Cloudbet account last logged in on April 2nd which is exactly 3 months ago. I forgot the name of the head but we used to have good communication between us. Hopefully they will restart their Bitcointalk networking.
As I said before, maybe if someone can contact them again and try to talk about campaign bitcointalk, they might consider again running campaign here on Bitcointalk. This is the first casino I ever tried using bitcoins and it's also because of bitcointalk the time they running campaign here. Right now, they're making some moves through email and asking users to answer surveys in exchange of chance to win 50€. Even if they are not thinking of running a campaign, I think it's important to be active since they have an ANN thread here. Problems can arise that impact their reputation, and they need to be addressed by a representative. What I've observed about their past campaigns is that they weren't long-term. I'm not sure if I participated before, but I know them because there were only a few sportsbooks before, like during or before the bull run in 2017. Someone should contact them about the issue and maybe ask if they want to run a campaign again. It should be a reputable campaign manager who reaches out to them. |
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Nah, our friend is our friend. We should be happy if they are successful in gambling, unless we have that jealousy within us, which is not good. Why not just ask for some tips on how to win? If you still can't win, consider investing money in your friend. This problem can be easily fixed, but it requires greater understanding and love. Jealousy inside us will only harm us in the future. Thinking we're better and should be the ones winning can make us unhappy when others are happy.
Life is short. Let's cut this kind of negativity and not believe in words like "constantly losing." That's not gambling anymore. In gambling, we win and lose, but we often have more losses than wins. If we constantly lose, we're just wasting money, and we should stop gambling before it bankrupts us.
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Op I will only advise you to use casinos that are more popular in the forum so that if there is any issue, you can reach to the representative here and the issue can be solved amicably. \
This is sportsbook may not be very popular but they are active here, in fact you can visit their profile to verify. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2660816last active : recently, Last reply : : June 18, 2024 So I guess you can still get some answer from them but it might not be instant compared to other sportsbook here where they have a very active representative that could reply within 24 hours on any concerns. |
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If this was a regulated company in the UK I'd have quite the case for negligence. Again, doesn't take away from my issues, but how they're operating towards vulnerable addicts is disgusting.
Unfortunately they are not regulated AFAIK. They advertised that they are a "decentralized sports-betting platform", from the word decentralized, we can already assume they aren't. Sorry I like to correct this because they actually have license as seen in https://sportbet.one/about-usWe hold the license of Mwali in the Comoros Union Seeing the term responsible gambling doesn't make someone gamble responsible. When someone has a relapse then they beg for help from the company, they should step in and take action, but they don't because they're profiting.
I honestly don't know how anyone can think this is moral at all.
Now that we see they aren't stepping up right away, this should be a warning for us to be more responsible and not rely on a casino's decisions regarding our gambling habits. Your concern might also help those struggling with gambling addiction, but I believe only a few people have a similar problem. Most addicted gamblers wouldn't ask a casino for help to self-exclude their account but rather, they continue gambling until they lose all their money in their sportsbook account. |
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Also, one of the reasons why Cloudbet isn't really active in this forum anymore is because of the rising accusations against them in recent years.
They keep doing this inactivity even before when they have less accusations. I remember reading that they want to use the casino support as way to communicate with all the issue instead here the forum. But we all know that they just want to shut down all the potential counter cases against them especially on issue that they already marked as solved. It’s just dumb for them to leave their promotion here while they are considered as OG here while new casino promotes here like Duelbits, Rollbit and many more that already surpassed them in terms of popularity. Maybe they are already satisfied with their current status. They are an OG, but they weren't very popular before since, if I remember correctly, sports betting wasn't as popular in the forum at the time. Slowly, typical casinos have upgraded their business by adding a sportsbook to their platforms, making the competition tougher. Active promotions are really important to keep competing with the new ones. Sports betting is already popular in the forum by that time. In fact Cloudbet is one of the leading Sportsbook provider since they offer live bets on a match which is still not offered by other bookie. Cloudbet is the first crypto Sportsbook that I use together with Directbet.eu. Maybe popular, but not as popular as now. Gamblers are learning sports betting now, unlike before when there were only a limited number of sportsbooks, which is why there were fewer users compared to now. I also played with Cloudbet before, but based on my experience, their withdrawal process is not instant and you have to wait for hours before it's processed. Another sportsbook I've used in the past was Nitrogensports. I think they were more popular than Cloudbet, but it's sad their reputation was ruined. Directbet.eu. this one is very popular too as it's a decentralized sportsbook, however, they close their business probably due to regulatory problem. For Cloudbet, I think as long as their reputation is good (no red tag), they'll be alright. Hopefully, one day they'll realize the value of coming back to the forum again. This is probably right. It’s just sad to see OG casino that is not interested anymore on forum interaction. But let's see the development of the case against them. If it doesn't warrant a scam accusation, then it will not concern them. |
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Also, one of the reasons why Cloudbet isn't really active in this forum anymore is because of the rising accusations against them in recent years.
