I'll wait to see if the bitcoin price settles as it's gone down around £300, but it's still probably gonna be around £35-40 to join, but I'd like it to be at a nice round bitcoin-value.


big_daddy complied the table below. It's quite interesting. I missed out on the top 5 slots but had the most yellow caps. 23 players got a yellow cap and when there was only a little over 30 players that's pretty good going.



Ha. I've heard a lot of people tell me this already.


Most of the credit has to go to jeremypwr and Sportsbet for the offers. I just did my best to get the best deal for everyone. I'm sure this pool is going to make the upcoming season a lot more enjoyable for people   .

There's plenty of bitcoin related content on YouTube already. I think one related to the forum could be helpful, especially to Newbies. Helpful how-to videos much like the guides we already have but in video form. I'm still hoping the Newbie Welcome Message will get implemented at some point but we could include a video link there as well if someone did a video on how to get started here. Maybe there could be some cash prizes awarded for the best ones created or maybe merit dished out instead.

Just to clarify: it's just the user who gets the most points from the week that gets the $50 free bet. It's not that hard to do and many different users got the yellow cap last season. I think someone posted a table of all the users a few pages back.


Probably between 0.004 and 0.0045 but I'll see how much that's worth when I post the thread. Bitcoin is down a little but I'm sure it will be up and down for a while. I'm trying to aim for £35-40 in fiat value though.


The Premier League kicks off on the 12 of Sept so it'll be a month tomorrow. Maybe tomorrow would be a good day to post the sign-up thread.

The BitcoinGirl.Club account is banned so I'm sure the admins locked it at least. Not sure how long they take to restore it but it seems like a pretty clear cut case especially if BitcoinGirl.Club can send them a signed message.


Unlikely to get banned but the admins should have at least looked into that account and seen if it was tied to any others.

How many meals or one night stands can 0.1 get you for coming first place? Even 0.005 isn't much when you consider it's for an entire season. There's also ten winning spots, plus the Watford shirt and the chance to win a $50 bet every week. Sportsbet are also seemingly going to throw in the chance win an all expenses paid trip to any football match you want so there's a lot of great prizes to be won. Hopefully bitcoin will keep rising throughout the season making the pot even tastier.

Got 1 correct score and 3 correct outcomes from the four games played so good overall, but missed out on correct scores all by one goal which is pretty annoying as to move up the table correct results isn't going to be enough right now as most backed the favourites so most got points. Moved up two places but could have been 4 or 5 had the correct scores come in. Only 6.5 points behind 5th place but without correct scores that's going to be hard to achieve especially in the quarters where the fixtures look very difficult to predict..


I'd never heard of any of them either. Was a bit worried but they dominated the game.

Very soon. Tomorrow hopefully, but if you keep an eye on this thread I'll announce it here with a new link to sign up. There's a little over a month till the PL kicks off so you won't miss it  .


I'm sure we will match the 0.15 whatever the fee, but it'll probably between 0.004-0.0045 so that's £36.39 and £40.93 right now.

Anyone know when the line-ups get announced? They don't seem to have been yet. I won't submit my score until I see who's starting. I wonder if Bale will be on the bench? Real are stupid for not even benching him. They're also stupid for not loaning him out at least. Nobody is going to pay Bale's wages but I'm sure they could find someone to pay 10% or 20% of them at least and that's 10-20% they're saving if they have absolutely no intention of playing him. To be honest, if they're not going to play him they should just let him go anywhere that will have him. It's a damn shame he isn't playing football. He would be a nice addition to a team in the PL.



City should win, but I could see a draw maybe. Both teams to score in each half might be a nice one.

I doubt they can win this, but it will be interesting if they get an early goal or score first. I'd say a city win but it'll probably be close.


Isn't there only nine games left? If so,  that's a potential max 27 number of points. Bigdaddy is on 126 in first place so that's a 33 gap between him and me down in 13th place so impossible to catch him even if I tried. There's only 13 points between 2nd and 13th though so claiming a top 5 prize is possible for most of us if we do great and the ones above not so. I think bigdaddy has the number one spot in the bag though as that 20 point lead is nigh on impossible to catch even for examplens in second place.

