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10141  Other / Serious discussion / Re: 12 Coronavirus Autopsy Cases Reveal TRUTH About How Coronavirus Patients Dying on: September 27, 2020, 10:48:33 AM
try looking at NHS websites
in 30 seconds i found 2 studies..
one done using deaths between feb-april
and another from feb-august

where it was 3-4% of people died with no co-morbidities (many hundreds of people(atleast 1300))

so as others suggest. i think its your inability to use google. or avoiding actually getting results that make you not find it

so just actually try finding the data instead of lame excuses to avoid it
If 3-4% people with no co-morbidities died, this means the number of people that died this way are not much if compared to people that have other disease before contacting corona virus.

3+4 = 7
7 ÷ 2 = 3.5
100 - 3.5 = 96.5

Cross multiply
3.5   = 13000
96.5 = x

3.5x = 1,254,500

X =  368970 people = people that died with co-morbidities, if assumed 13000 people died with no co-morbidities.

Which means people that wouldn't have died if healthy would have reduced.

its over 1,300. not over 13,000 that had no other morbitites apart from covid symptomology
this alone debunks jetcashs ignorance that he thinks there are no deaths related to only covid and nothing but covid
making the total deaths in the march-august period of the report as being ~38k-39k..

but here is the thing. if you have other morbitities like heart issues, diabetes, imuno surpressed and kidney issues. then ofcourse a virus will strain those things and cause your death where if you were not sick due to covid you would survive. so ofcoure comorbitidies increase risk of death and covid is the trigger of deaths.
but to try to twist this into thinking if someone only had a fever and was breathing fine and then had a unrelated heart attack due to touching an electric fense. this would not be a covid death. because your symptoms were not ARDS

here is the thing though
new recording policy cuts off a few actual covid deaths. by having a 28 day cut off. if someone is in hospital with covid symptoms(not car accident/electric fence accident) and they go through the whole intensive care process of ARDS and succumb to the virus after 6 weeks. they are not classed as a covid death.
i find this stupid because many people that die due to covid known symptoms actually take longer then 28 days to die

people dont get covid and just drop down dead a week later. their body actually has to suffer for a long while. if you have a super high viral load then yes you can die sooner due to the mess thats happening in your lungs, but this suffernt can actually last quite awhile such as literally drowning on the imflammatory fluid(cytokine storm/imflammatory overload). or the lack of oxygen due to the bloodclots from the virus causing cell damage(pulmonary fibrosis) blocking the air passages. but people also die from a imflammatory overload then affecting other organs by straining them to the point they can no longer function. (heart kidney/bone marrow)
other things like the blood clots then getting into your bloodstream and going to other parts. causing things like strokes and organ failure.
also the amount of 'puss' in your blood(antibodies) can cause sticky blood that also drains your system and can cause blood clots and organ failure
other things like the strain on antibody creation can drain your bone marrow function.
the list goes on

the BBC actually triggered some of this nonsense about 'car accident is covid death' by having an example someone tested positive in march and recovered. then having a car accident in july would be classed as a covid death.. this is not true.
first doctors report the actual cause of death. which would be impact trauma. thus not even be in the category to be treated as a covid death.
second, the cut off date to include covid as a significant attribute to any death is 28 days. meaning a march test and a july death. covid would not even appear on the death certificate as a factor(4 month gap)

NHS actually go by actual cause of death. its the ONS(office of national statistics) tally that is more lax about its categories. the government and media do not use the ONS data for its daily reports.

the NHS are now going to start using 60day as the cut off which is more fair. and they will continue to be accurate about the 'cause of death' and not be lax.
there are actual penalties to iie on a death certificate. not only can doctors be struck off internally though their own processes but families can sue the hospital for false reporting which can affect the doctor

the ONS doesnt have this scrutiny which is why the ONS can be more lax. and thats why the government doesnt concentrate much on ONS data

here is the wake up kick in the ass.
if random caused deaths of non covid symptoms was classed as covid death. then you would see the numbers of 'non covid' deaths decline alot below the 5-10 year average death ounts
but the actual reasuts show the other cause deaths have not declined. but has shown that the excess mortality of all causes has risen. which means there actually is a event of excess deaths that is special to this year and no other year average. meaning. covid is actually killing an excess amount of people

