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1001  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why you use Bitcoin? on: November 13, 2013, 10:41:06 PM
trade with anyone in the world
low fees and simple to accept payments
micro payments are do-able
shaking up the banking establishment (like MP3/HTML did for music/publishing industies)
store of value that rises with inflation
honest accounting (true capitalism)
1002  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why the mining difficulty increase? on: November 13, 2013, 10:30:04 PM
The network is balanced by raising the difficulty so a block about every ten minutes is solved...

...six blocks per hour x 24 hours per day x 25 BTC reward = 3600 new Bitcoins per day (until 2016).

Yes it's by design, it causes us to compete to solve the block, which drives computational efficiency, and it doesn't flood the system with new coins too quickly.
1003  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Islamic Bank of Bitcoin on: November 13, 2013, 07:28:29 PM
Bitcoin would make a good Sharia currency because tied to electricity costs it can keep pace with inflation without requiring interest payments.
1004  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: electricity costs? on: November 13, 2013, 07:09:24 PM
The next generation of ASICs should be even more efficient though.

Not much more power efficient.  28nm technology is probably best one can hope for even next year.

But If choosing if Avalon (or BFL from ebay) or KNC, I would go to KNC, it will be competetive much longer because more efficient
Yes much more power efficient.
We already have 28nm? Huh?

Yes 28nm is already in customer hands mining since Oct 2013 KNC won that race for Europe. A tad expensive but I'm sure they'll mine that back with a 2-4 month head start over competitors. Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFjNUb1AbQ8
1005  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [115 Th] 50BTC.com - PPS|Stratum+Vardiff|Port 80|QIWI,Yandex,Mobile,WM... on: November 13, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
Did

www.50BTC.com see http://www.bitcoinx.com/ pie chart

die and become

www.GHash.io see http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/ pie chart

It says it's a private pool now! Shocked

I left in the summer and used Bitminter instead after daily payments started going missing or delayed, it's never a good sign.

It's a shame to see the Bitcoin network being concentrated into fewer and fewer hands. Eventually some group is going to break the 51% an kill it.
1006  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: How long will my BFL 30 be stuck in UK customs? on: November 13, 2013, 01:07:23 PM
The final insult from BFL Smiley fu*kers

Nothing to do with BFL.  It's just the way it works when you import anything from outside the EU.

Quote
[EDIT] do you think UK customs will accept bitcoin  Cool

I think you know the answer to that one Smiley

Funny thing is, if Royal Mail owe you any money, they just pay you in 1st class stamps, which they print up!
1007  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Least reliable company? on: November 13, 2013, 11:28:21 AM
BFL has to win the award for stringing people along for the longest time.

It was two months away from delivery for over a year!  Roll Eyes That's gotta be some kind of world record?

I wonder how many buyers sued for loss of production?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequential_damages

1008  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What happens to Bitcoin value when block reward drops? on: November 13, 2013, 10:43:57 AM
It will cost more to mine new coins so pretty much guarantees as rise in Bitcoin price.

Expect to see lots of Bitcoin arbitrage scams around this period. They go something like this...

I have the miracle mining machine, you'll need it to remain profitable, pre-order with Bitcoins now!

Reward drops, bitcoin price rises.

Sorry the project has been canceled / indefinably delayed (until you cancel order), here's your money back, in dollars, because we had to convert it.

They pocket the price rise for themselves, the people who pre-ordered in Bitcoins lose out.

1009  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why is bitcoin supply curve as it is? on: November 12, 2013, 10:04:58 PM
It's to get the technology to evolve to a point where it can the most efficient it can be.

If it was a straight line we'd all still be doing it with a PC like Litecoin.


Litecoin has block reward halving every 4 years as well, but not even FPGA yet. I believe to get the technology to evolve it must be profitable, which Litecoin is not, so no FPGAs yet

Litecoin uses the Script algorithm, which makes heavy use of memory, to keep it on PCs and stop people gaining a mining advantage by using FPGAs/ASICS. They compensated for this by making the blocks easier to solve which strangely makes a 51% attack less likely.


Yes, it is possible to make ASICs with big relative fast memory included, to outperform GPUs in power consuptions, but who is going to spend up to 1 mil USD fr development when the Litecoin mining is not much profitable? Ony preorder based investing could do it, but there is little profit to be made

That was the point, to make it so expensive, coin production couldn't be concentrated into the hands of the few.
1010  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why is bitcoin supply curve as it is? on: November 12, 2013, 10:01:18 PM
The value of each crypto coin will ultimately be determined by the number of transaction we see in the system so it's important to get stores using them to get them in circulation.

