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Looks like an interesting project, do you have bounty campaign going on that accepts newbie accounts?

This is certainly interesting and original idea,i will read more in the whitepaper and then i will have some questions for sure!

Very original idea,havent seen something like that before.You decided about location of first of those islands?

Very ambitious idea. I hope you succeed. Where will the first island be near to?

This is very nice project and idea is great.Climate change does change the way we live and it will change even more in future so this could indeed be the best way to go.I think it is a bit early to ask where first island will be as this project needs to sort most important part first and that is funding which I hope will run smoothly so we can see this come to life.

Yes,its quite ambitious project,first one where hard cap actually looks too small to achieve all what is planned.

But im sure teams knows best how much they actually need.

Very nice project with great vision, wish you all the best. I see you have an enormous number of people in the team, where are you based?

Interesting idea that will require lots of money and years to get there, if you will be able to follow your road map I will be impressed. You surely have lots of experts in your team and saw that Macron and some notable people seem to be on your side I wish you to succeed!

What is the minimum amount needed to join this sale?

Seems like you have a huge team.Where exactly is your headquarters and how many people are there?

a very unique project, making a place to live floating on the sea, but I think only the rich people who can live here because it is pegged a cost that does not seem cheap.

When exactly your Pre ICO and ICO start and finish?I couldnt find that information anywhere.

There will be a bounty program. Coming soon (TM).


We are working on putting the first pilot project in French Polynesia in a protected lagoon in paradise.

Seems like you have a huge team.Where exactly is your headquarters and how many people are there?

The five founders are all over the world. The US, UK, Russia and French Polynesia. Most of the employees are in the US and there are volunteers and advisors all over the world as well.

I don't work for Blue Frontiers but I support the project so much that I retired and moved to Tahiti to offer any support I could give and to have a front seat of history being made.  ;D



Current minimum for the pre-sale is the equivalent of 40 ETH in ethers or BTC. Or 100 ZEN. During the public sale the minimum will likely be 1 ETH.


Blue Frontiers is currently incorporated in Singapore but that could change. Much of the work is being done in the US, mainly the Silicon Valley area.



Last numbers I saw were about $200k per person on average to have a home on the seastead. Of course that's the average so some places may be single person bungalows that cost a lot or apartment units that cost less. The hope is to develop mass production techniques that can put out cheaper and cheaper units giving the average person the opportunity to have an oceanfront home much cheaper than on the land.


The Pre ICO started about a week or two ago. The full ICO will likely be in early June as they work on running security checks on the smart contract with many eyes including a third party team who is well known for securing ICOs (I'm not sure of the name right now).

Could you please check and tell us who is the third party working on smart contract?

Wow, it's cool to see that there are still people willing to chase the dream :D If I had that kind of option like you did I would move also and put all in on this kind of project that's willing to boldly go where no one has gone before :D

I notice that there is a huge amount of tokens in reserve from 45-72% of tokens.How will that be distributed, are you keeping those for the team?

Sustainable floating islands is an interesting idea but incorporating smart contract governing frameworks seems currently too ahead of its time.
Is there a roadmap for when construction on the first projects is estimated to be completed?

Yeah, that is really big amount to keep in reserve...are these tokens going to be locked for certain period after ICO ends to avoid any suspicions about manipulations.

I see that you have so much strategic partnerships lined up and even some from crypto world. Do you plan to have all services on island to be offered by crypto world?That would be really cool to go full crypto :D

You must conduct a bounty campaign to promote. 8)

The reserve is there for spending at certain milestones. If the ICO raises the maximum amount that should be enough for all of the engineering and prototyping to get at least the first seastead in the water. The reserves will be sold down the road to build more seasteads.

The thinking behind this is that so many of these ICOs raise their full amount of money in the first round then you see the founders out driving lambos and going on kick ass vacations and never actually getting around to doing what they promised (why would they? they have the money). With holding a reserve, Blue Frontiers has the incentive to do well so that they can sell the tokens down the road to continue the project.

Everyone in the project wants this to happen, it's not about the money but the vision.

This has been my role as a volunteer for Blue Frontiers to push for as much blockchain based solutions for anything and everything happening on the seastead.

I see the seastead as an incubator for all sorts of new blockchain companies. If you're coming to the seastead, be ready to experience the latest technology in the crypto space. Even if at times it is a bit confusing and in the early stages of "ease of use"  ;)

Varyon can become the hub that all of these companies need to go through to get their solutions paid for since everyone will already be using it. Even though in the private businesses they can accept any currency.

There is now a bounty program  ;D

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3742962.0

any bounty for newbie ?

Do you plan any airdrops?

You should be able to join social part of campaign like twitter,facebook,medium posts.Its a nice way to get some easy tokens.

I agree with this approach,so many ICOs only goal is to reach hard cap,like they cant get funds sometimes later,during progress.And if project goes good,team tokens will worth even more so they can sell some tokens to fund project further.

Thats true,incredibly ambitious project,but i wish them all the best.

You mentioned earlier that minimum amount during sale will be 1 ETH.Any chance for that to be lower,so more people can join,and therefore spread the awareness about this project?

Whats the story behind token name Varyon,as i see project is called Blue Frontiers?

I'm not certain that it's 1 ETH, I don't think they've made that decision yet but that's the number I keep hearing. They can only go so low because they have to do KYC/AML for every person and that costs money per person.

The company name is Blue Frontiers. We wanted a unique name for the token so that people would be able to recognize it and not confuse it with something else.

The name Varyon is a play on the word variation...representing the wide variation in governments we're hoping pop up on the many seasteads.

Ahh, just checked and no luck for newbies after all.Would be nice if more projects would allow newbies to participate in bounty's, but I understand the reasoning behind that decision.

That is awesome :D Now I like this project even more.Finally that we see some projects are trying to create complete crypto space.If this happens we might even see some smaller cities try this.I would even move to some small mountain village if the vision would be full crypto :D

Thanks for reassuring me, I see you understand at what was I aiming initially :D So that means that later there will be more sale events if I understood you properly.Would that be private sales or public ones in later stages if you will need to sell more?

Since nobody shared the introduction video with basic information about Varyon, I thought it would be good to have it here on forum also, for lazy people who don't have a habit of researching a bit more. Share it on other platforms also :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=LwCu4IuSmvc

Do we have to go through KYC to participate?

I believe the plan is to sell OTC or on an exchange as needed once they reach those milestones. It will be gradual, trying to not disrupt the market.

The money they make in the ICO will be split between ETH, BTC, EUR and USD to pay out salaries and contracts for construction. Hopefully BTC and EUR values go up so much that they never have to touch the reserves  ;)

Do you have any vesting period for team tokens?And if yes,for how long team tokens are locked?

Whats the percentage of the tokens that are available for the public sale?

I think KYC will be needed,and in my opinion its a good thing and soon it will be mandatory for every ICO it even  for utility tokens.

Public sale is 4-28% depending upon hitting the soft cap or the hard cap.


4,000 ETH Soft cap
22,000 ETH Hard cap


Presale is 7-8% depending upon the hard or soft cap.

There are discussions on length of time and which of the team will be vested.

Thanks for the video,  lazy people are all around us:)

maybe I missed it , can you post it again the ico dates, pre ico etc.

Is there any bounty campaign going on at the moment?And if there is,do i have to do kyc ?

Its presale at the moment and public sale will start in June.

Nice, will we be able to know the public addresses of those wallets and know what team is doing with funds?

YEah, there is a bounty campaign, it was posted a already.

Here is the link m8

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3742962.0

If somebody needs some help with buying VAR, team has published a great article on Medium, basicly a tutorial on how to buy VAR :D

https://medium.com/@bluefrontiers/how-to-participate-in-the-varyon-ico-43d4857b5a8f

Hope it helps some of you guys, it was useful for me :D

Yes, at least for the crypto based funds. Fiat is so much in old times that you can't verify accounts publicly.

Great and futuristic project!

I see that you have team from all over the world,but where exactly is your company registered?

Do you maybe know exact dates for those sale phases?

Are there  any plans for  telegram airdrops soon?That seems like a popular idea lately to spread awareness about the project.

The company is currently registered in Singapore.

Token sale should start on May 15th.

Awesome, you guys are so on top of things :D You are thinking about everything and love the transparency and approach to community, really in line with project philosophy overall :D Regarding Fiat - didn't even consider that option for fiat hehehe

Welcome and thanks for spreading the word about Blue Frontiers and Varyon m8

I have visited your official website, and I think the concept of your project is great. Would you please give me the information about the schedule of the token sale period? Is KYC verification required?

True,thats a good way to attract large amount of people and to get some attention.I guess they will announce it if they decide to go that way.