if you want to carry on with the stupidity that other cause deaths are classed wrongly as covid. how about show me the decline in non covid deaths to an amount that can account to be the covid deaths... here is a hint to save you time. you wont find it
10142  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Preventing identity cloning in security on: September 27, 2020, 09:36:15 AM
i know this topic is just a subtle crapcoin advert

but there is no point even classing it as a useful coin until its actually useful.
so instead of promoting to users how they should invest and put their identity on it and say how securing their identity is important. how about get some actual businesses to adopt if first where they advertise people can 'sign up' to their secure system

...
crap coins never prosper because they spend all their time just trying to get users to buy crapcoins and not even bother getting business partners to actually adopt the 'service' the crap coin meant to offer
10143  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Future of Blockchain in the next 5-10 years. on: September 27, 2020, 02:40:27 AM
IOTA didnt take off because it was mainly media hype of investment into IOTA but not much business meeting with device manufacturers to actually get it implemented(no mainsteam device plan)

manufacturers didnt take meetings with IOTA much. instead they wanted to take the open source code and use their own employees to develop their own systems away and not involving IOTA

the guy above advertising 'concordia' suffers the same problem. wasting time advertising another PoS coin for investment and throwing in a few buzzwords people want to see. but absolutely no detail/content of who/what manufacturers/businesses they have partnerships with or in negotiations with future businesses

and thats how these crapcoins always fail
over promising the offer but not following through with any promise

...
so here is my idea of the next 5-10 years
manufacturers will have their own systems that then can interconnect to some master 'reserve' blockchain. this is what the hyperledger project was aiming for.
10144  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thoughts on Trump's UN speech? on: September 27, 2020, 02:32:39 AM
If anyone missed it, here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAy1nC9BJA0

Do you agree that the world should hold China accountable? Or, is his speech a little too harsh?

Even though that speech was little bit harsh there is no denial on those statements he mentioned, China locked themselves but allowed people to fly other countries and WHO also helped with the spread of virus in the initial stage by just agreeing the words of China and give it as guideline to all the other countries.

um.. no
china reacted the very week they had their first patient with a odd symptomology.
china informed WHO the day china knew what the cause was.
because there were only a few cause in december and they didnt know the cause yet or if it was just a local poisoning they didnt want to raise an international alarm. but as soon as they knew it would be a spreadable thing WHO was told. and WHO then told everyone else
remember even on january 5th there had not been a single death yet. so sharing a warning before anyone actually died. is actually very reactive and fast response

yet in feb-march-april america demanded its people to be taken out of china and other places and brought back to america.

australia done a good job because on february1st australia banned any foreigners from entering australia.
but UK/US were still letting them in

china were not sending out their people on chinese planes. instead it was US/UK flights letting anyone one that bought a ticket
it was only in march that US/UK then dedicated the fights for only US/UK citizens.

this is why australia coped better than us/uk
10145  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Learn something positive from COVID-19 on: September 27, 2020, 02:10:20 AM
i used to laugh at the conspiracy guys that hoarded food for doomsday (aka doomsday preppers)
but this year i learned to hoard a month of supplies. in march i 'prepped' and every fortnight i got my fortnights worth plus an extra 3 days of food. so each month i acumilated an extra 6 days of food at a negligable extra cost to my usual spending habits

6 months on im now at over 2 months of food store.

