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1941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: September 17, 2023, 09:01:39 PM
You've already won that side bet; this Chelsea team will not finish ahead of this Liverpool team. Spent £1 billion to look like Swamsea. I'm exhausted, man. When will you need your 1mBTC?

You have that one against me as well Grin
Don't give up just yet, it's still not theoretically lost. It will be in January though.

This Chelsea team is simply horrible, nothing can save Boehly's Frankenstein project.

I think it is a bit to early to call this project a Frankenstein one.There are another 30 weeks of football or a bit more until the Premier League ends and I think Boehly has learned his lesson last season that changing often the coach is not the way to go so I believe he will keep Pochettino until the end of the season no matter what results he gets.

I am confident that Chelsea will improve over the long run and they most likely will get a European spot in the end of the Premier League,maybe an over optimistic prediction but I am sure Chelsea will achieve it  Grin.
1942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 17, 2023, 08:39:50 PM
Real Madrid is playing like a shitty team from Secunda Liga and they are 0-1 so far only because of their goalkeeper otherwise they would have been down 0-3.If they don't change anything in the second half this game will end in a lost one for Real Madrid,their coach Ancelotti is changing a lot of things by making Rodrigo their main attacker play one time from the left,one time in the center and one time in the right yet without yielding any result so far.Most probably Ancelotti should be greatly regretting those words about Mbappe that Real Madrid does not need another attacker,things are looking completely different now,they need one like Mbappe as soon as possible.
Real Madrid has broken the deadlock in the match on the first minute of the second half with a powerful shot from Valvarde  to equalise the goal. One thing that I have observe in Real Madrid this season is that they always allow their opponent to score first before them, and they do all their welcome back in the second half, we saw this in their last match, and I also think this is how this match will also end. They are dominating the second half after recovering from the game. Real Sociedad are on pressure.
Goal ball Joselu has scored with a header on the 60th minutes to put Real Madrid on the lead, what a perfect timing and a perfect goal.
Real Madrid 2-1 Real Sociedad


At least they started luckily the second half and are winning the game so far.This should put Real Sociedad to come out and equalize and in these circumstances Real Madrid should be a killer to this game if they get them in a counter attack.It would be a huge mistake for Real Madrid to start thinking about defending the result to much.I am sure Ancelotti their coach has a lot of experience and he knows very well that points lost at home games can cost you a lot even the league title so most likely he will do anything in his power to get this win.
1943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: September 17, 2023, 08:15:41 PM
The funny thing is that in the pool almost all the top guys did not move positions,showing that most of us believed to much in Verstappen and Redbull.I got this race the lowest ever amount of points including EBP I only got 7 points  Grin.

Mercedes I think made an error to not let Hamilton pass Russell when Hamilton was near 1 second faster than his team mate,the end of the race would have been a much much different story then but Mercedes believed more in Russell this time,he tried and over did it by hitting the wall desperately trying to catch Norris and Sainz.
I didn't sacrifice my EBP points and change my prediction because last time I did it, I finally lose some points, and being late few times cost me several positions in the leaderboard because of those missing EBP points (along with the pole position one) despite knowing the starting grid positions. Red Bull Racing team encountered numerous technical issues for preparing the cars of Verstappen and Sergio Perez for this Grand Prix, but they should be ok next week for Japan Grand Prix race at Suzuka.

They are already saying so but FIA has lately made a change to the regulations that maybe they were thinking Redbull was using that as a grey area and this was the first race after such regulations.I am not saying that most probably FIA hit it right away and even if they don't do well at Suzuka I would not be surprised that much,they are already Champions for this season so I expect them to take things calmly and maybe they are already thinking about next year car because in the remaining races the competition cannot hit them hard,there is simple not enough time and races to overthrow them from the reigning positions.
1944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 17, 2023, 07:50:20 PM
Real Madrid is playing like a shitty team from Secunda Liga and they are 0-1 so far only because of their goalkeeper otherwise they would have been down 0-3.If they don't change anything in the second half this game will end in a lost one for Real Madrid,their coach Ancelotti is changing a lot of things by making Rodrigo their main attacker play one time from the left,one time in the center and one time in the right yet without yielding any result so far.Most probably Ancelotti should be greatly regretting those words about Mbappe that Real Madrid does not need another attacker,things are looking completely different now,they need one like Mbappe as soon as possible.
1945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: September 17, 2023, 07:33:59 PM
Arsenal nearly surprised us again when they ended 0-0 the first half I thought that maybe they were going to lose their game 1-0 like they did last season where it costed them the complete Premier League in that lost game against Everton together with the draw at home against Southampton.

