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1081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 29, 2023, 11:44:58 PM
Dortmund’s performance in the UCL is way different from how they perform im the domestic league. In the UCL they seem to be one big demon but a shadow of themselves when they get to the league. But rating their overall performance I’ll rate it mid, because this Dortmund isn’t what we know them to be and they’ve been overtaken by the likes of Leverkusen and Stuttgart, I think they need to sit up and maintain consistency.
Can't deny that Dortmund's performance in the UCL is quite good but on the other hand in the Bundesliga, they are quite bad. But even in the UCL, we don't know whether Dortmund can be that good to maintain its performance and also advance to the next qualifiers. while the competition in the UCL is much tougher track from now on than in the Bundesliga itself it should be. But unfortunately, in the Bundesliga, Dortmund is currently only in 5th position, which incidentally only entered the Europe League. So, Dortmund must really be more optimal and not waste the various opportunities that exist so that they can immediately take over 4th position at least. Dortmund's performance is really in contrast to Leverkusen, which this season is really getting better and stronger.
1082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 29, 2023, 11:38:11 PM
If Juventus fails to win against Roma, it will indeed be difficult for Juve to catch Inter. because now the point difference is 4 points. and Inter will get points from the match against Genoa.
I hope Juventus can narrow the points gap with Inter. because that will make Serie A interesting until the end of the season. otherwise, Inter will dominate from now until the end of the season. because there is no other team that can catch Inter apart from the opportunity that Juventus has.
I believe Juventus will have a big motivation to win the match. Moreover, they know Inter Milan got a draw result, it is the time to shorten the point gap with Inter Milan. The match will be held in Juventus stadium as well, Juventus has the advantage to win the match. Considering some important matters, I am pretty sure that Juventus will succeed to beat AS Roma now. If Juventus get full points in the match, the point gap will be 2 points only. So, the chance for winning the title will be higher.

Yes, no other teams that possibly overtake Inter Milan points. Juventus is the only team that has the chance to catch Inter Milan. Juventus mustn't waste the chance to shorten the points gap with Inter Milan.

1083  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 29, 2023, 11:31:43 PM
I think that the level of the competition can also set free a lot of mental elements that otherwise may not contribute as much to the game of a team. Real Sociedad may not be one of the strongest teams in La Liga at the moment, but they are certainly not one of the weakest teams either. If they have most of their important players available for the games against PSG, I think that the game could go either way (or the two games in aggregate for that matter). PSG should have some advantage over them, but even if you say that PSG is a 60% favorite, there is still a lot of room left for Real Sociedad to be successful against them in the Champions League.
Real Sociedad is one of the big teams in La Liga. They often finish the season in the top 6 of La Liga standings. I agree if we can't underestimate Real Sociedad because they have the capability to make a surprise. We know if the teams from La Liga isn't an easy team to be defeated. They often win international competitions like UCL and UEL. So, PSG must be careful to play against Real Sociedad in the upcoming match. Moreover, if Real Sociedad can play with full team. They have the potential to defeat PSG and qualify for the next round. However, I still trust PSG to win the match because they have more quality players.

1084  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 29, 2023, 11:20:02 PM
The Feyenoord team cannot be considered weak. This team is in very good form this season. The team is performing very well in the Eredivise league. Although they are not at the top of the table, the performance of Feyenoord's players is quite good. They can score a lot of goals at the same time. Roma team is unlikely to win easily against Feyenoord. Feyenoord will try their best to win. Feyenoord have no chance of winning the Eredivise League title. So they will try to do well in the Europa League. Mourinho is an experienced coach. Roma squad players are also in very good rhythm. But it will be difficult for them to win against Feyenoord. The performance of Roma players is erratic. Mourinho must come up with his masterplan.
Yes, Feyenoord played quite well in the domestic league this season. They are in the second place, they may have the chance to compete for Eredivisie title although it seems not a really big chance. However, in UCL competition, Feyenoord got unsatisfactory results. They only won 2 matches, but they got 4 loses. If we consider their performance in UCL, they seems rather weak. But if we analyze their performance in domestic matches, they look quite strong. Well, it is also not so different with AS Roma. As Roma also played not very convincingly in UEL, they are just a runner-up. People expected Roma will be the leader of group G because there are many weak teams there. In fact, AS Roma already got 1 draw and 1 lose during the group stage matches.