if neighbours have issues with getting food deliveries i happily give them a few days of essentials, no questions asked no cost to them. just to give them a few days of relaxation to organise other ways for them to get their situation sorted

in my area of the UK supermarket deliveries are starting to get iffy again. they are having missing/unavailable or substituted items. talking to the delivery guys they are seeing a rise in demand for not jst produce per order but also the amount of orders happening

so some positive things to learn is if you cant afford to buy a month worth in one go. just try to add a lil extra than normal to your normal shopping list. and build on that to have enough to survive a 2 week isolation period or more if a total lockdown occurs and you cant travel to supermarket yourself for months
10146  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Tax Avoidance: Shrewd Smart Businessman or Deserves Jail Time? on: September 27, 2020, 01:49:34 AM
the business trick to spread the losses. is loans
by spreading a debt over 10 years. means each year you get to be in the minus for 10 years

but normal people dont get the same 'tax deductables' that businesses get. so while working in an office job or retail job (normal working class wages) you cant deduct the same things a business owner can for their lifestyle needs

working class peopel cannot spread loans as a 'income deductable' every year. which is another reason working class dont take out the same large loans as business owners do

yep
if your a business owner you pay tax on whats left after costs are handled
if you a working class person you pay tax on the income before costs are handled. meaning you then have to cover the costs with whats left after tax

many people try to create their own loopholes by creating dummy businesses or trusts. to pay the business/trust the income. handle all their costs and then and only then declare any profit/loss

but its not easy to do this and get away with it if your working class because employers are forced to try paying wages into the employees personal account and not other accounts in other names

..
another great tax deductable rich people use. is 'charitable foundations' yep the bill and malinda gates foundation. the clinton foundation. the trump foundation is so they can put their personal income into the foundation. pay no tax and then live off of the spending from the foundation

i know spendulus doesnt want to hear bad news being talked about trump. but when you see what he done with the funds in the trump foundation. he might rethink how loyalty/devotion to trump
10147  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Learn something positive from COVID-19 on: September 26, 2020, 02:17:37 PM
COVID-19 have no sect because it is affecting each and everyone like every class, every citizen, every religion, every rich and poor. So learn something from here that we all are equal.

Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. People with money are often able to work from home in comfort, with indoor and outdoor space and no loss of earnings. Compare with say a city centre cleaner who lives in a tower block - they can't get away from other people, have no outdoor space, little indoor space, and have either lost all earnings or else have to risk crowded public transport every day.

and this is why rich people. whisper nonsense into crazy conspiracy theorists ears. to prompt the conspiracy cults to coerce the poor into protests and risking their lives.

yep when conspiracy idiots realise they are the puppet of the groups they pretend to hate. they start to see the hypocrisy of the scripts they spout out

do they realise when they tell people to go out into crowds and do 'infection parties' to intentionally make themselves sick. they are actually jsut being duped into harming themselves purely because someone above them tod them to.
inshort: puppets

take badecker promoting the rich people like mitkovits and cahil. they are not people that worked hard to get their roles. heck they get paid huge money for doing public speaking events. and all they talk about is things that if done. can harm people.. and yet badecker and other conspiracy idiots cant grasp what the people they promote are actually asking of them
so badecker. if you hear a video use words that tell people to do things. knowin that those things can cause harm, either by arrest or health risk. ask yourself what might their hidden agenda be.

heres another hypocriicalt conspiracy that idiots dont realise the hidden agenda
avoid having a once a year single dose of 10 droplets of chemical. instead buy in bulk lots of chemicals we call supplements. have them daily and get everyone to buy buy buy
10148  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thoughts on Trump's UN speech? on: September 26, 2020, 12:22:13 PM
other stupid stuf is blaming china for the manufacturing shift from US to china
sorry but american business owners choose to move their production to china because american business owners are not getting a good deal within the US

trumps other stupidity is that he has raised alot from chinese tarrifs.
the problem is.. if anyone has ever bought anything from china. we buy it cheap from china. but.. heres the thing WE then end up payig the 'customs tax' just to receive the goods.
meaning trump/UK gov(my case) are penalising our own citizens. not the chinese

but even with that said. i had to buy a bitcoin miner and had to pay the customs. but its still cheaper than any hope of an american company offering a bitcoin miner.
i also had to get a HD LED protector lamp. again still cheaper to get from china even after paying fee's
i paid my postoffice that put that money into my countries treasury..
china didnt not pay any money into the treasury. i did.

