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1261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should security be employed in local bet shop? on: December 25, 2023, 01:25:26 PM
For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

In every single country in Europe it is mandatory to have a security or more than one to safeguard your business and clients from harm.Also in some eastern Europe countries I have visited I have seen the same thing,there were quite some security guards running around the big local casinos keeping track of everything going on there and stopping any fight that may arise from drunk gamblers or sore losing gamblers.I personally when I see that a local casino has not at least a security guard guaranteeing safety turn back and do not start playing there.I think many will agree that security is an utmost priority in delicate places like local gambling shops.
1262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? on: December 25, 2023, 01:09:31 PM
Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

With this you remembered to me some really strange persons which were not that mentally unstable but they were working in construction sites and as soon as they finished they come completely in dust and dirty clothes to place their bets in the lotto club.At that time I used to go every weekend in that lotto club and although they were not unstable mentally at all,they were "fighting" with each other in a funny situation where Inter Milan lost and every body were watching the game on TV,the sons told to their father which were a fan of Inter that you will never again watch Inter on TV  Grin.

I think everyone should be given the chance to gamble as long as they want it.
1263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lack of proper knowledge on casino games increases chance of loss and reduce fun on: December 25, 2023, 11:54:46 AM
I played Roulette on a casino three days ago and it was obviously my first-time playing Roulette, I literally didn't understand my way out and I just knew I should select a number and click on spin. I did that obediently and time after time, I lost. I was really motivating myself with the next spin, and next and next, but all to no avail, I was lost in the ride until I drained my deposit for the day's gambling, that time It dawned on me that my Ignorance has contributed to my parallel losses for the day, I just logged out and ended that day's session disappointed.

Yesterday, I was discussing with my friend on my experience, and it was more obvious that my Ignorance played a major role in my bitter experience days before. It was after I was whipped badly that I went back and saw the demo option which I should've used to learn before I engaged. Also, I wish to advise all new gamblers to visit demo space in the casinos where you can learn before you start playing with real money cos I think it will help people master the games before engaging to have more fun, because not only did I lose money that day, but honestly, I didn't have any fun.

I would like to ask if some people here has experienced this too and what is the possibility that most people who experience repeated losses are Ignorant of the game play patterns.

Well Roulette has many different options,you can bet on red or black,from 1-12,13-24.25-36 and on 0 are some of them which you can play.Of course it is always better to prepare yourself,when I used to play slots I did not start right away,I always used to hit the I button standing for information regarding that slot.The same I did when I started sport betting with the Asian handicap lines which were really difficult to understand at first,so I never suggest going full strength without knowing the rules of a specific game,it is always better to be prepared in anything you are playing,kinda like in Poker which you need to learn different variants before you start playing confidently.
1264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you make gambling a profession - a full time job on: December 25, 2023, 09:52:29 AM
This is actually interesting, but I still don't dare take the risk of becoming a profession just as a gambler, like what happened to my friends where they really couldn't control their gambling, they became addicts and even spent a lot of their assets. If I think a little wiser than making gambling as a profession, why don't we work on a gambling website, either as an admin or own a casino company as well. it will definitely keep us safer from the risks of gambling with big money as a salary. It doesn't need to be instant, the most important thing is that our assets are safe.

It is simple,you don't have a chance to make gambling a full time profession unless you are one of the guys who keep appearing on TV playing on Poker Stars.They make a living from that but all other people cannot be as successful as even odds of 1.01-1.05 will make you lose bets so it is impossible to make gambling a full time job with sport betting.If you think of having a huge amount of money and trying to play that on slots to hit that max win chances are high you will lose everything before you get to win a substantial amount there.Blackjack and Roulette are of course games of luck so I don't see any possibility to make gambling a full time job.
1265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to ride and stop! on: December 24, 2023, 07:49:22 PM
I decided to create this topic as a tip to fellow gambler that wants to have a slightly increase chance to win on gambling.

Fella should know when to ride when you are on a win streak. You can test the water first by betting slowly until you get the tempo of winning streak then slowly increase your bet while you are still winning. Stop immediately when you encounter a lose or two because there’s a high chance that you will be tilted and chase loss until you lose everything.

Don’t increase your bet when you are losing because it will just amplify your loss immediately once you are in bad streak. Always test the water before you increase your bet.  Wink

Sharing my recent juicy win using small bankroll below! At first I’m hesitant to ride but it takes courage to increase bet slowly especially if you have small bankroll.


That is not always the truth.Sometimes but of course I agree in very few times when you increase your bet you happen to win a huge multiplier and it can be a decisive action.I of course also am of the thinking that when you start a losing streak most of the times it will continue to be a losing streak.