Chelsea was unlucky today,they should have gotten the win even if they played in a chaotic way,Bournemouth did not show anything and they let Chelsea play completely this game by dominating it,0-0 is not a good result of course for them but they should be happy what with they did today,the results will come sooner or later.
1946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 17, 2023, 07:20:29 PM
Wow not a single one of the main favorites in this league won their game during this weekend.Paris,Monaco,Lens and Marseille all failed to win and they all lost or drew their games which makes this week in the French Ligue 1 really strange to say the least,I never have seen the same happening here before especially when three of these favorites were playing at their home field except Monaco which was playing away and a draw is not the end of the world nor a big surprise result,these are three though are huge surprises in the results of this league,I wonder if anyone of us has hit a win in sport betting in this league as it seems quite impossible with these results.
1947  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: September 17, 2023, 06:41:33 PM
Different race today in F1 where Ferrari won a deserved race but greatly helped by the Safety Car perfectly timed when they were about to enter pit stops anyway,this translated to very bad luck for Redbulls who were planning on staying ahead while the Ferraris should have been in traffic when they came out of the pit stops if there were no Safety Car.Well played in the end by Sainz who gave DRS to Norris that helped himself defend against hungry Mercedes with medium tires which unfortunately Russell hit the wall by pushing way to hard to fight for that win.In the pool I am sure this is a race with a very few points compared to the last one.

Sainz was really big brain today.  Grin  Carlando did a great teamwork about keeping Mercedes drivers behind themselves. Sainz completely deserved this win as a result. Ferrari needed to make a sacrifice and they chose Leclerc for that I'm afraid. I wish Leclerc managed to finish the race on podium at least.

Mercedes rolled the dice and got medium tyres for a full push to win the race. Especially Russell was so fast but he couldn't do it and he even made a shocking mistake in the final lap. If he chilled a little more maybe he wouldn't have hit the wall and been DNF.

Good weekend for Ferrari anyway!

The funny thing is that in the pool almost all the top guys did not move positions,showing that most of us believed to much in Verstappen and Redbull.I got this race the lowest ever amount of points including EBP I only got 7 points  Grin.

Mercedes I think made an error to not let Hamilton pass Russell when Hamilton was near 1 second faster than his team mate,the end of the race would have been a much much different story then but Mercedes believed more in Russell this time,he tried and over did it by hitting the wall desperately trying to catch Norris and Sainz.
1948  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: September 17, 2023, 06:11:37 PM
Good control of the race for Sainz.
Leclerc got unlucky with the safety car otherwise it was an easy 1-2.


Next week we will have the answer, if Redbull is slow then the change made from FIA, nerfed them.

Leclerc was sacrificed to favor Sainz win and in the end Ferrari was right because they won the race as the end result.The Safety Car was a super big help for Sainz in this race as it was timed perfectly before the top guys were to enter pit stop anyway and this was a big unlucky moment for Redbull.

I agree though,Redbull looked more like a normal car during today race and next race we will have our answer,even if FIA made this change to regulations to stop Redbull unfortunately only 7 or 8 races remain which does not do any harm to Redbull campaign anyway for this season at least.
1949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 17, 2023, 04:25:58 PM
Haha, Chelsea has disappointed their fans again and continued the bad record as you said poor finishing is the main problem the expensive strikers they have don't mean anything, do you think this is Pochettino failure who was unable to implement the right strategy? Pochettino's career may be over at Chelsea by mid-season if he doesn't improve Chelsea's performance we know the Chelsea owner doesn't want to hear any excuses, he will fire anyone if they don't have a positive impact Cheesy Pochettino still has time until next January.