Actually there is no set date yet for the public sale. They are still working on shoring up security for the token, putting as many industry eyes on it (including Dr. Nagy of the Ethereum Institute) to make sure we will have a secure token.

Does that mean company maybe plan to move somewhere with better crypto laws?I know many projects opt for Estonia.

When can we expect for sale dates to be set?

The date will be in June but they don't know when the date will be set yet.

This seems like a ambitious and expensive project.In case you dont reach hard cap wil you have enough to go on with the project?

If the hard cap is hit they will have funding from the ICO to get through all of the engineering, prototypes and likely construction of the first platform. They will have the reserves from there to pay for further building. This gives Blue Frontiers more control over the experiment of the pilot project which makes it easier overall for Blue Frontiers moving forward after that.

If only the soft cap is hit they will be able to fund most of the engineering and prototyping but money will be tight and they may need to burn through some reserves and instead of owning the pilot platforms they will likely have to do pre-sales to other companies/groups/rich individuals. That will make it a bit more difficult but still do-able. But with the soft cap there will be more reserves.

Sort of like the difference of having a car company where you build one car at a time and sell it to get money for the next car, or having a manufacturing plant where you can mass produce a bunch.

Anywhere in between is just varying degrees between the two.

Ok, great,thank you for the detailed answer.Hopefully you will reach hard cap so you wont have any issues along the way.

What will happen with unsold tokens,in case you dont reach hard cap?Maybe those could be used later on for another round of sale?

Are citizens of any countries excluded from sale,or everyone can join?

I think US and China can't participate because of laws.

Oh sorry, my bad for misinformation, I was sure I saw the date on White paper, but it is better to have everything sorted then to rush things.

Tokens that are not sold will stay in reserved and sold later to invest further if project will need more funds from what I was able to understand.Those wallets with those funds will be public and community will be informed what is happening and we will be able to verify everything so its's pretty well organized. :D

What is the current bonus for those that wants to join sale now?

Sale already started?I didnt know that,was it announced somewhere?

Yes,presale is live,here is the link https://www.blue-frontiers.com/en/varyon

I don't think that there is a bonus available, but it is possible that if you contact them and invest larger sum that team might offer you some kind of a bonus.

Blue Frontiers is such a good idea.Moving everything to crypto governed islands and if I understand correctly those islands will have ability to be moved and change locations? Like a good version of waterworld!This is so big project I sincerely hope you guys will be able o do this , no matter if takes 5-10 years it would be worth a wait :D

There is a bonus in presale after all.It is from 5%-15% it seems.

I was wondering what is the actual price per token in USD?

I think VAR is pegged to ETH,1 ETH=14750 VAR.

How are you going about providing clean potable water to the residents? Normally, potable water is provided via water mains on land, and are sterilized with chemicals such as chlorine . However, the people behind the project seem adamant that climate change is a problem, and that you could relocate relatively easy. Then how are you going to transport your potable water?

You could go the desalination route just like cruise ships do, although this has proven costly. Eventually, you could have the need for a lot of potable water which might not be easily processed through desalination. Desalination has also been linked with climate change which I'm sure the people behind your project don't want to actively encourage.

I'm guessing that you will be collecting rainwater for a source of potable rain water with the involvement of American Rainwater Catchment Systems Association. Although, I would have my concerns about using rainfall for potable water. For example, it's very difficult to determine the amount of rainfall that might happen, and whether it will be enough to supply your ongoing residents. You could have dry days/weeks etc which could be a massive issue. What are your backup plans if rain fall doesn't alone provide enough to your residents?
What sort of capacity will your water reserve be holding?

I've skimmed your whitepaper, and haven't found you going into detail about water systems, water consumptions and contingency plans. I consider water to one of the most important aspects, and one which is often overlooked. I'm also interested in the system you will be using to determine how much maintenance, and how long it would take for the initial investment to prove while.

All great questions and we have a full team that has been focusing on nothing but water/waste for the past year. Since I am in the blockchain group I will not try to cover all of the insanely complicated things those guys discuss in their group because I just peeked into one of their meetings once and sat through three hours of talk about poop and the stages of how it goes from stinky to useful soil.

I have heard a few things in the general discussion about rainfall catchment and storage being built into the design and a very heated discussion about not allowing any higher salinity to return to the sea than we take out (minimal impact vs zero impact vs positive impact, etc.). In the lagoon we hope to leave it better than when we arrive.

Fortunately the teams are putting together an easy to understand infographic about more of the design elements (the whitepaper is more about the currency and general idea of the company than anything specific about the design). This will also include a full report by each of the design groups that they submitted at the end of 2017 with their recommendations.

And as with all of these systems we will initially be very close to land so we will certainly have backups in place as we evolve and grow.

Can we buy using BTC ,or you accept ETH only?

I think they accept both BTC and ETH during presale.

I wanted to go to the site but for some reason I get an error. I hope this is temporary. but the project is interesting for me. and I most likely will take part in it

If varyon.io does not work, it is just pointing to:
https://www.blue-frontiers.com/varyon

Both sites work for me without any issues.Possible that it was some temporary issue...

Important question and I would say good enough answer for the time.I understand how big this project is and we can't expect from our dear Elwar to know every tiny bit for each sector and possible problems of this project, but doing pretty good info to keep us informed as best as possible. Though it is good that these kind of questions are raised already as it is important to know how team thinks and tackles possible problems.Also lot of people here that show interest in this project are eco-friendly most likely so naturally environmental questions will be present.

What I am also interested in is how is the island actually relocatable? What will move and island?

Thank you for promoting the project.Every exposure is welcome and everyone interested in this awesome project :D

Do youh ave any vesting period for team tokens,and if yes,for how long?

Ok,thank you for the answer.What is the price of 1 token?

That is a good question, would be good to have some vesting period for team tokens to ensure no suspicious actions.

Yes,locking team tokens is a must nowdays,i would say for atleast 1 year.

Yeah, I appreciated the response. But, will be looking forward to more in depth information about it. Obviously, they will be close to land, but getting the rights for a permanent source of water can be a problem. Most water mains would need to be underground, and that would cost quite a bit, and would likely be unpractical for such a project. If they are getting most of their water from rainfall there's also issues with pressure & flow which when a lot of people are drawing off the system could be troublesome, as this is the case for gravity fed mains too. 

Find out the top 20 blockchain solutions we're looking at for the seasteads here:

http://bitcoingirlthailand.com/2018/05/18/bitcoin-girl-thailand-at-techinasia-2018-in-singapore-discusses-blockchain-and-seasteading/

What you plan to do with unsold tokens?Maybe burn them?

I like the bonus.Its good enough to make people invest early,but not too big to cause dump after listing

Do you already have all permits needed for something like this?

Yes its a common mistake that many ICOs do,they offeer huge initial bonus,and then those who want to invest later get screwed.Glad to see Blue Frontiers team is taking different approach.

Water mains wouldn't make much sense, because the team mentioned that island should be movable and relocatable.Then we get to pressure & flow issues with collecting rainfall.Desalinization could be possible solution, but all of this will be a big mountain to climb also because of a teams policy to make zero negative impact on environment.Another interesting issue that comes to my mind would be garbage disposal ? How will that be tackled as it seems that quite a lot of people will live on the island.

Tokens won't be burned, they will be kept in reserve and resold later when necessary for further development of the project.Of course everything will be transparent and public from public wallets.

Nah, this project has zero competition! It's a completely unique project with very original idea that will be quite hard to accomplish so I don't see else trying to copy this.

Yo Chad :D Great to see you in person :D

I like the approach you have to the project, even though there are no solutions for some problems at the moment, like moving the island and relocating it, you believe that technology will bring that in future and make it possible.It show how this project is serious, visionary and long term investment in better future.Taking a safe approach and doing things step by step to give yourself time to discover problems and tackle them while still in early phase of development.

You said that you will be looking to partner up with other companies to get blockchain solutions for some of the problems and sectors you mentioned in the video.Can you like give us some candidates for certain sector that you have in mind?

They already have an agreement with French Polinesia and permit to place an island in one of the safe lagoons, but other permits will come later when further developments happen as this project will be done in a lot of phases.

Thanks :)

We've had talks with Bravenewcoin which has an identity token in the works, we're looking at some p2p electricity companies out of Australia to see how their pilot projects are going. There are many approaches out there to blockchain voting, we talked to one developer but most of it will not come into play until we get the platforms in the water which will be 2021. In the blockchain space that is like some far off future.

