The fact is that god is not a scientific theory, hypothesis or anything, it's just religion. It's by definition something that you have to believe in based on faith, not evidence, which is what everyone does. Faith is not a good path to the truth, that's also a fact.
In my opinion, the experiences with God are not necessarily based on faith or belief. Some people have experienced true, personal, life changing miracles that prove to them God is real. To them, they don't need to believe in God, they know God exists. ''have experienced true, personal, life changing miracles that prove to them God is real.'' This is by definition faith. It's called delusion. How do they know it's true? They don't, there is no evidence, therefore it's faith. When you get right into the reason why some medicine seems to heal people, you have the same thing. Here's what happens. We get some medical testing that shows biochemically in the lab that a particular medicine works. Then in live testing, some people seem to be healed by the medicine in question. Some are not. The thing we don't understand enough, is the working of the psyche, to be able to say for a fact that it was the medicine that healed them. Well, if it wasn't the medicine, then what was it? Maybe 90% of the healings are placebo effect... faith (even in animals). Maybe, when it comes right down to it, close to 100% are placebo-like effect. Maybe being healed by medicine has to do with the treated person subconsciously recognizing, through his nervous system, that there is some biochemical activity going on from the medicine. And then he heals himself by what he feels through his nervous system. The medicine action doesn't really have anything to do with the actual healing in a biochemical way. Some studies suggest that placebo effect heals in as many as 30+% or the cases. We simply don't know enough about the psyche of people in general to know if it is more or not. And the medical doesn't want to do these kinds of studies in a big way. Do enough of them to make it look like we are studying placebo effect. But don't do enough to take business away from Big Pharma.  No. Placebo effect exists, that's true, however you will not be ''cured'' by placebo effect alone. No one has been ever ''cured'' from cancer due to placebo. It's true that when it comes to pain relief treatments, the placebo effect can play a big role and a lot of people can feel better even though they are getting worse. This is because the placebo effect is a psychological effect not physiological. The brain is the responsible of pain and other symptoms, pain is literally a fabrication of your brain and the placebo effect can stop it, however that's where it ends, it does not heal you from deadly diseases. |
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"but test everything; hold fast what is good." -- 1 Thessalonians 5:21
Hang onto Jesus salvation. Stop reviling other people by saying things like, "Go hang yourself." Saint Paul says, 1 Corinthians 4:12b,13: When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it; when we are slandered, we answer kindly. We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world—right up to this moment. If you are so insincere about the way you talk to other people, then you are insincere about the Bible, and insincere about flat earth. P.S. Now, go back through all your posts and delete the nasty talk that you use against people. Yes, slap him badecker, show him the true power of god. He is going to hell, isn't he? |
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Got anymore of that great scientific evidence you moron?
Post your best proof.
Yes, we have a 24/7 livestream of earth from space dipshit. Keywords here are "scientific evidence" & "proof". YouTube videos streamed from a movie studio set with actors hanging from wires infront of a green screen and CGI objects, only proves you're either a liar complicit with this fraud or a gullible idiot. The only thing dipped into shit is your head! Keywords here are scientific evidence and proof, claiming they are actors and CGI doesn't make it so. |
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Is there a positive correlation between a belief in God and Flat Earth? Logically speaking, it would seem strange for an atheist to believe in Flat Earth, for atheists tend to put their complete trust in conventional science.
You mean, in real science? Logically speaking it's strange for anyone to ever believe the earth is flat. |
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The fact is that god is not a scientific theory, hypothesis or anything, it's just religion. It's by definition something that you have to believe in based on faith, not evidence, which is what everyone does. Faith is not a good path to the truth, that's also a fact.
