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1181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 20, 2022, 08:48:46 PM
SMB vs Bay Area dragon next game for sure SMB will win again cause I believe that SMB can manage and handle the game against Bay Area like what they do in game 3 even though in first quarter Bay Area manage the lead but in the end of the game A beautiful play by SMB is the reason why they win. Looking forward from magnolia vs Ginebra then for sure in game four magnolia will win and in game 5 Ginebra will win.

Also hoping that SMB would win game4  and extend this series to game5 but the way I saw it on game2 and game3, very hard for them to do the job as they need to execute perfectly their plays against a more talented and taller Dragons but that game3 win might also give them confidence which might be a catalyst for that beeracle that I'm longing to happen hehe.

Dragons - 1.43
Beermen - 2.78

^^ ML odds for tonight's game, won't bet pre-game today but will wait and observe during game time if there's an opportunity to bet for SMB Beermen.

1182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cock fight game on: December 20, 2022, 11:44:47 AM
Most of the games in which animals were involved were much connected to the tradition and culture. In the name of harming animals more and more activists come out against them. This shouldn't happen, because they're following what is being followed by the ancestors.

Cockfighting is part of a tradition in our country and must be respected just like any other culture/tradition wherein they kill animals like the ones I saw on YouTube where a certain country kills hundreds of dolphins and to think that dolphins are harder to reproduce than fighting birds, I mean they can go instinct if not controlled.

Now that cockfighting generates billions of pesos in our country, I don't think that this stop because some group of activists says so because by stopping this industry, many will starve.

1183  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 20, 2022, 10:55:03 AM

Bucks -1.5 @2.02 vs Pelicans

Sana sabay na maglalaro sina Giannis at Holiday para naman sulit yong pusta kahit na matalo.

Wala naman sa listahan ng injury si Giannis at Holiday kaya malamang maglalaro sila. May mga sportsbook na favorite ang Pelicans kaya medyo alanganin nga ang taya mo na yan. Mataas pa naman ang win rate ng Pelicans sa home court nila, sana ma cover ng Bucks ang handicap. Good luck bet mo kabayan.

Panalo yong bet ko kanina kabayan buti nalang at naglaro si Giannis at ang laki ng naiambag na puntos ni Brook Lopez kanina, 30 points yong binuhos nya, oks na yon kahit hindi masyadong maganda yong output ni Holiday.

Erratic yong laro ng Warriors, yong akala mo na matatalo sila dahil wala si Curry pero pumutok naman yong Jordan Poole kaya panalo pero sayang hindi ako nakapusta sa kanila dahil medyo busy sa mga activities ngayon sa Pasko Smiley.

Ngayon siguro magiging reliable na si Poole kasi wala si curry. Siya na ang magiging first option bukod kay Klay. Parang glimpse na to ng magiging future ng warriors sa kamay ni Jordan Poole. Sana nga maging consistent siya para sulit ang contract sa kanya.

May laro yong Warriors bukas against Knicks at underdog na naman sila pero hindi muna ako pupusta sa kanila at observe lang muna ako kung kaya na bang pangunahan ni Poole yong Warriors sa ngayon na wala si Curry.

Jazz -2.5 @1.83 vs Pistons

Yan lang muna para bukas, babawi siguro tong Jazz sa pagkakatambak sa kanila kanina ng Cavs.
1184  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 19, 2022, 01:27:16 PM
Ganda rin pala laro ng Warriors nanalo at kumana si Poole ng 43 points.

Erratic yong laro ng Warriors, yong akala mo na matatalo sila dahil wala si Curry pero pumutok naman yong Jordan Poole kaya panalo pero sayang hindi ako nakapusta sa kanila dahil medyo busy sa mga activities ngayon sa Pasko Smiley.

Bucks -1.5 @2.02 vs Pelicans

Sana sabay na maglalaro sina Giannis at Holiday para naman sulit yong pusta kahit na matalo.
1185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Ryan Garcia vs Mercito Gesta (January) on: December 19, 2022, 12:58:38 PM
So you are saying that the Gesta fight will not happen?

I am not the one saying it, it is Ryan Garcia that stated that he is passing on Gesta : Ryan Garcia Explains Passing on Gesta: "It’s Not About Money, Easy Fights, I'm Focused On Tank

Thanks for sharing that article mate, since it's coming from Ryan Garcia, then this thread has no more purpose anymore. @OP, you can close this thread as this fight is canceled already since Garcia decided to skip this one and will only focus on Davis.