One thing we will likely start out with first which I didn't bring up in the video was environmental monitoring on the blockchain. We will set up monitoring devices as soon as possible and try to automate things so that all of that information gets recorded on a public blockchain for anyone to see. That is something we can put in the water before the seastead is even built so we can see the process and do "before and after" types of studies. We have partnered with UC Berkeley for their environmental monitoring program.

Can everyone join the sale,or citizens of some countries cant join?

People from United States and China wont be able to join.

How exactly will your project benefit from blockchain technology?

Please see this video on the top 20 ideas for integrating blockchain and seasteading:

https://youtu.be/eSbG4LH-QOE?t=319

Whats the issue with those two countries?I often see them excluded from the ICO sale.

Floating islands to integrate the blockchain technology. How it works?
it's seem is very hard to build and need a lot of money to do that.

An interesting project and very good to follow, this project comes with the concept of building a floating island with a unique framework, this project will certainly get much attention from investors, because the floating island is a place that is desired by the travelers and many people. hope this team works hard to succeed what is expected.

I must say even though this project is extra long term in terms of crpyto as you said, it is my favorite one because it would change the game completely and bring us closer to the dream :D Since it will take quite a lot of time in terms of crypto to get to a point where it makes sense to include other blockchain services would it be wiser to just wait and see a bit, because by 2021. there could be much better solutions for a lot of those sectors then they are now?

The laws of China and US simply don't allow people from those countries to participate in ICO's.

When does the sale actually start?Is there a date somewhere?

From all of the talk I have heard it sounds like they will start the public sale once we reach the soft cap of 4000 ETH (don't quote me on this, it is more reading between the lines than anyone actually saying it).

From my e-mail, we have a new announcement of a lowered threshold for the presales:



I would suggest getting in quickly, this past week has been big as far as publicity and they're just getting started.

CNBC (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/18/floating-island-is-planned-with-government-cryptocurrency-and-houses.html?bx_sender_conversion_id=193212&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=mail&utm_campaign=this_message_is_for_the_courageous_ones_only)

Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.my/floating-city-plans-seasteading-institute-peter-thiel-blue-frontiers-2017-12/?bx_sender_conversion_id=193212&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=mail&utm_campaign=this_message_is_for_the_courageous_ones_only)

Bitcoin.com (https://news.bitcoin.com/crypto-floating-island-project-closer-to-realization/?bx_sender_conversion_id=193212&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=mail&utm_campaign=this_message_is_for_the_courageous_ones_only)

News BTC (https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/05/19/pacific-island-establish-government-cryptocurrency-300-households/?bx_sender_conversion_id=193212&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=mail&utm_campaign=this_message_is_for_the_courageous_ones_only)


They are also allowing accredited US investors now, so if you are an accredited US investor (net worth of $1 million or income of $200k the past 2 years) you are free to buy VAR.

True,i dont think iv seen  anything similar to this,Its a huge advantage

Thank you,it was very informative.

New article in the bitcoinist


This Cryptocurrency is funding an autonomous sea dwelling community
 (http://bitcoinist.com/this-cryptocurrency-is-funding-an-autonomous-sea-dwelling-community/)

With a great video explaining the project quite well.

https://youtu.be/tPIKR8UDDgo

Great to see that this unique project is getting attention!

What will be the price of one of those settlements?

Elwar I know that you claim that you aren't hired by Blue Frontiers but surely they have a Representative that could ask all the questions and engage with it's community a little more?

If you are telling you truth you are literally doing someones job for them and not receiving any benefit at all.

I have been volunteering for Blue Frontiers since last May. They have over 70 volunteers that have been spending the past year supporting the project since they opened up the volunteer program. We literally turn people away who want to volunteer for the group to not overwhelm the group with too many new people each week who would need to be caught up. At least until we start getting things going.

I have been involved in seasteading for the past 10 years and this is the first viable project to come along. I am doing everything I can to make it happen, even moving to French Polynesia to lend my support as needed.

For me, the benefit will be a potential future free of the government idiocy that we all have to live with every day. I put in many hours for various libertarian candidates, this is no different.

Answering a few questions is no big deal, I did the same thing for Bitcoin in the early days.

There is a team of people on various social media sites answering questions. I told them I would handle bitcointalk since I'm on here all the time anyway. In theory they would give me some varyon for my work if I claimed my hours but what's more important for me is the success of this project.

If there is more engaging with the community necessary I can certainly ask others on the team to chime in. They hang out mostly on our telegram channel if you want quicker answers to any questions.

https://t.me/bluefrontierscommunity

There has been an evolving number over the past year due to different designs. Mainly the 25x25m platforms were estimated to cost around $10 million. But I've seen that they are doing different variations with bungalows and condos, so they might be priced differently.

Nothing will really be set in stone until all of the engineering and design is done which is the main bulk of what the ICO funds will go toward. But the goal is to average around $200k per person to live there.

Wow, great news here :D This will sure attract a lot more people now, some bonuses and lesser minimum required :D Can you share info about how much funds has been raised already or that's a no go?

Great article and nice to see project is being promoted in public.Kinda backtracking to your previous video about 20 areas for blockchain integration on island.About polling one- have you heard about ClearPoll Elwar?

Great to see that minimum investment has been significantly lowered, this will get more people willing to invest and that is most important thing to happen for project to be successful at the moment.Good to see that team is making good decision and showing flexibility :D

how can we volunteer for the project and support it? What does team need or could use in terms of volunteers at the moment?

I wanted to know more so I went to  https://www.blue-frontiers.com/en/varyon and it seems you have to give them all your information before you're able to buy the tokens or sign up. That's a bit discouraging. I like the project but I'm usually very careful about sites that want more than my email.

How far away from the shore will those settlements be?

wish you the best for this project, hopefully can all go smoothly and its sales also could achieve the targeted results, and best wishes for his future will be a growing number of investors who are interested in this project, a success for future projects.

Right now the main focus is on the ICO so creating content and spreading the word through the Bounty program is probably the best way.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3742962.0;topicseen

If you have some expertise you would like to contribute, please contact Blue Frontiers here:
https://www.blue-frontiers.com/en/contact

If you just want more information you can sign up on that link at the bottom or subscribe on this link at the bottom: https://www.blue-frontiers.com
to get on the mailing list.

The company will be doing full KYC/AML for the sale so they will definitely be taking information for that.

Being an actual physical company building real world physical things they have to follow more regulations than just utility tokens. We talked to more lawyers than we had ever hoped to talk to about all of this. Being a Singapore company with founders in 4 different countries building in French Polynesia and likely more countries, it was not your typical out of the box company. Blue Frontiers is erring on the side of caution by taking every step necessary to follow the letter of the law on this. Some ICOs have had to return the funds raised and none of the founders want to go to jail for violating the law.

Hopefully through seasteading we can introduce a bit more freedom in governance so that things like KYC/AML are something we look back at and laugh about.

We are still vetting several locations in French Polynesia. I will personally be going to sites, likely in July, to do some depth testing, some aerial viewing, etc. to see how viable the locations are.

The plan is to find a location that is as calm as possible while still fairly close to shore within a protected lagoon. It would likely only be out a few hundred meters to begin with. They will also be taking into account the coral reef and ensuring that we locate it in a place that has zero impact (unless helpful) to the wildlife in the lagoon.

I hope the ICO in this project can go smoothly and quickly achieved success with a large number of support for this project.

That is called KYC and it's almost standard today for project to go for it.Brings more transparency to the project.

I checked it out and that's about what we should be looking for to get a consensus of what people support on the seastead.


Though I can understand why they did so, their code is not open source. For any major vote I would want to ensure that the system is open and transparent. But for getting a feel for how people feel this is a great app.

I wrote one of the first voting systems for Bitcoin many years back and have seen many different products since. The blockchain is a great tool for open/secure voting.

Aha, so you are looking only for open source so you can check the code?

In Elwar we trust :D Good to see that the person with who we can communicate directly oversees so many details and actively participates in lots of segments in the project.I agree that it is better for start when everything is being based on trial and error and finding best solutions for numerous problems to be close to shore if anything goes wrong  or adjustments are needed.Hopefully those green organizations won't cause to many problems.

Thanks Elwar. Going to check out the bounty.What kind of content would be the best to create regarding videos? Focus on the vision and idea or more on VAR and blockchain side of the project?

Whatever you're most comfortable with. Go with what you know :)

Been checking the roadmap and couldn't find any details about when do you plan to be listed on exchanges? Do you have any timeframe or aprox. idea?

i guess it will happen sometimes soon after end of sale.

When you expect to have first settlements?

Thank you for sahring that,looking good!

The goal is for the first platform to be built in 2021.

Do you plan to have settlements in Europe too?

We want to have these all over the world.

You can sign up for the $100k contest to try to bring a Blue Frontiers seastead to your country:
https://www.blue-frontiers.global/

Wow great,i think Europe would be good place for this kind of thing.