just think about this point also
a hours wage or a loaf of bread in china seems low when giving it a $ value. purely and solely because the US dont want to show china as having a bigger economy than the US
so america have to live with the fact to hide that america is not a super power like they pretend. they have to accept the consequence of people benefiting from the exchange rate as the consequence to their number games of pretending america is mightier

if trump actually done something. like actually value china like-for-like using hours labour and loaves of bread being valued at american prices instead of 10x less. then by sorting the exchange rate to be equal. they can actually make businesses want to stay in america because there is no benefit of moving manufacturing to china
10149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin’s Energy Consumption Grows, Now Comparable to Czech Republic on: September 26, 2020, 11:57:56 AM
last year bitcoin hastrate was at 100exa .. using tech that was the s9 that was 80j/th
this year its 140exa using tech thats the s19 which is 30j/th

simple math
100e * 80j =8000
140e * 30j=3600

so we are using less energy than last year by more then 50%
enjoy

p.s this halving of the electric cost has made it still profitable to mine at a now halved bitcoin reward which is why the price of bitcoin has not doubled in price since the halving. because there is no need to force the price up if its profitable at existant levels
10150  Other / Archival / Re: Vulnerability in Lightning Network on: September 26, 2020, 11:48:51 AM
and many people are seeing the flaws with LN
there was a reason why bitcoin became a think in 2009+. because other payment methods that dont use a blockchain have flaws by default

there are many many flaws in LN. even in the basic features that have been around since the start, flaws still exist

do not think its just new stuff you have to be careful of. be careful of all parts of LN

as the screen shot twitter notes show its not just a block channels with near 500 payments
but also looping a payment through the same route can block them up

remember its not just channel numbers. but also amounts the people along the route have available to route
if 10 people on a route only have 100million millisats they allow to be uable for routes.
even without 'channel limits' people can just loops a payment in a circular route though those 10 people multiple times. very cheaply


other flaws are that payments are not regulated by the wider network. this 'privacy feature' is actually a security flaw because channel partners can modify certain things. this happens if factories/watchtowers ask customers to use a specific app to open a administered channel with their service. they can defraud their customers(yep it happens)

so dont just think its one flaw thats just happened. there are many many flaws. and im just saying the ones that have been known for a while and still a risk.

some flaws are secretly known and hoping devs fix them for the security of users. but some flaws even after months have not been fixed. so again dont hope that its just a temporary thing that will be fixed straight away. some flaws cant be fixed. so watch out

some flaws people think only happen to naive users that dont know how the software works. but even the lead devs of LN have lost funds due to flaws.

so just be careful and stop listening to the LN promoters that talk about it as if its as good as bitcoin. its not
bitcoin has many built in security features from day one. and thats what made it so unique
LN is open to thousands of flaws and they have to try filling those holes
thus the complete different security model of finance
so again for emphasis stop listening to LN promoters that want to pretend that LN is secure and safe. they are thinking more about their wallet filling up. not about users personal security/wallets emptying
10151  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thoughts on Trump's UN speech? on: September 25, 2020, 09:44:07 PM
the CDC said if was spreadable in january........ but trump did nothing until march.....
trump loses argument

as for other blames towards china
china shut down its border promptly and grounded its planes in january. made hospitals by february

trump had to make an order HIMSELF to organise repatriation flights to get americans out of china because china wasnt sending them(china were trying to keep it from spreading)
trump however also did not then do any self isolation or track and trace on those repatriates when they got to america.
trump also didnt do anything precautionary until march..

so while people try to spread myths about it being a man made plan to release a virus into a wetmarket(sorry it wasnt) but while idiots try to push that myth. the facts that china closed borders and stopped the spread at their end. and trump override that precaution.. is all on trump.. not china

the reason UK government is not pushing the blame china game is because UK government realise their mistakes of doing repatriation flights

it would have been far cheaper to just give 50,000 americans an extended vacation in china. fully paid. than to have just brought them back to america and set them free to spread it
10152  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Even More Support for Covid as Engineered Financial Reset on: September 25, 2020, 09:38:24 PM
here is a big hyperthetical

imagine it was man made and released to a wetmarket and then spread.


now lets add in the facts
from the 18th of december to the 29th china done all it could to control the spread. by the 29th they only had a dozen cases and only just identified its not a normal pathogen on a season.
they actually locked down their borders promptly.

