Fury and AJ can still happen even if they both lose. Might make it easier to make if there's no belts on the line and Tyson loses his zero, though there's lots of fights to be made between the four including AJ/Uysk trilogy or the Fury/Ngannou rematch which Ngannou has been vocal he wants next.


Yeah, they'll surely have to step on the gas now the Ngannou/AJ presser is over. As for tickets it's in Saudi so it wont sell out as most are just given away to Saudis looking to fill up seats. Not many people seem to travel all the way to Saudi for the fights and it's usually 90% Saudis and a load of invited celebs.


Usyk probably wouldn't get a spectacular KO but he could wear Fury down like he did to Dubois. I think it's either Usyk on points or Tyson KO. Tyson will probably play dirty with lots of leaning and go for some low blows, especially if Usyk is getting the better of him.

The press conference was pretty lacklustre and uneventful. They didn't even announce any undercard fighters but they announced them after for some reason:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2ILhu8LhKL/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=fb22a48f-c247-424c-8bad-39e9a7860023
https://www.instagram.com/stories/turkialalshik/3280952149862882476/

Zhilei Zhang v Joseph Parker
    Rey Vargas vs Nick Ball
    Mark Chamberlain vs Gavin Gwynne
    Justis Huni vs Opponent TBC
    Ziyad Almaayouf vs Opponent TBC
    Roman Fury vs Opponent TBC
    Jack McGann vs Opponent TBC

Zhang/Parker is the only one I'm really interested in. I would have said Zhang blitzes Parker but Joseph did very well against Wilder but I'd back Zhang to beat him anyway. The winner of that should get a title shot, but they announced during the press conference that they're wanting to make AJ/Fury next but both fighters probably need to win, or at the very least AJ needs to make it past Ngannou.




I think he's going to be far more dangerous in this fight. The pressure of his first fight is off his shoulders and he knows what he can and can't do now. He's shown he can go the distance with the current heavyweight champion and on paper Tyson should be a tougher fight than AJ. Ngannou said he wasn't using full power against Fury either as he was worried about gassing out early. It's up to you whether you believe him or not but he didn't seem to be swinging as wildly as he usually does in the UFC so now he knows he can go the full 10 rounds I think we'll probably see a lot more power this time.

If he wasn't fit or ready then injury is the usual excuse even if it's just to postpone the fight to give him some extra time to train, but it looks like the promo is going to start now so we'll see. The lack of promo and activity from all parties involved was starting to make people suspicious.


An Ngannou KO wouldn't surprise me at all, but I'm going with what I said about the Fury fight: either Francis KO or AJ on points. The press conference for the AJ/Ngannou fight is going live in London in a few minutes. Watch it on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oES2Ke6bi80

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/other-sport/boxing/what-time-anthony-joshua-v-31882307

Press conference is going live in London soon at 5pm GMT. Watch it on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oES2Ke6bi80

Looks like Francis was on a film set the other day so I guess we're getting another Hollywood style trailer like we did for the Fury fight:

https://twitter.com/francis_ngannou/status/1746618828518535542
https://www.instagram.com/stories/francisngannou/3280277891973999596/

They'll be on at different times though. The UFC fights are normally early Sunday morning in the UK and the Saudi boxing will probably be at a reasonable time of 8PM GMT.


As linked above Turki Alalshikh posted it on his insta and both Tyson and Usyk shared it to their stories. Not sure why they haven't posted the poster to their main pages yet but I'm sure it's coming. They really do need to ramp up the promo but maybe they've been finalising the undercard to make some big fights to grab headlines. It should be a feast of fights combined with the AJ/Nagannou fight but they're going to be competing for the big names which Eddie has promised for the AJ/Ngannou fight, and if there's going to be any of the fighters from the last AJ fight they'll probably have to skip the Fury/Usyk card as they'll need the extra month for training no doubt. Opetaia is rumoured to be on the Usyk fight which could happen since he took no damage in his last fight: https://www.boxingscene.com/jai-opetaia-land-on-feb-17-fury-usyk-undercard-train-with-fury-ahead-championship-defense--180644



I dunno. It's pretty close for excitement but I think the undisputed has to take precedence but they really need to start hyping it up. Personally I think the Fury/Usyk fight could be boring but someone's O has to go so there's jeopardy there. Hopefully there's a bit of spice in the fight rather than just Usyk dodging everything Fury throws at him.

