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1041  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: If some country use DPI(deep packet Inspection )to block the BTC's peer-to-peer on: September 19, 2017, 10:17:23 PM
You can use over TOR that would avoid the block. If TOR was not blocked!

Tor is pretty hard to block. Even China is having a hard time doing it and they have thousands of people employed on trying to block all of the bridges. It will be even harder with IPv6 probably.

There are also Blockstream satellites by now that cover almost the whole world. Only Asia left, should be finished by the end of the year. These satellites freely broadcast the blockchain and you can by all of the equipment for like 100$.
1042  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Amerika true strategy is to prevent jews from returning to the temple mount! on: September 19, 2017, 09:38:30 PM
You have no idea... it's not because your perceive something to be an heresy that some don't take it very seriously.

I don't really understand what you said here. I personally don't perceive nothing as a heresy as I am an atheist, I couldn't care less. I am just concerned about people's lives, that is all.

When israel was created why america didn't include the temple? Wtf it's not like it was taking back what the muslims had stolen so what does difference would have it made? All the difference in the world otherwise they would have included it. So why wasn't it included?

I have to admit that I am not familiar with the exact temple issue. My claims were made on my understanding of American people and their government. I just think it is very far fetched to believe that they did something for clear religious reasons, maybe indirectly, but not directly for religious reasons.

As you can see if the goal is to divide the main land, america will do everything in it's power to stop the jews of having their temple back. However the shanghai crews backing isrealis can quickly make the perpetutators of this chock point change policy.

Because it asked the question is america the best friend of israel or its most nocive ennemy.

One good point, if they could, they would spread gmos inside israel. As if people lives had any values to them. Them, they only organic, they print fiat to buy it.

I am not familiar with the issue unfortunately. However, about he GMOs, that is just ridiculous. Only a person with low understanding and paranoia about science can be seriously concerned about GMOs. They are just an improvement on the crops, something people have been doing for thousands of years. It is just that our understanding of DNA increased so we speed up the selective breading process by directly choosing wanted traits. Little do you know is that without GMOs a world would be a lot worse. Not just that crops would take up more land and make food more expensive, but we wouldn't be able to create insulin with the GMO bacteria. GMO are a big part of human lives by now and are pretty well tested. They are here with the help of new technology, just like Bitcoin is.


From what I'm reading, Israel was an invention of the political Zionists, and for at least a segment of them the project is just a stepping stone to a larger end-goal.  Development of an Israeli  'Samson Option' (aka, a 'doomsday device') is a component.  Now they have it.  Logic indicates that most of Israel's 100's of nuclear weapons are targeting Western nations.  When Israel undergoes a controlled demolition these nukes will detonate on their targets and control of the planet will be passed to those who are prepared for the event and subsequent consolidation.


I would give an ultimatum to the muslims and start to nuke until they get it:

It s a hewish place of woreship, leave or die (be nuked).

I see this more often then it should be. People calling for use of nuclear weapons. There is a reason they weren't used ever since the second world war.
It is dangerous to even have people calling for it, more dangerous then people calling for Nazism to be back.
You don't understand the implications of it. World's superpowers have nuclear ICBMs aimed at each other and have automatic triggering systems. Russians more specifically, for them it is known. You fail to understand that if even one of the nuclear ICBMs get launched from one of the satellite watched sites, other countries can't and won't risk to be eradicated before they are able to attack back. The systems launch automatically before any target is even reached. And this response causes a chain reaction from other countries. There are no survivors in this scenario. No one can be prepared. If you don't die from the detonation you will die from the nuclear winter that will follow and kill all complex life on Earth. You can't eat if there is no sunlight for years. There is no oxygen if plants can't get sunlight to produce it. One launch and we could all be dead in a matter of minutes. There is enough nuclear weapons in this world to wipe all life on Earth 3 times over. Don't be insane. You don't understand the power of these weapons. Largest one ever detonated could be heard all around the world, 3 times, as the shock wave traveled an entire world around. This is the power of an atom, no God will save you from that.
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Electron Cash / Bitcoin Cash on: September 19, 2017, 09:02:08 PM
Hello,

For security reasons I want to verify the signature of the downloaded electron cash file. So I followed these instructions (https://www.linuxbabe.com/security/verify-pgp-signature-software-downloads-linux) but unfortunately on github there is no public key provided in form of an .asc file. Only this textfile:

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Can anybody explain me how to import the public key from this textfile?