The Chelsea performance is well expected and there will be more of such bad awful results. The owners have invested alot; but they have invested wrongly. Buying over 30 players and trying to get results is just the wrong approach; also Pochettino is underperforming; insisting on specific players and trying to force them to form is a bad approach as well. Too many problems in chelsea attack, defense and midfield; relegation prospect?

Honestly this time it was only bad luck who stopped Chelsea as compared to Bournemouth they played much better and dominated the game however the problem is that they only got 1 point from this game and it means that with that kind of performance they can consider a two points lost game in here.

Even Arsenal in the game that is ongoing it is not doing well,hopefully the nightmare result of last year where they lost 1-0 will not repeat itself and Arsenal will win this game.I have many parlays with Arsenal,and I am only expecting them to win but since first half ended 0-0 I am not hopeful at all.
1950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise? on: September 17, 2023, 04:13:16 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

The free spins when you register and deposit which is an ongoing promotion in many casinos you are right,they don't give you usually huge wins,just a couple of them to show that the free spins are paying something.No one should expect a lot from them as I have not seen a single streamer who is streaming big wins from such spins.They are there most of the cases to attract new users as a form of increasing the user base for the casinos who implement it.

Demo is not the same as them because when playing in demo mode you can hit huge wins while from such free spins as a bonus in registering and depositing I have not seen any substantial win.
1951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: September 17, 2023, 03:11:14 PM
Different race today in F1 where Ferrari won a deserved race but greatly helped by the Safety Car perfectly timed when they were about to enter pit stops anyway,this translated to very bad luck for Redbulls who were planning on staying ahead while the Ferraris should have been in traffic when they came out of the pit stops if there were no Safety Car.Well played in the end by Sainz who gave DRS to Norris that helped himself defend against hungry Mercedes with medium tires which unfortunately Russell hit the wall by pushing way to hard to fight for that win.In the pool I am sure this is a race with a very few points compared to the last one.
1952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Socialtournaments-A way to stop gambling addiction on: September 17, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
This site is not intended to rehabilitate addicts directly. It does seem to work for gambling addicts who have independent therapy initiatives. Instead, their main goal is to get more exposure from the new machines they present. If they get satisfactory statistics on the number of players and rounds in a certain period, I think that the new machine will begin to be implemented by their partner casinos. This can attract new addicts.
This may be the solution for now,but we was not sure.How long the gambler will be satisfy with the alternative.Since they addicted to the gambling site,the gamblers easily back to the gambling.With the try,we can use for the recovery of the gamblers,but the complete recovery from the addiction or partial recovery based on the user.This can be used till the new one was created by the gamblers itself.As the doctor only can predict the medicine,the gambling addict or gambler can create the website,which entertain the gamblers as like the gambling site.
Perhaps the website is not for gamblers who are used to gambling in casinos but for people who just want to play in tournaments, especially gambling addicts who always return to the casino. But at least this site can be used as a solution for those afraid of losing a lot of money playing slot games. And they can also come back and play other slot games while trying to get into the top 10. However, it is very difficult to increase the ranking because the difference in numbers is too big for beginners. Apart from that, these slot games both require luck to win.

