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1121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: February 18, 2018, 05:16:55 PM
Question for fellow Onda D1800 users: I just found out that AMD cards don't get along with the integrated GPU if the latter is enabled, but I've also read of quite a few horror stories about the external GPUs not outputting video if the iGPU is disabled on the Onda boards. Any advice on how or whether to proceed would be appreciated as my plan was to make one of these D1800 into a dedicated Cryptonight miner and I've already acquired (4) RX 560 for that purpose.



The D1800s are quite easy to deploy, I have older reference 580s, 1050tis, 1060s on XMR/Cryptonite with SMOS booting up without touching them BIOS settings, in production right now. The one condition that I discovered discussed here many posts ago was the first GPU must be a non-mining card (with video output), remaining cards can be mining cards.

Yes, I should clarify that my two D1800 have been working quite well - one filled out with GTX 1060's and the other getting filled out with RX 560s - but a comment made in another thread got me to do some more poking around and it turns out my RX 560s aren't working quite as well as they could (actually, I already knew that, but just assumed I got unlucky in the silicon lottery).

To make a long story short, MSI AB was claiming it was changing the clocks of my RX 560s to 1200/1900, but GPU-Z was reporting they were still at the stock settings of 1295/1750. Inserting an HDMI dummy plug on the first card caused the desired clock values to show up in GPU-Z, Cryptonight hashrate increased by 11% overall (with most from the card with the dummy plug) and Ethash hashrate increased by 8% on the card with the dummy plug while remaining the same on the other 2.

I bought the one dummy plug for my first RX 570, but it didn't appear to need it so this may be specific to Baffin cards or because of the iGPU on the Celeron or even the Onda BIOS. Dunno, and since the dummy plug is a cheap solution I'm not going to worry too much about it.

1122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 560 setup problem, overclock doesnt apply!! on: February 18, 2018, 04:45:54 PM
Half-correct. He started off by saying that the iGPU sometimes interferes with overclocking AMD cards, but he also said later on that sometimes a dummy plug needs to be used to fool the card into thinking a monitor is attached, and that turned out to be the solution for me.

How many GPU do you have? Because if you hav to buy a Dummy plug for all GPU gona cost a lot...

Right now I have (3) RX 560 with (1) more on the way. Given the boosts in hashrate of ~8% for Ethash to ~11% for Cryptonight per card with the dummy plug attached each plug will pay for itself in 30-50 days. Seems like a good tradeoff to me.

1123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 560 setup problem, overclock doesnt apply!! on: February 18, 2018, 04:18:22 PM
Something else to consider that I just learned about myself is that AMD cards need to have a display attached to operate at maximum hashrate. It doesn't have to be a real display, though - you can get "dummy plugs" that simulate a display for $8US on Amazon: https://smile.amazon.com/Headless-Display-Emulator-Headless-1920x1080-generation/dp/B06XT1Z9TF/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1518969028&sr=8-3&keywords=hdmi+dummy+plug

Credit for this tip goes to Mattthev in this thread starting with my post #241: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046072.240



That's not Matthev said. He explain problem with IGPU that's different.

Half-correct. He started off by saying that the iGPU sometimes interferes with overclocking AMD cards, but he also said later on that sometimes a dummy plug needs to be used to fool the card into thinking a monitor is attached, and that turned out to be the solution for me.
1124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 560 hashrates on: February 18, 2018, 04:09:04 PM

Holy shit, that worked! I just happened to have an HDMI dummy plug that I purchased for my RX 570 rig but didn't end up needing. I plugged it into the first RX 560 on the Onda rig and now the correct clock rates are showing up in GPU-Z while Cryptonight hashrate jumped by ~22 H/s per card (after stopping and restarting xmr-stak)! I'll try Claymore v11.0 on a <2GB DAG Ethash coin (MUSIC or UBQ) in about 15 minutes and update this post.

I have just one merit left to give out, but if solving a problem I didn't even know I have isn't worth a merit then this forum is screwed...

UPDATE - okay, looks like I need to get a dummy plug for *each* card; the hashrate jump in xmr-stak was ~66 H/s total and I *assumed* that it was spread equally per card, but when I loaded up Claymore only the first card shows a higher hashrate of 14 MH/s while the other two are still at 12.9 MH/s. Still, the dummy plugs are cheap and an easy fix!


