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1021  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will under 5000 within this month do you think so on: March 24, 2018, 04:45:52 PM
I think it can be recovered but it's been a long time since now the bitcoin price is lower and it is harder now.

I know there is so much pressure that the crypto market and bitcoin suffer after all. But I do not think the bitcoin will drop at $ 5000. Bitcoin may slip like the past 2013,2014 but I think it will return with sparkle after June and even burst in November.
Yeah, the pressure has been pretty huge recently and I am very surprised and even find it interesting that bitcoin is really holding up strong despite all this. Everything that happens now is all under probability and no one can actually give any substantial stuff to say that bitcoin may go lower than the previous low in this year or it will remain the way it is or even start a bull rally, but whatever it is, time is all that will give us the final answer.
1022  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bad Psychology of Traders on: March 24, 2018, 03:21:45 PM
actually a quick turn is the one in the search for professional traders they move from one type of coin / asset to the other they always find opportunities, when prices go up or down.
Apparently, finding opportunities is one thing that makes a trader different from a self-proclaimed trader without any skill or knowledge about trading. Once you know what you are doing anyway, you will always get confident over time and you will get to make good decisions from the knowledge you have gained without just gambling anything in the market.

Many people who get emotional today always have this notion of buying low and selling high without knowing a single way to analyze their position before even getting in and when things turn awry, they start shaking and sweating.
1023  Economy / Economics / Re: I want to invest more of what I don't have (money) on: March 24, 2018, 01:34:28 PM
Dude, those coins you mentioned are probably some of the riskiest investments one could make right now--be very careful with what you're doing. 

If you don't have the cash to invest, my advice is to just take a breather for now.  I would not trade anything on margin or otherwise borrow money to invest in ICOs, altcoins, or even bitcoin at this point.  You could easily lose everything, and then you're looking at an extended vacation in the mental health system for an indeterminate amount of time and no return flight guaranteed.  Get what I'm saying?

This foolishness happened in the late 90s and early in 2000, when everyone was trying to get rich from internet & biotech stocks.  It was madness, and the continuing bull market fed the madness.  People mortgaged their houses, quit their jobs to day trade, and all sorts of other irrational, risky things.  Don't go there.  That's my advice.
So true, a lot of people have taken this path in the past and they ended up living to regret it. We may think the world of crypto-currency is going to be doing great in the long run, but it is not something one should ever consider taking a loan for because that is terribly absurd.

No one knows what tomorrow holds and even those who are investing, are doing so with what they can afford or look over in case something happens, let alone, for someone to take a loan to invest? Nah way!
1024  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do you want high price of bitcoin after all? on: March 23, 2018, 06:14:21 PM
of course everyone in sales want to profit, no one wants to lose. rather than being selfish but it is a reality, and everyone wants it.
That has always been the mentality of every individual. I am sure if bitcoin has been stable and does not have much growth as it is now, then a lot would not have even been here and those who only see the main usefulness of bitcoin as a currency that can help them get freedom from the government financial shackles will end up being in this space but we cannot deny that this has also helped with a lot of growth for bitcoin, so one way or the other it still helped for development as people still got greedy.
1025  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin will rise up again ? on: March 23, 2018, 05:44:48 PM
I'm still wondering why bitcoin suddenly dropped over 11kUSD. i thought that it will hit 30k usd  this year, but how come it's suddenly dropped? i dont think so if its manipulated by whales or maybe the supply and demand of bitcoin is one of the problem . or maybe uts a chance given to us to buy so we can havea good profits. can someone explain?

yes of course bitcoin prices will soon rise again do not be afraid because the price is not always below and not only that the condition of total supply bitcoin that is currently too thinning to make the price will also rise more expensive because bitcoin has a very high demand.
We are already getting to see some positive news and with that I am sure gradually the market will start stepping back as we break out from the current downtrend completely. I so much believe in bitcoin really giving us a great future ahead knowing that this is the future for most of us the believers and nothing is absolutely going to change that in anyway. We are gradually going to start hitting the growth phase and that would mean a lot.

