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701  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 15, 2019, 04:18:58 PM
^^^ What kind of nonsense are you trying to say? You are essentially saying that if there are 99 killers, and 1 who never killed anyone, that the 1 is a killer, as well, even if he never killed.

N.T. expression of killing was never by a command of God, or in a command of one of God's N.T. prophets, nor do we have even one example of a Christian killing... in the N.T.

It's either that you are ignorant, or that you have bad faith.

Most grocery stores in most countries sell some form of coffee. Get some coffee, so that you can perk up a pot of it, and wake up and smell the coffee.

Cool

''Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.''

''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.''

God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused...

However, it never talks about others doing any of the killing without God. And maybe even with Him. How is that? Because God is almighty. Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything. He has the right, because He is owner. You simply don't understand the gracious goodness of God. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg51050551#msg51050551.

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''Anything that anyone does is really done by God, because it is God Who does everything.'' So it's god's fault then when people go to hell.
702  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 15, 2019, 04:18:09 PM
...

''Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.''

''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.''

God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused...

You are correct in part. I had forgotten about certain parts of the NT. Well then, you explain it. Christians en mass do not follow written directives to violence that may be found in their old "holy books."

Then they are hypocrites, why worship a book that has clear rules commanded by god and not follow them? If you think they are wrong, why are you following the book then? Is god wrong then? Illogical.
703  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: May 15, 2019, 04:16:27 PM
^^^ The ship becomes obscured by the mirror zone from the narrow band mirage covering the horizon. You should kill yourself for claiming there's no refraction at play. It doesn't matter if you're a brainwashed retard or paid shill, go fucking blow your brains out or tie a rope around your neck.

BTW you (or another shill/retard) posted this video already and I proved there's a narrow band mirage with the birds flying by. I'm not even going to waste my time digging up the old post. Just fuck off and die already.

You can clearly see it doesn't though, there is no mirage in that video, compare it to your gif examples if you want, you can clearly see the bottom of the boat, it's not doubled. Fix your eyes buddy.
704  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: May 15, 2019, 04:15:14 PM
^^^ Don't you see that the major difference and similarity (at the same time) between adaptation and evolution is the random mutation change? I talk about pure random. Why? Because random in the standard sense means that the reason for the mutation is not understood.

Since the mutation isn't understood, there is no factual evolution. Why not? Because the mutation is said, right in the understanding of evolution, that it is not understood.

Since it is not understood, how can anyone say that it is a changing of one animal into another? "Evolution," by its own self-description, destroys any understanding that for-a-fact it is a change from one animal to another. How? Through the use of the word "random."

Random mutations are mutations, the understanding of which, is not known. This is what makes evolution like adaptation. Nobody knows if unknown mutations are causing one animal changing to another, or simply an animal adapting to its surroundings.

Since it is not known that one animal is changing into another, evolution is a nice idea. But by its own description is unknown to exist. All the experimentation and digging for fossils, is a looking for something that hasn't, yet, been proven to exist. The explanation that evolution has random involved, says so.

When folks say that evolution exists, knowing that they haven't found any such thing for sure, they are simply propagating a hoax.

If, someday, people can prove that it isn't a hoax by finding a definite changing of one animal to another, through some means like actually DNA change observation, they might have some evidence that evolution can exist. But then they would have to track the same kind of changes through all time to see if evolution was the fact regarding life. This is essentially impossible regarding any science that we are even close to having.

Evolution might be something that is hoped for. It certainly is something that is looked for. But as it stands, to say that evolution is factual is entirely wrong. Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

one animal changing to another, or simply an animal adapting to its surroundings.

Yep, you clearly don't understand it, no wonder you think it's a hoax. Evolution doesn't happen to 1 animal in particular, it happens to a whole species of animals. It's as simple as the example of the peppered moth. ''The evolution of the peppered moth is an evolutionary instance of directional colour change in the moth population as a consequence of air pollution during the Industrial Revolution. The frequency of dark-coloured moths increased at that time, an example of industrial melanism. Later, when pollution was reduced, the light-coloured form again predominated.''

Now if the pollution wasn't reduced, eventually all the light coloured moths would have died and only the dark ones would live, that's what we call evolution, again, it's clear you simply don't understand what evolution is. I think you think evolution is one animal randomly changing into another lol.
705  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: May 15, 2019, 04:11:32 PM

Yes, I fail to perceive your delusional reality.