heres the kicker and another fact
while china grounded all its flights and stoppe americans getting out of china to keep it under control. trump actually made an order to send american flights into china to get its people and bring them to america
these are called repatriation flights.
yep it was trump that brought it to the US

so have fun trying to twist the actual facts. even if you can try to persuade people to say its man made. the facts that repatriation flights were an actual thing. makes trump accountable for how it spread to america

also the lack of track and trace/self isolation of those 'repatriates' the lack of any action until march. are all faults on trump

have fun
10153  Other / Off-topic / Re: Check Your lifestyle to get a longer life like Japanese people did on: September 25, 2020, 07:03:53 PM
the two countries with highest life expectancy is monaco and japan

food is based on non processed foods. predominantly fish, fruit and veg
also the lifestyle of people when they were below 60 (40 years ago) was not office working/sitting on asses lifestyle. it was manual labour but not excessive.

working 12 hours a day until your back aches and you fall down in exhaustion and then binge on alot of food in one go is not the way
regular breaks regular meals but staying active are key
10154  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CDC has lost it as it says corona doesn’t spread through air. on: September 25, 2020, 05:22:33 PM
i only needed to watch 2 minutes of the video badecker linked and found 3 things mentioned that are wrong

1. the reason the hospitalisations vs infections is low is because
a. they are doing more testing on people without symptoms to include asymptomatic people now.
    in march/april/may they only wanted people with symptoms to ask for a test.
b. they are doing more tests then before. so while it appears that cases are going up higher and faster then march and the government has not done another full lockdown yet. its because they only done a full lockdown before when it started overwhelming hospitals. so the important number is the hospitalisation rate. which is starting to rise now
c. by socially distancing and wearing masks the viral load a person gets when infected is far less than in march situation. so less are getting high viral load and thus thus also causes the difference to the hospitalisation/case confirmed numbers

meaning the lockdown and precautions have done their job of reducing hospitalisation numbers and risk.
however cases are going up and hospitalisations are starting to go up because people are starting to ignore the precautions

2. the reason why deaths decreased in may/june/july is because of the precautions doing their job to 'curb the peak'
if there were no precautions then the deaths would have been lower. as proven by the now relaxed rules causing case rises.
if there was no distance/mask policy the numbers would be worse

so when the video suggests that the numbers NOW are low. its because of the precautions.

wake up and realise the reality of things.
those telling you not to reduce your risk are people that want to harm other people
10155  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CDC has lost it as it says corona doesn’t spread through air. on: September 24, 2020, 11:31:48 PM
the high viral load risk was the 6foot 15 minute thing

the further you are and the less time the less risk
EG 15 minutes at 6foot they say is the same risk as 30minutes at 12feet(not exact science/math.)

anyone that lives with a heavy smoker knows that the exhaled tar stains dont just sit within 2metres of the smokers favourite sitting spot. it reaches the walls and ceiling and even gets into other rooms as time passes

if you live with a smoker and you are in another room and you can smell when they spark up another cigarette, then obviously the airflow spreads further then 2metres

if you can smell someones fart or smelly feet further than 2 metres. then you know particles can move further then 2 metres(also please get then to change their socks)

but ofcourse its less concentrated the further you are. and the less time your in that area the less your inhaling

in short. your not immune/immortal if you stand 2.1m away for 14m:30s

the advice on the CDC was mostly about the 2metre rule for high risk high viral load inhalation.. but now they are extending that rule. yep the CDC has said its transfered by air but now they are expanding the distance/time.

many countries wanted to reduce the limit to 1 metre. but this was for economical reasons not health reasons.
and it seems the CDC are now going with health risk awareness and no longer being persuaded by economical effects the advice might cause if being to detailed about risks

as for aljazeera saying CDC removed airborne transmisson as being a factor.. um sorry they didnt. they said it was airborne befere and still say it now. they just now identify that it can spread further then 2metres
10156  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Sued By Trump: Donald Sued By Niece Mary on: September 24, 2020, 11:09:15 PM
and what does this teach people
if you want to transfer wealth between relatives tax free. treat it as a loan with a no repayment terms.
this is legal

