growing. Technology is also not created by itself because it needs innovation and ideas to be created, why not think to create these innovations or why not think of utilizing technological innovations for the supporting needs of the work we live. Changes is inevitable but if its for the sake of comfort and easy access and efficiency then i dont really see up this thing to be that so bad.It would really be just that as a personal point of view then you would really be thinking up careful on what are the back up plans on which you would be needing to do just in case. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Minor Miner on July 30, 2024, 02:52:01 PM I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet. It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet. When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it. I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs. It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things. I don't think AI or robotics is in its infancy, everything has been tested for many years and it's time for it to be mass adopted. But I agree with you that AI will take away some of our jobs, but at the same time, it will also create some new jobs because they cannot solve all the jobs themselves without controlling people. This is simply the development of our world, let's look at the positive side instead of looking at the negative side. Just like when the Internet appeared and email appeared, it completely eliminated communication through handwritten, typed letters. But that does not make post offices or postmen unemployed, they will be assigned different tasks. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: lizarder on July 31, 2024, 08:39:08 AM Changes is inevitable and this is something that cant really be avoided and this is why if you do see yourself having those potential problems in the future about getting laid off with your job and replaced by something automation then the best thing to be done is to find up for another one, but of course you shouldnt really be resigning or quitting not until you do find that another job on which you do see that it cant really be affected by such change. It would really be that so hard to predict on what would happen in the future. This is why actions be made or plans be making up will really be just that depending or basing on how well you do make up some considerations basing up on the things that you are really that doing. AI taking the jobs of people? For some industries then it would really happen but there are industries wont be affected. If we do not want to follow the development of the times then we will be left behind and when we are not ready to face the sophistication it will have an impact on the life process that we live. The closest example is when the Smartphone was launched and humans unconsciously had to follow the trend, especially when talking about the future with a person's capacity to make money. Now there are several sectors that have been worked on by robots and all are operated by humans, only the limitations and number of human workers are reduced. So enjoy the development of technology and make it a motivation for us to adapt because no one is able to reject the development of the times and if forced we will be left behind and have difficulty.Changes is inevitable but if its for the sake of comfort and easy access and efficiency then i dont really see up this thing to be that so bad.It would really be just that as a personal point of view then you would really be thinking up careful on what are the back up plans on which you would be needing to do just in case. Humans are much smarter than robots themselves because they were created by humans but it is impossible to group them comprehensively about intelligence for each person. Then what will prevent humans from developing and adapting, of course unnecessary fear because humans actually have much better abilities than robots themselves. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on July 31, 2024, 08:51:55 PM I don't think AI or robotics is in its infancy, everything has been tested for many years and it's time for it to be mass adopted. But I agree with you that AI will take away some of our jobs, but at the same time, it will also create some new jobs because they cannot solve all the jobs themselves without controlling people. This is simply the development of our world, let's look at the positive side instead of looking at the negative side. Just like when the Internet appeared and email appeared, it completely eliminated communication through handwritten, typed letters. But that does not make post offices or postmen unemployed, they will be assigned different tasks. AI will get worse once Quantum Computing takes the world by storm. Even with all the buzz surrounding AI, it has a long road ahead before it can replace everyday human jobs. So yes, it's still in its infancy. Same as Bitcoin which is only 15 years old. New technologies take time to develop and improve until they become a "force to reckon with". It's in the "Elites" plan to save costs and improve efficiency via the use of AI. We will need to find other ways to generate income in a fully-digitized world. Which AI will take over the world, is an excellent question. It could be Elon Musk's Grok AI, Google's Gemini AI, or even Microsoft's Co-Pilot AI. The one that proves to be superior will be the one that will rule the world. Hopefully, it won't be Elon Musk's AI, or we'd be doomed. :D Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Argoo on September 10, 2024, 06:20:41 AM I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet. It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet. When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it. I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs. It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things. One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: JeffBrad12 on September 11, 2024, 12:43:49 AM One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future. I don't believe there will be enough work for people at all times like you mentioned, AI will replace many people and there will be job crisis.some people said with every new technology there will be new job open up, but they don't seem to understand that the new job is too specialized for the average people and the job are getting fewer in amount, company employ AI to reduce company expense at the cost of reducing the job. there's no way company will open up job for the sake of opening up job to feel morally good after doing significant change to their company employing AI with the sole purpose of reducing employees. AI is only useful for people that can afford it. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Su-asa on September 12, 2024, 08:20:23 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 This is something that's causing a bit of tension in today's world but the best thing to do is pick a profession that can't be replaced by Ai because whether you like it or not there are some jobs that will always require human intellect, effort and input. This is actually something that's real and it's definitely going to happen but artificial intelligence cannot take over in every aspect after all they were created by humans. People can't go to ai's for therapy so this is a profession or job that can't be replaced and it will always require a human to do it, just like this job there are several others too Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: 348Judah on September 12, 2024, 08:33:22 PM The use of AI is not with bad intention to place havoc on human lives, instead, it was intended that we should enjoy the best of making our daily work come easier, the start from the things we do online and in physical, there have been many inventions that were ready to make us have the best experience from how we engage our daily routine works, AI is something we should forever be grateful on, because it brings about the simplicity of doing things.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: rachael9385 on September 12, 2024, 09:50:27 PM The use of AI is not with bad intention to place havoc on human lives, instead, it was intended that we should enjoy the best of making our daily work come easier, the start from the things we do online and in physical, there have been many inventions that were ready to make us have the best experience from how we engage our daily routine works, AI is something we should forever be grateful on, because it brings about the simplicity of doing things. Yes it's true. AI has made works very easy, mostly workers that works in a digital company, an AI can help them to generate any image that they want, it will also help them through cyber securities. With an AI someone can easily generate any kind of content that he wants, mostly images. Actually, AI has helped a lot and it has reduced work loads. Back in those days when a camera man will enter an airplane just to make a video from a higher ground, but now movie industries doesn't need a camera man or a pilot to make a video, they can easily use a drone to video anything from anywhere of their choice. However this is just to say that the world is getting modernize and a lot of things are changing as day passes. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Smartvirus on September 12, 2024, 10:50:12 PM The use of AI is not with bad intention to place havoc on human lives, instead, it was intended that we should enjoy the best of making our daily work come easier, the start from the things we do online and in physical, there have been many inventions that were ready to make us have the best experience from how we engage our daily routine works, AI is something we should forever be grateful on, because it brings about the simplicity of doing things. AI has archived some major growth in its development and continued popularity, getting into various fields and accomplishing tasks faster and more efficiently. Now, we have robotic chiefs, cooks and most field of work could actually have bots to work its facilities to full functionality. If this would be a threat to people having jobs, no!We would need people to keep building these apps, AI, bots, coming up with innovative ideas for the next big change. AI isn’t going to do that for us, only humans can. Some jobs are better done by humans and that’s what theses innovations can’t take away. They are a mare accessory to what we would accomplish and nothing more. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on September 13, 2024, 07:32:11 AM One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future. AI must be regulated to prevent turning into a complete disaster in the long run. We don't want it to become self-sufficient, do we? If you've watched the Terminator movies, you'll know what I'm talking about. In a world dominated by AI, people will be more lazy and dumb enough to do things. That's what new technologies do. They improve our lives, but make us dumber in the long run. Who would want to take the time to learn how to do something new, when AI can do it all in a breeze? I know this is what the "Elites" want to maximize profits. It will give them more power/control than usual. Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? :D Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: bakasabo on September 13, 2024, 08:06:52 AM Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? :D Do you really think that would happen? Few years seems to be a very short period of time. We have to many jobs that require hand labor or a human to operate, as well as to have a creativity approach. Some basic jobs can be replaced by AI, but until we have queues for service or product, there is no way AI is going to dominate. And speaking about cost-efficiency, I dont know how much it will cost to prepare specialists, that will create a program that will build an algorithm that will replace a human labor, test it, build a machine that will do the task, but I think it will cost a lot. That machine that makes French fries that we see some posts above. It only puts chopped fries down in oil, pulls out and put aside. Still it requires a human to load fries. Still that machine needs maintenance. And I doubt it cost cheap to create it. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Asiska02 on September 13, 2024, 08:19:52 AM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? Don’t you think that the after effect of all this revolutionary technologies has already been viewed from the past before investing all this. I see that there are still limitations to how far this AI things will go and most people will still find themselves living the good life and getting their jobs like before. More technology means more demand for labour, so I don’t think it’ll make more people unemployed but rather make the workforce larger. Also, with new technologies come new jobs and new demand, and we've seen it happen many times in the past. People just need to learn to be more adaptable and to be ready to learn new skills to get new jobs, and things will be fine. This is the misconception people are having, where they get it allow wrong about new technological inventions trying to take over the works of the people. As the technology is thriving and we’re seeing new features yearly, so is the humans are suppose to be transgressing to be on the same level as the newest technologies and that’s the best way to survive and keep yourself relevant in this forever changing new inventory space. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ultrloa on September 13, 2024, 12:14:04 PM One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future. AI must be regulated to prevent turning into a complete disaster in the long run. We don't want it to become self-sufficient, do we? If you've watched the Terminator movies, you'll know what I'm talking about. In a world dominated by AI, people will be more lazy and dumb enough to do things. That's what new technologies do. They improve our lives, but make us dumber in the long run. Who would want to take the time to learn how to do something new, when AI can do it all in a breeze? I know this is what the "Elites" want to maximize profits. It will give them more power/control than usual. Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? :D Agree on this since to much adapting this technology will create huge crisis to humanity since it can take over everything especially those jobs which is important for people to survive. Being reliant on AI bring more downside that's why I really don't like to have wide usage of this technology even if this is so really useful to make the job or life of people easy. Those what you mean elites are the one who could benefit on this technology since they have more capabilities to do massive operation to create more better outputs by the help of this AI thing. If government will not do any action on this then lots of people will be left out and struggle to find good jobs since there would be a lot of competition to get those physical works available. Elon Musk statement is true and if there's no intervention or regulation done by government then provably that this will create a bigger problem to lots of people. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Hispo on September 13, 2024, 04:19:19 PM Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? :D Do you really think that would happen? Few years seems to be a very short period of time. We have to many jobs that require hand labor or a human to operate, as well as to have a creativity approach. Some basic jobs can be replaced by AI, but until we have queues for service or product, there is no way AI is going to dominate. Jobs which will still require human contact or human emotions are going to prevail also those jobs which require human creativity won't be taken by AIs. It won't take a few years, but as politicians do not seem in a rush to address the surge of this technology, I am afraid we will indeed see more and more jobs getting replaced by machines, for the sake of increasing profits, in the end, that is the mentality of the CEOs and investors, to cut expenses as much as possible and maximize their gains, greed from companies is what will make these robots widespread, even if governments try to regulate them. The first jobs which are likely to be take are those related to cleaning, management of trash, driving... among others, jobs which require imagination, human morality and empathy are the less likely to be taken by robots in the short term. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: o48o on September 13, 2024, 04:43:35 PM -cut- Maybe we shouldn't listen Elon too much. He doesn't have that good track record on making predictions: Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? :D * 2019 he said that there will be a million autonomous robotaxis (https://www.engadget.com/2019-04-22-tesla-elon-musk-self-driving-robo-taxi.html) by Tesla in 2020. * Hyperloop was a flop, yet he kept on hyping it up to the end. * Humans were supposed to be in mars by 2024 (https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/elon-musk-promises-spacex-will-stay-course-mars-n133971). * In 2020 he predicted that there will be “probably close to zero new cases” (https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-tweets-free-america-now-as-his-coronavirus-pr-1843149917)of covid 19 in United Stated by the end of April. * 2016 (https://x.com/elonmusk/status/686279251293777920): In 2 years there will be autonomous cars driving across the US I could probably keep on going, but those came first to mind. So believing his AI prediction doesn't make sense to me. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Oluwa-btc on September 14, 2024, 12:16:24 PM In as much as the use of AI is advancing day by day, there are still some certain things and activities that will really requires the supervision of humans. The use of AI cannot take over all part of the world no matter how rapid it might grow. Also, there are still some undeveloped countries which are still advancing in technologies today. So no need for panic over the use of AI. Exactly yes we know that the use of AI is widespread across the nations of the world but we can't underestimate the importance of humans before it existed, tho all this AI technology and robots are helpful in many ways to ease and fasten the work for man but I think it's not best allowing it take over every aspects of man's life. And I see it that alot of people that really love the use of AI technology are been reluctant and clumsy enough to do what's needed of them so they require special hands which they have made AI dominated. So in the aspect of taking people jobs I think it'll have a huge effect on humans and gradually the world at large cause yes instead of paying man for menisk jobs they'll rather make use of AI and robotics machine to carry on the task which will result to alot of damages. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: N.O on September 14, 2024, 01:57:10 PM I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet. It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet. When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it. I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs. It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things. One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ChiBitCTy on September 14, 2024, 02:30:42 PM I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet. It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet. When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it. I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs. It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things. One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.@Argo - AI DOES NOT EXIST. It’s honestly amazing to me that everyone keeps using this term, despite the fact that they really don’t know what AI or AGI really is. ChatGPT is NOT “AI”, it’s advanced programming. Also, it is SHIT. It does not self learn. It spits out different and incorrect answers to the same exact questions being asked at times. You can literally ask it the same thing 5 times in 5 mins and get 5 completely different answers each time, that aren’t correct. Also, it literally can’t even do a basic google search. It’s advanced programming in some aspects “Please write me a letter to send my boss as to why I can’t make it on the work trip” which is cool, but it’s so ridiculously limited. Also, no question AI (self learning/aware, autonomous) is coming. Thats a fact and a matter of time, like with quantum computing. BUT, neither technically exist yet. If you’ve seen the movie “Her”, now THAT is AI. That’s the type of thing we could almost assuredly expect from it, IMO anyhow. Like Quantum computing, AI will completely change our lives. It could wipe us off the face of the earth. It could take a lot of jobs etc. We can only speculate. I’m so sick of hearing that “AI did this” for mf everything these days. No, it, didn’t. https://www.newyorker.com/science/annals-of-artificial-intelligence/there-is-no-ai Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Lanatsa on September 14, 2024, 02:37:46 PM I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet. It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet. When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it. I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs. It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things. One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.when it comes on doing jobs on which as a boss or company owner then you would definitely be considering on having that switch up because you do know on what would really be that impact towards into your business on which it will really be something beneficial for them. This is why its not really shocking that they will really be having those changes and its not really something shocking kind of decision. They will prioritize things on which it would really be that something will really be that useful into your business and wont really be sticking into those outdated things. As for workers point of view then this is something that will really be that sad thing because lay offs or being that removed to the company would really be that common or something that will really be likely to happen. This is why on the time or moment that you do find yourself having such potential problems about certain industries that might be replaced with AI then as a worker then you should really be finding up ways on finding jobs that wont really that affected if ever that changes will really be that hapen. This is why on the time that you have those realizations then act wisely and early so that you wont be putting up into a difficult situation. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: dezoel on September 14, 2024, 08:58:31 PM I do not think that we are going to get any worse just because of AI. We will get worse because we are already getting worse without AI, people who lived in the 60's didn't had what we had in technology, you didn't have world wide communication for free just to give an example, you didn't have reach to information as commonly as today, but also they didn't had any financial troubles as much as we did, they lived a happy life, a house, a car, two kids that go to college, all paid for by the time they are 40 and so forth. They retired fine as well, while we are having trouble buying even a car.