In my opinion, the experiences with God are not necessarily based on faith or belief. Some people have experienced true, personal, life changing miracles that prove to them God is real. To them, they don't need to believe in God, they know God exists. ''have experienced true, personal, life changing miracles that prove to them God is real.'' This is by definition faith. It's called delusion. How do they know it's true? They don't, there is no evidence, therefore it's faith. |
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Not sure the Pope is the best source to be citing for moral clarity. He is not widly regarding outside of Catholic circles and even withing Catholicism his standing is rapidly diminishing for various reasons. Pope Francis’ approval rating plummets among Catholics https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-francis-approval-rating-plummets-among-american-catholics-in-responsemichaelkelly8798 raises a fair point about scientific theories. Many people grab onto whatever scientific theory is currently in vogue and proclaim it as absolute truth. Often this is a way for the slower minded to avoid thinking about a topic. They just want to be told the answer. People who just want to be told the answer often get upset and angry when an answer they have already accepted is questioned. Uncorrupted science is a search for truth. Plausible ideas and concepts that are not incompatible with current observations are scientific theories. Proven reproducible facts are scientific laws. Theories are often wrong no matter how many scientists ascribe to them. The trashcan of history is full of discarded theories that were once widely embraced by scientists. The best modern example I can think of is the current scare mongering over man made global warming. The media, the majority of climate scientists, and indeed even the Pope are on record proclaiming that we are cooking the planet and to question this narrative is to be anti-science and worthy of public shamming. The reality however is that there are very compelling reasons to doubt this uniform presentation of doom. It just takes a genuine scientist and a superior idea to do so. Professor Valentina Zharkova is a tenured professor Mathematician and Astrophysicist. Her model of solar cycles is entirely reproducible, and accurately accounts for prior global temperature variations with a greater then 90% accuracy. It also almost entirely repudiates the current global warming narrative so it is ignored. Professor Valentina Zharkova: The Solar Magnet Field and the Terrestrial Climatehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M_yqIj38UmY&feature=youtu.beHow many people will take the 90 minutes to watch Professor Zharkova's presentation? Very few most will prefer to just be told the answer by the media the Pope or whoever else is whispering in their ear. Truth is like that. Often hidden away in the background present but not demanding or forceful. It patiently waits for people to get tired of their current falsehood and approach it when they are ready. Scientific theories are the best explanation for a specific thing though. Also global warming is not a scientific theory. The fact is that god is not a scientific theory, hypothesis or anything, it's just religion. It's by definition something that you have to believe in based on faith, not evidence, which is what everyone does. Faith is not a good path to the truth, that's also a fact. |
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If someone wants Vod personal information(address, phone, family, etc) send me a pm
Why, so they can harass him for believing the earth is round? Lol. You flat tards are more interested in arguing than understanding anything. You have no evidence the earth is flat, just a severe lack of understanding of how the world around you actually works. That's not the basis of any belief except religious dogma. Which goes to explain how so many of you are religious. Says the dip shit who sends in a fish eye lens video as his big scientific proof. Your video displayed curvature at 10 feet up you putz. You are a complete tit and got shredded up and exposed as the lying sack of shit you are. Got anymore of that great scientific evidence you moron? Post your best proof. Yes, we have a 24/7 livestream of earth from space dipshit. |
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?? Too many words? The definition of a scientific theory is clear and has been clear all along, the fact that you can't even admit that you were deeply wrong on this clearly shows your bias and lack of critical thinking. You are a disgusting human being, get out of my face, keep living your ignorant life and believing random youtube videos like a 5 year old. Don't bother responding, you are ignored forever. You are just running away cause you have no arguments against his challenge. Coward. What's the challenge? He believes a video of a kid resurrecting, you know that right? He is delusional. This thread is filled with evidence about evolution, filled. |
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?? Too many words? The definition of a scientific theory is clear and has been clear all along, the fact that you can't even admit that you were deeply wrong on this clearly shows your bias and lack of critical thinking. You are a disgusting human being, get out of my face, keep living your ignorant life and believing random youtube videos like a 5 year old. Don't bother responding, you are ignored forever. |
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Algo mas, puta?
