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May 06, 2022, 10:00:15 PM
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Overall, the decision was based on the situation of the cockfighting bettor, that’s the main concern here even if the government will lose a lot of money here, they are still concerned about the people. President Duterte should have a final paper for this, telling the agencies to fully implement the ban because for sure, illegal sites will still operate and might continue doing the business which can still result in a bad situation for addicted gamblers.
President duterte has a good choice and it's good to hear that this kind of gambling will be banned. Because no other gambling platforms that only you can bet and win or lose in this kind of cockfighting gambling the disadvantages of these are they are abusing the animal which is not good second through cock fighting many are involved in a misunderstanding and fighting between the two honor of the cock. And the issues did not solve yet many sabongero men did not yet find even their dead bodies.
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May 06, 2022, 10:08:34 PM
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Overall, the decision was based on the situation of the cockfighting bettor, that’s the main concern here even if the government will lose a lot of money here, they are still concerned about the people. President Duterte should have a final paper for this, telling the agencies to fully implement the ban because for sure, illegal sites will still operate and might continue doing the business which can still result in a bad situation for addicted gamblers.
President duterte has a good choice and it's good to hear that this kind of gambling will be banned. Because no other gambling platforms that only you can bet and win or lose in this kind of cockfighting gambling the disadvantages of these are they are abusing the animal which is not good second through cock fighting many are involved in a misunderstanding and fighting between the two honor of the cock. And the issues did not solve yet many sabongero men did not yet find even their dead bodies.

Long before this e-sabong, cockfighting is the favorite of the Filipinos, and no one complained that it should be stopped because of the animal cruelty, it's more on, people going missing, that is the worst-case in gambling and the title is very much true, its worst-case scenario if numbers of people are missing and possibly killed because of e-sabong related not because of animal abuse it's human abuse that made the President stop e-sabong.
We can do away with this animal abuse just for the government to make additional money but not when people are going missing, the moral fiber of the society is eroding because of this.

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May 06, 2022, 10:41:43 PM
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the government's priority is its people, if cockfighting can bring greater destruction to its people for me it should be banned. if many people fall into poverty because of gambling, then this will also be a problem for the government. speaking the state income is very large in gambling, but the government has to sacrifice the lives of its people. even though there are strict rules made by the government if the people don't care and keep gambling at the expense of everything this will be in vain. the government must take a firm stance against gambling which can have fatal consequences for the economy of its people.

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May 06, 2022, 10:50:59 PM
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the government's priority is its people, if cockfighting can bring greater destruction to its people for me it should be banned. if many people fall into poverty because of gambling, then this will also be a problem for the government. speaking the state income is very large in gambling, but the government has to sacrifice the lives of its people. even though there are strict rules made by the government if the people don't care and keep gambling at the expense of everything this will be in vain. the government must take a firm stance against gambling which can have fatal consequences for the economy of its people.
^ Because there are animal rights now that prohibit animal cruelty and animal abuse which is this online sabong or cockfighting online is very harmful to the animal and it also risky to the people who carried out the cock to fight because it has a very sharp blade.
This decision is very wise and I hope not only this game will be stopped also, the horse race which is also considering animal abuse and there are probably more that related to animal abuse that should be stopped. I hope not only the country the Philippines will do this, because this kind of games are very common in part of Asian country.
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May 06, 2022, 11:13:20 PM
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the government's priority is its people, if cockfighting can bring greater destruction to its people for me it should be banned. if many people fall into poverty because of gambling, then this will also be a problem for the government. speaking the state income is very large in gambling, but the government has to sacrifice the lives of its people. even though there are strict rules made by the government if the people don't care and keep gambling at the expense of everything this will be in vain. the government must take a firm stance against gambling which can have fatal consequences for the economy of its people.

To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt. Maybe many Filipinos lack the discipline on gambling, that is why their life is so messed up right now due to online betting but for now, it is just a hear-say as no statistical data was released on the number of people whose life got messy because of this.