Do you already have some people interested in moving there ?

We get thousands of e-mails from people wanting to move there. The demand is certainly there.

So if we manage to sort out that you come to certain country we get rewarded?

Come on Adriatic sea :D That would be awesome :D

That would be really good to have exchange lined up instantly after the sale ends.Exchanges are quite expensive to get listed on, especially good ones and process is sometimes a bit long.Do you plan to go for big one or few small ones first?

From the website:

It looks like a very interesting offer from your project, hopefully, many who give support to this project in order to quickly succeed and all concepts and also the destination could soon be realized.

true, I also see the purpose of this project is very big in the wake and need large funds anyway I hope many investors who are interested in the project so that the project can be fluently and successfully developed.

Saw your project on the national newspaper today, the whole page,it started about how we"ll have a bunch of floating cities in the future and at the end  about blue frontiers company and their upcoming ico. The best thing is that I dont think that that was payed marketing and the biggest newspapers in the county wrote about this subject because its interesting.

Very cool.

Great podcast with Robert Viglione of ZenCash about seasteading and Blue Frontiers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWUT2eKMERA

You can check out all of the podcasts including an interview with David Friedman (Milton Friedman's son) here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWUT2eKMERA&list=PLQlyH_Kk03b-5eU68XoHN_xUEzSEC0AMQ

How is presale going?

Last time the wallets were tallied they were at about a third of the soft cap.

They have pretty much decided to continue the presale until soft cap is reached. The bulk of it has been the past week as we are working on getting the word out so things are looking good.

Do you maybe still have it? Could you share the article here with us?

Thank you for sharing it her.Where would be the best place to track all that is happening with Blue Frontiers so I don't miss news like this?

I think the best would be to join telegram group.

https://t.me/bluefrontierscommunity

Thats actually good idea,tp take it slow and not force it.Main goal should always be soft cap.

What currencies do you accept in ICO?

When can we expect exchanges?

Really?Its great to hear Varyon is getting quality exposure.Can you maybe share that link?

For the presale Blue Frontiers accepts ETH, BTC and ZEN.

For the public sale it will all be automated through the smart contract via ETH.

I think he is referring to the Le Figaro article in France.

https://image.ibb.co/ithPBT/newsarticle.jpg

If someone wants to buy some property on the floating island,he will have to pay with VAR only?

Yes. Buying, renting, registering your property, etc.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwCu4IuSmvc

Wow that quiet good advertisement,this project needs all attention it can get!

Do you have anyone already interested in buying one of those islands?

We get thousands of people wanting to move to the seastead emailing us.

I don't doubt that organizations will want to buy a full platform for their business or organization or even political movements wanting to try out their political ideal on a small scale.

Yeah, when we reach soft cap we are already good then.Means project is on for sure and everything is bonus from there.

Thanks Elwar, it's nice to see it, even though I don't understand French.At least I can find it now on web and use google as a friend :D This kind of article means a lot, it's pretty significant being in national newspaper!

It will come, lets not rush things.First we reach soft cap and when sale is done team will have news about exchange for sure then :D

News about Blue Frontiers Global Contest with Startup Societies Foundation
http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/environment/building-sustainable-floating-islands-in-special-economic-zones/article/522016

project is reallt getting attention,and that is great,as its something different in this crypto ICO market.

Whats the estimates price for one of these houses there on the floating island?

Is there a place where we can check the progress of the sale?How much has been sold?

It think that it was mention that guesstimate is around 200k for a house on the island.Payed in Var ofc :D Maybe if there will be like apartments they will be cheaper?

I would love to live on a SEA STEAD and I think 200k is quite reasonable. I think now is the time to invest and if the value of the token blows up it will be cheaper to buy. I am wondering how many whales are going to go in to invest with several hundred k USD worth of tokens which will give them a house very cheap, especially if the coin moons. I plan to invest but of course I don't have much spare but am determined to invest in the presale. I am wondering when will it be ready the initial one in 2021 or beforehand? I am going to follow this project very closely as I really want to be a part of it.  :) EDIT just saw 2021 as the first seastead deployment, so I have to wait three more years. I hope by then the price moons of VAR and I can buy a house there.

I have an interesting question.Will you try to get workers and companies that will be needed to build everything and pay them in crypto or you plan to go for normal real world companies and fiat in that arena?

Same thing here, really nice way to "retire" from normal world.Kinda wondering what kind of structure of the people will live there?I think it will be pretty colorful.

Yes,we can be sure that exchanges will come,usually soon after end of the ICO,no ned to worry about that

They are working on putting a ticker on the website.

Last count was 1250 ETH (equivalent).

Im pretty sure those companies will ask to be paid in fiat.

It will all depend on the employees and companies. Blue Frontiers will try to pay as many vendors and employees in varyon. Many of their current employees and companies they work with now have opted to get paid in BTC and ETH.

The money raised during the ICO will be split between BTC, ETH, USD and EUR to make payments for all of the work through 2021.

And what is the soft cap,in ETH?

4000 ETH

Hello,

 i am supporting this project and i believe in it, because it has good reviews from the team of Zencash, another trustworthy and reliable project on the go.


Good luck!

Yes, we love ZenCash at Blue Frontiers. Mainly due to Robert Viglione coming to the seasteading conference last year and being a genuinely nice guy who believes in the tech.

I hope that the expertise with that team can contribute to some blockchain advances on the seastead and somehow integrate easily with varyon.

Here's a short interview at the TechInAsia conference with one of Blue Frontiers' advisors, Dorjee Sun, talking about sea level rise and seasteading.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WdPu5bNIEE

That seems somehow low for this kind of project.There will be more sale stages later,if needed?

From varyon.io

Distribution
4-28%*   Public sale
7-8%   Presale
5-6%   Blue Frontiers seed funders
10-15%   Blue Frontiers team
45-72%   Seastead/SeaZone Construction, Development, Administration

* The amount of Varyon (VAR) allotted to seastead/SeaZone Construction, Development, Administration is inversely correlated with the amount purchased in the public sale. That is, the more Varyon (VAR) sold in the public sale, the less Varyon (VAR) held for seastead/SeaZone Construction, Development, Administration.

Blue Frontiers plans to prototype the first seastead with funds raised from the Varyon (VAR) Crowdsale, and to fund additional seasteads through sales. The Varyon (VAR) Blue Frontiers holds for seastead and SeaZone Construction, Development, and Administration will be used only as needed, in order to create seasteads and SeaZones and to strengthen the ecosystem of products and services available to Varyon (VAR) holders.

4,000 ETH    Soft cap
22,000 ETH    Hard cap

Michael Arrington just tweeted about the project:

https://twitter.com/arrington/status/999035151681122305

Also:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Arrington

Wow thats great,that guy is really influental,and it will bring alot of attention!

This is indeed a very good sign that there are serious people who are interested in this project and will back it. We are investing one eth with my wife, I wish we had more to invest but unfortunately the bear market has left us in tatters but I will support and promote the project as much as we can and get more awareness to it also. One billion tokens total supply is very good as well because VAR will be the only token to be used by Blue Frontiers so more sea steads get built the value should increase as the demand for the token will rise all the time as more people want to use it. This may be your next 100 x project you are looking for..

I also cant invest much,but for sure i can spread awareness about this project,and  i will help as much as i can!

Nice to see that cooperations in crypto related to this project are already sprouting in such an early stage and ZenCash is trustworthy project also.

Who are those Blue Frontiers seed funders?

Keep sharing those interviews, it's nice to see people in the team and hear more about the project and how people from the team go about it.Is that girl your PR, the one conducting the interview?

Never heard of him, but after reading about him, this looks awesome news :D

Is it possible to reserve one of those houses now?

I believe it is a bit early since the sale is not done yet and you will have to do it with VAR exclusively.Though that would be nice if we could do it right after the sale and help the project that way.

No, Bitcoin Girl Thailand isn't Blue Frontiers' PR girl. She just loves Bitcoin and loves this project so she promotes it a lot. She also joined the bounty program to get a few VAR out of promoting it.

Our head of marketing is Laurel Tincher (https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurel-tincher-4244803b/) and our seavangalesse is Nathalie Mezza Garcia (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathaliemezzagarcia/)

They did an early seed funding round last year to get things going, pay for environmental and economic impact studies, design work, lawyers, consulting, etc.

Most seed funders were friends and family of the founders, as well as the founders putting their own money in. A few bitcoin folks who were known seasteading supporters put in some money, including myself. No big names that most people have heard of.

Where exactly is your team headquarters?

Yeah its important to get those early investors and supporters,to get the project going.

