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2181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do star players affect the odds of a match bet? on: August 23, 2023, 06:19:51 PM
I would like to take into consideration four levels of contribution in a match by a star player, and hope to see from everyone's opinion how their contribution would go to affect the outcome, odds of a game and the bet after the game is concluded. These four levels include:
*playing part of a match,
*playing a full match,
*being substituted out and
*being substituted in.

No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.

My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?


I would say absolutely and Messi and Ronaldo are the most crystal clear example of such thing.Of course there are other star players who can make a difference and these maybe not so well known but yet still super star for the teams where they play.I will make an example of many many years ago of Wagner Love a Brazilian attacker of CSKA Moscow who used to score goals even against strong teams in Champions League and back at that time the title in Russia was not something disputable,CSKA used to win it almost every year at the time of this player,so yes they definitely impact the odds.
2182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Personal favorite on: August 23, 2023, 02:32:20 PM
Any casino that has not a big ANN thread here in the forum full of positive reviews and feedback I would be dumb enough to go and join them.Chances are high to risk my money on such casino as if something bad were to happen at such place I would have nowhere to post my complains,my money would be gone and I would be left wondering.That is why to avoid such scenarios I like playing in really well established casinos here in the forum as I know that if anything happens it will be solved in an instant.
2183  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team on: August 23, 2023, 10:44:28 AM
This time Stake did it nicely,I am a Bronze VIP and they had a second monthly bonus and not those stupid reloads with very little money but a decent 2nd monthly which if played with care,meaning if played in games where we have control and not games of luck like slot machines,if we play in sport betting especially in these days where European games are there we can grow that balance quite nicely and then do whatever we see fit  Grin.
2184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: August 23, 2023, 10:24:00 AM
Chelsea and Liverpool both lost on this transfer if you ask me. Liverpool needed the player but lost him and in process managed to remove a hefty amount from Chelsea pocket. I know you don't want to hear it but Chelsea transfer policy is criminal, you guys spent so much on frankly mostly mediocre players. I said the same in that transfer window when Boehly decided to buy everything and I will say it again now. Only difference is you have better coach now so maybe he will manage to salvage something.

Liverpool had the best transfer only a few seasons ago but I believe this time they were surprised of losing almost all midfield, and then no choice but pay high fees.

Caicedo seems to be a trick from Liverpool, they knew Chelsea wanted him so they left the bid lol I doubt they ever pay that much for 2nd rate urgent need.

Pochettino will be a difference maker though, if Boehly gives him time. I'm afraid time is not something Chelsea likes to give.

If Chelsea does not give time to Pochettino they know very well what will happen next,to all the guys,the coaches that they did not give time,as soon as they started to change coaches they started losing games and going from bad to worse so most likely Chelsea management has learned from their mistakes as if they keep repeating them then Chelsea will keep going down and more down.

For me Pochettino is the right guy to lead Chelsea to come out from these bad results and with West Ham was only bad,very bad luck.
2185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: August 23, 2023, 10:09:11 AM
Daniel Peretz is officially about to sign for Bayern Munich. He is a young goalkeeper playing for Maccabi Tel Aviv. He has been one of the players who people started to talk about recently. He is said to be a promising goalkeeper. He is only 23 years old so he is open to develop his skills much more in years.

If he really has that much potential as it is said then this can be considered a great transfer for Bayern Munich. However the question is: Will he be able to satisfy the expectations in this season? Because Bayern Munich have lost Sommer so they need a reliable goalkeeper.

