Same to me, there must be more options for shipping, Fedex is ways to expensive !!! I will not pay a minimum of 175USD for shipping, moreover there is VAT on shipping which means 210USD in total for shipping...
At this shipping price, you won't have many EU customers...
I have just been whining about EU always geting the backseat. Its kind of discrimination. I know GPUHoarder has nothing to do with it but its still bad. 215+ would cost me 500$ at least if I order to EU. To expensive, will have to pass sadly. I was ready to order 2 of them. |
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New coins will keep being introduced that are practical for CPU and GPU mining, even if only for the short term. A agree that ASICs are not a great investment, unless you are Bitmain. But with ETH going to PoS soon, GPUs will be less profitable next year.
I'm hedging my bets on FPGAs for the long term. They can run at a fraction of the power demands of typical GPUs, and has as fast as ASICs with the proper algorithm.
Yes ETH going PoS is greater danger then any ASIC of FPGA simply because of the number of GPUs on it. Unless half of those then simply sell their rigs. In that case its not so bad at all. I also see FPGA as the future, but until they are mass produced affordable and can be operated by the average Joe, not so much. By the time ETH goes POS, all of those GPUs mining it will be obsolete anyway. If ETH disappeared tomorrow, the 570s, 580s, 470s, 480s would have nowhere to go. Maybe cryptonight algos. Most GPUs are already obsolete (for mining.) Just look in the market place and see all the cards with 4GB or less sellers have to practically give away. Used 580s with 8GB memory aren't moving at $235! The market will be flooded with new 8GB 580s in a few weeks when the next generation of GPUs are announced. A 1080ti will be under $600. I think Nvidia is bound to introduce an affordable FPGA with a built-in bios designed specifically for mining within a year. If PoS doesn't kill Ethereum for GPUs that surly will. But yes, cryptonight will be the next refuge for GPU miners. You simply are guessing. Time will tell. My R9 290x still does the same numbers on most algo as the RX 580. But yea the power consumption is a problem. But saying its obsolete is stretching it. Check the forums and count how many times GPU mining died already. And as you saw the profits from GPU mining this year are the same as last year. How is that possible if GPU mining died at least 10 times in the last year already  New GPU cards may blow ASICs and FPGA out of the water for all we know (not likely though). So only older cards will be then less efficient. But if you are still profitable then you can still mine. |
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New coins will keep being introduced that are practical for CPU and GPU mining, even if only for the short term. A agree that ASICs are not a great investment, unless you are Bitmain. But with ETH going to PoS soon, GPUs will be less profitable next year.
I'm hedging my bets on FPGAs for the long term. They can run at a fraction of the power demands of typical GPUs, and has as fast as ASICs with the proper algorithm.
Yes ETH going PoS is greater danger then any ASIC of FPGA simply because of the number of GPUs on it. Unless half of those then simply sell their rigs. In that case its not so bad at all. I also see FPGA as the future, but until they are mass produced affordable and can be operated by the average Joe, not so much. By the time ETH goes POS, all of those GPUs mining it will be obsolete anyway. If ETH disappeared tomorrow, the 570s, 580s, 470s, 480s would have nowhere to go. Maybe cryptonight algos. Really, then why I am making better profit on Lyra2z coins then on ETH? Also the new miner for Lyra2rev2 is great for AMD. |
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Thanks for the read. I find the examples case in point to show how quickly the profitability of ASICs goes down. I have never mined with ASIC, but according to the article, if you purchase new ASIC units, you have to be really fast (among the first buyers). The major part of your profit will be generated in the first couple of months. With time, the profitability is diminished, and within one year it practically goes to zero. With GPUs, you always have to choice to switch to another altcoin, so GPUs are definitely a better choice for small miners. Now, it was also interesting to read about the new player in the mining field, the FPGA. They are like ASIC, but with flexibility of GPUs. Could be the future of mining. The fact about ASICs are well know, but people ignore them and its good to see examples with actuall numbers posted. Makes you think why anyone buys that shit. Yes FPGAs are maybe the future, but there is so much variables. First we need to see them mass adopted and that could take up to 3 years. And second new GPUs are comming out. People don't realize that this arhitecture we have today is at least 3 years old!!! So new GPU might be so much more powerfull that FPGA won't be profitable anymore in terms of ROI. This is crypto for you. Always on the bleeding edge |
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New coins will keep being introduced that are practical for CPU and GPU mining, even if only for the short term. A agree that ASICs are not a great investment, unless you are Bitmain. But with ETH going to PoS soon, GPUs will be less profitable next year.
