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1181  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best casino other than Stake . com? on: May 14, 2022, 10:58:14 PM
What is a great 100% trusted Crypto casino other than Stake . com? Why is is good, fast payouts, generous bonuses, no ID needed, etc?

Blackjack.fun is just the platform even newbies would like. It's good because it contains many games where blackjack (obviously) is where they are the best at. Their simple UI that already gives you information you need are something to consider since tons of casinos have complex website maps and routes. Fast payouts? Fast indeed. Plus, their hourly wager competition are stull on the run -- more favorable to those who are an avid gambler. KYC are of course whenever required.
1182  Economy / Gambling / Re: What is the difference between Referral and Affiliate? on: May 14, 2022, 10:27:46 PM
Both profits, but affiliates has more chance to make profit than referrals.
Affiliates has lots of benefits, it has wide range of rewards also like tiers/levels for every user they invites, the promo used of their invites, and you dont need to have an account on the platform, every bet they made, mostly it is used in different platform to promote the specific service, say a casino.
While referral is just a fixed rate or percentage whenever a user invites to the platform, every bet they made. A referrer also is a  existing user of the platform/casino.

I disagree. It is pretty much the same. It just depends on which is which was REFERRED. Basically, Referral System mentioned by the OP is the one A USER USES to get AFFILIATES. Hence Affiliates are those THAT ARE REFERRED. But some platforms uses both terms is just their referral system in such ways like "affiliate links" or "referral links" that pretty much pertains to the same thing.

From what I have encountered from the casinos here, mostly, you can interchange these terms.
The difference is how each casino give the benefits of their affiliates/referrals and how they define it.
So if you want to get the benefits of this feature, better check the conditions of the casino itself.
Because their terms vary from one another, the privileges attached to it and other things related to this category.


Indeed! If you ever tried to change the word "Referral" with "Affiliate", the meaning would be pretty much the same and even anyone that understand both terms would  understand the meanings regardless of words being interchanged. That's why I'm curious how some could see it be different to each other while if you use both the words the contextual meaning will end up the same.

Online casinos offer affiliates deals based on revenue sharing, CPA, or a hybrid of the two. CPA or cost-per-acquisition is a fixed commission paid for each depositing player.
Source: https://www.casinorankings.com/affiliate/
So we do already have the idea.

How about this? Will that pertain to a different thing?
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"Online casinos offer referral deals based on revenue sharing, CPA, or a hybrid of the two. CPA or cost-per-acquisition is a fixed commission paid for each depositing player."
1183  Economy / Gambling / Re: RATING of TOP 10 E-SPORTS SPORTSBOOKS on: May 14, 2022, 09:57:22 PM
I'm a Filipino
I hope you were not offended, it was just a joke by the way.


I'm not really offended tbh. It's just kinda the stereotype from the recent years since the issue of multi-accounting and scam arose that made the image of the Filipinos in the forum bad, therefore labeling all of us as bounty farmers and etc. I've been onto this forum and I've experience all the ups and downs on our local community hence I'd just want to prove those who sees us to be all the same were wrong.

Nevertheless, this sportsbooks and the article/website itself are pretty much the same argument as the "best casino" topic arose again recently which is and will always be subjective prior to the eye and experience of the gambler.
1184  Economy / Gambling / Re: What is the difference between Referral and Affiliate? on: May 14, 2022, 09:32:23 PM
Both profits, but affiliates has more chance to make profit than referrals.
Affiliates has lots of benefits, it has wide range of rewards also like tiers/levels for every user they invites, the promo used of their invites, and you dont need to have an account on the platform, every bet they made, mostly it is used in different platform to promote the specific service, say a casino.
While referral is just a fixed rate or percentage whenever a user invites to the platform, every bet they made. A referrer also is a  existing user of the platform/casino.

