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1121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 21, 2022, 04:28:53 AM
Hey now!  They can hock the farm of draft picks for the next 5 years.  I'd be okay with that...  It is Cleveland, after all.  Grin

Wouldn't be the dumbest thing they ever did! Cheesy


OK so 2 people have not joined the league yet, everyone want to post the name of your team so I can keep track.
Also I made the league public viewable in case anyone wants to share the link while its running.
1122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2022, 12:59:56 AM
what you guys think of BIP300 and BIP301 ?

https://www.drivechain.info/

Don't know anything about them but just read this

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Transfers from sidechain back to the mainchain (ie, from Layer 2 back to Layer 1) are not done via verifiable proof

And that doesn't sound good to me.
1123  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 20, 2022, 05:58:50 PM
I'm thinking after this dip the Llama will be posting.



I could use a reverse indicator right now supported by maths and science.




My electricity just went from 11 to 15.6 c/kwh (a 42% increase)...I can handle it, but it is a $400-500 monthly bill during summer. Natural gas is also up, but not as catastrophically as in Europe for clear reasons.

They really are doing a good job of making investing in a solar system worth it.
1124  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] Bitcoin Layer 1 Privacy - concepts, ideas, research, discussion on: August 20, 2022, 03:09:09 PM
Why, if I said I paid and you say I didn't and I release my side and you don't release yours then although there is not 100% proof you did not get paid it looks shady as hell.

You can either have privacy or you can have proof. You can't really have both. Which was why I also pointed out privacy might be better on L2.
If you don't trust me or I don't trust you then here you go it's all in public, if we do then it's the same transaction but on L2
Or a simple private / not private switch on L1. Whatever.

But if either side can disclose without permission of the other don't think it's private. It's just more limited visibility.

-Dave

If there was no transaction then there would be no key to release then by extension would you have the person saying they never received having to give up their private keys to prove the transaction never existed?

I guess a checksum could be incorporated into the chain to prove wallets that store all transactions as being kosher but otherwise then you could just get into wallet hacking and fraudsters would be all over that.


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The main difference I noticed was grin being considered fairly weak for privacy as it hides historic information and transaction amounts but those can be gathered before a transaction is confirmed

This is quite wrong. An accurate overview of what Grin and Monero hide can be found at
https://forum.grin.mw/t/scalability-vs-privacy-chart
which also shows how scalable various blockchains are.

I have not kept up on grin, with that being said are you stating that a listener can no longer store transactions for chain analysis?
1125  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] Bitcoin Layer 1 Privacy - concepts, ideas, research, discussion on: August 19, 2022, 08:53:29 PM
This is not an altcoin discussion; its sole goal is trying to find one or more L1 privacy solution candidates for Bitcoin.

Pretty tough not to mention alts in this discussion as they are usually the best place to test out ideas.

Considering Monero has used just about every form of privacy tech that was originally suggested for Bitcoin I think discusing how those techs are working out and which can be successfully imported.

And of course alternative techs like ZK-Snarks and ZK-Starks are good candidates for discussion and a discussion about Z-crap (w00ps slipped) would not be out of order when trying to gauge whether Zk-Snarks is mature and understood enough to trust.


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Layer 1 privacy concepts that could / do work in Bitcoin:

    CoinJoin (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CoinJoin) (Greg Maxwell): combine transactions to hide who pays whom - usable today
    CoinSwap (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321228.0) (Greg Maxwell): swap coins with someone else to get new transaction history - usable today
    Confidential Transactions (https://web.archive.org/web/20200502151159/https://people.xiph.org/~greg/confidential_values.txt) (Greg Maxwell): hide transaction value - sidechain / softfork needed
    MimbleWimble (https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/wizardry/mimblewimble.txt): complete new protocol for confidential transactions and smaller transactions - big fork needed (? To-do: look into how it was done on LTC)

You need to add bulletproofs to this list, not sure why its not there.[/s] NVM I see why, considering it a subset.

I'd really like to hear GMaxwells current thoughts on this subject.
1126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2022, 07:38:10 PM

Fucking politics. In this day and age,  I just get annoyed about it. Post about the weather or something, anything but fucking politics...




So hows this climate change working out for everyone?

This shouldn't be political at all.
1127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Jimmy Garoppolo reportedly ignored coaches after getting his big contract on: August 19, 2022, 07:05:19 PM

No way San Fran trades him within the division.  It's rare to have any trades within the same division let alone a competent quarterback who would be circling those games on his calender every year.  Would be fun to watch just can't see it happening.  I can see Cleveland trying to maybe pull something off since Watson is pretty much out for the first 3 quarters of the season. 

Cleveland cannot afford JimmyG, San Fran WAY overpaid for a bench warmer.
1128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2022, 04:16:18 PM
‘I don’t see justice in this war’: Russian soldier exposes rot at core of Ukraine invasion.

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Pavel Filatyev knew the consequences of what he was saying. The ex-paratrooper understood he was risking prison, that he would be called a traitor and would be shunned by his former comrades-in-arms. His own mother had urged him to flee Russia while he still could. He said it anyway.