If you are using GPG, then just "gpg --import <name of file>" should do it.
1044  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Amerika true strategy is to prevent jews from returning to the temple mount! on: September 19, 2017, 12:42:11 PM
This is why the wars got that bad.
Wars were always about money. Americans couldn't care less about any temple, as long as they get their money from oil.
People in middle east are more religious, so when they are attacked some of them are so much in their head about religion that they think it has something to do with it. Even people in Serbia thought it was about religion when NATO invaded, since they were more religious as well. And they are Christians, but they are Ortodox so there is some difference. Like American government gives any crap about it. Religion is just a fairy tale for most of them. They don't care. The others are too professional to let religion come in the way of business.
It is oil and strategic military dominance. That is what it is all about. Most couldn't care less about any religion or any other fairy tale.
Grow up.
1045  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Example transaction used OP_RETURN to store text message on: September 19, 2017, 12:22:56 PM
Here you go: https://blockchain.info/tx/d276abe15791941649c3ca8425d79167cc1cf801f83aa99753fe7f42740c0f23?show_adv=true
Look at the (decoded) part in the output script.
Another one: https://blockchain.info/tx/728e24b2e7dd137e574c433a8db08ac2aa0bf0588ad7716e4c5a7da45dbb5933?show_adv=true

I know that they aren't really impressive, but it is text.

I found this cool site for you: http://coinsecrets.org/

EDIT: Found a better one https://blockchain.info/tx/52dd20f60d6e14e5a783e7668cf410efdea40cd9a92479b0f2423d0bc63575fa?show_adv=true
1046  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Quick question about bitcoin qt on: September 19, 2017, 12:12:51 PM
How exactly were the transactions different?
You should also double check that you truly exported all the keys.
You could also rescan the old wallet to make sure that you got all the transactions on them.
1047  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: POS in BTC on: September 19, 2017, 11:39:05 AM
I thought when all the bitcoins that are possible to be mined are mined then it would go over to POS?

No. Miners are supposed to get revenue from the miner fees at that point.
1048  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: September 18, 2017, 01:07:54 PM
Aj posto su na benchu alegricni na ova pitanja pa da pitam ovde:koja je najpovoljnija opcija za izvlacenje novca iz kripto-a,cex pa na intesu karticu ili ima nesto povoljnije?
Da li bi radila kod nas pay(tnx) kartica posto vidim da je za eu ali ne pise nista za nas...

Mozes uvek da javis ovde da prodajes po srednjem kursu. To ti je najpovoljnije i najanonimnije.
1049  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ 777Coin Signature Campaign ★☆★ (Jr-Hero Accepted) on: September 18, 2017, 01:04:04 PM
I upgraded to Member rank on Tuesday last week. If possible I would like to upgrade from my Jr. Member position in this campaign as well.
I assume I don't need to reapply as I am already in the sheet.
1050  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin transaction help on: September 18, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
I then checked the information that the bitcoin node gives about that transaction with: bitcoin-cli gettransaction 4f299e7313af7e4e091ea519bbf5983526d18fe4765b679ce1827bd9f75dbaff

It would be good to understand what this command does. It only works for the in-wallet transactions and it doesn't show the input as it assumes you know it.

Here, it can be clearly seen that an amount of 0.06611392 BTC was sent from 12bFMAPz7dhKmLxsoipfUqmCCjqENCDzKb XBT address, to two different outputs. One of the output is the address, Blockchain.Info gave me to receive the Bitcoin. The other output is an address unknown to me.

So I started thinking: Am I correct, that when sending a bitcoin transaction, all of the amount from a specific address gets placed in the input, a part of it (the part which I specify) gets sent to the address I wish to send, and the rest gets transferred to a newly created address on the same wallet, from which the send operation was initiated?

