Look at this post from the 1xbit announcement thread so you can see how its link to 1xbit. Look at this  If you right click on image and open in a new tab, you'll see it in higher resolution. There is a text under BetB2B logo -> by 1xBet <-. BetB2B and 1xBet had the same color on their logo for years. If you ask them, they'll deny but I strongly believe that they are the same. BetB2B creates a CMS, runs casino 1xBet and probably the same team also creates dozens of casinos under BetB2B CMS and run casinos to try and scam as many people as possible. Isn't it strange that almost every casino that runs BetB2B CMS, are scams? I think it's the same team. I posted the list of casinos in that thread that you are talking about - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5493037.msg63995737#msg63995737I personally wouldn't gamble in any casino that runs betb2b cms. If you are convinced that they are link, I would suggest that you get yourself ready to accept the reality that you might not be able to get your money because they probably have the same reputation since they are link with each other. Sorry for your loss mate but I hope your problem will resolve. |
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Great to see that you are providing affiliate service. But I am sorry to say you scammer because only scammers can promote scammers. And if that isn't the point then you are spammer you have posted without reading anything. Don't worry, he is not getting a response as they already left the forum a year ago. If we look at the OP's account, it hasn't been online for a year already. Let's just continue informing the forum about the reputation of 1xbit, as what we are doing is raising awareness about their scams. They said they would fix the problem when they came back a year ago, but it seems like the problem has only increased because of the promotions they are making. They lied, and on the second chance they had, they didn't use the opportunity to correct their mistakes. But I wonder if he really check what is the real situation happening here since if he just know that 1xbit is already gone and proven scammer for sure he will not bother to waste a 10 seconds of his life to post an offer like that on 1xbit thread. Lucky he can't get any answer from their representative since if happens that he work with them to share their affiliate link to a lot of people on any platform they use for sure there are huge chance that a lot of people will get scam and he might also can't get anything from them since 1xbit is proven scam. As I said, they are not active here anymore, so we can't expect them to reply to this. And if by some miracle they do, I'm not sure if their reply would satisfy the complainant. From what I've seen in this thread, concerns are not really acted upon, and even in those scam accusation threads, they replied, but their replies did not guarantee a solution to the problem. We can't expect them to comeback and fix those issue as what they say since they can't build back their reputation even if they do that since the damage they have done to this community is so deep and people will not forget about their scams committed.
They'll choose to keep it that way and just leave the forum because if they come back without a resolution, it would be insulting. It may look like they are just playing around with the money of the gamblers that are stuck in their casino. |
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First of all, I will like to welcome you to the Bitcointalk community. It is indeed a pleasure having such a platform which offers Vote to Earn in a unique and diversified way just like your platform, and as such, I have been able to give it a few minutes glance, of which I must say, it's kind of confusing to actually understand how your platform works, as I was able to click one of the link and could noticed a contradiction on the real price of Bitcoin/Ethereum and the one on your website, as there seems to be a huge gap difference. Or is that the required voting amount? And is it possible to see the total number of people that have voted in each category?
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Now, they need to rectify that as soon as possible. Seems that their price is not yet updated based on the current market. Also, if possible, are they going to provide the link where they are basing their prices? At least, players can have a look also. It's the most important part, to verify it's provable fairness. There are lots of alternative to verify the price at a given time, but it's necessary to be part of their casino as that's their main game, it would be easier for users to just click and see to verify. By the way, usually the dilemma of such kind of platform is the longevity of the project. How they can attract patrons in long-term basis? Most of the time, players are only interested in the beginning, but later on, they will jump to another platform if they are not seeing any progress or benefits.
