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101  Economy / Economics / Re: Where’s the Fire? Bitcoin and Major Cryptocurrencies Take Massive Beating on: November 19, 2018, 12:52:32 PM
Aren't we kinda used to this right now ? I mean at least shouldn't we get used to this already ?
I know I am not. It is still a big shock and a big blow whenever this happens. Bitcoin keeps staying the same price for a looooong time than in an hour it goes up 20% or it goes down 10% or whatever. It is really silly that we actually see the markets stagnant for a long time and started to think the prices would stay the same from now on and only move slightly.

I know I was dreaming of that world, where bitcoin still moves high or low but very little and only go up in price gradually over years instead of this insane movements. Volatility is the only reason why I am still afraid of keeping my bitcoins, I still do but everyday I consider selling them to fiat and be done with this.
102  Economy / Economics / Re: Regulations help stock market exchange, and it will in cryptocurrency! on: November 19, 2018, 12:20:57 PM
Regulations is good and it will bring sanity to the cryptocurrencies market.  Many people have been scam and huge amounts of money lose through icos and this happened because they is no regulatory authority watching over cryptocurrencies market and its investments.  Now should the right time for registration to come in into cryptocurrencies market.
A whole lot of sanity than anyone would imagine I must say!

Sanity when it comes to fraudulent activities, sanity when it comes to market manipulations and so many more. It is just a common thing, in a lawless place, there is practically no sin, but as long as people tend to know that committing a certain offense, there is a repercussion for it, we will get to see more level of trying to caution their selves before even doing anything at all.

The only thing I feel regulation might bring about is the limit of people with lower funds into this space, but time will tell more on that, nonetheless, there is nothing with an advantage without a disadvantage for some, but in extreme case here, there is actually a lot more advantage regulation will bring than not being regulated.
103  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Reason why crypto market bull run on: November 19, 2018, 11:05:04 AM
The cryptocurrency market is a whale market,  as soon as whale get enough cheap coin from the panics and other people who are moved by volatility of cryptocurrency market,  the red will disappear and real value of coin across board will emerge!
Because it is controlled up to a great extent by the whales, it is no doubt a whale market and they play the game that is profitable in their own interest so bull comes when it is in harmony with the profit flow of the whales as well.
There are even more reason for a crypto bull run now. I know there was amazing reasons why the market will go higher a lot higher just a week ago but now if we look at the prices and how everything is lower there is a bigger chance of that happenning. I think if we wait a bit more and this hash war thing going around in the bitcoin cash thing and when it is all said and done we will see the market going a lot higher.

It won't just stay here, it won't just go to what it was a week ago, it will break that, it will go more than that and reach to a point that won't be all time high but definitely a big improvement on what it used to be. Something along 9 thousand or 10 thousand for bitcoin for example and about 350-400 dollars for ethereum and stuff like that in general.
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Btc price....what's happening? on: November 19, 2018, 10:09:03 AM
Tokens Continue to Take a Hit: is SEC Preparing to Target Crypto Projects?

https://www.ccn.com/tokens-continue-to-take-a-hit-is-sec-preparing-to-target-crypto-projects/
I think there might be something more to this than just Craig and Jihan and roger fighting. I mean people were expecting some sort of bull run by now and instead we are going backwards instead of high. I think people did not expected anything like this at all but we are so scared of anything going wrong at this moment that people literally sold at cheaper prices because they believed the price would go even further down. We still don't know if it will go even further down.

I do not like it when other coins fall though, I mean I understand why bitcoin went lower because some people sold bitcoin but at least it should have made altcoins go higher, they will be valued higher compared to bitcoin since bitcoin lost value, but all of it lost value for some reason. People sold bitcoins, not ethereum, not ripple, not dash, but all of them lost value for no apparent reason at all.
105  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are Bitcoin Cash overlords selling their BTC stashes? on: November 19, 2018, 08:55:53 AM
This is not a secret, they even told this on their twitter, that is a public platform where they literally said they will keep on selling bitcoin to get some fiat currency to pay for this fight.

If they want to win they have to fight for it, both sides will spend millions of dollars into this war and one will eventually lose so as expected they will spend as much as they can possibly spend on this war in order to be the winner. If they lose, they both lose the war and all the money spent on it will go to waste as well. Why would anyone spend millions of dollars into something they eventually lose, so both sides think they have a deeper pocket and can continue spending bitcoin on this war longer than the other person.