Not sure highlighting your ability to use curse words and vulgar language in spanish highlights intellectual superiority to the degree you were going for here af-newbie. Solo trata de impresionar, pero no sabe que a quien trata de impresionar habla Spanish perfectamente, y que entiende mucho de lenguas pues lleva mucho tiempo estudiando idiomas, solo que no soy alguien conflictivo pues se que ser grosero es el ultimo recurso del incompetente. Que? Eres un idiota, ese fue mi punto. Tus videos fueron para ninos. Somos adultos aqui, no? No le gusta, vaya a otra parte. Once again showing your last resort? Listen, there is nothing to show. You showed us everything there is to see. Some stupid, half-ass videos for kids. How stupid can you be? What is next? You are going to dig up some videos of possession and exorcism? People can speak languages, so what? That girl needed a translator and spoke some phrases she learned in English? C'mon, give me a break. I told you what happens when a person dies. There is no coming back. Full stop. Put him on ignore like I did, there is no point in discussing with this guy, at least badecker attempts to use science, this guy on the other hand is a complete moron, perhaps he is a 14 year old kid. Badecker then wasted his time using science with you guys, the only science you understand is Darwin's story, that's your religion even though you THINK you have no religion, you are putting all of your faith in it with all your heart without a single proof. God have mercy on you and forgive you for all the words you've used against Him and for all the people that you've mislead thanks to your (unfounded) arguments. It better be "no coming back." like you say. You can ignore me, I don't think you can ignore Him though. Which God are you babbling about? Never mind, just ask him to post here, otherwise, I recommend you check it out, it could be a tumor. Your imaginary friend does not scare me, because I know he/she/it does not exist. You too should not be afraid of that boogeyman your parents told you about when you were young. Ask him to post here, I dare you. Guess what, I have been asking morons like you to ask their imaginary friend(s) to post on this and other forums with the same result. No God posted anywhere since the Internet has been invented (by people). Where is the youtube video posted by God? There are billions of videos on youtube and not ONE is from God.Didn't they teach him in the Bronze Age school how to use computers? You guys are hilarious. Stop quoting him man, I don't want to read his stupid shit, ''you are putting all of your faith in it with all your heart without a single proof'' Without a single proof says the man who believes god and resurrection is real because there is a video on youtube, this is definitely another level of stupidity. Perhaps even bigger than Notbatman. Yeah bro, no proof, 0 proof and evidence for evolution, you got us... Since you both are such smart guys, since you are the science guys who don't have any faith I got something for you, well not for you only but for all atheist viewing this comment (since you two are known for not been able to reason). Do not coward away from my proposition, I dare any of you to prove evolution, not 2 proofs, one would be enough. Just keep in mind the definition of the scientific method first before you quote the fosils and the random bones found "a method of investigation in which a problem is first identified and OBSERVATIONS, EXPERIMENTS, or other relevant data are then used to construct or TEST hypotheses that PURPORT to solve it." 2nd, then tell me if you are the guys that only believe in something when you have the evidence, why is evolution still just a theory if it was tested and proved true it should be a "LAW" and then tell me why you believe in it. Now you can do your search, do your BEST to reason and say something that sounds smart at least to prove your point.   Did I say that people with 0 scientific knowledge should refrain from debating about science? ''2nd, then tell me if you are the guys that only believe in something when you have the evidence, why is evolution still just a theory if it was tested and proved true it should be a "LAW" ''In general, a scientific law is the description of an observed phenomenon. It doesn't explain why the phenomenon exists or what causes it. The explanation of a phenomenon is called a scientific theory. It is a misconception that theories turn into laws with enough research.'' https://www.livescience.com/21457-what-is-a-law-in-science-definition-of-scientific-law.htmlhttps://chem.libretexts.org/?title=Under_Construction/Textmaps_and_Wikitexts/Introductory_Chemistry/CK-12_Chemistry_(Version_I)/Chapter_1:_Introduction_to_Chemistry_%26_the_Nature_of_Science/1.2:_Hypothesis,_Law,_and_TheoryNow please, never post here again. You are embarrassing yourself. |
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nutildah You found the curve! Look at that curve while the camera is still on the ground! https://youtu.be/c1zF6rXLjxc#You just got nailed for being a dishonest little fuck and still can't admit to the fact you attempted to deceive us with your pathetic attempt. Just another insult to the guy that schooled you. Funny as hell you actually think you have this immense knowledge of a globular earth and then pass off an obvious sham as your proof. Nice one. Keep up the great work. What's the point of arguing on one specific weather balloon and fisheye lens? Do you know there are livestreams of earth from space? You people are amazing. |
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Algo mas, puta?