I'm hedging my bets on FPGAs for the long term. They can run at a fraction of the power demands of typical GPUs, and has as fast as ASICs with the proper algorithm.
Yes ETH going PoS is greater danger then any ASIC of FPGA simply because of the number of GPUs on it. Unless half of those then simply sell their rigs. In that case its not so bad at all. I also see FPGA as the future, but until they are mass produced affordable and can be operated by the average Joe, not so much. |
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until and unless implementation of new algos like progpow which can be both asic and fpga resistant
there is little hope for gpu mining
Nah did you read what is proven in the article. The GPU profits this year are the same as they were last year. All else is FUD. The only exception was the Q4 2017 but that was obviously an anomally. And ProgPoW is being implemented into Bitcoin Interest as first coin with that algo. There are also other algos resistant to ASICs, like BitTube CN Heavy-Saber, which is also to a degree FPGA resistant. The developer of the algo (Imperdin) is also an FPGA bitstream developer and knows his stuff. |
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Still ASICS are ruining mining and profits for most but a few big players.
Yes, but the only one geting any profit out of that are the manufacturers like Bitmain. While stupid people are buying door stoppers. Open your eyes people and stop buying what is clearly unprofitable. |
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[email]https://1stminingrig.com/asic-vs-gpu-mining-profitability-in-bear-markets/[/email]
are you typo to add "[url]" or intentionally add "[email]"? It was a typo, sorry. Fixed it. |
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Any idea what is the power consumption of AMD RX580 mining with tdxminer on lyra2z algo? More than Nvidia GTX 1080Ti or better?
I think they wont release the windows version?
8x rx580 cc1210 mc1000 cv900 gives 27kh/s and takes 950W, you can probably go lower with power consumption. yours is better. 106W / card. is it easy to adjust the core clock and mem clocks on linux ? i never installed linux for mining. Its around 100W per RX 580. If you use HiveOS its easy to control all the OC and voltage settings. With Ubuntu not so much. |
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Drugače pa glede Cypto situacije je tako da se zna zgoditi dolgo obdobje mrtvega trga in nizkih cen kar bi jaz pozdravil, da se počisti vsa nesnaga ki je tam zunaj. 99% projektov je čisti nateg in nimajo kaj za pokazat. Vse se poskusi tlačiti na blockchain kar je tudi svojevrstna neumnost. MN hype, blockchain hype, skratka en sam hype in nič za pokazat.
Eden redkih projektov ki ima res kaj za pokazat in bo pomojem na dolgi rok veliko vreden je TUBE (bit.tube). Imajo profi ekipo in dejanski produkt, CEO je pa človek ki ima več podjetij in bi lahko že bil v pokoju. Zato ni bilo ICO-ja, premina itd...ker on osebno sponzorira projekt in ga zanima večinoma tehnologija. Ven so od marca naredili so pa več kot ostali v par letih. Vsak petek imajo update platforme brez pardona. Skratka če bo kdo uspel bodo oni.
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Blah, blah, blah... MANO! Blah, blah, blah... MASTERNODE! Blah, blah, blah...