You are correct. This is called change address. This is necessary due to the way transactions work. All the coins that aren't spent from an input are possible to be spent by someone else and since it is miners that ultimately add the transaction on the blockchain, they choose to take it themselves, this is what miner fee actually is. This way transactions are smaller and take less space in the blockchain as well.

Some other questions which arise to me: How is Blockchain.Info able to retrieve information from any kind of Bitcoin Transaction, while me, using a full Bitcoin Node, can only find transactions which was either initiated by the node, or which has a receiving address which is in the nodes wallet?

What you are looking for is two other commands. One command that can retrieve any transaction from the blockchain in hex and other that will decode that hex in a human readable format.

The first one is "getrawtransaction" and the second one is "decoderawtransaction". They will show you all the inputs and everything else in the transaction as well. "gettransaction" retrieves data from your wallet, as all the in-wallet transactions are stored in it as well, while these other two look for it in the whole blockchain.
1051  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A replacement Alert System should be considered to promote updates as necessary on: September 18, 2017, 11:33:52 AM
that would be pressuring users to upgrade to a new version which we want to avoid.

I don't see why that's a problem? If you've created and released better software, why wouldn't you want your users to update?

Core devs have a little bit of a different idea then you of what Bitcoin is. The whole premise of it is that Bitcoin is a stable and secure network.
There are plenty of coins with a lot of new features on a network and client level and Bitcoin will never be able to compete with that.

Instead, as the oldest cryptocurrency Bitcoin has been developing as the most stable and secure, where even small changes, like scaling issue, is very rigorously discussed. You can see that it took a lot of drama to implement a simple change and Core devs didn't even want a hard fork if they could go around it. That is why segwit is a soft fork and as a soft work, old clients don't need to upgrade.

Core celebrates the fact that it is the oldest coin and it respects that through not adding much change over time and instead focusing on improving and rigorously testing the already established features. Core wants Bitcoin to be cryptocurrency first and all the other features are completely unnecessary to it.
There are many of cryptocurrencies out there now, but Bitcoin is most developed, most adopted, most secure and most stable. That is what Bitcoin is in the eyes of Core team and a big user base behind it.
1052  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: POS in BTC on: September 18, 2017, 12:50:44 AM
Does anyone think BTC possibly switching to POS? How can it evaluate / score the stake factor?

There was already a thread about this few weeks ago. No, there will be no switch in Bitcoin to any other PoW algorithm let along PoS.
PoS is definitely not ready for Bitcoin and there is a very good chance it never will. It has to many security issues with it.
1053  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gender equality on: September 17, 2017, 02:41:30 PM
Here in the Philippines, there is a video that gone viral on social media, wherein a woman is abusing his partner(male) physically. The man is screaming sorry but the woman is still shouting words to him and continued slapping, punching and pulling his hair. (Take note that it happened in a jeepney where many people are also witnessing this). The people are just watching when the woman is hurting his partner but when the man had enough and punch the woman, the people in the jeepney quickly punch the guy.

I think gender equality will never happened if in the country this bounded to the culture. Undecided
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For example the average guy grows up fixing cars, building shit, etc and over time learns a lot of skills applicable to a lot of jobs.

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I haven't done any of those things and I know plenty of men that haven't either. But you did say average, even tho I think that is changing, I do agree.

No, and it has been never in reality even thousands of years. Both male and female are humans but they are very different psychologically, mentally, spiritually, emotionally, and physically. Even in high status countries those genders are not treated equally. In many places women are treated as slaves. Many people have such bad intentions that they think that women are only made to fulfill our sexual needs and thus they always play with their emotions and use them physically. It has been done in past and it is being done these days. Alas! It will be done in future.

I believe it will be a lot less common in the future. It is already decreasing. Nothing will ever be completely gone, but I believe that the vast majority will treat woman and man with the same respect and in some places that could already be the case.

Women are not treated equally in most of the countries (especially India and most muslim countries) and people make fun of feminism when it comes to their ego. While there are some countries where men too are not treated well if not equal. Some don't even try to understand what feminism actually means and they keep mocking it. Even today in India people feel that women are meant to do house work and not work in offices.