Any goalkeeper and not only a young promising one would consider moving to Bayern Munchen as an upgrade to their career.Going from Maccabi Tel Aviv which plays in a much lower quality league than Bundesliga to Bayern Munchen if he signs with the new team it means that he has made a huge step forward for his career.I think that he can be able to satisfy the expectations of the team as long as he is given enough time to get used to the new team,harmonize himself with the team,then with a team like Bayern any goalkeeper will have it easier to get to show his skills.
2186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos Should Also Be Prepared For Health Emergencies on: August 23, 2023, 07:52:41 AM
I think the casinos are already equipped for emergencies but they cannot do anything if somebody has an cardiac arrest and God forbid dies there,there is nothing the casino can do in such scenario.Of course I agree that more should be done in order to achieve better response to emergencies like having a doctor there for any case,like a cardiac arrest who is not fatal but leaves the person stunned and the doctor should intervene,it is not enough to have a first aid kit in such scenario.
2187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 22, 2023, 07:56:24 PM
Tonight three great play off games before starting the group stage.I think that FC Kopenhagen is really back on track and ready to achieve a comeback in the group stages after missing them from some years now,their opponent Rakow from Poland should be very happy for Europa League group stages as they are losing 0-1 at home so far in the first half.

In the other games the so called favorites are losing so far away from home with a minimal result,as Antwerp is winning at home against AEK Athens and Glasgow Rangers is winning with the same result at home against PSV Eindhoven.

2188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: August 22, 2023, 07:27:09 PM
I see Harry Kane's harmony with his teammates and I feel like he will adapt to the team quickly. For Harry Kane, the Bundesliga may not be a complete measure of performance. I wonder what he can do at UCL. I would love to watch him perform at the top level at UCL. I hope he doesn't get injured like KDB and stay away for a long time.
It can be seen that during his first training with Bayern Munich he really enjoyed it and even now he is certainly closer to establishing chemistry with the other players. The UCL competition maybe for Harry Kane is an opportunity to show he is in the right team and he is definitely aiming for more when he is with Bayern Munich. Injury might be very fatal if it happened in his first season defending Bayern Munich and I also hope that Harry Kane will not be injured this season because the current competition, either the Bundesliga or UCL, is very important to pump up his career with Bayern Munich.

Harry Kane needed without a doubt a new team for him,I mean a new stronger team than Tottenham and Bayern Munchen surely is much stronger and they usually go further in the Champions League.I think Kane is a great addition to Bayern line up and we will see during the course of time that it was the right choice both for Bayern Munchen and both for Kane,they will mutually benefit from each other.It is also time Kane enjoys a title win and with Bayern this is much closer than it was the Premier League with Tottenham as Kane is a great player so it was as I said the right choice.
2189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 22, 2023, 08:06:51 AM
Finally Arteta got a win (on Monday's fixture) even with the red card they still didn't let Crystal Palace get an equalizer, Arsenal need to learn from Palace on how they played by pushing to get goals when they had the advantage (that's when the red card was issued to Tomiyasu), if it was Arsenal that had that advantage they won't have played out their best to get a goal.
The was they played was really unimpressive (before the red card they played poorly, imagine in the first half just 1 shot on target) and Martinelli was hanging on the ball know quite alright that he needs to drop the ball as fast as possible and move on, just like Rice always did when needed, I feel Martinelli is becoming stingy by the moment which will hurt the Arsenal team some day if he continues like that, I prefer Trossard to Martinelli at the moment.

For me Martinelli is one of the pillars in attack for Arsenal and I would prefer him to any other player in the Arsenal team in attack.It can happen that sometimes a certain player,even a great one to have a bad day but that does not mean that he is not fit to play for Arsenal during the long term.I think Arsenal has grown a lot as a team and right now the only thing they need are the three points in every game,it is not important how they get them as long as they continue to get them.Arsenal had not played against strong teams yet while City has done so against Newcastle so the panorama is not clear on how strong Arsenal are,anyway it is a good thing that they keep winning even against small teams as it was these teams who made them lose the title last season.
2190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A weird belief among some gamblers. on: August 21, 2023, 02:52:55 PM
Gambling becomes addictive when its use becomes compulsive and out of control, because the brain system has been exposed to stimulating gambling. in my neighborhood a lot of people are already addicted to gambling, which has led to the superstition of placing high hopes on slots or gambling. and it is very difficult to awaken people who are addicted to gambling to the point that they have lost great wealth to the point where they have nothing. although I am a gambler not as bad as things that are self-defeating

Even very serious people are subject to superstition. These are not necessarily gamblers. For some reason, we all want to believe in higher forces that control everything around us, and we are only insignificant and small. That's why we enter into all sorts of rituals, as the author of the topic described, for example. There are many Serbian professions where people are also subject to superstitions, for example, my friend the train driver does not play at the casino, but he is very superstitious and he has certain rituals. I think every person will never refuse to believe that he can influence his fate. That's why when the dice roll on the chair, even atheists will pray.