Craig of course has a lot of bitcoin whereas abc dudes have a lot of hash power themselves and also of course a lot of bitcoins they mined which means both sides will take this as long as economically possible to win. The only losers will be us the small people that stand between this war.
106  Economy / Speculation / Re: The fourth quarter of 2018 not the brightest on: November 18, 2018, 06:38:30 PM
the fourth quarter of the year normally determines whether that year is good or bad for the crypto market. if you look at the last year 2017 the cryptocurrency market started booming in the early October while nothing good happened in the last October yet the market is crashing very badly in November. i guest this year is not the good one for bitcoin and the cryptocurrency in general.   
We can't always have sunshine and margaritas on the market every single year, sometimes you have a bad year, that happens in finance world all the time, we better get used to this kind of stuff time to time. In 2012 bitcoin went up, in 2013 too, in 2014 it dropped a lot, in 2015 it got up again, in 2016 it raised a bit and in 2017 we had the biggest bull run of bitcoin and in 2018 we had a bad run again.

It tells me we will definitely see a huge increase in price in 2020 with the halving if the calculations are similar. 2014 wasn't a bright year for bitcoin as well but we overcame that and now those prices look funny to us. In 2014 the price dropped from 1400 to 200, those prices are fraction of what the bitcoin price is right now. Lets hope that in 2020 we will look back on dropping from 6 thousand to 5 thousand as funny memory.
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What happened to the Crypto market? on: November 18, 2018, 06:07:12 PM
I see the current crypto market movement is very bad. The price of Bitcoin dropped dramatically. Altcoin also turns red.
The current crypto market may be bad for some, but in the real sense, it just calls for those who know what they are doing to be picking at a much lower price. For what it is worth, we sure know there is always an opportunity at every trend in the market. When it goes lower and people are beginning to even panic the more, this is the time you really want to be looking to buy. The target of the whales is to make people panic, and when they panic sell, they instigate FOMO again, and only the fools apparently, will just be busy dancing to their tunes, instead of taking advantage of them.

I think the market screwed by some huge players or whales, some are trying to manipulate the market so they can enter with a good entry on the upcoming bull run.
The huge players or whales are always trading the general emotion of the market. I believe a lot of people were actually looking for a possible bull run and in that way they were able to manipulate the market to push it down the more. That is always the thing, as long as you really do not care how the market goes, and even as a trader, as long as you have your plans, you really will not have much of a problem. The most important thing I see happening to the crypto market right now is just the chance to buy much more as it goes lower.
108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alts Dropping Gives YOU Opportunities on: November 18, 2018, 05:37:41 PM
I have been saying this for months. I know markets seem incredibly low right now but the point of discussion should not be how it dropped but how low it is. Yeah you can focus on the prices dropping, the market being bear and than feel sad about how it used to be great.

Moreover, that would only mean you will miss the fact that those same bear markets you are sad about gave you coins that is far cheaper than you initially intended. You got bitcoin at 20 thousand dollars ? Well, I am sorry to hear that but you thought it was a good idea to buy bitcoin at 20 thousand dollars so you must think it is perfect that bitcoin went do 5 thousand dollar levels since it is quarter the price you should be happy to see that and get even more this time. Same with alts, if you were happy to see ethereum over a thousand dollars than you must be crazy to think eth is now 180 or something and you should get a lot more.
109  Economy / Economics / Re: Markets See Massive Sell-Off, Bitcoin Dips Below $5,600 for the First Time 2018 on: November 18, 2018, 04:11:29 PM
This week, market cap value decrease more than $25billions and its more than 10% in just one day. I am believe there is panic in market and makes peoples selling their coin below $6000. Its sad to see most coin and token price drop but i do believe it will bounce back
Well, see it this way, this week the market decided to give chance for the smart people to see a chance to buy in at a much lower price and then the dumb people to pave way for them and come back later on to join FOMO which is what will most definitely happen anyway.

This is crypto market, things like this should be expected, but instead of panicking and worrying over something you cannot change, why not look for the opportunity that is lurked within the happenings and be patient enough not to worry at all. The last time I checked, there is actually nothing worry helps in achieving except to make silly mistakes or do nothing to help your situation.
110  Economy / Economics / Re: The operator of the largest bitcoin exchange in Germany acquired the Bank Tremel on: November 18, 2018, 03:21:29 PM
We were so used to hearing about the other way around, it is refreshing to see this side of it starting to happen.
Normally big corporations do invest into crypto companies and help them grow, in this instance it is just the other way around.

At least we now know that there is a bank in Germany that is highly pro-crypto, since the owners are basically crypto people themselves. It would be weird to follow this route, crypto used to run on one idea, it would be a currency to be used all around the world, one currency that would be used by all people without nations fiat in the way, than there was commodity aspect which still exists today a lot, people who want to buy crypto and than sell it and make profit.

Lately the crypto space became huge for corporations and companies and funding for projects. I hope the last one continues for a long time.
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN DROPS TO $5,600. HOLD OR SELL? on: November 18, 2018, 02:42:33 PM
Doesn't make sense if you have bought bitcoin higher than the current price and just simply dump it because you panic. Everything will be back to normal for sure, its just we have been affected by this Bitcoin Cash war as the moment and there are several reports that Bitcoin Cash holder are dumping their Bitcoin to prepare for the war and the hard work.

