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1161  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team on: October 24, 2023, 07:48:30 AM
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Nice hits.

Over 1,000x is a good milestone on Pragmatic Provider, even my self only can reach under 500x cannot reached that number with more than 4-6 month. Just really hard to get that number meanwhile other really easy.

You love following the challange or contest, good luck for the prize.

Thank you! I did finish in thwe top 20:



And I received additional $50 to my already big win,



because I'm Level two verified on Stake.

How do you think Stake ranks compared to other casinos in the market? More and more casinos are accepting cryptocurrencies.

Stake ranks quite high, to tell the truth. If you read an article about crypto gambling in one of the major sources of information, Stake is mentioned almost always.
1162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: October 24, 2023, 06:38:48 AM
I think, I'm one of those more than 90% of gamblers, who just play for fun and have no problems with it whatsoever. As for the gambling addicts, like you, I also hope our advises help some of them. The main advice I would give: don't even try to make gambling your major income.
Thank you for the advice. Yes, that is the main advice we must always remember when gambling. Only use the money you can afford when gambling is another advice we should always remember. This made me remember an incident that happened to a close friend who gambled excessively, causing him to lose a lot. Fortunately, he understood his mistake and decided to reduce his gambling.

Good for him. It's a rare case when someone can cope with his gambling addiction without a professional help.

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I thought the same. But several tournaments with high skilled players made me to think one more time.
In poker you are playing against over gamblers and it is much more difficult than sport betting. You results depends on luck, over players skills, your skills, your well-being, etc. As the results you can`t only win. With money management it is possible to get some income, but it don`t looks stable. In the sport betting it is easier, but you have to work really hard to get stable and nice income. May be i had to spend more time practicing, but i don`t sure in the result.

That's true that in poker your result depends on all those things, your well-being included. With purely luck-based games like slots it's not the same. You can feel horribly and still win big. In any case, you should never treat gambling as a major income.
1163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A person who won 600k$ in lottery on: October 24, 2023, 05:52:03 AM
~ When I win $60 I just spend it without thinking too much, but winning $600k is when you have to think.

I also think that things for Bitcoin can rise to that price more or less, around 2024, of course the Halving will do its part and it is a good opportunity for things to happen, so in this order of ideas we can intuit that, of course $150k then it could be that things could happen, I have always thought that this could happen, for me things with Bitcoin can be very Valuable , there is also the possibility that this year in December it could go up, I think that if they continue Thus , the Movements can reach a good price, it can even reach almost $70k, of course the fundamentals are the ones that can basically change any scenario for the market, I am a big believer in Bitcoin, and it may be that this volatility plays in this favor. Maybe, because the price is Rising and is maintaining itself, it is good for me, because it means that things are on the right track, now in the case as you say, $600k is the best that can be done, or well What I would do would be to invest a good part in Bitcoin, because I know that it will rise to more than $100k, it is something that is Known, but when I don't know, but it will happen.

I agree with you, mate. If someone wins $600k, a good part of it should be invested in Bitcoin. Now, when the price is rising, it becomes more obvious.

So because we are in a society where no one tells you what to do with that money, it is likely that things will not turn out as they would, but having a large profit of $600k is to not go crazy, because as they say, money It ends, and after it ends, how are you going to continue living a life like this? If you were already used to having a high level where you only used the money to spend and spend, it is impossible,

Idk, I think it's totally normal to spend money on whatever you want when you've won big. You shouldn't worry about how to keep living on this level later. Maybe you won't be able to carry on on that high level, but you'll have your good time at leas for a couple of weeks, and in my opinion that's more than enough.

that is why good investment is what always has to be considered, for that reason when we are doing worse, you cannot spend , you have to do many things for investment, to consider buying gold, good roots, but I believe more in bitcoin and technology, because I know that the world will not remain stagnant economically, it will be focused on the new .

I agree with this absolutely.
1164  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🥊 Fury vs Ngannou 🥊 (Saturday, 28 October) on: October 24, 2023, 05:34:31 AM
1. Fury
2. Round 4
3. 1
1165  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🏎️🏁 Mexican Grand Prix 🏁🏎️ Prediction Contest on: October 24, 2023, 05:32:02 AM
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No
5. Yes
6. 15 seconds
1166  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 Official Partner of Newcastle United Football Club on: October 24, 2023, 04:45:23 AM


Here is another one of my betslips with a free bet I had.  Grin  These days things are going on really well for me in betting. ~

Congrats on winning your free bet, and with pretty nice odds too!

I'm chasing high odds and keep losing again and again lately.



