Hi i have a question about "bots".
This "bots" on exchanges are people, group or it is a program?
Because they are very fast, with lot of times less than a second needed to put order lower/higher than me!
So how is working exactly?
Bots are normal part of markets. Those are program wrote by people which make trading more easy. They for example set some threshold for their offerts so whenever you give higher offer, bot will automatically beat your offer for 1 sat. A question I have always done to myself, but this bots in that way, and especially when there are two or more bots which fight each others, they do not waste a lot of money in fees? I think too they are boring, but maybe sometimes you can use the bots of others, even to your advantage, with a bit of luck.  |
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so the coins should be at least 4 days old?
Maybe this is the reason. I have coins in my wallet for a long time, so when I unlock wallet, it start to staking immediately. I assume somebody who know it for sure will answer soon with details. Cof Cof ... QED AFAIK, right now specification are: Min age: 2 Hours Max age: 1 Day Minted Blocks Maturity: 60 TxConfirm : Min 3 block Taking a practical example, after receiving the coins by someone else, they are confirmed and become expendable after minimum three confirmations. After 2 hours, they become mature and ready for the staking, and their weight (and so the probability to stake) grows for another 24 hours. So passed the first two hours, _when_ the wallet is on line, it have mature coin, it is synchronized, and is "unlocked" or "unlocked for staking only", it will show a green arrow, and it could generate a new block stake, but only if you are very very lucky, and on line. Usually it takes a lot more, depends on the global network weight, depends on the POS difficulty, depends on the value of the pile of coins, and as said before depends on luck. And if luck has a fixed limit of two hours, there is no limit to bad luck, there may be pile of coins that have not produced stakes for several weeks. Obviously there are extreme cases, normally expect a few days. In any case, after having produced one stake block, the pile of coins becomes unavailable for 60 blocks, while waiting to be confirmed. After that, it again becomes expendable, and after two hours, become mature to generate another stake. Each pile of coins that you have received in wallet has a story in itself, and can produce stake independently of the other pile. It is not uncommon to have two or more pile that can go in the stake, while others is still in the process of waiting for the confirmation. Bye |
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Because the server will probably go off line, here is the rich unofficial list, updated a few hours ago.
Some impressive figures, the first 5 addresses together hold more than 25% of all the money of the NAV,
Top addresses are just cold wallets of Markets. First one is Bittrex so those are coins of all of us :p This was an objection which had already been made, but it is not entirely so, this is only true in some cases. Have you noticed the column POS I put? It indicates how many blocks POS were generated from that address. Yesterday, for confirmation, I asked to the three Exchange if their cold or on-line wallets are enabled to POS stake, and their answer was no, and about the cold wallet, the response of Bittrex was the most peremptory: If the wallet has a staking=0 command we use that in the config. If it does not we
comment the staking code out and recompile. It is not possible to stake cold wallet
storage as that means it would not be cold wallet storage.
Anyone claiming to stake your coins and keep them in cold storage is misleading you.
So if we see an address which generates a large number of blocks POS or POW, then the only conclusion we can draw is that it is not an Exchange, and with a good approximation we can say:   And if we exclude dubious cases with POS at 0, the first five whales hold approximately 18% of total NAV, and our MobyDick "sfdzo3" alone exceeds 9%. Hey !!! We reached 58M Nav, and later today we will exceed one million blocks. Who prepares the party? Bye |
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FYI server is moved to new hardware and running smooth again  rock on navajo! This is intolerable, a real shame. A pass so fast that you leave us no time to complain a little. What the heck, you should be ashamed of all this speed. Obviously, congratulations and thank you for what you did. |
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Our server ingesting.moved to a new hardware this evening. There will be a downtime while we do so!