We are still in the last month of the first quarter and we have 3 more to go and if anyone is not optimistic about that, then that is their cup of tea. We still have a lot of room for development and growth and I believe that this will make things a lot better for the future of bitcoin and its value. $30,000 is not too much to attain before the end of the year, and even if we do not, we still have long years ahead of us.
1026  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin survive? on: March 23, 2018, 05:05:58 PM
Bitcoin will always survive any bad news, FUD, government ban and the host of others. And that is how it has been surviving since the creation of bitcoin in 2009 and so shall it be no doubt.
Yeah, it has and always will and I totally believe that we will be experiencing some good move in the market very soon. If we can at least even hover past this major resistances and settle in at $10000, that would be a very good one for bitcoin, but I want to believe that we may have to see how things end up turning out from here. Nothing is wrong with bitcoin as far as I am concerned; we are just taking our time.
1027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is struggling? on: March 22, 2018, 10:57:11 AM
It tells us completely nothing. The market is only slowly recovering from a massive dip the last couple of days. Don't forget that ETH price increased rather quickly a couple of months ago.

ETH should not be as low as it is!
Why? Because of what? It is a market and if people panic and dump, that is what happens but does that mean it cannot recover or the price will remain as low as you can imagine? No! Every market is bound to fluctuate and I do not understand the value you already fixed in your mind for Ethereum right now with what you have said, but whatever is going on now apparently changes nothing for the future.

Price oscillation of ethereum tells us nothing and there is absolutely nothing to be worried about. The market is volatile and it is always bound to fluctuate most of the time, so I do not see what the whole panic is all about. Ethereum may be struggling in your own eyes and you may think bitcoin is going lower than you would have expected, but at least they are all not where they used to be a year ago.
1028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: No listed on coinmarketcap on: March 22, 2018, 10:22:40 AM
I noticed a lots of coin on exchange site which are not listed on coinmarketcap. Should I buy those coin/token?

Some if them are good but i think you should check there platform carefully maybe some of them also newly finish in there ico thats reason why they still not yet in coinmarketcap.
Doing this obviously would save anyone including the OP so many traumas in the future. It is not always about coinmarketcap, it is usually about what you are holding and how far it can go which anyone can only know by trying to dig the team, understand how ready they are to work, the availability of a product and how sound it is in the real world.

It may have a low trade volume which is why it has not appeared on coinmarketcap, but either way, as long as you can check those ones I have mentioned out, which should be the decision making points.
1029  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If gambling is illegal in your country, would you still gamble? on: March 21, 2018, 01:16:28 PM
In some place even gambling is illegal they still find their way to play it. There are some group of people who are organizing this thing so people can still gamble even its illegal. Personally, I will not participate on any illegal things because it can ruin my reputation and also my family.
The thing is that people will always find a way to still do what they love even if it is illegal and still find a way to stay outside the government's radar. It is always too risky though considering the penalties when caught and considering the possibilities of being ratted out by someone in the long run, but in that case, they always end up having their group and they prefer sticking to those who are fully registered.

I would if I'm think stupidly but I don't think that way in real life. It's just like illegal drug, if the authority sees you using it then expect that you'll be imprisoned.
Obviously, if you go against the rule, the law will not be there to have mercy on you but you will have to serve your punishment. I do not know if it is addiction that would make someone to go against the laws of the country or they are just too bold to dare the government of their country. I really do not like looking at my back every now and then after doing something, if it is that case, then what is the point when I do not have rest of mind.
1030  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling: Culture on: March 21, 2018, 12:33:14 PM
Previously though not illegal, gambling was severely frowned upon the society in my country but right now, People really don't care and almost everyone is currently gambling from kids even to the old people because people have realized that money is more important than culture.

This does not hold true in my country. People give more value to culture than money here and you can easily notice the difference if you have seen both cases. I am not judging anyone with different approach but this has a lot of benefits in my opinion for people in my country. Current youth might be having different opinion and we can see them becoming more materialistic in future.
Same here in my country. There is a look the society gives you when you are involved in things that would probably jeopardize the life of you and family if you are not very careful and that makes them to give you that 'oh, he is a gambler' kind of look.
Everyone should be entitled to whatever they do anyway, but I feel some culture will not permit gambling being a culture in the society considering the number of people in the past that have done such and did not go well with them.
1031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does positive thinking affect your edge in gambling on: March 21, 2018, 11:00:50 AM
I just thought that it was just a complement. Not just positive thinking in gambling, positive thinking., it's just as a push or strengthening spirit on betting, because everything is very based on luck.
However basically indeed it's important.
Basically, it is not important since everything till balls down on luck anyway. Before you even start, it is best you switch your thought to negative and know that you may lose everything and that should at least set you on track not to expect so much. Positive thinking on the other hand will fine tune your emotions and make you to end up doing more than yourself. If everyone is busy having positive thinking, casinos both offline and online should have gone bankrupt by now.
1032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Your favorite stablecoin?? on: March 21, 2018, 09:22:38 AM
I'm not a fan of these fixed conversion rate coin/token like Tether. The same with LTU_btc, I always prefer my own local fiat currency if I want a "stable" status for my investments (PHP).
Also, AFAIK there's no local exchanger for them that's why it could take a longer process for real life usage. (Ex. bitcoin -> Tether -> if I need php / instead of bitcoin -> php )