My senses are failing me in detecting your "unknown and undefined agent who is outside of this universe and influences everything in this universe, an agent who decided to inspire people to write some books but not others, etc."  I am paraphrasing as I don't remember all the details of your delusion.

I suspect you are not only delusional but also paranoid.  You see evil in any progressive thought, people who criticize the Bible, or people who believe in some other religions.  I suspect you view Atheists are the evilest of all people.  I think you have more in common with Islamists than you are willing to admit.

Yet, you admit that you are against slavery.  At least you are better than your God on that point, LOL.

You are an enigma, but I am not an expert in Psychiatry so I cannot help you further.

I suspect your delusion is not as severe as BADecker's or notbatman's, but I cannot be sure.  You could be masking it well because you are brighter than most people who suffer from these religious delusions.


Perhaps that is because you are looking in the wrong way. It is very difficult to touch a cloud or hear the light from the stars. Abstract truths are likewise challenging to perceive when the mind is focused on the senses.

The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D3MWVMKKY3A&

I don’t see evil in all thought labeled today as progressive I simply challenge the claim that most of the ideas so labeled are what they claim to be. I think many of them are regressive.

I also do not view Atheists as the “evilest of all people”. Religions do not suddenly make people evil or good. They provide a forward looking framework for thought and action. They are like blueprints. Starting with an empty field not much has immediately changed if you grab the blueprint for a prison or a cathedral.

With time effort and will, however, that blueprint will eventually manifest itself into reality.  Sooner or later the empty field will be gone transformed into the prison or the cathedral.

The good or evil of humans today are like variations in the quality of the field. Some fields are solid and reliable foundations others are swamps that make construction very difficult.

It is the blueprints, however, that define what will be. I do not think you are evil. I do, however, think your blueprints will create evil. Most bad ideas do.


Your error here is assuming technological advancement built on a foundation of moral subjectivism is progress. Such advancement taken to its logical conclusion and stripped of objective morality will ultimately make us all the slaves of nature not its master.
...

The Abolition of Man
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=idgYLTnSzxI


To me it seems that if you are only doing good deeds because you are afraid of god or because you want to look good for god then you are not a good person. However if you are doing good things just because you want to or you like to make people happy, then yes, you should be considered a good person.
706  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: May 15, 2019, 10:49:39 AM
^^^ Anybody who puts his mind to it can think up science fiction stories like these, that don't have any real substance in fact.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

EDIT: All you are showing is evidence of adaptation that doesn't cover thousands of years. Or if it did, have you or anyone gone back and watched the changes over the thousands of years... or at least tracked the DNA to ascertain that evolution really happened?

Do you know the difference between adaption and evolution though? Evolution IS adaption that is passed through generations, you are, again, really confused about this whole thing. I also don't need to show changes over thousands of years when I can show changes over decades.

''As more brown owls survive, more brown genes get passed down through generations.'' See, through generations which is evolution. Of course evolution has to start with adaption, that's the point of it, I don't think you even know the definition of either one.

Evolution is simple, you have a group of animals, something bad usually happens and they are forced to adapt quickly, most of them die, the ones who adapted survive and pass their genes to the next generations and voila! Evolution.
707  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: May 15, 2019, 10:45:37 AM
^^^ I'm kinda sad for you that you can't seem to absorb but one idea at a time, and even then not the whole thing. There's gotta be classes out there that you could attend so that your IQ could go up just a little.

Most people who ask things of God are asking many things at the same time. Some of them are contradictory. The way God answers is a perfect way.

As I said in another post, if you asked for death, you know full well that you probably wouldn't really be asking for death. What you would really be asking for is the solution to some problem that you are dumb enough that you can't see any other answer than death. But you don't really want to die. If you did, you wouldn't formulate the question. You'd simply go out and suicide yourself.

Same with Eve in the Garden. She didn't want the death that God promised her for eating the fruit. Rather, she wanted wisdom in such a way that she would be like God. But by listening to the serpent, she was really asking for death at the same time she was asking for better life. God gave her both. We don't know how long she lived, but it was probably in the order of 800 or 900 years. And then she died. Odds are very great that she is with God, right now, alive, in Paradise.