Well it looks like they're finally doing some promo at least as they've finally unveiled the promo poster for the "Ring of Fire" fight on their socials:



https://www.instagram.com/p/C2FBgZrt1GY/

Still no undercard and I suspect the press conference for the AJ/Ngannou fight is going to overshadow everything else, which is supposed to be today but I've not heard anything about it so far which is weird so not sure if it's still happening today or not.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15314262/

I'm not sure if they mentioned Bitcoin directly (I might have missed it) but in the new David Ayer "The Beekeeper" movie starring Jason Statham they mention cryptocurrencies a few times along with one mention of NFTs and blockchains.

https://www.polygon.com/24035803/beekeeper-david-ayer-interview-jason-statham


It was basically The Equalizer but with Jason Statham doing a Bruce Willis and going after e-scammers.


They might have done a deal with Craig on this for his life story or for his input on it but that doesn't mean other people can't make one about him. If someone wrote a book about him then anyone could buy the rights to that. People have made films based on articles before and the Andrew O'Hagan one was pretty good titled The Satoshi Affair: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v38/n13/andrew-o-hagan/the-satoshi-affair

He also released a book called The Secret Life: Three True Stories of the Digital Age but it was only part about Craig and featured two other works: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jun/11/secret-life-three-true-stories-andrew-ohagan-julian-assange-review

According to that article it seems they were trying to get Andrew to write an autobiography on Craig but it probably soured/backfired. Similarly, the same thing happened to Julian Assange but that ended up being released as an "unauthorized" biography instead.

Personally I just hope he gets arrested soon so there's a nail in the coffin on the story. Maybe we should try write a crowd-sourced script and then try get it crowdfunded. As I said before, I think the whole Craig debacle would make a great thriller, especially the bit where he gets raided by the ATO and flees Australia. Give a read/listen to the Satoshi affair article and the relevant episodes on the Dr Bitcoin podcast and you'll see what I mean.

This was a bit of a lazy excuse from Fury in my opinion. There's plenty of UFC fights for them to watch and given Francis usually just stays on his feet and boxes they should have know what to expect, though Francis did surprise everyone with how much he looked like a proper boxer. If a casual was watching that fight and had no idea who either were if you asked them who was the proper boxer or current heavyweight champ I'm sure most would have picked Francis.


As much as I love Francis and thought he deserved a draw at least, it is ridiculous them ranking him in the top ten after just one fight and a fight that he lost on paper. Sure, rank him after five fights or something but not one. I believe they have a panel of judges that rank opponents but the WBC is notoriously dodgy and they ranked him just for their cut of his fights when they sanction them. Lot's of people call them We Be Corrupt haha. The head of the WBC said this as his justification:


https://talksport.com/sport/1621594/wbc-president-francis-ngannou-ranking-tyson-fury-fight/

Which I guess is probably true but you have to prove that in the ring.

Mauricio Sulaiman also went into the ratings criteria they use in this podcast at the 7:43 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wptfSZ-mWs

I guess if you take into considertation his UFC status that that at least gives him a springboard. It's not like he's some random guy from the street, but at the end of the day it's just about the sanctioning fees for the WBC.

He requested a few things, but not all just for himself but the betterment of all UFC fighters. There's a really good article that lays out what happened during his contact dipsute with the UFC and what he got from the PFL https://www.espn.co.uk/mma/story/_/id/37702902/why-francis-ngannou-left-ufc-signed-pfl-contract-deal


Francis seemed to me to be be very reasonable and open to further negotiations but he really needed to be allowed to fight outside the UFC in boxing. Why would Francis sign anything otherwise when he knows he can make more money in one boxing fight than his entire UFC career. Francis stuck to his guns and I'm glad it paid off for him.


Technically, no. You just have to be a top 15 ranked opponent to challenge for a belt and Ngannou is currently ranked 10th by the WBC so theoretically he could challenge for the title, which is crazy considering he's above Hrgovic, Joyce and Dubois. The WBC could choose not to sanction it or make Fury fight another mandatory though. I'm sure people would complain if they gave Ngannou a title shot so early but I think if he can get few wins under his belt then there's no reason why not. AJ is currently ranked at number two so if Francis beats AJ then that says a lot and if Francis can beat the number two then some may argue that makes him the number one contender. The WBC will likely make AJ the mandatory for Fury if he wins against Ngannou but it will be interesting if AJ loses. There's also the chance that the belts get vacated after the Fury/Usyk fight so they don't have to defend them against their chosen mandatories.