You one of those crypto whales?

The company is truly international. We have a house in Tahiti but just about everything is done online. Meetings are done via Zoom. Coordination done through Basecamp and other tools. The Founders live all over the world.

The hope is that once the legislation passes this summer we will establish a land base on the chosen atoll for preliminary building and housing for future construction workers.

the project is really awesome! cant wait to see the actual construction of these floating islands. this has a lot of strategic partners already so maybe we will witness the creation of this kind of community in the very near future

https://medium.com/@bluefrontiers/varyon-in-the-news-facts-and-fictions-9a832e5d775c

Yeah, it was mentioned that there will be further sales in later stages of development if that will be needed.

Thanks for clearing that up :D Nice to see that people can do some non-traditional ways of bounties and support the project that way.She is doing a good job by the way, keep those videos coming :D

Nice to see we are making some waves, this will help the project and bring more people in.Hopefully people that know that this a long term project and that it will take time, that's the profile of people this project really needs.

Excellent project, as i read the article i find it very ambitious and very huge project.  I should say the dev team has the capability to properly enhance and development that greatly gives opportunites to the real world.

1ETH is a lot of money for me to invest in one peoject although I really love this one. I'll wait until this coin is available at exchanges and buy from there.

VAR is a general purpose payment token for the exchange of goods and services in the Blue Frontiers ecosystem, other ecosystems, and between token holders. Blue Frontiers is planning to use the proceeds of the sale to expand its ecosystem and create SeaZones and seasteads, and will only accept Varyon (VAR) for its products and services.

You can always invest less you don't have to invest that much

1 ETH is the minimum for the presale.

.1 BTC, 1 ETH or 20 ZEN

I am going in with one or two ETH. Mind you I see this as a very long term hodl because the first sea stead won't be ready until around 2021, BUT I am sure they will have a use for the token before then, but make sure you have in mind this will be a long term keeper. I can see this doing at least 100 x by the time the sea stead gets built and is inhabited and the homes have been sold etc. I think if everyone invests at least one or two eth here and forgets about it for a bit, it might be one of those great sleepers. I like the project a lot that's the reason for investing here, not for the quick gains.

During main sale minimum will be less than 1 ETH?

Definitely. We're all in this for the long haul. If you're looking for a pump & dump this is not it.

It will also be a minimum of 1 ETH for the main sale from everything I have seen so far. They have to pay for KYC/AML for each person buying.

Well i hope it works for them,but 1 ETH as minimum is a lot i think,especially  considering the current market situation.0.5 ETH would be nice number ,and more accessible.

I didnt know that KYC and AML are so expensive,i thought its few dollars each.

Do you plan to lock early investor tokens for some time,in case they got big bonus?

They are still looking at the length of time for locking some of the tokens. It will certainly be part of the smart contract for all to see during the public sale.

How much does KYC and AML actually cost?

Yeah, this project could make the money for people. but as I said in previous post this project needs people with vision and people that nurture the same philosophy as the team.This project is truly about better future, more acceptable way of life that has no negative impact on life around itself and new technologies along with it that will make life easier and much more pleasant then it is now in these "normal" structures in our countries with bad and slow solutions, processes and corruption.

It makes sense, because it is being done per person and since this is a project that is extra long term for crypto sphere it makes sense to ask investors to get in with a bit more significant sum from the get go.This ensures that only people that truly believe in this beautiful project invest and kind o discourages money grabbers :D I wouldn't mind if minimum investment was even higher, but that would make it a bit harder for lots of people that love the project and what it stands for to invest and support it.

Situation aint best on the market at the moment,so i hope project wont have issues raising funds,as its unique project.

an interesting project, concepts that are offered are very good and have a very useful purpose. Hopefully this project runs smoothly and could develop going forward.

the project was indeed interesting hopefully for more and more support for the project so that the team is increasingly confident in managing and developing projects.

I really also see something interesting from this project, hopefully his team will always maintain cohesiveness in working for the success of this project, and of course this project will be much in demand of investors in the future,  success this project always.

I myself am convinced that the team will be compact in cooperation with participants to manage and develop the projects because of course, they want the best for the project.

because of good cooperation is indeed very influential towards the progress of the next project, hopefully they'll always compact, until the target is reached.

true and agree with all its, this project will be successful if all involved here always keep cohesiveness in its work, surely for success will be easy to reach later, hoping the best for this project forward.

hopefully with the cohesiveness of the team will provide satisfactory results later on, I'm sure the team who are in this project will always try the best for all its.

Despite the market being in tatters right now and many leaving the crypto markets, this project is great for idealists and those who dream of a better future for themselves and their kids and family. I am in a bit of a bind financially right now but I am really hoping I can at least scrape together one eth to buy in the presale, just because I am hoping to be alive still in 2021 to see the very first sea stead built from this company. I know it's a kind of very far off project and it's not the type of coin that shouts moon right off the bat, but if this gets built, it could be an awesome gateway into real crypto communities thriving and surviving away from the other worldly turmoils.

I think its few dollars each atleast.It adds up when you have to pay for many people.

This looks to be the trend in investments. A lot of people putting in 1 ETH to at least be part of it.

Definitely not a pump and dump, this project will be around for a long time.

Yeah,this is obviosuly long term project,and will attract serious investors,so 1 ETH as minimum investment shouldnt be any problem.

Great interview with Yuri Lobynstev, Cindicator’s Co-Founder and CTO and startegic partnership with Blue Frontiers.About decision making on sasteads and how Cindicator can help with that.

Great to see presentation about another strategic partner and philosophy behind it and why this partnership came to be and what will be done.Well worth to watch the whole interview, it shows how big and well thought Blue Frontiers as project is and how everything was meticulously planned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XKAB48_qco

Great post and summarizes the situation quite adequately.It is indeed a bit tough situation with market being in this state and that could steer some people away from investing in this project simply because it does not yell "moon" or "gains" and that is ok.As you said this project will be like a beacon that will show others what can be done if you aim higher and do leg work and put proper effort into a great idea.It will show how we can build a community based on blockchain technology and maybe even more important show what can be achieved when blockchain companies put their minds together and cooperate on a larger scale.You mentioned that this could seclude community from worldly turmoils and I agree with this partially, but the real win would be integration with world and acceptance and showing everyone else how this kind of community can be better then the way we do things today.

Nicely said,those who are into quick pump and dump will surely stay away from this project,and that can only benefit us who are into this for a long run

In case you reach hard cap,how will that affect the project?Any chance to get those settlements sooner than its stated in the roadmap?

Reaching the hard cap means not taking time to work on funding for those first settlements. The road map is conservative, the whole project is about not overstating.

If it is reached Blue Frontiers will own all of the first dozen platforms and can have a more controlled environment which allows for presenting something more cohesive to the world.  Instead they can rent homes and businesses for higher revenue which they can then use to put toward more platforms.

They would also have less reserves (which are going toward the initial platforms anyway) which means more varyon in the hands of more people instead of the largest portion held by Blue Frontiers.

Projects with unique innovations, making the residence floating in the sea. But this is only for people who can make a lot of money there. but overall the Blue Frontiers project is very interesting.

I see,thank you for detailed answer.

Hopefully you will reach hard cap,as it would make it much easier for the team .

While its true that only those with deep pockets will be able to afford house there,still doesnt mean you shouldnt invest.

Exactly, myself personally simply want to support this kind of project that has some higher goals and ideals and help it to go there.I'm not calculating will I be able to have a housing there, if some of us will that is progress and important step for all of us after all.

Thank you for sharing this one here.Nice to see another partnership that deals with important aspect of life on seasted like decision making. Cindicator is trustworthy partner, I invested in Cindicator a while ago tried out Cindicator Bot and must say it is really good.

Elwar any other blockchain project you are looking into to partner with?Do you have any candidates on the horizon?

I was just thinking about 100k dollars competition.Did you receive any aplications already ? Would be cool to have some new on that part as soon as we have aplication so we can check possible option for a seasted that way :D

Do you have any working theories or ideas already on the subject of moving a floating seasted.What would be used to move it over the sea in case on need for a relocation?

Good question, will be interesting to hear the answer. hopefully Elwar can provide as always hehehe

What I was also wondering about would be waves and issues that some kind of bad weather and strong winds can create.I'm pretty sure team has already put some thought into this possibility since it's a floating island so it's common sense :D What I would like to know did team think about using the waves and energy they create to produce electricity for the seasted that way? That would a great way to do it and really eco-friendly.Also adding windmills on sea could be a great way too!

ye it would be good to have some kind of contingency plan,just in case.

I would love to hear the contingency plan too, I would like to know that this project is really well thought out of considering everything that could go wrong.