They keep doing this inactivity even before when they have less accusations. I remember reading that they want to use the casino support as way to communicate with all the issue instead here the forum. But we all know that they just want to shut down all the potential counter cases against them especially on issue that they already marked as solved. It’s just dumb for them to leave their promotion here while they are considered as OG here while new casino promotes here like Duelbits, Rollbit and many more that already surpassed them in terms of popularity. Maybe they are already satisfied with their current status. They are an OG, but they weren't very popular before since, if I remember correctly, sports betting wasn't as popular in the forum at the time. Slowly, typical casinos have upgraded their business by adding a sportsbook to their platforms, making the competition tougher. Active promotions are really important to keep competing with the new ones. For Cloudbet, I think as long as their reputation is good (no red tag), they'll be alright. Hopefully, one day they'll realize the value of coming back to the forum again. |
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Have you ever read the discussion at least? Yes, and I'm trying to understand your statement as clearly as possibe, I hope I get your point right. It's cleary the (IP) connection is getting blocked by the provider, using (a VPN) it's the suggestion from VIP and the post I was quoted to user who asking some suggestion. Using same country it's the solution for your connection IP for user who are getting blocked just because provider not the casino term & condition. So you will have the same data you are gonna to input (in case they're requested those) with IP connection you are used. It's to avoided, they're questioned you "Why the connection IP with your ID it's different"
I just don't get this. ""Why the connection IP with your ID it's different"...I thought game providers already understood that some ISP providers use dynamic IPs for their users, so the IP will change from time to time. The most important thing is that a gambler is still accessing it from the same country. If that country is allowed to access the game, then there shouldn't be a problem. I think it's easier for the game provider to sort all the users based on the country they access from, rather than sorting all the ISPs, which could be millions depending on the number of users of a certain casino. but abandoning the casino because we are not getting a free spin is not my thing.
I'm not mentioning abandoning the casino, I'm referring the free spin. Meaning you are abandoned the bonus, not the casino. This one.
Regarding, game restricted you can do 2 things.
1. Requested to the support or casino to change your freespin to other provider
2. Just abandoned them.
Number 2 it's because number 1 getting rejected. It's better to leave it, rather than facing some problem in the futue.
Sorry I'm might have misunderstood it, I thought when you stated "it's better to leave it" means leaving as in get out of the casino. |
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Perhaps, If your country it's not a restricted country. Why not just looking (VPN) in the same country you are from. I mean, even you are using VPN you still can follow the rules of their term & condition because you using (VPN) country with the same country you are stay. So, you can follow the verification without any problem due the (IP & ID) it's from same country. Sure, it's not gonna make any issue at all. The problem with (VPN) it's always, play from restriction country or the VPN (IP) you are using it's not the same with data you are provided to them. For me, I don't see the necessity to use a VPN when gambling if the VPN I'll subscribe to is still from the same country as mine. As long as I can gamble without a KYC, that's already a way to keep my privacy. And yes, my IP could be exposed to the provider, but I'll make sure I'm not going to use a static IP from the provider, or just maybe use a data connection that has dynamic IPs.
Regarding, game restricted you can do 2 things.
1. Requested to the support or casino to change your freespin to other provider
2. Just abandoned them.
Number 2 it's because number 1 getting rejected. It's better to leave it, rather than facing some problem in the futue.