Nothing turns back with stable coins. Crypto's nature is pumps and dumps. There were the real profit is seen. If the crypto is stable, then i would prefer my own local fiats then a stable coin. And if all crypto coins are going to have a stable value, I don't think everyday we would have a new ICOs coming in and more investors falling in crypto market. So fluctuation in price is the main source of crypto's growth.
Simple as that! The main reason why we are here is because we want to invest in a coin with a product and solution and apparently a stable coin which apparently makes it centralized and controlled defeats that objective and since that is defeated, what is then the point? I would just rather stick with fiat like you said, since I know I will have my government to deal with if anything happens, than holding a centralized digital currency.

If I want stable I will move to fiat. What is the point holding a stable coin? It total shows one thing if it is stable, which the fact that it is centralized is, controlled and have nothing to offer than to close the normal fiat. So, why would I even trust those who have decided to launch a stable coin when I can just at least stick to the centralized fiat without worrying? I even find it hard to want to leave my holdings during a trade in USDT considering all the things that have been said.
1033  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Target Market of Bitcoin on: March 21, 2018, 08:38:37 AM
I personally believe that the target market of Bitcoin are the millenials. It is because they are the ones who doesn't resist change and advancement. They will most likely adapt Bitcoin especially if it is helping them.
The millennial obviously have an upper advantage anyway, with the fact that they reached their adulthood in the jet age. The old cargos are just living borrowed time presently and they are still so much in the past while just living in the present, since it is always going to be hard for them to easily adapt to the strong change in technology.

Additionally the target market is somehow still restricted to those who have access to the internet easily, since without that, you are in total darkness from the digital world.
1034  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is this a good time to start buying bitcoin or should i wait? on: March 20, 2018, 01:56:25 PM
i dont think that you should buy BTC now. Maybe its price will reduce to 6500$ and start recovering. You should wait in next month.
If he cannot trade and he wants to go long, he may wait a little bit for  a retest actually and if he can still lay his hands on buying at $8500, it would not be a bad idea, because there may actually be a big bounce at $6000 and he may end up not seeing his buy order hit.

Whichever way, I believe we are in the buying season as long as people are afraid to buy, you should be doing the opposite and when greed is entering the market and everyone is buying with the whole thing looking crazy, then you may want to consider the opposite as a trader. Holders usually do not mind anyway.
1035  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Straight HODL vs Trading on: March 20, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
Holding or Trading as the case may be is neither good nor bad. It is all depend on case per case basis. Sometimes it is not advice able to hold and it may not be bad sometimes to cut losses by selling either.
But until now a long time holder makes lot of money than a long time trader,so hold is the best option when compare it with the trading because trading needs lot of effort and time but in holding we just need to buy bitcoin and keep it for some years to make money and the profits will be more than trading in my knowledge.But holding will not suit for all the coins so we need to pick right coins if we want to hold.
I think it's very easy to advise, but it's quite difficult to choose a really good project or a coin. At least this is the only and difficult task for an investor or a trader.
A lot of people always end up sentimental or drawing conclusions when they should obviously do some research to know the real thing before commenting. Trading or holding both depends on the individual level of knowledge. Where trading requires a lot of knowledge, holding does not require much unless to understand what you are investing in. However, from what supermine said, that is absolutely untrue. A trader will always make more in the long run than a holder, as you keep making more as a trader from the fluctuations, but like I said, it is not for everyone.
1036  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what you should do crisis time in trading ? on: March 20, 2018, 11:04:20 AM
There are a lot of good info about money management like dont put more than you can afford to loose etc. But I feel like learning from ones own experience is very important.
To create some rules and just follow and execute them might be a solution. And/or keeping trading log.
Asides from that even being part of risk management, common sense should always tell people that, but humans are bound to always get greedy as they want to acquire so much for themselves in a very short while than they can imagine and anyone doing that is bound to panic and fail big time. For anyone that is trading though, the best thing during crisis is to chill.