So, you see? You need to realize that your simplistic questions are not as simple as you think. Go to IQ school so that you can figure out how to formulate slightly more complex questions.

Cool

You literally said god answers Satan's requests which is simply stupid. Why would god answer Satan's requests? Were you drunk when you typed that?
708  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: May 15, 2019, 10:42:51 AM
@odolvlobo,

   Tell me Eisenstein, does the vehicle disappear bottom first or top first when entering the mirage (mirror zone)?


Source:
   Mirage in Death Valley -- https://youtu.be/S9CztTYuGqg




Your pea-brain needs to grasp the concept that refraction has multiple effects, one effect is a mirror zone such as the narrow band mirage (fata morgana) that covers the horizon line. Another effect, an optical distortion (superior mirage) that causes a rise in the apparent elevation of objects in the entire field of view is a different phenomenon that is also attributed to refraction.


Source:
   Superior Mirage Time Lapse 8/7/2011 -- https://youtu.be/bifAV2tjJuw




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nUFLLUahSI

No mirage here and the boat still disappears bottom first as its shrinking.
709  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for pixel artists on: May 15, 2019, 10:40:20 AM
bump
710  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Colorado school Shooting! on: May 14, 2019, 07:47:14 PM
Guns are already banned from schools, and this is precisely the reason why there are so many mass shootings in schools.

Teachers and school administrators should be allowed to carry guns on school property, and this would probably stop ~all school shootings. Not every teacher needs to have a gun in their classroom, but the threat that they might have one is going to be enough to prevent someone from wanting to carry out a school shooting.

I dont really think that is the case. How many shootings end up with the shooter killed by the police or themselves at the end of it? I can't say for certain, but I'd imagine a lot of people that plan attacks, don't intend on escaping alive. You don't see the same patterns as with armed burglary where the attacker gets in, does what they came to do, and quickly leaves before police arrive. People go in and stay until they are surrounded by police.

I also don't believe that attacks are more frequently perpetrated on gun free zones because attackers are concerned for their own safety. Its just a guaranteed way to get on the news. If you are a suicidal psychopath, being on national news for a final hurrah might be appealing. The cycle will continue until we stop giving these people the attention they crave. Of course that won't happen though.

[...]
Someone wanting to carry out a mass shooting wants to inflict maximum damage to his victims, and going to a gun free zone will mean the shooter has an extended time until he encounters any kind of resistance to his attack. If a shooter were to go into a school in which all the teachers have guns, he would be stopped nearly immidiately, which is not what he wants, so he will not even try.

Also someone who wants to carry out a mass shooting will certainly don't care where and how he gets his firearms, even if all firearms were illegal in that country he would still be able to buy them illegally, it's also quite easy when you don't give a shit about anything.
711  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Purple Hearts Podcast: John McAfee on: May 14, 2019, 07:43:29 PM
I mean, the guy is pretty crazy but that doesn't mean he is not smart. The same can be said about Trump, the man is certainly not stupid even though he is a bit crazy. I would probably not vote for Mcafee but I still think he is better than a lot of other candidates including Hilary.

Problem is we don't know how "crazy" the guy can get. IMHO officials in the executive branch should at least have some public governance experience.

But who knows, maybe he'd be a better president than Obama and Trump. If not, at least America entertained the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNUfDYGUueE

We don't know how crazy anyone can get, psychopaths can be quite intelligent and well spoken. Hilary for instance seemed to me way crazier than Trump or even Mcafee, she literally said she wanted a ww3 with russia, crazy woman, thanks god she didn't get elected.
712  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: May 14, 2019, 07:05:39 PM
^^^ God makes people alive. God lets people die. God does everything. When people come to life or die, God does it, just like He rolls the stars around, runs the electric-plasma engines that make the stars shine, makes the earthquakes and the peace that follows. The whole thing is His, He makes it all happen in every way, and understanding how and why He does things is what counts.

Satan can't do anything. Rather, (in this universe, at least) Satan requests from God, and God is the Mover Who does it. Why? Because nothing in this universe happens without God doing it.

Why does God answer requests to do bad things? Because when He set up this universe, He set it up on a request basis, that He would answer requests. There wasn't any idea of death or evil with God. But even though Satan - and to a lesser extent, people - brought evil into being, God doesn't change His answering of requests.