Because the server will probably go off line, here is the rich unofficial list, updated a few hours ago. Some impressive figures, the first 5 addresses together hold more than 25% of all the money of the NAV, and the first 20 have cumulatively more than 50%, so they have more of the rest of the holders. Deep Watch Report from block 1 to block 996832 at 2015-03-03 16:00:10 UTC
DWR Rank Address total Last (UTC) POS
DWR 1 sfdzo3...uMNxe 5341213.872745 2015-03-03 15:06:21 27382
DWR 2 sNyNwM...dtqtr 4302140.145631 2015-02-19 19:40:33 0
DWR 3 sJVkG6...zaRCQ 3000000.000000 2015-02-13 02:02:39 0
DWR 4 sYf5qH...rfE12 1409379.551962 2015-03-03 14:42:10 38672
DWR 5 sRsizG...FMBgU 1312033.302967 2014-10-16 07:53:41 0
DWR 6 sVFUSF...nm44i 1260618.342074 2015-03-01 13:30:41 3207
DWR 7 sJT5qP...3tmjJ 1186429.038159 2015-03-01 13:30:41 3061
DWR 8 sWrHre...vXKpu 1102943.868725 2015-01-12 18:10:57 0
DWR 9 seQ4HR...kRw2b 1071129.976304 2015-03-03 07:50:06 24
DWR 10 sexovu...DXtGK 1049507.828645 2015-03-03 12:06:46 41035
DWR 11 sa9r31...6ZgMk 1030000.000000 2015-02-06 20:02:57 0
DWR 12 sQHkqU...GEdrx 1025977.655586 2015-03-03 15:06:31 32774
DWR 13 sgF6G7...VaHxW 1008356.795970 2015-02-28 02:30:45 3889
DWR 14 sNtBHm...ZnpVx 965394.880146 2015-03-01 13:30:41 2432
DWR 15 sa17i3...HZC1u 902607.671301 2015-03-02 06:17:56 6086
DWR 16 sLe2bC...METPv 889708.655576 2015-02-24 23:01:03 35
DWR 17 sY2nmk...XSmKv 854614.285968 2015-03-03 14:10:31 0
DWR 18 sWtY6b...RLAek 849526.357675 2015-03-03 14:55:22 718
DWR 19 sfHdGy...Ehvw8 800020.000000 2015-03-01 13:30:41 0
DWR 20 sh4ztZ...sg6xt 781416.692615 2015-02-01 17:44:22 0
DWR 21 shU1df...Gjwot 761063.289672 2015-02-22 22:46:18 0
DWR 22 sfG6Qp...XXU5v 683214.052320 2015-03-03 14:47:20 163
DWR 23 sd8dyP...81JWY 619224.392834 2015-03-03 15:05:39 26600
DWR 24 sYda5n...ji5CF 601265.530045 2015-03-03 15:01:13 26072
DWR 25 sdR5v6...FjuWJ 600000.000000 2015-02-17 12:35:47 0
DWR 26 sKtTgv...zZxpG 596776.007331 2015-03-01 22:35:27 5454
DWR 27 sRZWrB...261LN 521026.642749 2015-03-03 15:02:20 747
DWR 28 sNt9RV...8Un89 513810.550000 2015-01-04 23:22:40 0
DWR 29 sabh4N...gLMXu 505117.741571 2015-02-27 09:30:34 15730
DWR 30 sSwJ98...TwJEJ 502068.992586 2015-02-06 16:56:42 0
DWR 31 sTRoU3...ZwzB4 489212.327540 2015-03-03 15:04:38 9485
DWR 32 sUBhKt...tyjKV 487421.753930 2015-03-03 14:44:10 9413
DWR 33 sfcPWN...eTd9v 480641.082800 2015-03-03 15:08:23 4136
DWR 34 sZRwd2...iPjjk 475112.428705 2015-03-03 14:49:39 26579
DWR 35 sVcMVv...K99UE 443064.000000 2014-11-13 07:14:16 0
DWR 36 se3S2z...6Du4N 426753.500000 2015-01-30 04:22:20 0
DWR 37 sdshTn...sTACa 423571.092804 2015-03-03 12:02:19 59
DWR 38 sYoVSp...5KBcM 408288.963802 2015-02-28 17:36:59 9068
DWR 39 sJNqJd...svXMe 400326.858738 2015-02-26 04:29:19 0
DWR 40 sTrVPn...x2jTF 399999.800000 2014-09-28 15:47:57 0
DWR 41 sb5oyr...G1eeA 363387.555797 2015-03-01 09:11:43 1369
DWR 42 sKqoWg...jgtYX 352250.800000 2015-02-22 18:40:33 0
DWR 43 sbyhP1...Cy5Ld 351960.068616 2015-03-03 11:26:43 332
DWR 44 sVzRju...Y3Q4s 313147.324079 2015-02-27 09:49:38 2483
DWR 45 sNoFVE...bSos8 310998.690000 2015-02-24 10:56:19 0
DWR 46 sZxP3Q...ERGRt 309691.219808 2015-03-03 15:05:06 2773
DWR 47 sZ7xrr...KswLX 300642.000000 2015-02-02 23:06:37 0
DWR 48 sMUihp...kAeeo 300281.652573 2015-03-03 10:28:53 2067
DWR 49 sS6eVM...hAEVx 290508.033231 2014-07-01 17:01:25 0
DWR 50 sdUAeD...w5fzg 272945.753541 2015-03-03 14:24:10 4994
DWR 51 sg2XpB...wbzef 271344.757287 2015-02-06 18:21:04 0
DWR 52 sNoAao...EEVt8 270000.000000 2015-03-02 03:29:48 0
DWR 53 seNCGt...Spt7Q 265974.013246 2015-03-03 08:40:50 0
DWR 54 sSo9nY...JrL48 261612.296630 2015-02-13 15:38:57 0
DWR 55 sboGA4...DMtBK 261612.096630 2015-02-26 11:07:37 0
DWR 56 sJNUGb...6eA9S 250006.639742 2015-02-11 22:41:37 7
DWR 57 sPVCJ3...c5kRJ 240151.396954 2015-02-15 15:23:30 19
DWR 58 sh4ohM...EFiPD 230475.292290 2015-03-03 13:54:14 8753
DWR 59 sPkA1Q...SF7FM 222849.062273 2015-02-27 09:32:28 1865
DWR 60 sKXAKx...xPmjg 217454.215408 2015-03-03 14:59:09 20239
DWR 61 sQp9HC...1Y7hg 212198.137975 2015-02-27 09:28:11 1751
DWR 62 sbv3S6...aqvFJ 204579.512188 2015-03-03 14:10:31 0
DWR 63 sPTEgq...KNnDN 204048.538717 2015-03-02 23:00:26 276
DWR 64 sfBhjn...45pf8 201645.003225 2014-08-09 11:38:13 3
DWR 65 sQdV6G...wGzGZ 200001.846082 2015-03-02 07:13:19 4
DWR 66 sWqp2p...K6grR 200000.000000 2015-02-25 16:29:18 0
DWR 67 sPUCRb...KRw3N 200000.000000 2015-01-13 10:00:12 0
DWR 68 sLTaWY...MQP6o 200000.000000 2015-03-03 08:06:16 0
DWR 69 sU5VKf...aaHuR 194087.676435 2015-03-03 01:20:52 2698
DWR 70 sK5ogE...qfmtq 184180.000000 2015-02-06 01:31:18 0
DWR 71 sL2cHa...rCQbt 180526.139772 2015-03-03 14:56:29 13554
DWR 72 sJiQJu...hRmib 176709.463710 2015-03-03 15:00:01 1906
DWR 73 sQFzZx...CZgDB 174700.108476 2015-03-03 11:42:41 2695
DWR 74 sc6iRS...kWXNa 168569.801269 2015-03-03 04:51:13 10
DWR 75 sNdVzF...mboYE 159921.605445 2015-01-17 14:04:22 1982
DWR 76 scr7hU...snsH9 157786.226562 2015-03-03 12:59:21 11967
DWR 77 sbP3nh...FxaSL 151391.714459 2014-07-16 18:13:30 3953