Yup, locking this thread now as this will not happen due to Ryan Garcia's opting out of this fight. He said that this is an easy fight but TBH, this is not because even if Gesta has not fought for some time now, he could derail that Garcia's mega-fight with Tank Davis if he could hit that glass chin of Ryan Garcia.

1186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Ryan Garcia vs Mercito Gesta (January) on: December 18, 2022, 12:15:26 PM


Maybe there's less risk here but there's no assurance that they will win. Well, for Ryan Garcia, his camp knows how important this fight before a big fight with Tank Davis, so they choose a fighter that could give Garcia a good challenge. Until this fight is over, we cannot be too excited with Garcia's fight on Tank Davis as you know, upset could happen.
Between Ryan's opponent and Tank's opponent, Ryan is facing a risky challenger, Gesta's first fight was in 2003 and he fought for world titles two times already in 2012 and 2018 he is in battle tested and he just comes from a Unanimous decision win against Diaz he should not underestimate the guy style is very different from all the other boxers that Ryan has fought, he can engage and he is a good counter puncher, he will have a very good tune fight in Gesta and talking about upsets it's possible here.

If that is risky then I think we should worry about this fight, however, I see it differently, Ryan Garcia cherry-picked this fight, so he must know how to beat him. Ryan has the power and the speed, but maturity in boxing, not sure about that, but I'm pretty sure his weapon is enough to beat Gesta.

Yeah, for sure he will be the favorite in this fight, maybe 4:1 per betting odds. So his team picks a fighter that they can beat, but will give Ryan sort of test as well because as we have said, Gesta may have some flashes of Davis, lefty and strong puncher.

But maybe Garcia doesn't want to go to this tune up as he mentioned, but he will be confident enough to win or motivated to face Davis right away.

We have no choice but to wait for the betting odds, well, it's expected that Garcia will be the heavy favorite since he is a popular boxer and the champion. Maybe the odds for Garcia would be from 1.05 to 1.10 to win, and for Gesta, it should be a very attractive odds, but would you be attracted with the odds?

I think we will not see the odds for this proposed fight mate because as what i have read in a news article that Ryan Garcia has opted out because he want to go directly to that fight with Tank Davis.

No concrete reason for scraping this fight but i think that Gesta being a high-risk might also be a factor because this might derail Garcia's planned showdown with Davis. Might also be that "mental problem" with Garcia is back hehe.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-opts-go-straight-gervonta-davis-fight-with-mercito-gesta-no-longer-play--171219
1187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 18, 2022, 11:55:54 AM
Not a good start for SMB, they are playing a do or die game and yet they allow the Bay Area to dictate the game early. Maybe it's still too early as it's in the 2nd quarter, but the score is already 19-31, or 12 points lead by the Bay Area. Good thing Ross is playing, maybe he can help his team to win.
I thought at least in the first quarter the SMB will do good, I place bet when they're around 17-17 then it jump to 24 and now it's 19-31? I haven't watched PBA in few months or just watching it casually sometimes I thought that the SMB is still the top teams in the PBA. I haven't heard this Bay Arena before, was this a new team?

Well, don't you worry because SMB were able to come back in the game and it's now a close game. The first half has already ended, Bay Area only leading by 4 points, it's very manageable, so they need to have a big run in the 3rd quarter so they'll not fall short in the last quarter of the game.

This time, Scott has a good production with his precise shooting, 13 points so far from 6-8 Shooting.

This series is not over yet, SMB snatch the win tonight, the series is now 2-1 in favor of Bay Area. I just noticed, it seemed like the ref are pretty much on the side of SMB, even the last shot, it should be a foul since there was a push in the back. Anyway, congrats SMB for winning.

I also thought that was a foul but the ref did not call it. Also, when 3 men are down the floor before the 3-point shot of Enciso to take the lead, I thought there might be a foul there somewhere, but nothing is called. It is still good though. It is a very exciting game. The beermen gave the Bay Area Dragons a tough defense. Their shooters are contributing and Devon Scott have a bounce back game today. I think it was 28 points contribution coming from the import of San Miguel. They get to live to fight another day.

Exciting game indeed and IMO, that was a good "no call" when three bodies were on the floor before Simon Enciso nailed that game-winning three, that's a perfect ending for an intense game and a good beginning for another beeracle in the making hehe.

Second game at the moment with Ginebra leading by 9 points so far, not close so far unlike the second game where no team have lead by 5-points until the third quarter.
1188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 18, 2022, 01:06:31 AM
@bisdak40, good thing we have the local betting going.