I disagree. It is pretty much the same. It just depends on which is which was REFERRED. Basically, Referral System mentioned by the OP is the one A USER USES to get AFFILIATES. Hence Affiliates are those THAT ARE REFERRED. But some platforms uses both terms is just their referral system in such ways like "affiliate links" or "referral links" that pretty much pertains to the same thing.
1185  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitLucy.com 🎰 100% Deposit Match ⚽🏏🥊🏀 7 EURO Free bet 777 users! 🔥 on: May 14, 2022, 09:07:09 PM
I think everybody needs just to be a bit patient. There are probably also a lot of legit users that are waiting on their withdrawal but I think Bitlucy didn't expect that their userbase would explode so much in such a short amount of time. Lets give them time to sort out of things.
Maybe have different opinion if you there and withdrawing have take 14 days still not process yet, I don't see have any casino gambling platform take two weeks for withdrawing process, actually maximum withdraw process just one day. Several gambling platform process withdrawing without few minutes and I think have trouble with Bitlucy, maybe if they have official Bitlucy account here better to respond why withdrawing get trouble and many member not get their money.

I think you should read the post above written by Royse777 which clearly states that Bitlucy is facing some issues and soon they will be able to overcome them. I am sure this casino will grow big time but currently they are having some major issues and i hope team will able overcome them as soon as possible.


I agree. Bitlucy have a huge room for improvement and I see that Royse is even taking the stand and proving all the allegations wrong by just simple being honest. I've just read that some newbies accuses them of being a scam despite the news and announcement provided by the team. They had been abused and these allegations shows and proves that Bitlucy's team is saying the right thing about what are the reasons the issues happened.
1186  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Something like na easy way to double your money on: May 14, 2022, 08:35:04 PM
Hi guys,

There is a "pyramid" on the rise.
Basically you make a registration on a website, which requires only an username, password and phone number.
The entry fee is minimum of 100 USDT. Each day you enter the website and "make 50 spins" you get 4% on the amount you have entered with.
In around 20-25 days you double the amount of USDT you have entered with
If you can get people to enter using your unique invitation code, you get bonuses.

I realize its a huge scheme, but if it lasts for enough time, you can manage to get yourself a nice amount on top of your money.
Anyone interested - message me Smiley

Please don't promote 'schemes' that you already know is pyramiding. Regardless of how much you can earn with that, pyramiding itself is and will always be a scam. Just with the fact that there is a MINIMUM ENTRY FEE required already proves it to be something we should be cautious with. Hence, you just basically promotes scam despite knowing it will end a scam.
1187  Economy / Gambling / Re: The latest cryptocurrency gambling on: May 13, 2022, 11:19:30 PM
Am getting piss off with all this fork coming over here to make threads without coming back to answer and reply to users if you looking for referrals then this is not the place for you sharing of such link is highly prohibited in this forum.

You cannot just force them to reply on each and every questions after he's just posted it lol. There are even announcement threads here that users just created and left undiscussed.

Hello and welcome to Bitcointalk! First of all get yourself a copper membership and contact a graphic designer in Services for an ANN thread. Good luck!

Hope you've reading the recent replies first. It is obvious that his link towards the platform is a referral like (which is obviously prohibited if you know the Gambling board rules in the forum). Coppermembership for someone who just posted a thread with even no connection to the main website is just nonsense.
1188  Economy / Gambling / Re: Pasino.com Provably Fair Seeding Event for Fortune Wheel on: May 13, 2022, 09:58:38 PM
Unfortunately your seeding event is missing one critical component: You didn't explain how you "interpret" a game hash. You should publish a function and game rules before the seed is picked. That way we know you can't tailor your interpret (i.e. hashToGameResult) function based on the future results

Maybe he hides a malicious line of code therefore he cannot provide it publicly. The idea of onchain gambling such as he explained can attract some new gamers with the words and terms they aren't familiar with. But they should be cautious that such idea had already been used by others whilst having a script that just rigs the game and just simply gets your money.

OP, you are not advertising enough in this community. You can boost your audience by posting a proper announcement thread for that purpose, if you really want to attract some attention. It's your only chance of getting noticed. Also, the increased exposure will raise your audience's interest. The more you reveal, the more chance you have of convincing your audience to visit your site, or even become a customer. Look around and check out some threads from other casinos if you're not sure how it's done. That'll give you an idea of what you need to do. Another option is to hire someone to design and post a proper ANN for you.

Also consider interacting more with the community and posting useful information, answering questions, etc. that some people above already suggested. The more you do, the better. There's a good deal of competition in that market, so you'll have to do a few things right to differentiate yourself and get more attention.