Not sure highlighting your ability to use curse words and vulgar language in spanish highlights intellectual superiority to the degree you were going for here af-newbie. Solo trata de impresionar, pero no sabe que a quien trata de impresionar habla Spanish perfectamente, y que entiende mucho de lenguas pues lleva mucho tiempo estudiando idiomas, solo que no soy alguien conflictivo pues se que ser grosero es el ultimo recurso del incompetente. Que? Eres un idiota, ese fue mi punto. Tus videos fueron para ninos. Somos adultos aqui, no? No le gusta, vaya a otra parte. Once again showing your last resort? Listen, there is nothing to show. You showed us everything there is to see. Some stupid, half-ass videos for kids. How stupid can you be? What is next? You are going to dig up some videos of possession and exorcism? People can speak languages, so what? That girl needed a translator and spoke some phrases she learned in English? C'mon, give me a break. I told you what happens when a person dies. There is no coming back. Full stop. Put him on ignore like I did, there is no point in discussing with this guy, at least badecker attempts to use science, this guy on the other hand is a complete moron, perhaps he is a 14 year old kid. Badecker then wasted his time using science with you guys, the only science you understand is Darwin's story, that's your religion even though you THINK you have no religion, you are putting all of your faith in it with all your heart without a single proof. God have mercy on you and forgive you for all the words you've used against Him and for all the people that you've mislead thanks to your (unfounded) arguments. It better be "no coming back." like you say. You can ignore me, I don't think you can ignore Him though. Which God are you babbling about? Never mind, just ask him to post here, otherwise, I recommend you check it out, it could be a tumor. Your imaginary friend does not scare me, because I know he/she/it does not exist. You too should not be afraid of that boogeyman your parents told you about when you were young. Ask him to post here, I dare you. Guess what, I have been asking morons like you to ask their imaginary friend(s) to post on this and other forums with the same result. No God posted anywhere since the Internet has been invented (by people). Where is the youtube video posted by God? There are billions of videos on youtube and not ONE is from God.Didn't they teach him in the Bronze Age school how to use computers? You guys are hilarious. Stop quoting him man, I don't want to read his stupid shit, ''you are putting all of your faith in it with all your heart without a single proof'' Without a single proof says the man who believes god and resurrection is real because there is a video on youtube, this is definitely another level of stupidity. Perhaps even bigger than Notbatman. Yeah bro, no proof, 0 proof and evidence for evolution, you got us... |
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^^^ Thanks for the gaslighting comments and fisheye lens image. Guess who the stupid asshole is?
Funny how the fisheye lens is normal on the ground, and only turns into fisheye at altitude, isn't it? Your fantasy world has a lot of magic and hate in it. You can't even explain shooting stars.  I just posted an image and a link to the video showing the "curve" a few feet off the ground. How fucking stupid are you? Here's the post again you sack of shit: ...  As a matter of fact, MOST high-altitude balloon pictures have a rounded earth in them. But let me guess, yours is true and all the others are fake and doctored, right? Your lunacy is entertaining, but goddamn you are one stupid asshole of a man.  Notice the curvature a few feet off the ground, it's called a fisheye lens you double digit retard. Notice the rope? Go hang yourself with it!
^^^ Thanks for the gaslighting comments and fisheye lens image. Guess who the stupid asshole is?