Of course, games like this could become boring in the long run, but I'm sure that as they grow, they'll consider adding more games. Just like a dice site or a casino slowly integrating a sportsbook to attract more users, innovation is what really matters. That's the only way to compete in the crypto space. As crypto casinos gain popularity, more players will enter the market. Hence, it's very important for a casino to continue its marketing efforts and take care of their loyal clients, not only by providing good service but also by giving them satisfaction through introducing new games. |
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Great to see that you are providing affiliate service. But I am sorry to say you scammer because only scammers can promote scammers. And if that isn't the point then you are spammer you have posted without reading anything. Don't worry, he is not getting a response as they already left the forum a year ago. If we look at the OP's account, it hasn't been online for a year already. Let's just continue informing the forum about the reputation of 1xbit, as what we are doing is raising awareness about their scams. They said they would fix the problem when they came back a year ago, but it seems like the problem has only increased because of the promotions they are making. They lied, and on the second chance they had, they didn't use the opportunity to correct their mistakes. |
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I would not disagree with that, but my point is why some casinos don't have promotions for the NBA playoffs when it's the most exciting time for the NBA. It's great that Stake has it, but as I mentioned, why aren't other casinos doing the same? I understand they have more promotions for football, but can't they run an NBA promo as well?
A sportbookie that deals more in my local currency has NBA promos too but since just a nation wide sportbookie you wouldn't know about such. Now for your curiosity why casinos especially popular casinos not have this NBA promos are because their surveys haven't shown much interest of customers or gamblers in the NBA or most interests are just regional where NBA is more popular so in countries where it's not popular but gamblers are much in such country the casinos will engage in something that will definitely attract this gamblers to hold them not to loss them to other casinos why it's seems to be competitive for football promos. They will definitely start running promos for NBA when their surveys shows more interest in NBA world wide compared to footballs but as long as it remains football they might not give attention to NBA but when they find it necessary they will most definitely include it. I don't think so because Stake, one of the most popular sportsbooks, has an NBA promo, as mentioned by a user above. As of this writing, I can only see one sportsbook with a promo, which I mentioned. There are actually plenty of sportsbooks constantly advertising here, and they don't have it. I'm not really demanding or anything, I'm just quite curious about the reason. So far, it seems like only Stake is delivering some fun for NBA fans. Well, I guess I'll just have to wait until the NBA Finals. Maybe other sportsbooks will run a promotion since that is the biggest event in the NBA. So about this promo; SATURDAY MAY 25 (00:30 GMT)
DALLAS MAVERICKS @ MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES
Mavs Win / Kyrie Irving more than 30+ Points
Timberwolves Win / Karl-Anthony Towns more than 30+ Points Mavs win but Irving only score 20 points, so no bonus. |
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The 20 free spins are off for now.
Hopefully not for long. But we would need to figure out ways to reduce the funds leakage. We would likely add a requirement to place a bet with the profit and only be able to withdraw if the bet wins.
To be honest with you, in such competitive market, I doubt there will be many gamblers interested in playing on your casino after your decision to pause the 20 free spins promotion. You need to make huge improvements on the design of your website, add more games.. To prevent users from abusing the free spins bonus, a high enough min deposit requirement plus a min of 1x rollover requirement should do it. By the way, is your slot game probably fair? It says there's a "funds leakage," so it must have been abused. Yes, they can't live without a spin bonus as most casinos have that promo to attract gamblers. I hope this will not take long to come back and that they can fix what needs to be fixed. This is actually one of the biggest challenges when running a promotion, as it could be abused if there are no strong internal controls in place. I've also seen similar problems with other casinos, which are way bigger than this one. They didn't anticipate well those abuses that might happen to them that's why there's an huge issue has been raise up and that create huge trouble to them. There promotion create a huge failure since instead of they getting a good result or approach to the people it create serious problem which cause people to doubt their reputation as new casino in this forum. I guess there's a lot of things need to work out since for sure that issue happen to them it make people to think about playing on their casino and for sure many will pass on and stay on the casino where they are usually playing since either they are still doubting or they can't get something since the current promotions they release has been stop. I think that's understandable, as new casinos usually make mistakes, but as long as they pay what needs to be paid, their reputation is still intact. Pausing the bonus system because they found some issues is not really a big problem. Maybe some of their gamblers will leave, but eventually, when they come back with a better system, they can attract those gamblers again. As gamblers, we don't stick with one casino only; we tend to shop among many to find good promotions that could help us increase our chances of winning. So, it's never too late for AnonBet.net to come back strong. |
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The 20 free spins are off for now.
Hopefully not for long. But we would need to figure out ways to reduce the funds leakage. We would likely add a requirement to place a bet with the profit and only be able to withdraw if the bet wins.