Thats strange, I dont have same problem

I'm always using latest drivers, though

I'm guessing it's a mobo-dependent issue, then, as I'm also using the latest drivers (Adrenalin 18.2.2).
1125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 560 setup problem, overclock doesnt apply!! on: February 18, 2018, 03:52:13 PM
Something else to consider that I just learned about myself is that AMD cards need to have a display attached to operate at maximum hashrate. It doesn't have to be a real display, though - you can get "dummy plugs" that simulate a display for $8US on Amazon: https://smile.amazon.com/Headless-Display-Emulator-Headless-1920x1080-generation/dp/B06XT1Z9TF/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1518969028&sr=8-3&keywords=hdmi+dummy+plug

Credit for this tip goes to Mattthev in this thread starting with my post #241: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046072.240

1126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 560 hashrates on: February 18, 2018, 03:23:16 PM
Thanks for the clue on what to check and you are indeed correct - GPU-Z 2.7.0 reports the stock and current clock values are the same (1295/1750, vs. 1200/1900 reported by MSI AB) so something buggy going on for sure, and you get a merit! Disabling the iGPU on the Onda mobos has led to a lot of problems with NO video showing up, and it not being recoverable without removing the CMOS backup battery.

EDIT - so the plan, I guess, is to order a DVI-D to VGA adapter (so I can continue using my KVM switch with my other Onda board that has all NVIDIA cards) and see if I can get the mobo to disable the onboard VGA *and* enable one of the PCIe GPUs for video out.

Again, I don't use these new drivers, but on those old I need HDMI dummy plug, it's working without it for me, but I know some RX cards need it. I use it because Teamviewer resolution that is terrible without it. I'm using one of those 2 dollars HDMI to VGA convertor, it's fake not the original, but it does the job Cheesy
All my rigs have Z270 chipset.
Thanks for the Merit Smiley I was thinking that I will have it because of my guides, but they not giving me almost none Cheesy

Holy shit, that worked! I just happened to have an HDMI dummy plug that I purchased for my RX 570 rig but didn't end up needing. I plugged it into the first RX 560 on the Onda rig and now the correct clock rates are showing up in GPU-Z while Cryptonight hashrate jumped by ~22 H/s per card (after stopping and restarting xmr-stak)! I'll try Claymore v11.0 on a <2GB DAG Ethash coin (MUSIC or UBQ) in about 15 minutes and update this post.

I have just one merit left to give out, but if solving a problem I didn't even know I have isn't worth a merit then this forum is screwed...

UPDATE - okay, looks like I need to get a dummy plug for *each* card; the hashrate jump in xmr-stak was ~66 H/s total and I *assumed* that it was spread equally per card, but when I loaded up Claymore only the first card shows a higher hashrate of 14 MH/s while the other two are still at 12.9 MH/s. Still, the dummy plugs are cheap and an easy fix!
1127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEMOSMINER multi algo profit switching NVIDIA miner on: February 18, 2018, 02:01:25 PM
When I started mining in beginning of januari I started with Zpool. But found that ahashpool was providing way better profit so switched. Dont think I'm going back to zpool any time soon. Rather hope that zergpool or blazepool get more workers and will check those out again in future.

Depends on where you are located - ahashpool is in Asia somewhere, so ping times will be long from the US - and how much hashrate you have - their 0.01 BTC minimum payout takes way too long to reach with my 6x 1060 rig.

1128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: February 18, 2018, 01:45:17 PM
Question for fellow Onda D1800 users: I just found out that AMD cards don't get along with the integrated GPU if the latter is enabled, but I've also read of quite a few horror stories about the external GPUs not outputting video if the iGPU is disabled on the Onda boards. Any advice on how or whether to proceed would be appreciated as my plan was to make one of these D1800 into a dedicated Cryptonight miner and I've already acquired (4) RX 560 for that purpose.

1129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: February 18, 2018, 12:53:53 PM
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The thread about the new batch is in my sig;   If you have suggestions on miner app versions; the algos those versions support, as well as what pools to support or features to add to mminer;  post em up in that thread, that way its kept with the project and easier than scrolling to this thread for the list, or loosing a text file among the 10's of terabytes stored at home....

I haven't seen a batch file this complicated in 20+ years... Not since the bad old days of having to tweak himem and qemm to get DESQview to work (in other words, pre-Windows 3.0)!