DWR 78 safd7Z...P2gQG 150300.013200 2014-07-12 07:11:08 0
DWR 79 sceBnh...T3qUa 149999.800000 2015-02-02 19:35:48 0
DWR 80 sLArGg...ogj3N 148098.155493 2015-03-03 09:53:39 900
DWR 81 seTMdx...UGZCv 143771.933218 2015-03-02 10:17:38 0
DWR 82 sKqMpP...4J2Ye 143222.858228 2015-03-01 09:22:38 7687
DWR 83 sKHSvY...Q87Xo 132290.047564 2015-03-03 14:07:42 2406
DWR 84 sSR9o3...uNr9g 117879.789267 2015-03-03 14:13:37 7078
DWR 85 sWUqEf...ZC2oE 117099.951649 2015-02-24 23:00:45 1
DWR 86 sdVwLj...dnmkd 114953.957595 2015-02-27 09:04:30 3881
DWR 87 sJkFrN...PdnQu 111217.189068 2015-03-03 14:35:52 190
DWR 88 sUuajz...1n6FD 111000.000000 2015-03-03 15:04:15 0
DWR 89 sRiAYM...sqzEZ 110880.526797 2015-03-03 08:17:03 236
DWR 90 seJwpj...vZAyM 106204.217565 2015-03-03 14:42:28 4900
DWR 91 sKcFn5...TNLKb 104752.488794 2015-03-03 14:14:47 4959
DWR 92 sNSvKC...AfegA 103643.755093 2015-03-03 08:06:16 0
DWR 93 sJkVxT...BNco2 102833.564895 2015-02-27 09:17:07 2253
DWR 94 sXQban...yWCZL 102548.018668 2014-09-20 06:40:48 353
DWR 95 seB9ju...c66pT 101843.636420 2015-03-03 13:22:34 636
DWR 96 sQn22B...B2ZUQ 100254.546872 2015-02-27 12:56:07 158
DWR 97 shDqz7...3EeER 100091.141908 2015-03-02 23:46:07 1429
DWR 98 sL5vVn...Xc9YN 100000.000000 2015-02-28 12:25:39 0
DWR 99 seYjfi...DKmWh 99606.670000 2015-02-10 14:38:18 0
DWR 100 sPBC2t...C9wnj 99506.957961 2015-02-28 16:45:47 2128
Below there is a list of addresses that have undergone major changes in the last 7 days, the list is very experimental. Counting only the first 10 addresses listed, they have accumulated a total of more than 2.5 million NAV. It seems to me that now really much money are changing hands. Deep Watch Report from block 975951 to block 996950 at 2015-03-03 16:04:27 UTC
DWR Rank Address total Last (UTC) POS
DWR 1 sfG6Qp...XXU5v 685220.911984 2015-03-03 16:00:10 168
DWR 2 seQ4HR...kRw2b 557324.990928 2015-03-03 07:50:06 19
DWR 3 sboGA4...DMtBK 261612.096630 2015-02-26 11:07:37 0
DWR 4 sQdV6G...wGzGZ 200001.846082 2015-03-02 07:13:19 4
DWR 5 sLTaWY...MQP6o 200000.000000 2015-03-03 08:06:16 0
DWR 6 sc6iRS...kWXNa 168569.801269 2015-03-03 04:51:13 10
DWR 7 sfdzo3...uMNxe 165753.086616 2015-03-03 16:03:06 5606
DWR 8 sNSvKC...AfegA 103643.755093 2015-03-03 08:06:16 0
DWR 9 sWqp2p...K6grR 100000.000000 2015-02-25 16:29:18 0
DWR 10 sfcPWN...eTd9v 78043.633600 2015-03-03 15:42:23 581
DWR 11 sPTEgq...KNnDN 69709.897039 2015-03-02 23:00:26 29
DWR 12 sQFzZx...CZgDB 32285.044528 2015-03-03 11:42:41 110
DWR 13 sasN5y...WsCQj 29322.523064 2015-03-03 03:17:44 2
DWR 14 seajzq...Adx4q 27999.800000 2015-03-02 10:17:38 0
DWR 15 sJhB7B...tYVeL 25018.218150 2015-03-03 08:19:53 6
DWR 16 sJkFrN...PdnQu 18966.335309 2015-03-03 15:53:53 94
DWR 17 sTRoU3...ZwzB4 17907.575694 2015-03-03 16:00:30 507
DWR 18 sJJHSf...Z132d 10164.970440 2015-02-24 16:05:45 0
DWR 19 sUKok7...PURzV 9147.814468 2015-02-25 19:03:24 0
DWR 20 sWbtU4...oJa4y 8558.870752 2015-03-03 13:52:55 63
DWR 5729 seTMdx...UGZCv -19105.954613 2015-03-02 10:17:38 0
DWR 5730 sNg6Z7...Lfycw -20000.000000 2015-02-26 00:00:14 0
DWR 5731 sbv3S6...aqvFJ -25197.479999 2015-03-03 15:33:35 0
DWR 5732 sNtBHm...ZnpVx -26250.735394 2015-03-01 13:30:41 100
DWR 5733 sVFUSF...nm44i -26307.252935 2015-03-01 13:30:41 106
DWR 5734 seNCGt...Spt7Q -26344.441888 2015-03-03 08:40:50 0
DWR 5735 sYf5qH...rfE12 -39357.498831 2015-03-03 15:41:14 1293
DWR 5736 sdJD7Z...JSQPG -39999.990000 2015-03-01 10:08:23 0
DWR 5737 sJT5qP...3tmjJ -46814.613395 2015-03-01 13:30:41 127
DWR 5738 seajdZ...grybb -50000.000000 2015-03-02 06:10:24 0
DWR 5739 sUuajz...1n6FD -70000.000000 2015-03-03 15:04:15 0
DWR 5740 sdxcWJ...PhXN2 -71703.022588 2015-03-03 15:33:35 14
DWR 5741 sY2nmk...XSmKv -76192.448290 2015-03-03 15:33:35 0
DWR 5742 sW4N5w...kxhvW -78321.415345 2015-03-03 08:06:16 0
DWR 5743 shAnT3...tcEh5 -100001.000000 2015-02-28 17:47:22 0
DWR 5744 sZNpP8...9dGDi -200000.000000 2015-02-28 16:42:49 0
DWR 5745 sQyBKd...gACMS -200001.000000 2015-03-01 16:14:41 0
DWR 5746 sYU8qk...YsUQb -219785.140713 2015-02-26 11:07:37 0
DWR 5747 sSEeFW...DCT8b -225322.164910 2015-03-03 08:06:16 0
DWR 5748 sfHdGy...Ehvw8 -400000.000000 2015-03-01 13:30:41 0
DWR 5749 sKXAKx...xPmjg -628177.128743 2015-03-03 16:00:10 861