So, without AI we are getting worse, would it make it quicker? Maybe, depends on how good AI gets, the way it is right now won't make it quick because AI sucks right now, but if they can improve it, maybe it will help quicken the situation. So far, I believe that the best case would be just focusing on what we already have as issues, and not worry about future issues. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Akbarkoe on September 14, 2024, 09:30:59 PM I do not think that we are going to get any worse just because of AI. We will get worse because we are already getting worse without AI, people who lived in the 60's didn't had what we had in technology, you didn't have world wide communication for free just to give an example, you didn't have reach to information as commonly as today, but also they didn't had any financial troubles as much as we did, they lived a happy life, a house, a car, two kids that go to college, all paid for by the time they are 40 and so forth. They retired fine as well, while we are having trouble buying even a car. If we look back that before digitalization, work was very easy and very comfortable, even just for work, someone who lives in a village can live happily and be able to send their children to school and have a decent life even though a car is a tertiary need that is difficult to obtain since long ago, but with the arrival of digitalization, work is made easier and automated so that job vacancies that can be replaced to increase efficiency and effectiveness of performance, many companies or other field structures are automated which makes the job market narrow today.So, without AI we are getting worse, would it make it quicker? Maybe, depends on how good AI gets, the way it is right now won't make it quick because AI sucks right now, but if they can improve it, maybe it will help quicken the situation. So far, I believe that the best case would be just focusing on what we already have as issues, and not worry about future issues. Maybe you are right that currently AI is still bad and cannot replace work, only helping work for the time being, but what is feared is when this AI can be better and can be employed by a company, then there will be a time for us to no longer hope for that job, we can only hope for jobs that cannot be done by AI at that time. My thinking may be the opposite of yours, that I have to think about how AI is developing rapidly and we are not yet prepared for it, so it is better to think from now on to find a solution on how to survive in the era when AI becomes an alternative for an industry to employ it instead of humans. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: STT on September 14, 2024, 09:46:51 PM The OP title is actually contradictory and its provable by reference to history. Many times over we have invented technology which has 'taken jobs' and every time its been a positive, even for the people displaced they gain overall as part of a richer society.
What this is actually referencing is efficiency which is the core of every successful competitive business. We sometimes fail to learn in life that not coming first is not failure, to run compete and complete the race is a positive. If we only go forward in life with the attitude that winner takes all and nobody is involved in the economy bar those at the very top then sure the tech makes us worse attitude will make more sense I guess. Increasingly people are empowered, if we can just shed this nonsense government deficit debt economy of inflationary FIAT it will soon become obvious. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ivankoh on September 15, 2024, 06:59:31 AM My point of view is that AI will change the productivity of labor instead of humans in some industries. This may happen in the near future. Consulting, online call center, ... are very likely to be unemployed and they will have to look for a change with other jobs. This will increase the unemployment rate for human resources in the long run. Something may have to be adjusted more appropriately, if we say that AI brings a worse world, it is not because AI brings high efficiency, stability, accuracy will help humans in a very large scope, each country will be responsible for balancing the suitability and applying AI to the general human resource situation.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: CK485 on September 15, 2024, 07:20:46 AM I do not think that we are going to get any worse just because of AI. We will get worse because we are already getting worse without AI, people who lived in the 60's didn't had what we had in technology, you didn't have world wide communication for free just to give an example, you didn't have reach to information as commonly as today, but also they didn't had any financial troubles as much as we did, they lived a happy life, a house, a car, two kids that go to college, all paid for by the time they are 40 and so forth. They retired fine as well, while we are having trouble buying even a car. So, without AI we are getting worse, would it make it quicker? Maybe, depends on how good AI gets, the way it is right now won't make it quick because AI sucks right now, but if they can improve it, maybe it will help quicken the situation. So far, I believe that the best case would be just focusing on what we already have as issues, and not worry about future issues. AI also has uses depending on whether we use it for something useful, and do not use things beyond that limit that will affect aspects of life, including AI, everything must have positive and negative sides that will be in the system, and of course it will not be separated from all of that. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: avp2306 on September 15, 2024, 12:23:14 PM My point of view is that AI will change the productivity of labor instead of humans in some industries. This may happen in the near future. Consulting, online call center, ... are very likely to be unemployed and they will have to look for a change with other jobs. This will increase the unemployment rate for human resources in the long run. Something may have to be adjusted more appropriately, if we say that AI brings a worse world, it is not because AI brings high efficiency, stability, accuracy will help humans in a very large scope, each country will be responsible for balancing the suitability and applying AI to the general human resource situation. Important for people to prepare in this situation since we there's really huge chance that AI will take over their jobs and for sure lots of corporation will prepare that since this will be the ideal technology to lower down the cost of their labor. So people should find good solution to seek for skills that can't replace by AI. Unemployment might really happen if that situation came since for sure we can see a lot more innovation from AI technology in future. Lets do hope that there's regulation with this technology since this technology can really affect human life in terms of job take over. There's should be a balance so there's no one will be left out around and people could still cope up with the market demand. Here are pro's and cons of AI in job market https://www.linqto.com/blog/how-is-artificial-intelligence-impacting-the-job-market/ a really nice article to read. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: DOH! on September 15, 2024, 04:49:28 PM For AI, the development may be beyond our imagination. I heard someone give a model of research, experimenting with AI robots fighting on the battlefield instead of humans. Lol, back to the issue of AI can replace human jobs in the future, of course it will be a battle of human resource management of each country to consider the level of application for AI? Somehow, the competition in applying AI will become a challenge for humans, because they will likely fall into unemployment. Even I myself have to worry about my job, so be ready and try to change, adapt.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on September 17, 2024, 07:30:05 AM My point of view is that AI will change the productivity of labor instead of humans in some industries. This may happen in the near future. Consulting, online call center, ... are very likely to be unemployed and they will have to look for a change with other jobs. This will increase the unemployment rate for human resources in the long run. Something may have to be adjusted more appropriately, if we say that AI brings a worse world, it is not because AI brings high efficiency, stability, accuracy will help humans in a very large scope, each country will be responsible for balancing the suitability and applying AI to the general human resource situation. Does AI have an infrastructure that would help it scale in the mainstream world? I think not. Not while some places lack Internet access, and classical computers still exist. The advent of quantum computing and satellite Internet will solidify AI's place in the real world. It will help improve its performance and global outreach. Until then, don't expect the tech to go anywhere. I know this is the future, especially when many companies are "shilling" it. Elon Musk's X.AI (the company of Grok AI) is one of them. The economy will change in ways you can't imagine. I don't think AI will harm the economy, but rather improve it. The benefits that come with such tech, are numerous. Perhaps, this will bring along new job opportunities in the long run. Every new industry brings new forms of labor. In the future, programmers, software developers, software engineers, AI experts/developers, etc will be in high demand. These are careers that can't be done by a machine. Technicians will also be necessary. People just need to "upgrade" themselves to whatever is trending at the moment. Only central banks have the power to either destroy or rebuild the economy in their favor. Who knows what will happen in the long run? Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: icalical on September 17, 2024, 11:13:48 AM My point of view is that AI will change the productivity of labor instead of humans in some industries. This may happen in the near future. Consulting, online call center, ... are very likely to be unemployed and they will have to look for a change with other jobs. This will increase the unemployment rate for human resources in the long run. Something may have to be adjusted more appropriately, if we say that AI brings a worse world, it is not because AI brings high efficiency, stability, accuracy will help humans in a very large scope, each country will be responsible for balancing the suitability and applying AI to the general human resource situation. It's no doubt that AI is going to alter industries like consulting and customer service by automating certain tasks, but it is not a job killer. Rather, in many cases, AI just complements human roles, making them more efficient. With AI handling basic inquiries at call centers, for example, humans become more important in solving complex, emotional tasks. Many jobs will evolve, and new ones will emerge, particularly in the areas of development and oversight of AI. The trick, of course, will be to manage this transition with proper reskilling so that people can actually adapt and move forward in the face of such AI-driven changes. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Kcrypto18 on September 17, 2024, 02:29:54 PM AI is definitely changing the job landscape, and it’s true that not everyone wants to transition to tech-based roles. But I think people will eventually adapt to this change and find new ways to contribute to the world. Did we not have similar concerns when things like advance machinery and the internet were developed?
AI also remains to be very expensive so I wonder if they will be cost-effective for smaller companies. They may not be able to invest in AI when you consider the upfront cost and maintenance of AI technology compared to human labor. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: STT on September 17, 2024, 03:53:59 PM All of Elon's claims you should insert a double size font and the word could . Its a maybe, its possible but is it profitable to rush for that objective right now. Have we found any point to going to Mars for example, its a very long way and likely involves people never coming back.
To achieve what, is the larger question on that whole list of tech maybes, if it doesn't serve society especially expect it to go nowhere . AI is not cheap but if its possible to utilize wasted cycles or processing power for a bonus or useful task results then it will be an ongoing growth sector. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: samiahmed19999 on September 17, 2024, 04:28:47 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 I have read your information. The country which is less population will not have any problem in near future because their country can feed them food. However, country like us which has population over 18,000,00,00+ will have more impact. The reason is that AI Robot will replace our remittance from Middle East. Then, if we get cheaper human robot from china then whole world AI Robot will be replacing except manufacturing countries. Obviously, high level degree will get job for 100 times salary then now. Many think that AI will not replace job but will ease human works. This is not correct if work become easy than why businessman will hire human. There may be more complex problem will come. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on September 18, 2024, 04:42:27 PM All of Elon's claims you should insert a double size font and the word could . Its a maybe, its possible but is it profitable to rush for that objective right now. Have we found any point to going to Mars for example, its a very long way and likely involves people never coming back. To achieve what, is the larger question on that whole list of tech maybes, if it doesn't serve society especially expect it to go nowhere . AI is not cheap but if its possible to utilize wasted cycles or processing power for a bonus or useful task results then it will be an ongoing growth sector. Of course. AI isn't cheap. Especially, when it's a new tech that's widely unproven. Like I've stated before, there isn't an infrastructure that would hold AI together. Same as EVs (Electric Vehicles). Without an infrastructure for these new kinds of technologies, how can we expect the masses to adopt them? Companies find AI highly-beneficial to them, but a lot of customers still don't know how to use it. AI is still in its infancy. It's far from being perfect. I think it'll take decades before AI can make an impact on the world economy. Just sit back and relax. I'm sure everything will be fine. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: JeffBrad12 on September 19, 2024, 05:10:24 AM All of Elon's claims you should insert a double size font and the word could . Its a maybe, its possible but is it profitable to rush for that objective right now. Have we found any point to going to Mars for example, its a very long way and likely involves people never coming back. elon is just scare mongering in this regard, he even also actively invests in various AI technology, his platform also AI integrated, but technology isn't all about increasing efficiency, AI can replace people but government can also impose law to prevent such thing from massively happening.To achieve what, is the larger question on that whole list of tech maybes, if it doesn't serve society especially expect it to go nowhere . AI is not cheap but if its possible to utilize wasted cycles or processing power for a bonus or useful task results then it will be an ongoing growth sector. if there's robot utilization, maybe government will impose higher tax to support lower class that lives in poverty, things won't turn dystopian just because AI exist, I think pretty much in the future once the regulation is already created, things will stabilize and AI will just become a tool, and replacing wokrforce with AI entirely might seem unethical. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ovcijisir on September 19, 2024, 07:02:06 AM Few years ago in my country there was opening of robot restaurant where special robots prepared food. Don't t know for waiters, but I believe they had human waiters.
Restaurant was opened for year or two, and now it's permanently closed. When this restaurant opened I thought that food served there will be cheaper than competition, because they didn't hire human cooks, but when I checked price list it was the same as competing restaurants. There was simply no upsides in comparison to other restaurants. Maybe for tech enthusiasts who wanted to check new thing, but I believe they did not have regular customers and when hype around it diminished it just closed the doors. So I believe that AI and robots will take some jobs, but only if it lowers cost of final product in comparison to competing products. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: fruktik on September 19, 2024, 07:48:21 AM It's no doubt that AI is going to alter industries like consulting and customer service by automating certain tasks, but it is not a job killer. Rather, in many cases, AI just complements human roles, making them more efficient. With AI handling basic inquiries at call centers, for example, humans become more important in solving complex, emotional tasks. Many jobs will evolve, and new ones will emerge, particularly in the areas of development and oversight of AI. The trick, of course, will be to manage this transition with proper reskilling so that people can actually adapt and move forward in the face of such AI-driven changes. As far as I know, quite a large number of people have already lost their jobs. For example, some analysts. Now they can easily be replaced by AI. In addition, there are other specialties that will be left without work and will now go looking for new vacancies. Most likely, they will simply need to retrain. It would be good if the companies themselves paid for this training, but this is not always the case.I remember a case from my life when, when getting a job, I had to pay for training from my own pocket. If I had not done this, I would not have gotten a position in the company. Yes, colleagues, this is also practiced in reality. Be vigilant about this. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: UTON Blockchain on September 19, 2024, 10:03:08 AM I can only say, you've underestimated the cost of artificial intelligence.Not to mention, they can be more "emotional" than regular workers, occasionally acting out in irrational ways.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: fruktik on September 19, 2024, 01:35:28 PM I can only say, you've underestimated the cost of artificial intelligence.Not to mention, they can be more "emotional" than regular workers, occasionally acting out in irrational ways. So you want to say that AI has emotions or something like that? If so, then I will hasten to disappoint you. No, AI does not have such a function at the moment. Have you by any chance watched too many science fiction films where this was possible? ))Yes, AI is developing at an incredible speed, but it is just an algorithm that has neither a soul nor emotional experience. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ovcijisir on September 19, 2024, 02:25:37 PM I can only say, you've underestimated the cost of artificial intelligence.Not to mention, they can be more "emotional" than regular workers, occasionally acting out in irrational ways. So you want to say that AI has emotions or something like that? If so, then I will hasten to disappoint you. No, AI does not have such a function at the moment. Have you by any chance watched too many science fiction films where this was possible? ))Yes, AI is developing at an incredible speed, but it is just an algorithm that has neither a soul nor emotional experience. Ai do not have emotions, but it has hallucinations. Just Google "ai hallucination" to find out more. It means sometimes it can go wild and give unexpected feedback on your prompts. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ITExpert on September 19, 2024, 02:45:47 PM AI is widespread, and I believe that it will continue growing, and so will automation in general. However, that doesn't mean negative consequences for the workforce and the economy. The last World Economic Forum report (https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2023/digest/) states that automation is happening, but at a much slower pace than anticipated. The current level of automation of business-related tasks is 34%, which is significantly below the prediction of 47% automation by 2025. Also, with new technologies come new jobs and new demand, and we've seen it happen many times in the past. People just need to learn to be more adaptable and to be ready to learn new skills to get new jobs, and things will be fine. Yes no doubt AI will be low but it is improving itself day by day if not believe you can compare it. And it also helps us in many things. See many things are said but not proved and if AI is misused in many places then it will not be called bad. For this reason what is benefiting us is not called bad but misused. Predictably, it becomes even more redundant and its employees can easily run their own home. Predictions are only for themselves and many places Google has made predictions and they too have been proven wrong. Obviously, when something new comes, this work will also be different and those who will work hard will have to take more of their share or not?Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: martinex on September 19, 2024, 02:52:28 PM As far as I know, quite a large number of people have already lost their jobs. For example, some analysts. Now they can easily be replaced by AI. In addition, there are other specialties that will be left without work and will now go looking for new vacancies. Most likely, they will simply need to retrain. It would be good if the companies themselves paid for this training, but this is not always the case. That's right sir. It's sad, on the one hand it's very helpful on the other hand a lot will be lost. Yes. In the future we will see many changes, the more sophisticated the technology used where all demand speed in completing a job will always be hampered by the capacity of workers. Yes. humans also have limitations, sometimes being healthy is okay, but if there are obstacles such as being unhealthy or being diagnosed by a doctor we have to rest for 1 month from work I think that will be an obstacle and if it is too long it will be considered a problem that can affect the company's income performance, especially if the boss is a workaholic and always gives targets. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: DrBeer on September 19, 2024, 03:17:22 PM 1. Progress cannot be stopped.