I wouldn't listen to unsubstantiated rumours unless they're from a reliable source, but I am starting to question whether this fight is still going to happen and I wouldn't be surprised if Fury comes out with an "injury" excuse or something. I'm not sure what more motivation he would need than the ridiculous amounts Saudi are throwing at him. The fight is a little over a month away now and there's been zero press for it. It's almost like it isn't even happening. Neither fighter or their respective promoters have been posting about it or mentioning it in interviews and there's still no undercard fighters announced and some reputable boxing podcasts have also started to question whether it's still happening. If they don't announce a press conference or start promoting it on social media soon what are they waiting for? Something just doesn't feel right with a fight of this magnitude. The press conference for the AJ/ Ngannou fight is on Monday and the promoters have promised some huge fight announcements for the undercard so that fight is at risk of overshadowing this one, especially if it's another stacked card and with Wilder, Zhang and Parker all rumoured to be on it it easily could.

According to Sport Business Journal the purses are £31 million for Joshua and £16 million for Ngannou.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-12943435/Anthony-Joshua-bank-jaw-dropping-career-payday-Saudi-fight-Francis-Ngannou-former-UFC-star-receive-DOUBLE-controversial-loss-Tyson-Fury.html


Doesn't matter if the UFC is involved with their boxing fights as well. Dana could have had his cake and eaten it too if he just allowed Francis to box. Ngannou was pretty open that he would be happy to do both and give Dana/UFC a cut as a cross promotion. If they can do it for Connor then they can surely do it for Francis too. Dana has shot himself in the foot letting Francis go. Ngannou was one of the biggest stars the UFC had but now he's the biggest PFL star and he hasn't even fought for them yet. Francis doing boxing alongside MMA just brings in more eyes from the boxing world and makes Francis an even bigger star that could transcend the sport. If Francis does well or even beats AJ then he's going to become one of the biggest combat athletes in the world if he isn't already. If he does beat AJ then he'll probably be fighting for belts very soon. The UFC has lost out on all that promo

They can't be sent. The coins might as well have just been tossed into a digital black hole. This transaction having anything to do with Craig doesn't make any sense at all. If Craig had any control over the genesis block or any of the very first addresses he would have just signed a message by now, but he can't for obvious reasons. It's like someone throwing money down a sinkhole that they don't own to try claim ownership. I have no idea why this happened but I can't see any way how this benefits Craig.

Doesn't matter what Calvin thinks just as long as there's a chance Craig can somehow get a hold of Satoshi's stash or bitcoin's IP someway. He probably knows by now that Craig isn't Satoshi but is still hoping he can con a court into 'officially' crowning him as Satoshi, which is unlikely but not impossible.

The press conference is going to held on Monday in London according to Eddie Hearn: https://www.tntsports.co.uk/boxing/anthony-joshua-and-francis-ngannou-set-for-saudi-arabia-showdown-eddie-hearn-confirms-it-s-a-done-de_sto9944467/story.shtml

Hopefully they announce some undercard fights then as well. Very strong rumours that Wilder is wanting to avenge his loss fighting against possibly Zhang. I don't think Wilder is done yet but that's not a good fight for him. Zhang is a juggernaut, though if Wilder does win it throws him back in the mix as Zhang is the mandatory challenger for Usyk, though a win or great performance may also get the AJ fight back on track.


It's not an exhibition and neither was the Fury fight. They're officially sanctioned by the WBC. There's just no belts on the line because Francis was unranked, though he is ranked now and will likely move up the ranks with a win over AJ.


Beefs can mean something especially when egos are involved. Dana has pretty much been embarrassed by Ngannou by not only getting these huge deals in both boxing and MMA with the PFL but almost nearly beating Fury. Dana has been pretty childish towards Francis saying things like he was scared to fight Jon Jones which is BS. Dana just tried to low-ball Francis and strong-arm him into an unfavourable contract and Francis had the balls to just walk away and make his own path.  All Dana had to do was to just allow Francis to box outside of his UFC contract and had he done that Ngannou would likely still be with the UFC. Dana has been pretty hypocritical as well saying the UFC don't do gimmick cross-over fights but then offers to make Fury vs Jon Jones. Make up your mind.