SMB vs Bay Area, my team is already in advantage, they have a good chance of eliminating the SMB tomorrow, hehe..

About the Ginebra vs Magnolia, it's a very fair game, I can add like 4k pesos in this series if anyone would be willing to accept that bet. @bisdak40 can certainly update the table for us, just post if you guys are interested.
SMB are too dependent to JMF and they can’t maximize their import, their playing strategy should be changed if they really want to survive on this and go to the finals. Magnolia on the other hand manage to tied the series, this is more exciting who will take the lead. Anyway, where’s that local bet? Looks interesting but quiet high for a minimum bet.

I think SMB is not dependent on Junemar, its just that he was only the clicking that night both on offense and defense. The Dragons won't be the favorite for nothing, i mean their local has the height advantage over the locals of the Beermen and their import also is a little above the talent level of SMB's import as well, just a team effort for them to win this tough series.

About the local betting, it is closed for now and might resume on the Finals, it would be an interesting matchup whichever team will face the Dragons (no offense to SMB fans hehe).
1189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 16, 2022, 10:59:33 PM
It looks like the Dragons are too much for the Beermen.
6 players of Dragons in double digits against only 4 for the Beermen and their import Scott isn't as efficient as he was in the eliminations. It seems like the presence of Nicholson and that 7-footer in the paint really affects their game style and some of the players of the Dragons are fast and tall as well so it will be hard for the guards of Beermen to score. Total domination for the Dragons.

Height really is a factor on why the Beermen struggle against the Dragons plus the fact that six players contributed double digits offensive output only shows that they already have figured out how to maneuver the defense of the Beermen. 2-0 is a deep hole but this is basketball and anything can happen but i'm expecting for the worst that the Dragons will swept the Beermen.

2-0 in favor of the Dragons and tied at 1 on the other match-up. Next game will be on Sunday. Will the Beermen get eliminated on Sunday or they will extend the series. I'll go with Ginebra on Game 3, and I might put a bet on them depending on the odds.

In game 1 the odds for Ginebra and Magnolia is almost even, game2 the Kings were the slight underdog and with them losing game 2 I think the odds in game 3 will be attractive if you are backing Ginebra.
1190  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 16, 2022, 10:42:38 PM

Dami palang laro bukas. Tingan ko din ang Lakers vs Nuggets bukas. Ito muna akin sa ngayon,

Atlanta Hawks ML @ 2.20 vs Charlotte Hornets
Brooklyn Nets -1.5 @ 1.91 vs Toronto Raptors

Maglalaro ba si Trae dito I mean okay na ba sila ng coach? kasi kahit na maglaro sya kung sabaw naman ang performnce mukhang tagilid sila pero enticing yang ML na yan ha. Kung may spare ako papatulan ko yan eh hahaha. Pero sa ngayon basa basa muna ang alat masyado eh, mahilig kasi ako makisundot sa live maliit na taya lang naman pero sadyang matumal manalo ngayon, yung akala mong babalik para manalo eh hindi na ata uso gaya ng nangyari sa Warriors kala ko nung natapyas nila sa lima ung lamang ng Pacers eh tuloy tuloy na makukuha ung momentum un pala maiinjured si Curry at matatapon sil Green..

Enticing nga yong ML ng laban sa pagitan ng Hawks vs Hornets kabayan. Slight underdog yong homecourt team dahil wala si Capela sa laro ngayon pero wala rin naman si Hayward para sa Hornets kaya tabla lang hehe.

Hawks @2.20 vs Hornets, baka makasilat ng isa dito yong Hawks.

@Baofeng, congrats brader, tumpak yong taya mo kahapon, nakasabay pa ako sa isa.

1191  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 15, 2022, 09:25:55 PM
Dami nasilat sa talo ng Warriors, akala ko pa naman papakitang gilas at buburahin na ang kamalasan nila sa road games.

Rockets vs Heat - baka pagod na ang Heat dahil back to back nila, at dehado pa ang rockets sa homecourt nila, kaya tatapunan ko sila.

Clippers vs Suns - struggle ang Suns sa ngayon, pero baka makasilat sa Clippers hehehe, ganun din dehado pa sila, baka makasilat lang.

Oo nga no, malas talaga ng Warriors sa road games nila plus pinahinga pa si Wiggens at Thompson kaya lalong nahihirapan silang manalo kahapon, akala hahabol na sa third quarter pero kinapos rin.