Bitcoin price has gone up quite a bit the past few days so it probably won't be 0.005 unless it goes back down. 0.004 is currently £36.12 and 0.0045 is £40.61. Superbru doesn't seem to be letting users create a pool for the 2020/21 season yet so I'll probably wait for that before I start the sign up process.


This is the PL pool thread. You guys are in the wrong place like Indymoney said.

I didn't even know what had happened at first. Looked like it had gone wide and the keeper did one of those precautionary I had it covered anyway lads half-assed dives, then I saw the Fulham players celebrating and the replay and was like woah. But yeah, it was the keepers fault. When you do shit like this you're just asking for players to try catch you off guard. It's the same thing when keepers come off their line or out of their box because there's nothing going on, then a quick counter-attack from the other team leaves them open and vulnerable and they get lobbed. Saw it a couple of times last season. The play-off final game was pretty boring up until that goal. Don't really care who goes up or not but Brentford are a pretty small team really so it would have been nice to see them in the PL I guess. I think they would have struggled massively though and would have been one of those teams that goes straight back down.

Just the top 3 win something? It has to be at least top 5, but I'd like to do the top ten as outlined above. It would be nice to make it a bit more competitive and I feel with the way superbru score things it's a very close race with not many points in it, so it would be nice to at least give some consolation prizes for 5-10 spots. If the pool is much bigger this year (which I expect it to be) then it's going to be even harder to win a prize and with having a decent prize pot we can afford to pay bigger prizes. If we take in more than expected I'll probably bump up the top 5 prizes though (or maybe places 2-5 seeing as first place is double second place).


How would the lottery work?

$56 dollars isn't a lot. The shirts probably retail for more than that. And like I and others have said, it's for an entire season. There's 38 rounds in the Premier League so even at 0.005 that works out at £1.13 a week. Most people probably spend $50 on a meal out or taking their family to the cinema. I bet most gamblers here spend a lot more than £1.13 a week as well, and that's one thing I like about the pool. Nobody is breaking the bank here and you're not gambling with more than you can afford to lose. The difference between 0.005 and 0.004 is currently only £8.58 so if that's the difference between whether you play or not then I don't know what to say. I'm open to feedback from people and will try find a middle ground but $56 entry fee when you can practically win that back with one yellow cap seems a bargain to me. You have to remember the bigger the pot the bigger the prizes for everyone; the lower the entry fee the more people play and the less chance you have of winning something. Once I post the sign-up thread with the current prizes offered I'd be very surprised if we didn't get quite a bit of interest even at 0.005. Currently the only people who know about this are whoever has viewed this thread. I'll give users a day or two to chime in with their opinions but I want to get the Announcement thread up ASAP to maximise exposure and sign-ups and give people time to earn the entry fee if they don't have it yet (PL starts on the 1th so there's still plenty of time). I really don't want to lose people from the pool, especially over a tiny bit, but I'm also doing my best to make it more exiting and lucrative for people. I'll probably message the previous players and see what they're ok with. If we can get 20 previous users ok with 0.005 then I think that should be fine.


No problem, but most of the credit should go to jeremypwr and Sportsbet. They really went above and beyond with this one.

Well, you don't want too many users as it would be nice to keep it competitive. If 200 join then there's less people who would win prizes, though the more people that did join I would extend the winning spots to not make it too difficult to win something even if it's just a consolation prize or your money back or something.


I always open a new thread in Games and Rounds every year for sign-ups. This is just the discussion thread. I just wanted to get the opinion of existing users first so I can post the games and rounds thread with the price so people know what they're going to be paying. I'll be collecting the money in straight away this time as well. If the majority of the current users agreed that 0.005 is ok then I'd likely go with that. I might message all the current users later but if people can chime in here that would be better. 


The trouble is with that is who wants a wooden spoon, and also, the user who just gives up on the pool will probably win it.

Well I'm ok with 0.005 for sure and like you said it's a small price to pay for an entire season of fun, but I'd like to hear from everyone else before I set the price. I'll also speak to the new people who wanted to join and see what price-range they're ok with. I want to get the sign-up thread up and running ASAP but I need to set a price in stone. I'll see what the fiat value is like tomorrow but if a fair few people don't really want to go the more expensive route it'll probably between 0.0035 = £30.52 to 0.004 = £34.87 and I can just round it up or down to £30 to £35. If anyone has any other suggestions feel free to post them.