1085  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are you ready for crypto investing in 2024? on: December 29, 2023, 11:11:52 PM
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Are you ready for crypto investing in 2024?
This question should be asked in 2022. The previous bullrun was in 2021, so ideally people prepare their investment in 2022-2023. If you asked it now, I think it is a bit late. The price of crypto coins already increased quite significant. So, we couldn't get the low prices to buy crypto coins anymore. In this time, people should have enough crypto coins in their wallets.

Just wanted to touch base and see how your holidays are going. Any significant updates in your portfolio?
I don't add many coins anymore. I only buy few coins that I think deserve to buy at this moment. And it should be for the short term goal.

Historical data indicates that significant holidays, such as Christmas, tend to bring about noticeable shifts in trading patterns and market sentiments.
Usually, crypto prices will drop quite significant. We can see the red market in the last few days. I think this will be the last chance for people to buy crypto coins. If they miss this chance, they probably have no chance to buy crypto coins with good price anymore.

1086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 28, 2023, 11:58:47 PM
I'm guessing this is one of the funnier Premier League of the last decade.
Debacle for Arsenal and Spurs, I think Guardiola will win again in the end.
Premier matches are always unpredictable. It already happened since many years ago. So, we shouldn't be so surprised to see the funny matches of Arsenal and Spurs. Specifically for Arsenal, they very often lose points with weak teams. And it will lead them to a decrease of their performance in the next matches. I honestly don't know why Arsenal often started the season impressively but they end the season with a very bad way.

I don't think so. Guardiola seems harder to win the title this season. Don't forget there is Liverpool in the top of EPL standings. I'm sure Liverpool has a big ambition to win the EPL title this season. If we compare between Arsenal and Liverpool, Liverpool seems to be more convincing to win the title. Liverpool also has a more experienced coach (Klopp).

1087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 28, 2023, 11:53:13 PM
Xabi has adjusted the balance within the team very well. The players respect him because he has had an amazing career. I don't know if Xabi Alonso will be the coach of Real Madrid in the future, but I observe that he is a really great coach. Bayer Leverkusen is now one of the most popular teams in Europe.
Sure. Xabi made Leverkusen to have a good balance in playing. But Leverkusen needs to improve the number of quality players to support the great job done by Xabi. No doubt if all the players and the official staff of Leverkusen to thank with Xabi because he improves Leverkusen performance drastically. Although there are Bayern Munich and Drotmund, Leverkusen is still undefeated so far.

Yes, he is a great coach. But many people expect him to lead Leverkusen to win some titles first before Xabi moves to Real Madrid. Why Real Madrid doesn't contact Zidane?

If we compare Leverkusen's squad with that of Dortmund or Bayern Munich, it is easy to understand that Leverkusen's squad is quite weak in comparison. However, Leverkusen have managed to remain unbeaten so far this season. And coach Xabi Alonso really needs to be thanked for that. Xabi's mastermind is why Leverkusen has continued to perform so consistently well.
Indeed. Leverkusen has the weakest squad if we compare the quality of the players. But Leverkusen players can play more consistently than Bayern Munich and Dortmund players. Xabi brings an impressive change in the play style of Leverkusen. So, they are unbeaten although they play against Bayern Munich or Dortmund. No doubt if Xabi has a big role for the current achievement of Leverkusen.

