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141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: October 05, 2018, 07:17:03 PM
How does Dero's use of uncles differ from Ethereum's use of uncles?

Does Ethereum also thwart 51% attack?

I forwarded your questions to the dev on Discord, but I can answer the second one: currently, Ethereum is *not* resistant to a 51% attack. That said, it is all but immune to one given the massive amount of hashrate it would require, and Vitalik it working on a new consensus algo that would require 99% of the nodes to be compromised (which sounds suspiciously like what Dero has already...).

142  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: New Zealand "Digital Strip Search" on: October 05, 2018, 05:02:40 PM

That's weird however what about Fifth Amendment Right...?
...most Americans know they have the right not to answer police questions both while in custody or in court...

Also watch this: https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE

The actual amendment that pertains here is the 4th - prohibition against searches and seizures without probable cause - but border crossings are an exception, even for US citizens returning to the US. You can still refuse to be searched but you won't be allowed back into the country.

IANAL, but I don't think a law compelling US citizens to supply computer or phone passwords to US border/customs agents would fly; citizens of other countries would be fair game, though.

143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2018, 12:27:11 PM
Don't worry boys, the Bitcoin market will continue to stay down all this year, but will begin to rise again mid next year along with the whole U.S. stock market.

Just like 2014 was, going into 2015.

You see, it's all engineered and managed markets now. It's all fake and completely managed.
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Setting aside the tin foil hat stuff, to truly manipulate a market you need deep/liquid derivatives trading (e.g. - options AND futures). See, for example, the overwhelming tendency for the S&P 500 (e.g. - SPX/SPY) to close under its high calls or over its high puts on each expiration (a looser interpretation of "max pain theory"). The exceptions are usually from delta hedging, which occurs when a security's price strays well beyond the high calls/low puts and market makers scramble to buy/sell the underlying, respectively, to close out their underwater options contracts.

Now I'll probably go back to lurking as I've done for the past few months or so.
144  Other / Meta / Re: How to deal with bumping via fake conversation? on: October 05, 2018, 12:05:26 PM
The evidence can be quite strong but if there is no concrete proof, the line between a scripted conversation or not is very small.
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Yep, that's the primary counterargument I expected. The ATLANTICO example has more of a classic spam megathread kind of feel, but the EvenCoin and SafeInsure examples are, I feel, much more insidious in that they give the appearance of a genuine conversation occurring until you really pay attention to what is being said, e.g. from the EvenCoin thread -

Post 2662 makes a typically generic assertion found in most spam megathreads:

I like that this project promotes the ideas of a distributed economy to the masses and uses for this just the technology of blockchai. It's great to make it more massive and attract more new users.



Post 2663 then responds to that generic assertion with a generic question:

I like that this project promotes the ideas of a distributed economy to the masses and uses for this just the technology of blockchai. It's great to make it more massive and attract more new users.

And what are the advantages of this project? Can I ask you about?


Post 2664 provides generic answers to the previous generic question - I mean, what crypto doesn't "support cross-border transfers"?:

I like that this project promotes the ideas of a distributed economy to the masses and uses for this just the technology of blockchai. It's great to make it more massive and attract more new users.

And what are the advantages of this project? Can I ask you about?

Well, for example, EvenCoin will support cross-border transfers, which in itself is an excellent solution, as this will help to facilitate international trade between entrepreneurs. It's also a ready-made and complete e-commerce system, and this is based on the highly reliable method of Escrow

Etc.
145  Other / Meta / How to deal with bumping via fake conversation? on: October 05, 2018, 11:03:12 AM
In order for a thread to maintain a position on the first page of the altcoins/announcements subforum it needs a post every 10 minutes or less, something that seems unlikely for all but the most followed projects and/or ones undergoing some controversy. For a project too small to show up on CMC, however, the more likely explanation is the use of paid bumping. Previously I found plagiarism or duplicate posting (ie - when someone writes the exact same response in several thread) to be most common, but the last few days I have noticed a new technique which appears to be a fake conversation. That is to say, two or more people seem to be having a conversation because they are asking/answering a series of questions between them, but this conversation does not seem to be authentic as it is strictly about generalities and often times doesn't even make sense.

Unfortunately, this behavior (absent plagiarism or duplicate posting) does not seem to be excluded by the (un)official rules hence I thought I'd present my evidence here and get a discussion going on how to address this going forward. Below are a few threads whose conversations seem fake and the users who appear to be involved based on posting more than two generic questions or answers to the thread:


The first two examples - EvenCoin and SafeInsure - seem to be employing the same group of people: BTCFaucets, CoinNextE, amanai, bitokman, guarino, 12coins, SamuelN, peetah, Tiny_Prism, boomertoo, kk777, Klacik.

The 3rd example - ATLANTICO - is run a little differently as it is less of a conversation and more just random postings (mostly from people on the sig campaigns for GigTricks and EraSwap): Justenjoy1903, Anya Doreen, Maryqueen Finez, HappyCaptain, imopogicute, 25espia1994, larry1994, clarise123, pogicute1234, 123pogi123, jackielim

I have already reported some of the users above for plagiarism or duplicate posting (though the latter is less clearly an infraction*) but if they haven't plagiarized or posted the same post to multiple threads I'm not sure what to do. A few months ago a similar situation occurred with the RoomDao ANN - discussed here Bumping RoomDao ICO ANN - and that thread was nuked by mprep, but some people argued that bad actors or competitors could report threads for paid bumping to get them nuked for their own benefit. I dunno about that - "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" springs to mind.