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But I am on Windows. Can someone compile win wallet with this fix? I have just academic interest. The source code is common for Linux and Windows. As a general rule, for good reasons of security, the executable of a wallet must always come from its Dev, which in this case is gone, perhaps out of shame. So excuse me, but I do not feel like to send you the program re-compiled, but perhaps I can still be of help, I found how you can do alone a patch to the executable code. Download from the first page of this thread the original program for windows, and upload it in the binary editor you prefer. Go to the location 000FF5D9 (1045977), here you should see this series of bytes: 000FF5D9: C0C54EECC483F8 63771D the byte that contains the "63" (99 in decimal) is the number to be changed, you can put 05 as the first patch indicated, or 01 as suggested by Patjar. Once modified, the result should look like this (in the case of 6): 000FF5D9: C0C54EECC483F8 05771D Once done, if everything matches, save the file with a new name, the work is finished. At this point the new wallet is now fixed, and if you have some coin in your wallet, it should be able to go into stake without getting stuck. Hypothetically speaking. Bye Bye |
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is it better to divide my nav with coin control?
bump what does that mean. does it stake better if coins are split up? It makes no difference. Even if you have 1 million NAV on one transaction, the wallet will split them up when staking in chunks of 1000-3000 each Makes some difference, but in reverse. Some crypto-currencies have a number of inherent limitations with their model of stake, which require him to divide the pile to avoid heavy restrictions on the final value. Another good reason, even if extreme, it could be that in the case where at a certain time in the whole network there were only very few piles, each of enormous size ready for the stake, it could lead to the paradox that once they are all gone in stake, it would be very difficult to generate new blocks and then confirm the previous stakes. Block chain locked. In any case, it is true that the wallet automatically performs a split of the pile, a division into 2, roughly the same value, but only if the stake occurs rapidly, in a time less than MaxAge [1], currently 1 day, but if the time to achieve the stake was longer, there is no split. One thing to keep in mind is the CoinWeight, it makes more or less likely to get a stake, this value is given by the value of the pile, multiplied by its age with a limit equal to MaxAge. In practice the CoinWeight, starts from a minimum value as soon as the pile becomes mature for the stake (MinAge: 2 hours), and continues to grow in a linear manner until the age reaches MaxAge, from that point on it remains constant. Obviously, when you have "luck" and you get the stake, the cycle begins again. So it seems to me that by this reasoning, evidence suggests that the value of the pile ... has its value. One other school of thought, considered better to have a large number of smaller pile, so as to have a kind of so many lottery tickets though with smaller prizes and more sparse, rather than just few most valuable. Of course you are free to choose and experiment with as you wish. Bye Bye [1] EDIT: I double checked, I'm sorry I made a mistake, the test carried out to decide whether or not to split in two the pile, it is not tied to the MaxAge parameter, but is linked to the variable nStakeSplitAge which corresponds equally to a day. |
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Another reason is that you might have a connection too slow, or the wallet is able
to establish only a low number of connections.
Remy, how do I increase the number of connections? Typically, a number of connections between 4 and 5 are more than enough, then if they are more is even better, because in this way it helps to rapidly redistribute among the peer the packets with the transaction and the blocks of the chain. Normally the wallet try cyclically to create outbound connections to other nodes, hoping that these other peers accept incoming connections. But sometimes this does not happen, because even their wallet is listening and waiting for a new external connection, they may have the router, the firewall or nat, which by defaults prevent these incoming connections to arrive up to their wallet. So if you have a few connections and you want to help the network, you might want to check that your router / nat / firewall, let it get incoming connections to the port on which the wallet listens to receive connections from other peers, which in the case of NAV, should be the port 44440. In this way, even if you will not be able to contact them, because they are still not able to listen, then they will be able to contact you cyclically, this time successfully. A similar kind of problem you may have with many games, p2p or programs that directly exchange information, and certainly you can find many guides on the net about it. Regarding the procedure to do it, I can not be precise, the types of equipment change much, and certainly here there are those who experienced than me on the subject. Bye Bye |
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Sorry I got ahead of myself. I open the wallet for a couple of hours while im surfing and shut down with computer. Have not had on for day and night for days on end.