That highlighted word is worth a try, but abandoning the casino because we are not getting a free spin is not my thing. I'm interested in real action coming from my real bankroll. These bonuses are just part of being loyal to the casino, so with or without them, I'm just fine. |
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Anyone from cloudbet answer my post?? I need a reply.. thanks
You can only wait until their account gets active and see your post, otherwise, you can't expect a reply. This is their account ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154563), maybe you can try to send them a PM and wait, or the easier way is to contact their support but if you are not getting your expectation on their reply and you feel you got scammed then you are free to create a scam accusation which might alarm them and your concern will be address. Cloudbet representative last activity is last April so we can guess that it will take long that his concern will be taken care of or get notice if he just wait their reply here. I think he already receive a good recommendation on his first thread created so what he can do know is to follow those suggestion provided and try to contact them thru their support or any means that they can keep in touch to the representative of this casino. If there's no good explanation given or if Cloudbet will keep ignoring him despite of lots of messages sent to them regarding on this issue so I guess your right creating a scam accusation might be needed so that their representative will came out and give their explanation about this case. Yes, for now that's the best way, but as per the statement in the other thread, it seemed like he doesn't trust the support anymore as he was promised the bonuses but it suddenly disappeared when he was inactive for a year, I guess. So now, he probably just wants to hear an explanation of why it happened, and I think the community also needs to know since this could concern not only him but all the players of Cloutbet who are loyally gambling, hoping they'll increase their loyalty points and enjoy them in the future. |
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Anyone from cloudbet answer my post?? I need a reply.. thanks
You can only wait until their account gets active and see your post, otherwise, you can't expect a reply. This is their account ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154563), maybe you can try to send them a PM and wait, or the easier way is to contact their support but if you are not getting your expectation on their reply and you feel you got scammed then you are free to create a scam accusation which might alarm them and your concern will be address. |
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If you had seen this change in their TOS in March, then you would have seen this:
Bonuses
8.1. Cloudbet reserves the right to cancel any bonus or bonus program (including, but not limited to deposit bonuses, free bets, free spins, reload bonuses, and the welcome bonus program) with immediate effect at its sole discretion...
source: https://www.cloudbet.com/pt/help/termsI think @OP this would answer your question, and it looks like you won't be able to claim the bonus that was previously promised to you. Their support might have changed, as they are just employees, or the support might have made a mistake when they replied. However, if we really use a solid basis, we need to check the TOS, and unfortunately, the rules don't favor your concern. I hope they'll see this thread and post their side here because what you brought up could affect their reputation in a bad way. Loyalty bonuses, in my opinion, are very valuable to us gamblers as they encourage us to remain loyal, with the expectation that we will be rewarded in the long run. |
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Dubois is not interim champion, he has been awarded the IBF title after Usyk vacated it therefore Dubois is a heavyweight champion and Joshua is not.
I'm surprised but this is good since we will be seeing a championship fight again in the heavyweight division. At first look, this site still list Oleksandr Usyk as the undisputed champion on the five weight class. Heavyweight
WBA: Oleksandr Usyk
WBC: Oleksandr Usyk
IBF: Oleksandr Usyk
WBO: Oleksandr Usyk
The Ring: Oleksandr Usyk But with this news and as you've stated, this is already confirmed. Oleksandr Usyk vacates IBF title in ‘present’ to Dubois and JoshuaI know probably most of us here will vote for Joshua to win but he should be careful since Dubious is a KO artist with 20 KO's in 21 fights that he won. Also, as we can see on the betting odds of the fight, it's pretty obvious that AJ is the heavy favorite. Anthony Joshua -500
Daniel Dubois +350 https://www.givemesport.com/anthony-joshua-vs-daniel-dubois-fight-odds/ |
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Or perhaps, he picked on the team mostly on the favourite one ~xd I also have the same thought like you ~LOL.
If I'm not wrong, the competition is predict the scores, so it's really harder than just picking the favorite team. Luck really matters here. I have not participated in the competition. However, even if it's tough to predict, the point is that there are still winners in this competition. You need to learn and be lucky if you want to win at least a significant amount of money, if not the top prize. From the top to number 12, I guess there will be a lot of changes day to day as everyone is very competitive to be at the top for the bigger prize. This is a great competition. I was just watching the ranking, and I'm a bit envious because I discovered it late. But I'm hoping that at least one of us here will turn out to be the big winner.
@roycilik, you can do it! You made it to the top before, and I'm sure you can come back again.
Last week matches in group phase is really unpredictable, I'm sure that most people are wrong because the favorite team can't be the underdog team, not to mention there are many match ends in draw. Yeah roycilik should win in this competition, he need to make BK8 bankrupt.  I love to see him win too, as there don't seem to be any other members here who have joined the competition, or at least those who have a good ranking. However, there's no way the prize could bankrupt BK8, as they have also hosted competitions for other countries as well, which means they have a big budget for this particular competition. That's how liquid they are. |
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Yeah I am surprised there are not more casinos which support the lightning network.
The Lightning Network (LN) was already introduced before and until now I can't see significant progress. In my opinion, I think even if casinos support the LN it would still depend on the gamblers themselves. I mean, as a gambler, personally, I don't want to approach gambling in a complicated way, and I think LN is just complicated for some as they can just easily use altcoins in order to save on fees and transactions are also almost instant for some altcoins. But I can't blame OP, everyone has their own choice and I think the users above had already suggested some reputable casinos that supports LN. |
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If the benefits include "to support the gambling industry," that's like tossing themselves by the profit they are making. It should be to benefit the country where they are operating, and I guess paying the right taxes would already justify their purpose.