Yes but in here the luck does not matter that much in the sense that you don't lose anything,any money except your time which addicted people have plenty of it.Therefore in this context the Social Tournaments is a helpful website to these people despite the initial aim of that website is to promote latest Pragmatic Play games,from this slot provider.It can be used both ways though,trying your luck for free and if you win anything on top of it consider it as an extra bonus and they can pay you in cryptocurrencies too which is another benefit of that site.Personally I don't play that much there as it is difficult to win but when I don't have anymore money I always go there and hit the spin button.
1953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: September 17, 2023, 02:08:50 PM
The best thing of all this race was the Mercedes race engineer of Russell in the early stages of the race which said explicitly what happened and the radio message was "It looks like Ferrari is trying to sacrifice Leclerc" and they did so for real.They at least by doing so won the race today much different from Monza and Sainz was very smart to give DRS to Norris to protect himself in the later stages of the race from the two Mercedes cars.Mercedes on the other hand did not do what Ferrari usually does,they did not let Hamilton go through despite him being 0.8 seconds faster than Russell otherwise we would have seen an even more beautiful ending to the race.
1954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 17, 2023, 10:45:06 AM
In the French league we have started with surprise results,funny how both Lens and Paris lost their game at their home field against what I would call weaker opponents.Most likely these two teams underestimated their opponents and are now giving hope to Monaco and Marseille which play today and should definitely try to maximize out of those results and win their respective games with Marseille playing at home which I think should have an easier job than Monaco.

The Ligue 1 is becoming more and more open this actual season while several other seasons before was dominated by Paris and this is a really good thing for such league.
1955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: September 17, 2023, 10:25:12 AM
Even if gambling is legally unacceptable,there are some parts of the world that depend on gambling because of the unavailability of jobs in that country.And one thing I know about gambling is it quick source of money.Whether good or bad,there are people who cannot  do without gambling,because they are making money from it.They depend on fix matches,to earn a living.
For those people who depend on gambling,they bare in mind that one day,they will build mansions through gambling,and sometimes their believe work for them because I have seen people who win millions and get a good life ever after.They keep on pursuing their goals till they eventually win.
This reminds me of a country in Asia, namely the Philippines, by legalizing gambling and reaping huge profits from the taxes. The government there supports gambling activities. Who knows how that happened but certainly the country is taking measures that utilize the gambling sector appropriately. This also opens up new job opportunities there, but personally for me
no wonder why in general other countries still consider gambling illegal because of the risks that are very bad for society and the effects of addiction that cause financial damage.

Yes, in my country, gambling has been legalized from a very long time ago because it has primarily supported our economy to grow. There has been laws which supports its legalization, and as far as I know, people with ages of 21 and up are only allowed to engage in casinos. Just like what you've mentioned, there is of course a drawbacks from it that's why penalties has been developed. But even though we have laws, addiction and debt cannot be avoided because its still depends on the person who engage in gambling.


Still depends from the person itself, if addiction already penetrated inside you and your engagements is by far the next thing that can happen is for you to do something that might not be appropriate or unusual things that may lead you to either borrowing excessively or to the point that you may do something illegally.

Such kind of things that can be the after-effect of heavy gamings which push you to too much engagements and heavy addictions.

If we talk about those level of addictions there has been cases of suicide,people who have given their wife as a consolation prize when they have lost excessively and had nothing to pay that money that was borrowed.This fortunately are very isolated cases and rarely people do these anymore,it means people are generally more responsible nowadays and they don't do reckless things.

Still when you excessively borrow money it is a clear indication that things are not good at all for you as a person and that only should make you think that you are not doing the right thing,however there is this possibility that when you are used to something it does not impress you anymore and as such you go and keep borrowing which is a bad thing.
1956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 17, 2023, 09:45:40 AM
Yesterday all favorites won except Manchester United who once again had a lot of difficulties against Brighton and lost their game 1-3.Other than that everything went smoothly with Manchester City,Tottenham,Liverpool and Newcastle all won their games and made a lot of money to people who bet them or parlayed them together.

Now I hope Arsenal which is the main favorite to win today their game while also Chelsea is playing against a weak opponent in theory and they should win their game too.However the Premier League is usually with surprise results every week and this week so far no favorite has made an error so surprises can be expected.
1957  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ on: September 17, 2023, 09:19:15 AM
there are several matches today but I am more focused on the very meaningful match between Roma and Empoli when both teams are having a bad period in their performance and this is an opportunity for Mourinho to get 3 additional points to immediately get out of the bottom zone in this series A standings and even though both teams have had bad performances, I still have confidence that the Stadio Olimpico will provide enthusiasm and confidence for Roma to win the match as hosts.
on the one hand, in the previous match I have not seen a good contribution from Lukaku but in this match I want to see Lukaku performance to make a strong contribution to Roma victory and hopefully my expectations are right.

betting on Roma even though the underdog odds are only @1.43 looks small but is safer.