What I meant to ask is what is the main difference between something like electrum wallet? that is open and running straight away, vs. these wallets that you have to sync.. I meant it from a simpleton point of view. Like long term for wider adoption nobody wants to wait for anything.
So you complained about something that you have not even tried to do. ^_^ I know little the electrum wallet, then I could say nonsense, but I seem to have been designed primarily for systems of type "pure POW", where the task of advancing the blockchain and make it safe and decentralized, is entrusted to the many miners, while in the case of the project electrum the data blockchain, is stored on a number of external servers. Instead in the currencies of type "pure POS", as Navajocoin, is a precise task of each wallet open, to check transactions and stake coming in the blockchain, based on the operations previously stored, of which every wallet retain a copy distributed. A lightweight version of the wallet, I would say almost amputated, so without the ability to verify the operation and / or staking, perhaps it would be possible, but if it were used massively, would be at the expense of decentralization and global security of the network. In any case, if as suggested by Soopy in the future there will be a reduced version of the wallet for the web, there will be the no need of a lite version of wallet. Regarding the fact that no one wants to wait, especially young people, I do not say anything... I prefer to leave it to do HashForce, he rightly repeats a phrase in this regard. ^__^ Bye |
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Its the future and the new generation owns it. With that being said, I believe in the idea buTT the main issue I have with the whole ordeal is time framing. I've been trying to sync my wallet for a week now and still have 345 thousand blocks left. Is there anyway to get this time frame down??
I must admit that it is a long time that I do not do a boot blockchain from scratch (I've made too many in the past ), but from what you say there might be a total duration of about 10 days, it seems really exaggerated. The 'Currente number of block' shown in the Debug window, advancing on a regular basis, or stopped at a specific block? The wallet may have simply frozen, try to restart it. The wallet will start again from the point where you left off. Are you sure you have no other hardware or software problems on your PC? For example, a harddisk that for some reason has an access time which is too slow, may adversely affect the time necessary to complete the update. Another reason is that you might have a connection too slow, or the wallet is able to establish only a low number of connections. However, there is also the blockchain in zip format, which significantly shortens the time necessary to complete the initial update. Bye |
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yes website was down. I am researching for this problem. Due this research I changed the loading timings for the block explorer. therefor it could be it is sometime 15 minutes back to now.
I will try further!
Thanks Pakage and Shahim, for your reply and for your work. Bye |
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Hm. May be I wrong... It's really said Proof of Stake
Min Age 4 days
But as I remember I hadn't wait 4 days before staking...But it was so long ago... It used to be 4 days but that changed months ago. Now its 1 day AFAIK These are the POS specification currently in use: POS (Phase 2 Started) : Min age: 2 Hours Max age: 1 Day Minted Blocks Maturity: 60 POS phase 2 Start after Block Height: 141350 Stake Interest: Rest of first Year: 20% Second Year: 10% Third Year + nYears: 5% Naturally, the time required for a pile of coins to generate a stake block with success is not fixed, but as in any coin that uses the POS, it varies greatly, depending on the value of pile of coin, and the overall condition of the network, and in part by luck. Bye |
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This is an effect of your work, or is there some other problem on the network of server?
Bye Bye
Word ..the site was down a couple of times for a bit. Due to work I hope.. whats the dealio  Right now for me is off-line. The reason I ask this is just to understand. If there is another type of problem, I think the Dev should be advised, otherwise we can not expect that the problems will resolve themselves. From my point of view, give feedback about how things work or not, is the best support that we can give to its developer. Bye |
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Hello Pakage, are a couple of days that the official website, and the block
