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1321  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What happens when the last bitcoin is mined on: November 26, 2014, 07:51:03 PM
There was a lot of panic and speculation leading up to the first block reward halving in late 2012 (from 50 BTC to 25 BTC). However the actual incident turned out to be uneventful. The next halving to approximately 12.5 BTC will will happen in 2 years and will probably be just as uneventful. In about 140 years, if Bitcoin is still around, the fees will be the majority of miner's income. I bet nobody will notice the block reward disappearing (unless 1 Satoshi is worth a fortune then).

A few minutes of research shows that in the past few weeks the block reward is generally 25btc + ~0.2btc in fees. (around 1%).

If bitcoin grows in popularity over the next 6 years, the 2020 halving will reduce block reward to 6.25btc + ~0.8btc fees (4x the fees of today due to much higher transaction volume). That's now over 15% of the miner incentive coming from transaction fees.

Of course this is a lot of speculation regarding volume, but it shows the idea of fees eventually funding the miners
1322  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: - negative diff hike - on: November 26, 2014, 06:43:37 PM
My favorite thing is that a bitfury system from last September continues to churn out bitcoins at ~1.2w/gh profitably. When I bought the device almost Noone expected it to be profitable past 6-9 months of use.
1323  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [DIY] - Reward $100 | Antminer S1/S3 Blade on Raspberry Pi on: November 26, 2014, 05:32:09 PM
Still looking for some boards BTW, i know most of you are in the US and shipping cost kind of put the board price a bit up for me.

Anyone in Canada with some board to sell ? Would be awesome Tongue

I have some in the toronto area. $60/s1 or $45/boards only (including controller). Plus shipping
1324  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: btcgarden-AM-v1 down to $0.53/GHs. In stock for international selling! on: November 25, 2014, 11:27:30 PM
I had 5 of the 8 boards suddenly just stop hashing and I am not sure why?? I have tried all of the boards and could only get three of them hashing..anyone got any ideas as to why?

Try changing the order of the ribbon cables, or plugging the pi it to unit 4 (with 5-8 chained to it) to see if the issue is in common or an error on board 4 meaning 5-8 don't communicate through it normally


Thank you for your input what I have done so far is I have tested each word individually and I also changed the number on CG miner to one board when I did it to make sure that they are getting the full hash unfortunately there are five boards that are just not hashing at all when hooked up and I have no idea what it could possibly be because it was running at 1.2 terahash for about three months nonstop. Now I have a 450 terahash machine. If anybody has any ideas I am very interested in hearing them.

seems odd that 5 boards would not work at all - are they powered by a seperate psu, or any other commonalities between them? One or two boards simply not working anymore would likely be an issue with the DC/DC regulator or the individual controller. But 5 board at once seems like a cascading issue across the boards to make them all stop.

if you have a multimeter check the voltage. look for 12V and ~0.8V presence from the inductor or capacitors. If either is missing it narrows down the problem
1325  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Cooled Miner C1 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 25, 2014, 11:17:00 PM
will the RM1000w damage the c-1 miner (looks like it should cover)? Will the 1200w be okay running 3 s'3s?

I've been running 6x s3's on the 2x 1200wRM for almost 3 weeks now with zero issues. It's right on the limit 340w s3 x 3 = 1020 watts.... Is this very bad? It's been very stable with no heat stone cold to touch on all the equipment. Will this damage the psu quicker over time? Any info will help I would like to buy more of thse to power 3 s3's at a time. They seem very steady, reliable, and affordable.

Ive run 3x S3 units (not s3+) on a corsair 1200W without problem, but its pushing the limit. I now only run 2 on it though.

the reason? ATX GOLD supplies like it tend to be most efficient at 230V and ~70% load. At 90%+ load the efficiency drops from 92-93% to 85-88%, which adds up over time.
1326  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: November 25, 2014, 10:48:26 PM
many people don't understand the many pluses of home mining, but as time goes on and the network grows we will get squeezed out due to power limits.
this is true only if difficulty growth continues to outpace Bitcoin price. If the Bitcoin priced moved to $750 (+100%) in the short-term while difficulty only grows +50% then there will be two effects:
1) mining at higher power draws or with >1w/GH equipment will immediately be profitable to run for most people, even if electricity is ~$0.28/kwh or more
2) miner prices are cheaper because what now costs 1BTC ($375) to build and ship will only be 0.5BTC or less

granted - I expect that almost all but hobby mining will be centralized very soon, wherever electricity is cheap or cool air is abundant. That's just a natural outcome as Bitcoin becomes a competitive technology and companies like Bitfury intend to operate over 100MW of equipment
1327  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: btcgarden-AM-v1 down to $0.53/GHs. In stock for international selling! on: November 25, 2014, 02:01:47 PM
I had 5 of the 8 boards suddenly just stop hashing and I am not sure why?? I have tried all of the boards and could only get three of them hashing..anyone got any ideas as to why?