My first suggestion would be to provide some explanation as to what this batch file does* if for no other reason than so we can know what to expect from its operation, and when to intervene if something seems amiss. I'm not saying write a detailed "click on this button; press this key" type of description - mining is not for the moronic, after all** - but an overview would be nice.

My second suggestion upon cursory reading of the batch file is to ditch lbry - it is no longer practical to mine with a GPU due to the Baikal ASIC miner. Pascal, Sia, & Decred have also been ASIC'ed.


* - the readme.txt file included in the zip is empty, so perhaps there already is an explanation, it just got lost in transit.

** - except for NiceHash; it doesn't take much brains to get it running. No offense to NH users; I occasionally use it myself, too.  Tongue
1130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX 560 hashrates on: February 18, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
They might fix it. I'm still on 17.6.2 drivers and on these and older ones there were problem with stability and OC settings, clocks weren't successfully applied when you check it with Hwinfo and GPU-Z. Some of my customers have same problems with newer drivers too, but not sure about Adrenaline.

Thanks for the clue on what to check and you are indeed correct - GPU-Z 2.7.0 reports the stock and current clock values are the same (1295/1750, vs. 1200/1900 reported by MSI AB) so something buggy going on for sure, and you get a merit! Disabling the iGPU on the Onda mobos has led to a lot of problems with NO video showing up, and it not being recoverable without removing the CMOS backup battery.

EDIT - so the plan, I guess, is to order a DVI-D to VGA adapter (so I can continue using my KVM switch with my other Onda board that has all NVIDIA cards) and see if I can get the mobo to disable the onboard VGA *and* enable one of the PCIe GPUs for video out.

Hmm... I just switched my (3) RX 560 rig over to mining UBQ to check this out and I'm getting 38.8 MH/s total with 1200/1900 set in MSI AB. Driver version is Adrenalin 18.2.2 in Compute mode. So my speed does seem a bit low per card (12.9 MH/s) given they all have Elpida memory. Not using the iGPU is a bit of a problem with the Onda D1800 mining mobos, though.

EDIT - and dropping all 3 mem clocks to 1800 did not change hashrate as it should have...
You probably need better timing strap. Also it's better to change clocks before you start mine it sometimes doesn't react on changes.

I'm interested... but I need to sort out this iGPU mess, first.
1131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NPlusMiner - Pool/Algo switching miner with Plus logic (NVidia) on: February 18, 2018, 11:15:46 AM
Well, the PS script crashed just after attempting to load miners. Here are the last few lines from the miner.log:

Code:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Last Refresh: 02/18/2018 05:55:16
Sleep 240 sec
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Stats ' X17 ' ->  41.68 MH after 27243 sec
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Loading BTC rate from 'api.coinbase.com'..
Loading pool stats..
Loading miners..
PS>TerminatingError(): "The pipeline has been stopped."
>> TerminatingError(): "The pipeline has been stopped."
PS C:\Users\ONDA-1\Desktop\Mining\NPlusMiner-1.2.1> exit
**********************
Windows PowerShell transcript end
End time: 20180218060008
**********************

I did not press Ctrl-C, even though that is what it looks like. I did type in 'exit' when I noticed it was sitting at the PS command prompt.

EDIT - I should also note that ccminer-polytimos was still plugging away on X17, so this wasn't a fatal error.
1132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: JK's Manual Miner for zPool.ca V2.0 on: February 18, 2018, 11:10:22 AM
Same here - yesterday was a total disaster with all sorts of problems plaguing me from the moment I got up until I finally called it quits to watch a movie around 8p and by the time JK told me about his script I was in no mood for it.  Tongue

But the MrPlus fork of NemosMiner just crashed after spending another 8 hours stuck on X17 so why not try out some new and exciting ways to be vexed!?!

1133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MUSICOIN] Musicoin Desktop Wallet v1.0 Is Here 🎸🎸 💃💃🎸 🎸 😍 on: February 18, 2018, 11:07:31 AM

EDIT - I finally got it working, but I don't really know how. I rebooted the computer and after the entire blockchain synced my old balance showed up. Had I known what to expect I wouldn't have gotten so vexed, however.


Do you know how blockchain works?
Your coins don't store in the independent file, they don't exist at all. But blockchain - it's all transaction between all adresses. So when it made full sync, you can see you ballance.