So if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't sell not even a satoshi as this point. I would rather not panic and just continue to hold.
Let’s even forget whatever war is going on right now with either bitcoincash or whatever when it comes to hash rate, the market has dropped in value, and so what ? We are talking about a market with great potential here and that is what counts, isn't it ?

Sometimes, I tend to wonder if people actually do have their priorities straightened out and rather than panicking, they are seeing the reasons to be buying in the more. Maybe I am just overestimating people anyway, because I feel for those who know that they have a lot to gain in the long run from this market, will not be wasting this opportunity at all, no matter how low the market gets.
112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: So what do you think about the Bitcoin Cash Fork?... BTCABC & BTCSV on: November 18, 2018, 12:38:51 PM
So whose going to win out?

Is there a future for either?

Is there so much disagreement within the communities that one or both of them will fork again at some point?

Will they fork themselves into oblivion?

Can a fork from bitcoin ever be successful?
I think they are both worthless and I think it is scary to think that btc.com had hash power so big they could potentially %51 attack bitcoin itself. We have seen a lot of crazy people and we have seen a lot of worthless technology lately.

First of all, if we look at the ABC dudes they had all the hash power in the world under their hands and they have managed to get all that into bitcoin cash to overpower SV people but that also shows how much power just one company can have and how close we are to destroying the bitcoin itself.

Now, looking at the SV side that crazy lunatic dude could look like he is worthless and insane but he is an insane person with a lot of bitcoins, I mean A LOT and he could totally destroy the market by selling all his coins which would still make him rich, just not as rich as he used to be but still insanely rich. Both sides are very dangerous for crypto.
113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ballon d'Or Winner on: November 17, 2018, 03:24:05 PM
Ronaldo definitely deserves the award this year. Not just because he played well, he always plays well but there are other stuff going into this award that should be considered.

First of all, Juventus wasn't a bad team but they are much better right now with Ronaldo in it and Ronaldo even at his age is playing marvelously and becoming the best player wherever he goes shows how talented and skilled he is. Secondly, Real Madrid is so horrible this year, as soon as they have sent Ronaldo away they started to play horribly, they have been missing Ronaldo like crazy because all of their problems would have been gone if he was still there.

Lastly, Messi is an amazing player, he is truly the best player in the world but he is playing in Barcelona and Barcelona just beat Madrid 5-1 without Messi, so we can see Barcelona is much better than Madrid when both Messi and Ronaldo is not involved, Messi is literally playing in the better team.

Hence, Ronaldo deserves it much more than other players because of the impact he has on his teams.
114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What happens to the other cryptocurrencies if the Bitcoin goes to $ 2,000? on: November 17, 2018, 02:21:26 PM
Normally back in the day when bitcoin went down the other coins went up, that wasn't really weird considering bitcoin dropping in value would only make altcoins look more valuable. Moreover in recent years they seem to be connected with each other, so when bitcoin goes down all other coins go down as well.

Biggest part of your question was answered on 14th of November when bitcoin went down a lot because of the big sell pressure put on it while the buyers were scarce and rare and volume was low. Which resulted with altcoins going down as well, they didn't stand their prices and the value dropped for them too. So coming back to your question if bitcoin goes to 2000 dollars than the price of all other altcoins will go low as well, just like how it happened last night. Same principles really.
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Btc price....what's happening? on: November 17, 2018, 12:09:46 PM
Tokens Continue to Take a Hit: is SEC Preparing to Target Crypto Projects?

https://www.ccn.com/tokens-continue-to-take-a-hit-is-sec-preparing-to-target-crypto-projects/
SEC is not doing anything, all I see right now is the whales trying to usher in more ground for the institutional investors to get in, by scaring away the weak hands since that is what they have always wanted. So in a way, it will only take those with balls and the long term focus to not get shaken by some of the things being done by these people. Whichever way, I only see this avenue as the market trying to give a good chance to at least manage to get to pick bitcoin at a much lower price.

Even though there has been a lot of anticipation for a bull run before the end of the year, nothing is still impossible. We just wait and see.
116  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin trading or other business what do you choose? on: November 17, 2018, 11:20:40 AM
In the current digital era, many people are starting to trading Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency because they think Bitcoin trading is profitable from other businesses. Some people again say that business is more profitable than Bitcoin trading.
A lot of people would rather go for a real business than Bitcoin, anyhow it is you will be sure to sell and make some money a day. Bitcoin trading is a risk, it’s volatile and you don’t know what will be the outcome, you can lose the money you have in it. But since there is possibility to combine these two jobs, so you can do just that and have Bitcoin trading as a part time job for making extra money
In most occasions, it actually depends on you and your knowledge. It is something you can get to combine the two when you know how to. Trading on its own is also a business as it classifies under the category of what a business means and in any form of business, if you have no proper understanding of it, then the possibility of failing is something you cannot hide from.