1088  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 28, 2023, 11:42:53 PM
Al Feiha vs Al Hilal

Al Hilal was very strong this season and they were very often to win with big scores at Saudi Pro League and it proven from their statistics during this season that Al Hilal has total 57 goals and only conceded 9 goals and from 5 recent matches Al Hilal has scores 23 goals and gets 4 cleansheet so it's clearly they have good balanced to attack and defense and about their opponent Al feiha this team is not in the good shape because from 6 matches at Saudi Pro League they only get 1 win

If we see from head to head statistics indeed both teams can able to beat each other but this season is totally different because Al Hilal was unstoppable at Saudi Pro League and seems this could be easy match for them
It will be an easy match for Al Hilal. Just look at the stats of the last 4 matches of Al Feiha, they got all the loses in every match. It seems impossible that Al Feiha to steal points from Al Hilal. Al Hilal stats looks too perfect, they never got a lose. There is no team that can win against Al Hilal, even Al Nassr got a defeat against Al Hilal.

The number of goals made by Al Hilal is very impressive. It is surely because Al Hilal has Aleksandar Mitrovic who played very productive in scoring. He already scored 16 goals in SPL and 5 goals in ACL. It is a great season for Aleksandar Mitrovic, he is competing for the top scorer status with Ronaldo now.  Wink

1089  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 28, 2023, 11:32:13 PM
According to some rumors, the England nation team is trying to convince Guardiola to join them for the next World Cup.
I don't think he will accept, however it may go with the Spain team...
I agree with you. It seems very small chance that Guardiola will accept the offer from England nation team. Unless the offer comes from Spain national team, Guardiola must consider it because he is a Spanish coach. It should be his dream to be the coach of Spain national team. However, I don't hear any rumor about the offer from Spain national team.

Onana isn't a bad keeper, but he can't show his best thus far and I don't know what the problem is for him. It's difficult to tell whether everything would have been better with De Gea, because I remember that De Gea also made mistakes from time to time, but the way he was sent away by ten Hag was bullshit. But is anyone still surprised about ten Hag's behavior? I don't think so. De Gea is one victim of many and he wasn't the last. Sancho is also have lots of trouble with him and there are several other players who are not ok with ten Hag.
Ten Hag have some problems with Man United players like De Gea, Ronaldo, and Sancho. That's why Ten Hag don't want to keep the players in Man United squad. Onana may still have good relationship with Ten Hag, it is the same as Maguire. It can be the big reason why these players still play with Man united although they do some big mistakes.

1090  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 28, 2023, 11:21:55 PM
Girona is quite strong this season and what's more, they will be playing at home which means they will be able to win again in this match. Atletico Madrid are known to play quite aggressively when they face teams that are equally strong, but in this match I think Girona is more favored to win this match. But yes, we'll see because in H2H of course Atletico Madrid was able to beat Girona 3 times.

These two teams are equally strong this season and in the upcoming match they are both aiming for 3 points so this match is really quite important for them in maintaining their ranking on the standings. The last time Girona suffered defeat was against Real Madrid and after that they were able to appear consistent and unbeaten.
I don't say Girona is quite strong but they are very strong this season. They are not popular team, but they can compete for the title. They even just got a lose against Real Madrid so far. They defeated Barcelona in Barcelona own stadium. It is proven that they are very strong, they can defeat big teams in La Liga this season. This never happened in the previous seasons.

In the upcoming match, I think Girona won't be defeated because they will play at home. The possible result of the next match is a draw, both teams have a big motivation to get points. However, Girona must have a bigger support because they will play at home. Although Girona can be defeated in the previous match against Atletico Madrid, I think it won't be the same anymore.

1091  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Polisi Grebek 10 Ruko Tambang Bitcoin on: December 28, 2023, 11:15:08 PM
Tidak semuanya lo Listik menggunkaan Token, karena sistem Listik penggunaan Token hanya perusahaaan yang berafiliasi dengan PLN. Oleh sebab itu kita masih banyak kok di daerah daerah Indonesia penggunaan Listrik dengan menggunakan Kilometer manual atau apa yah saya menyebutnya karena kurang tahu, tapi yang pasti menurut saya mengapa sampai mengalami kerugian besar berarti lebih masuk akal memakai Listrik non Token kayaknya.