Be happy and have a nice day//

Haha, very funny. In restrospect this is precisely the behavior I should have expected, yes. But consider the confluence of factors here: I installed a new wallet; it did not appear to automatically recognize my existing keystore; it also prompted me to either import an old account or create a new one, but selecting import appeared to do both, while also zeroing out the old account; there was no message about syncing the blockchain and the old 0.7 wallet did not show your wallet balance until it was done. The last issue was the complicating factor here - something funky happened with ethernet connectivity with the one port on the switch this computer was connected to and I ended up having to cycle power to the switch and the router to fix it. Frankly, I've never seen just one port stop working so learn something new - usually unpleasant - every day, I guess.

1134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NPlusMiner - Pool/Algo switching miner with Plus logic (NVidia) on: February 18, 2018, 10:51:45 AM
Okay, so I'm testing this out using the startzpoolplus batch file - with my BTC address, of course, -interval set to 120 and -ActiveMinerGainPct set to 4. Benchmarking on a 6x GTX 1060 system took around 2 hours with all the default algos selected for Zpool except for LBRY (it's been ASIC'ed, so no point mining that with a GPU rig anymore).

2.5 hours after normal auto-switch mining began and the only algo selected has been X17, which seems awfully suspicious. I expected less switching, sure, but not this much less. Where should I look to troubleshoot, or is this entirely the result of the pool reporting bad/stuck data?



Same on my rigs today. Looks good.

MrPlus

Was this on Zpool, too, or another one? I switched over to 1.2.1 last night and in the ensuing 8 hours it still has only mined X17 (according to the entries in miner.log).

This seems exceptionally unusual, though I'll admit I've only been testing out multi-algo pools for about 3 weeks now so I'm inclined to let it slide for now.

Otherwise, the main PS script window is much more Spartan now and I kind of miss the ordered list of algos with their (hilariously wrong) projected earnings; if nothing else seeing that list - especially if values change, if not the order - would give me more confidence that the averaging function is working correctly (or to judge when the pool data is messed up, as has occurred with SHA256 and Lyra2v2 on Zpool recently).

In contrast, I really like the average earnings stats and projected pay date that you've added. It seems like you are taking this in the right direction overall.

1135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][FlexFee™][SegWit] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ on: February 17, 2018, 10:06:36 PM
Does the magenta highlighting of an algo indicate it is the one that is most profitable at that time?
colorblind....

can you post an imgur link to a small screenshot (highlight the area) of what you are talking about?

Because image embedding often doesn't work here, I made it a link.

https://imgur.com/a/zeuOW

I dont think so though;  stratum handles what's most profitable when doing profit switching via the pool and not another app or profit calculating script....  I have never seen it display it on the wallet or pool page.

Would be kinda nice;  but then again, profitability itself is based on your normalization factor;  so a web based display would be based on the 1.0 default normalization across the board and would not yield a correct answer per-user.

Yeah, I didn't think so, but there was a reason I asked - the forked version of NemosMiner I was trying out was stuck on X17 for 3 hours before I closed it and started up an older version of the same to see what it selected as most profitable; for about 20 minutes it was X17, but now it has switched to Tribus. 

As far as your benchmarks;  Get my automatic batch out and give it a try for your profitability checks;  you are relying on nemosminer to do the profit calcs...  the pool code could be doing it differently itself when stratum decides what you mine instead.  There's the automatic batch, and the lite batch.  Both have merits and drawbacks.  Links in my sig.

I normally love tinkering with this sort of thing, but I am approaching burnout today as a result of hunting down numerous issues that decided to happen all at once.
1136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MUSICOIN] Musicoin Desktop Wallet v1.0 Is Here 🎸🎸 💃💃🎸 🎸 😍 on: February 17, 2018, 09:23:00 PM
So what's the deal on importing keys/balance from the v0.7 wallet into the v1.0 wallet? When I follow the instructions I get a box asking me to input the old private key and password, but the v0.7 wallet never properly backed up the private keys* and never asked me for a password...
Your accounts should available without nothing, since keystore folder located at the same location as for 0.7 and 0.8. As for introduction screen, in case it confused you, you should just click <open the wallet>, and it will not appear anymore.