You reminded me a great joke which is from a country near Serbia in the Balkans,in there they say when the plane is crashing down even atheists will become avid believers and that shows how small we are compared to the world we live in.In this context everyone has their own superstitions but in gambling and among gamblers we will see a lot of them,we even see in F1 the drivers kissing their car for good luck so all sort of superstitions in all kind of different people.I think this is not beneficial though,we should know that we control our fate when we don't roll the dice or go to the casino as this way we avoid losing money as a sure thing compared to rituals of superstition that supposedly can help us win money.
2191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 21, 2023, 02:36:01 PM
Aston Villa made up for their 5-1 defeat in the first week with a 4-0 win over Everton this week. It is hard to say that it was a very challenging match for Aston Villa, who turned the match in their favor with the superiority they established in the first half.
Chelsea, on the other hand, despite spending a lot of money every season, are struggling to achieve success. Chelsea, who played dominant football from the beginning to the end of the match, struggled to find goals. A missed penalty late in the first half was perhaps the demoralizing point. Chelsea, whose opponent was reduced to 10 men in the 67th minute, struggled to beat their opponent and I honestly didn't expect this.

From the first two games of Everton which I only have seen the highlights which for me are enough to say that only God can save Everton from relegation during this season.They have not been able to score a goal against one average team and one below average team level of the Premier League so this is a big red flag for Everton which should start right away thinking how to come out of this abyss.There are still some days before the transfer market closes and they need to enter the market and sign a couple of players otherwise they will definitely be relegated this season.
2192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 21, 2023, 02:17:59 PM
Juventus managed to start the new season with a promising victory over Udinese, Juventus performance in this match deserved praise from fans or other parties who placed bets on Juventus victory. It was not easy to score three goals against Udinese at once, but the Juventus players were able to do so in the first half. After entering the second half, Juventus were more careful and seemed to play it safe to secure victory. The performance shown by the Juventus players indicates that they are ready to compete for the Scudetto this season.

Chiesa's quick goal seemed to make Udinese a little surprised, resulting in a weakened mentality. But indeed I agree with you Juventus have had a good start in the game and this new season. Udinese actually played quite well and bravely for the second half. Several times chances were in danger of Juventus, although they could not make a goal. This is one of the proofs if Chiesa's quick goal destroys the mentality of Udinese players. There is still a long season and a busy schedule. Let's see later until the end of the season.

That is a problem for not big teams like Udinese when they go down against a strong team like Juventus.Juventus had always bad luck when encountering Udinese as many encounters even when Juventus dominated the Serie A for many years against Udinese ended in a draw.

This time though not only Juventus but almost all other strong teams of Serie A have won their games except Lazio but Lazio had an insane amount of bad luck as I have seen the game which they dominated until the 85 minute where the result until then should have been somewhat 0-5 yet they conceded two goals from two hits that were not expecting much from the way the players shoot the ball.
2193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 21, 2023, 01:49:20 PM
Torino Vs Cagliari, this match starts today we will pick Torino as the stronger team in the match. Although it is difficult to say which team will win today's match, but as a strong team Torino can definitely win if they can perform well. Although today's match is at Torino's home ground so they have the best chance of going down, each team is strong in their own right and plays well enough to win the match. Torino fans to win more, Torino @1.67 and draw @3.75 and Cagliari @5.25 according to match Odds on various gambling platforms today. So today's match is most likely to be won by Torino and if Cagliari can perform well then maybe the match can be a draw.