Katanya memang 14,4 miliar tapi kita thau sendiri lah media bisa saja memanipulasi nominalnya demi kepentingan berita dll. itu sudah menjadi kegiaatan mereka untuk menaikan sebuah isu agar lebih menarik untuk ditonton.
Di daerah saya sudah jarang yang pake Kilometer, terutama untuk bangunan baru. Rata-rata ruko yang ada di daerah sini, semuanya sudah pake yang model token. Sepemahaman saya, yang pake kilometer itu masih ada subsidi dari pemerintah, harganya jauh lebih murah dibanding dengan yang pake token. Ya, untuk yang pake model token akan kecil kemungkinannya mencuri listrik karena butuh beli token untuk bisa mendapatkan listrik.

Kalau hitungan listriknya, saya kira tidak akan sebesar itu. Kecuali kalau pemerintah ngitung ruginya dari pendapatan mereka menambang Bitcoin.  Grin

Mungkin kutipan yang daimbil oleh agan @Sunderland bisa menjawab apa yang agan inginkan terkait duduk perkaranmya yang jelas masuk pada tindakan pidana yang sudah diatur dalam Undang Undang.
Saya sudah baca kutipannya. Itu tertera denda paling banyak Rp2.5 miliar. Berarti oknumnya tidak harus bayar 14,4 miliar karena maksimal dendanya hanya Rp2.5 miliar. Iya kan?  Grin

Kalau hanya masalah perizinan dan tunggakan, bukan polisi yang urus.
Yang pasti biaya pemakaian listrik di ruko ruko tsb juga pasti tinggi dan legal karena mereka bayar. Tapi mereka juga nyolong sebagian dayanya untuk dapat profit lebih besar.
Biaya dari satu mesin sekitar 3jt per bulan, 1300 x 3jt = 3,9M perbulan. Pemakaian yang legal mungkin hanya beberapa ratus juta perbulan.

Ini masalahnya pencurian listrik dari Jaringan Tegangan Rendah, simpelnya nyolong listrik dari tiang listrik di sekitar ruko tersebut.
Apa ada keterangan di artikelnya kalo mereka nyolong dari tiang listrik di sekitar ruko tersebut?  Huh
Nyolong listrik atau apapun, yang namanya nyolong polisi yang ngurus. Yang saya masih kurang jelas di sini, nyolongnya seperti apa.

1092  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 27, 2023, 11:59:51 PM
Real Sociedad is just a middle team in La Liga. They shouldn't be as strong as PSG, their squad depth is surely not very convincingly. PSG has better players in all lines, in theory PSG must win the match.

However, Real Sociedad performed quite well in UCL this season. They never got a lose in the matches of UCL group stage. They even leads the group D, it is impressive to see their achievement in UCL this season. This is something PSG will have to be wary of, they mustn't underestimate Real Sociedad because they played well in UCL.

I also don't care which team to qualify, both are good teams. But PSG should have a better experience in UCL.



But all of this really only serve as weak indicators of which team is better than the other and would hence go to the next round. We have seen plenty of surprises over all those last few months in all competitions. In the Cups, in the UEFA competitions, in FIFA competitions, in domestic leagues. I could mention plenty of great examples where the current position in the table meant nothing for the outcome of the game.