EDIT - got clarification that duplicating one's own posts is treated the same as plagiarism by hilariousandco:

I don't know about perma ban, but temp ban should be for sure. Threads for these types of posts aren't really required. One or two reports should be enough(ask the mod to check post history and explain it clearly what the guy is doing in the report paragraph).

It's a permaban. This is no different than copying someone else's post and if you do this then you have absolutely no intention of contributing here and you're 100% only doing it to farm your account and/or bleed bounties whilst putting in no effort at all. It's scumbags like these that are destroying the forum. If they're too lazy to actually make posts then don't bother.
146  Other / Meta / Re: End of newbie restrictions; ban changes on: October 04, 2018, 06:50:22 PM
Hi @nutildah
first thank to reply to me.
I tried to contact with MELBOROZA... but I am newby and I can't send message to him... It has a restriction message from newby...
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Sure you can contact marlboroza - you just need to earn yourself a single, solitary merit first. That's not asking much, is it?

147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: HashAltcoin Blackminer F1--best FPGA miner on: October 04, 2018, 05:16:40 PM
I joined their channel on discord.
I said " Hi sons , how long does the shipping take " ?
Instant ban / kick ... They might be legit , they might not , but they behave like assholes.
I was gonnna buy two pieces but I won't because I hate this behaviour.


"Hi sons", is very impolite for chinese

It would be impolite for many.

Or, one could use their f'ing brains and not get triggered over minor cultural mismatches, especially if you're running a business that ships internationally.

You want to see a real insult? Try explaining the Yulin festival to a Westerner. See how long it takes before you are doubled over from a kick to the kidneys.


148  Other / Meta / Re: [Guide] Reporting effectively on: October 04, 2018, 12:09:39 PM
I want to clear about one thing, copy paste own post will consider plagiarism or only spam ? I have seen few user just copy paste same post all over forum. Although I send PM to moderator , but I want to know clearly.
Note : moderators has taken action those profile are report by pm.

I've reported quite a few of these type of posts over the last 2 days - where a user writes the exact same two/three sentence reply in multiple threads - but so far none of the users (or posts) have been nuked.

And on that note, since this is Welsh's thread and he's a moderator in altcoin/announcements, I have a backlog of 43 unhandled reports mostly for plagiarism and duplicate posting as described above. Also, several of the users I reported appear to be engaging in paid bumping as they are having nonsensical conversations among themselves: amani, BTCFaucets, btokman, Klacik, CoinNextE, Tiny_Prism, etc.

Really, the threads themselves should be locked as happened in the Roomdao case I relentlessly pursued a couple months ago.

EDIT - originally posted in the wrong thread so I moved it here.
149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sprouting Bitbean is 10X more profitable than mining on: October 03, 2018, 10:01:52 PM
I bought 5000 BITB in two lots of 2500 back in March and February, spending around $38 total, IIRC. It's now worth $16 and I haven't received a single sprout in all that time, despite that the wallet has been synced and running more or less continuously on a laptop I set up specifically for running wallets. So, this experiment has played out exactly as I expected based on the amount of money I was willing to put into it...  Grin


You're doing something wrong... or you aren't holding enough coins to allow for sprouting, possibly.
I bought over a million coins mid july, and I've been sprouting in batches of 1000 every couple of days ever since. It's held its value fairly well too in the grand scheme of bear market crypto so I'm not down much at all.

Working as intended, I'd say!

Yeah, two key things you did different from me: you bought at a much more attractive price - I was wrong, my average cost was closer to 0.01 per BITB, or $50 total - and you bought way more of it. I have considered buying more over the past few months to give me a better chance of sprouting, but seeing as this project doesn't do anything new or have an interesting use case I haven't bothered.
150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sprouting Bitbean is 10X more profitable than mining on: October 03, 2018, 06:44:08 PM
Bitbean hah, i saw this post too back in January and considered investing in it.

So, any inputs from those who did? Did you guys really earn something from this sprouting gig or did it's value tank like almost every other coin out there?

I bought 5000 BITB in two lots of 2500 back in March and February, spending around $38 total, IIRC. It's now worth $16 and I haven't received a single sprout in all that time, despite that the wallet has been synced and running more or less continuously on a laptop I set up specifically for running wallets. So, this experiment has played out exactly as I expected based on the amount of money I was willing to put into it...  Grin

151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Started][AirDrop#3 - 25th March] - Electronic Dollar(eDollar) on: October 03, 2018, 12:45:31 PM
It's dead, Jim...


152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Lethean (LTHN): The Safest Way To Be Online. P2P VPN on: October 03, 2018, 11:53:35 AM

I read the latest news update and the final product is nearing completion. Lethean will be included in the very few blockchain projects that have a real working product. Unfortunately, I wonder why there's not much community activity in this thread. I also rarely hear or read about this project. Are you guys even marketing this thing? It's a pity if not.

most of the action is on discord.
please join our server.