To be honest with you, in such competitive market, I doubt there will be many gamblers interested in playing on your casino after your decision to pause the 20 free spins promotion. You need to make huge improvements on the design of your website, add more games.. To prevent users from abusing the free spins bonus, a high enough min deposit requirement plus a min of 1x rollover requirement should do it. By the way, is your slot game probably fair? It says there's a "funds leakage," so it must have been abused. Yes, they can't live without a spin bonus as most casinos have that promo to attract gamblers. I hope this will not take long to come back and that they can fix what needs to be fixed. This is actually one of the biggest challenges when running a promotion, as it could be abused if there are no strong internal controls in place. I've also seen similar problems with other casinos, which are way bigger than this one. |
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If I understands it correctly, it was like the program has been abuse, but even though it's currently cancelled, in a statement as provided in the link you shared, they promise they'll return with a better system.
I really don't think so. When you launch a program a first time, it's necessary to have a breaker to hold it for assessment before re-open it. I see it is normal, not strange, and less probability for abuse as main cause of their program suspension. This one is different because it was a sudden decision or is not pre planned. Because if you read the statement from them, it seems like there was a mistake on the supposed process, and they need to stop it immediately to correct it. please read.
When I woke up on Saturday morning EST, I caught up with the team and questioned the process failures given the high amount of credits going out (far beyond our agreed daily cap), hasty withdrawals of them by players and temporarily suspended the program.
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If I understands it correctly, it was like the program has been abuse, but even though it's currently cancelled, in a statement as provided in the link you shared, they promise they'll return with a better system.
It's seriously weird that they didn't anticipate this considering the fact that they have been in this business for several years now. Abusers are lurking everywhere and they try to sniff out any opportunity wherever it is. Maybe it's their first time making that offer? We are not sure about that, but it's good that they realized it before the problem became too big. Also, in the announcement, they were quite transparent, and I appreciate that in a casino that I'm supporting. They should have prepared themselves properly by following strict rules in order to differentiate effectively between legitimate members and abusers. It already happened, I'm sure they'll learned from their mistake but they'll be coming back with a better rules, a rules that would not allow the abusers to win. |
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Thank you, @danherbias07, for sharing the Stake promotion. I will definitely participate in this as it's quite easy to understand and not too complicated, so I feel my chances of winning are good.
It is down to large audience and global reach. A global casino will be more interested in advertising on global events which will reach a ton of their players. Events like the NBA and NFL gets tons of marketing pushed by millions of dollars but those not living in countries where those sports are popular will not get to know this.
I would not disagree with that, but my point is why some casinos don't have promotions for the NBA playoffs when it's the most exciting time for the NBA. It's great that Stake has it, but as I mentioned, why aren't other casinos doing the same? I understand they have more promotions for football, but can't they run an NBA promo as well? With the links given above it goes to show that if you look hard enough you will find some promotions for the games of your choice.
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Maybe I miss stake as I'm using a lot of sportsbook, and on the sportsbooks that I usually used, they don't have that promo. |
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I just noticed that most of the sportsbooks in the forum are very supportive of football. They have promos every time there's a big game or when certain sportsbooks have partnerships with a team or a player. I'm just curious, though, because the NBA is very popular in our country, so I can't believe that sportsbooks here do not have partnerships or promotions for certain big events.
Is this related to where a casino is operating and the fact that football is more popular in their country? Or is it because football has a larger audience in sports betting compared to the NBA? Kindly enlighten me on this matter because I also like to participate in promotions for the NBA, but I cannot find a good site that offers such promotions.
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If I understands it correctly, it was like the program has been abuse, but even though it's currently cancelled, in a statement as provided in the link you shared, they promise they'll return with a better system. While many applications were from genuine VIPs, we also received a significant number from non-VIPs. Our team, unprepared for such a high volume, rushed to match deposits, sometimes neglecting to thoroughly verify proof. This led to us distributing funds, much of which went to players who, unfortunately, didn't stay long after receiving them.