That's why the second part of what you said is important. Real Sociedad had by far the best defense in the Champions League and this is impressive. I think this game will be highly interesting and since I like Mbappe, I would wish for him to make it into the next round.
For this reason, nothing is impossible in football, sometimes we are sure the bet in the club is much stronger but in fact lost quite easily. This is sometimes in the prediction based on the statistics of the strength of the team. Regarding Real Sociedad and PSG PU. Statistically, actually PSG should have things that are much stronger both of them compete quite significantly and tightly. And it's true, whoever the winner is, they deserve for this, because sometimes the match at UCL is quite different in the euphoria. Either Mbappe will stay on PSG after the transfer market or not, this will definitely give a significant effect on PSG itself.
1093  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 27, 2023, 11:53:42 PM
There is always a possibility to miss points although Juventus is the favorite team to win the match. We can't underestimate AS Roma, they have good match against Napoli in the previous match. It may boost the motivation of Roma players to play in a good form in the upcoming match. However, I my self still believe for the winning of Juventus.  Grin
AS Roma will not start this match with a fear but they will play it with confidence that they will have points from Juventus. They are good enough to think of at least one point from Juventus and AS Roma even scored more goals than Juventus so far. They just have worse defense than Juventus but in general I think two teams are equal in quality. Each of them have own chance to win or lose this match.
The next problem is that Rome is often inconsistent with its performance. Several times they still cannot optimize the chains they have. If they are not that consistent and also the solidity of the team with the coach is getting better, actually it might not be this bad. Yes, the match later against Juventus will really test the extent to which the increase and consistency of Rome to continue to fight in order to re-enter the top standing at UCL. They really need these points and can't lose it anymore. But the misfortune is that Juventus are also on that on fire and it won't be possible to just surrender. Whereas Juventus have so far been significant in their performance progress and they are competing with Inter to make the first position. So, Juventus will not be easily conquered. Juventus must win so that the distance between the points from Inter does not widen.
1094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 27, 2023, 11:47:17 PM
It is a great comeback from Manchester city after their winnings in the club world cup. Everton put up a good fight but later crumbled as pep boys win with 3 goals to 1. Manchester city are now 5 points off the premier league table with a game in hand.
Initially really almost doubted Man City because it was left behind in the first round. But seeing how their game in the second half, especially the existence of a penalty of penalties, made sure that Man City would win. They actually have a significant attack, just imagine, 23 shots and 9 of them are on target. They have a lot of vicinity to print goals. But in the first half, they lost a lot of opportunities. Looks like they are still lacking on fire in the first round. Only in the second half, they really tried to optimally and effective all attacks to score goals. 1 - 3 for Man City's victory is very enough to make them get full 3 points in this match.

The thing that is quite surprising is the match between Newcastle vs Nottm Forest where Newcastle is really conquered with the defeat of score 1 - 3. That is also 1 goal from penalty kick. Indeed this season, Newcastle really has a very decreased performance compared to their strong and solid last season; Indeed there are many problems that must be faced by Newcastle this season.
1095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 27, 2023, 11:38:39 PM
Some betting odds show that AC Milan is one of the favorites to win the UEL, while Roma has nearly double the odds. I'm not sure why this is the case since Milan is not playing that well in the domestic or Champions League either. If we're talking about forms and ratings, they're quite similar. Is it simply because AC Milan is going down from the Champions league?
They are free to choose which team to be the champion of UEL. I can understand if they think AC Milan may have the chance to win UEL because AC Milan performance in UCL last season. AC Milan could reach the semi final round, it proved that AC Milan is a strong team. However, I think AC Milan is no longer as strong as the last season, there is some changes in AC Milan squad. If we compare the stats of all teams in UEL, Leverkusen is simply the most favorite team to win the UEL.

Stats-wise, Roma is considered better since they don't have any apparent weaknesses, while Milan has too many weaknesses for their opponent to exploit[1]. Not sure if they can even improve or fix it within a few games. On the other hand, betting odds can change depending on which source you use, so I wouldn't be surprised if people bet on Roma more than Milan. CMIIW.
Both AC Milan and Roma have weaknesses. If Roma has a little weakness, they must be among the top 3 teams in Serie A standings.  Grin
In my humble opinion, there is 1 fatal weaknesses of AS Roma that may lead them to eliminate in the knock-out round, it is the bad mentality of the players. If you checked some of the match of AS Roma, they even got defeats from small teams.

1096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 27, 2023, 11:28:47 PM
The pair of these two players has always been a strong pair at Al-Nassr club as they have the ability to score goals in almost every match. Talisca and Cristiano Ronaldo are the strongest duo for the Saudi Pro League as they hold the top spot in the top scorers till now. I think this duo will dominate the entire 2024 season. So far they can't break this record, because their attack is the strongest this season.
I don't think Al Nassr has duo attackers, they have trio attackers (Ronaldo, Talisca, Mane).
Without Mane, we can see that Ronaldo and Talisca can't score many goals like this season. Don't forget about the contribution of Mane, he has a big role in the attacking line of Al Nassr.