explorer work intermittently.
Today the block explorer could not seem to ever catch up with blockchain height,
was always ten minutes or more behind. Now it seems again off line.
This is an effect of your work, or is there some other problem on the network of server?
Bye Bye
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No one selling, no one buying, no one writing anything here. CALM BEFORE THE STORM  Yeah, a time of waiting, laden with tension and hopes. The blockexploror right now is back on line, and it is upgrading a little at a time. The richlist however is not yet updated. Regarding the blockchain, there is no news worth mentioning, which is in itself already a good news. Below is a richlist, as usual unofficial. Deep Watch Report from block 1 to block 978758 at 2015-02-25 14:47:20 UTC
DWR Rank Address total Last (UTC) POS
DWR 1 sfdzo3...uMNxe 5176552.943203 2015-02-25 14:33:24 22633
DWR 2 sNyNwM...dtqtr 4302140.145631 2015-02-19 19:40:33 0
DWR 3 sJVkG6...zaRCQ 3000000.000000 2015-02-13 02:02:39 0
DWR 4 sYf5qH...rfE12 1449063.116415 2015-02-25 14:22:09 37600
DWR 5 sRsizG...FMBgU 1312033.302967 2014-10-16 07:53:41 0
DWR 6 sVFUSF...nm44i 1286925.595009 2015-02-23 06:02:11 3101
DWR 7 sJT5qP...3tmjJ 1233243.651555 2015-02-23 06:10:55 2934
DWR 8 sfHdGy...Ehvw8 1200020.000000 2015-02-19 11:10:12 0
DWR 9 sWrHre...vXKpu 1102943.868725 2015-01-12 18:10:57 0
DWR 10 sexovu...DXtGK 1048368.445642 2015-02-25 14:15:48 40123
DWR 11 sa9r31...6ZgMk 1030000.000000 2015-02-06 20:02:57 0
DWR 12 sQHkqU...GEdrx 1026332.706523 2015-02-25 14:31:23 32175
DWR 13 sgF6G7...VaHxW 1008340.821717 2015-02-25 12:04:04 3874
DWR 14 sNtBHm...ZnpVx 991645.615541 2015-02-23 06:16:36 2332
DWR 15 sY2nmk...XSmKv 923607.456659 2015-02-20 22:09:01 0
DWR 16 sa17i3...HZC1u 902457.592355 2015-02-20 10:26:41 5969
DWR 17 sLe2bC...METPv 889708.655576 2015-02-24 23:01:03 35
DWR 18 sWtY6b...RLAek 848837.926034 2015-02-24 11:29:12 165
DWR 19 sKXAKx...xPmjg 843538.733932 2015-02-25 13:43:41 19537
DWR 20 sh4ztZ...sg6xt 781416.692615 2015-02-01 17:44:22 0
DWR 21 shU1df...Gjwot 761063.289672 2015-02-22 22:46:18 0
DWR 22 sd8dyP...81JWY 618332.671673 2015-02-25 14:31:35 25872
DWR 23 sYda5n...ji5CF 600353.666648 2015-02-25 14:27:39 25359
DWR 24 sdR5v6...FjuWJ 600000.000000 2015-02-17 12:35:47 0
DWR 25 sKtTgv...zZxpG 596766.080964 2015-02-23 12:10:16 5445
DWR 26 sRZWrB...261LN 520522.076652 2015-02-25 14:15:12 343
DWR 27 sNt9RV...8Un89 513810.550000 2015-01-04 23:22:40 0
DWR 28 seQ4HR...kRw2b 513804.985375 2015-02-17 06:25:34 5
DWR 29 sabh4N...gLMXu 505088.254076 2015-02-25 07:48:24 15708
DWR 30 sSwJ98...TwJEJ 502068.992586 2015-02-06 16:56:42 0
DWR 31 sUBhKt...tyjKV 486655.779002 2015-02-25 14:12:23 8795
DWR 32 sZRwd2...iPjjk 474381.492418 2015-02-25 14:13:21 26019
DWR 33 sTRoU3...ZwzB4 471396.503602 2015-02-25 14:31:16 9046
DWR 34 sVcMVv...K99UE 443064.000000 2014-11-13 07:14:16 0
DWR 35 se3S2z...6Du4N 426753.500000 2015-01-30 04:22:20 0
DWR 36 sdshTn...sTACa 423558.099750 2015-02-25 12:01:01 44
DWR 37 sYoVSp...5KBcM 408061.477959 2015-02-24 02:24:56 8881
DWR 38 sfcPWN...eTd9v 402702.601421 2015-02-25 14:29:50 3643
DWR 39 sJNqJd...svXMe 400668.858738 2015-02-22 18:40:33 0
DWR 40 sTrVPn...x2jTF 399999.800000 2014-09-28 15:47:57 0
DWR 41 sb5oyr...G1eeA 363201.858983 2015-02-25 10:32:14 1214
DWR 42 sKqoWg...jgtYX 352250.800000 2015-02-22 18:40:33 0
DWR 43 sbyhP1...Cy5Ld 351877.294309 2015-02-24 21:59:07 267
DWR 44 sVzRju...Y3Q4s 313133.986010 2015-02-25 07:38:42 2472
DWR 45 sNoFVE...bSos8 310998.690000 2015-02-24 10:56:19 0
DWR 46 sZxP3Q...ERGRt 309573.791518 2015-02-21 01:01:56 2681
DWR 47 sZ7xrr...KswLX 300642.000000 2015-02-02 23:06:37 0
DWR 48 sMUihp...kAeeo 300230.973300 2015-02-24 14:02:11 2028
DWR 49 sS6eVM...hAEVx 290508.033231 2014-07-01 17:01:25 0
DWR 50 seNCGt...Spt7Q 288261.891796 2015-02-25 03:07:53 0
DWR 51 sNoAao...EEVt8 275000.000000 2015-02-24 08:55:04 0
DWR 52 sdUAeD...w5fzg 273106.298685 2015-02-25 14:09:53 4669
DWR 53 sg2XpB...wbzef 271344.757287 2015-02-06 18:21:04 0
DWR 54 sSo9nY...JrL48 261612.296630 2015-02-13 15:38:57 0
DWR 55 sJNUGb...6eA9S 250006.639742 2015-02-11 22:41:37 7
DWR 56 sPVCJ3...c5kRJ 240151.396954 2015-02-15 15:23:30 19
DWR 57 sh4ohM...EFiPD 230152.118221 2015-02-25 13:54:41 8498
DWR 58 sbv3S6...aqvFJ 228877.082487 2015-02-20 11:51:44 0
DWR 59 sSEeFW...DCT8b 225322.164910 2015-02-11 20:59:30 4
DWR 60 sPkA1Q...SF7FM 222837.322597 2015-02-25 07:36:47 1857
DWR 61 sYU8qk...YsUQb 219785.140713 2015-01-13 12:13:45 0
DWR 62 sQp9HC...1Y7hg 212185.519325 2015-02-25 07:25:26 1742
DWR 63 sfBhjn...45pf8 201645.003225 2014-08-09 11:38:13 3
DWR 64 sQyBKd...gACMS 200291.000000 2015-01-22 08:51:55 0
