pub 1024D/5EC948A1 2008-10-30 Fingerprint=DE4E FCA3 E1AB 9E41 CE96 CECB 18C0 9E86 5EC9 48A1 uid Satoshi Nakamoto < satoshin@gmx.com> sig sig 61B3DB0C 1995-09-16 __________ __________ Dade Murphy (Crash Override) < zerocool@dev.null> sig sig 5C5BF7A4 2001-03-23 __________ __________ John Titor sig sig3 5EC948A1 2008-10-30 __________ __________ [selfsig] sig sig E2513C30 2009-01-03 __________ __________ Bitcoin Jesus sig sig C40AC6B9 2009-01-03 __________ __________ Dustin D. Trammell < dtrammell@dustintrammell.com> sig sig 9F8F1989 2009-04-01 __________ __________ [] sig sig 04143362 2011-11-01 __________ __________ lzsaver < lzsaver@gmail.com> sig sig DAB591E7 2013-03-27 __________ __________ theymos <theymos+pgp@mm.st> sig sig 7480B161 2013-04-01 __________ __________ Dorian S Nakamoto < mtn_sssh@hotmail.com> <------- WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?sig sig F2E50027 2013-04-19 __________ __________ Antony Bailey < support@antonybailey.net> sig sig 2346C9A6 2013-05-10 __________ __________ Wladimir J. van der Laan < laanwj@gmail.com> sig sig FFDB1CCC 2013-07-01 __________ __________ [] sig sig F91975FE 2013-09-20 __________ __________ Cubaguy < cubaguy@gmail.com> sig sig 7471C2D0 2013-09-21 __________ __________ Harald Schilly < harald.schilly@gmail.com> sig sig1 67E4FA04 2013-10-12 __________ __________ Peter Todd < pete@petertodd.org> sig sig 7B536415 2014-03-06 __________ __________ Satoshi Nakamoto (Resident of California) < satoshin@gmx.com> sig sig 415AF4A3 2014-03-07 __________ __________ William Casarin < bill@casarin.me> sub 2048g/D6AAA69F 2008-10-30 sig sbind 5EC948A1 2008-10-30 __________ __________ [] Anyone can create a key with any name and email address they wish. They can then sign any other key, with any date they choose, and upload it to a keyserv without the knowledge of the original keyholder. I can create a key right now for "Our Lord Yeezus" and sign Satoshi's key. i pointed this out earlier but i wasn't exactly clear about what it meant. see that john titor signature with the date way in the past? that was just added and yes it means that people are fooling around and trying to confuse others. oh shit. April fool. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg5570931#msg5570931 |
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Mr. Dorian S. Nakamoto
WTF???
"Signed" on the 1st April, 2013! (Dates aren't reliable - they use the PC's time, and that can easily be manipulated). I believe there are also screenshots from only a day or so ago showing no Dorian... |
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I think him being out of the spotlight is a great thing. It helps keep the focus on the important thing, making BTC better. If a BTC Nakamoto came out in public then the focus would all be on him and I'm SURE the press would dig up some dirt on him, or why he did it, which would hurt Bitcoin.
Not just the press, but us as well - except not dirt, but hero-worship. You're absolutely right about focus: passing the buck to Satoshi shouldn't be an option, we need to take responsibility, and that - IMHO - is what decentralisation is all about. |
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Never seems to be near spot rate as quoted by bitcoinaverage.com
localbtcUSD, at least, seems to spike well above and below USD exchanges. You get a better deal, I assume, by being a party rather than a counterparty, i.e. by advertising your bid (instead of clicking on a "Buy bitcoins..." offer, you create a "Sell bitcoins [to me]" advertisement). Edit: (I assume localbitcoinGBP spikes as well, but I don't tend to follow GBP and there aren't that many GBP options at my usual haunt ( http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currency/GBP.html!) |
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Can recommend Localbitcoins.com
+1. I used Localbitcoins for the first time recently - couple of purchases (online, rather than in person), both went very smoothly (hooray for <2 hour bank transfers in the UK!). Localbitcoins handles escrow. I did my deals by picking from the "Buy bitcoins..." list; next time I'd maybe create a "Sell bitcoins..." advert, if I had the patience to wait for a seller (the prices tend to be slightly better that way, but obviously you then need to wait for a willing counterparty). |
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This future inflation rate is rather confusing since it is not exactly stable change rate. How can you determine future sudden change while the value and moment of change can't be predicted by trend or past changes in any way. Unless there is possibility for it.