Eventually the only reward will be the transaction fee, which currently many mining pools do not share with their miners which sux!
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools
1011  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why is bitcoin supply curve as it is? on: November 12, 2013, 09:42:22 PM
It's to get the technology to evolve to a point where it can the most efficient it can be.

If it was a straight line we'd all still be doing it with a PC like Litecoin.


Litecoin has block reward halving every 4 years as well, but not even FPGA yet. I believe to get the technology to evolve it must be profitable, which Litecoin is not, so no FPGAs yet

Litecoin uses the Script algorithm, which makes heavy use of memory, to keep it on PCs and stop people gaining a mining advantage by using FPGAs/ASICS. They compensated for this by making the blocks easier to solve which strangely makes a 51% attack less likely.
1012  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why is bitcoin supply curve as it is? on: November 12, 2013, 09:32:58 PM
It's a natural result of log math (when you find something, there are less left to find, so it gets harder)

but I always suspect it's to get the technology to evolve to a point where it can the most efficient it can be.

If it was a straight line we'd all still be doing it with a PC like Litecoin.
1013  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A couple questions on: November 12, 2013, 07:36:32 PM
This is a perfect example of how Bitcoin isn't backed by nothing, as some claim, it is backed by the transaction cost (computing power + electricity).

All you can do when collecting Bitcoin dust is wait for the price to rise to make it viable to spend.

Never mix dust with you main Bitcoin wallet keep it in a separate wallet.
1014  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin community is wacko, cultist, fun, but flim-flam, agreed? on: November 12, 2013, 07:17:03 PM
I voted "no they're for real", I'm in it for an alternative to the banking elite's debt system.

It's a monetary revolution, like MP3 was for music, or the Internet was for publishing.

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” - Mahatma Gandhi
1015  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitmit? on: November 12, 2013, 07:09:22 PM
They don't say, but smells like the buyout of QXL by Naspers who re-branded it Tradus.
They specialize in doing eBay in countries eBay doesn't support. They would be ideal customers for Bitcoins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradus
1016  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where does all the computation power go? on: November 12, 2013, 06:52:19 PM
Current Network Hashrate = 50,841.36 PetaFLOPS

http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/

It's being used to provide currency encryption beyond what any nation state can break.

For comparison..

2013    China NUDT Tianhe-2 33.86 PFLOPS
2012    USA Cray Titan 17.59 PFLOPS
2011    Japan Fujitsu K computer 10.51 PFLOPS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercomputer

Most of it is specialized in SHA256 hashing now though, it's not general computing power anymore.
1017  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow announces 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.49/Ghash on: November 12, 2013, 06:34:37 PM
So Black Arrow is only accepting Bitcoin for payment?

Bank Transfer, Western Union, Moneygram and Bitcoin

All one way transactions with no charge back.
1018  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow announces 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.49/Ghash on: November 12, 2013, 05:34:24 PM
Pre-ordering can be used as a way to run an arbitrage scam where someone takes Bitcoins, claim to be developing a product, then after the Bitcoins rise in value, cancel the project and refund in dollars, pocketing the difference.

If you won't take escrow, credit cards, or paypal it's gonna smell like a scam to many people.  Roll Eyes
1019  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: UK tax position on Bitcoins gained through mining? on: November 12, 2013, 02:38:45 PM

PS Manchester Tax office calling back to clarify in the next three days

I would very much like to know what they have to say and what exactly they classify Bitcoin as currently.

It's something I've been curious as to as well, like lets say I generate Bitcoins for free (well almost free, time invested), then sell them to a private individual directly, does that come under capital gains, or just standard income or what?.  And if Bitcoins do get officially designated as money or currency here in the UK, does simply owning Bitcoins become taxable? or is it still only at the point of selling them for pounds that it does?.

I'm not sure about the UK, but in the US they have set a legal president...

S.E.C. has proved Bitcoin is commodity money (like gold) in the Texas court case S.E.C verses Trendon Shavers (Pirateat40)
http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370539730583#.Un-nYiejN3U
1020  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ok imm confused on: November 12, 2013, 02:06:35 PM
Slush pool = "Score - Score based system: a proportional reward, but weighed by time submitted. Each submitted share is worth more in the function of time t since start of current round. For each share score is updated by: score += exp(t/C). This makes later shares worth much more than earlier shares, thus the miner's score quickly diminishes when they stop mining on the pool. Rewards are calculated proportionally to scores (and not to shares). (at slush's pool C=300 seconds, and every hour scores are normalized)"

You need to look at how your mining pool pays per share of work. Some methods are not good for the small hobby miner or someone who canot leave their machine on 24x7.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools
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