Whoever hacked his account committed a criminal act by doing so. Admins don't have to disclose whatever info they find, but it should at least be looked into as they could have been stupid and left breadcrumbs leading them to other users. At the very least he needs his account back so they're going to have to look into fairly deeply to get it back to him.


I disagree, besides it would be more of a reputation issue to me and it would be nice to know who to not trust. What if there's clear evidence linking them to an existing user here and they're allowed to go on free with an unblemished rep.

I was just waiting for confirmation from the sponsor as I didn't want to announce something and get everyone's hopes up for it to fall through. So, the good news is that Sportsbet will be sponsoring the next pool. They've agreed to put 0.15 into the pot, provide a $50 free bet to every yellow cap of the week, and also participants will get a free Watford shirt upon entry if they want one (and subject to availability). Now, my question to you guys is how much should we charge as an entry fee? The prizes this year are much better and may attract a lot of interest so I don't want to make the entry fee too low and I don't want to price people out of joining, but it would be nice to find a middle ground. Whatever the entry fee is is probably worth the shirt alone and all you need to do is win one yellow cap and you're in profit. I've tabled out below the potential entry fee, how much it currently is in GBP and how big the pots will be depending on how many users join. Last year we had a little over 30 so I think we should easily get that minimum this year and I already have a handful of new users ready to join, but we could get many more as the prizes are quite lucrative as I'm sure you will agree. I think if we get 40-50 users I will pay the top ten places out as well, but 5-10 will likely be consolation prizes. I may also do the consolation prizes again for the top 5 highest scorers from a round overall but I'll see how much is left in the pot and don't forget you still get the $50 free bet to the weekly winner. If we only get around 30 users I'll probably just do the top 5 again and top 5 weekly highest round scorers like last year, but I think we should have no problem getting 30 users+ and I'm hoping we can get at least 0.15 from users to take the pot to 0.3.

Potential entry fee and current value:

0.003 = £26.16
0.0035 = £30.52
0.004 = £34.87
0.0045 = £39.26
0.005 = £43.62


0.003 x 30  = 0.09
0.003 x 40 = 0.12
0.003 x 50 = 0.15

0.0035 x 30 = 0.105
0.0035 x 40 = 0.14
0.0035 x 50 = 0.175

0.004 x 30 = 0.12
0.004 x 40 = 0.16
0.004 x 50 = 0.2

0.0045 x 30 0.135
0.0045 x 40 0.18
0.0045 x 50 0.225

0.005 x 30 = 0.15
0.005 x 40 = 0.2
0.005 x 50 = 0.25

Assuming a pot of 0.3 prizes will likely be as follows:

1st 0.1
2nd 0.05
3rd 0.04
4th 0.03
5th 0.02

6th 0.01
7th 0.01
8th 0.01
9th 0.01
10th 0.01

= 0.29

Maybe 0.01 for the highest scorer of a round over-all or use towards paying fees. I'm open to suggestions though. What do you guys think? I'm thinking of aiming for 0.0035 -
0.004, but 0.005 is a much more nicer number  .

No, only admins. You can ask them to look into it, but they likely wont. Whoever the hacker is they probably used a proxy or something anyway, or at least they would if they were half-smart. I'd be surprised if they were using the same connection that is linked to their other accounts but you never know.


What else is there to release, but he obviously had a motive for realising it and has some personal beef with the people involved/exposed.


I'd be interested to know which one it was as well, or how his email was likely compromised.

You're right, it doesn't, but lets look at this objectively. Does he have any real reason to so this, and then spam message various people about it? I can't be certain for sure but I'd lean towards his account being compromised in some way as it doesn't really make sense to me why he would do this. Of course I could be wrong but he knew he would make a lot of enemies/lose friends here and also probably compromise the reputation of his account in the process. Take note of nutildah's post above as well about the smiley etc. I think he just got stung here. The question now is who hacked his account because that is some pretty shady stuff over some petty shit.

Quarters might be but not the rest of the games before it:



I would have liked to watch all those matches. I'll probably watch the City/Madrid and Barca/Napoli as I think those will be more entertaining/closer.


What about City's pedigree? They've been on fire recently as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Real went through but it's going to be a hell of a tough game for them playing away and also with a goal deficit to get past. Isn't Ramos suspended as well. Either way my money is on City here.