Honestly that is quite a very low odd for Torino as Torino is not one of the stronger teams of Serie A to have these kind of odds especially considering that this is the first game of the season of the Serie A so anything can happen.We had Roma yesterday at 1.54 to win against Salernitana and honestly they should have won if it were not for the world class goals of Candreva and I suggest anyone to go see them on youtube match highlights,spectacular goals for real which left Roma with a draw and as such they did not win with that 1.54 odd.I am not saying Torino will not win but most probably it won't be easy at all.
2194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga on: August 21, 2023, 01:20:16 PM
Prior to the start of new season I don't think that anyone expected this, even the most die hard hajduk fans: Hajduk Split at the top of the table with 8 points ahead of Dinamo Zagreb (they have one game less though) with latter only getting 4 points from 3 games.

Given the circumstances in Dinamo (Sutalo just left, Livakovic just a matter of day and possibly Ivanusec and Petkovic, Biscan being incompetent) I think that its now or never for Hajduk to finally win the championship after 18-19 years of waiting.

/snip

Oh man, I forgot all about this thread. Yes, I agree that this is the now or never year for Hajduk to become the champion. But after seeing them play against PAOK, I don't think they have what it takes to win. Rijeka also have solid chance to win the title again, not just Hajduk. Dinamo changed a lot in the last year - new coach, new management... We will see how long the new management will have patience with Biscan. If they lose against Sparta Prague, I think they will look for another coach.

Loads of changes,not good changes at Dinamo I assume after they were eliminated from the Champions League fight for the group stages where most of the time we are used to see them,they should be happy with Europa League now which is not that bad but surely not their main objective.What makes it painful is that they were leading 0-2 and they lost it all in the additional minutes added in the end of the second half.

This makes them fight for the Croatian title a priority now and despite other teams having chances I think they will be the Champions also this year.
2195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: August 21, 2023, 12:56:17 PM
~snip~
Isn't that what you mean it is a kind of belief that is relied on too much because there are quite a few failures when doing some things or steps that are not quite right, plus the belief that every success there are other factors that support it to cause a lack of confidence in one's own abilities when acting.
Human thinking is indeed like that and almost all the workings of the brain must be headed in the same direction when they get a barrage of failures.
Anyone will never tell more about their failure experience to others because there is a fear of being belittled or insulted because the failures they experience always happen, but on the other hand, every success must be told to anyone so that everyone hears and knows it.

It is true that success has many fathers and failure is an orphan.
From here we should be able to learn a little to understand all of that so that we don't give priority to thoughts that are not clear enough.

Yeah, the key to success really is to fail all the time in private, in the back-end so to speak.

All the training, testing, effort, etc, is done away from people, just privately.

Then, when you succeed after years of hard work, you will be seen as an overnight success  Grin

Yeah like those slot streamers,they keep recording for hours,days,weeks and months before reaching that max win and they cut the video and upload to streaming service only the win part of their session,they are also seen as super gamblers yet they are only being sponsored a certain amount to promote the casino they will throw you a link to join.

Everyone loses at slots because they are programmed like that,the only good thing is to have a huge max win in order to recover some of the loses.
2196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I can’t cope on my own. What do you think I should do? on: August 21, 2023, 12:32:09 PM
I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money. I had knowledge about football and basketball games and they were my most picked games and even so I kept losing all my bets and even when i try to play safe i still end up losing and whenever i ask my friends for games we still end up losing the bet then i got tired and in the end i gave up and tried to quit gambling and I left it for some months. During this period my friends made a lot of money gambling and i was envious of them but it didn’t made me change my mind to start gambling over again.

Some months later i came across a telegram channel and i joined, it was a gambling channel that posted free sports bets for its users and there is also a VIP section where users subscribe for some sure games. I am well aware of all these techniques used by scammers so I decided to observe the channel and follow up games posted and I discovered he won most of the games and had about 80% victory rate. Then after some time I decided to try my luck again so I played one of his games and i won i was so happy and it was as though the curse placed on me has been lifted and I tried some more games and i won again and again and since the beginning of the new season i only lost twice and i am now proud of my gambling achievements.

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

 What do you all think i should do?