“I don’t see justice in this war. I don’t see truth here,” he said over a tucked-away cafe table in the Moscow financial district. It was his first time sitting down in person with a journalist since returning from the war in Ukraine.


“I am not afraid to fight in war. But I need to feel justice, to understand that what I’m doing is right. And I believe that this is all failing not only because the government has stolen everything, but because we, Russians, don’t feel that what we are doing is right.”

Two weeks ago, Filatyev went on to his VKontakte social media page and published a 141-page bombshell: a day-by-day description of how his paratrooper unit was sent to mainland Ukraine from Crimea, entered Kherson and captured the seaport, and dug in under heavy artillery fire for more than a month near Mykolaiv – and then how he eventually was wounded and evacuated from the conflict with an eye infection.

By then, he was convinced he had to expose the rot at the core of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. “We were sitting under artillery fire by Mykolaiv,” he said. “At that point I already thought that we’re just out here doing bullshit, what the fuck do we need this war for? And I really had this thought: ‘God, if I survive, then I’ll do everything that I can to stop this.’”
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“It’s very important that someone became the first to speak out,” said Vladimir Osechkin, the head of the human rights network Gulagu.net, who helped Filatyev leave Russia earlier this week. That also made Filatyev the first soldier known to have fled Russia due to opposition to the war. “And it’s opening a Pandora’s box.”

This week the Russian investigative site iStories, which Russia has banned from the country, has published a confession from another Russian soldier admitting on camera to shooting and killing a civilian resident in the Ukrainian city of Andriivka.

Filatyev, who served in the 56th Guards air assault regiment based in Crimea, described how his exhausted and poorly equipped unit stormed into mainland Ukraine behind a hail of rocket fire in late February, with little in terms of concrete logistics or objectives, and no idea why the war was taking place at all. “It took me weeks to understand there was no war on Russian territory at all, and that we had just attacked Ukraine,” he said.

(Not going to quote the entire interview, click and read.)





That line just says it all!
1129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2022, 04:08:29 PM
Not sure when this is from but gas price comparison across Europe.



Can't help but notice those governments who complain about Russia the most are also forcing its citizens to pay the most.

The Netherlands sits on the largest natural gas field in Europe but that also doesn't help gas prices there. Much of it closed after light earthquakes but Germany is still getting some.


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Over the last 25 years The Netherlands spent 600 billion Euros on immigration & over the last 70 years the government made around 420 billion Euros from this largest gas field in Europe.
It is estimated between 2020-2040 The Netherlands will spend another 600 billion Euros on immigration.

Understand why governments are broke now, why citizens are starting to go broke and why BTC isn't rising at the moment?

The left want more hotels to be converted to immigration centres and the greens want you to go cold. People keep voting conservative but the greens and left wingers under direction of the WEF constantly get their way.

 Roll Eyes

And yet...

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The Netherlands as the world's fifth happiest country

 This year sees the country achieve a score of 7,415 out of 10. Interestingly, researchers found that 97,6 percent of respondents from the Netherlands felt at peace with their life, while 86,9 percent felt the various aspects of their lives were in balance.

https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutch-expat-news/netherlands-once-again-one-happiest-countries-world


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Why is the Netherlands a happy country?
This is due to the citizen's employment satisfaction, social support, mental health and well-being. The Netherlands has performed well in the generosity index, GDP per capita, social support, and the corruption index, making it one of the least corrupt European countries next to Finland and Denmark.

https://allaboutexpats.nl/top-10-happiest-countries-netherlands/
1130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2022, 04:03:28 PM
When 25

As long as we never see Vegeta again I can deal. Smiley


1131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 19, 2022, 01:10:22 AM
Bitcoin could go up. In which case it might go up more.

Or it could go down. In which case it might go down more.

Or it could go sideways.



Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science bitcoin??

Some call him Tim.




...

If there is a heaven ... and our actions are taken into any account whatsoever... these things are not actions in the plus column for old cAPS.


EVIL! Grin
1132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2022, 10:19:36 PM
I was once going camping for a weekend so decided to grab enough burger King to last the weekend but didn't want it to get all soggy in the cooler like they do.

So I told the counter person to give me 10 Whoppers unmade and she said I can't do that.

After a fruitless argument I told her to get the manager.

The manager said the same thing and no amount of explaining it didn't matter if it was made or not i'm buyying the same thing.

The manager also refused to budge until I said "I WANT IT MY WAY!".

The manager acquiesced.

True story, glad I remembered that catch phrase.

Whoppers on a bonfire were damn good. Cheesy
1133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2022, 07:19:00 PM
The real SHIT Coin .

In South Korea University ( Ulsan National Institute of Science and Technology (UNIST)) there is a toilet that converts human waste into energy and rewards people with cryptocurrency Ggool.


"An  average person defecates about 500g a day, which can be converted to 50 litres of methane gas, the environmental engineer said. This gas can generate 0.5kWh of electricity or be used to drive a car for about 1.2km (0.75 miles)." Source

Ggool is really what a shit Coin is!!!

https://decrypt.co/75559/the-real-shitcoin-south-korean-toilet-turns-faeces-into-digital-currency

Ironically the only shitcoin that actually has value which is backed by something.