Razsežnosti faila so tako velike, da ne vem kje bi začel: - Modeli se trudijo narest super duper masternode sistem. Manjka samo dejanska uporabna vrednost MANO token-a. - Primerjava z DASH je zelo zgovorna. Gre se za enega večjih scamov (takoj za Ripplom), za nepoučene. - Masternode na en klik? Ja, ker jih res rabimo 162.000 (njihov cilj, vir: https://manocoin.org/). Poanta bi morala biti, da ga je težko/drago naresti. Ne, da ga lahko postavi vsak, ki ima 5 minut časa in 5$. Ja, je 1000 MANO garancije za node. In smo spet pri centralizaciji masternode-ov, ki jih ustvarjalci naredijo in zastavijo z pre-mine coini... Ker je 50% blok nagrade za masternode, si dejansko zagotovijo, da bodo svoj 3% pre-mine avtomagično napihnili na 20-30%. - Pljuvajo čez GPU minerje, uporabljajo pa Lyra2z POW algoritem. To se rudari z vijolicami, a? TL;DR: Masternode sistem je dober samo za prve vlagatelje, ki si brez stroškov napihnejo svoj stash. Da ga lahko komu prodajo, pa rabijo čredo ovc, ki jim prodajo investicijsko priložnost stoletja. Na klik  Verjemi vse to vem. Moral sem pač nekam prilepit ker nimamo svoje ANN sekcije, se opravičujem za spam drugače. Sicer tega drugače ne počnem ampak za MANO je bil translation bounty 250 MANO, ko sem prevedel je bil pa eden vreden 10$. Mislim da je bilo vredno |
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If power is not an issue id say Vega 64 cards are the best, they draw alot of power but they put out alot of hashes on Cryptonight-heavy atleast. Otherwise it would be 1080TI, but with equihash getting raped by ASICs i would not go that route.
Vegas at current prices seem the best cards on the market currently. And RX 580 8GB. |
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You can get a new RX 580 for 300$ for sure. So where did you get 500$ for used one?
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MANO
They actually are rolling out a product that will have big demand. The price is very stable or growing and ROI is currenlty very good.
GIN is also good but I think to late to invest in bacause ROI is already very low.
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I can confirm 20 to 30% less than estimate from any calculator.
So diff increased but calcs do not catch up with new baseline I guess. This hurts. Bad. On the otherhand it looks like Lyra2 is likely to be at least as profitable as ETH even if the calcs are %30 off. Where do you confirm this. I get the exact same hasrate on the pool side as on the miner site. Its the coin calculator sites that are off. That typical. |
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For all those that have the problem with wallet crashing at start. Put this in the batch file (inside same wallet folder): @echo off
set QMLSCENE_DEVICE=softwarecontext
start /b bittube-wallet-gui.exe
It starts in low graphics mode. The problem is with opengl. The wallet is a monero based wallet. Also if you are having trouble, please go to TUBE Discord. You will get help there very quickly. This thread is not checked by devs very often. Any reason the wallet suddenly wants me to restore my wallet instead of reading the old one after an update? is this legit? If you had pre 2.0 wallet then you need to restore it from seed. Because the old wallet worked on the old pre-fork chain. You address and everything else stays the same. Just restore from seed and let it sync in the new latest wallet. Your funds are safe. |
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For all those that have the problem with wallet crashing at start. Put this in the batch file (inside same wallet folder): @echo off
set QMLSCENE_DEVICE=softwarecontext
start /b bittube-wallet-gui.exe
It starts in low graphics mode. The problem is with opengl. The wallet is a monero based wallet. Also if you are having trouble, please go to TUBE Discord. You will get help there very quickly. This thread is not checked by devs very often. |
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The project should not pay a fee! Binance should support this project from there view on crypto! No Ico no crazy investment schemes no Fee!
BINANACE WILL NEVER EVEN CONISDER THIS COIN!! STUPID MINING STATERGY!! HIDING MAXIMUM SUPPLY !!! PRICE KEEP DOING EVERY DAY CUZ MINERS DUMPING THIER EASY MINED COINS DEV HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO !! JUST TALKS AND HOPES I SAID PRICE WILL GO DOWN TO 1000 and it DID!!! ! 1 BILLION MAXIMUM SUPPLY , the PRICE WILL KEEP GOING DOWN!!!! I hope you don't get a heart attack lol. Man you are ridiculous. Do you even read the crap you write? |
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What about Fury X (Fiji) ?
I have 6 cards, they are showing in rocm-smi, fan setup is working.
But in tdxminer mines only 1 card (main pci slot) Asus z270-p. I tried all (pci gen's) in BIOS motherboard but nothing.
alredy i have modified grub file on size 9
how about speed for Fury? Thanks 3.7-4 Hm how do you run it on fury? My R9 290x failes to initialize. I thought only RX series is supported. bios mod, but work only 1-2 card on z270 tuf mk2 Hm interesting. What kind of mod did you use. I can't see how a bios mod would help. Can you be a little more specific please? |
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