Whats that about 100k competition,can you share some link please?

a project that is unique and interesting, offers a very nice concept. Let us give support for this project, so that this project can run smoothly and can be realized.

not just the support that can make this project a success but it must also be balanced by teamwork and cohesiveness, because if the project gets a lot of support but the team involved does not have any cohesiveness it will certainly fail, too, certainly everyone involved in this project will have a achieve the success of this project.

I agree with you, success and failure of a project it does depend on how the team manages the project with good. If all the people who work in the project will always work hard with good, certainly the expected targets could be easily achieved.

It's true, we can't see that project can succeed only by seeing from a great concept and a lot of support.
but it all depends on all the teams that are working in this project, if they do his work properly and very good, of course this project could be a huge success and give satisfactory results.

Seasteading as a solution to rising seas:

https://medium.com/@bluefrontiers/seasteading-as-a-solution-to-rising-seas-85cc7e809a90

Nice article,thank you for sharing.This project could really be solution for sea level rise,as stated in the article.

Yes,when you have something like floating islands,you have to think about everything .

Im sure team will test everything and area where they plan to install first one will be safe.

How come you chose french polynesia,to start the project there?

Yeah, there is a competition to bring seasted to your country for 100k prize.

here is the link where you can learn more about it:

https://www.blue-frontiers.global/

Thank you for sharing the article, it has so much great information about the project.Though I haven't seen anything related to relocating the island if that will be needed, can you come back to us regarding that issue?

Great article, nice to see how much work has been put into the project! It says it could create up to 800 jobs, would some of those jobs be outsourced off the seasted?

An interesting idea in the team, for me it seems like a kind of fantasy, but everything can be a reality and it's exciting! I wish success to the team!

The initial seasteads will not focus on moving too much. There have been some designs where each unit is small enough to be loaded onto a tanker and moved (for long distances) or for short distances wait for a calm day and use a tug type of boat to pull it.

only rich people can afford this seasteads. now, blockchain is making a big impact and even ordinary users can partially own it. but i think in the long run, small time investors can have only those tokens but not really owning a seastead. they are just mere holders of tokens. but why not, just the idea of having such kind of ownership might do you good, mentally.  ;D

There will be a wide range of people on the seastead, some renting, some there for vacation, some owning. At the very least you can use your varyon to go on a vacation to visit the seastead and meet the interesting people that will be living there.

How close to the land you plan to install those settlements?

So people will be able to buy house there and then rent it,earning VAR that way?

Any plans for something like floating hotel there,in the future?

Wow this projects is something elese,really futuristic,and pushing blockchain purpose even further.Good luck team!

What will happen in case you dont reach soft cap?You plan to send money back to investors,or you will prolong the sale untill your reach soft cap?

I'm sure that actually visiting seasted and spending some time there and use it for networking and similar things will be a great opportunity as there will be people from all sectors for sure and people that share the vision.So I see that as a very exciting opportunity.

Thanks for answering Elwar. It makes sense off course to focus first on making things work in a safe lagoon and work from there and moving platforms with tugboats is really realistic way to doo it.

I guess I was just fantasizing about what can be invented to move it in future as I like this project so much and it's progressive approach  :D Who knows what will be invented in 2021 :D

I'm pretty optimistic and pretty sure we will reach soft cap.This project does not need to worry about reaching soft cap and in case if that happens extending the sale would be very good solution for sure.

It will be around few hundred meters from the shore in initial phase, just in case something goes wrong while lot of things will be tested on seasted in the begining.

I am thinking the same thing as well but there are too many coin flippers in this space right now and those investing in this project need to be both passionate about blockchain, decentralization, improved governance and seasteading as a new and improved way of life. So we need to attract more real investors who would be willing to hold this token for a few years. So I doubt we will get much investment from the pumpers and dumpers and coin flippers. I hope they prolong the sale because this is a project with great vision and people are willing to buy VAR now so they can actually use it as a utility token down the line that is the best bet in my books. I am going to try to get at least one eth in.

Just made a blog review on this project so it gets more traction. At least we have intelligent convos in their telegram group as well.

http://bitbillions.net/2018/06/02/altcoin-review-blue-frontiers-introduces-varyon-crypto-gateway-to-seasteading-paradise/    :)

Good read,thank you for spreading an awareness about this great project!

Yes makes sense to keep it close,just in case something happens.

it would take so much money and effort, if the location of those seasteds are not very accessible. so only few can afford such opportunity. anyway, good to see something like this. i hope this will be realized soon.

I understand what you mean, but I don't see why the seasted would be hard to reach? As I mentioned team has stated that seasted would be not further then just a few hundred meters from the shoreline, so basicly any smaller boat would be able to transport people there od daily basis.Also it will be located in a safe lagoon protected as much as possible from open water so it will be easy to get there.

Thank you for putting in some work to spread the word about the project and I agree with you about the way this project should be perceived and what kind of investor it needs to strive to attract to make sure everything can be done step by step and thoroughly.

Thanks for the review and so nice to see more people who believe in this project and its vision to break free from tradtitional ways.

Im sure there will be people who will see buying seasted as an investment,and they will rent the place,so you wont have to be extremely rich to experience something like this.

Is there any blockchain project that is into lending and renting properties? Might be a potential partner if we get to the point where people that own a property on the seasted want to rent it :D

Interesting idea,something new in the crypto world.What will be the location of the first floating island?

French Polyensia has been chosen as the first location,but i think we can expect these things all around the world once its proven as success there.

Do you have any competition at the moment?

I know that this is unique idea,but since blockchain technology is getting into everything,i thought that maybe someone else is trying to do  similar thing.

How come French Polynesia?Somehow i thought it would be somewhere in the mediterranean sea.

Ah ok,thank you for  an answer.I had to google to see where that is,exotic location,and it looks beautiful :)

There are several. https://rentberry.com/ is one.

Blue Frontiers wants to partner with as many blockchain companies as possible to make the seastead as blockchain friendly as they can. Using things like Rentberry for rentals, others for crypto voting, property registration, citizenship, etc...

They're not a blockchain company so they will definitely be looking for partners to utilize their unique environment for testing their new projects and getting the word out about the results.

Nah, there is no competition for VAR and Blue Frontiers and if there was I'd welcome it, it would be good for more projects to try to create their own eco-sytem, that would be moving in right direction for all of us after all.

Even though I adore this project and wish it all the best I must say I agree with you that if there was competition it would actually mean only good things for people in general.I would not look at it as a competition at all, but an awesome opportunity to for cooperations and better development of different ways of governance then this world is used to :D

And after all of this I said Blue Frontiers has already shown that it is all about cooperation and making good partnerships to ensure that on seasted we have only best possible solutions!! :D

Cool , great to see that you already have candidates for partnerships for almost any area we come up with! Thanks for showing https://rentberry.com/ to us, I checked it out and they look like an awesome material for partnership and I will use them for personal needs for sure from now on :D

That place is beautiful and offers perfect conditions for a seasted.Mediterranean sea would also be cool, there are some nice spots there, but you could just buy an island in Adriatic sea instead then lol

Is there any info how much have me collected until now?How is the sale going?

Interesting ideas that will require great initial capital and certainly. You definitely have a lot of experts on the team and competent people in their field,
I hope you succeed!

There is a ticker on the website, varyon.io

Currently at 1381 ETH (varies based on the price of our bitcoin holdings).

Seems like a good number.What is the soft cap?

You accept only BTC and ETH during ICO?

Soft cap is 4000 ETH.

This week we will start opening up for accredited US investors so that should bump things up fairly quickly.

During the presale we accept BTC, ETH and ZEN. During the actual sale we will be using the smart contract for purchase which will only allow for sending ETH.

Any plans for those kind of floating islands in Greece?I think it would be a  good place for something like that.

How come you accept ZEN?Not an usual choice for accepted  crypto currencies during ICO.

Blue Frontiers has partnered with ZenCash. A major focus of their cryptocurrency is blockchain based governance solutions and privacy. I am not a ZenCash expert so I can't comment much on the technology but hopefully their team can provide some governance solutions for the seastead. We definitely want to partner with many blockchain players to provide blockchain based solutions to things that governments currently do centrally. Blue Frontiers is not a blockchain business so they will be looking to others to solve these problems for the seastead. 

Here's one of our founders, Randy Hencken with Robert Viglione discussing Blue Frontiers and ZenCash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52InKG3PmAw

Seasteads would be great in such an island nation such as Greece.

We are having a contest right now paying $100k to find the next seastead location.

https://www.blue-frontiers.global/

The ICO's problem is that if the company succeeds in bringing a real floating island off the coast of French Polynesia, there is really no way to be sure this will happen, and because the price The long-term value of the Varyon token is entirely dependent on this, so it's clear that this is a very risky venture.