The law is the most important thing. If they are treated with equal legal rights, the rest will follow if it needs to be. As long as a woman is not forbidden to not abide by those rules, that should be fine in the long run, could be a bit hard in the short term, but nothing too serious. When you give women a right to vote, that is the biggest victory for feminism. Everything else follows, since they have the majority of votes. That is not enough for racism, because they are still a minority, but for women that is enough to deal with everything else peacefully.
1054  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think there is a chance of world peacefull coexistance ? on: September 17, 2017, 12:58:36 PM
we have limited resources == must start wars  != peacefull

Space is infinite my friend. We have all the resources that we will ever need. The only real danger to our existence is ourselves.
1055  Other / Meta / Re: Account comrpomised? on: September 17, 2017, 12:53:37 PM

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I personally use unique 65-100char passwords, so data breaches cannot touch me any more. Also a possiblity of keylogger is possible as well, or some kind of data leak.
you would be the luckiest person in the world to get 8 alphanumerics done in 12 rights.


You need help dude Cheesy
100 char password, wow...That is more then 512 bits of data. Servers don't even use hashes larger that 512 bits.
It would be more profitable for someone to just try to get a collision, then to actually guess a password.
Especially since they are unique, they would have no use of the password, just a random number that gives that hash.
1056  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: September 17, 2017, 12:46:13 PM
Zvuci vrlo interesanto, al zbog obaveza na zalost ovaj skup moram da preskocim  Sad
Nisu ni svi iz BGD, pa nebi bilo loše da neko snimi događaj i stavi na YouTube.

Stvarno nema nikakvu strukturu dogadjaj. Snimak od 5 sekundi bi ti savrseno objasnio kako izgleda svakih drugih 5 sekundi. A i tu ne bi nista video posebno. Samo ljudi pricaju jedni sa drugima. Udjes u kafic i cujes da svako prica o kriptovalutama, pa mozes da se priljucis gde god oces, svi pricaju samo nesto vezano za to. Imas besplatno pivo i to ti je to. Imas slike na datom linku od meetup-a, samo ljudi koji pricaju sa pivom na stolu. Neko prica, neko slusa, neko oboje po malo Cheesy
1057  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How to solve world hunger ? on: September 17, 2017, 12:39:10 PM
The only real solution is to reduce the population. Look at the countries which are facing famine and hunger. Most of them are located in the Sub Saharan Africa and the middle east, where the population growth is above 3% per year (i.e the population is doubling every 20 years). I am talking about countries such as Afghanistan, Yemen, Niger and Somalia. These nations need to practice population control.

Every country used to have a big growth in population. As the countries develop, this decreases. It is due to the rapid increase in medicine in their country. When they had children, chances of them never reaching adulthood were very high due to many diseases, so naturally this is counteracted with having more children. It is not a problem for starving since it is a self-correcting mechanism and the balance is always reached. The problem is in the irregularity in their food supply, so that either has to be fixed or they need to be provided to move at any time.

we have fixed number of resources so that we cant solve this problem

This couldn't be farther from the truth. Not only can we make a lot more food, but we already make a lot more food then we eat. A huge portion of food that is bought is thrown away in the developed countries, even tho they still eat more food than they should, let along need. The problem could be fixed by tomorrow if we really wanted to, it is just that we want to make sure that the solution is long term.

Though small-hold farmers produce the majority of the food we eat, they are also more vulnerable to factors beyond their control: climate change, failing seeds, volatile markets and infectious crop diseases. But a new peer-to-peer service, known as WeFarm, is using a simple form of social networking to help them stay informed

I don't see why you need a coin for that. Seems just like another useless altcoin. You can solve that with a simple facebook group if you really wanted to if the lack of information is the whole problem. You can use a decentralized social media software if you want to make it decentralized as well. No real need for a cryptocurrency.
1058  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Matching public key with directory.io - why so difficult? on: September 17, 2017, 01:04:29 AM
OK, this makes a bit more sense now. My "algorithm" for determining the key to use would make it more vulnerable to attack than a randomly generated key. But I still have an issue with this and it would be a really interesting study.