When I woke up on Saturday morning EST, I caught up with the team and questioned the process failures given the high amount of credits going out (far beyond our agreed daily cap), hasty withdrawals of them by players and temporarily suspended the program. Moving forward, we are resetting the program and introducing better systems to ensure the agreed strategy is followed properly. We also won’t run it over the weekends to ensure smoother processing in business hours. Things like this really happened, there are a lot of abusers out their just waiting for the opportunity, I'm glad metawin realized it early and they had halted it immediately. As for you @AHOYBRAUSE you can patiently wait as they'll be coming back, and ensuring this time that the real VIP will be given the right priority. |
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Of course, because house edge does tells your chances, a lower house edge the higher chances of winning although your chances is still below 50%.
This games with house edge are luck based game
That's not how the he works. The house edge does not affect the odds and does not affect your chances of winning/losing. If you play a coin flip game, for example, your chances of winning/losing are 50/50 meaning you always have a chance of 1/2 to win regardless of the house edge. It only affects the win amount: the higher the house edge the lower your winning not your chance of winning. I am pretty much referring to the winning percentage that would result from your money. Just like in sports betting, you can bet on a 50/50 game, but if the odds you take are -110, that still represents a 10% house edge. You'll be paying $110 to win $100 on a 50/50 match. Maybe we can make it simple, because we are talking about the house edge here, which will, of course, impact our overall chances of winning, which, as mentioned, I'm basing on the return of money. To illustrate, if I have a bankroll of $1,000 and I keep playing at odds of -110, I need to win at least 53% overall in order to be profitable, considering I am using a flat betting method for my bankroll management. You are right, freedomgo. khaled0111 gives an incorrect example, since in the example of a coin flip game the House Edge is 0. It seems to me that it is being confused with games that are similar to coin flip, although they are not exactly coin flip, and where there is an HE. For example, if you play red or black in American roulette the odds are not exactly 50% but 47.36%, due to the 0 and 00 in green. If we do speak about coinflip then house edge cant really be applied considering that the game would really be that 50-50 chance of head or tails but the way on how the house would really be making out that kind of deduction is on the payout that you would really be getting or on the winning amount that you had got. Its not really that something necessarily that would be applied internally on a certain game just like on what we do see on dice games and other casino based games on where HE si really that something that will be always present since this is where companies do really make money. In comparing about 1-2% HE then people would really be that preferring the less of course because it would really be that have lesser deduction as you do pro long your game. As a gambler then there are those who dont mind much about this edge but there are ones who are really that too keen in between differences. Let's talk about house edge only, deductions are different like charges on withdrawals or close to it. Coin flip, that's an obvious 50/50, no house edge in short. Casino's are also transparent with the house edge, especially on online games, but if they wouldn't tell you, for sure you can easily know if you do your job to research, just like going in a physical casino, you should understand the game you are playing so you'll know what percent is the house edge. Of course there are still gamblers who wins, but the catch here is most of us losses in the long run leaving the casino to be still profitable. One thing that you should be putting up into your mind that house do always win at the end.Even if you do saw your wagered amount and trying out to make up some computations
and deducting about on the HE then you could really say that you are really at that great disadvantage.
Your wagered amount does not work against a casino, every roll there's a house edge, and if you think that the wagered strategy will beat it like using a martingale strategy, then you are wrong because casino are pretty much aware of that and they'll just easily activate the limit per gambler. |
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If I'm not mistaken, this could be like a referral system where you have to go through a specific site from where you see the bonus being advertised. As long as you play with the stake from the link you click, that’s fine. However, as most of the above posters mentioned, there’s always a rollover requirement since they don’t give away free money. The catch here is that you’ll enjoy a better bonus than what you can see in the stake casino, so I think it’s legit as long as it matches my explanation above.
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Of course, because house edge does tells your chances, a lower house edge the higher chances of winning although your chances is still below 50%.