Correct. Like every other ICO there is the risk that the company won't follow through.

Blue Frontiers is holding a majority of varyon in reserves. They have the largest stake in making this happen so they are incentivized to make it happen.

Most ICOs try to get all of the money up front with the promise that they'll get around to building what they promised (as they drive around in their lambos). The small upfront raise of varyon ensures that Blue Frontiers will do everything it can to ensure that the value of the varyon holds in the long term.

Exactly  the same thing could be said for all the ICOs,even the biggest ones,like EOS that raised 4 billion dollars.

There is no guarantee,we invest our money into something we believe in ,we support it and hope for the best.Thats all we can do as investors.

What do you mean by "sustainable"?

Sustainable refers to working toward being resource independent from a supply route. At first most things will be a hybrid approach, perhaps utilizing current resources on the host island or atoll.

The plan is to be energy independent, recycle our own waste, gather and store our own water, create our own food, etc.

While we won't be making our own computers or having herds of cattle for steaks, we hope to reach the point where someone could live on the seastead without the need of anything from outside of the seastead. Of course, for more pleasurable living we would rely on trade.

This has big implications for things like growing populations or refugees. During the Syrian refugee crisis there was a very rich man that wanted to spend millions to buy an island for the refugees. If we can create a sustainable floating island where anyone living there has all the resources they need to live, then it will solve a lot of the world's problems.

We acknowledge that food will be the most difficult starting out but the rest should be possible early on.

Can't believe I missed that you are already partners with ZenCash.That is really good, more the merrier, this could be like crypto hub indeed.

Thanks Elwar.We are progressing just fine and when US joins in it will be even better for sure.

US based investors will be able to join later?

Thank you for the detailed answer,sounds great what you are trying to achieve.

Precisely and that is why I like this project so much, because it will make only people that truly believe in the vision to invest.Everyone else who just wants to make a quick buck will steer clear away from it and I think that is better for the project overall.

Yeah acredited US investor will soon be able to invest :D

Why they cant join now,whats the current issue?

But still,you need those  people in the end.

I seriosuly doubt it would be possible to raise enough money without those that are into this for a quick flip,expecting something different in crypto would be unrealistic.I see them as necessary evil.

Accredited investors will be going through a separate KYC/AML process that also involves proving their accredited status (they have to have made at least $200k in the past 2 years or have at least $1 million in assets).

Is it the same thing with investors from China,or they wont be able to join at all?

What is the difference between KYC and AML?

KYC is Know Your Customer. Basically verifying your identity.
AML is Anti-Money Laundering. Basically finding out where the money is coming from.

I would speak freely about what I think about KYC/AML but I am somewhat representing Blue Frontiers so I will play nice.

Likely not unless their laws change. They outright outlawed ICOs.

Surprisingly a useful real-world idea detached from copying other ICO projects making the same things over again!

Will bookmark your project even while I never have seen any real-world ICO funded projects requiring huge investments completed so far.

Maybe it's time to break this trend, who knows :)

Thanks. We have worked with a lot of the crypto industry from top lawyers to various ICO companies who have tried to wrap their heads around the complexity of this project (foreign company with founders living all over the world where the company will be building all over the world allowing investment from all over the world...etc.) but we feel that we have been able to get all of our ducks in a row for the token. Fortunately the project has received a lot of media attention and is gaining a lot of interest so it is certainly viable that the project will move forward.

I think times are changing and that today you have more people in crypto that look at this as opportunity to create a better world, better tech, not just take money and run.

Wow, didn't know that requirements are so high and rigorous.On the flipside most of those investors will surely bring in some significant investment along  :D

But man, we understand what you wanna say,you are mad because our privacy is continuously invaded... but we also have to understand that in todays world its almost impossible without that. Maybe you dont have bad intentions but some people definitely have them and there is no other solution... how would you solve problems like bribery,corruption,money laundering and a lots of other illegal intentions?

Just popped in real quickly to share the video about ZenCash and Varyon as it was spoken about few days ago and there was not much information about and I was learning about it also as this kind of went under the radar here and it is very important for the project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWUT2eKMERA

Hopefully we can figure out a better way on the seasteads ;)

Good one,thank you for sharing,i somehow missed that one

I think  thats just an excuse,they pretend that they want to solve issues like corruption and money laundering by KYC/AML,but what they really want is to get all your info so they can tax you and get their piece of cake.Thats what goverments really want,thats their ultimate goal.YOUR money.

Remember,taxation is theft!

This is an ambitious AND deals with a real world problem. The use of tokens to essentially act as a currency for the planned islands, with our investment being used as the means to build the islands, is a great way to raise the funds.

When I first read about this project, I thought it was a bit out there. But I encourage anyone reading about it to also check out the youtube clips and discussion at the United Nations on this work. The team are really thinking this through and I'll be following the project.

Also, nice to see zencash as an eligible form of investment! Usually ico's are in BTC and Eth, so good to see other great coins being supported.

The pre-ico investment entry point is a bit high for me, but I'll be looking out for the ico and any marketing/bounty you have :)

 

What will be the benefits for Varyon,from this partnership with zencash?

ZenCash is very much focused on decentralized governance so they should be able to build some of the governance tools for the seasteads. I know they are working on a private voting system. As I have mentioned before, Blue Frontiers is not a blockchain company...it is a seastead building company. So they will be looking to partner with others to take care of many of the blockchain based solutions to governance. ZEN has a setup where they pay developers like how Bitcoin pays miners. So if some of the developers are getting paid for projects that can be used on the seastead then that is beneficial to all seasteaders. Of course there will need to be built a simple interaction between varyon and ZEN so that people with ZEN can use their tools.

Of course that is the other side of the medal.It serves to regulate a bit better  and also to get all our data so we can be taxed easier.It's a necessary evil if you ask me.

Yeah this makes sense.I see some people get confused about difference between Blue Frontiers and Varyon and interaction between them and how partnerships affect them.Can you explain how Blue Frontiers and Varyon interact and partnerships that affect them?

I have been checking out the concepts for a seasted and must say that I prefer the first solution over the second one.It looks more environment friendly with mini marina and more green areas all over it :D Kind of reminds me of Shire for lord of the rings :D

You can check it out here and maybe share your opinions :D

https://www.blue-frontiers.com/en/assets

Thanks for sharing.I checked it out and I agree with you on this one. First solution looks more in tune with the surroundings to me too.Though the second solution might be more suitable for people who like when it looks futuristic, like progressive, kind off goes well with the idea of new tech so it makes sense also.

Since there was some information about ZenCash and partnerships I was digging a bit and found that there are lots of podcasts on Blue Frontiers website about all of this, project and much more and you learn a lot by listening to those podcasts!

https://www.blue-frontiers.com/en/podcasts

Elwar are those gonna be posted regularly? I really like it as it is much easier to listen then to read that much information.

Yes, I believe they are doing several podcasts hoping to keep it a regular thing.

Varyon will be the only currency that Blue Frontiers accepts. So even if ZenCash is being used for some blockchain solution, if it interacts with Blue Frontiers it will need to convert to varyon at some point.

Blue Frontiers will want to keep the value of varyon up because it holds a lot of varyon in reserves and will use it for future construction all over the world.

You do plan to get listed on the exchanges,right?

Thanks for sharing that!Its great  to see that community is involved,digging for info and sharing with others.

They're in talks but of course not until after the sale.

ICO Analysis: Varyon
Published on May 30, 2018
By Fredrik Vold

Team
Since the Varyon ICO is launched by the already established company Blue Frontiers, the team appears pretty strong, particularly when it comes to the concept of seasteading, special economic zones, legal, and administration.
The company was originally spun off of the non-profit The Seasteading Institute, and therefore shares many of the same employees. The key members of the management team consist of:
    Randy Hencken, Director at The Seasteading Institute, leader of The Floating City Project, and early cryptocurrency adopter.
    Joe Quirk, President of The Seasteading Institute and co-author of the book Seasteading: How Floating Nations Will Restore the Environment, Enrich the Poor, Cure the Sick, and Liberate Humanity from Politicians.
    Marc Collins, serial entrepreneur and former Minister of Tourism of French Polynesia.
    Nicolas Germineau, entrepreneur, software developer, and Ambassador of The Seasteading Institute since 2011.
    Egor Ryjikov, Belarusian inventor, investor, and entrepreneur. Ambassador of The Seasteading Institute since 2009.
Other than the names listed above, Blue Frontiers also has a long list of advisors that are associated with the company. This includes specialists in fields such as Special Economic Zones, tourism, engineering, journalism, and other areas relevant to the project.
The only thing we can see lacking from the list of team members is more people with relevant blockchain experience. There are a few blockchain developers on the team, but in reality there are very few of these people compared to other blockchain projects we have reviewed.
One could argue that an ICO of this type doesn’t need a lot of blockchain professionals to carry out their project, but I would still argue that having at least some people who have experience with ICOs would be an advantage. It would probably also help with carrying out the ICO in a more professional manner, and avoiding issues like launching the pre-sale without having a complete white paper, which is what the company is currently doing.