I'm not sure I understand your question? We know when the changes will occur (well, we know how many blocks need to be generated before the block reward changes), and we know by how much the reward will change. We're currently at 289227 blocks and the reward is 25BTC; the graphs show that at 420000 blocks this will change to 12.5BTC. We don't know exactly when the 420000 blocks point will be reached, but the block reward changes roughly every four years. And, of course, as the point approaches we'll be able to it by monitoring the block count. |
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This is not good news... I hope the next chirp from Gavin isn't "I regret talking to the CIA and CFR and..."! Don't you know...loose lips sink ships!
Well he's had nearly three years to get over talking to the CIA... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6652.0 |
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If you don't use fiat, what are you exchanging? Bitcoins for...?
What? Are you serious? For goods and services, and if you must have a physical store of wealth gold and silver. Fiat is nothing more than modern day slavery. It is time for it to go the way of the dinosaur. They print it out of thin air with no finite level. With every dollar created $1.05 is owed to the banksters, thus ensuring debt slavery. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_VqX6J93kI think there's some confusion over "exchange" here. Generally when people say "exchange" in relation to Bitcoin (or other commodities/financial instruments/currencies etc) they mean a service that allows parties to trade - e.g. an FX exchange allows parties to trade, say, GBP for USD, a commodities exchange allows JPY for gold, USD for oil, etc. The exchange acts as an intermediary between the two parties. MtGox, btc-e and BitStamp are all exhanges, LocalBitcoins is an "over-the-counter" (OTC) platform (no exchange, one party deals directly with the other party, with LocalBitcoins providing little more than an advertising-and-escrow service). (I'm wildly generalising here, but you should get the idea). @CurbsideProphet - the above notwithstanding, alt coins! Random comment: I've *never* bought BTC on an exchange. I've traded on exchanges before (I was really bad at it, as I was when I tried FX trading before BTC trading) but actual purchases of BTC have all been OTC - either through bitcointalk or LocalBitcoins. I'm not sure I'd change this, particularly after watching MtGox slow demise. |
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it's already in UK the bitcoin cost only £70 not even £200 any more!!
That's MtGox, though - and the exchange has been closed for over three days, has applied for bankruptcy protection, etc. OTC, not exchange, but on LocalBitcoins the cheapest BTC is 346.37 GBP: https://localbitcoins.com/ |
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Which country do you think has the lowest chance of someone having their bank accounts seized like happened in Cyprus?
Well, countries with an offshore banking industry have the most to lose (in terms of reputation), so I'd start offshore. But even then there'll be variation - Switzerland has been pressurised by both the US and the EU, Singapore has been seen as safe but is now thought to be under EU pressure, etc (and I don't follow this as closely as I should, so don't pay too much attention to the countries I mention - they're pointers, not recommendations). Best advice I could give would be to (a) look at offshore options, (b) have multiple accounts in different jurisdictions (to spread risk), and (c) review your decisions periodically. Remember, too, that it'll depend on where you are resident - a bank in Luxembourg might be a good choice for a US resident, but less so for a EU national, and likewise (but reversed) for a Caribbean bank. And one (hopefully obvious!) option is to keep some of your wealth in Bitcoin, in several offline wallets backed up in multiple locations. It requires some work, but is arguably easier than opening and managing an offshore account. |
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You guys simple don't understand the benefits of having an ETF for Bitcoin. This would be HUGE. One, it would mean that Bitcoin has a small legal standing per the SEC since they approved the fund. Two, it would mean having options, futures, and derivatives. If you don't know why these are good for a "currency", do some Google research. It means companies can hedge their bets if they hold Bitcoins. Like airlines do for fuel so they are not subject to short term fluctuations.