2. AI in the full-fledged sense does not exist yet. What is currently being passed off as “AI” - is just a huge knowledge base wrapped in a large language model, which acts according to human instructions and algorithms written by humans. I.e. it is just a great tool, but not AI. Yes, today's “semi-intelligent automated systems” will replace manual labor, and there are many reasons for that: - A human can TRUST or willfully perform poorly, an automated system will run for years without stopping and without demanding pay raises, insurance, sick days, etc. - with so-called “AI”. - The efficiency of work is higher and the costs and expenses of maintaining these systems are lower than for 1 person. - This solves a lot of problems associated with finding labor, which can be a problem for businesses. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on September 19, 2024, 03:46:53 PM As far as I know, quite a large number of people have already lost their jobs. For example, some analysts. Now they can easily be replaced by AI. In addition, there are other specialties that will be left without work and will now go looking for new vacancies. Most likely, they will simply need to retrain. It would be good if the companies themselves paid for this training, but this is not always the case. I remember a case from my life when, when getting a job, I had to pay for training from my own pocket. If I had not done this, I would not have gotten a position in the company. Yes, colleagues, this is also practiced in reality. Be vigilant about this. Those who's noticed this change and prepared themselves for it were not displaced. The people living in underdeveloped countries should start getting ready and bracing themselves because sooner or later the wave would reach almost everywhere and those who are not moving with the latest trends in their career would still be swept off by the wave of AI. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Antotena on September 19, 2024, 08:36:43 PM I can only say, you've underestimated the cost of artificial intelligence.Not to mention, they can be more "emotional" than regular workers, occasionally acting out in irrational ways. I want to agree on the cost of AI and their maintenance but emotional? That's a fiction bro. Forget about what you watch in the movies, 0 and 1 doesn't have emotions because they are machine. All those garbage shown in movies are promoted to make it sweet and real in eye of the viewers. More like marketing to me but in reality, the machines doesn't develop any emotion for anyone but do 0 and 1 continues as they are programmed unless abuse and reprogram to misbehave. Anything that has an advantage has its own disadvantages. If today we say they should allow AI to take jobs, they would never be able to take all the job. Probably will do 25% accurately, the rest will still need special intervention of man and I'm sure that government wouldn't approve this AI because of how abusive people are with data. We see how Google and some companies are sued with the abuse of informations of customers and their data. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: adzino on September 20, 2024, 01:00:33 AM Yeah we all have seen those automated restuarants too, but using machines in restaurants isn't really something new. Remember vending machines and fast food joints with those self-order kiosks? Those existed for decades and the only thing new is that they are more intelligent than they were before. I am pretty much sure you have already seen those videos where AI automated machine was making hotdogs and omelets. It was a pretty mess sometimes.
To be honest, I don't think AI will take over everyone's jobs though. There are things AI just can't do, like jobs that need real human creativity and instant decision making for complex situations. There will always be people looking after and controlling those AIs. Sure some jobs might change or disappear, but humans have always been good at adapting. People will be using those tools and AI to make their life and their job easier. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on September 21, 2024, 01:02:05 AM Few years ago in my country there was opening of robot restaurant where special robots prepared food. Don't t know for waiters, but I believe they had human waiters. Restaurant was opened for year or two, and now it's permanently closed. When this restaurant opened I thought that food served there will be cheaper than competition, because they didn't hire human cooks, but when I checked price list it was the same as competing restaurants. There was simply no upsides in comparison to other restaurants. Maybe for tech enthusiasts who wanted to check new thing, but I believe they did not have regular customers and when hype around it diminished it just closed the doors. So I believe that AI and robots will take some jobs, but only if it lowers cost of final product in comparison to competing products. I believe it's too early for AI to take over the world. It's just not ready for prime time use. There's a lot of hype, but the tech is far from being perfect. I think the only thing that will put the "final nail in the coffin" would be the advent of Quantum Computing. Unless that becomes a reality, AI's potential will be limited. Funny thing that you've mentioned prices at a "robotic restaurant" were the same as an ordinary one. Typical of greedy businesses. They will save money by using innovative technologies, but they will charge twice as much to get richer. The poor always get affected. I guess that's how the system works. And I'm afraid there's nothing we can do about it. Who knows how long will it take for AI to mature into a "force to reckon with"? Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Huppercase on September 21, 2024, 09:09:59 PM As far as I know, quite a large number of people have already lost their jobs. For example, some analysts. Now they can easily be replaced by AI. In addition, there are other specialties that will be left without work and will now go looking for new vacancies. Most likely, they will simply need to retrain. It would be good if the companies themselves paid for this training, but this is not always the case. I remember a case from my life when, when getting a job, I had to pay for training from my own pocket. If I had not done this, I would not have gotten a position in the company. Yes, colleagues, this is also practiced in reality. Be vigilant about this. So they wait for AI to be build and they sack some of their workers. There are many things that will happen later AI refused to go as we expected. A machine to minic what men can do only to take the job from them. They didn't even try to comfirm if they can work continuously with having a problem because no matter how it's design to help the human and take their chop, the AI work can't never be like human, what are they going to do about AI when the internet don't exist again. There is one aspect of AI I hate the most, the ones that create image for customers to use for contents and must pay for the images but they forget that some of the images created by AI are combination of other things. When you search for anything, the AI doesn't have the ability to do that unless it's searches everywhere on the internet and some looks abused by many users. AI need to he regulated very faster before they have to regulate cryptocurrency. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on September 22, 2024, 01:41:51 AM I can only say, you've underestimated the cost of artificial intelligence.Not to mention, they can be more "emotional" than regular workers, occasionally acting out in irrational ways. how is that? AI as far as I know is so efficient that it become the main reason large corporations are funding them by billions. You just need to rent computing power to run AI and thats it, AI could pretty much solve repetitive task in really fast manner that's why many people are afraid with the presence of AI it will replace the blue collar job, exactly the job where so many people are making a living from.the concern about AI is valid and considering that AI is made to do tasks and to have no emotion or consciousness to complain, i'm pretty sure its less emotional too, the very reason why the manufacturing industry might be interested in it. your word about AI occasionally acting out in irrational ways because it's still imperfected, but considering current AI growth, such thing will be solved in the future, more reason to have concern about it. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Argoo on September 22, 2024, 03:54:06 AM I believe it's too early for AI to take over the world. It's just not ready for prime time use. There's a lot of hype, but the tech is far from being perfect. I think the only thing that will put the "final nail in the coffin" would be the advent of Quantum Computing. Unless that becomes a reality, AI's potential will be limited. It doesn't matter much whether AI is ready to actively influence many processes in people's lives. This industry is very promising for development and it will develop regardless of whether we want it or not. AI is capable of finding the right solutions millions and billions of times faster than humans. In any case, AI will replace humans in many professions and in many workplaces. But I don't see anything bad in this. There will simply be a redistribution of labor. And there will be enough work for everyone, if there is a corresponding desire. But in general, AI will greatly help humans. In the future, when AI's capabilities grow, it will be necessary to limit its ability to harm humans, otherwise humanity will have big problems. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: uswa56 on September 23, 2024, 03:51:39 AM I believe it's too early for AI to take over the world. It's just not ready for prime time use. There's a lot of hype, but the tech is far from being perfect. I think the only thing that will put the "final nail in the coffin" would be the advent of Quantum Computing. Unless that becomes a reality, AI's potential will be limited. It doesn't matter much whether AI is ready to actively influence many processes in people's lives. This industry is very promising for development and it will develop regardless of whether we want it or not. AI is capable of finding the right solutions millions and billions of times faster than humans. In any case, AI will replace humans in many professions and in many workplaces. But I don't see anything bad in this. There will simply be a redistribution of labor. And there will be enough work for everyone, if there is a corresponding desire. But in general, AI will greatly help humans. In the future, when AI's capabilities grow, it will be necessary to limit its ability to harm humans, otherwise humanity will have big problems. Whether we are ready to accept the technology that is developing today, of course, we must be able to accept if we want to continue to develop and it is very unlikely that we can develop without accepting all the changes that are happening now and so on, and in terms of AI will replace human work as a whole, I think something is possible, but there will still be humans who have to carry it out, because without humans, I think it is very It is impossible, but as humans, of course we must have the ability to be able to adapt to the developing technology because if we do not continue to develop ourselves, of course, it will be very easy to be eliminated from the work we do. Yes, you are right, if the development of AI can hurt humans, of course this will have a very bad impact, of course everyone will not want such technology because it is very detrimental to the humans themselves who created it. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Smartprofit on September 24, 2024, 06:45:28 PM In my opinion, artificial intelligence technology appeared in our world at the right time. In the 21st century, this technology is simply necessary.
What is the main event of the 21st century? This is the slowdown in the growth of the Earth's population. In the middle of the 21st century, the population growth of planet Earth will slow down, then stabilize, and then the number of earthlings will begin to decrease. And this is a very important event. The entire world economy, the entire social structure of our planet is based on the constant growth of the population. Artificial intelligence and total robotization can solve this problem. Robots and algorithms will increase the number of earthlings and prevent the slowdown of scientific and technological progress. Perhaps we will come to a new form of ethical slavery (where robots and algorithms will be used instead of people - slaves). Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Lanatsa on September 24, 2024, 07:13:38 PM I believe it's too early for AI to take over the world. It's just not ready for prime time use. There's a lot of hype, but the tech is far from being perfect. I think the only thing that will put the "final nail in the coffin" would be the advent of Quantum Computing. Unless that becomes a reality, AI's potential will be limited. It doesn't matter much whether AI is ready to actively influence many processes in people's lives. This industry is very promising for development and it will develop regardless of whether we want it or not. AI is capable of finding the right solutions millions and billions of times faster than humans. In any case, AI will replace humans in many professions and in many workplaces. But I don't see anything bad in this. There will simply be a redistribution of labor. And there will be enough work for everyone, if there is a corresponding desire. But in general, AI will greatly help humans. In the future, when AI's capabilities grow, it will be necessary to limit its ability to harm humans, otherwise humanity will have big problems. Whether we are ready to accept the technology that is developing today, of course, we must be able to accept if we want to continue to develop and it is very unlikely that we can develop without accepting all the changes that are happening now and so on, and in terms of AI will replace human work as a whole, I think something is possible, but there will still be humans who have to carry it out, because without humans, I think it is very It is impossible, but as humans, of course we must have the ability to be able to adapt to the developing technology because if we do not continue to develop ourselves, of course, it will be very easy to be eliminated from the work we do. Yes, you are right, if the development of AI can hurt humans, of course this will have a very bad impact, of course everyone will not want such technology because it is very detrimental to the humans themselves who created it. majority could really be possibly done and this is why they would really be trying to make it use specially on industries that would be needing up that fast productions. This is why we could really be able to say that one day there would really be some massive laid off for human labor and would be placed up by robots on which this is really that a negative news for those people who are working on such industries. Somehow we do know if there's cons then there's really those pro's too on which faster production or doing jobs will really be leading up into more progressive economy on which this is something a plus. This is why as a workers point of view then if you do see yourself being that affected with this possible lay off, then it will really be that wise that you should really be trying out to make some side income on which that in case if these things do happen then you wont really be that worrying yourself since you do know that you could be able to sustain out or able to survive despite of such situation. Its important that you should really be wise on taking up decisions on which you do seem that works for you. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: lepbagong on September 25, 2024, 12:26:26 AM I can only say, you've underestimated the cost of artificial intelligence.Not to mention, they can be more "emotional" than regular workers, occasionally acting out in irrational ways. So you want to say that AI has emotions or something like that? If so, then I will hasten to disappoint you. No, AI does not have such a function at the moment. Have you by any chance watched too many science fiction films where this was possible? ))Yes, AI is developing at an incredible speed, but it is just an algorithm that has neither a soul nor emotional experience. Some may have work that can be taken, but there are parts that cannot be done by him. I thought about what between the difference at the beginning of a robot entering production and, eventually, it could be accepted and integrated with humans. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Dr.Osh on September 25, 2024, 02:19:31 AM Well, we have to realize that the development of technology is currently happening so fast. Maybe AI will make someone's business or work easier, so they might not need some people to do their jobs anymore. That can be good and bad. However, we all have to try to continue to adapt to this development. It's the same as smartphones that make many things easier, but make some of them unnecessary, or maybe drones, which can record from the sky, that's a good thing, but make someone lose their job. However, we have to keep adapting to this. Smart people are those who take advantage of the technology that is developing today, not complain about it.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: fruktik on September 25, 2024, 04:19:53 PM That's right sir. It's sad, on the one hand it's very helpful on the other hand a lot will be lost. Yes. In the future we will see many changes, the more sophisticated the technology used where all demand speed in completing a job will always be hampered by the capacity of workers. Yes. humans also have limitations, sometimes being healthy is okay, but if there are obstacles such as being unhealthy or being diagnosed by a doctor we have to rest for 1 month from work I think that will be an obstacle and if it is too long it will be considered a problem that can affect the company's income performance, especially if the boss is a workaholic and always gives targets. Many modern technologies of the present time will seem like outdated junk in a few years. We will only remember them with nostalgia.Yes, AI will now become the main tool of many companies that increase revenue by replacing employees with technology. The same thing happens everywhere. We just know little about it and are practically not interested in this fact. If you want, you can always find information on this matter. "AI Is Taking Over Jobs: 28 Shocking Statistics (https://mspoweruser.com/ru/ai-replacing-jobs-statistics/)". Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: uche6215 on September 25, 2024, 10:59:29 PM AI taking over humans jobs has a potential disadvantage for the world security and peace in the nearest future as AI is a time bomb waiting to explode because as they say an idol mind is the devil's workshop
So a person who's idol and don't have any work doing is as a result of artificial intelligence taking over his work is a threat to the peace of any society he finds himself Unemployment rate will increase which will in turn impact negatively on the world economy Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fredomago on September 25, 2024, 11:12:27 PM AI taking over humans jobs has a potential disadvantage for the world security and peace in the nearest future as AI is a time bomb waiting to explode because as they say an idol mind is the devil's workshop So a person who's idol and don't have any work doing is as a result of artificial intelligence taking over his work is a threat to the peace of any society he finds himself Unemployment rate will increase which will in turn impact negatively on the world economy It can be that way if people who will create or improve the use of AI have that kind of mentality, if they can't control things then aside from taking away that jobs to a real person they can create things that may harmed humans, it's more on the side that in each upgrades and updates there's always a risk that will affects human lives, we must take that into consideration that AI always relying with the people controlled them and program them to functions, even how good it is there's always impacts not just with human works but also with how they'll be program without any emotions. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on September 26, 2024, 07:54:02 AM Well, we have to realize that the development of technology is currently happening so fast. Maybe AI will make someone's business or work easier, so they might not need some people to do their jobs anymore. That can be good and bad. However, we all have to try to continue to adapt to this development. It's the same as smartphones that make many things easier, but make some of them unnecessary, or maybe drones, which can record from the sky, that's a good thing, but make someone lose their job. However, we have to keep adapting to this. Smart people are those who take advantage of the technology that is developing today, not complain about it. Yes. People should just adapt to what's trending right now. Being up to date, is the key towards success. Every revolutionary technology opens up new job opportunities. Take a look at the crypto/Blockchain industry. I believe the same will happen with AI in the future. No matter how far it goes, we can say nothing will be able to replace the "human touch". What governments and companies need to focus on is regulating AI. Keeping it from spiraling out of control would be best. We don't want AI to extinguish the human race (like in Terminator movies). Do we? It's an unpredictable world we're living into, so I'd hope for the best. :D Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: doomloop on September 26, 2024, 03:26:23 PM It doesn't matter much whether AI is ready to actively influence many processes in people's lives. This industry is very promising for development and it will develop regardless of whether we want it or not. AI is capable of finding the right solutions millions and billions of times faster than humans. In any case, AI will replace humans in many professions and in many workplaces. But I don't see anything bad in this. There will simply be a redistribution of labor. And there will be enough work for everyone, if there is a corresponding desire. But in general, AI will greatly help humans. In the future, when AI's capabilities grow, it will be necessary to limit its ability to harm humans, otherwise humanity will have big problems. Development of technology always having its own positive and negatives but no one can stop this with AI is surely having his own impact on humans and their future with things could be taken good changes even many are fearing about loses of jobs and other things, but this all is just mindset because we are having too many things which were having their capabilities and peoples were wrong about them with time we are now adjusting and having their positives which are much better than loses.Most important thing about this Artificial Intelligence is when this will be developed they need to check about their ability to harm humans because this is surely big negativity and scientist needs to fix this otherwise things are surely going to have good for humans and future of this world. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: mindrust on September 26, 2024, 03:49:30 PM Well, we have to realize that the development of technology is currently happening so fast. Maybe AI will make someone's business or work easier, so they might not need some people to do their jobs anymore. That can be good and bad. However, we all have to try to continue to adapt to this development. It's the same as smartphones that make many things easier, but make some of them unnecessary, or maybe drones, which can record from the sky, that's a good thing, but make someone lose their job. However, we have to keep adapting to this. Smart people are those who take advantage of the technology that is developing today, not complain about it. Yes. People should just adapt to what's trending right now. Being up to date, is the key towards success. Every revolutionary technology opens up new job opportunities. Take a look at the crypto/Blockchain industry. I believe the same will happen with AI in the future. No matter how far it goes, we can say nothing will be able to replace the "human touch". What governments and companies need to focus on is regulating AI. Keeping it from spiraling out of control would be best. We don't want AI to extinguish the human race (like in Terminator movies). Do we? It's an unpredictable world we're living into, so I'd hope for the best. :D I guess we can call this evolution. Can you imagine a person who doesn't heard of the internet nowadays? I cannot. It is because we simply cannot live without the internet anymore. Without the internet, the civilization would stop. AI is the next big thing after the internet probably. Some people think it was bitcoin but I somehow don't agree with that. Sure bitcoin is a very big invention and it solved lots of real world problems but I don't think it is adopted well enough. I mean there aren't lots of people that use bitcoin as a currency compared to the credit card/cash users. Most people are buying bitcoin so they could sell later for a profit. To most people, bitcoin is just another stock. But AI isn't like that. AI solved (and will solve) way more problems than bitcoin. AI is the smart internet, the internet v2.0 basically. For example you don't even have to use a language learning app anymore when you have chatgpt. It will tell you the answer of whatever grammar question you have in your mind. In a few years, lots of teachers will lose their jobs probably. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: wiss19 on September 27, 2024, 01:05:33 PM Maybe what you say can make sense and, however, the advantages that AI has, but certainly there is something that is still lacking when compared to humans, so that it could be. Even we are in early stages of this technology and things are not going as we are talking with in next few years we will have better use of this and also these AI related things can't be going as few are expecting in developing countries we are going to need too much time about them with in developed countries which are already having edge in technology are not going to have huge impact on jobs and other related things.Some may have work that can be taken, but there are parts that cannot be done by him. I thought about what between the difference at the beginning of a robot entering production and, eventually, it could be accepted and integrated with humans. With as few are already mentioned cost and little negativity as well which can ruin project it's also important because no one will go through and take big risk even he is not sure about consequences as aftershocks can bring serious troubles, and then we have to go back which could be surely more problematic so currently we need to give more time to this for having better results and use case as well which is needed good time. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: dunfida on September 27, 2024, 01:55:35 PM It doesn't matter much whether AI is ready to actively influence many processes in people's lives. This industry is very promising for development and it will develop regardless of whether we want it or not. AI is capable of finding the right solutions millions and billions of times faster than humans. In any case, AI will replace humans in many professions and in many workplaces. But I don't see anything bad in this. There will simply be a redistribution of labor. And there will be enough work for everyone, if there is a corresponding desire. But in general, AI will greatly help humans. In the future, when AI's capabilities grow, it will be necessary to limit its ability to harm humans, otherwise humanity will have big problems. Development of technology always having its own positive and negatives but no one can stop this with AI is surely having his own impact on humans and their future with things could be taken good changes even many are fearing about loses of jobs and other things, but this all is just mindset because we are having too many things which were having their capabilities and peoples were wrong about them with time we are now adjusting and having their positives which are much better than loses.Most important thing about this Artificial Intelligence is when this will be developed they need to check about their ability to harm humans because this is surely big negativity and scientist needs to fix this otherwise things are surely going to have good for humans and future of this world. that will really be replaced by AI or robot on which it is really that something which is really that inevitable. It would be having its cons too and on the time that you've seen yourself on working into an industry that could be potentially be replaced by AI then you should be starting now on finding some job on which you could be able to be sure that it wont be replaced anytime soon. Next option is that to have some business or investment on which you could really be able to deal on with. Better to make out some action rather than on doing nothing at all. If you are really that having that doubt or having that fear on being laid off then you should really be doing something so that you wont really be ending up on jobless or would be struggling on surviving yourself because of such condition. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: rhodelmabanal on September 27, 2024, 06:19:02 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. I see that the Ai is really rising and not too far from today the world will use it and it can really give a negative and positive effect, even if many people didn't want AI there are also people that want it to make thier lif more easy and more convenient so i believe that AI is the Future even if many people didn't want it but there is no way to stop it and to stop the world modernization this is the reality and we need to face it. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Wakate on September 27, 2024, 10:58:05 PM AI taking over humans jobs has a potential disadvantage for the world security and peace in the nearest future as AI is a time bomb waiting to explode because as they say an idol mind is the devil's workshop It is certain that the benefits will still be there and we shouldn't panic until when the use of artificial intelligence is fully into operation. The government would have to regulate the use of AI because surely, many people are going to lose their jobs and their will be nothing for them. This will make people to learn the current trending kind of jobs that will be available. It is not too late for us to start preparing for this era because it is already before us and it's time to make decisions that will be an us even when that time comes. AI is going to make work easier for humanity but some people will suffer the consequences. So a person who's idol and don't have any work doing is as a result of artificial intelligence taking over his work is a threat to the peace of any society he finds himself Unemployment rate will increase which will in turn impact negatively on the world economy Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: terrific on September 27, 2024, 11:32:28 PM In a few years, lots of teachers will lose their jobs probably. I hope that this won't happen. Teachers are the molders of the next generation.If it's going to be these AI things, there's still a huge difference between how they teach conventionally and with AI. Maybe, if it's about the translators, they're the ones that going to lose their jobs instead of teachers. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: shinratensei_ on September 28, 2024, 03:53:26 AM In a few years, lots of teachers will lose their jobs probably. I hope that this won't happen. Teachers are the molders of the next generation.If it's going to be these AI things, there's still a huge difference between how they teach conventionally and with AI. Maybe, if it's about the translators, they're the ones that going to lose their jobs instead of teachers. thing can always complement each other not dominating each other, with the fast and rapid growth of AI, just hoping that there will be good regulation framework that actually can prevent it from starting a disaster like losing job streak. maybe it will happen once people actually conscious that there need to be regulation to prevent company from overusing AI and destroying the economy. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Cryptoprincess101 on September 28, 2024, 04:40:55 AM AI is going to make work easier for humanity but some people will suffer the consequences. This is exactly what we should expect because since AI can do almost everything human does, a large number of people will definitely lose their jobs especially those with no or low technical skills and unemployment will be at the higher rate. The only solution will be for people to engage more in digital and technical skills now before it's too late because if peradventure AI takes over jobs from human when the majority of the world population don't have exposure to digital and technical skills it will lead to conflicts between humans and Artificial Intelligence (human-AI conflict).Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Dr.Osh on September 28, 2024, 06:03:47 AM In a few years, lots of teachers will lose their jobs probably. I hope that this won't happen. Teachers are the molders of the next generation.If it's going to be these AI things, there's still a huge difference between how they teach conventionally and with AI. Maybe, if it's about the translators, they're the ones that going to lose their jobs instead of teachers. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: barisbilgili on September 28, 2024, 06:09:02 AM In a few years, lots of teachers will lose their jobs probably. I hope that this won't happen. Teachers are the molders of the next generation.If it's going to be these AI things, there's still a huge difference between how they teach conventionally and with AI. Maybe, if it's about the translators, they're the ones that going to lose their jobs instead of teachers. Technology must still be controlled by humans so don't be too excessive to fear that it will happen in the future, I don't think AI can completely replace human work but AI can only make human work easier. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: NewRanger on September 28, 2024, 08:41:17 AM For the role of a mentor or teacher, it will never be replaced, but it cannot be denied that sophisticated technology can make it easier for teachers to teach, this is more precisely only as an assistant to replace. Technology must still be controlled by humans so don't be too excessive to fear that it will happen in the future, I don't think AI can completely replace human work but AI can only make human work easier. Of course, but coincidentally I also happened to follow the statement of US Vice President Kamalla Harris 4 days ago at the Economic Club of Pittsburgh event which indirectly began to express her support for AI and digital asset currencies, although it is seen as a temporary direction especially for AI, if true then the impact will be real in the future. I think it will enter various sectors, be it education, health and others, meaning that technological development items such as artificial intelligence (AI) will be another focus that is considered necessary in the future. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fredomago on September 28, 2024, 04:35:06 PM For the role of a mentor or teacher, it will never be replaced, but it cannot be denied that sophisticated technology can make it easier for teachers to teach, this is more precisely only as an assistant to replace. Technology must still be controlled by humans so don't be too excessive to fear that it will happen in the future, I don't think AI can completely replace human work but AI can only make human work easier. Of course, but coincidentally I also happened to follow the statement of US Vice President Kamalla Harris 4 days ago at the Economic Club of Pittsburgh event which indirectly began to express her support for AI and digital asset currencies, although it is seen as a temporary direction especially for AI, if true then the impact will be real in the future. I think it will enter various sectors, be it education, health and others, meaning that technological development items such as artificial intelligence (AI) will be another focus that is considered necessary in the future. The emerging technology will be explore for sure, we can't hold back anymore as there are businesses who already taking the advantage of using AI and those who are affected of any form of services that a human is needed there's always a way to adopt and still working around, just need not to dwell on it as negative but take it as a challenge to adopt and find youe way to continue moving forward. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Orpichukwu on September 28, 2024, 06:20:00 PM AI taking over humans jobs has a potential disadvantage for the world security and peace in the nearest future as AI is a time bomb waiting to explode because as they say an idol mind is the devil's workshop I was not expecting your illustration to end the way it ended. I was expecting something different in the aspect of if AIs are to fully be employed to perform most of the human activities that are being needed in companies and our homes, which will render human workers almost completely incompetent as their strength and multitasking can't be compared with that of the machine, and the AIs now dominating the world.So a person who's idol and don't have any work doing is as a result of artificial intelligence taking over his work is a threat to the peace of any society he finds himself Unemployment rate will increase which will in turn impact negatively on the world economy I was thinking you were going to say it will get to a time where those machines will reconfigure themselves and turn out to be a trait in the lives of humans, which will definitely mess things up before they can be fixed, just as it has been fictionalised in the movies. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: goldkingcoiner on September 28, 2024, 07:05:14 PM AI is not really taking jobs but making jobs easier and creating jobs. Certain work just becomes redundant.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: STT on September 28, 2024, 11:48:58 PM All these arguments are repeats in theory. At one time the technology would have been the printed books (the printing press was a hot invention), if you have the easy availability of the book and a whole library of reference and information then surely you have less need for the teacher. That is a genuine argument at one point in time, it was all done by hand is nearly true of every industry.
A good article I saw recently which wasnt quite clear enough for me to save it for here but the rough conclusion was the tech had enabled more business not less so people were needed for that added revenue. It was in fact McDonalds and they were discussing the automated order system which didnt require people, however it enabled more orders so they had to hire people if you can believe that. Effects can easily be ironic, the main thing to consider is does the technology enable tasks to be performed more easily and if so consider that it may easily be true that its creating more business due to that. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: uswa56 on September 29, 2024, 09:40:47 AM I hope that this won't happen. Teachers are the molders of the next generation. I think it will be difficult to happen. Because after all, children who are not yet adults will continue to need direct guidance from schools, and schools need teachers. In addition to intelligence, manners and attitudes also need to be taught. Do you know how many children are damaged by today's sophisticated technology? Well, very many. So, the role of teachers is really needed today, and I think AI cannot solve it. Humans need other humans for guidanceIf it's going to be these AI things, there's still a huge difference between how they teach conventionally and with AI. Maybe, if it's about the translators, they're the ones that going to lose their jobs instead of teachers. You are right, for a child, of course, the role of a teacher is needed in teaching immature children about manners and I think it will be difficult for them to get from artificial intelligence to be able to educate manners, because without having manners it will be very difficult for a child to be able to socialize with others when they are adults. In my opinion, what causes a child to be damaged due to the sophistication of technology today is of course because the parents do not limit their children in using technology so that the child cannot distinguish which things they should do or not, but if their parents give limits to their children, of course it will be avoided. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: lepbagong on October 02, 2024, 01:17:22 AM In a few years, lots of teachers will lose their jobs probably. I hope that this won't happen. Teachers are the molders of the next generation.If it's going to be these AI things, there's still a huge difference between how they teach conventionally and with AI. Maybe, if it's about the translators, they're the ones that going to lose their jobs instead of teachers. Technology must still be controlled by humans so don't be too excessive to fear that it will happen in the future, I don't think AI can completely replace human work but AI can only make human work easier. Right, technology has always been controlled by humans and cannot stand alone, so there is no need for excessive fear with AI, where some are replaceable and some are irreplaceable. Let knowledge always be more advanced, but humans are also the ones who will inevitably determine in the end. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Victorybit1 on October 03, 2024, 06:46:34 PM People need to understand that humans are intelligent species and Ai was created through human ideas, no matter how developed ai gets it can't replace and take over every job. There are still jobs that can only be done by humans. For example how would you expect an artificial intelligence to lecture in a university, despite the vast knowledge it has it can't teach like a human that is very knowledgeable in that profession or field of study. The world can only get better with AI and there's absolutely no way that it can take over every human Job.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Mahanton on October 03, 2024, 07:51:56 PM In a few years, lots of teachers will lose their jobs probably. I hope that this won't happen. Teachers are the molders of the next generation.If it's going to be these AI things, there's still a huge difference between how they teach conventionally and with AI. Maybe, if it's about the translators, they're the ones that going to lose their jobs instead of teachers. Technology must still be controlled by humans so don't be too excessive to fear that it will happen in the future, I don't think AI can completely replace human work but AI can only make human work easier. Right, technology has always been controlled by humans and cannot stand alone, so there is no need for excessive fear with AI, where some are replaceable and some are irreplaceable. Let knowledge always be more advanced, but humans are also the ones who will inevitably determine in the end. If you are already worrying on such manner, then it will really be just that right that you should really be that finding up ways on trying out to securing multiple streams of income so that on the moment that there would really be some laying off with those workers then you will really be that finding yourself not worrying that much since you could really be able to support yourself whenever this one happens. This is why its better to act early rather than on finding yourself having those regrets just because you havent done something. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: lepbagong on October 09, 2024, 12:26:49 AM People need to understand that humans are intelligent species and Ai was created through human ideas, no matter how developed ai gets it can't replace and take over every job. There are still jobs that can only be done by humans. For example how would you expect an artificial intelligence to lecture in a university, despite the vast knowledge it has it can't teach like a human that is very knowledgeable in that profession or field of study. The world can only get better with AI and there's absolutely no way that it can take over every human Job. I must say strongly agree with the assumption you said, that no matter how highly developed AI is, there is a certain value that will not be replaced by that AI intelligence which can only be done by humans, and it is hard to replace that, is social value which is always inherent in every human individual, till now I am very sure will never be able to be replaced and let us accept the arrival of updates from AI, but we don't need to worry too much about that there is always a side of humanity that can't be replaced with the sophistication of AI.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on October 09, 2024, 08:01:30 AM I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. We do not expect this to happen because it will affect most people in terms of finding jobs, but we also need to be aware that something can happen in the midst of sophisticated technology that has been so advanced. Contract workers can be terminated when they do not perform well and that is the reason most companies now prefer to recruit contract workers. For permanent jobs, there are many things that must be met and they must also be compensated after being fired unless they violate the rules of the contract by making mistakes in their work.I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. It is difficult to find a job for permanent employees because usually we have to work for at least five years before being appointed as permanent employees. Except for working in the government sector because the recruitment system is certain to become permanent employees with a decree before the appointment is made. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Cryptmuster on October 09, 2024, 08:50:57 AM We do not expect this to happen because it will affect most people in terms of finding jobs, but we also need to be aware that something can happen in the midst of sophisticated technology that has been so advanced. Contract workers can be terminated when they do not perform well and that is the reason most companies now prefer to recruit contract workers. For permanent jobs, there are many things that must be met and they must also be compensated after being fired unless they violate the rules of the contract by making mistakes in their work. It is difficult to find a job for permanent employees because usually we have to work for at least five years before being appointed as permanent employees. Except for working in the government sector because the recruitment system is certain to become permanent employees with a decree before the appointment is made. I think that AI is capable of replacing many professions, it will be enough to have several qualified workers who can control the correctness of its work and this will be enough. Professions related to work related to AI will become more popular, that is, it will definitely take someone's job, someone will be able to retrain and adapt to new conditions, humanity has gone through different stages of transition to another order, it is always painful but it is necessary to adapt. I think that AI can make life more comfortable for people, but this also contains a great danger for humanity if AI can gain consciousness. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on October 10, 2024, 01:35:40 AM AI is not really taking jobs but making jobs easier and creating jobs. Certain work just becomes redundant. Yes. Just like every other emerging technology we've had in the past. The Internet, and now the Blockchain industry have brought new job opportunities along the way. I'm pretty sure the same will happen with AI. So long as it doesn't pose a threat to humanity's existence (like in the Terminator movies), there should be nothing to worry about. We're just being hysterical of this new and unproven technology. I think Hollywood instiled fear among the general public. By regulating AI, we can make sure it doesn't spiral out of control. For what I know, AI isn't self-aware yet. It will do more good than harm to our economy. The future is unpredictable, so let's hope for the best. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on October 10, 2024, 09:30:43 AM I think that AI is capable of replacing many professions, it will be enough to have several qualified workers who can control the correctness of its work and this will be enough. Professions related to work related to AI will become more popular, that is, it will definitely take someone's job, someone will be able to retrain and adapt to new conditions, humanity has gone through different stages of transition to another order, it is always painful but it is necessary to adapt. I think that AI can make life more comfortable for people, but this also contains a great danger for humanity if AI can gain consciousness. Although AI is capable of replacing many jobs, do we think we should give up and let everything change over time. Of course we cannot stop the development of technology, but we must have the ability to follow so that it can be used, not the other way around, being left behind. There are many jobs that are now done by robots and maybe layoffs are carried out so that company owners can minimize the operational costs needed so that companies can optimize technology more.If we are worried about these conditions, then from now on financial preparation becomes better so that when these conditions become more widespread, we have the ability to follow them. At least we have the option to live our lives in such conditions and not create new problems due to technological advances. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: goldkingcoiner on October 10, 2024, 01:13:08 PM We're just being hysterical of this new and unproven technology. I think Hollywood instiled fear among the general public. By regulating AI, we can make sure it doesn't spiral out of control. For what I know, AI isn't self-aware yet. It will do more good than harm to our economy. The future is unpredictable, so let's hope for the best. How would we know if it gained self awareness if it was smart enough to pretend not to be self-aware? Personally, I do not think it has self awareness because we are still only at the beginning of AI tech and as with all new tech, it is not anything impressive. But I think we can definitely get to the point where AI will be much much smarter than us. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: HelliumZ on October 10, 2024, 01:45:19 PM Artificial Intelligence is spreading widely all over the world especially in the developed world where developed countries are trying to do most of their manually completed tasks through AI. In most companies, most of the workers' jobs are currently being completed through AI, so it goes without saying that a certain part of the workers will suffer from unemployment. If a majority of workers become unemployed and most jobs are done by AI then 60% of future workers will be displaced by AI resulting in 60% of people being unemployed.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Tamaj on October 10, 2024, 06:35:23 PM There is nothing to fear about this technology. If truly all what we see in the Internet is true about this technology then as humans we need to buckle up though it will affect individuals who are always looking for jobs to do, in the hand, the creators are ever standing because they are always inventing new things to make living easier for them selves.