A lot of the projects I have been following for months seem to have all but abandoned their ANN thread while still having a very lively Discord server (e.g. - TRTL, DERO). Discord is great for chatting but not so great for in-depth discussions or disseminating news (lol - no one clicks the stickied posts) while the ANN thread is less good for developing a sense of community but much easier to have a real discussion. In other words, the two media are complementary, not substitutes for each other.

153  Other / Meta / Re: The merit does not come? on: October 01, 2018, 10:27:58 AM
Hmm... well, I hate to be the one to say this, but the OP has proved once again that old-school trolling always works.
154  Other / Meta / Re: Is there any point in reporting spam megathreads? on: September 29, 2018, 01:28:52 PM
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This is the kind of thread that could have been nipped in the bud by a dedicated board mod looking out for these kind of things. This thread could have been locked on page 5 without losing any quality content. Instead, it remained open for another 1000+ shitposts.

You've persuaded me that locking is better than nuking. While nuking spam megathreads would harshly punish the spammers, it would also discourage those who participated in good faith, which kind of misses the whole point of a forum, hence I am convinced.

That said, the thread I reported is still accumulating shitposts...

155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts on: September 29, 2018, 11:45:14 AM
Development is unbelievably good but marketing, so far, has been crap.
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With respect to bad marketing - do you have any suggestions? I'm not saying you're wrong but I have yet to see any marketing that's been effective except for a bull run.
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I said marketing has been crap because there basically hasn't been any, though I don't entirely agree that there is no point to marketing except during a bull run. In fact, it has been my experience that marketing is most important during bearish periods - along with product development, of course - to pull away from the weaker competitors and establish mind-share.

Since I made the post above, some progress has been made in formulating a new marketing strategy by Joshy and Cryptonator1337 on the Dero Discord channel. I'm an engineer so about the last person you want to ask how to market something, but at this point even putting sign-spinners on a few street corners would be a step up.  Grin

156  Other / Meta / Re: Is there any point in reporting spam megathreads? on: September 28, 2018, 03:57:21 PM
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I think if they don't get paid a couple of times most of them will just spam harder or in different boards.

Maybe, but that's why I said there would be some short term pain. Besides, any other solution than us reporting entire threads for deletion will require changes made to the staff and/or forum (e.g. - hiring more mods).

I regularly report spam mega threads and they always get locked or trashed. I don't think the issue here is the mods not trusting us. I think simply having a dedicated board mod who would monitor threads and regularly lock or trash then before they become spam mega threads would be a big step forward.

The thread I provided as an example above didn't start off as a spam megathread, but it certainly became one at some point in its 58+ pages, hence I don't think preemptively nuking threads is the right approach. Also, there won't be any pain suffered by the sig campaign spammers unless you let them spam for a bit first.

What clearly isn't going to work is what @Lafu did - reporting hundreds of posts in one thread. That's way too much work for all involved and, besides, this is a fail in principle: we should not be spending as much or more time fighting spam as it would cost to simply read it.

157  Other / Meta / Re: Is there any point in reporting spam megathreads? on: September 28, 2018, 01:34:11 PM
Might I propose a not-so-radical solution that can actually be accomplished without the intervention of staff?

We need to report the OP of spam megathreads in bitcoin discussion while hilariousandco needs to trust our assessment and nuke the thread.

Once enough threads are nuked the shitposters will miss their sig campaign quotas and not get paid.

And once they don't get paid enough times they will quit joining campaigns.

There will inevitably be some butthurt from legitimate posters, especially those who participated in the first few pages of a thread, but think of this as short-term pain for long-term gain.


EDIT - I've reported one thread in bitcoin discussion as a test case - "What if Government bans Bitcoins?" [sic] - which I've quoted the OP in case the thread is, indeed, nuked:

Looking at the decentralized nature of crypto-currencies,Wonder if govt bans Bitcoins in future??Is it possible let's say by blocking all sites which relate to Bitcoin wallets/payments etc over the internet.In that case what would happen to our existing coins held in those wallets??

158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]HoweyCoins: the only BitcoinTalk-endorsed ICO - GUARANTEED PROFIT on: September 27, 2018, 03:41:31 PM

The white paper is here.  Take your time, read it thoroughly.  It's a wonderful tale of white sandy beaches, tropical sun, a brilliant night life, sex, intrigue, and dragons.

Don't forget the hookers and cocaine! Can't let XMR have all the fun!

159  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: September 27, 2018, 12:05:20 PM
This person is a serial shitposter, here's one of my favorites from today:

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Until God not falled down from sky the ethereum will not fall too anytime soon Wink

I guess this bozo thinks that ETH going from $1300 to $200 is just a refreshing dip?

Also, read the referenced posts in his negative trust - what a scumbag!

160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: HashAltcoin Blackminer F1--best FPGA miner on: September 27, 2018, 10:43:03 AM
Looks like Dwarf 2.0. If you send the OP money for this thing before a trusted BCT member has reviewed it then you deserve to lose your money and be made fun of mercilessly until you rage quit the forum.

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