That's probably why these companies already offer trading in BTC futures and options: https://icbit.se/http://options.traderush.com/d/en/bitcoin-mining/index.htmlhttp://lp.tradehits.net/pages/lp/lp_bitcoins.php(No connection with any of these companies, but I've been following the first for a while because I'm interested in derivatives). Until its regulated by a US authority or any sort of regulated trading authority it won't mean anything for the real money out there. I can't seem Amazon ever using any of those sites listed. I can see them using CBOE which is where the options would be listed for an ETF. Well, that's something else entirely, isn't it? It's not "you don't understand why derivatives would be beneficial", it's "I believe regulation is beneficial". It's a discussion about regulation, not an assumption about how much we need to use Google. For the record, I think chasing regulatory approval to attract "real money" is not a good call - I'd rather see organic growth and no government interference. |
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You guys simple don't understand the benefits of having an ETF for Bitcoin. This would be HUGE. One, it would mean that Bitcoin has a small legal standing per the SEC since they approved the fund. Two, it would mean having options, futures, and derivatives. If you don't know why these are good for a "currency", do some Google research. It means companies can hedge their bets if they hold Bitcoins. Like airlines do for fuel so they are not subject to short term fluctuations.
That's probably why these companies already offer trading in BTC futures and options: https://icbit.se/http://options.traderush.com/d/en/bitcoin-mining/index.htmlhttp://lp.tradehits.net/pages/lp/lp_bitcoins.php(No connection with any of these companies, but I've been following the first for a while because I'm interested in derivatives). |
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What I mean by "pointless" is that when you LOOSE money by mining.
If mining wasn't profitable for me I'd stop mining (which would reduce the hashrate a tiny amount). If enough miners felt the same then... Difficulty will be lowered, if hashrate drops.
(This is hypothetical, since I'm no longer a miner - I've stopped twice: once when it was no longer practical to mine with my CPU, and a second time when it was no longer profitable to mine with a GPU.) |
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Projects got in touch with me in response to this post - I'm delighted to say that we agreed a good price, everything went smoothly and the deal is now completed! It was a pleasure working with Projects. |
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Thanks guys, that's good to know - next time I sell I'll take a look at bitbargain and bitcoinfridge. (I'm part-way through selling them to Projects at the moment).
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I've not been active on this forum for well over a year - life got in the way and I kind of forgot about a stash of bitcoins I had until I was tidying up hard disk space over Christmas. So... I (re)discovered some bitcoins which I'd like to sell for UK Pounds. And I have no idea what's the best way to do it. In the past I've used Intersango, but they don't seem to have a "payments to UK banks" option currently available. I've also used direct deals with other forum users (I could probably dig out a "reference", but I do remember never getting organised with bitcoin-otc ratings). I have found https://bitbargain.co.uk but have no idea how quick/reliable/etc it is. So, I'm looking for recommendations. What do you recommend? (For the curious, it's 95 BTC, and I'd be prepared to sell smaller amounts). |
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So i've noticed that there is some Douche creating Lots and Lots of new accounts, And constantly makes simmilar threads related to buying PPusd with bitcoins, Everythread like this that i've seen, Has him talking to himself with Another account saying things like "thanks for the trade, Sent him the btc first"
Guys, When your gonna do buisness, Go look at the users "most recent posts", It should be pretty easy to pickout a scammer.
I've seen this Far too often and i went ona rage posting Useless BEWARE posts in all those threads, Needless to say they we're Appropriatly removed.
So, y'know, Be careful guys
I don't think "BEWARE" posts are useless at all - I've been doing the same with the "lastminer" scammer. It's a good idea to back it up with the "report to moderator" button, however - a scam post that's been deleted is better than a scam post with a warning attached :-) |
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Not to bug you, but I withdrew £15 yesterday and the status in my profile is "Finished" but the money isn't in my bank. I've made withdrawals before and when I see that they're 'Finished' I check by bank and the money's in there, but not today. I've already emailed you about this but I'm hoping that you'll be able to reply on here quicker.
It was a bank holiday yesterday - that probably affected it. I normally "bank" (sorry!) on it taking a couple of working days - I'd be expecting it later today or more likely tomorrow. |
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