This games with house edge are luck based game
That's not how the he works. The house edge does not affect the odds and does not affect your chances of winning/losing. If you play a coin flip game, for example, your chances of winning/losing are 50/50 meaning you always have a chance of 1/2 to win regardless of the house edge. It only affects the win amount: the higher the house edge the lower your winning not your chance of winning. I am pretty much referring to the winning percentage that would result from your money. Just like in sports betting, you can bet on a 50/50 game, but if the odds you take are -110, that still represents a 10% house edge. You'll be paying $110 to win $100 on a 50/50 match. Maybe we can make it simple, because we are talking about the house edge here, which will, of course, impact our overall chances of winning, which, as mentioned, I'm basing on the return of money. To illustrate, if I have a bankroll of $1,000 and I keep playing at odds of -110, I need to win at least 53% overall in order to be profitable, considering I am using a flat betting method for my bankroll management. |
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@mindrust, OP followed your advise as he already posted this in the services section. looking for the best signature campaign manager with experience in the social games industry! my telegram : @TheMisterGreen
This is a different type of game for me, and it's quite new, so I guess you really need to introduce it to potential gamblers so they'll understand and become interested in it. Running a campaign is one of the best ways to introduce a game, and as long as you can maintain a positive reputation, this game will eventually grow. |
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Quite risky, mate. Just a Bitcoin address without any assurance about your reputation raises concerns. It would be better if you also had a registered website so that if someone wants to complain, they have someone to go after. Simply looking at it, it appears like a Ponzi scheme because of the intro that says "double your money."
Honestly, I didn't read everything you wrote because, from the very start, it already looked suspicious. Sorry, but I think you need to present it better to look more convincing since that address you provided would receive money, and we're not even sure how you'll process the payment or if you'll process it at all.
The idea of the bet is double -fees the money allowing BTC entropy decide. Just a game to break the realty for the higher IQ Just because I don't like this or other players doesn't mean you can call them low IQ. A game is supposed to serve everyone, as that's the way your company will progress. But let's get to the point: if your game is unique and people love to play it, that's great. However, reputation is another thing. You are just a newbie here, which means you don't have the reputation yet for people to trust you with their money. Who holds that Bitcoin address? Is it your own wallet? |
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Quite risky, mate. Just a Bitcoin address without any assurance about your reputation raises concerns. It would be better if you also had a registered website so that if someone wants to complain, they have someone to go after. Simply looking at it, it appears like a Ponzi scheme because of the intro that says "double your money."
Honestly, I didn't read everything you wrote because, from the very start, it already looked suspicious. Sorry, but I think you need to present it better to look more convincing since that address you provided would receive money, and we're not even sure how you'll process the payment or if you'll process it at all.
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I'm wondering what sportsbooks now offer free withdrawals. I use Duelbits, and I'm not sure if they charge because I normally gamble using altcoins. Altcoins already have lower transaction fees, so it doesn't hurt as much compared to casinos that charge fixed fees which is over the actual network fee.
Yeah, free withdrawals are very rare now. I think sportsbet.io has them (at least until 6 months ago). BC.game has 1 free withdrawal per day if you are at VIP level 38 and higher. Stake's fees are ok as well I think. I have no problem with Stake mate, their withdrawal fees are very reasonable. I think we shouldn't expect free withdrawals now, but as long as the fees are reasonable and the casino has a good reputation, that's already good to go. With the volatility of network fees nowadays, casinos are forced to adjust their fees as well. However, like I mentioned, with altcoins, everything is cheaper and quicker. Great job to BC.Game for offering one free withdrawal per day. That's good enough I guess, we just have to control ourselves and not withdraw more than once a day. Now, it's a competition to see which casino can provide the best service, and that's good because it gives us gamblers many options to choose from. |
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IIRC, there is not withdrawal fee and they only accept bitcoin. When they rebranded, I don't like the UI anymore as it doesn't load quick in my end, and I'm quite surprising with the high fees they are charging for a network fee while now fees are already cheap.
On their other site, they used to have a fee of 0.1 mbtc then after some time they started introducing free withdrawal requests for their regular users, so maybe they've done the same with nitrobetting. NitrogenSports was my favorite before the time of Stake and Duelbits, which are now the most popular sports betting platforms for me. Previously, NitrogenSports' main competitor was Cloudbet, but I didn't like Cloudbet's manual withdrawal processing period. Those were the good early days of my gambling journey and it was fun, but nowadays it's even more enjoyable with more options to gamble. I'm wondering what sportsbooks now offer free withdrawals. I use Duelbits, and I'm not sure if they charge because I normally gamble using altcoins. Altcoins already have lower transaction fees, so it doesn't hurt as much compared to casinos that charge fixed fees which is over the actual network fee. |
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