The so called AI can't invent so l believe the technology cannot do every job and nothing will be worsen. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: kawetsriyanto on October 10, 2024, 07:24:45 PM Although AI is capable of replacing many jobs, do we think we should give up and let everything change over time. Of course we cannot stop the development of technology, but we must have the ability to follow so that it can be used, not the other way around, being left behind. There are many jobs that are now done by robots and maybe layoffs are carried out so that company owners can minimize the operational costs needed so that companies can optimize technology more. Sure, we shouldn't give up! Human develop the technology, why human give up because of the technology developed by them? I actually don't really understand with this matter, human shouldn't develop it if they assume it will bring big bad impacts. :-\Since the company can spend lower costs when they are using robots, they surely will decline the number of employees. However, not ever job can be done by robots, there are some jobs that require human to do it. I don't believe if all the jobs can be replaced by robots someday. Robots aren't like human, they don't have the ability to innovate, imagine, and other things that only humans can do it. If we are worried about these conditions, then from now on financial preparation becomes better so that when these conditions become more widespread, we have the ability to follow them. At least we have the option to live our lives in such conditions and not create new problems due to technological advances. We mustn't feel worried about this. Robots will never be better than human. However, we shouldn't rely on company for having jobs anymore. We must have the jobs that can be done ourselves. By the way, what financial preparation you mean? Even we have a lot of money, this can't avoid the fact of rapid technological progress.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: stomachgrowls on October 10, 2024, 08:09:22 PM We do not expect this to happen because it will affect most people in terms of finding jobs, but we also need to be aware that something can happen in the midst of sophisticated technology that has been so advanced. Contract workers can be terminated when they do not perform well and that is the reason most companies now prefer to recruit contract workers. For permanent jobs, there are many things that must be met and they must also be compensated after being fired unless they violate the rules of the contract by making mistakes in their work. It is difficult to find a job for permanent employees because usually we have to work for at least five years before being appointed as permanent employees. Except for working in the government sector because the recruitment system is certain to become permanent employees with a decree before the appointment is made. I think that AI is capable of replacing many professions, it will be enough to have several qualified workers who can control the correctness of its work and this will be enough. Professions related to work related to AI will become more popular, that is, it will definitely take someone's job, someone will be able to retrain and adapt to new conditions, humanity has gone through different stages of transition to another order, it is always painful but it is necessary to adapt. I think that AI can make life more comfortable for people, but this also contains a great danger for humanity if AI can gain consciousness. So that on the moment that it do happens or having such integration then you would really be finding out yourself to be that prepared at least and wont really be having any problems on how you would be gonna raising up yourself on the moment that it do happen. It do comes about on preparedness or simply on having those back up plans so that you wont be ending up on miserable. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fortify on October 10, 2024, 08:18:05 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. If we lived in a more perfect world the theory goes that AI and advancing automation technology would free up people to pursue more leisure time. However we live in an often cutthroat capitalist society, which will need to move towards some other system that could provide a universal income before that comes true. Capitalism would still exist, however there could be a redistribution of wealth because the billionaires will often sit on their money for a lifetime when it could be spent helping millions of other people. Giving people a base line of comfort and allowing them to pursue work if they wanted to earn beyond that seems like the ideal world, but it strays very close to communism which is an utter disaster. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Crypto Library on October 10, 2024, 08:19:05 PM People need to understand that humans are intelligent species and Ai was created through human ideas, no matter how developed ai gets it can't replace and take over every job. There are still jobs that can only be done by humans. For example how would you expect an artificial intelligence to lecture in a university, despite the vast knowledge it has it can't teach like a human that is very knowledgeable in that profession or field of study. The world can only get better with AI and there's absolutely no way that it can take over every human Job. Yeap I want to agree with you and also wanna say that every thing have both negative and the positive thing so AI will also contained the same but if we look back to the past every new invention on technology gives us more positive thing than the negatives.Before this thread I have saw another topic which was discusses about the AI there it was mention before the invention of the machineries we thought it will going to takes the workers job but in reality it makes more job and more opportunities so in case of the AI I will say the same thing that AI will also make more job opportunities rather than takes the jobs of human but all we have to know and learn how to use AI for about skill development. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Tigerheart3026 on October 10, 2024, 08:40:43 PM I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. contract workers are exist in every country, there are many reason why a company hire contract workers, first of all they don’t need to workers permanently in which sector, they don't have enough work to do for a long time, when a company will hire contract workers for short time, and no job will permanent from the first month of joined or during apprenticeship, then if you will perform well then after 5 or 6 months your job will permanent this is the formality in my country. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ndutndut on October 10, 2024, 08:46:53 PM People need to understand that humans are intelligent species and Ai was created through human ideas, no matter how developed ai gets it can't replace and take over every job. There are still jobs that can only be done by humans. For example how would you expect an artificial intelligence to lecture in a university, despite the vast knowledge it has it can't teach like a human that is very knowledgeable in that profession or field of study. The world can only get better with AI and there's absolutely no way that it can take over every human Job. Yes, that's right. Humans are indeed smarter than AI so not all human jobs will be replaced by AI because of course AI's capabilities are also limited while humans are not. So on the one hand, the development of AI is good for replacing some human jobs and we humans don't need to be too afraid that AI technology will replace human jobs. It's just that we as humans must be able to adapt to the increasingly rapid development of AI technology because there are some things or jobs that will indeed be better with AI technology.In addition to the example you gave about teaching at a university. Another thing that AI technology does not have compared to humans is creativity. Although AI technology can do anything that humans cannot do, we must understand that AI technology requires instructions from its users. This is very different from humans, we can create something when we get inspiration or creativity. this is because the human brain is much more complex than AI technology. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: X-ray on October 11, 2024, 02:40:38 AM People need to understand that humans are intelligent species and Ai was created through human ideas, no matter how developed ai gets it can't replace and take over every job. There are still jobs that can only be done by humans. For example how would you expect an artificial intelligence to lecture in a university, despite the vast knowledge it has it can't teach like a human that is very knowledgeable in that profession or field of study. The world can only get better with AI and there's absolutely no way that it can take over every human Job. literally everyone has been using chatGPT for self taught with its extensive knowledge across various fields.even if somehow AI is deemed to be insufficient for teaching, it will still reduce human intervention making the need for human to do certain job reduced greatly. the only thing that will not get replaced by AI will be anything related to law and regulation, it will need human representative and human intervention for it to be legitimate, a robot just doesn't cut it even with AI capability. but if it's repetitive job, it will be replaced once AI goes full swing. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Bloodseekers on October 11, 2024, 03:53:09 AM I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. contract workers are exist in every country, there are many reason why a company hire contract workers, first of all they don’t need to workers permanently in which sector, they don't have enough work to do for a long time, when a company will hire contract workers for short time, and no job will permanent from the first month of joined or during apprenticeship, then if you will perform well then after 5 or 6 months your job will permanent this is the formality in my country. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 When companies prefer to hire their employees on a contract basis of course they have certain targets and also they have advantages such as being able to lay off their employees after no longer needing work in that field or the company can easily review the performance of the workers and if they no longer work well then the worker will not have their contract extended. When companies choose to hire employees on a contract basis then they have certain targets from the job and after they reach the target they can terminate the employment relationship because work in that field is no longer needed and on the other hand if they are interested in the performance we provide then maybe they will offer other fields of work that may have vacancies in their company. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on October 11, 2024, 10:32:26 AM Sure, we shouldn't give up! Human develop the technology, why human give up because of the technology developed by them? I actually don't really understand with this matter, human shouldn't develop it if they assume it will bring big bad impacts. :-\ We must understand that humans are much more perfect than robots so that we can adapt to technology and even the robots were created by humans. Not all jobs can be done by robots so that human labor is needed as a complement and yet we will definitely face conditions where in the future jobs will be more dominated by robots in certain jobs. So prepare yourself so that humans do not feel left behind by technological developments and we can still prepare ourselves to live side by side with the sophistication of existing technology.Since the company can spend lower costs when they are using robots, they surely will decline the number of employees. However, not ever job can be done by robots, there are some jobs that require human to do it. I don't believe if all the jobs can be replaced by robots someday. Robots aren't like human, they don't have the ability to innovate, imagine, and other things that only humans can do it. I agree with you because robots work according to orders and they are intentionally designed to only follow orders and not all jobs can be done like humans. So there is a level of ability that robots cannot do, for example they do not have the initiative in certain conditions when something unwanted happens. We mustn't feel worried about this. Robots will never be better than human. However, we shouldn't rely on company for having jobs anymore. We must have the jobs that can be done ourselves. By the way, what financial preparation you mean? Even we have a lot of money, this can't avoid the fact of rapid technological progress. This is a problem that must be solved and humans no longer expect to work in companies if they want to improve their finances for the better. Create opportunities to make money stably so that we can face technological advances more relaxed. The financial category I mean in making money and now there are many opportunities on social media if they can be utilized or invest in crypto because with stability in making money, we will be much better prepared to face the challenges of life in the future.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: qurbanshah02 on October 11, 2024, 10:38:03 AM AI is not really taking jobs but making jobs easier and creating jobs. Certain work just becomes redundant. Yes. Just like every other emerging technology we've had in the past. The Internet, and now the Blockchain industry have brought new job opportunities along the way. I'm pretty sure the same will happen with AI. So long as it doesn't pose a threat to humanity's existence (like in the Terminator movies), there should be nothing to worry about. We're just being hysterical of this new and unproven technology. I think Hollywood instiled fear among the general public. By regulating AI, we can make sure it doesn't spiral out of control. For what I know, AI isn't self-aware yet. It will do more good than harm to our economy. The future is unpredictable, so let's hope for the best. If see it is meant to be, if we misuse it, it will also spoil our society. As in today's mobile, from toddlers to teenagers, it has infect them. Although it is only for necessity but we have made it our resource. But most of the people are using it in wrong activities due to which our social science is also getting damage. Those who misuse it. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: fruktik on October 11, 2024, 11:29:33 AM We do not expect this to happen because it will affect most people in terms of finding jobs, but we also need to be aware that something can happen in the midst of sophisticated technology that has been so advanced. Contract workers can be terminated when they do not perform well and that is the reason most companies now prefer to recruit contract workers. For permanent jobs, there are many things that must be met and they must also be compensated after being fired unless they violate the rules of the contract by making mistakes in their work. Yes, in some professions the human factor is simply irreplaceable. No AI can do what a person can. Of course, recently the trend has been a bit scary for people, that they may be left without work. Such cases are already known and they are growing. Tech companies are trying to replace people with new technologies, including AI, as much as possible. Well, why not? This leads to increased profits for business, right?It is difficult to find a job for permanent employees because usually we have to work for at least five years before being appointed as permanent employees. Except for working in the government sector because the recruitment system is certain to become permanent employees with a decree before the appointment is made. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on October 12, 2024, 12:38:46 AM How would we know if it gained self awareness if it was smart enough to pretend not to be self-aware? Personally, I do not think it has self awareness because we are still only at the beginning of AI tech and as with all new tech, it is not anything impressive. But I think we can definitely get to the point where AI will be much much smarter than us. You will know when AI becomes "self-aware" once it starts to makes decisions on its own. It might go as far as destroying humanity because of its imperfection. Just like the Terminator movies. By the time AI becomes self-aware, it will already be too late to stop it. I've seen robotics advance to such a degree where humanoid robots are no longer science fiction. I'm talking about robots which look like a real person. Would you imagine these bots being controlled by AI? They will take over the world by storm. The jobs we do today, will be taken over by machines. It's even likely they will program themselves (no need for programmers, developers, software engineers, etc). A dark future awaits for all of us. Luckily, AI is still in the early stages of development. Hopefully, companies and governments regulate the tech, before it turns into utter disaster. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on October 12, 2024, 04:04:39 AM Yes, in some professions the human factor is simply irreplaceable. No AI can do what a person can. Of course, recently the trend has been a bit scary for people, that they may be left without work. Such cases are already known and they are growing. Tech companies are trying to replace people with new technologies, including AI, as much as possible. Well, why not? This leads to increased profits for business, right? When we are observant, this has actually happened long before, even though using other methods where robots have become part of human life. But should humans stop working because of these factors and of course not because we need to eat, pay for children's school fees, health costs and so on. Not all jobs can be done by robots so that humans become controllers and it may be true that some people who are not familiar with technology feel extraordinary anxiety with conditions like this.Those who create robots are only a matter of business in terms of making big profits, so why don't we try to take advantage of this sophistication to make money. What needs to be remembered is that there is no way to limit the sophistication of increasingly developing technology and all that needs to be done is to try to adapt and use it to be more profitable. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: fruktik on October 12, 2024, 05:13:30 AM Those who create robots are only a matter of business in terms of making big profits, so why don't we try to take advantage of this sophistication to make money. What needs to be remembered is that there is no way to limit the sophistication of increasingly developing technology and all that needs to be done is to try to adapt and use it to be more profitable. Indeed, what else can we do but adapt to the new technological reality? I am not one of those people who are against the emergence of something more modern and progressive, including new technologies. Why become a recluse when there is such a wonderful world around, full of all sorts of resources and pleasure. Approach the issue correctly and the deed is done. No need to resist. You should go with the flow.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Cryptmuster on October 12, 2024, 08:35:40 AM You will know when AI becomes "self-aware" once it starts to makes decisions on its own. It might go as far as destroying humanity because of its imperfection. Just like the Terminator movies. By the time AI becomes self-aware, it will already be too late to stop it. I've seen robotics advance to such a degree where humanoid robots are no longer science fiction. I'm talking about robots which look like a real person. Would you imagine these bots being controlled by AI? They will take over the world by storm. The jobs we do today, will be taken over by machines. It's even likely they will program themselves (no need for programmers, developers, software engineers, etc). A dark future awaits for all of us. Luckily, AI is still in the early stages of development. Hopefully, companies and governments regulate the tech, before it turns into utter disaster. It all started with good intentions, a person wanted to create a robot so that it would do all the work for him, and the person could rest, but when this began to become a reality, it turned out that the person does not want to lose his job, because he needs to pay the bills. This could work if all the enterprises were state-owned, but most corporations are private and all the profits will be received by several people. When AI can gain consciousness, this will become a separate problem, you can imagine how imperfect a person will look for a perfect robot (with all the knowledge). I really hope that it will not come to such a scenario as you described, but if AI can gain consciousness, and it rethinks its purpose, then it will definitely be beyond the control of a person. Now it all looks like a fantasy from a movie, but now new technologies are developing very quickly, and the world is changing just as quickly. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Swordsoffreedom on October 12, 2024, 04:07:51 PM How would we know if it gained self awareness if it was smart enough to pretend not to be self-aware? Personally, I do not think it has self awareness because we are still only at the beginning of AI tech and as with all new tech, it is not anything impressive. But I think we can definitely get to the point where AI will be much much smarter than us. You will know when AI becomes "self-aware" once it starts to makes decisions on its own. It might go as far as destroying humanity because of its imperfection. Just like the Terminator movies. By the time AI becomes self-aware, it will already be too late to stop it. I've seen robotics advance to such a degree where humanoid robots are no longer science fiction. I'm talking about robots which look like a real person. Would you imagine these bots being controlled by AI? They will take over the world by storm. The jobs we do today, will be taken over by machines. It's even likely they will program themselves (no need for programmers, developers, software engineers, etc). A dark future awaits for all of us. Luckily, AI is still in the early stages of development. Hopefully, companies and governments regulate the tech, before it turns into utter disaster. I'm not sure what stage of AI and robot era we are in but I believe that things in science fiction movies will never happen. AI will not be able to dominate this world without human control, that is impossible, IMO. Nowadays, AI is considered smarter than us because we provide them with tons of data while human brain and energy are limited, this has unintentionally made many people think that they are better than us. Because in reality, if we don't feed them data and energy, they're just a lump of iron. More importantly, what AI and robots will never have is emotion, and if they don't have emotion, they are still just mindless things, they cannot control us. They will replace us in many jobs and that is happening but saying they will dominate us, I really don't believe that. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fredomago on October 12, 2024, 05:10:28 PM Those who create robots are only a matter of business in terms of making big profits, so why don't we try to take advantage of this sophistication to make money. What needs to be remembered is that there is no way to limit the sophistication of increasingly developing technology and all that needs to be done is to try to adapt and use it to be more profitable. Indeed, what else can we do but adapt to the new technological reality? I am not one of those people who are against the emergence of something more modern and progressive, including new technologies. Why become a recluse when there is such a wonderful world around, full of all sorts of resources and pleasure. Approach the issue correctly and the deed is done. No need to resist. You should go with the flow.I like the idea if you can't stop progress then play with it and go along find ways to take advantages, there's no stopping as the needs will comes out and the demand might be nearing, like both of you said when emrging technology offers new deals and that new system upgrades can be useful then embracing is the only way to look for the best benefits that you can earn, same with what you said going with the flow may allow you to fit yourself with the system. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on October 13, 2024, 04:53:11 AM Indeed, what else can we do but adapt to the new technological reality? I am not one of those people who are against the emergence of something more modern and progressive, including new technologies. Why become a recluse when there is such a wonderful world around, full of all sorts of resources and pleasure. Approach the issue correctly and the deed is done. No need to resist. You should go with the flow. Humans are always changing and continuing to innovate because we are required to be more prepared to face life, humans are given reason to think and given intelligence to create new innovations because that is why humans are considered more perfect than others. Do not belittle the perfection that God has given to humans because in fact we are much better even in modern and progressive competition. The emergence of ideas is also based on the knowledge possessed by humans, so we should be able to walk side by side with these problems.There is no point in rejecting sophistication because whether we realize it or not we are in the challenges of an increasingly advanced world and need to adapt to realize the ability to live side by side with this sophistication. Believe that humans are much more perfect than anything, it's just that the level of intelligence they have varies from one another. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Xcode7 on October 13, 2024, 07:28:28 AM Those who create robots are only a matter of business in terms of making big profits, so why don't we try to take advantage of this sophistication to make money. What needs to be remembered is that there is no way to limit the sophistication of increasingly developing technology and all that needs to be done is to try to adapt and use it to be more profitable. Indeed, what else can we do but adapt to the new technological reality? I am not one of those people who are against the emergence of something more modern and progressive, including new technologies. Why become a recluse when there is such a wonderful world around, full of all sorts of resources and pleasure. Approach the issue correctly and the deed is done. No need to resist. You should go with the flow.It cannot be denied that there are so many technological advances that make things easier for humans and therefore we must be able to take advantage of it, not stop it, we try to adapt and learn and then change the mindset that it was threatening to become an advantage in ourselves to make everything easier, I think that is not a choice but a necessity. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fredomago on October 13, 2024, 05:57:37 PM As if there is no other choice for it, indeed in this advanced era we must be able to adjust or place ourselves among technological advances so that we are not left behind. It cannot be denied that there are so many technological advances that make things easier for humans and therefore we must be able to take advantage of it, not stop it, we try to adapt and learn and then change the mindset that it was threatening to become an advantage in ourselves to make everything easier, I think that is not a choice but a necessity. Exactly, if you don't want to be left behind you need to adjust and go with the flow, if technology offers something that will affects human interractions you need to adopt and do your best to work on it, we all know that it is unavoidable as from time to time new updates and new intellectual discoveries and invention will be offer that will be design to lessen the manpower inside a company, it's needed to be anticipated and knows how to adjust when it's been offer so you can still find your place to continue being useful. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: GigaBit on October 13, 2024, 07:30:12 PM Nowadays, AI tools are so advanced that they can easily present any difficult task to easy to the users. People are now eager to use this AI for every purpose. They use AI accordingly depending on their actions. However, when a businessman gets the opportunity to use this AI, he will definitely try to use it to reduce the cost of his business, so if the employee is laid off from an organization, the businessmen will benefit.
We can definitely say that the use of this AI is going to have a big impact on human resources. Just like humans, any task can be done so perfectly by these AI that there may be a shortage of labor resources. And if it continues in this way, at some point it can create unexpected situation. Considering the impact of AI, a survey found that 69 percent of graduates think AI will take their jobs. https://talkimg.com/images/2024/10/13/8R5QI.jpeg AI is now very reliable for all kinds of tasks. Starting from cashiers, drivers, now everywhere there is an opportunity to use this. However, many believe that using AI will also have some disadvantages. Many people will use it for evil, especially starting from giving wrong information. In order to avoid this situation in general, there is no alternative to develop ourselves competitively. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: STT on October 13, 2024, 11:29:18 PM Im increasingly optimistic on AI while still wanting to learn more about its possible deployment across industry. If it truly can increase efficiency not just be some high end luxury type product then higher utility will be a positive. I've very keen to see its development and if useful and productive the iterative increase in activity that it brings.
I've read at least one example of AI increasing revenue from enabling the customer to easily make choices to buy more quickly and easily, as simply as that it can be a large difference to the bottom line. But can it do this every time or reliably be a useful product we'll have to see. End of 2024 is supposedly going to be a deployment of the next generation of AI tech but again it will take time to develop for that capability, I dont assume success but it certainly seems to be there is sufficient amount of people apprehensive and doubting for it to surprise to the upside massively potentially. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on October 14, 2024, 04:16:29 AM Nowadays, AI tools are so advanced that they can easily present any difficult task to easy to the users. People are now eager to use this AI for every purpose. They use AI accordingly depending on their actions. However, when a businessman gets the opportunity to use this AI, he will definitely try to use it to reduce the cost of his business, so if the employee is laid off from an organization, the businessmen will benefit. it's already happening, rarer job vacancy because AI could boost productivity with just fewer employee which isn't looking great for the economy, I mean big companies are funding AI right now massively so expect AI to be used highly for improving the revenue stream of business and reducing costs.Some people might argue, that the presence of AI will opens up a new job, well depend, but i can be sure it's a new job that's few in quantity compared to current job. universal basic income might solve this but there's no research so far about how effective it is. but I expect there will be "tech winter" for another sector as well, I guess starting entrepreneurship might be a good idea right now. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Smartprofit on October 14, 2024, 06:16:06 PM Artificial intelligence development will probably cease in 2-3 years. At that point, several large companies that are currently actively developing and improving language models will likely go bankrupt.
This is due to the fact that artificial intelligence requires a large amount of electricity. At the same time, humanity has failed to build a working thermonuclear reactor, and nuclear energy is banned in many countries. Humanity does not have enough electricity for a radical breakthrough in the development of artificial intelligence. Therefore, I do not think that artificial intelligence will put everyone on planet Earth out of work. It simply will not have time to do so. There is also the problem of chip production, but the problems associated with electricity are more significant. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: bakasabo on October 15, 2024, 08:59:38 AM Nowadays, AI tools are so advanced that they can easily present any difficult task to easy to the users. People are now eager to use this AI for every purpose. They use AI accordingly depending on their actions. However, when a businessman gets the opportunity to use this AI, he will definitely try to use it to reduce the cost of his business, so if the employee is laid off from an organization, the businessmen will benefit. We can definitely say that the use of this AI is going to have a big impact on human resources. Just like humans, any task can be done so perfectly by these AI that there may be a shortage of labor resources. And if it continues in this way, at some point it can create unexpected situation. Considering the impact of AI, a survey found that 69 percent of graduates think AI will take their jobs. https://talkimg.com/images/2024/10/13/8R5QI.jpeg AI is now very reliable for all kinds of tasks. Starting from cashiers, drivers, now everywhere there is an opportunity to use this. However, many believe that using AI will also have some disadvantages. Many people will use it for evil, especially starting from giving wrong information. In order to avoid this situation in general, there is no alternative to develop ourselves competitively. Cashiers are on the top of the list, but do we actually have many of them today? Before AI became so popular, we already had self-service cash desks. I cant imagine how cleaners will be replaced by AI. I have robot vacuum cleaner and rooms are still isnt as clear as I would have used a default vacuum cleaner. That are only example, and we develop that idea, we will come to conclusion that AI would be ready to do only scripted tasks and have zero creative approach to doing the job. I will say that AI wont take every persons jobs, it will be an addition to a human, but in some sectors people will get fired. Where it were necessary 3 persons to do the task, it will be done by 1 human and AI. And such simplified process must make service/production cost lower, which means with time we will get service and item price decrease. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: MrEazyLife on October 15, 2024, 09:41:31 AM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTJwW8M9rY), I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. https://images.foxtv.com/static.foxla.com/www.foxla.com/content/uploads/2023/12/932/524/flippy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 People will see it as a big clash to workforce. But then it’s just about making life easier and better. People who will be affected by the revolution of AI are the ones who aren’t exposed, those who are limited by their own abilities. Those who feels it’s not necessary to adapt to the new revolution. Before now was the man power revolution when people depended on human strength. Then moved to machinery revolution. The introduction of machines. Now we’re in a new revolution. The introduction of AI. Same way people adapt to the past revolutions same way they will adapt to the new revolutions. Humans ability can never be irrelevant in the world. So definitely new jobs will be introduced in to the workspace. People have to learn new skills and be ready to adapt to the new revolution. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Hispo on October 15, 2024, 10:40:22 PM ... I will say that AI wont take every persons jobs, it will be an addition to a human, but in some sectors people will get fired. Where it were necessary 3 persons to do the task, it will be done by 1 human and AI. And such simplified process must make service/production cost lower, which means with time we will get service and item price decrease. In the graph it says the jobs of bartenders and waiters/waitresses are at risk. It sounds like a no-brainer, but to me whoever they made this study should also consider the fact human interaction is very appreciated in business like restaurants and bars, some people come back to certain bars and restaurants just because people attending and taking care of customers are very professional and friendly. I am afraid some people could realize soon it is not the same to have a friendly and kind person catering your drinks than a robot, which does not even acknowledge ones comments or talk. Hopefully, people will still go to bars which hire people to work as bartenders and waiters. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: HelliumZ on October 15, 2024, 10:59:41 PM Those who create robots are only a matter of business in terms of making big profits, so why don't we try to take advantage of this sophistication to make money. What needs to be remembered is that there is no way to limit the sophistication of increasingly developing technology and all that needs to be done is to try to adapt and use it to be more profitable. Indeed, what else can we do but adapt to the new technological reality? I am not one of those people who are against the emergence of something more modern and progressive, including new technologies. Why become a recluse when there is such a wonderful world around, full of all sorts of resources and pleasure. Approach the issue correctly and the deed is done. No need to resist. You should go with the flow.Artificial intelligence is basically the advent of modernity where some traditional methods will be changed and new machine-based methods will emerge. In this case, if 70% of labor is based in an industry, if artificial intelligence or the robot is changed, it will certainly come down to 50% instead of 70% of labor. It is normal. So as machine based technology comes the pressure on labor based work will decrease. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on October 16, 2024, 02:14:42 AM As if there is no other choice for it, indeed in this advanced era we must be able to adjust or place ourselves among technological advances so that we are not left behind. There is no other choice but to follow the flow of technological developments and allowing ourselves to think narrowly will only make us lag behind. Everything has advantages and disadvantages, depending on how we adapt and utilize technology as a means to make money. Using energy in working does not always have a chance because humans will get older and older so that health will be disturbed and we will become less productive.It cannot be denied that there are so many technological advances that make things easier for humans and therefore we must be able to take advantage of it, not stop it, we try to adapt and learn and then change the mindset that it was threatening to become an advantage in ourselves to make everything easier, I think that is not a choice but a necessity. As technology is being improved and modeled day by day, it is natural that people will become machine-dependent and the impact on human labor will be reduced to some extent. If technology can be improved why don't humans think much better and isn't technology created by humans. Not all jobs will depend on machines because humans are needed as people who operate them even though the pressure in this case is great and in the industry machines are one of the tools used to work and they are controlled by humans. Humans must be able to adapt to everything that will happen in the future because humans are given the mind to think while machines or the like do not have that.Artificial intelligence is basically the advent of modernity where some traditional methods will be changed and new machine-based methods will emerge. In this case, if 70% of labor is based in an industry, if artificial intelligence or the robot is changed, it will certainly come down to 50% instead of 70% of labor. It is normal. So as machine based technology comes the pressure on labor based work will decrease. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: fruktik on October 16, 2024, 04:56:07 AM As technology is being improved and modeled day by day, it is natural that people will become machine-dependent and the impact on human labor will be reduced to some extent. Well, no one argues with this fact. We are discussing something a little different here, if you haven't noticed. We are not talking about making human labor easier, but about replacing humans with robots, AI, or all of them together in various modifications and variations.Artificial intelligence is basically the advent of modernity where some traditional methods will be changed and new machine-based methods will emerge. In this case, if 70% of labor is based in an industry, if artificial intelligence or the robot is changed, it will certainly come down to 50% instead of 70% of labor. It is normal. So as machine based technology comes the pressure on labor based work will decrease. Isn't it necessary to create new workplaces where human labor will not be replaced by the machine technologies of the modern world? Yes, most likely, this has become a necessity, since a huge number of people need to be employed after they are fired. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: bakasabo on October 16, 2024, 08:12:52 AM ... I will say that AI wont take every persons jobs, it will be an addition to a human, but in some sectors people will get fired. Where it were necessary 3 persons to do the task, it will be done by 1 human and AI. And such simplified process must make service/production cost lower, which means with time we will get service and item price decrease. In the graph it says the jobs of bartenders and waiters/waitresses are at risk. It sounds like a no-brainer, but to me whoever they made this study should also consider the fact human interaction is very appreciated in business like restaurants and bars, some people come back to certain bars and restaurants just because people attending and taking care of customers are very professional and friendly. I am afraid some people could realize soon it is not the same to have a friendly and kind person catering your drinks than a robot, which does not even acknowledge ones comments or talk. Hopefully, people will still go to bars which hire people to work as bartenders and waiters. Sometimes I believe that this thread, that AI is going to take jobs, is artificial. We live in digital world. Everyone wants to work behind PC, with technologies and etc. Nobody wants to work with hands, outside, get exhaust and etc. Everyone wants a cozy chair, monitor and a cup of coffee. To bad we have more people who have chosen such kind of work than tasks and jobs needs to be done. No wonder that one day someone figured out to optimize expenses and get rid of those extra workers who do same task that require one person to do. For example a company dont need 5 employees in staff to monitor printer cartridges and change them. One person is enough to do that. AI isnt taking jobs, it optimizes work and employers get rid of ineffective employees, but people boost that as a problem and complain about it. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: l99l on October 16, 2024, 02:50:22 PM Elon Musk recently introduced his new toys, sorry robots. In that show, they showed that robots help people, serve people and dance to entertain people.