DWR 65 sZNpP8...9dGDi 200010.000000 2015-02-18 20:48:26 0
DWR 66 sPUCRb...KRw3N 200000.000000 2015-01-13 10:00:12 0
DWR 67 sU5VKf...aaHuR 194050.753135 2015-02-25 02:58:31 2674
DWR 68 sK5ogE...qfmtq 184180.000000 2015-02-06 01:31:18 0
DWR 69 sUuajz...1n6FD 181000.000000 2015-02-20 16:48:35 0
DWR 70 sL2cHa...rCQbt 180308.483985 2015-02-25 14:22:46 13396
DWR 71 sJiQJu...hRmib 176389.120149 2015-02-25 13:36:58 1673
DWR 72 seTMdx...UGZCv 161408.557411 2015-02-25 03:07:53 0
DWR 73 sNdVzF...mboYE 159921.605445 2015-01-17 14:04:22 1982
DWR 74 scr7hU...snsH9 157581.212431 2015-02-25 14:25:01 11808
DWR 75 sbP3nh...FxaSL 151391.714459 2014-07-16 18:13:30 3953
DWR 76 safd7Z...P2gQG 150300.013200 2014-07-12 07:11:08 0
DWR 77 sceBnh...T3qUa 149999.800000 2015-02-02 19:35:48 0
DWR 78 sLArGg...ogj3N 147966.840875 2015-02-24 17:23:26 788
DWR 79 sKqMpP...4J2Ye 143073.602814 2015-02-25 11:47:55 7563
DWR 80 sQFzZx...CZgDB 142431.468186 2015-02-25 12:07:41 2602
DWR 81 sPTEgq...KNnDN 134341.395040 2015-02-24 23:27:48 249
DWR 82 sKHSvY...Q87Xo 132243.129676 2015-02-25 10:05:45 2368
DWR 83 sdxcWJ...PhXN2 121541.066960 2015-02-25 08:15:12 36
DWR 84 sSR9o3...uNr9g 117747.854724 2015-02-25 14:30:24 6974
DWR 85 sWUqEf...ZC2oE 117099.951649 2015-02-24 23:00:45 1
DWR 86 sdVwLj...dnmkd 114940.377559 2015-02-24 19:29:11 3873
DWR 87 sRiAYM...sqzEZ 110863.576202 2015-02-24 09:48:12 220
DWR 88 seJwpj...vZAyM 106085.363635 2015-02-25 10:15:35 4809
DWR 89 sKcFn5...TNLKb 104733.475330 2015-02-18 12:50:40 4945
DWR 90 sJkVxT...BNco2 102829.496329 2015-02-25 06:02:56 2250
DWR 91 sXQban...yWCZL 102548.018668 2014-09-20 06:40:48 353
DWR 92 seB9ju...c66pT 101692.820733 2015-02-25 11:57:01 518
DWR 93 sL5vVn...Xc9YN 100300.000000 2015-02-14 13:12:00 0
DWR 94 sQn22B...B2ZUQ 100204.224619 2015-02-25 11:25:41 126
DWR 95 shDqz7...3EeER 100027.727210 2015-02-25 14:07:54 1378
DWR 96 shAnT3...tcEh5 100001.000000 2015-02-17 09:53:57 0
DWR 97 sWqp2p...K6grR 100000.000000 2015-02-19 19:48:45 0
DWR 98 seYjfi...DKmWh 99606.670000 2015-02-10 14:38:18 0
DWR 99 sPBC2t...C9wnj 99491.152157 2015-02-17 10:11:43 2116
DWR 100 sQUPW9...Fk6XG 97678.312839 2015-02-13 22:39:41 15137
The following is a list of the first 20+ and 20- addresses that have undergone major changes in the last week, basically a difference between the data of now, and those a week ago. This data are partial, very experimental. Deep Watch Report from block 957800 to block 978799 at 2015-02-25 14:56:44 UTC
DWR Rank Address total Last (UTC) POS
DWR 1 shU1df...Gjwot 761063.289672 2015-02-22 22:46:18 0
DWR 2 sWtY6b...RLAek 394116.580722 2015-02-24 11:29:12 156
DWR 3 sKqoWg...jgtYX 352250.800000 2015-02-22 18:40:33 0
DWR 4 sNyNwM...dtqtr 350000.000000 2015-02-19 19:40:33 0
DWR 5 sNoFVE...bSos8 310998.690000 2015-02-24 10:56:19 0
DWR 6 sYda5n...ji5CF 205516.436991 2015-02-25 14:40:02 743
DWR 7 sQHkqU...GEdrx 122522.635830 2015-02-25 14:55:49 326
DWR 8 sdxcWJ...PhXN2 121541.066960 2015-02-25 08:15:12 36
DWR 9 sWUqEf...ZC2oE 117099.951649 2015-02-24 23:00:45 1
DWR 10 shDqz7...3EeER 100027.727210 2015-02-25 14:07:54 26
DWR 11 sfcPWN...eTd9v 78417.733463 2015-02-25 14:29:50 504
DWR 12 sbyhP1...Cy5Ld 76319.802144 2015-02-24 21:59:07 78
DWR 13 sNg6Z7...Lfycw 70000.000000 2015-02-21 00:11:21 0
DWR 14 sUuajz...1n6FD 56000.000000 2015-02-20 16:48:35 0
DWR 15 sRcFdG...d1qwa 49997.092586 2015-02-25 10:48:20 101
DWR 16 sdJD7Z...JSQPG 40449.970000 2015-02-22 22:46:18 0
DWR 17 sTRoU3...ZwzB4 39729.812035 2015-02-25 14:42:59 515
DWR 18 sJkFrN...PdnQu 29336.982008 2015-02-25 11:43:24 70
DWR 19 sYf5qH...rfE12 18981.487307 2015-02-25 14:46:05 1532
DWR 20 sZLeiV...B2LDt 14942.800812 2015-02-25 02:01:56 56
DWR 1567 sLyRBB...8MYyW -21000.000000 2015-02-19 10:19:29 0
DWR 1568 sc5f2g...r39WY -21502.766151 2015-02-23 08:02:05 0
DWR 1569 sU7Bh6...95V5p -22814.532567 2015-02-25 09:03:00 29
DWR 1570 sJiQJu...hRmib -25294.114942 2015-02-25 13:36:58 284
DWR 1571 seNCGt...Spt7Q -27016.015075 2015-02-25 14:55:23 0
DWR 1572 sJT5qP...3tmjJ -34876.103401 2015-02-23 06:10:55 271
DWR 1573 sc6HmQ...yXcNR -35000.000000 2015-02-18 19:36:18 0
DWR 1574 sLa1hV...op7KN -43046.118200 2015-02-18 22:31:15 0
DWR 1575 sNtBHm...ZnpVx -44195.493593 2015-02-23 06:16:36 214
DWR 1576 sdFV5R...p4BTb -55374.994480 2015-02-22 20:42:51 0
DWR 1577 sgwYYK...2YHb9 -69846.142781 2015-02-25 14:43:33 114
DWR 1578 sLTaWY...MQP6o -70000.000000 2015-02-22 02:27:55 0
DWR 1579 sWqp2p...K6grR -100000.000000 2015-02-19 19:48:45 0
DWR 1580 sLCbA5...E6Hpg -126845.950061 2015-02-18 17:06:48 0
DWR 1581 sLe2bC...METPv -127086.720237 2015-02-24 23:01:03 8
DWR 1582 sZNpP8...9dGDi -200000.000000 2015-02-18 20:48:26 0
DWR 1583 sSuw7e...R6teo -250000.000000 2015-02-19 10:19:29 0
DWR 1584 seXpWL...Yztn8 -310998.500000 2015-02-22 18:15:54 0