..
also legal
'the grift' having a supplier that has one price but offering invoices for a higher price to your customer. this after all is what wholesale<>retail / dropship<>ebay / contractors<>subcontractors do.

if you didnt research the true value of products services and you agreed to pay the prices invoiced to you by the middleman. then thats your fault.

i dont like trump but his financial advisors do know the loop holes well

the bit i dont agree with is the threats of bankruptcy and the withdrawal of healthcare insurance.. thats just bad on all human levels
10157  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Even More Support for Covid as Engineered Financial Reset on: September 24, 2020, 03:52:52 PM
the flaws of that doctor. is that the doctor 'feels' and suggests' that the chances of a single animal having both varients at the same time and still live long enough to spread the mutation is small

..
well the thing about nature is when dealing with millions of pangolins in nature. inter mingling in different nests  it only takes 1 in a million

its not like there was only 1 pangolin that had mutations. in nature there are millions of animals cross infecting each other. offering millions of oppertunities for one varient to be different enough to be a nasty varient.. and yep it happened

..
want a prime example
college freshers get 'freshers flu' where they mingle with new people and cross contaminate with others weak affecting nasties. but because there are a few varients around they mount up and make symptoms worse by having to handle more then one flu at a time. yep its an actual thing and yep its common

..
the doctor writes as if one pangolin must have been infected by 2 viruses. and its all dependant on that one pangolin.
never actually showing the reality that millions of pangolins are infected, meaning a few thousand with multiple infections, meaning dozens with a noticable mutation and then 1 that got into the hands of a wetmarket farmer

whats next. is she gonna denounce the possibility of a african person with green eyes as being natural. and say that it must be some cyborg made in a lab.
sorry but nature actually surprises you. and if you can grasp the amount of randomness of nature you can start to grasp that nature is not always friendly

i know she wants to paint a picture that the odds are a million to one..
but what she is not saying is that yep its not happening to all animals every day. but the odds are every 10-15 years there is going to be a mutation of a virus that is gonna harm

cow, bird, swine and now pangolin.. who knows what animal is next..
oh and remember that cows and chickens and pigs now have vaccines and antibiotics to prevent them spreading their viruses into humans. so next time you eat a wild deer or any other wild animal.. think about the odds

.. the problem with conspiracy tinfoil hatter is that they cannot grasp the complexity and randomness of nature so they try to ignore understanding nature and instead try finding a fo to blame it on. so they blame some entity. like a god or a government or a lab tech
10158  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Your challenges will go away soon, don't worry too much on: September 23, 2020, 10:51:03 AM
the secret to completing a challenge. is to stop calling it a challenge.
treat everything as a game.
i know people that struggle to walk and they felt it was a challenge to walk down roadside path without pain.
i then set them a game.
i pointed out markers along the road such as a bush, a tree, a signpost. and i said dont just aim for the end of the road destination. just aim for the first marker. just get there nice and easy. thats all that matters for now.
they did it and it was less stressfull less overwhelming and they were more accepting to try.
then the next marker, then the next

so if you think there is something that is challenging dont think of only achieving the destination or thinking you only have one attempt at doing it.

break it down into smaller parts and know you can make many attempts until you get them all right.

if you want a certain career. do not set the hard path of just beginning and destination. and thinking you got one chance. realise that if you break it down to certain smaller parts and realise if you fell one aspect. you can always take a small break and then try again. knowing that yea it might take a lil longer. but eventually you will get to complete the goal you want

there is more then one way to get success so dont get fixated on one path, one direction, one result
10159  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The second hand clothes market is booming. on: September 22, 2020, 04:39:41 PM
simple cause/effect is the lack of oppertunity to do face to face sale via (UK: carboot sales / US: garage sales)

people are doing it more from home
the downside is what usually costs them just £$5 for a 'pitch' now costs the £$3 an item in delivery fees's so more costly to both buyer and seller

when you can get a simple tshirt for £$2 from asda/walmart.. why would you buy secondhanda shirt for £$5 online, not knowing if it wil fit or what state it actually is in

its a gimmick to think you can 'get rich' via online trading via only a few spare second hand shirts. but sory its not a good income stream
10160  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Climatic changes leading to thawing of permafrost in Seberia on: September 22, 2020, 04:19:25 PM
Temperatures in like 1870 or before the industrial revolution are more like what "should be".

im sorry. but 1800-1900 england had the london thames frost fairs (river froze over) and ireland had the potato blight

so forgive me for saying this but england had good harvests during the middle ages and then in the 18-19th century of smoggy london industry .. it got colder....