~

That's exactly what I'm taking about! Smiley

Going to switch to lower odds, like about 10.00 or so, for a change.
1167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 24, 2023, 04:01:23 AM
So, Bard AI has helped me to earn 3 points in the latest Matchday:



It's not like Bard predicted the correct score. Bard predicted a 3-1 win for Bayern Munich in the FC Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg, but since it said: "but it could be a close match", I predicted 4-1 and was right about the Goal Difference and therefore earned 3 points. I'm happy with the result, to be honest. Probably will be using Bard more for my future predictions. (I hope it's not against the rules).

I am totally sure that Bard won't give you an edge. It is as much rolling the dice as everyone else is who has a good grasp of the teams and the league. At best, I would say. I think knowing a league and knowing some of the minor details of every team already gives you an edge over the AI. This might change in the future, but not for now.

Next season we could add some accounts and operate them with AI and see what the results are at the end of the season. Could be worth a little experiment although I am quite sure what the outcome will be.

You are correct, it's this point Brad is pretty much useless for predicting the outcomes of the games. Bard is almost always predicts  2-1 in favour of the strongest team. It predicted 3-1 win for Bayern Munich in the FC Bayern Munich vs SC Freiburg, but it only happened once, and Bard wasn't correct in that case anyway. Maybe it's my prompt, but something makes it impossible to use Bard for making correct predictions. I will try with some other promts, though, but my hopes are not high.

I think it is because AI-systems don't have an information advantage and they probably also have issues with sources spreading false information. These AI-systems are also probabilistic, which means that any smallest deviation from the seemingly most likely outcome would make them be a bad system.

Probably this is the case. What I found strange was that even if I was telling Bard "This player isn't playing in that match. Please take that into account and now tell me what are the most probable All-time Goalscorers", Bard was, nevertheless, listing that player among them again? I see it as some kind of a temporary glitch. But at this point, Bard is impossible to use and ChatGPT doesn't know anything about present or future.

This table is outdated, but I still think it provides a decent overview of the total score distribution across several leagues. Interestingly though, the most common result is a 1-1 draw. But if AI then gathers some data and understands that there is a favorite and an underdog, it will just go with the 2-1 most of the time because it is the second most likely result for the years presented in that table.

I think it is still very far from gathering real-time data and then include it in the outputs. For example, what would a trained AS-system do if it learns that Kane and Sané will miss a game on short notice? It would be interesting if it corrects the total score one goal down or something like that. But all these are averages and really, I don't see the day coming when AI gets a 5-0 Stuttgart vs. Freiburg prediction right Tongue

Thank you for the link! I find that info very helpful.

I think you are right. AI will never predict something like 5-0.
1168  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] Flashmob for Willis Blockparty [Prices : 30mBTC] on: October 23, 2023, 06:07:30 AM
Blockparty 48 is ready to join.
Maybe now is a good time to join, as for example the difficulty of ckpool is at 127.0 so that a block find could be more probably.

If I understood the rules correctly, this should be OK. If it's not, apologies..

Bitcointalk Username: NeuroticFish
Blockparty Number: 48

I want to say the same.

Bitcointalk Username: Betwrong
Blockparty Number: 48
1169  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ Champions League ⚽ Newcastle v Dortmund ⚽ (Wednesday, 25 October) on: October 23, 2023, 05:55:34 AM
a. Draw
b. 1-1
c. Dortmund
d. Dortmund
e. Yes 
f. Same
g. Newcastle
h. 39'
1170  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: October 23, 2023, 05:49:03 AM
~ By a "decent bankroll" you mean art-savvy friends and relatives? Smiley I have those, but unfortunately failed to convince to take part. It's because it would take time, but they don't trust crypto currecies. I promised them 70% of the win, but firstly the win is uncertain and secondly they don't believe they will get anything even in the case of the win. Indeed, I can't guarantee them that their art-work will finish in the money. So, I'm doing it by myself. Smiley
I mean you can do it yourself, it is not "that" hard, it all just about wanting it. I am not saying that you can start today and end up winning next month, it may take some time but it has been going on for a long time, it's been years right? That means if you started when this started then you could have reached a point where you are a decent level designer at least, and could have drawn something that makes sense.

I believe that it is going to be something that would be hard for people to end up with having easier options, my only trouble is mr.roo and most of the time that is required in the images and if that character wasn't needed then I would have been easily getting a return and it would have been fine, but since I do not have that character in my assets, I would have to make him from scratch and I can't do that, it is a complicated character for me to be able to create from nothing, so I try to avoid it, that's beyond my expertise, but if anyone wants to start, now seems like a good time.