Be careful what you wish for. We probably won't get a biopic about the true Satoshi as nobody really knows much about him for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if Faketoshi tries to get a film made about himself. I saw there's a biography about him coming out later this year: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hero-Villain-Satoshi-Built-Bitcoin/dp/B0CM281JKM


That could certainly get optioned for a movie, though I'm hoping a movie about Craig's fradulence will come out before that. The Dr Bitcoin podcast also have their own book coming out this year called Faketoshi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngS6_EHFrf4

I've always thought the debacle with Craig when he left Australia as he was raided by the ATO would make qood film. It certainly read like a thriller.

I know Francis' promotion is called Gimmik Promotions but I think that's going a bit too far. I think the best thing right now for them would be to try do some one off fights with ex-UFC heavyweights or maybe even some mixed-rules fights against boxers. Francis pretty much stays on his feet anyway so it'll basically a boxing match but with MMA gloves. Wilder was in discussion to fight Francis in the PFL in a hybrid fight but I'm not sure if they can front him the money he wants but maybe Wilder will have to start taking paycuts now if he keeps losing.


Francis is just built different though and lets not forget he started out as a boxer and pretty much just boxes in MMA anyway. I think a bigger question people should be maybe asking is is Tyson Fury that good?


They've said 8 figures so it's 10 million+. I suspect it'll be somewhere between 20-50 million tops.

There's more at stake than a potential and hypothetical movie deal. There's not much money to be made in a biopic about satoshi. Even authors of hit books are lucky if they get a million or so advance for their work and they already have source material which has a fanbase. Craig doesn't have anything yet and anyone could write a book about this and then sell the rights to it. All craig could give is exclusive access or make it 'official' but you don't need his permission. Calvin is just hoping Craig can con the courts into giving him ownership of bitcoin and the fortune of the early lost coins along with patents on blockchain technology etc. I don't know why he hasn't given up yet but maybe he's in too deep now and might as well see it out till the end. Like most BSV-ers I doubt he actually still believes he is satoshi even if he did at the start, but just has a financial incentive now. I think most BSV-ers are just greedy fools who think this is their opportunity to invest in "bitcoin" at sub £100 prices so they continue the charade in the hope of getting rich.

Hyped. I'd heard there was strong rumours about this fight last week and glad the Saudi's have now made it happen. I honestly can't even predict this fight. If Ngannou can floor Fury he can surely do the same to AJ. Ngannou has said that he didn't go in 100% against Fury because he was worried he would gas out quickly and Fury would take advantage of that. Now he knows he can go 10 rounds with the current heavyweight champ I think this makes him much more dangerous. I think I'd put money on either a Francis KO or AJ on points.


Yes. He's signed a multi-fight deal with the PFL and also has equity in the company if I understand correctly. The trouble with the PFL is there's nobody really for him to fight. Name me one PFL heavyweight? They just don't have the roster yet though Francis has said he will fight MMA this year though maybe things will change if he does beat AJ, but I doubt he can just abandon his PFL contract. Either way he can surely do both and I don't see anyone troubling him much in the PFL.


I heard some rumours that Wilder might be fighting Zhang on the undercard which would be awesome. https://talksport.com/sport/1701854/deontay-wilder-zhilei-zhang-anthony-joshua-francis-ngannou-undercard/


Hopefully we get another stacked card like The Day of Reckoning one.

It's the biggest fight lined up for sure but I've not really seen much hype or promo for it in a while. Maybe the big Saudi Day of Reckoning fight took over for December. Have they got any press conferences lined up? You'd think they'll start to ramp up promo now since it's next month and the busy Christmas and new year period is now over. I don't think they've announced any undercard fights yet either. Hopefully the Saudi's didn't blow all their beans on last month's fight.

I'm pretty much bottom of the overall league table now because all those below me have pretty much stopped playing  .


I went for a draw and was one goal out. You can't trust United right now. Surely Ten Hag can't last much longer at this rate. It's going to be interesting following Villa now to see if they can pull a Leicester.

Had a draw for last night's game as well. I keep foolishly expecting Newcastle to bounce back.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30317302/


On Netflix now. Trailer: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UDqRvMmuUcU


If its not broke don't fix it. This thread seems fine to me but if you wanted to run an additional spreadsheet I don't see anything wrong with that but I certainly don't think it's necessary.