I don't think the game isn't even serious enough. There are tons of the same game like this that are way more entertaining and trusted. Better play on reputable than risk having your funds stolen.
1189  Economy / Gambling / Re: RATING of TOP 10 E-SPORTS SPORTSBOOKS on: May 13, 2022, 09:33:26 PM
How many people are giving the overall rating for each site? Is it a group of individuals or just one person?
They do it in Philippine 🤣
No offense Filipinos, it's just a random thinking. I remember I have seem a picture where a group of Filipinos in a round table working together in a bounty or something.

Honestly speaking I do not see the sites I would prefer to play. This looks like some random sites just to fill up the pages of the site. The design of the site is like a work of a teenager. I am not sure what are you going to achieve from this. At least buy a premium theme from themeforest before you do anything else.

I'm a Filipino but those platforms are just the common platforms for non crypto gamblers as they obviously offers USD and payments that non-crypto Filipinos has access to. Anyways, I do agree that these platforms advertised by the OP are not preferrable, especially on the eye of an experience crypto-gambler. But still, if those platforms manages to be an ease access to some, then we cannot blame their reviews and feedbacks. The OP's platform were indeed a non-professional and non-appealing website. Maybe a simple project created primarily to gather referral bonuses.
1190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: PROS AND CONS OF CRRYPTOGAMBLING. on: May 12, 2022, 11:07:27 PM
One of the biggest advantages is that you can of course gamble relatively anonymously. However, that is becoming less, more and more sites are asking for a KYC, whether mandatory or not. Another big advantage is that the payments are processed fairly quickly after 1 or 2 confirmations on the network and that you normally do not have to deal with limits when you want to deposit money into your account.

maybe, anonymity is getting compromised each day as casinos are implementing kyc to their players. however, there are still several reputable casinos here that don't strictly require kyc. but on the other hand, we can get good list of advantages of using an online casino. for me, you can access this anywhere you want, unlike physical casinos where you need to visit the site just to play. the list can go on and on but at the end of the day, every gambler has their own preferences. so it is up to them what is their priority at a given time period.
^ That is the problem now with the crypto casino., it seems they are the same with the cash casino, the spirit of decentralizing nature of crypto has been faded because of the implementation of KYC procedures which is you are totally revealing your identity. But that is right, not all of them are required KYC, but the problem is those gambling casinos that don't require KYC are usually prone to hacking and don't have a licensed gambling casino. Nevertheless, it is our choice on which we are preferred.

But it really isn't on a same page. Gambling and Crypto are like oil and water. Gambling often needs verification for a much stronger security and assurance that such user is of the legal age and would be following the Legal terms in gambling. Crypto, on the other hand, tends to be anonymous. Hence, the implementation of Crypto onto gambling and how anonymity is bypassed would still be an issue for decades ahead.
1191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler turns 60 pence bet into £157,865.59 on: May 12, 2022, 10:18:57 PM
As far as I see it, this is either fake news and / or a PR stunt for a certain casino or the Gambler did indeed make over 150k from 60 pence. If he did, then he was obviously EXTREMELY lucky, or maybe a time traveler from the future. I doubt anyone can predict so many winning situations so accurately. There are just too many variables in the way to make such predictions. I really hope it is real news because that man would be leading a nice, or rather decent retirement with that much cash. Really hope he does not decide to gamble it all again. I doubt he will keep his lucky streak up for long.

TLDR: Probably a PR stunt. I don't really believe it.

This can be done once you've managed to have someone give you information on who's gonna win. Some (or most) sports are rigged. I've just recently learned this from Ludwig (a streamer) from his youtube video about his experience in gambling in a casino at Los Angeles[1]. Rich people really get more richer because of such information. Therefore, I don't think it really isn't impossible, you just need great connections.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hyw6CfElpw
1192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: WE NEED A HALL OF FAME? on: May 12, 2022, 09:48:11 PM
just curious how will the ranking will be picked? are you gonna put a poll for people to vote on who will be the top 3 or are you just gonna put the ranking base on the money they won? anyway, I think the idea is fine. it would be interesting to see who'll be the winner or how much they won on major events, big poker tournaments, prediction pools, etc...