I think that knowing when to stop is an art that very few people know when to apply it and if a lot of people knew how to apply it then most casinos would go bankrupt so most people do not know when to stop and this is a very risky business for those persons.
1266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: December 24, 2023, 05:16:17 PM
I used to do it heavily in the last job.I changed for a better job during December and I am with another 8 persons in the same office so I have a lot of difficulties to gamble here,it is almost impossible no matter that I have put a super privacy filter to my phone.At the other job I was alone in the office and I could open any browser I wanted as I was the IT admin and I had full access to every site much different to the other users while in here I am the last guy coming into office so I stay calm and I don't talk much.

I will be honest,this is a much better paying job but I miss the liberty to do anything I liked I used to do in the old job.
1267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Portuguese League - Liga Portugal 2023/24 on: December 24, 2023, 01:42:25 PM
Nacional vs Braga could be the most complicated, as Nacional is usually a difficult team. But Braga has all the arguments to win.

In the middle of this list, I only paid attention to Porto. Despite thinking they will win, it is just a game to guarantee the schedule, as the team is already out of the competition. The same happens with Leixões, but here the rivalry comes into play. Leixões is a team from the same city as Porto, so historically there is some rivalry. They will certainly give everything to put on a good performance. But, of course, Porto is much superior to Leixões, and will certainly win.

And I've managed to won another multiple bet hehe, it worked this time  Grin
Porto, Braga, Benfica and Sporting won their matches and I managed to win a 2.02 odds bet, not bad for ending the year with a positive bankroll in the Portuguese championship (yes, I used my Liga Bwin bankroll to bet on those cup matches)

Now I'm going to see if I can place another bet on the 4 or if I can split it into 2 bets for the last round this year
The multiple of 4 matches give me 2.94 odds  Shocked

As long as these teams are playing not against each other chances are high that they should win their games,well I would say except Braga which I am not hundred percent sure I would go for the safe route of the three big teams of the Portugal Liga which are Benfica,Sporting and Porto,usually these are the teams who give the rhythm to the Liga Portugal.

I would of course not exclude any surprise result from them either as a gift to the holiday season  Grin so as long as betting companies are involved in gambling surprise results in any league are the norm  Grin.
1268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: December 24, 2023, 01:16:21 PM
Right game is not enough, the right startegy is important as well as that will give you the win, a consistent win that we are all wanting for. One shot or big shot win could make us make big money but we will still come back to gamble, and that will eventually result to losing what we won, so it's not working, we need some kind of consistency to gain that profit.
Right games and right strategies is not really enough depend luck or not with gambling platform to be winner, I don't sure consistency only can't guarantee to gain high profit in gambling platform because many gambler have tried thousand kinds of strategies, bet with the right games based on their skill until keep consistent repeat on the same game but not get lucky yet with consistent win the gambling.

If not lucky in gambling waste your time, strategies and all thing required in gambling because the only one important thing in gambling is about lucky.

Luck is a vital part of a consistent winner and in gambling is not otherwise.Let me make you an example,from Ice Hockey as sport we know that usually any team scores at least 1 or 2 goals and I have done quite some experiments from the most well known leagues that of USA and Russia,the NHL and KHL.I have opted to place a bet in 7-10 games in many different fashions where I choose in one parlay the home team to score over 0.5 goals with really low odds,and then with over 1.5 goals with low odds.After that I did the same with the away teams,the result is that none of them come true,one such game would not score a single goal which is quite strange in Ice Hockey and with this example to demonstrate that if you don't have luck you never can be successful in gambling.
1269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Most gamblers do not believe they can consistently make money, that's why... on: December 24, 2023, 12:53:26 PM
It doesn’t matter whether you’re happy or not, but there are different points of view. First of all, what do you call success? Secondly, at first there was a question: is there anyone who makes STABLE money from gambling, and then you said who was successful. I think that earning consistently is much harder than achieving one-time but major success. The whole difficulty lies in the fact that no matter how disciplined, calculating and cold-blooded you are, there are many factors in gambling that do not depend on you.
And the most important argument for me is that I don’t know a single successful gambler. This doesn't mean that they don't exist, but it means that if they exist, there aren't that many of them.

It is a drug.That what it becomes to the people who keep coming back to gambling,they may pass a very happy day with their family like in these days of vacations yet they don't consider it a happy day if they don't gamble during that day no matter if they win or lose they need to have that "drug" and as such most people already know that they can't win consistently.

It is very difficult to become disciplined and to stop gambling,I am personally fighting to stop it yet the casino where I play keeps throwing to me bonus after bonus and I will continue to play until I finish them,then it is a stop or at least I will try hard to stop.