* - when I clicked on the "backup keys" button an explorer dialog box pops up to save a file, but no filename is provided and nothing can actually be done.
You should select directory, where UTC/JSON file will be saved. You can backup account separately using Backup Account in Actions, or by clicking on the avatar and selecting Backup Account. As for manual (full keystore backup) you can select Account - Open Keystore in the menu.  This action will open your file manager in the keystore directory.

Yes, I'm confused because what you describe does not match what I experienced/am experiencing.

In fact, I just reopened the v1.0 wallet and now it is showing two addresses, one of which is my original address and which now has *Zero F'ing Coins*.

So thanks, wallet devs, you just managed to wipe out 120 MUSIC because your old wallet wouldn't back up properly, both wallets store keys in some ridiculous secret Windows folder rather than in the same directory as the wallet, and upon opening the new wallet for the first time it presented a bunch of choices that somehow zeroed out my balance without ever warning me this could happen.

Oh, and I can't manually open up the original wallet's UTC/JSON file file because, once again, an explorer window pops up when I select that option and then notepad automatically opens the file when I double click on it. FFS, this is moronic.

EDIT - I finally got it working, but I don't really know how. I rebooted the computer and after the entire blockchain synced my old balance showed up. Had I known what to expect I wouldn't have gotten so vexed, however.


1137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NPlusMiner - Pool/Algo switching miner with Plus logic (NVidia) on: February 17, 2018, 08:36:08 PM
Okay, so I'm testing this out using the startzpoolplus batch file - with my BTC address, of course, -interval set to 120 and -ActiveMinerGainPct set to 4. Benchmarking on a 6x GTX 1060 system took around 2 hours with all the default algos selected for Zpool except for LBRY (it's been ASIC'ed, so no point mining that with a GPU rig anymore).

2.5 hours after normal auto-switch mining began and the only algo selected has been X17, which seems awfully suspicious. I expected less switching, sure, but not this much less. Where should I look to troubleshoot, or is this entirely the result of the pool reporting bad/stuck data?

1138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][FlexFee™][SegWit] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ on: February 17, 2018, 08:30:05 PM
Does the magenta highlighting of an algo indicate it is the one that is most profitable at that time?
1139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][FlexFee™][SegWit] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ on: February 17, 2018, 07:10:58 PM
I need to check that out -- I did a small test and for the first time since I quit using it many months ago... NiceHash is ahead of ZPOOL on a test group of my workers.

Obviously I want to avoicd using NH and I've always done well with ZPOOL... but the difference is non-trivial. Perhaps it's just in my settings.

Thanks =)


It took about 2 hours to benchmark all the algos selected by default for Zpool (except for LBRY, as that algo has been ASIC'ed so no point mining it with a GPU) and it has been running in auto-switching mode for about an hour. So far it has remained on X17 the entire time, which is definitely unusual. Neither Nemos nor MrPlus do a very good job of explaining what their mining automation scripts do so I am inferring much from observation, but it appears that the MrPlus version needs to run for many hours to build up a decent average for the profitability stats, hence why I thought it was unusual it was sticking with X17 for so long.

That said, NONE of the multi-algo pools I've tested over the last few weeks - using NemosMiner, in all cases - beat out NiceHash when run concurrently on similar hardware. Two pools got on the wrong side of a hard fork which wiped out ~35% of my earnings so those were clearly outliers, but MiningPoolHub and Zpool both came in around 10% less than NH and so I have begun to suspect NemosMiner is the culprit, especially since I verified that both pools pay fairly/honestly when run in single-algo mode (Neoscrypt on MPH and Lyra2v2 on Zpool).

I'm *hoping* that MrPlus' fork of NemosMiner will help, but if not I will use NiceHash for auto-convert to BTC and Zpool or MiningPoolHub for "single-algo, convert to whatever I want."

1140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][FlexFee™][SegWit] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ on: February 17, 2018, 05:24:11 PM
What interval is everyone here using with ZPOOL & NEMOSMINER -- my mining profit seems unusually low recently -- using a 300-second interval at the moment.

That's what I was using for interval, along with 5% for the threshold to switch, but I just downloaded and am running the benchmarks for the MrPlus version that blends together short and long term profitability to reduce chasing brief profitability spikes and have set interval to 120 seconds and threshold to 4%. See the ANN thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2965976

I can't say whether it is better or not since it is still benchmarking, but it makes more sense to me than merely polling the API every x seconds and then switching even if that algo is getting pumped by some low-float shitcoin.

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