^^^ I have answered these questions in the past. Why is it that you forget the answers so fast?  Free will = / = killing everyone, didn't god strap them of their free will when he killed them all? Remember God's words to Adam and Eve in the garden? "The day you eat of it you will surely die." Even though they were walking around like they were alive, they were already dead in spirit, because they willingly, freely, ate. They removed themselves from free will when they killed themselves. Their children were dead, even though the machinery of their bodies and minds appeared to be alive. Why? You can't get life out of something that is dead. Spiritually, they were dead already. The body and mind were made so well by god that they seemed to remain alive for centuries (in some cases) even though the spirits were dead already. There is only one way to come back to life. That is to believe in Jesus salvation. With faith life is renewed by God. "You are gods, to whom the Word of God comes." This doesn't mean simply reading it. It means a penetration of the Spirit of the Word into the heart and soul of the reader. Such believers never die, even when their bodies are dead. Great argument, why didn't god get rid of Adam and Eve after they ate the fruit if their spirits and the spirits of their children were already dead? Why wait until the population was big to kill everyone instead of doing it at the start? LOL |
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^^^ We have no other evidence than C&E. Nothing comes about without a cause. Therefore, since the universe exists, in universe language there was a cause - the Great First Cause - even though we don't know what that cause is like, or even if it was a cause regarding itself, that is, with relation to itself. Right but I'm talking about ''outside the universe''. You just admitted that we don't know if that exists but you keep using it in all your arguments freely like it's already a proven thing, isn't that illogical? |
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^^^ You and I (average people) might talk honestly with a Jew and a Muslim. But the Muslim won't talk honestly, because he has Islam larceny in his heart. And the Jew is simply too shrewd to be honest, except when it is clearly to his advantage.You mean like Jesus and his message, LOL Come on come on let's all be friendly and respect each other's beliefs without mockery eh.. Why should we respect others ''beliefs'' exactly? Beliefs are based on nothing, therefore should not be respected. Should I respect muslims wanting to kill all non-muslims because it's their ''belief''? LOL do you know that you saying you don't respect beliefs means you shouldn't expect your ideas, thoughts or beliefs to be taken seriously. I'm not saying respect the belief of killing non Muslims, but rather that of religion (instead of the mockery above) Oh and also, belief is based on everything we're living on/for) No, the definition of belief is this: belief /bɪˈliːf/ noun 1. an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.
If you believe in something just because you want to with no proof/evidence then you are a retard and you shouldn't be respected. So you are not saying respect killing non-Muslims, why? By your logic we should respect all beliefs so why not respect that one too? |
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Are Christians protected from discrimination by our current laws?
Are the transgender people protected from discrimination by the current laws?
You said in the past that you are against extending the discrimination laws to protect the transgender people.
Saying that Christians are discriminated is like saying that WASPs are discriminated in the US. Christians rule the US.
Yes Christians are protected by current law. No individuals with gender dysphoria are not. I am opposed to big government in general and that includes the creation of an ever expanding list of special legally protected classes over time. We need to be reducing government’s size and role in our lives not growing it. At least there is something we agree on. I too oppose big government, but c'mon discrimination laws is not the best way to reduce government. I think you are against this particular group of people because of peer pressure from other Christians. You know that harming people is wrong, but you go with the flow and support this discrimination anyway. For the same reason, 100 years ago, Christians were against giving Blacks or women the same legal protections. Ask yourself: 'What would Jesus character do?" PS. Here you have an example of why moral objectivity is wrong. Other examples from our history are slavery, racial and gender discrimination. You are a moral relativitist because you do not kill gays for breakfast as the Bible recommends. You said yourself that you are against slavery. Where is your moral objectivity? Pushed away into the footprints of history, LOL. PPS. Do you want to trim government size? Close all libraries, digitize books, convert them to one website, where people can check-out books electronically, provide time-based, copyrighted book viewer and you're are done. This would save big bucks, and trim the government payroll numbers. Another much bigger pie is in the military. Bring all troops home, eliminate military bases outside of the US, protect your borders, reduce military personnel. I wonder why god would create gays or transsexuals in the first place, seems like something so unnecessary and it's not even related to free will. |
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^^^ I have answered these questions in the past. Why is it that you forget the answers so fast? Free will = / = killing everyone, didn't god strap them of their free will when he killed them all? |
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^^^ Because we are so universe minded, that we almost can't begin to think what outside the universe would be like. Evolution people are talking about something they claim is within/part-of the universe. They haven't found evolution. When they say they have, knowing that they haven't, they are turning the evolution idea into a hoax. ''^^^ Because we are so universe minded, that we almost can't begin to think what outside the universe would be like.'' And yet you keep claiming it exists with 100% certainty  |
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When did I say that our life has no meaning or purpose?