The match was essentially Benzema vs Ronaldo. Ronaldo scored two goals but from the penalty spot. On the other hand, Benzema's performance was not good in this match. Ronaldo's presence was quite visible in this match. Despite scoring from the penalty spot, Ronaldo's overall performance was quite good. On the other hand, we did not see the expected performance from Benzema. I expected the match to be very competitive. Although the first half was competitive, we saw the dominance of Al Nassr players in the second half.
Ronaldo scored 2 goals from penalty kick. Benzema got 0 penalty kick. So, it is very reasonable that Benzema scored 0 goal.  Grin
Both Ronaldo and Benzema played good, but the wins didn't depend on these players only. Al Nassr other attackers played better than Al Ittihad attackers. Talisca and Mane contributed 3 goals, those goals aren't from penalty kicks. I think we are better to appreciate them than comparing the performance between Ronaldo and Benzema.

1097  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 27, 2023, 11:20:05 PM
If Xabi Alonso has reached a personal agreement with Real Madrid for me it is a very natural thing, because I think he really wants to be at Real Madrid. He's a former Real Madrid player, and I know he's a Real Madrid fan, so if there's an offer coming from Real Madrid he'll be very happy.
On the other hand, it's true what you say, if he leaves Leverkusen then it will have an effect, because we know that the person who brought Leverkusen to the current form is Xabi Alonso. Leverkusen will have to go back and look for a suitable coach who can replace Xabi and that will be very difficult.
I think it is not a natural thing because the season isn't over yet. Xabi Alonso must focus to lead Leverkusen to finish the season with the best achievement (win the titles). It is not the right time to get a personal agreement with any team. If the season is over already, it is okay to negotiate with other teams, including Real Madrid. Although Xabi Alonso is a former player of Real Madrid, he must be professional as a coach. He must be aware that he is the coach of Leverkusen now, he mustn't think about another team.

Yes, that's right, I really agree with what you said, if Xabi has brought many changes to the Bayer Leverkusen team, the extraordinary consistency is none other than because of Xabi performance in managing the team to achieve maximum results so that it can improve the quality of work of all the players, not to mention It is not known for certain whether Xabi accepted the offer, but if yes, I think it was a good decision Xabi smart work can no longer be doubted. If Xabi finally replaces Anclotti to coach a big team like Real Madrid, it will be good news for everyone because Xabi is a suitable coach to replace Anclotti.
Personally, I prefer to see Xabi wins some titles with Leverkusen first before he moves to Real Madrid. Xabis must prove that he is quite capable to manage Real Madrid. Winning some trophies will be a strong proof of his quality as a coach. But if he moves to Real Madrid before winning any title, I think it is not a really wise decision for his career.

1098  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: (diskusi) harga pancake(cake) dan axs on: December 27, 2023, 11:07:20 PM
harga terendah pancake sendiri sebelum bull run season adalah sekitar 1.15 dollar harga sekarang hampir 3 dollaran beberpa hari lalu sempat di atas 3 dollar atau kenaikan hampir 300 persen
Apa sekarang sudah bullrun season, gan?  Huh
Harga CAKE saat ini sekitar $3,4. Ya naiknya sudah cukup signifikan. Memang sangat wajar karena PancakeSwap sendiri cukup populer, terutama untuk tempat perdagangan koin-koin micin. Kalau koin-koin micin masih terus populer, CAKE bakal cukup potensial untuk terus naik menjelang altcoins season.