He said "backed"  hehh heh... huh. hehh.

Funny, I'm downloading Mike.Judges.Beavis.and.Butt-Head right now to check it out. Smiley

EDIT:

Ha, it was dummer than I remember but a funny flashback anyway. Cheesy
1134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 18, 2022, 05:06:39 PM

Don't quote the Cuntonian begger, he's on ignore for a reason.

Not to mention the fact he knows less than anyone else here.

Thats supported by maths and science.




Apparently Mickey d's changed in 2018 (from a quick check) to what they now call 100% beef which in actuality is 30% beef and 70% fat to make weight as hamburger can be called 100% beef no matter what the beef fat content unlike Ground Beef which is regulated to not be sold with more than 30% fat content.

So basically they just changed up the scam a bit and cut out the earthen and replaced it with fat.

Still I'm sure its alot healthier than it was.

Of course this doesn't absolve them from starting the entire bait and switch scam in the first place.

There is a special place in hell for the leaders that show others how to bait and switch basic necessities like food.

There is a reason people that live on Mikey D's look like this.

1135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 18, 2022, 03:20:49 PM
Oh I forgot to mention, THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 55) IS OUT NOW!

https://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-55



You should not mention hitbtc as a viable exchange in any shape or form, it is a scam exchange that has been selectively scamming the community since day 1 and is tied to the bytecoin scammers.

By mentioning it n00bs may take that as a tacit endorsement and think it is a safe alternative.

When reporting you have to always remember that your words convey authority on the subject and will therefore have an assumed trust level which conveys a responsibility to make sure your words cannot be misconstrued.


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A number of exchanges are reported to not be allowing XMR withdrawals after the network upgrade. According to MoneroFox, exchanges that currently allow withdrawals and deposits are:

    Kraken

    NiceHashEx

    Bitfinex

    HitBTC

    Gate

    TradeOgre

It has also been reported that after a short delay, Binance are now allowing withdrawals and deposits too.
1136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 17, 2022, 07:34:55 PM
Are you saying that only fast food outlets make the food you buy look better in promos / packaging?

Look at more than half of the slop for sale in your local supermarket.

The only way to be guaranteed to have "good" food is to buy fresh and the least processed raw foods available.
Even then, the cooking methods used can also be questionable if they are actually good for you.

Is barbecuing bad for your health?
https://healthiertalk.com/barbecuing-bad-you-2158/

Even though McDonalds now claims to use only 100% beef in their burgers often I find their food makes me feel a bit crap the next day.
I don't have this problem with five guys at all. But then their burgers cost about 5 times as much also.

They led the way and once one scumsucking corp. gets away with fucking the masses the others inevitably follow if for no other reason then the margin competition.
Its a race to the bottom that needs to be defended at the outset and thats whats wrong with this country.
Allowing politicians to get bribed is what started this shit and its going to end with most of us poisoned and fighting for scraps in a fucking wasteland.
We cant even drink fucking rain water anymore, borders do not protect shit. Anyone that cant see this world becoming uninhabitable for us on a global scale is either blind or a fucking piece of shit liar with an agenda.

BTW, shrink quoted pics.
1137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Jimmy Garoppolo reportedly ignored coaches after getting his big contract on: August 17, 2022, 04:37:47 PM
Interesting stores about Jimmy G.  I however don’t think that it will have any effect on his trade market. They will of course keep him as one of their players on the 53 man roster, as sooner or later someone is going to need his services and they will get a sold pay day in return (maybe a few picks, not sure they’ll get more than a 2/3rd rounder).

& thank you, that time from will work for me. Two drafts back to back, I dig it.

Seattle would be a real good fit for him, Lock and Geno are both garbage.
1138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 17, 2022, 03:29:13 PM
One of best use case of Augmented Reality I have seen so far. HoloLamp company has created a device that will help you view dishes listed in Restaurant menue in 3D form via AR interface. This will gives you fair idea of how food looks like and serving size.

https://twitter.com/ValaAfshar/status/1559700905045491713?t=a05wNU0h9DkWghA00f5WyA&s=19

/crochety old man mode [on]

 Nice.  Soon enough we wont even need an imagination.



 I'll have this thing you call "surreal hamburger with frenchified fries".

 This is really great tech for people who have never seen a hamburger, sushi and perhaps tech since the 19th century.



 


WELL, to be fair do you think people would actually get up and go out for Mcdonalds if they just looked at a picture of what the garbage they're going to be handed as opposed to the doctored marketing photos these corporate scumsuckers are bait and switching?






1139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 17, 2022, 02:22:44 AM
fuck off buddy

spoken like a true gentleman

Arrie must be rubbing off on Philip…

Buddys turned into a real little bitch lately.
1140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 16, 2022, 09:12:10 PM
Pussy pads, the next thing to distract the mindless masses now that the trans pissers are old hat.
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