When did I say that human life is worthless?
Not those exact words but similar ones perhaps? The life on Earth is not special
The purpose of life is to survive and reproduce
You are a good person if you follow the moral code that your society accepts.
Here is a thought experiment for you af_newbie. Say the Nazi's had won WWII and gone on to kill anyone who disagreed with their ideology. Standing triumphant over the hundreds of million dead with the whole world in submission how would you judge the Nazi executioners who led the innocent to their doom in the name of racial superiority and suppression of dissent. Would they suddenly become good men according to you? After all they are only following the code that society now accepts. Those who opposed them no longer live. Or would they be evil men who triumphed and in process dragged the world into darkness and evil. The answer to the question matters a great deal. I judge them evil men despite their victory and despite the fact that they follow the new "moral code" of society would you? ''Say the Nazi's had won WWII and gone on to kill anyone who disagreed with their ideology.'' Kind of like god and the bible? You know, unless you believe in God you go to hell, etc etc? |
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@Darooghe, This argument ultimately boils down to the refraction tables provided by NASA who are proven liars and hoaxer. You act like it's a simple matter to obtain atmospheric refraction data but that couldn't be farther from the truth. Temperature, pressure, humidity, aerosols, etc, etc are all factors that effect the refraction of light in the atmosphere that can't be determined by a small sample of air processed in a lab. Toss in perspective and convergence and there isn't a single object in the sky that's exactly where it appears to be with the exception of objects directly above the observer. This isn't "my science" it's just science based on the scientific method. @odolvlobo, I stated refraction, perspective and convergence causes the Sun to have an apparent position. How the fuck is that backwards?
In other news Google just reported they lost $70 billion dollars in market cap due to YouTube censoring conspiracy related content such as flat earth. Meta: I'd post the link but my IP addresses keep getting banned faster than I can navigate to the cnbc link, hahaha. I'll keep trying to get the link and i'll stuff it in the archive.... "Access Denied You don't have permission to access " http://www.cnbc.com/" on this server." LOL My question now is how much ad revenue and viewers are cnbc losing due to blocking potential readers? "This site can’t be reached The webpage at http://archive.is/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address." Holy crap. ... OK on the link I can access the page formatting is all garbled, the text is unreadable... It's like somebody is freaking out, jeez it's only 70 billion dollars US guys. Just explain to the stock holders that their investment in the copernican universe is the real pay-off, who needs money when they can sleep soundly knowing their investment is saving the globe? So there is no way to ever measure the refractive index? Jeez, it's clear at this point that your brain will do anything to keep you believing in this retarded flat earth shit, amazing. ''Toss in perspective and convergence and there isn't a single object in the sky that's exactly where it appears to be with the exception of objects directly above the observer. This isn't "my science" it's just science based on the scientific method.'' Show us the diagram mate. |
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^^^ Exactly what I have been saying about evolution. The theory is the concept. Evolution itself does not exist that anyone has found. When people state that evolution is fact but know it isn't, they have turned it into a hoax. And yet at the same time you also typed senseless sentences like ''C&E and random didn't exist before the universe existed.'' Do you agree that your sentence is wrong / senseless? Why is it senseless or wrong? C&E and the idea of pure random are things of the universe... similar to the idea of evolution. C&E >>> Proven and used all over the place. Pure random >>> Never found yet. Evolution >>> Never found yet. If the universe weren't caused, we could never say that there is a Great First Cause... God. Why not? We wouldn't be here. Outside the universe - Never found yet. |
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^^^ If religions say the same thing or not... that's the reason religious people should talk to each other... to find out. If you have a tool that breaks, you can attempt to fix it if you want. But if the tool won't fix, toss it... like God got rid of the tools that wouldn't fix, in the Flood. Many of the people were hundreds of years old at that time. You are just a child. God is still patient with you. ''like God got rid of the tools that wouldn't fix'' Why make them in the first place then? Why let them spread again knowing it will happen again? Is he stupid? |
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^^^ When you said that there is nothing after death. Something after death doesn't necessarily give life a purpose or meaning, in fact the bible gives no meaning after death. You go to heaven and then what? What's your purpose there then? Living forever doing what? You could live forever here too, that's not a meaning or purpose. |
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^^^ Exactly what I have been saying about evolution. The theory is the concept. Evolution itself does not exist that anyone has found. When people state that evolution is fact but know it isn't, they have turned it into a hoax. And yet at the same time you also typed senseless sentences like ''C&E and random didn't exist before the universe existed.'' Do you agree that your sentence is wrong / senseless? |
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^^^ Notbatman inside an engineered high-level delusion by a mentally imagined belief source.