Election time is on the next day so this whole thing might be a setup so opposition candidates can somehow gain sympathy on the people if the government doesn't act on this one but they failed as the seating President is wise and takes the necessary steps to settle the issue, just my two cents.

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May 06, 2022, 11:23:53 PM
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the government's priority is its people, if cockfighting can bring greater destruction to its people for me it should be banned. if many people fall into poverty because of gambling, then this will also be a problem for the government. speaking the state income is very large in gambling, but the government has to sacrifice the lives of its people. even though there are strict rules made by the government if the people don't care and keep gambling at the expense of everything this will be in vain. the government must take a firm stance against gambling which can have fatal consequences for the economy of its people.

To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt. Maybe many Filipinos lack the discipline on gambling, that is why their life is so messed up right now due to online betting but for now, it is just a hear-say as no statistical data was released on the number of people whose life got messy because of this.

Election time is on the next day so this whole thing might be a setup so opposition candidates can somehow gain sympathy on the people if the government doesn't act on this one but they failed as the seating President is wise and takes the necessary steps to settle the issue, just my two cents.
Its really that in private when it comes to statistics but for sure government does know into those numbers who had been greatly affected with online betting.Any forms of it would really be destructive on someones
lives if they dont really know to put up limitations into their spending or funds then that would really be a big problem of yours.It is really just right that the government would really be making immediate step
or action on stopping in all of these not totally banning cockfight but into its online betting where lots of people do really get involved with this activity.
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May 06, 2022, 11:31:53 PM
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the government's priority is its people, if cockfighting can bring greater destruction to its people for me it should be banned. if many people fall into poverty because of gambling, then this will also be a problem for the government. speaking the state income is very large in gambling, but the government has to sacrifice the lives of its people. even though there are strict rules made by the government if the people don't care and keep gambling at the expense of everything this will be in vain. the government must take a firm stance against gambling which can have fatal consequences for the economy of its people.

To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt. Maybe many Filipinos lack the discipline on gambling, that is why their life is so messed up right now due to online betting but for now, it is just a hear-say as no statistical data was released on the number of people whose life got messy because of this.

Election time is on the next day so this whole thing might be a setup so opposition candidates can somehow gain sympathy on the people if the government doesn't act on this one but they failed as the seating President is wise and takes the necessary steps to settle the issue, just my two cents.

We have cockfighting in our locality and even our local authorities are promoting it, it's only online sabong to get in the cockpit coliseum you have to pay the entrance fee and the number of cockfighting is limited compared to e-sabong where you have access 24/7 so with this, local gamblers cannot stop and cannot control their urge until they lose everything.

When it comes to gambling there should be a time limit and moderation, the government should set a time limit and it should be on limited number of days so they can restrict people, it's very different online you hve access 24 hours

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May 06, 2022, 11:40:23 PM
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To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt. Maybe many Filipinos lack the discipline on gambling, that is why their life is so messed up right now due to online betting but for now, it is just a hear-say as no statistical data was released on the number of people whose life got messy because of this.

Election time is on the next day so this whole thing might be a setup so opposition candidates can somehow gain sympathy on the people if the government doesn't act on this one but they failed as the seating President is wise and takes the necessary steps to settle the issue, just my two cents.
if it's just a political promise then that's very bad, but i'm sure offline cockfighting will continue as usual because what I know in the Philippines is cockfighting is a type of bet that is very interested in.  not only cockfighting, but most gambling must make people who do it miserable and are addicted to it, need special support and attention from the government to be able to reduce the number of cockfighting gambling players in the Philippines.

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May 06, 2022, 11:44:32 PM
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To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt.

Yes, others think that cockfighting is totally banned without realizing it's only on the online part.

One of my friends posted that one of the arena was now opened near them as restrictions are now getting lighter. Maybe it was opened and live-action commenced because there's no business now in online cockfighting.