The interesting part about this is, God has His own plan that will get rid of all the evil. He will do it by creating the Lake of Fire, and dissolving the whole universe in it... including Satan, his angel followers, and all his human followers, as well. Why will He do this to those people and fallen angels? Because they are asking for God to not be in their presence. The LoF crash will be the result of God leaving this universe at their request.

God owns it; He has the right and duty. He, also, offers everyone a way out... Jesus salvation. Even believers die in this life. And God does it for them, so that they can put off the evil, and take up their places in heavenly joy... with a new body that doesn't have any of the weakness of this one.

So sad that you are going to miss it by asking God not to be in your life. But, God does it for you, whatever it is that you ask. You just don't realize all the things that you are really asking when you ask something. For example. If you are like af_newbie, and ask God to write something in this forum, you are really saying down deep that you want God to NOT write anything in this forum, especially when you request Him to, because you don't want to be forced into accepting the reality of God. (Why do I waste my time on you?)


You are like the quadriplegic who feels so helpless that he wants to die. But he is so weak that he can't take his own life. So he says, "Let me die; I can't take any more of this," not knowing that it is God he is requesting his death from. For a long time God withholds death, trying to get the guy to ask to be saved. And it actually stresses God to stretch His "disobedience" of His own law of giving what was asked for (The stretching is what pained the soul of Jesus, to death, on the cross).

But finally God gives the quadriplegic joker what he asks for. Too bad the QJ didn't realize that there was a lot more to the rejection of God than the simple "blankness" he was asking for. God tried to warn him over and over... even prepared a way (Jesus salvation) to get him out of his illness and into a new body in joy and happiness, forever.

But even the blankness of complete reduction to nothingness will be accomplished in the QJ. It will all be done at the end of eternity.

Cool

''Why does God answer requests to do bad things? Because when He set up this universe, He set it up on a request basis, that He would answer requests.'' Damn you are falling in a deeper hole every time you type anything, so god answers requests even if those requests are about killing other people which essentially gets rid of their free will which you always defend, at this point my brain is exploding of how ILLOGICAL what you said is, it's quite remarkable.
713  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: May 14, 2019, 07:02:45 PM
^^^ You showed things like
- evolution = adaptation
- evolution = simple change
- evolution = like begets like.

The thing you didn't show was one animal changing into another over hundreds of thousands of years. Since this is the biggest part of evolution, and since you didn't show this, you didn't show evolution. You might have repeated the fiction story that this is what happened, but you didn't show that it happened.

Since the hundreds-of-thousands-of-years thing is the BIGGEST part of evolution, and since you didn't show that it happened, you didn't show evolution. But if you claim you showed evolution because you showed that evolution was in adaptation, simple change, and like-begets-like, you are really turning the word "evolution" into semantics through being vague. When you do this, you are simply and essentially saying that...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool


https://brightside.me/wonder-animals/how-11-animals-have-changed-over-time-665560/
http://mentalfloss.com/article/64300/6-animals-are-rapidly-evolving
http://www.ba-bamail.com/content.aspx?emailid=31994

I mean, I can continue, do you need more? I'm now waiting for the next excuse which eventually will turn into the classic made up cause and effect ''law'' and ''outside the universe''.
714  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 14, 2019, 07:01:09 PM
^^^ What kind of nonsense are you trying to say? You are essentially saying that if there are 99 killers, and 1 who never killed anyone, that the 1 is a killer, as well, even if he never killed.

N.T. expression of killing was never by a command of God, or in a command of one of God's N.T. prophets, nor do we have even one example of a Christian killing... in the N.T.

It's either that you are ignorant, or that you have bad faith.

Most grocery stores in most countries sell some form of coffee. Get some coffee, so that you can perk up a pot of it, and wake up and smell the coffee.

Cool

''Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.''

''Detailed in the passages where God sends four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-7), commands the angels to sound seven trumpets (Revelation 8:7-11:15), commands the angels to unleash seven plagues (Revelation 16:2-17). Finally the Great Beast, his False Prophet and all non-saved are cast into a Lake of Fire.''

God himself sent others to kill people, you only have to read it, you seem confused...
715  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Keep religious beliefs personal to promote peaceful coexistence on: May 14, 2019, 06:58:08 PM
^^^ Except that the dictionary definition of religion shows that people who DON'T necessarily believe in God most certainly can be religious.