Indeed! It has been here for years. Big thanks to Roobet for this and other contests on this forum, btw. They have put a lot of their money in the various prize pools.

I myself suck at drawing, painting and craft art. My only hope is that the jury will find my works funny somehow, and that's why I keep participating. Smiley
1171  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Random BTC($12) Giveaway #3! on: October 23, 2023, 05:43:09 AM
Username: Betwrong

BTC Addy: bc1qe92249pu8jsp07u3z7tassel8djpasdx98v0eu

Thank you, mate!
1172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is horse racing so unpopular here and a bit of extra feedback on: October 23, 2023, 05:12:24 AM
I came across this thread only today, sorry. But it was really interesting to read through it.

~ Betting on horse racing is estimated to be over €100 billion annually.!!!!
And here we had users telling me betting on horse racing is dying.!  Roll Eyes
~

€100 billion annually? Wow! I didn't know about that!

As for your questions in the OP, I've never bet on horse racing before, but if it's free or you propose much better odds than anywhere else, why not, I would try my luck, I think.

My only worry is, what's in it for you? I'm afraid you'll be just losing your money, my friend.

Anyway, thanks for opening this topic! You've mentioned "shitposting" two times in your first post and it appears it helped to avoid that kind of behaviour here. Smiley
1173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: October 23, 2023, 04:06:56 AM
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Trump may be gaining steam and momentum, as so many predicted it could happen. In a normal world, we would agree those indictments would have ended his political career, but not in this bizarre context, he is getting more popular.

Well, the world has been like this for many thousands of years. People sympathize with the martyrs. Why? Because it's in our genes. Because those who didn't have this trait have died out more than a million years ago. Compassionate people are those who have survived. Now, this situation has been abused by some politicians for the last couple of millenia.

Also, Michelle has already confirmed in interviews she is not interested in going for the presidency and even if she tried, she won't be appealing enough to defeat Donald Trump, the democrat party is trying to go as safe as possible, with a white male with a long standing political career as Biden is.
It is kind of amusing you decided to toss some money on her and even she is not even running, you managed to get a win.

Yeah , gambling is an amazing thing sometimes. Smiley
1174  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: October 23, 2023, 03:31:00 AM
No one can be always lucky, we all know that. But what some people don't know is that as we can be lucky for a long period of time, the opposite is true as well. Regardless of how many times we failed in the past, we can fail even more times in the future. If we don't have sufficient money, we shouldn't chase big wins because they haven't happened for a long time before.

These are moments with successful series, also connected with psychology. As an example, when someone plays for even or odd, some people will always choose an odd number to bet if there was an even number before, while other players who use this strategy will always choose the same number as in the previous draw. This choice may indicate that some players believe that their successful streak will last, while others are waiting for their losing streak to end.

And both of them are wrong. Success is not lasting or ending because of what happened before. In gambling the future doesn't depend on the past. It's hard to grasp for an average human being because in real life the future does depend on the past. And people expect it from gambling too and keep wondering, why it's not working. It's not working because it shouldn't work, in the first place. In gambling  events are totally independent from each other.
1175  Economy / Economics / Re: Real estate vs cryptocurrencies vs business on: October 23, 2023, 02:52:22 AM
It's true that investing in Bitcoin is riskier than in real estate. But if we are of investing only what we can afford to lose, I would choose BTC still. Especially at this point, when Bitcoin costs 3 times less than not so long ago. We've been there, BTC was dropping from $20k to $3k, and then rising from there upwards to $70k some years  later. I don't think we can name areal estate that had risen so much in a relatively short period of time.
I agree with you. If you actually think critically about it, if you only have limited extra money as capital for investment it is best to choose Bitcoin. There are only a few good real estate investments that require small capital that falls within the good category that guarantees profit and these days the same goes for business. Hence, for small-time individuals who have a tight budget for investment capital and are not as knowledgeable regarding economics and the current state of the market, it is better to settle for BTC. Such a fact is one of the very reason as to why even students and middle-class individuals are drawn to BTC investments these days.