Physical gambling was now back but since online cockfighting is much more alarming, it was put on halt asap.
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May 06, 2022, 11:47:29 PM
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To be clear to you guys, cockfighting is not banned in the PH, only the "online betting" of cockfights was put to a halt. Maybe many Filipinos lack the discipline on gambling, that is why their life is so messed up right now due to online betting but for now, it is just a hear-say as no statistical data was released on the number of people whose life got messy because of this.

Election time is on the next day so this whole thing might be a setup so opposition candidates can somehow gain sympathy on the people if the government doesn't act on this one but they failed as the seating President is wise and takes the necessary steps to settle the issue, just my two cents.
if it's just a political promise then that's very bad, but i'm sure offline cockfighting will continue as usual because what I know in the Philippines is cockfighting is a type of bet that is very interested in.  not only cockfighting, but most gambling must make people who do it miserable and are addicted to it, need special support and attention from the government to be able to reduce the number of cockfighting gambling players in the Philippines.

The next president will be the one to tackle this when he/she assumed office and it depends on the kind of president the Filipino will elect if he/she is more on moral values, that could be the end of e-sabong if the next president wants more money in the coffer to sustain the government needs then we will see e-sabong operating again, but I'm sure there will be many changes, because of the scandal it generated.
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May 07, 2022, 03:56:00 AM
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Yup, and my friend which is an agent of this game confirmed that online cock fighting is totally banned. and he said that there's no problem when it comes to all remaining balance of all players within the platform because all the agent is processing it, which a good news.

And there's another good news because there's a new platform for online cock fighting but it so called derby fighting, so for sure it will continue..

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PH President Rodrigo Duterte has approved the recommendation of the Department of the Interior and Local Government (DILG) to stop e-sabong or online cockfighting operations.

Online E-Sabong (cockfighting) is a legit and regulated gambling industry here in the Philippines. So much hype that many people got hooked on it even those who are not really into that gambling since betting here is so easy and different from the actual betting in the live arena.

The government is supporting online cockfighting here because it's a big help to support the economy during and after the peak of the pandemic. According to statistics, the government is receiving around PHP 60,000,000 (around $1,149,700 USD) per month in a form of taxation and revenue.

But since the hype of online cockfighting here, there are lots of recorded negative effects of gambling up to this date. Some people sold their houses, cars, gadgets, and even a "kid". There are also cases of missing several people on which today, there's still no good progress and that was all related to these gambling.

This was all brought up to the President and even though he was supporting the online cockfighting industry here, he ask his constituents to conduct a survey on the effect of this on all people. The result is WORST that's why ASAP, the President ban right away the online cockfighting and disregard the revenue the government is getting.

Let's discuss: (applies to all gambling-type)

- Do you think that your respective government will do the same even though that gambling is a big contributor to the government's revenue? It's a big sacrifice but no choice since lots of people got wrecked here and there are still unsolved cases of missing people.

- Is it really valid that we should blame the online cockfighting here that's why most people wrecked their lives?

For me, it shouldn't be stopped but should be more regulated strictly. I know there's a thing that can balance this but I don't know the specific term of it. Because of these irresponsible gamblers, the government's revenue got affected which should be a big help now that our country is just slowly rising after years of dealing with the pandemic.

Online cockfighting should be prohibited by law because it promotes animal curelty. Animals are not meant for entertainment, to satisfy anyone's need of enjoyment, nor undergo in pain and excruciating death just for the sake of a bet. It's good to know that the government of the Philippines won't sacrifice the well-being of their people and the lives of the animal over the tax and revenue they generate from it.

Based on the articles and documentaries I've read, there are a lot of issues regarding this already which may have caused and pushed the government to such decision. During the peak of e-sabong, a lot of Filipinos were reported missing, tortured, and even found dead due to their debts. Many people sufferrd addiction too because e-sabong wasn't really well-regulated by the government officials in their locality. While it is the responsible of the citizens to establish their boundaries when it comes to gambling, it is also the government officials duty to regulate it so that people won't go overboard.