DWR 1585 sRZWrB...261LN -329539.609978 2015-02-25 14:41:50 298
DWR 1586 sJNqJd...svXMe -331610.624140 2015-02-22 18:40:33 0
DWR 1587 sdhGjR...swfmq -801063.289672 2015-02-22 22:46:18 0
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THE ABOVE METHOD WILL FORCE YOUR WALLET TO DEMAND TO SHUT DOWN PROPERLY, SO THAT YOU DO NOT RECEIVE ANY ERROR MESSAGES WHEN YOU TRY TO RESTART YOUR QT-CLIENT.
I can not prove it in my wallet, but I would like to ask you if you, in previous cases of freeze have you ever tried to use the command in the console window: stop 1 This command serves to close all files of DB, and then close the wallet. Perhaps it might be useful, and if it works there is also a small shortcut. Bye Bye |
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Interesting assertions. If we take these two statements to be true and we resort to the use of a simple logical reasoning, then "IF" SummercoinV2 is not a Anon coin, and "IF" NavajoCoin Is SummercoinV2, then it follows logically that NavajoCoin is not Anon. So an exact answer to your contest is that no AnonCrytocoin can be linked to NavajoCoin, just because within the period of the competition, so until the next release, is the same NavajoCoin, which is not a Anon coin. So if you contradict me now, then contradict yourself or the contest. However, to reduce the time, here is another further try, it is a currency with another name, another abbreviation, another wallet, another block chain incompatible with NAV, have other essential coin parameters, but has its own Anon system is extremely similar to that of the white paper, and the his abbreviation is... [Drum roll, to emphasize the suspense] NAB and its full name is "Navajo Anon Beta coins". Bye |
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I really think someone should consider take a look at the wallet again and maybe try to fix it, it's not very stable atleast to me and I'm sure many other people are experiencing the same. It would take maybe months if not longer to download the whole complete blockchain for any new investors (I know you can download the chain and save time but it would still take atleast a week or two to download all the recents blocks and be updated). another major problem for me is, the wallet would freeze every day or two (while staking) and I will have to kill the program and relaunch, then it would take 4-6hrs to download like 3-6k latest blocks before it can stake again, and this will just repeats every other day. it's insane slowly.
Wouldnt it be a good idead to put the blockchain in the cloud so people dont have to load it anymore and always have the most recent data? Yes, the problem of instability has also been reported by others, and has been analyzed and tested, is an intermittent problem that varies significantly from machine to machine, AFAIK the fix to this should be released with the next release. For the moment, the best advice I can give is to not wait for the wallet locks, but close it manually and restart it at regular intervals, before it freezes. This will drastically reduce the problems and delays caused by the updating of block-chain. I can not tell you precisely how much must be the interval, as I said varies from machine to machine, you must decide according to your experience, but one or two times a day may be a good starting point. Regarding the loading time block-chain in itself, it naturally tends to increase, we are now close to a million blocks. Well, IMHO, in theory, there is no real need of a cloud, the navojocoin network is itself a p2p network, in which the nodes continuously exchange new blocks data. Surely Shahim, before launch of new release will produce an updated version of the bootstrap.dat zip. And if I am not mistaken, Shahim had proposed as a hypothesis for the future, a secondary smaller bootstrap system, with a series of partial data each of them limited to a few thousand blocks, that the wallet would load automatically in a transparent manner when necessary. (Ok, yes this is something similar to what you were saying earlier about the cloud, but made on a smaller scale and therefore in more efficient way) Bye |
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The Prize is to link our Anonymous Technology to any Other Crypto Anon COIN - DRK etc etc
I know this !!! The Anonymous Technology of NavajoCoin is absolutely at least linked to... SummercoinV2 !!! And I want to see who has the courage to deny it. After all, has been HashForce101 to say "any Other Crypto Anon COIN". Remy |
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Good Try . Navajoocoin is a re-branding of SummercoinV2 & SummercoinV2 is not a ANON coin 