I think he's just pertaining to who has the most bets and predictions wins. The idea is indeed fine, but the process and how to make this one successful is tiring, unless it is a contest which the reports and proofs are by initiative of the contestant and there would be a prize pool as well. I wouldn't just do such initiative just for the "HALL OF FAME" title. What if I had thousands of winning bets and predictions?
1193  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crypto Bet: A wider Array of Altcoins are being usef on: May 12, 2022, 09:19:37 PM
That's not surprising because cryptos right now are popular compared to where they are few years ago. The more the people learn crypto, the more use cases that they unlock and that includes crypto gambling. Not only crypto gambling but many fiat gambling sites have also emerged. This is due to the pandemic where the offline casino business is slowing down, resulted for those owners and gamblers to migrate online.

Other than cryptos, fiat-based online payments are also becoming a thing now and many companies are still creating their own brands. They are the rival of cryptos other than the stable coins and cryptos that are owned by banks and governments.

Fiat based online payments are already a thing years a go. Even the implementation of it towards the gambling industry were not new. They've just managed to apply the fast transaction idea and the blockchain technology of the crypto but only just using their local fiat. Lastly, if you are more onto gambling especially in your local gambling industry, fiat gambling platforms are common. it's just not popular to some due to it being illegal or there are regulations applied.
1194  Economy / Gambling / Re: I miss the old OnChain gambling on: May 12, 2022, 08:54:29 PM
One of the advantages of on-chain gambling is the fact that bets that were placed on the Blockchain, cannot be "deleted" by the casino. We have seen some casinos "hiding" traces of bet manipulation by simply removing an entry (bet slip or bet ID from their internal database, which is almost impossible with on-chain betting.)

So every bet made are being placed on the Blockchain, which makes this a trust-less, immutable and unbreakable system.  Wink  (Well, some miners have found ways to reverse bets and that lead to the closure of some sites.)  Tongue

those on the blockchain bets often had the same issues with hackers and abusers since they require to be service opensource games as well. Hence, not everyone would really dare to take that risk when the current gambling is already secured and entertaining enough. Onchain gaming can be an innovation, but when such innovation tends to be a risk, it is better to use the normal platforms and make it as entertaining and secured as it can. Transparency isn't always the winner in gambling.
1195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Khalil Rountree's Bitcoin Awakening on: May 08, 2022, 07:46:30 AM

It appears crypto is gaining traction in the sport of MMA.

Although MMA fighters like Rory Macdonald and Chris Camozzi have been associated with crypto for years.

I think that CRYPTO.COM's initiative to sponsor MMA is a huge step towards more popularity of Cryptocurrency especially on a sport that has tons of viewers even in PPV. I think Khalil did this because Crypto.com has a 30,000USD bonus for the top voted fighter IN BITCOINS[1]. Hence, he just did this as he sees it to be an opportunity from that point on.

[1] - UFC to Offer Bitcoin Bonus As Part of Record Crypto.com
1196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What will be the payout for Kentucky Derby this year? on: May 07, 2022, 10:25:16 PM
#KentuckyDerby last 5 winners payouts👇

2021: Medina Spirit $26.20
2020: Authentic $18.80
2019: Country House $132.40
2018: Justify $7.80
2017: Always Dreaming $11.40



I'm not really familiar with how such PAYOUTS are being stated yet I've searched what such numbers are and those where the money bettors would get if they bet on those Horses right. I don't think there can be ways to predict payouts as I both just knew about what this is and the calculations are a bit complex for beginners. (more likely to vary from wagers and odds as well)
1197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: May 07, 2022, 10:12:54 PM
I will suggest we keep all predictions till later when the 2022 round start fully, FIFA World cup is always an exciting event to football fans and with the countries that qualified so far this year us going to be fun filled but the cup is going to either Brazil or France.