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Some will argue horse racing is animal cruelty and in some cases causes the death of the animals involved.   Certainly sometimes drugging and other misuse is occurring unfortunately, there is no perfect area of the world that excludes animal abuse completely but I doubt any society gains from it, Im really not surprised more trouble has been linked to the practice.   I guess lottery is too boring, is there nothing to bet on that would be more entertaining/productive then this ?

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I thought animal fighting matches was banned throughout the world, I never thought that in some countries it is still legal. It is good that they banned it as it is a animal cruelty, who on Earth would want to watch animals fights to their death for gambling and entertainment.

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May 07, 2022, 10:18:20 AM
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Not only with the rooster fighting I think gambling addiction is spread throughout the world. I see many of my friends slowly destroying their lives because of gambling but we can't banned gamblings even if they banned rooster fighting they can just switch with other gambling such as horse racing, sports betting and many more.

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May 07, 2022, 11:04:37 AM
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I thought animal fighting matches was banned throughout the world, I never thought that in some countries it is still legal.
you thought wrong. the world is a huge place and not everyone shares the same values.

It is good that they banned it as it is a animal cruelty,
like I said before, cock fighting was not banned, only the operation of e-sabong(online cock fighting).

who on Earth would want to watch animals fights to their death for gambling and entertainment.
apparently a lot of people, especially those who grew up watching it. as a kid, I have been exposed to cock fighting a lot and I never really liked the fight to the death match. though I would have loved to grow my own rooster.

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May 07, 2022, 12:15:39 PM
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Not only with the rooster fighting I think gambling addiction is spread throughout the world. I see many of my friends slowly destroying their lives because of gambling but we can't banned gamblings even if they banned rooster fighting they can just switch with other gambling such as horse racing, sports betting and many more.

They provably switch on what's available on their country so for sure their addiction will not get aid if there are other option offered to them. And what I think much effective on this best if government ban gambling advertisement on any media platform especially on social media so that this  gambling addiction will not spread so high and thus will be control by government.

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In fact, it is very difficult to ban gambling because anyone anywhere in the world with the help of simple manipulations can play a game of chance.

The banning of gambling advertisements is not quite an effective measure as the government of a certain country will not be able to ban all advertisements on the Internet. Besides, more and more Internet users use VPN that helps to bypass the restrictions of the local government.

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May 07, 2022, 01:33:38 PM
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Some will argue horse racing is animal cruelty and in some cases causes the death of the animals involved.   Certainly sometimes drugging and other misuse is occurring unfortunately, there is no perfect area of the world that excludes animal abuse completely but I doubt any society gains from it, Im really not surprised more trouble has been linked to the practice.   I guess lottery is too boring, is there nothing to bet on that would be more entertaining/productive then this ?
Animal fighting becomes more entertaining nowadays, I know its very unhuman but still the government allows it simply because they generates profit from them and they even regulate this so they can monitor and collect the right taxes which is their main concern and not actually the health of those animals. Well, if you're looking for a more entertainment best then go for the sports, cockfighting or horse racing are more cruel and many people already condemned this kind of gambling.
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May 07, 2022, 01:36:21 PM
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I thought animal fighting matches was banned throughout the world, I never thought that in some countries it is still legal. It is good that they banned it as it is a animal cruelty, who on Earth would want to watch animals fights to their death for gambling and entertainment.

They only ban the online version of the game since many Filipino got addicted and wasted there life due to easy access gambling but the IRL version of this cock fight is still legal and has no movement to stop it since it provide huge tax in our country. There’s a lot of big people behind this animal sports so it will be hard to be banned by the government.

It’s a good thing that this online gambling already removed because I know a lot of people in our neighborhood got addicted and loan huge amount of money in the bank just to have money for betting.

That is why they only ban online version of it because they gain too much taxes in this kind of gambling. There's a lot of issues going on now in here, people fighting and missing, I think it is the best time to stop cockfighting in here , not only people lives is at risk but also the animals that are fighting, I am highly against with this kind of gambling .
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