Verdict
Although The Seasteading Institute has signed an MoU with the French Polynesian government about the construction of a floating island in its territorial waters, it appears that strong opposition to the project exists both within the government and in the Polynesian population, as reported by Radio New Zealand in February. To be fair though, it is believed that with the elections in French Polynesia being over, politicians there will now have more flexibility in terms of moving forward with projects of this type that may be unpopular among some people.
Another potential problem we see here is that The Seasteading Insitute has already been around for quite a long time and has failed in past attempts at setting up real-world seasteads. The most notable of these was a planned prototype seastead that was to be set up by The Seasteading Institute in the San Francisco Bay by 2010, according to Wikipedia. Despite an investment by Peter Thiel totaling $1.7 million, this has never happened.
Investors in Varyon need to be aware that in order for this investment to pay off in any way at all, it is essential that an actual real-world seastead is built and deployed on the ocean. Unfortunately, the track record of past attempts of doing this does not look very promising, but we certainly hope that this time will be different.

Growth potential
    Smart contract code has been audited by an independent third party. +1
    Rising sea-levels is a risk that is threatening inhabitants in places like French Polynesia. Raising awareness about this and proposing new solutions is something that will probably help boost public support in the host nations of seasteads, which is critical in order for the project to be brought to life. +3
    Lots of people are excited about this project and support the idea of creating floating islands with independent governance, and some of these people are also likely to invest and buy property on these islands. +2
    Because of the strong support for the project and the amount of media attention the project has received, it is likely that some people will contribute more out of ideological reasons rather than expecting a huge return on their investment. Those who are solely looking to maximize returns will likely look to other ICOs. +1
    The backers of the ICO and the team is strong and has extensive experience in the area of special economic zones, engineering, and seasteads. +3

Risks
    It remains somewhat unclear if the funds raised from the token sale will be used for the construction of an actual seastead, or if it will mainly go towards developing plans, blueprints, and research about the legal framework for “SeaZones.” The company should make it more clear that the funds raised will be spent to build a real-world seastead in French Polynesia. -2
    The white paper published on the Varyon website is just a draft and not a final version. Several important details are left out of the white paper, including information about the lock-up for the team’s tokens. -1
    The Seasteading Institute’s (separate from Blue Frontiers, which is issuing this token) past record in putting their ideas to life is questionable, although the team argues that as a think-tank, construction of real-world seasteads has never been their objective -1

Disposition
In conclusion, we admit that we feel excited about the possibility of building real-world seasteads, and we certainly hope that Blue Frontiers will succeed so that this becomes a reality one day.
The main question about this ICO is if the company will succeed in putting a real-world floating island on the sea off the coast of French Polynesia. There is really no way of knowing this with certainty, and since the long-term value of the Varyon token would entirely depend on this, it should be clear to everyone that this is a very risky investment.
However, you may choose to view this as more of an idealistic fundraising for a cause you believe in. If you are exited about the idea of floating islands and want to help make it a reality, then Varyon is by all means a great way to contribute! The team is strong and they are probably the most experienced people in the world working on seasteading projects for the time being.
Overall, we arrive at a score of 6 out of 10 for the Varyon ICO.

Proof: https://hacked.com/ico-analysis-varyon/

This is very good result.

Nicely summed up,and objectively i think.

Yes, I agree this is a very good assessment. The criticisms are legit as those are certainly risks for token holders.

I will clear up a few things though.

Peter Thiel only donated $500k toward the initial formation of the Seasteading Institute. That money was long gone before anyone who works for Blue Frontiers came on board. I believe the $1.7 million number might be a total from the 10 years the institute has been around.

We only put 2 names on the list of advisors from the blockchain team but there are at least a dozen of us participating, we just don't have as big names as people like Daniel Nagy and Robert Viglione. We had Ross Kenyon advising early on, he was in charge of marketing for Tezos which raised over $100 million. We had a conference call with Vitalik who chimed in on his suggestions for possible blockchain solutions on the seastead. We spoke with more experts in the industry than can be named and would have had this up and running back in August if it was a straight forward utility token. But once you start looking at this thing from a legal perspective, it gets complicated very quickly. The team did well to get their ducks in a row before doing the ICO. We actually started earlier than we wanted to but knew we needed to get this going.

Which is the reason the White Paper is still in draft form. I'm not sure how public knowledge this is but they should be bringing something up this week. We have been in the process of moving from being based in Singapore to a more crypto friendly country. The white paper cannot be in its final form until the team of lawyers in that country get through with it and make sure it complies with their laws.

The team lock up amounts are close to being determined. It is a bit complicated because the "team" consists of mostly staff while the founders are a very small percentage of that. Talk I have heard was there will be a large amount locked up for a year. You can see the smart contract already reserves a space for locked coins so it is definitely planned.

Of course the biggest factor is certainly whether or not Blue Frontiers will build a seastead and I definitely agree, this is the biggest question. The money raised during the ICO will certainly not go toward any research into SeaZones. That has already been well established and we submitted our legislative package to French Polynesia back in September with our requests for what we will need. There is no more money needed on that front. Money will definitely be going toward engineering. The initial designs are already pretty far along, that has been paid for as well. But the designs need to go through prototyping and get the final logistics set up for determining the path forward for getting these seasteads to the SeaZone (how much to build on site, whether to build off site then assemble on site, etc.).

As a seed investor who has been involved in seasteading for 10 years I made sure to meet up with the team to look them in the eyes to see if they had the conviction to actually build seasteads. That has also been my biggest frustration with seasteading for the past 10 years...seeing projects that went nowhere. After all of this time I believe that this is right team to get this done. I have been nothing but impressed by all of the very smart people involved in this project.

To ensure that they do actually get these things built I retired back in November and moved to Tahiti. I am living with one of the founders, Marc Collins (along with a few other housemates) and have been kept up to date on everything as we move forward. I plan on going out to the various sites on my own dime, surveying the sites as much as I can on my own to contribute what I can to this project. I even got SCUBA certified a few months ago and bought some underwater equipment so I can do what I can to assist in mapping out the location underwater while also buying a drone to do some aerial shots. I should be heading out next month to get started on checking a few of the sites.

This is going to happen. It's beyond the point where it will be just science fiction or fantasy. We are shovel ready and once that SeaZone legislation passes we'll be on the ground within days getting things started. Even with the money raised already we could probably get to the point where we just pay for each platform with pre-sales (worst case scenario, if funding dries up...but it seems to be picking up lately). It is no longer about "I hope it happens"...it's happening people. Start preparing.

My Wife is really impressed with this project and although we are very small investors, we still want to try to contribute to the project even though we also realize that this is not one of those coin flipping 10 x type ICOS. Anyone investing in this project needs to be passionate about Seasteading and also about the whole concept of variation in governance and Fintech in general. If the Seastead is built, the firs tone that is, this could be the next 100 x project. If you have an eth or two aside, put it in as a long term hold and hope for the best. I myself would love this project to succeed and willing to put aside what I an afford to be an early bird in this project and one day be able to visit the live Seastead.  :)

That might be true,but without that crypto will never go to the mainstream.

Maybe Varyon can show us that there is a different way ,thats what im most excited about :)

God review overall, it mentions failed attempts, but I don't see that as something negative, but positive.It show that team is dedicated and finding new ways and solution changes the outcome in future and times and people change.I see this as a project that will change how we see a lot of things.

Great to see this kind of posts from people that are so deep into the project.Brings more optimism to people who are still not sure if the project has a chance-I personally don't have any doubts, gut feeling :D What people have most trouble with is understanding that Varyon is not another token/coin trying to find it's place in crypto game, Varyon is a project that is trying to change the crypto game.

It makes sense to keep Varyon as only option of payment to keep it strong to ensure protection of future development. So ZenCash is actually more important for the seastead and different aspects that will need to be developed on it, like governance as you mentioned and possible some other areas, then to Varyon which is basicly not connected in any way to ZenCash?

The point is to avoid governments and taxation as it is simply not fair, todays system.It can be done and still be a mainstream. Varyon will show you how, you'll see :D There are better way of doing things and governing money and community then the way countries are doing it.Mark my words :D