Rockets +3.5 @1.90 vs Heat

Sasabayan ko yang taya mo sa Rockets vs Heat, baka nga pagod na yong Heat at baka rin pahinga pa si Butler.
1192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 15, 2022, 09:10:47 PM

@jakelyson, please confirm your participation kabayan so i can list your name and your bet for Magnolia.


I was not able to log in for a few days because of work. If it is okay with the participants, I would still want to push through with my bet on Magnolia. I will wave my bet on SMB vs Bay Area because I want to bet on Dragons, but they won the first game.

AFAIC, no problem on your participation on this fun bet kabayan. Consider your bet of 500 Php for Magnolia Hotshots counted. I think there's no problem with harizen and Maslate because Magnolia loses game 1, they even have the advantage hehe.



The odds for both games have changed since game 1 with Ginebra now the underdog in game2, odds between Magnolia and Ginebra was even in game one. See below for odds of game 2, i'll still take the odds ML for SMB Beermen and with handicap for Magnolia Hotshots.

Magnolia -1.5 @1.87 vs Ginebra
SMB Beermen @2.58 vs Dragons


1193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: December 15, 2022, 11:43:25 AM
It is clear for anyone that watched the fight that Butler went up there with the clear intention of not losing the fight during the very first rounds, but while doing so he abandoned any chance of victory against Inoue, to me this is controversial, because while some may be impressed by Butler and his ability to last that long against someone like Inoue, I would say that I am disappointed about his attitude, as he took a path he knew he will have no chance to win, to me it would have been better for him to actually go for the victory, most likely he would still lose, but at least his chances of victory would not have been zero.

We can't blame Butler if he fights that way, Inoue isn't called the Monster for nothing. If he stands toe to toe with Inoue, he wouldn't last three rounds and he will suffer the same fate as Donaire. He was fighting scared that's why it lasted for 11 rounds which for me a victory for himself because even the bookies predicted that the fight will be over in under three rounds, that's why I grabbed the opportunity when I saw that odds.

With Top Rank grooming their newfound cash cow, for sure he will become a multi-division champion and I hope that he will meet Casimero while they are still at the peak of their careers.
1194  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 14, 2022, 09:57:35 PM
Kamusta mga kabayan? Parang tumahimik tayo dito sa ating thread ah Grin Taya na naman tayo, meron lang palang limang games mamaya.

Baka trip nyo ang Warriors mamaya kontra sa Bucks? Malay natin makaisa din sila katulad ng pagtalo nila sa Celtics nung nakaraan.

Philiadelphia 76ers -4.5 @ 1.91 vs Sacramento Kings .. Yan na muna akin sa ngayon, abangan ko nalang ang Warriors vs Bucks at Lakers vs Celtics mamaya.

Busy siguro yong mga tao dito sa mga Christmas party kabayan hehe.

BTW, congrats nga pala sa panalo mo kahapon, buti hindi na nakataya sa Bucks vs Warriors, tambak yong Warriors.

Speaking of Warriors, may laro sila ngayon kontra Pacers at slight underdog yong visiting team baka may hindi maglalaro pero hindi naman binalita.

Warriors @2.28 vs Pacers, baka babawi rito ang Warriors.
1195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 14, 2022, 12:18:39 PM
Yeah, SMB failed to execute the right play in the last minutes, they could have won game 1. I don't understand why they sit Romeo, I think he is a good playmaker and he will attract defenders, especially their import, so that would open up the shooters of SMB. Now, let's see the next game, it's a Manila Classico, Ginebra vs Magnolia, should be a good game.

SMB was leading the whole time but failed to protect the lead in the dying minutes. I think the execution and breaks of the game in the dying seconds just favored the Dragons but nevertheless, it was an exciting game and for sure SMB Beermen will bounce back from that lose. We can see in the first game that the Dragons struggled and they are very beatable so expect the odds to be more even in game 2.

End of the first of the second game, a very close game so far with a score of 45-44 in favor of the Kings.

Yes, both imports are playing well and their defense was very impressive. However, since this is in the 2nd half, I think Ginebra will be favored to win, but the 3rd quarter is a very important quarter, so let's see if my prediction is correct. I got the under 193.5 on this game, hopefully it will not go to OT.