I think the OP just wants a heads up towards the TOPIC where we can still make predictions and analysis on the FIFA and it's teams' past games so that we could gather enough ideas for our bets FOR APPROX 6 MONTHS. Kinda funny to be that much anticipating as there are large rooms that can still befit tons of changes. But yeah, BRAZIL always pops off every FIFA, no doubts abt that.
1198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: PH banned online cockfighting - Worst gambling-related cases recorded! on: May 07, 2022, 09:29:29 PM
Some will argue horse racing is animal cruelty and in some cases causes the death of the animals involved.   Certainly sometimes drugging and other misuse is occurring unfortunately, there is no perfect area of the world that excludes animal abuse completely but I doubt any society gains from it, Im really not surprised more trouble has been linked to the practice.   I guess lottery is too boring, is there nothing to bet on that would be more entertaining/productive then this ?
Agreed on this but on this case cock is involved, The common reason of gamblers that love cock fighting is chicken is butchered and sell to the market so involving them in gambling is not wrong since they are destined to butchered. Personally I hate gambling that involved animals but the norm of gamblers to use animal for entertainment is hard to stop especially if it’s already existed for so many years.
I think the chicken that we saw in the market (the one that we eat) and the chicken that we saw on cock fights are not the same breed. Gamblers don't like cock fighting for that reason you mentioned and if they want to sell a chicken at the market then why can they just buy a different kind of chicken, the one that is easy and inexpensive to raise. People can kill a chicken for selling and eating purposes.

It's a common thing so it's not that painful when compared to other animals that aren't destined for this purposes but it is still in human to use animals in gambling. Poor animals didn't know that they are only being used by humans for entertainment. Much better if the animals were killed immediately than let them suffer that way.

They are not the same chicken bro but they are the same breed. All market chickens can be both Hen and Rooster. It's their capability to lay eggs that differs. AND HUGE NO. Cockfighters would never just sell their chickens after a loss. They either make them more better for the future fight, or just serve it to their family for dinner.

I just don't think how animal cruelty is something you guys consider in gambling yet UFC and BOxing that can KILL people BY ACCIDENT OR INTENTIONAL are those you've been enjoying. Imagine if chickens or even any animals can have popularity because of their FAME in FIGHTING other animals, would you still feel the same remorse? I'm an ANTI animal cruelty. But there are some instances that we make such things more weirder.
1199  Economy / Gambling / Re: Provably fair RTP ? on: May 07, 2022, 09:04:18 PM
We live in times where almost everything is possible with software these days, but I have not seen any Casino having code that shows in real-time what the actual RTP is for ALL their games.

You will go to a site and you will click through several steps to find the RTP, but the RTP is simply the advertised RTP for that game. The latest Slots have multiple RTP settings for the same Slots (eg Hacksaw Games) and you never know on which RTP that Slot is running.

Can Software developers not write "Provably fair" code.. to enable people to click on a option in the game to "test" the actual RTP of the Slot at that given moment?

There are a lot of discussions in casino chats and forums on casinos hiding the actual RTP for their games and the RTP and Variance being adjusted in real-time to "feed" during certain periods. A provably fair system to check this will build more trust and it will also reduce frustration and negativity from gamblers on these platforms.

You have provably fair systems to check the bets, but we do not have provably fair systems to check the real-time RTP being used by the casinos.  Roll Eyes

Hence there is a reason why SOME platforms tend to be redflagged especially when their SYSTEM is either not open-source or their players' testimonies often were MORE of a losing experience than a winning one. Platforms (whom always were successful), tends to disclose their game's back end since it can help them receive contributions from the community whilst some also shows their RTPs whereas players with experiences knows the difference between a 96%RTP over a 95%RTP.
1200  Economy / Gambling / Re: Top Crypto SportsBetting Sites For US Citizens Abroad? on: May 07, 2022, 08:39:08 PM
~Are there crypto sportsbooks that do not have KYC or do they all do?  i have no issue with that but again im a us citizen so don't want any issue where a site kyc me and after i send in my usa id, well my utility bill is going to be a different country since well im abroad and you can see it from my ip address.  Heard someone mention nitrogen isn't that reliable anymore?  When did they ban us player?  So us players outside the us is fine?  Know many sites do that kyc thing where they ask for lot of documents only to stall and possibly lie or make new rules up so they won't pay your balance out so like to know this.  Or avoid all crypto sportsbooks?

It's really hard to tell nor suggest what platforms you could use as an alternative especially if we don't know where u reside currently. But if you could just try and Google your place + a gambling platform's name, you could check whether or not your place is restricted on the platform you might like. Citizenship doesn't evoke you from being WITHIN the place of their restrictions. Hence, either just accept the fact that where you are makes u restricted on accessing some gambling platforms, OR try and seek a platform for yourself.
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