He also can't admit he simply believes people on youtube. |
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You are a God-obsessed, delusional individual who thinks that every materialist is a nihilist.
No not every materialist just you. You often resort to calling people nihilistic. However not believing in anything doesn't make you a nihilist, my point of view is simply that I don't know, I don't know if there is a purpose or an afterlife, they could exist, we don't know, that's not nihilism, that's realism. God logically makes no sense and your argument was already debunked by the fact that it uses Godel's theorem wrongly. |
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^^^ Christianity is trying to save souls for Heaven. When the world evolves into things like the science it has become, Christianity has to evolve to reach evolved people in the way they think... just to save them. However, the base of Christianity - the Bible - hasn't evolved. Any religion can argue the same thing, they all have heavens or different ways to live forever, reincarnation, etc. Funny thing, god himself wiped out almost all humanity once, doesn't seem like something you would do when you are trying to save souls for heaven. |
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^^^ There's another of your concepts that doesn't exist. Evolution, also, is a concept that doesn't exist. Do you exist, or are you simply a concept that doesn't exist?  Concept: numbers Physical object: glass You can say glass didn't exist in xxxx You cannot say numbers didn't exist in xxxx because numbers are a concept. It's quite simple to understand really. |
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because religious societies grow naturally atheist ones like usa or communist russia dont grow naturally and dont work for the long term naturally,
usa is dependent on immigrants that are becoming highly offensive
You are extremely ignorant if you just mentioned USA as an atheistic community. USA is one of the most religious countries out there. Please do some research before typing these things. The guy likely never heard of the Bible Belt. If there's a place that one could consider atheistic, it would be Europe. It's kinda true that it's "immgrants" that are having more children in the US. Whites would eventually be a minority, though not as quickly as it is going in Europe. USA is much more religious when compared to my country (Canada). Even the American metros such as SF and LA have significant evangelical populations. And another thing is that the US is the primary destination for evangelical immigrants, especially those from South Korea, Vietnam and Latin America. If that was not the case, then Trump would have lose the 2016 elections. Don't forget the Muslim immigrants. These are basically extreme fundamentalists as far as religious orientation. Where the Christian churches vary widely, and only a few are considered "fundamentalist," all Islamic groups are so. Well that's certainly true, christians have ''evolved'' in a way, they basically ignore all the immoral passages of the bible and at least try to be somewhat good, muslims are still too outdated, they are basically living in 1500 still. |
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^^^ Well, it seems that this is your belief... or at least you would like it to be. I don't want to change your belief. In fact, when you are so adamantly stuck in this direction, I welcome your belief... for you, that is. I suspect that you will die. What do you think? No matter what you think about your death, we will find out whose belief is more accurate. Or don't you think we will? It's the same with the Muslims. We and they will find out. Or do you think we will be dead before we know it? Belief huh? I'm literally quoting the bible, unless you think those passages are not in the bible, that's not a 'belief' it's literally what's written in the bible. The new testament talks about slaves, how to use them, how to treat them, etc. So you are trying to say that what is written in the Bible is not believed to be written in the Bible, but is actually there? Good work. You can read, then? I guess this is the best you can do when you have no argument and have to ignore hundreds of evil passages in the bible, new testament included, then again I don't blame you, you are human after all and you know deep down that slavery, rape, etc is wrong and those bible passages are immoral. |
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Over 15k replies in this thread, that's what i call a discussion  "About 489,000,000 results (0.45 seconds)" -- Google It's really shame that with Google's advanced technology it can't perform the relatively simple task of filtering out the spam sties that populate the first page of results. These spammers promote the false religion of earth curvature and ignore actual science like the physics of water because they're trying to trick you and scam you. Earth curvature can't be observed or measured; it's a faith based belief system. Still waiting for notbatman to admit he doesn't perform any experiments himself, has no degree in any science and simply believes what the internet or a few youtube videos tell him and he laughs at us because we simply believe the mainstream scientists when he does literally the same, dunning kruger at its best. |
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