So all the high-altitude balloon images that show a curved earth have a "fisheye" lens image, and somehow magically the one you point to doesn't? You're truly insane. You're probably the kind of guy who looks into a pair of binoculars the wrong way and wonders why everything is so tiny. It's a retarded argument made by retards. There are pictures of the whole earth from space, of course in that case they are forced to say it's fake, it's invented excuse after invented excuse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvMV-A3nEdQIs the dome rotating around us? LUL. I've never claimed the dome is rotating, in fact I'm sure I've had multiple arguments with you over the stars being projections of off the domes mirrored surface. Go blow you your disingenuous stawman arguments out your asshole, then go curl up in a gas oven! Yes, projections that somehow are made in such a way that it looks they are rotating? You are an idiot lmao. |
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Do any of the idiots here realize that even if the earth was flat the horizon would never look like a flat or straight line from that height? Unless you think the earth is a square. |
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It enters the frame at 20:58 and leave as 21:05 - So a shard of ice falls off a moving rocket.. then takes 7 seconds to "float" away in earth's environment.
You are right, it's obviously aliens. You got them good bro! PD: someone who doesn't have the basic understanding of why you dont feel earth's movement, should not be allowed to discuss anything related to science, just saying. I understand the "socially accepted" understanding of why we don't feel the earth moving my point was instead of just "trusting" what your told I was going off what my brain and bodily senses tell me that indeed we do stand on a flat plane that is rotating. And I gave you simple examples like a car moving at constant speed, are you ok? |
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It enters the frame at 20:58 and leave as 21:05 - So a shard of ice falls off a moving rocket.. then takes 7 seconds to "float" away in earth's environment.
You are right, it's obviously aliens. You got them good bro! PD: someone who doesn't have the basic understanding of why you dont feel earth's movement, should not be allowed to discuss anything related to science, just saying. |
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No need for name calling now..
PS watch the video... Never seen "condensation" float like that....then be "blasted" away....
You must be an expert in condensation floating away from rockets. How did you get that degree? |
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Three observations. - PS I am neither for or against flat earth.. 1. If you had never seen a globe or any nasa footage growing up and you trusted your brain and senses do you think it's plausable that we are spinning at over 1000MPH flying thru space on a spinning ball of water? without so much as a single feeling of "movement" Every sence in my body tells me we stand on a "slowly" rotating platform. Not a giant ball spinning at 10000MPH. 2. Have you ever seen 360 Degree footage from space? 3. Have any of you ever been to space? anyone see the latest SpaceX launch? Saw something in the footage that was a little strange. On booster return there is a small "item" that floats very slowly past the camera (now think about it) Slowly floats past the camera. then is blasted away by the "jet" Now don't forget this is something that supposedly falling out the sky at terminal velocity.... Sit back and enjoy CGI at it's best guys.. https://youtu.be/Esh1jHT9oTA?t=1256Watch the LEFT screen... what is that strange circle thing "floating" SLOWLY away from the "supposed" booster.  Anyone know what that little thing was?? Listen to the guy.. Oh it's ice... lol really? Yes really? It's condensation? 1. When you fly at constant speed, do you feel the movement? How can you have a glass full of water and not spill it if you are driving at the same speed? Physics you dumbfuck, it's called physics, go back to school. |
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^^^ Thanks for the gaslighting comments and fisheye lens image. Guess who the stupid asshole is?
So all the high-altitude balloon images that show a curved earth have a "fisheye" lens image, and somehow magically the one you point to doesn't? You're truly insane. You're probably the kind of guy who looks into a pair of binoculars the wrong way and wonders why everything is so tiny. It's a retarded argument made by retards. There are pictures of the whole earth from space, of course in that case they are forced to say it's fake, it's invented excuse after invented excuse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvMV-A3nEdQIs the dome rotating around us? LUL. |
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^^^ Thanks for the gaslighting comments and fisheye lens image. Guess who the stupid asshole is?
Stars moving at night clearly show the earth is moving, check mate. |
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