I find it a bit curious that people and organizations that claim to have science backing them, who want to take control of carbon emissions away from the populations, cannot clearly and simply tell us what temperature they would set the Earth to, if they were given that power.

How are we to know they are not just some Marxist con artists that just want the power?

best way to know is to actually test their theories
global warming term has flaws because its based on averages where each indicator that makes up the averages has some fault tolerance/error allowances. which can cause issues
also some places are getting colder so its not the whole globe actually warming up equally by 1oc. because some places are getting colder than 1oc

i prefer the term climate change term because different area's have different climates and each of them change in their own way.

once getting to that concept you can then start to work on the individual issues of each climate that distort each regions results

the RAIN forest has a purposeful reason for its name.. emphasis the rain.
science keeps talking about carbon absorbtion. and saying deforestation affects carbon. but the actual % of world carbon absorbtion shows the rain forest doesnt absorb that much over all

they estimate that rainforests equate to 2bill tonnes
the world absorbs 40bill tones(so rain forest is 5%)
however the atmosphere has 750billtonnes
thus the rain forests 2bill is only handling 0.26% of all atmosphere carbon
so shouting 'rainforests rainforest rainforests' wont change the atmospheric composition of carbon very much
double the amount of trees the rainforest has will only impact 0.26% extra absorbtion


rain forests do other great things. they change the temperature balance of the area to make it rain more. yep rain .. ill say it again rain.
the rain then runs through the ground to then have that nice thin layer to be evaporated easily from the ground around it and from the foliage.

but less water= higher temperature=less water=higher temperature
=drought on lower land thats no longer fueled by rainforest water sources. thus more land dries thus higher temperature

deforestation of rainforest and taking natural water cycle away and then only feeding the land with only just enough man piped sourced water to just feed the plant foliege of the farm and not the ground. doesnt help the situation

many places in america have seen their old rivers dammed up so farmers can no longer use old style stream/river/canal irrigated water. and instead rely on reservoir piped water which they ration out.
they also strart digging wells undergroond to get the underground aquifer water. but some places in america are drying out those sources too.
american farmers are finding less and less 'fertile' plots of land due to their own actions of rationing water/changing natural water cycle


when people say carbon makes temperature higher makes water dry out .. the actual equation is
diverting the water makes temperature rise

take the colorado river..
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In its natural state, the river flowed all the way from the high plains of the Western U.S. to the Gulf of California in Mexico. But because it is so heavily tapped along the way for agriculture, industry, and municipal uses, it rarely reaches the ocean anymore. For a few short weeks in 2014, the U.S. and Mexico cooperated, allowing the waters to reach the ocean. An effort is underway to restore the flow permanently, but is unlikely to be implemented soon.
not one mention of carbon as the cause

california droughts are not called california smogs. its not like certain seaasons have high smog that causes temperature rise. its low water that causes temperature rise

once people recognise the actual causes of problems in their area and they do something about it. then they can change things.

EG we know in erope (mainly for gred of keeping low supply/high demand) they put in quota's to stop farmers farming as much. this has actually kind of helped not over farm some land. but the compensation they give should be allocated to let farmers plant mixed vegetation to refertilise the land. rather than leaving to to to go barren
reservoirs should collect some water. but not just hoard it because while keeping cooled /covered water in a reservoir. less water is evaporating for fresh supplies folowing seasons. thus they are slowly shooting themselves in the foot.

other things like using desalination plants to convert sea water into usable land /agriculture water
if they can afford to pipe whole cities for drinking/sewage pipes. then they can afford the opposite to pump in water from the ocean to cover the land they have made barren
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