It's called entertainment for a reason, so socialization can be achieved, but this is only for physical casinos. Since more and more gamblers are now shifting to online gambling, I think this aspect could be eliminated. My main point here is that for the gambling industry to grow, it needs to have a positive impact on the community as a whole, because it cannot grow while hurting other sectors.
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This is not a scam, but more like a complain and sharing information with the others, so there's no need any action... Moreover, there are also not any serious accusations against the sportsbook, so currently it’s fine to play there.
Nitrobetting.eu has a relation with Nitrogen Sports which received 4 negative feedback. They also have complaints in reddit. Over $20K frozen/locked up: AVOID NITROBETTING.EU AT ALL COSTS
But that was on Nitrogensports, which was popular before. I haven't followed this casino, but I believe they changed their name or are related in some way. But let's go back to the main issue: yes, they didn't scam, as it's their own promotion and they have the right to stop or change it. However, as I've mentioned, if it disappoints gamblers, it would result in a significant hit to their reputation. |
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It may just be an alibi, but still, they have the right to stop whatever services or freebies they offer immediately if they feel that they can no longer handle the burden.
Yes, they can, but that would reflect poorly on their reputation as a casino. If a promotion has already started, I think they should let it finish, especially if someone has already invested just to participate in that promotion. I'm not well aware of the kind of promotions they are running as I haven't visited that site for a while now, but in general, it doesn't look good if it is suddenly stopped. For example, consider the current Euro promotion of a certain sportsbook. They have a huge prize pool, and users have participated because of that. They deposited the minimum amount, which, in my opinion, is significant for typical gamblers just to qualify. If they suddenly stop it, how would the gamblers feel who are aiming to win the jackpot? |
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we can see that there are casinos that are proven to be scams that force them to continue running campaigns on forums in the past. Maybe gamblers will still have an assessment of the casino's reputation.
Those casinos that continue to operate despite receiving negative tags may be forced to stop eventually, as that will only result in their money running dry. We are in a forum where running a business is measured by its reputation, so if a casino has a bad reputation, what's the purpose of marketing if they are not getting a positive result? People here are not naive and they understand how the forum works and can see if a certain casino with an ANN thread can be trusted or not. Casinos come here to build a positive reputation first. As they grow a positive reputation, they will slowly become popular and attract more gamblers to their platform. However, the moment they ruin their reputation, it becomes hard to fix, and gamblers will easily leave, so that's most likely the end of their life here. They are trying to build their casino despite of what negative reputation they earn. Also we don't see any of those casino who have negative reputation survive even if they have a running signature campaign since people here knows what to do and usually ignore those type of casino that's why most of them decide to if not shutting down their operation they decide to go away here because they can't get something anymore. One prime example is 1xbit and we don't see them doing any promotion nor have a good exposure anywhere. The discussions of people against them helps a lot that's why that casino fell down. That's why there are so many reputable casino which still running for long time here. Since they know the value of this forum and they can get a lot of revenues if they just remain running in good condition and always satisfy their community including those people following them. 1xBit is smart because they use a lot of platforms. When they didn't succeed on Bitcointalk, they turned to social media marketing where users could not see their reputation. However, if users dig deeper, they might be redirected to our forum and see the true reputation of that casino. Despite that, I think they are still surviving with lots of users, as I see some vloggers in our country still promoting them. Another example is not a casino but an exchange called Yobit. They were one of the first to run a massive signature campaign, but once many complaints popped up against them, they received negative feedback and weren't able to continue their campaign. The community united not to support them. The same goes for 1xBit as whoever wears their signature will get painted with red. |
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we can see that there are casinos that are proven to be scams that force them to continue running campaigns on forums in the past. Maybe gamblers will still have an assessment of the casino's reputation.
Those casinos that continue to operate despite receiving negative tags may be forced to stop eventually, as that will only result in their money running dry. We are in a forum where running a business is measured by its reputation, so if a casino has a bad reputation, what's the purpose of marketing if they are not getting a positive result? People here are not naive and they understand how the forum works and can see if a certain casino with an ANN thread can be trusted or not. Casinos come here to build a positive reputation first. As they grow a positive reputation, they will slowly become popular and attract more gamblers to their platform. However, the moment they ruin their reputation, it becomes hard to fix, and gamblers will easily leave, so that's most likely the end of their life here. |
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Since it looks like not everyone who posted has voted in the poll, I will just manually count the votes based on the posts and update now.
So here's the result:
Bitcointalk - 15 votes
BTCGosu - 9 votes
It's very clear that if we want to see real feedback, we have to visit Bitcointalk. However, we can also check BTCGosu, as they have the second-highest votes here. Hopefully, we can use this as a basis when choosing which casino to use for our gambling needs. (This thread is locked now)
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