I don't think any sport bettor should be relying on those so called VIP channels to make wins in sport betting.I think people nowadays have enough resources in the internet that they only need time to calmly analyze any event before betting on.You have from news sites,prediction sites,sites that covers everything is going on with a certain team that for me only people who do not believe in themselves find these telegram VIP channels as an alternative to keep winning in sport bets.

I don't think any VIP telegram channel can offer guaranteed profit in sport betting no matter how good they are so better forget about them.If you are obsessed at trying then try for one month but as I said I highly discourage such event.
2197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I will pass KYC later is a bad idea on: August 21, 2023, 12:08:30 PM
I agree and that is an advice for people who gamble with big amounts but not only,it is even for people who gamble with low amounts who suddenly get lucky and hit the max win payout from a huge multiplier in some different game.Therefore I think it is paramount for people to first make a search for the casino where they want to play and see if they are legit and trustworthy and then go ahead and verify themselves this way they will avoid problems.

I personally am level 2 verified from 4 levels that Stake casino has and for me this is enough as I doubt I will ever win more than the limit that this verification lets you withdraw  Grin.
2198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos games are not made by the casino teams but... on: August 21, 2023, 11:06:11 AM
I always consider games from one casino to be easily manipulated if the casino is the one that builds the game, when it comes to reputable online casinos, they always offer favourite games from trusty developers, this mean they don't build those games themselves.

The question I have in mind is, aren't the developers the ones that should be responsible for any manipulation in the games or it's still possible for the casino team and members to manipulate the game engines?

Some people still think that games on online casinos are from the casino teams themselves but those games are from software providers, is this valid or not.

For me I trust that the providers use their own servers and they link them to the casino where they set the house edge from what the casino asks them to be.Some of these providers offers adjustable RTP meaning is not a fixed house edge but a volatile one and it depends then from the casino which RTP they throw in in their site.This is what the casino can manipulate and for this we have no control over,we only play in trusted and reputable casinos who most likely they don't need to change the RTP as they are huge and they make profit also with lower RTP-s.
2199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 21, 2023, 10:45:29 AM
So far Chelsea look stronger than West Ham, but as I expected both teams scored and so far the score is tied... West Ham are also playing well and managed to score first... I don't know who will be the winner here, but I don't rule out a draw...
Unfortunately, Chelsea conceded another goal from West Ham, I think it will be difficult for Chelsea to win and you should not rule out a draw, maybe if they are behind by one goal Chelsea can still reply.

In attack and other statistics Chelsea are stronger but they are a bit of a defense, maybe this will be Chelsea's next defeat?

Of course there is still a long time that can change this game.

I don't understand why Chelsea played so badly in the match against West Ham United this season, even though I thought Chelsea would have won but instead, conceded a goal in the 7th minute with a strike from Nayef Aguerd and was rewarded with a Blues shot in the 7th minute . 28th, even though the results were a draw then Chelsea's goal conceded 1 more with a very beautiful kick from michail antoni and west ham united ahead of chelsea with a score of 2-1 in my opinion this time Chelsea's performance has decreased and is not good this season and many mistakes have been shown from Chelsea FC was a heavy blow from Chelsea because they lost against west ham united.

That happens rarely and this was the situation in the yesterday game where Chelsea lost.This rare situation is when you play in a very chaotic way and you try to win at all cost because you think now it is going to be easy as West Ham was playing with 10 players and as such Chelsea wanted to take profit from the situation by leaving a lot of spaces behind.These spaces were used very well from West Ham who scored goals with penalties because Chelsea defenders were caught in full surprise.I don't think Chelsea will play this bad in any other game that will come.
2200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 21, 2023, 10:25:58 AM
Barcelona had the first win of the season yesterday night and this time in front of their legendary home crowd they did not make anymore mistakes.Cadiz is not a strong team but it is exactly with these teams that sometimes things go wrong and if Barcelona had made 2 consecutive errors they would have put at great risk their La Liga fight for the title.

It may look like Real Madrid is doing better but I think Real Madrid needs still some new players as with the actual ones I find hard for them to be competing to win the title against Barcelona.
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