Moreover, if anyone is knowledgeable enough, they will not classify it as crisis but an opportunity, so I will re-twist that to; wait and go back to the books to learn.
1037  Economy / Speculation / Re: Short term predictions for BTC price? on: March 20, 2018, 10:05:58 AM
Hi guys , does anyone have any good short term predictions for Bitcoin? or should we move to other cryptocurrencies?
for me i prefer to stay on bitcoin rather than jumping to another alt when there's a minor drop . 'cause it's just a normal correction of price and after it will pump back again , so you must stay on it and put some patience   'cause for sure you will jump back if you moved to other alt then you noticed the growth rate is increasing again. So much better to stay on it and keep holding don't mind those fud's. Or else your money will end up into fees if you continue jumping . Lol
Jumping into another alt right now is even more like jumping from frying pan into fire as they are all beaten as well and this is a wide correction going on in the market and it affects every other cryptocurrencies with bitcoin being on the leading front. All the above, it does not make sense switching into alts in this case and would rather keep holding bitcoin or go into fiat until the whole thing dies down and there is huge light ahead of us to eliminate all these FUDs.
1038  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Mt. Gox dude won't let Bitcoin prices rise on: March 20, 2018, 09:25:00 AM
Well, it is not so much about him selling the remaining 160k Mt. Gox coins he has in his wallet as about the fear that many, if not all, buyers of crypto now have because of him. It doesn't even matter if the price crash as of recent was actually due to his massive sell-off, though the evidence seems to be overwhelming. In fact, he may not even sell them at all, not a single satoshi, though this is unlikely given the circumstances, but people will still think that one day he goes nuts about selling these coins at any price, and then prices will be halved again extremely fast. Therefore, Bitcoin won't rise until these coins are gone for good, burned or otherwise disposed of, and people become confident and positive again.

I think it's confirmed that he sold big amounts at the exact times that we saw these sharp red candles, and they tracked the amounts coming from MtGox addresses... Mr Kobayashi is a direct attack on Bitcoin. Trace Mayer or someone with influence on Kraken should tell him to get the fuck out immediately, they need to go OTC, this cannot be tolerated.

if they cannot get their shit together soon, someone else will. A guy with that many coins with only one mission: to crush the market, is a target. He needs to go OTC and he needs go OTC now.

Even if he isn't dumping anymore, everyone is paranoid about until the japanese government makes an official statement about what they are going to do.
MtGox generally right from the onset has never brought anything but negativity into the market so I am not surprised. I guess the whole thing is more like, if we cannot win, we can delay its growth, and otherwise he would not have done what he did by selling making use of an exchange when he could have easily done that over the counter like you said.

I wish they can just allow him to sell whatever is left, I would not mind buying it from him at $500, as long as he is willing to accept and I am sure no trader wants to give him that opportunity of selling at a high price as it is.
1039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Alts with ETH or BTC on: March 19, 2018, 06:00:33 PM
I believe bitcoin fluctuates less than Eth, so if you're just looking for a coin to trade with alts, it should be BTC. But, I guess you could take a chance with Eth too.

However I find that when Eth fluctuates wildly, the alt eth prices fluctuate wildly too. So there's really no benefit in trying to game the system thinking you can get a better eth price just because you're buying/selling in eth.
You can always take a chance with every pair but that will be applicable to someone who knows how to trade and I am sure the OP may not be in that shoe. But why stress myself anyway since I eventually still trade ETH against BTC and BTC being the legacy coin, which virtually 100% of other altcoins are traded with, then I do not see why U should choose ETH pair over BTC pair.

As long as OP is buying the alts to hold, what differs? However, if he is a trader and he is trying to trade a specific pair based on the reaction to it and whether it is acting bullish on that pair or bearish, then he can decide to go ahead with any of them, at the end though, it is all about the decision and what he was holding to buy those pairs but it does not really change anything. For instance, an altcoin may be acting bullish on Ethereum but not on bitcoin, so it all depends on skills of smart trade.
1040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A new way to earn cryptocurrency for free? on: March 19, 2018, 05:29:24 PM
there is no free way to earn crypto coins.
you need to work to earn crypto. bounty or airdrop works are "work"
Crowdfunding is an investment. Don't mix apples and oranges.
He is not mixing apple and oranges and he is not talking about crowdfunding here but a platform crowdholding.com, so you should have at least look well yourself before throwing darts on someone who is even more correct than you are. Crowdholding is a platform that allows you to share your candid opinion about projects and you get some rewards in return for it, but not as easy as it looks as you have to work for it as well, just a little Google and reviews online will help.
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