What's the greater risk?:

1) Using my method where it's a simple algorithm for me to remember the page number and location via a HUGE (and I mean HUGE) string of numbers - i.e. not your typical internet password. This wallet would exist in my head. Despite this, it's more vulnerable to attack because it doesn't have the entropy of a purely randomly generated number.

2) Using a randomly generated key which is less prone to attack, but is more easily forgotten or the details of which more easily lost. (This key would have to be stored somewhere physical, opening it up to being attacked in a way the first option wouldn't.)

I wonder what the figures are in terms of dollar value lost due to i) hacking ii) simply losing your private key.

I've already spoken to one guy who lost over 1000 bitcoin on a hard drive somewhere, and I bet most of you have heard similar stories. I would almost hazard that simple user clumsiness (i.e. option ii) is a greater threat to your wealth than being hacked.


Questions about security vs. accessibility have been plaguing the computer security industry for decades. In the end it is simply up to you to determine such risks for yourself, there is no formula that will answer it for you.

Although humans are notoriously bad at randomness, human minds are really good at seeing patterns, even when they are not there (like shapes in the clouds). You can use that to your advantage to generate a random password using a machine and then remember it by imagining patterns in the keys, pretending that the characters actually have some meaning. This will help you remember it.

Another way you could exploit a human mind is by obtaining muscle memory of your keys. All you need to do is type them regularly, even if it is on a detached keyboard, so it will stay in your "muscles". All my passwords exist only in my subconscious, they were randomly generated and they are long as hell, I have no idea what they are. This resulted in some loses of accounts and inability to type them on a phone keyboard, but as long as you have a physical copy as well, you should be fine. It is unlikely you would lose both at the same time.
1059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Short term investment on: September 16, 2017, 10:02:43 PM
I do some short term trading occasionally, but it's not something I am feeling comfortable with, unless the market is bouncing up and down within a certain range.

If there is no clear range pattern the market is moving in, then I am not going to bother with trading. I prefer to conservatively place smart buy and sell orders when the time is right, but it shouldn't end in a guessing game.

I started out as a pure hodler, but decided to allow myself to trade in afore mentioned circumstances. As we speak, I am still bullish long term wise, but the hard fork in November is what I am thinking about all the time.

Due to this hard fork, I don't expect the market to experience much upwards movement. I am perfectly fine with the market hovering between $3000-$4000 till we know whether or not we'll really see a hard fork gets initiated.


Whether or not we'll see a hard fork?
Are you kidding me? With almost 95%!!! of the miners signaling SW2x support you can bet your ass we will get a hard fork and chaos like we've never seen before.
A 95% incompatibility between the users and the miners... my God if anyone was waiting for double digit Bitcoin that will be it!
Core team effectively being fired from their job.
Core network will effectively come to a complete HALT!
SW2x network will not pick up where Core left off, they have a different agenda, they don't have user support, they don't have the market.

This is going to be one clusterfck of unearthly proportions.
The price will reflect this, hence i can guarantee (still open for the bet!) every single person here the Bitcoin price will plummet far under $1000 before November fork.


Haha! Amazing response Cheesy
Well, we will wait and see I guess. I just might withdraw from buying any Bitcoins then for a while, waiting for that couple of hundred per Bitcoin.
If China news affected the price, probably with the help of the natural correction, the fork will really make a mess.
Bitcoin is known to be volatile by nature and this really seem like something that never happened before.
The only question is how many users really support Core in this decision. It would be nice to see some statistics.
1060  Other / Meta / Re: Account comrpomised? on: September 16, 2017, 05:45:50 PM
1. I'm talking about the regular utility that comes with the factory install.
3. You can easily get past recaptcha many bots do it.

AOSP android does not have such a thing included, for privacy reasons, and you cannot access / with non-rooted device, so to me it seems like you don't really know what you are talking about.

Also you once again, just FUD around without sourcing. Talk is jusy talk, so unless you got a source, please do not talk about it. So far google has made a captcha software that is near impossible to break through, because it gets updated so often and bots are not smart enough to recognize different kind of signs, cars etc.

Well there are about 50 million unemployed Chinese, so I think captchas should be considered effectively broken.  Grin
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