There is a saying where I live now "who have seen the benefits of gambling except casino owners so stop gambling right away" and this saying comes from a Balkan country where people look like they are pathological gamblers.
1270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Features of the worldview of a gambler on: December 24, 2023, 12:39:58 PM
One thing I know about gamblers and its addicts is that there is the believe and zeal to win is always there. They are optimistic to win and that is why they another game for next round try and unfortunately winning is not given on a platter of gold so either they fail more or they are just within a fair luck here and there as we know the house edge override the possibility for a winning over losing. There is a believe to win and that is why the next game is queued up without recourse to loses, debt loans or emotional stability.

The fact that the chance is always there to win is what make most people coming back and especially gamblers following that win.They of course have a pathological optimism that brings them to the casino again despite several heavy losing sessions before and if they did not have it then it means they would be more practical and pragmatic to stop playing or coming back to play at the casino,they lack also analysis of what just happened to them as they pass it as something normal when in fact it is not normal to lose a lot of money yet they think in the next session they will recover that money which is what leads to them coming back and back asking for more until they get addicted,they are pretty readable,the gamblers.
1271  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Is WinTomato casino SCAM? on: December 23, 2023, 10:25:34 PM
There might be issues with their promotions and it doesn’t meant the site is a scam.
Just try to do more research and ask the support about this, there might be bug or what and you can only confirm it by contacting them. I also experienced the same problem before with other site, and they fixed it the moment i raised my concern to them, this might work as well on this site.

Exactly.You don't rate a casino a scam when problems arise in their bonuses or promotions as they are added things,they should not be taken for granted although 100% of the casinos offer a bonus system nowadays to keep users hooked into them.

I would say that before joining a casino people should do their own research and be based on the feedback other people have left for that casino,if not a lot of people talk about them,their ANN page is not huge and all the feedback is not positive I would refrain myself for playing there,better play in casinos where you are 100% sure no problems will arise and if they do they will be solved fast in 100% of the cases.
1272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 23, 2023, 10:12:47 PM
DISASTER FOR NAPOLI.
They were supposed to be the potential winners of this season.
Now they are risking to not qualify on the CL

As I said above it was because of the red card.Before they got the red card they had their chances and they could have also have won the game if they were just a bit more pragmatic.Napoli is different this year from the last season,they entered to win again but they saw that many other teams are really strong this year and in my opinion no matter how great the other teams are the Serie A will be won either by Inter which has the majority of the chances to do so or Juventus as the second strongest contender to the title.
The beautiful surprise from this year is absolutely Bologna which is finding themselves in a Champions League spot,hopefully they stay there until the end of Serie A.
1273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: December 23, 2023, 10:01:31 PM
I have always thought that one day the day will come for me to either hit that huge max multiplier of well over x10.000 or to quit completely.The second happened to me,I think I have quit completely from yesterday and today play sessions,I had a lot of money to use and try different slots,I tried only one provider and that is Pragmatic Play and it got from bad to worse in a consecutive way after winning an x1800 multiplier which is not enough for me to satisfy my desire of winnings.Based on this I know that I have said many times I will quit slots and not kept the promise,yet tonight I have an 100% percent intention of quitting for good after losing in more than 30 different slots during these 2 days.So overall everyone loses on slots.
1274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 23, 2023, 09:21:52 PM
If we refer to the goals that both teams had pre-season I think yes, they are currently struggling badly without a doubt. But if they adjust their goals and Napoli wants to finish the season decently, I think that is still within the realm of possibility. A win today would of course be very conducive to that goal. But it is the stubborn match that I expected from Roma and that makes it never easy to score goals against them. As we know Roma, they have less ball possession but somehow find their way to shoot more often.
No club will be happily engaged for a draw tie against their opponents, everyone keeps all hope alive and targets for the bigger points to be earn this season, afterall its not yet mid-season and every club have this hope of bouncing back to formidable shape. Finishing the season in the top four would be a big challenge for Napoli and AS Roma, but I'm sure one of these clubs will scale through. AS Roma vs Napoli match is ongoing, still 0-0 and no difference from bothsides. Making no difference with Napoli in the second half. Both clubs are preparing tactical balance to ensure things fall in place for them.

Roma has the better chances now in the last quarter of the game as the team of Napoli got booked with a red card.Now Roma should take full advantage from this fact and the fact that they are playing in their home stadium which should be enough for them to get a bigger boost to try and win this game which so far is goalless.

Of course Napoli is not the team of the last year this year but they have recovered greatly in these last games of the Serie A so they are a very strong and serious contender for any team,even if it finishes 0-0 it would not be a surprise result at all despite Napoli being with 10 men.
1275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 23, 2023, 08:54:31 PM
Draw is not a good result for arsenal by this time , playing draws when they are supposed to increase their points more against other top Premier league which can make them to win the title.
A draw at Anfield is a good result for Arsenal, and it keeps them on the summit for Christmas, that is not bad at all. I knew Arsenal were not going to win the game, that is why my initial prediction was either a Liverpool win or a draw. Having said that, i'd say a draw was a fair result, neither team were at their best and sharing the points feels like a very fair end to the game. The EPL is not decided in December, so this game doesn't determine anything in the title race, there's still so much points to battle for and quite a lot of things are going to happen from now until the end of the season.