In the same way that people have heads, arms, legs, and torsos, etc., so they all have the laws of God written in their hearts via DNA programming.

So, you actually believe in God, because you haven't entirely overridden your basic DNA programming... yet. Of course, if you finally do it, you will die shortly thereafter.

Cool

''religion
/rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/
noun
noun: religion
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms:   faith, belief, divinity, worship, creed, teaching, doctrine, theology; More

a particular system of faith and worship.
plural noun: religions
"the world's great religions"

a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.''

First and second definition include faith and worship, third one could be the best one for your trash argument, however not believing in gods is not an ''interest'' or ''pursuit''

Definition of interest is:

''Your interests are the activities that you enjoy doing and the subjects that you like to spend time learning about''

Not believing in gods is not an activity or a subject you need to learn.

Definition of pursuit is:

''an activity that you spend time doing, usually when you are not working''

Again, not believing in something is not an activity.

Therefore using the dictionary we can conclude that not believing in gods is not a religion.


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717  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ww3 soon? China vs America? (I hope not) on: May 14, 2019, 05:47:51 PM
This isn't the first time a trade war happens so I don't see any reason to believe there is going to be a world war 3 lol. World wars happen for a lot of different reasons and variables, it's not just one particular thing, they are very complex and this certainly isn't.
718  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Keep religious beliefs personal to promote peaceful coexistence on: May 14, 2019, 05:29:40 PM
^^^ The problem with this is that some religions tell their adherents to be violent with people of other religions.... particularly Islam.

So, it's a good idea to know the other religions, even if you don't share.

Most religions have embedded within them the idea to share their knowledge. The idea to not share religious beliefs, is itself a religious belief that is being shared... in contradiction to its own statement... right in the theme of this thread.

Cool

It's not because not sharing something doesn't have rules or any code written anywhere, someone who doesn't believe in gods cannot be called religious, simply because he does not follow any particular rules from any particular book like you do, we also don't worship any kind of god or deity. You are confused.
719  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 14, 2019, 05:28:08 PM
I believe no religion actually preaches hate or has hatred or killings in his holy books but just that some religion and your case sample have a lot of extremist and fanatic, who want to comply everyone to their religion. I have quite meant a few Muslims who showed me love beyond my imagination and they will let you know thats what the holy book preached. But i also think its two various sects in Islam that raises the eye bras

Actually the bible and the quran both literally tell you to kill people, it's literally written in both books, clearly with no interpretation or anything, in fact both gods from both books killed people, god himself got rid of 99.999% of earth's population with the flood.

This argument comes up repeatedly. In fact it's like one of the top ten sham arguments that "Christianity is no better than Islam."

The simple reason it is a sham is that Christians do not follow Old Testmanent directives advocating violence. End of subject.

Extremist Islamics do follow such directives. Arguably, rank and file Muslims do not or follow it in a more limited sense - restricting themselves to stoning gays, adulterers, apostates, or otherwise repressing, jailing or killing them. Regardless, this is not comparable to the method and extent to which Christians ignore silly violent nonsense in their old books.

Wrong argument: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people#New_Testament_killings_by_God

The new testament includes a lot of killing too, even if it didn't it's a horrible argument to mention that only the old testament included god commanding people to kill others.
720  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: May 14, 2019, 05:22:43 PM
^^^ Further attempted distractions from the fact that evolution is a hoax.

Nobody has proof that evolution is real. All they have is the science fiction that Darwin put forth, with a bunch of additions over the years to fill out the missing parts. The fact is that the filling was necessary to make the story seem real, because since the time of Darwin, loads of discoveries have been made that entirely disprove Darwin.

Got any proof that evolution factually exists? If not, why not say it like it is?... that evolution is a cute idea thought up by some jokers who were looking for other ideas than creation.

Since you present unproven evolution as fact, especially when you know that it can't be prove by any means that we have available, you are perpetrating a lie.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are one of the hoaxers.

Cool

I showed dozens of different proofs of evolution and it all came down to you inventing cause and effect as an 100% fact and 'outside the universe' to try and debunk the evidence presented. That's why we are discussing about it and you keep ignoring it because you have no evidence of it. Admit you lost.
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