sedangan axs adalah koin berbasis game, ketika awal2 launching main game nya bisa menghasilkan banyak banget keuntungan
harga terendah koin ini sekitar 4.3 dollar an,
kemarin harga koin ini sempat di harga 11 dollar an, sekarang harga koin ini 10 dollaran
atau naik 250 persen lebih dari harga terendah nya
Harga AXS ini dulu sempat mencapai $164,9 (tahun 2021). Namun sempat turun cukup dalam karena hype token gaming hilang dan juga imbas dari musim bearish. Kalau hype gaming naik lagi, AXS tentu adalah salah satu koin gaming yang potensial untuk dibeli karena AXS ini salah satu koin top gaming. Harga AXS saat ini sekitar $9.5 - $9.6 tapi sepertinya masih terus naik karena hype yang bagus di market crypto menjelang halving. Tapi tetap hati-hati dalam menentukan target jual. Walaupun dulu sempat mencapai $164,9 tapi untuk bullrun mendatang belum tentu mencapai harga tersebut lagi.

1099  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Polisi Grebek 10 Ruko Tambang Bitcoin on: December 27, 2023, 10:52:45 PM
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"Pada prinsipnya, pencurian ini bisa dihitung kerugiannya, dengan estimasi enam bulan pemakaian listriknya tanpa bayar dari total 10 titik itu sebesar Rp14,4 miliar kerugian PLN atas pencurian listrik ini," ucap Agung kepada wartawan, Minggu 24 Desember 2023.
Ini kutipan dari artikel tersebut.
Menurut saya ada yang janggal di sini. Setau saya, listrik model sekarang itu pake token, apalagi itu ruko. Gimana ceritanya mereka tidak bayar selama 6 bulan? Selain itu masa iya estimasi penggunaan listrik selama 6 bulan bisa sampe 14,4 miliar? Saya tidak paham cara menghitungnya, tapi kasarannya kalau seminggu itu habis 200 ribu per ruko, gak sampe 50 juta untuk pemakaian 10 ruko. Dari mana hitungannya bisa sampe miliaran?  Huh  Roll Eyes

Eniwei, tidak ada yang salah dengan penambangan Bitcoin di sini ya. Yang salah itu karena tidak bayar listrik ke PLN. Tapi ini artikel kesannya seolah-olah menyudutkan Bitcoinnya, padahal itu ulah oknumnya. Menurut saya, ini lagi-lagi peggiringan opini oleh media tertentu.  Sad

Jadi, apakah nantinya penyedik akan menjual Bitcoin yang disita akan di lelang, dimusnahkan atau justru dijual dan hasilnya masuk ke kas negara?
Harus jelas dulu duduk perkaranya.
Kalau masalah perizinan dan tunggakkan bayar listrik ke PLN, harusnya tidak sampe di sita itu Bitcoin dan peralatan tambangnya. Oknumnya tinggal bayar denda ke pemerintah. Setau saya, penambangan Bitcoin di Indonesia itu tidak ilegal. Yang ilegal kalo Bitcoin digunakan sebagai alat transaksi.

1100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 26, 2023, 11:58:48 PM
Aston Villa winning streak was finally broken by Manchester United in today match. The match was full of emotion because I support Manchester united but they conceded 2 goals early which made me a little worried but in the end they were able to score 3 goals which made them seal the win at Old Trafford Stadium. Maybe this is the best performance by Manchester united this season where they were able to catch up with 2 goals and turn things around to 3-2.
Yes, Man United stopped the winning record of Aston Villa. Aston Villa destroyed Tottenham, Man City, and Arsenal but they couldn't destroy Man United. Man United can celebrate their winning, it is not easy to stop Aston Villa in their best form. Man United performance is impressive, they made a great come back in the match. Garnacho and Hojlund played very well today.

Aston Villa has been very strong recently and in fact they couldn't beat Manchester united. Previously, Aston villa managed to beat Manchester city and Tottenham, but in the match against Manchester united they made many mistakes in the second half which Manchester united could take advantage of to score goals.
Indeed. Aston Villa becomes a strong team this season, they killed the top teams in EPL (Tottenham, Man City, and Arsenal). Today, they are defeated by Man United, they missed 3 points to maintain their position in UCL zone. However, they are lucky that they are quite safe in the top 5. Aston Villa at least can finish in 5th place (Europa League zone).


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