Congrats on your win mate, the score is way below 193 points. Magnolia seldom plays a high-scoring ballgame since they are known to be a defensive team. Ginebra Kings won the game by just 3 points, 87-84 and CStand contributed a lot to that win with that lousy acting hehe. Yes, the import of Magnolia got ejected in the 3rd quarter via that 2nd technical foul by extending his foot on CStand.
1196  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Is this true? on: December 14, 2022, 10:55:20 AM
Meron na akong comment sa issue na ito sa kabilang thread at may nabasa akong update and 1B na coins, hindi 1B pesos worth na coins.
Kaya minsan talaga kapag may mga ganitong balita, mas bumebenta kapag hindi nila ini-specific kung ano talaga nangyari. Nabasa ko sa PH Metaverse page na 1B coins daw.

Haha, nakakatawa talaga tong balitang to, ni hindi man lang nag-research ng kaunti yong nag-balita kung totoo ba ng 1Billion pesos yong nawala sa kanila. IB tokens/coins might worth just a few thousand on today's price at baka nasabihan nila yong reporter na sa matagalan ay magiging 1Billion Php yong 1B tokens/coins kaya nong sinulat ay iba na haha.

Hindi na raw mapakinabangan yong coins na yon dahil wala namang alam yong kawatan paano yong ibenta at yong password ay hindi rin non alam kaya another crypto put to waste.
1197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 14, 2022, 10:46:01 AM
Yeah, SMB failed to execute the right play in the last minutes, they could have won game 1. I don't understand why they sit Romeo, I think he is a good playmaker and he will attract defenders, especially their import, so that would open up the shooters of SMB. Now, let's see the next game, it's a Manila Classico, Ginebra vs Magnolia, should be a good game.

SMB was leading the whole time but failed to protect the lead in the dying minutes. I think the execution and breaks of the game in the dying seconds just favored the Dragons but nevertheless, it was an exciting game and for sure SMB Beermen will bounce back from that lose. We can see in the first game that the Dragons struggled and they are very beatable so expect the odds to be more even in game 2.

End of the first of the second game, a very close game so far with a score of 45-44 in favor of the Kings.
1198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: December 13, 2022, 12:27:25 PM
And that's it, Inoue is the first Japanese boxer to be crowned the unified champion of the bantamweight division via knocking out Paul Butler in the eleventh round. Man, what a punishment there that Butler has absorbed.

To those who expected an early knockout, you may be disappointed but kudos to Paul Butler who have withstood the onslaught from the very first round of the fight. As I've said above Inoue might be having a hard knocking out Butler as the latter will be fighting scared, he will be inside the ring just to survive.



My bet ^^ is not settled yet but this is a win.
1199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: December 13, 2022, 12:09:43 PM
@bisdak40, count me in on that tournament.

1k for Ginebra
1k for Dragons.

This is noted mate.

@harizen your bet is also listed below.
@jakelyson, please confirm your participation kabayan so i can list your name and your bet for Magnolia.

To those who want to participate in this fun betting, you are very welcome to join, just comment/pot your bets and tag my username.
BTW, deadline for this event will be 5 minutes before tip-off.

Code:
Beermen vs Dragons (5k cap)

Beermen
1.bisdak40 - 1k
2.
3.
4.
5.

Dragons
1. Maslate - 1k
2. harizen - 1k
3.
4.
5.

Ginebra vs Magnolia (5k cap)

Ginebra
1. Maslate - 1k
2. harizen - 1k
3.
4.
5.

Magnolia
1. bisdak40 - 1k
2. jakelyson - 0.5k
3.
4.
5.
1200  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 12, 2022, 10:10:45 PM
Kala ko yayanigin ng Celtics ung Warriors pero sadyang iba ang kumpyansa ng Warriors pag asa bahay nila grabe nilaro ng Splash Bro
yung tipong inaccept yung challenge.

Nag attempt pa na pumalag yung Celtics early ng 4th pero biglang bulusok ulit ung Warriors at binaon na ng tuluyan.

Bawi na lang ulit sa mga susunod na laban madami pang parating na pwedeng pandugtong sa tayaan..

Pumutok yong Splash Bros eh kaya nagkaganon, 36 at 34 points rspectively, hirap talunin non kapag umiskor ng above 20 points yong dalawa at umambag pa si Poole ng 20 points. Delikado talaga kung pupusta ka against Warriors na maglalaro sa bahay nila at kompleto yong lineup, congrats sa nakataya pabor sa Warriors.

Wizards +6.5 @1.80 vs Nets

Nanalo yong Nets kahit wala yong big3 nila pero mukahng may isa o dalawa na hindi pa rin maglalaro sa ngayon kaya tingin ko makakaselat ako nito, homecourt rin naman ng Wizards.
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