Of course the Premier League is never decided in December but of course if either of the teams had won the game of tonight it would have been a beneficial move in their fight for the title.I think that both teams had a good opportunity now that City game was postponed and Aston Villa did not win at home yesterday to have created a good gap against the followers.

The good thing I am looking at is that Tottenham is back at winning ways again after having a bad phase of the Premier League,they are winning the games and as long as they win games and other don't win that means that they will have a chance too to be in the fight again for the title of the Premier League.
1276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The European Super League on: December 23, 2023, 08:42:50 PM
Football fans, what's your view of the European Super League?
The format will be a total of 64 teams divided into 3 divisions (Star, Gold and Blue)
Each team plays 14 matches (7 home and 7 away matches).
Not only will this competition put big clubs against each other each match week, but it will also give these teams a lot of money. A lot of these clubs need money. It's normal for most English clubs to reject this because they are allowed to spend more money than the other leagues in Europe.
There are a couple of things I still do not understand yet. Would these teams still play in the champions league?

What do y'all think? Is the Super League possible and do you support it? What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting it?

I am not supporting it like most of the high class figures in the UEFA government.They say that there is no reason to have another European Super League which would be senseless and I fully agree with them.The teams and players are already tired with all the fixtures in Champions League,Europa League and Europa Conference League and all the domestic leagues where they play and adding another ESL would be pointless as it would not attract more than the audience that this sport already have.

They can say Gold,Star and Blue just as marketing terms but the reality is that of what I described above which would add nothing to the European competitions.
1277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does casino streamers have influence in your gambling life? on: December 23, 2023, 07:03:14 PM
I came across on YouTube where a gambling casino social influencer was streaming about a casinos platform.
He literally brought out how phone and was illustrating to the audiences that it is just few steps to take the winning on your games which is making choice of your predictions, choose amount to bet and also indicate his hashtag referral code and click on confirm.
Immediately you get credited directly to your account that just won.
I just smiled but I want to ask, how many of you are creates interests on a particular casino platform due to th influence of the casinos steamers?

Not really interested in any streamer as they are playing with sponsored money and not money of their own so they can make any prediction they like and not give the slightest f*ck about what result will come,win or loss,it is not the money from their own pocket in the end.By doing so they not only get money from the casino that sponsors them but they also get money from the referral code and other commissions.That is why I don't bother following anyone of them,I know that they do not do deep analysis for their predictions at all and just throw random tips at you just to increase their commissions.
1278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 23, 2023, 06:40:40 PM
It's really an interesting encounter between Liverpool vs arsenal, it's half time, are they are playing out a 1-1 draw, but the var officiating has really been bad, why would they not call back the penalty incident, a clear hand ball from ordegard.
But as it's stands now, it can go either side, it's a close tie no doubt, but if their is a winning in this game, I see Liverpool coming out victorious.

Liverpool is the slight favorite in this game and I think that if they win it would be a fair result based on the performance I have seen so far.Aston Villa had their golden chance yesterday night which they threw away in the most unbelievable way as they drew against Sheffield United at home.Now any team coming victorious from this encounter between Liverpool and Arsenal will have a clear view of the top of the standings as other opponents could not win and Manchester City had their game postponed because they played yesterday in the Clubs World Cup final which they won against Fluminense with 4-0 as a result.
1279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have any one had experiences with banned bank/providers because of gambling? on: December 23, 2023, 03:34:38 PM
I always bypass to directly withdraw crypto to my bank account from the exchange of my choice.I use a "man in the middle" service (I know this mostly relates to network attacks) but in here I am talking about these three steps,1 withdrawing money to my wallet from my crypto casino,2 then I deposit to an exchange online which use semi automatic or automatic transfers to my VISA card and not to my bank account,since VISA card has a limit daily of 10.000 dollars then I am safe as I never have the chance to get that huge amount of money daily and 3 I wait for money to come to my VISA card which of course is linked to my bank account yet the bank does not know that the money comes from a crypto casino.
1280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 23, 2023, 02:22:08 PM
I have only one question and that is when the f Manchester United will sack Ten Haag as he is the pure evil for Manchester United in my opinion.He really made a shameful performance when he could not qualify further in none of the European competitions in a group where was both Galatasaray and Fc Kopenhagen and that says a lot for me,now after such performance have degraded even further by collecting lost game after lost game also in the Premier League and right now they are losing 2-0 against West Ham.If they don't sack Ten Haag today then I think they will never sack him even if he makes Manchester United go down one category.
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