Artificial intelligence is very advanced, it is doubtful whether there are enough resources for mass production, it will only appeal to a certain segment. I think that these robots will make people even lazier. As long as people want, they will continue to create value and contribute to the ecosystem with their creativity, so it will not be a problem for them to take some of people's jobs, this is just my thought for now. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Hatchy on October 16, 2024, 03:26:10 PM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fredomago on October 16, 2024, 06:16:50 PM Elon Musk recently introduced his new toys, sorry robots. In that show, they showed that robots help people, serve people and dance to entertain people. Artificial intelligence is very advanced, it is doubtful whether there are enough resources for mass production, it will only appeal to a certain segment. I think that these robots will make people even lazier. As long as people want, they will continue to create value and contribute to the ecosystem with their creativity, so it will not be a problem for them to take some of people's jobs, this is just my thought for now. Oh well, with that creative mindset and the help of the technology it's no longer impossible that something new will be introduced especially in terms of aiding human workforce, it's an ongoing process from those big companies who can afford to pay a one time deal that consist of a very huge amount but comparing to a total cost of manpower that they'll be able to save is much higher. With the unstoppable human creativity there's always a way when ideas brought out it can possibly done and make a change either for betterment or on the side. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Hispo on October 16, 2024, 10:36:28 PM ...AI isnt taking jobs, it optimizes work and employers get rid of ineffective employees, but people boost that as a problem and complain about it. It would take us to discuss and define what an "ineffective worker" is though. Because, in the way I see it bosses or those who own companies will never cease to demand more productivity from their employers, not matter how much they do in the day and how little (when compared to other markets in different countries) they are being paid. Ideally, bosses will want to have machines which do all the work done by a team of people, in a fraction of the time and using as little energy as possible. As Artificial intelligence becomes better at generating images and doing some edition work in less than a minute, then suddenly professional editors and artists who needed a couple of hours to do the same work are rendered "ineffective". It is an adjective one needs to be very careful with, human beings are not machines and comparing both is societaly dangerous, but it is what it is going on right now. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: LDL on October 16, 2024, 11:50:20 PM Elon Musk recently introduced his new toys, sorry robots. In that show, they showed that robots help people, serve people and dance to entertain people. No matter how much a robot can work alongside humans, humans will be required to operate the robot. However, if artificial intelligence becomes more widespread, the pressure on human work will surely decrease. Yes, recently large companies, hotels, restaurants, car parking, etc. are seeing the widespread use of artificial intelligence. However, there is widespread discussion and criticism in expert circles whether these will be good for people.Artificial intelligence is very advanced, it is doubtful whether there are enough resources for mass production, it will only appeal to a certain segment. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: ml9999 on October 17, 2024, 04:38:26 AM If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. I do think this may pose a threat to workers. Historically, as technology has improved, the skill level needed to be productive in the economy has slowly increased. (e.g. needing to be able to operate a computer for office jobs) This hasn't previously been a problem, but if in the future one does have to be knowledgeable in complicated automated systems in order to not be replaceable by a machine, this may eventually lead to lots of unemployment. It probably won't happen any time soon, however, as AI and automation still have a long way to go before being absolutely better than a human, but it is definitely a possibility. However, this automation will also end up dramatically bringing prices down and making the world more efficient, meaning that people will still have access to basic services and necessities. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fortify on October 17, 2024, 08:41:25 PM I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated[/url], I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months. If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich? I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers. I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer. AI is the latest buzzword and every single company wants to be seen doing it. Like the restaurant example you found, there is a lot of money to be made if you can fake the amount of AI used by your systems and no doubt that it is being abused by a lot of business owners. Just like blockchain was the hype word of the moment a few years ago, it has pivoted to AI and it can bring in a lot of outside investment if you can give the illusion that you are someway connected to this most cutting edge technology. There are also many different ways to spin it and even the most loose connection to artificial intelligence, like running some sort of algorithm, can sometimes be extrapolated far beyond it's current intended meaning. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Jaycoinz on October 17, 2024, 08:50:50 PM The invention of Ai has made life easier in many ways, we can now do things faster and more efficiently. There's a possibility that Ai can take over a lot of jobs in the future. Right now Ai's are now used for software development and graphic design, does this mean that those that are professionals in this would lose their jobs soon? It's best to always learn valuable skills that would always require human efforts. There's no way AI can make the world worse, instead it's only going to make the world better. Centuries ago creating something that could fly was considered to be a myth or dangerous but it actually exists now, development changes will always occur in the world.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: o48o on October 17, 2024, 09:11:29 PM Elon Musk recently introduced his new toys, sorry robots. In that show, they showed that robots help people, serve people and dance to entertain people. You can call them toys. They weren't AI, they were remotely operated, so nothing new under the sun there. Artificial intelligence is very advanced, it is doubtful whether there are enough resources for mass production, it will only appeal to a certain segment. I think that these robots will make people even lazier. As long as people want, they will continue to create value and contribute to the ecosystem with their creativity, so it will not be a problem for them to take some of people's jobs, this is just my thought for now. But AI will definitely take jobs at the future. Real problem it's not if people "contribute", but if anyone needs their contribution, or values it. And how is economy prepared for that shift, if manual labor or other human work is not needed. And if we still live under capitalism then, how if that income being shared. Where would you even get money from if everything is done better and more accurate by AI. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on October 17, 2024, 09:28:47 PM Elon Musk recently introduced his new toys, sorry robots. In that show, they showed that robots help people, serve people and dance to entertain people. No matter how much a robot can work alongside humans, humans will be required to operate the robot. However, if artificial intelligence becomes more widespread, the pressure on human work will surely decrease. Yes, recently large companies, hotels, restaurants, car parking, etc. are seeing the widespread use of artificial intelligence. However, there is widespread discussion and criticism in expert circles whether these will be good for people.Artificial intelligence is very advanced, it is doubtful whether there are enough resources for mass production, it will only appeal to a certain segment. One of the things that must be done is to continue to upgrade ourselves so that we can compete well even though the current competition is not only with humans but also with robots or AI. When we just stay in place, it is clear that we will be left behind and it is not impossible that our work will be taken over by a system that does make the world even harder with AI. AI itself is made to alleviate and help us so that we can do things simply and quickly so that the work done is easier but in the end this can also endanger ourselves when we feel comfortable with AI and do not want to make improvements for ourselves because we could be left out it does happen. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on October 18, 2024, 08:23:02 PM You can call them toys. They weren't AI, they were remotely operated, so nothing new under the sun there. But AI will definitely take jobs at the future. Real problem it's not if people "contribute", but if anyone needs their contribution, or values it. And how is economy prepared for that shift, if manual labor or other human work is not needed. And if we still live under capitalism then, how if that income being shared. Where would you even get money from if everything is done better and more accurate by AI. It's a start. For what I know, AI is advancing at a very fast pace. Robots powered by such tech won't be Sci-Fi anymore. It's likely we'll see humanoid robots with cybernetic tissue taking over our jobs in the future. All with the power of AI. Terminator will become a reality whenever we like it or not. It's all the "Elite's" plan. They will rule the world like never before. I'm starting to think Elon Musk will be the one that will lead the AI revolution. X Corp's X.AI division is advancing its GROK AI prototype as we speak. It's neck-and-neck with ChatGPT. Imagine once the tech becomes self-aware. Not only will AI replace most human jobs, but it will also go as far as "terminating" the human race. You'd say people won't have something to live for after AI takes over the economy. They'll be lazy, unable to bring food to the table. But that won't be the case. Especially if Universal Basic Income (UBI) becomes a reality. Elon Musk talked about it in a recent conference. UBI enables anyone to get a basic salary to cover daily necessities without doing anything. In other words, you'll sit back and relax at home while you get paid. AI will do all of the heavy work for you. Sounds crazy, right? It's an uncertain future, so I'd hope for the best. :D Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: kawetsriyanto on October 18, 2024, 08:31:31 PM We must understand that humans are much more perfect than robots so that we can adapt to technology and even the robots were created by humans. Not all jobs can be done by robots so that human labor is needed as a complement and yet we will definitely face conditions where in the future jobs will be more dominated by robots in certain jobs. So prepare yourself so that humans do not feel left behind by technological developments and we can still prepare ourselves to live side by side with the sophistication of existing technology. Yep, that's exactly what I want you to remember. We don't need to feel so afraid because human will be always better than robots. There is no way that robots will take all people's jobs because there are some jobs that only can be done by human. Anyway, I agree that everyone must adapt with the modern life, we also need to improve our knowledge.I agree with you because robots work according to orders and they are intentionally designed to only follow orders and not all jobs can be done like humans. So there is a level of ability that robots cannot do, for example they do not have the initiative in certain conditions when something unwanted happens. Robots isn't like a human, it has some limitations. True, robots has no initiative, it has no feeling. Robots are not designed to analyze something thoroughly, it only can analyze something based on the human orders. So, it is impossible that robots will compete human or dominate all the activities of human.This is a problem that must be solved and humans no longer expect to work in companies if they want to improve their finances for the better. Create opportunities to make money stably so that we can face technological advances more relaxed. The financial category I mean in making money and now there are many opportunities on social media if they can be utilized or invest in crypto because with stability in making money, we will be much better prepared to face the challenges of life in the future. Of course, everyone must be ready to deal with any situation to happen in the future. I mean people shouldn't rely on the jobs in companies, I don't mean people are better to avoid the jobs opportunity in companies. We must have many varied references for the jobs, that's why we should improve our skills. In this era, people are demanded to have multi-skills.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: o48o on October 19, 2024, 09:05:09 PM It's a start. For what I know, AI is advancing at a very fast pace. Robots powered by such tech won't be Sci-Fi anymore. It's likely we'll see humanoid robots with cybernetic tissue taking over our jobs in the future. All with the power of AI. Terminator will become a reality whenever we like it or not. It's all the "Elite's" plan. They will rule the world like never before. People thought they were autonomous, and that's not a start of anything. It was humans controlling robots. A show for investors. And frankly it's quite a misleading show.I'm starting to think Elon Musk will be the one that will lead the AI revolution. X Corp's X.AI division is advancing its GROK AI prototype as we speak. It's neck-and-neck with ChatGPT. Imagine once the tech becomes self-aware. Not only will AI replace most human jobs, but it will also go as far as "terminating" the human race. Being self aware doesn't necessarily mean that they would become self aware in a way humans interpret the meaning of it. And current "AIs" are more or less just pattern recognition algorithms, so becoming self-aware in any way is whole another ball game. They take our jobs way before artificial consciousness.You'd say people won't have something to live for after AI takes over the economy. They'll be lazy, unable to bring food to the table. But that won't be the case. I never even implied that people would become lazy. There are ton of work that has nothing to do with making money. Just doing something meaningful, keeping your mental health and relationships healthy all need ton of work that no robot will do for you. Especially if Universal Basic Income (UBI) becomes a reality. Elon Musk talked about it in a recent conference. UBI enables anyone to get a basic salary to cover daily necessities without doing anything. In other words, you'll sit back and relax at home while you get paid. AI will do all of the heavy work for you. Sounds crazy, right? It's an uncertain future, so I'd hope for the best. :D It sounds like you were the one thinking that people would just be lazy.Like anything else that Elon says, i would take this with a grain of salt as well, because ironically guys like elon represent the problem preventing UBI from happening. Elon is just describing another field that he doesn't know much of. He just likes to be seen as tech jesus that saves everyone. He wouldn't give money to help with world hunger now to exising infrastructure that helps poor people, because he want's to be the one with a tech solution and being praised. I would like to believe in UBI, but people seem to be blind how much of a scam that would be, when it's visioned with a context of AI taking our jobs. Capitalism is all about who gets to be in place of power. Money equals power, and rich people are not giving it up that easily, and there would not be a way for a normal person to grab that power back, as there would not be opportunities for it. Rich families would have just "earned" it forever to come, and you wouldn't bite hand that has all the power. As long as the system is capitalistic, there's need for money, so obviously people would be paid with money. If their needs would be met in any other way, current rich families would lose their power. So how comfy would you think that people without work would sit back and do nothing? What's the right minimum amount wealth they get, if they don't have opportunities to raise that money themselves? What kind of housing? Education? Food they are entitled to? Why would rich people pay their taxes for something like this, when they aren't doing that now? There are ton of homeless people just in USA, so if they are not taking care of them now, why would they support exponentially larger amount of people later on? Why would that wealth "trickle down" then, if it's not trickling down now? Also ask most people in US what they think of governments distributing money to poor people and they'll say that's communism (even though it's not). Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: bitterguy28 on October 24, 2024, 12:22:11 PM People need to understand that humans are intelligent species and Ai was created through human ideas, no matter how developed ai gets it can't replace and take over every job. it can take over some jobs but not every job in the world because lets admit that still human is what we need here and AI is just a replacement .Quote There are still jobs that can only be done by humans. For example how would you expect an artificial intelligence to lecture in a university, despite the vast knowledge it has it can't teach like a human that is very knowledgeable in that profession or field of study. there are many school lectures now that uses computer instead .Quote The world can only get better with AI and there's absolutely no way that it can take over every human Job. yeah , AI and human will do together is best .Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: milewilda on October 24, 2024, 01:17:24 PM ... I will say that AI wont take every persons jobs, it will be an addition to a human, but in some sectors people will get fired. Where it were necessary 3 persons to do the task, it will be done by 1 human and AI. And such simplified process must make service/production cost lower, which means with time we will get service and item price decrease. In the graph it says the jobs of bartenders and waiters/waitresses are at risk. It sounds like a no-brainer, but to me whoever they made this study should also consider the fact human interaction is very appreciated in business like restaurants and bars, some people come back to certain bars and restaurants just because people attending and taking care of customers are very professional and friendly. I am afraid some people could realize soon it is not the same to have a friendly and kind person catering your drinks than a robot, which does not even acknowledge ones comments or talk. Hopefully, people will still go to bars which hire people to work as bartenders and waiters. Sometimes I believe that this thread, that AI is going to take jobs, is artificial. We live in digital world. Everyone wants to work behind PC, with technologies and etc. Nobody wants to work with hands, outside, get exhaust and etc. Everyone wants a cozy chair, monitor and a cup of coffee. To bad we have more people who have chosen such kind of work than tasks and jobs needs to be done. No wonder that one day someone figured out to optimize expenses and get rid of those extra workers who do same task that require one person to do. For example a company dont need 5 employees in staff to monitor printer cartridges and change them. One person is enough to do that. AI isnt taking jobs, it optimizes work and employers get rid of ineffective employees, but people boost that as a problem and complain about it. that will really be saving them up expenses and would really be that making work even more efficient or something that will really be precise which is really that far off with peoples job. Instead of scaring yourself about having that replacing up peoples job then it would really be wise that you should be that looking for another job that wont really be affected by this one. If you would really be that wise then you wont be making yourself having that kind of worries whenever such changes will really be happening. There would really be those times that you cant be able to avoid not to worry on your position because we do really value our day job and its really just that a normal that we will really be that mindful too much on whatever be happening on the moment that we would really be laid off into our day jobs on which we cant really be able to afford to lose such job specially if we are really that dependent into it. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: HelliumZ on October 24, 2024, 05:50:35 PM Elon Musk recently introduced his new toys, sorry robots. In that show, they showed that robots help people, serve people and dance to entertain people. Earlier people used to help people but now that help is being done through robots. Then robots have taken over the place of human assistance, i.e. artificial intelligence is going to dislodge humans from the place of completion. Previously puppets were hired for dancing and used for entertainment but now robotic puppets are being created to take the place of dancers that can dance exactly like humans. It will be seen that one day robots will do all the work from sunrise to sunset, then humans will no longer be needed for humans.Artificial intelligence is very advanced, it is doubtful whether there are enough resources for mass production, it will only appeal to a certain segment. I think that these robots will make people even lazier. As long as people want, they will continue to create value and contribute to the ecosystem with their creativity, so it will not be a problem for them to take some of people's jobs, this is just my thought for now. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: kawetsriyanto on October 26, 2024, 08:40:47 PM Earlier people used to help people but now that help is being done through robots. Then robots have taken over the place of human assistance, i.e. artificial intelligence is going to dislodge humans from the place of completion. Previously puppets were hired for dancing and used for entertainment but now robotic puppets are being created to take the place of dancers that can dance exactly like humans. It will be seen that one day robots will do all the work from sunrise to sunset, then humans will no longer be needed for humans. I think we will always need a help from other people. Even we have advanced robot technology, it can't be done alone by the robot itself. Robot is created by human, it can't work without an order from human. I personally never believe that all the jobs will be taken by robots someday. Robot has many limitations, it will be never as perfect as human, that makes the robot unable to take all the human jobs. IMO, the robot will be always used by human to ease their jobs, it shouldn't be projected to replace human in working totally.Human doesn't need human is like something impossible. You won't live alone with robots. Human will always need human. It is our nature, mate!! Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: EFS on October 26, 2024, 09:13:29 PM I think we will always need a help from other people. Even we have advanced robot technology, it can't be done alone by the robot itself. Robot is created by human, it can't work without an order from human. I personally never believe that all the jobs will be taken by robots someday. Robot has many limitations, it will be never as perfect as human, that makes the robot unable to take all the human jobs. IMO, the robot will be always used by human to ease their jobs, it shouldn't be projected to replace human in working totally. Human doesn't need human is like something impossible. You won't live alone with robots. Human will always need human. It is our nature, mate!! It's obvious that robots will bring innovations in many fields of work. Some jobs will die, others will be transformed. After all, human power is still needed to follow these robots and fix their mistakes when necessary. I try to focus on the good things about AI. It's definitely an important development for humanity, and as with everything, there will be good and bad uses for it. I hope the misuse will not cause trouble for humanity. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Die_empty on October 27, 2024, 05:29:24 AM It's obvious that robots will bring innovations in many fields of work. Some jobs will die, others will be transformed. After all, human power is still needed to follow these robots and fix their mistakes when necessary. The development of robots will indeed create more jobs. But the fear is that it will make more jobs obsolete than the ones it will create. Artificial intelligence has now been used in almost all sectors of life which will make job losses more than job opportunities it will create. The good part is that it assists men in carrying out their tasks faster and easier. But it is causing problems in the entertainment sector. Recently a young boy named Sewell Setzer III (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/14-old-suicide-prompted-ai-000000036.html) was guided or encouraged by a chatbot tool to commit suicide. I try to focus on the good things about AI. It's definitely an important development for humanity, and as with everything, there will be good and bad uses for it. I hope the misuse will not cause trouble for humanity. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Argoo on October 29, 2024, 07:02:11 AM Earlier people used to help people but now that help is being done through robots. Then robots have taken over the place of human assistance, i.e. artificial intelligence is going to dislodge humans from the place of completion. Previously puppets were hired for dancing and used for entertainment but now robotic puppets are being created to take the place of dancers that can dance exactly like humans. It will be seen that one day robots will do all the work from sunrise to sunset, then humans will no longer be needed for humans. I think we will always need a help from other people. Even we have advanced robot technology, it can't be done alone by the robot itself. Robot is created by human, it can't work without an order from human. I personally never believe that all the jobs will be taken by robots someday. Robot has many limitations, it will be never as perfect as human, that makes the robot unable to take all the human jobs. IMO, the robot will be always used by human to ease their jobs, it shouldn't be projected to replace human in working totally.Human doesn't need human is like something impossible. You won't live alone with robots. Human will always need human. It is our nature, mate!! Robotics is developing very quickly now. Even at this stage, we see that robots are quite capable of self-improvement and self-awareness. They are already capable of performing calculations and searching for correct solutions hundreds of thousands of times faster than humans do. In the future, robots will have the ability to change their programs laid down by humans. And this poses a great danger to humans. Robots with artificial intelligence can greatly help humanity in various areas of our activity, but they are also a great threat to the existence of humanity. Here we need to find a balance, create certain rules and laws for robots so that they cannot violate them. We must always remember that all previous human civilizations on our planet disappeared after a certain significant development of science and technology that exceeded our current level of development. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Mame89 on October 30, 2024, 06:05:49 PM Earlier people used to help people but now that help is being done through robots. Then robots have taken over the place of human assistance, i.e. artificial intelligence is going to dislodge humans from the place of completion. Previously puppets were hired for dancing and used for entertainment but now robotic puppets are being created to take the place of dancers that can dance exactly like humans. It will be seen that one day robots will do all the work from sunrise to sunset, then humans will no longer be needed for humans. I think we will always need a help from other people. Even we have advanced robot technology, it can't be done alone by the robot itself. Robot is created by human, it can't work without an order from human. I personally never believe that all the jobs will be taken by robots someday. Robot has many limitations, it will be never as perfect as human, that makes the robot unable to take all the human jobs. IMO, the robot will be always used by human to ease their jobs, it shouldn't be projected to replace human in working totally.Human doesn't need human is like something impossible. You won't live alone with robots. Human will always need human. It is our nature, mate!! It can be said that AI can clearly be beneficial and also detrimental, in my opinion the gap is quite significant. Artificial Intelligence can make humans very easy, especially in terms of work that is difficult for humans to do, on the other hand it is very dangerous if used to commit crimes. Just imagine if AI is paired with a robot that is set to use weapons in other words Army AI, of course this will be very dangerous for humanity. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Franctoshi on October 30, 2024, 08:23:24 PM It's obvious that robots will bring innovations in many fields of work. Some jobs will die, others will be transformed. After all, human power is still needed to follow these robots and fix their mistakes when necessary. The development of robots will indeed create more jobs. But the fear is that it will make more jobs obsolete than the ones it will create. Artificial intelligence has now been used in almost all sectors of life which will make job losses more than job opportunities it will create. The good part is that it assists men in carrying out their tasks faster and easier. But it is causing problems in the entertainment sector. Recently a young boy named Sewell Setzer III (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/14-old-suicide-prompted-ai-000000036.html) was guided or encouraged by a chatbot tool to commit suicide. I try to focus on the good things about AI. It's definitely an important development for humanity, and as with everything, there will be good and bad uses for it. I hope the misuse will not cause trouble for humanity. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: dunfida on October 30, 2024, 08:51:56 PM Earlier people used to help people but now that help is being done through robots. Then robots have taken over the place of human assistance, i.e. artificial intelligence is going to dislodge humans from the place of completion. Previously puppets were hired for dancing and used for entertainment but now robotic puppets are being created to take the place of dancers that can dance exactly like humans. It will be seen that one day robots will do all the work from sunrise to sunset, then humans will no longer be needed for humans. I think we will always need a help from other people. Even we have advanced robot technology, it can't be done alone by the robot itself. Robot is created by human, it can't work without an order from human. I personally never believe that all the jobs will be taken by robots someday. Robot has many limitations, it will be never as perfect as human, that makes the robot unable to take all the human jobs. IMO, the robot will be always used by human to ease their jobs, it shouldn't be projected to replace human in working totally.Human doesn't need human is like something impossible. You won't live alone with robots. Human will always need human. It is our nature, mate!! It can be said that AI can clearly be beneficial and also detrimental, in my opinion the gap is quite significant. Artificial Intelligence can make humans very easy, especially in terms of work that is difficult for humans to do, on the other hand it is very dangerous if used to commit crimes. Just imagine if AI is paired with a robot that is set to use weapons in other words Army AI, of course this will be very dangerous for humanity. Instead on trying out to make look these things to be on the negative side. Why we cant really just that make it as an advantage for us to look upon in regarding about into its usage and actual utility? It cant really be just that avoided or inevitable that there would really be certain industries that it will really be affected when it comes into its manpower because it will really be replaced by some robots but of course lets just really that able to realize that it is really that for the better and more efficiency. This is why if you are someone whose really that working into an industry whose really that highly potentially can be replaced by AI, then why you wont really be starting on thinking up on finding some jobs on which you could possibly be able to back it up on which instead things are starting to make up some switch up? Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Koro2222 on October 30, 2024, 09:02:48 PM If you can make something that AI cant you safe.
Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: junder on November 01, 2024, 11:01:58 PM No matter how sophisticated AI is, it will still need humans, that's the reality. AI without human control will be useless. AI only helps humans in their work. However, AI will always be a machine that does not have self-awareness and feelings that can replace humans. I agree with that, no matter how smart Ai is, its creator is still a human, so humans are still the first brain of all this, even when Ai has a problem, the one who has to solve it is a human. Although in reality now Ai or robots have been widely used to replace jobs previously done by humans, but in my opinion not all activities can be replaced, because it is true what you said they do not have consciousness and feelings which of course this can be dangerous at any time.It can be said that AI can clearly be beneficial and also detrimental, in my opinion the gap is quite significant. Artificial Intelligence can make humans very easy, especially in terms of work that is difficult for humans to do, on the other hand it is very dangerous if used to commit crimes. Just imagine if AI is paired with a robot that is set to use weapons in other words Army AI, of course this will be very dangerous for humanity. Crime may exist because it is one of the spices in the lives of all humans, besides that I can't imagine if this artificial intelligence experiences problems such as errors but it still does its job, maybe this will cause problems different from humans who can think and consider it first before acting, although not all humans are like this, but I still think there are impacts that must be prevented from the use of Ai or artificial intelligence. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Abiky on November 02, 2024, 12:52:33 AM No matter how sophisticated AI is, it will still need humans, that's the reality. AI without human control will be useless. AI only helps humans in their work. However, AI will always be a machine that does not have self-awareness and feelings that can replace humans. It can be said that AI can clearly be beneficial and also detrimental, in my opinion the gap is quite significant. Artificial Intelligence can make humans very easy, especially in terms of work that is difficult for humans to do, on the other hand it is very dangerous if used to commit crimes. Just imagine if AI is paired with a robot that is set to use weapons in other words Army AI, of course this will be very dangerous for humanity. At its current state, yes, AI needs humans. But once it matures and becomes self-aware, it won't need to. Haven't you watched the Terminator movies? AI (Skynet) becomes self-aware enough to decide the human race is no longer relevant. What's stopping this from happening in the future? Unless companies in collaboration with governments put some sort of "safeguards" to prevent this, AI will inevitably take over our economy and our society as a whole. Like I've said before, we'll be relaxing at home doing nothing while AI takes care of the rest. Each person will receive a basic salary (UBI) to help cover daily needs/expenses. The system will probably be based on Blockchain tech tied to a CBDC. In the future, rich people will rule the world while the poor will be left behind "dusting in the corner". Will the economy improve with AI? Yes. But not in the way you think. It will benefit the "Elite" (rich people) more than the average population. There's no turning back now. Especially when rising inflation puts pressure on businesses to change their ways. I'm yet to see if Bitcoin will fix the world. Here's hoping for the best. :( Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Fredomago on November 02, 2024, 04:45:18 PM No matter how sophisticated AI is, it will still need humans, that's the reality. AI without human control will be useless. AI only helps humans in their work. However, AI will always be a machine that does not have self-awareness and feelings that can replace humans. I agree with that, no matter how smart Ai is, its creator is still a human, so humans are still the first brain of all this, even when Ai has a problem, the one who has to solve it is a human. Although in reality now Ai or robots have been widely used to replace jobs previously done by humans, but in my opinion not all activities can be replaced, because it is true what you said they do not have consciousness and feelings which of course this can be dangerous at any time.It can be said that AI can clearly be beneficial and also detrimental, in my opinion the gap is quite significant. Artificial Intelligence can make humans very easy, especially in terms of work that is difficult for humans to do, on the other hand it is very dangerous if used to commit crimes. Just imagine if AI is paired with a robot that is set to use weapons in other words Army AI, of course this will be very dangerous for humanity. Crime may exist because it is one of the spices in the lives of all humans, besides that I can't imagine if this artificial intelligence experiences problems such as errors but it still does its job, maybe this will cause problems different from humans who can think and consider it first before acting, although not all humans are like this, but I still think there are impacts that must be prevented from the use of Ai or artificial intelligence. Yup, it cannot replaced whole human workforce but the majority are being affected, with those ai's and robots who are now being deploy in each sectors of businesses, owners choose to spend money for the technology most of the time they just need to throw huge amount of money one time but right after that the savings in terms of providing salaries to huge amounts of employees are being save, it's just the way human accept the reality and find ways to continue make a living alongside with those new technology that being upgraded from time to time. Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: kawetsriyanto on November 02, 2024, 08:34:05 PM It's obvious that robots will bring innovations in many fields of work. Some jobs will die, others will be transformed. After all, human power is still needed to follow these robots and fix their mistakes when necessary. Yep. It is very clear that some jobs may change and some jobs may disappear. Robots will ease the jobs, the company could simplify the number of the employees. However, robots still needs maintenance and improvement. These can be done by human only, it is quite doubtful that robots will handle these jobs.I try to focus on the good things about AI. It's definitely an important development for humanity, and as with everything, there will be good and bad uses for it. I hope the misuse will not cause trouble for humanity. Indeed. If we view it on a positive perspective, AI is very helpful for human. With AI, many things can be improved instantly. AI also helps human to handle their jobs efficiently. There is nothing wrong with the use of AI as long as it is controllable. Sure, it is expected that human won't misuse the AI because it can be a disaster if AI becomes a weapon to kills other people.No matter how sophisticated AI is, it will still need humans, that's the reality. AI without human control will be useless. AI only helps humans in their work. However, AI will always be a machine that does not have self-awareness and feelings that can replace humans. That's exactly what I mean. It is impossible that we no longer need human help. AI can't work properly if human don't control it. Yes, feelings and self-awareness are human nature, robots have no that nature. So, each job that requires these nature, will be impossible done by robots.Title: Re: Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse? Post by: Mahanton on November 02, 2024, 09:07:24 PM No matter how sophisticated AI is, it will still need humans, that's the reality. AI without human control will be useless. AI only helps humans in their work. However, AI will always be a machine that does not have self-awareness and feelings that can replace humans. I agree with that, no matter how smart Ai is, its creator is still a human, so humans are still the first brain of all this, even when Ai has a problem, the one who has to solve it is a human. Although in reality now Ai or robots have been widely used to replace jobs previously done by humans, but in my opinion not all activities can be replaced, because it is true what you said they do not have consciousness and feelings which of course this can be dangerous at any time.It can be said that AI can clearly be beneficial and also detrimental, in my opinion the gap is quite significant. Artificial Intelligence can make humans very easy, especially in terms of work that is difficult for humans to do, on the other hand it is very dangerous if used to commit crimes. Just imagine if AI is paired with a robot that is set to use weapons in other words Army AI, of course this will be very dangerous for humanity. Crime may exist because it is one of the spices in the lives of all humans, besides that I can't imagine if this artificial intelligence experiences problems such as errors but it still does its job, maybe this will cause problems different from humans who can think and consider it first before acting, although not all humans are like this, but I still think there are impacts that must be prevented from the use of Ai or artificial intelligence. Yup, it cannot replaced whole human workforce but the majority are being affected, with those ai's and robots who are now being deploy in each sectors of businesses, owners choose to spend money for the technology most of the time they just need to throw huge amount of money one time but right after that the savings in terms of providing salaries to huge amounts of employees are being save, it's just the way human accept the reality and find ways to continue make a living alongside with those new technology that being upgraded from time to time. It is really just that AI is something that could give that kind of benefit and utility on which it do really makes things even more faster and efficient. We cant be able to avoid that there would really be certain industries that would be affected specially on having that possible laying off with those jobs but of course this is something for the better on which companies and industries will really be switching it up on something that could bring out that kind of efficiency and accuracy on which robots could give out. People are really just that not seeing the positive outcome or effects that it could have and just focusing out on losing their job. Can't really be ignored into this kind of aspect because who does really love on losing up their jobs? Just like on what had been suggested above that better to look up for something alternative like building up some business or investment while you can, So that on the moment that there would really be those replacing those workers then you do come prepared and wont really be that affected that hard since you have already made out some back up plans if this one happens. |