That's true. Bitcoin has made investors out of people who would never think of such a thing. It's because investment has never been so profitable. In earlier times only rich people could afford investing in something because real profit from that wasn't so big, and if you are poor, you can't invest $100 today to have $500 five years later. It wouldn't make much of a sense for a poor person. But with BTC, if someone would have invested $100 in the end of 2012, buying 10 BTC, 5 years later, in the end of 2017, it would cost $200,000.
1176  Economy / Economics / Re: Cracking the Code of Saving Money... on: October 22, 2023, 06:54:17 AM
You can't save money if you do it at the end, or use leftover money from your salary. If you want to save do it at the beginning, let's say cut 10% whenever you receive your income to a dedicated saving account. But this is under the assumption that your salary is enough for your basic needs. Otherwise, you'll end up with zero or even borrowing money, even when you already live frugally. Anyway, don't waste your time allocating your already small income (for those who need this advice), rather think more about how you get more money/income.

That's what I totally agree with. If you don't have enough money and you start saving from it, even from the beginning like you said, you'll make make your life miserable. And in that state it will be hard for you to work more, or work smarter, or to even think of more effective ways to make money.
1177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you cheat in gambling? on: October 22, 2023, 06:11:35 AM
There's nothing wrong with gambling itself. There are a lot of leisure activities that can be worse for you than gambling in the end. But if you are trying to cheat in gambling, either in land-based casinos or online ones, you have a good chance of turning your entertainment into disaster.
There is nothing wrong with gambling. The fault is the gamblers who cannot control themselves and use gambling to make money. Even though gambling is a tool for carrying out recreational activities known since ancient times, they only see people who have won from gambling games without thinking about how much money people have spent to get their big win. And if they lose a lot, they will look for ways to cheat the casino but they probably won't find it because the casino is always wary of fraudulent actions that some of its members might commit.

I think, in ancient times no one saw gambling as a recreational activity. Everyone wanted to actually win something with gambling. It's now, when people are smarter, they can treat gambling as entertainment. It's a pity that there are still those who want to make money from it and even those who want to cheat casinos or other players to gain money. It's like their mind is still there, in ancient times.

What I meant to say was that there's no excuse for cheating. The way of thinking like "they deceive us so we have the right to deceive them" is rubbish.
Yes, there is no reason to cheat. They must realize that so they don't try to cheat at the casino. That would get them in trouble especially if the casino found out. The casino would know for sure. Their account will be immediately blocked without notification, especially if the casino has discovered their cheat.

If you are cheating, it's either a casino, or your friends, or your wife will find out eventually. And even if they won't, this kind of behaviour will never bring you happiness.
1178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: October 22, 2023, 05:13:53 AM

A wise approach to gambling is to manage expectations and accept that luck is a key factor in the outcome of the game.

This is not always true. In poker, especially in the long run, skill plays much bigger part than luck. Some people say that the same is for sports betting, but I'm not sure about that. Although it's not 100% about luck in sports betting, that's for sure.

Understanding that gambling is not a surefire way to make money is an important step in avoiding overwhelming disappointment.

it is therefore important to treat gambling as a fun recreational activity, not as a primary source of income, by disciplining a realistic attitude towards gambling and avoiding dependence on outcomes, so as to reduce the pressure and stress associated with gaming. Awareness of the rules and risks involved is also important for making wise decisions when it comes to gambling.

I totally agree with you here. Even good poker players try to not see their winnings as a primary source of income. Although it's sometimes hard when it's millions.
1179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: October 22, 2023, 04:42:43 AM
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Believe me I know those feelings very well as I am a gambler as well, so I have felt the same urge to keep gambling after a big win as everyone else, but I know this does not lead us to any positive outcome, and since I know that is the case then I stop myself from following those impulses, and the more often you take this choice the easier it becomes, and eventually you are not going to even think about gambling your profits away after a big win.

Nicely put. I can confirm, this is exactly how it happens. If you always put at stake not more than you can afford to lose, then the longer your gambling career, the easier to restrain yourself from reckless gambling. It's like on autopilot already. Of course, there are sometimes glitches, and one day you lose several times more than you can easily afford to lose, but they happen happen rarer and rarer.
1180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? on: October 22, 2023, 04:01:21 AM
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It's actually interesting, what amount of money would be enough to cover all those computational resources? Would it be possible for an average person to weaponize this thing?

I'm afraid I don't know the calculation that can be applied to consumer-grade computational resources. But essentially, if one is able to get a profit, in which obviously the game prize would outweigh the computation resources and the casino-related fees, it should be doable for most people. Which surely decreases the playability of the online casino poker game itself.

But I mean, can we at least evaluate the costs. It is known that "the base strategy was computed in eight days, and at market rates would cost about $144 to produce", and to build that strategy Pluribus relied on offline self-play. But it is also known that Pluribus continues to learn in real-time during its online play. And my question is how much this real-time learning would cost? If Pluribus can win $1,000 per hour playing poker online, would it be enough to cover all the costs?
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