Still by comparing the two, you can at least still make some pretty good profit as well and knowing that most times, the condition of markets may not be favorable, so in a way, having multiple streams of income is not a bad idea at all.

You do not have to day trade before you trade, long term trading is even enough to easily combine with anything else.
117  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: THE NEXT MARKET MOVEMENT. UP OR DOWN? on: November 17, 2018, 10:28:16 AM
I still bullish for crypto in the long term, but to predict the crypto market in next a few month is hard. Hopefully in the beginning of december bull market will start and crypto community will make good profit. Alot of upcoming good news will trigger next bull market
To predict the crypto market at any point in time is always going to be hard, but one thing anyway for now, is basically the fact that we are going to likely be seeing the market either bounce from here or move downward the more. I know a lot of people may be worried with the ongoing development, most especially for those who have been holding since last year, but the truth is that for those who are smart enough, they really will not see a problem in the current market but an opportunity as far as I am concerned.

predictions about the markets by top crypto analysis all goofed thru out the year. None of them were able to give a perfect explanation of what the market seems like.
i still see Red days ahead till Mid 2019.
Maybe you have forgot the fact that no one can actually make any prediction in any market and the fact that you want to move to the Forex market will not change anything as there is a likelihood you may still end up experiencing the same fate anyway.


One thing I want you to understand is the fact that this is a market and for a market, you are most definitely not expecting anything and all you do is to anticipate the possibility of movement as traders, while having a risk management principle. However, judging from the fact that this is still a new market, bailing now will only be regrettable in the long run. Maybe you should ask those who did that in the past.
118  Economy / Speculation / Re: A Bullish, A Bearish, And A Moderate Forecast on: November 17, 2018, 09:35:20 AM
So, the price of Bitcoin has been holding pretty steady lately. On the one side, the Hayes’ model predicts a price of $12,629.15, almost double the current price! What's your opinion about this?
I have seen a lot of predictions and I’m just confused, but despite all that I still have hope in Bitcoin, but not much in altcoins. I saw a prediction on Smartereum yesterday that the price of Bitcoin will hit $40,000 and 90%of altcoins will fall. Then another prediction claims that cryptocurrency could triple any moment from now.
Maybe you should understand from all these that you guys should stop worrying yourself about some predictions because they actually have nothing to give you than bullshit. If you are in the market, be in the market for good, and know the reason why you are in it.

As long as you know there is a great potential in the long run, you will really not be worrying yourself about some predictions that we all know no one can basically know what the future holds. However, the market wants to be now, one thing is certain, with mainstream adoption which there is a great possibility of experiencing; the market will most definitely grow more than this eventually.
119  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Do you think that crypto exchanges are dead? on: November 16, 2018, 04:52:02 PM
Based on author's on this thread.
1. Lack of funds
2. The market has already been saturated
3. No original ideas

Saying those list in such visible perspective of yours is quite interesting and obvious too, but it's does not mean that this market is already dead. If the crypto is dead, this bitcointalk.org will also dead too. As long as this site is active, the crypto market is also active and prove it's flexibility and strong survivability at some way.
As long as cryptocurrency space is very much active, there is pretty no reason for the crypto exchanges to even be dying.
The space is big enough, the space is growing every single day, more users are coming in, institutional traders and investors are trying to pick the little they can now, and in a way we are being exposed gradually to mainstream adoption, and from this angle where I stand, I feel we do not even have enough exchanges to cover for how big this space is going to get yet.

Also, considering how much the likes of binance are making from trading fees as well as withdrawal and deposits daily, then obviously, it does not look like something that is dead to me.
120  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's happening with Bitcoin losing more than 10 per cent of its value? on: November 16, 2018, 03:33:04 PM
According to The Independent, the price of bitcoin has hit its lowest point in more than a year after a long period of stability.
What's the cause behind the current dip? I am puzzled.
I am not too sure if you ever checked the news but there is a war going on between two sides on bitcoin cash hard fork. One side has bitmain guys with Jihan Wu and Roger Ver and they are fighting to keep bitcoin cash at their hands and not give it up to anyone else.

On the other side, there is Craig Wright who is trying to use all his money into getting bitcoin cash to the path he believes Satoshi would have wanted. Now clearly both sides are crazy but the more crazier looking one is Craig right now with saying stuff like if other team wins he will spend all his money into destroying their coin and wouldn't care if that caused bitcoin to go down to one thousand dollars.

Of course, the markets reacted by not reacting, the volume is incredibly low and everything seems lost so far.
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