Roma has not been in a really performing mood as of lately in these games of the Serie A so far.If they cannot win even against Empoli in their home field,a team that has almost lost all of their initial games in this new season then things I can say are pretty bad for Roma so far.I can say that things will be extremely complicated for Roma as if they can't win against such team then against who will they win?This means that they will risk to fall out from Serie A although this is a very drastic prediction right now as we are only in the beginning but I am not seeing any good signal from Roma so far,they need to win this at all cost.
1958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: September 17, 2023, 08:40:00 AM
There are many things about football competition in Asia that still need better development and maybe a decade from now it won't be enough to make Asia even better in competing in the World Cup, in fact, I think Africa is still much better and has a greater chance of becoming champion. World Cup compared to Asia. More African football players play in Europe or other leagues on other continents, while there are still very few in Asia.
If Asia wants to compete better then the players must have the courage to leave their local league and experience tighter and more difficult competition like in Europe even though they only play in the second division.

However, Japan's victory over Germany is still an achievement and that's because Germany not only played badly but slightly underestimated their opponent. I saw the match and how the German defenders made movements that seemed to tease the Japanese players who they might see were shorter but one or two Japanese attacks were enough to destroy Germany at that time. Maybe that's a wrong assessment but currently Germany is not a strong team for a big competition unless there are big changes they make with their new coach later.
I would say that neither Asia nor Africa has a chance to win the world cup, considering teams from Europe and Latin America still end up being a lot better. Those nations have a football culture that dates back nearly hundred years, which means that they have a lot more chances to improve during that time.

Whereas if we are talking about Africa, that is a bit earlier than Asia, so they did their time and they are getting better, they have been getting better for a while now and I am assuming that the money football brings to them must be a good feeling. I feel like it is going to end up with Asia being the last one out there, it is going to take a while, but with more time, they will get better without a doubt.

Senegal is the team that has gone the most far in the World Cup together with Ghana I think from Africa and they have done it much differently than Asian teams like Korea in 2002 which was helped by the referees against Italy.Of course these teams from these continents need a lot more improvement in order to be able to fight against European and Latin America teams although the level from these teams has lately only been in the increase.

No one knows when a team from such continents will be able to win the World Cup but I am pretty confident that it would take at least a couple of decades,may be after 2050 we will have one such winner as before that year I doubt it very much.
1959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 16, 2023, 10:00:39 PM
Looks like Inter has truly consolidated themselves with this devastating win against arch rivals in their derby game against Milan.I think that they are the strongest contender to the title this year and that I have not seen yet from other teams such amazing performances as Inter has done in these initial games of the Serie A.They may be just initial games but as they say the sun can be spotted early in the morning which means that Inter truly is on another level this year compared to all other teams,they scored a lot of goals against Fiorentina which is not a weak team and today they scored even more against an even stronger team.I am going to check what the odd is for them to win the Serie A and if it good enough I am betting a lot of money on them to win Serie A this year.
1960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: September 16, 2023, 09:36:53 PM
As I was saying some days ago FIA can change the rules whenever they want.
This weekend they changed a rule for the control of the deflection of the wings, RBR needed to change them and we got bad results.

The next GP we will know if they removed the dominance of the RBR or if it was just a case.


And yes it was a grey area used mostly by RBR.

Of course FIA does not like such huge dominance as most people will stop watching races when they know that only one team is winning all the races and this translates to losing a lot of money for FIA and also a lot of prestige as one of the most prestigious sports in the world.I don't think though that with a single move FIA to be smart enough to stop Redbull even if the strength of Redbull came from such only one point in this grey area,I think that Redbull is strong overall and most likely they will adjust to the new regulations of the FIA.For tomorrow though Max is not hopeful at all for a good race.
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