Try changing the order of the ribbon cables, or plugging the pi it to unit 4 (with 5-8 chained to it) to see if the issue is in common or an error on board 4 meaning 5-8 don't communicate through it normally

1328  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: November 25, 2014, 01:55:05 PM
What are you guys accomplishing by rebooting the miner every hour or when it hits a threshold?

Yeah I'd also appreciate an answer to this. Anyone?

Usually it's when something about the setup (the pool, the hardware, the Web connection, w/e) is inconsistent and causes the hashrate to drop or chips to be 'x' out after a few minutes or hours of operation. Reboot clears the problem until they occur again.

Imo moat hardware doesn't need this, unless you have a troublesome unit. I don't use it for any of my miners other than a bitfury system that's over 14 months old and sometimes stops hashing an individual card
1329  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: November 24, 2014, 04:02:13 AM
since you only have 4 days on your warranty why not post a few photos of the issue and maybe some of us  can figure a way to clean your heatsinks.
I am a compulsive tinkerer when I get my sp20 I will most likely do a long thread on how to make it work better. I will post 20 or more photos and I will post the policy that mentions you break it you are on your own.
  to be fair to the builders of gear they do need some control over people the tinker with the gear.
Thanks bud, but i already snipped out the front panel, and cleaned the ones that i could reach with a toothbrush.

i may post a pic or 2 tomorrow, and the next time i have a power cut i shall attempt to take the top board off to clean the lower back 9 heat sinks. (maybe check out the thermal paste? under there)
Sounds like your usage of the device isnt really covered by the warranty. As was mentioned, its common sense (and in the T&C) that most devices and electronics may have their warranty voided if opened or otherwise modified - often at the discretion of the manufacturer.

For cleaning the heatsinks use compressed air - works like a charm, and if you blast it in the back it works well to clean fuzz and dust out of the heatsinks.
1330  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Pix of one of the largest Bitcoin mines on: November 24, 2014, 03:29:22 AM
Is this farm making any profit? Inquiry mind likes to know.

of course it is. Likely paying low power costs and difficulty increases have really stagnated along with the price - a god thing for mining.
1331  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [GUIDE] Undervolt antminer s1 [1.19W/GH at the wall] on: November 23, 2014, 05:33:32 PM
so i tried undervolting, have 0.73-0.77 measured on all chip sections, but have tried a few frequencies between 193 and 250 with mixed results.

193-200 sems to cause reboots and only one side of chips recognizes, but does not hash at all in the first few minutes, then beeps and restarts
218-225 seems to cause about half the chips to work, for 60-80GH
250 caused errors and almost all chips x out

any suggestion? im using an 8B pencil with reasonable precision.

update: seems to be running pretty well at 212.5MHz and 65 timeout. started up with some errors, but after a reboot its now seeing all chips and producing ~120GH (no kill-a-watt handy though)

just curious - how many people are moving these to smaller/no heatsinks once undervolted? I see Chaositec doing them in a tight stack at ~50GH (~45w?) per board, and I really want to do something similar (mostly to free up some fans to replace other noisy fans on rockminer gear)
1332  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: November 22, 2014, 09:13:05 PM
Hi,

I have a problem with my S4. I run it for about 7 days and soon after, it started to be very unstable. Hashrate would drop to 1.6 Th, after reboot it wouldn't start mining unless rebooted twice. Last night its been playing up badly so I rebooted it once, that didn't solve the problem so rebooted it again, after that my miner never came back. I had to power it off as miner wasn't responding. Since then, my miner is dead, I get LCD coming up but its blank, LED on network port is flashing, LED's on controller are on . I don't get red LED next to display so not sure what's wrong.  

Any idea? Help much appreciated. Smiley

Cheers,

my guess is the SD card in the controller (Its a beaglebone right?) Get a class 10 card, image it and try that
1333  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: November 22, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
So I guess this all means that us regular creditors are screwed.

All of us creditors have been screwed since the bankruptcy motion was filed months ago.

The lawyers going through the motions and doing their expensive little dances just makes the screwing official.

ASICMINER should try to outbid everyone else for HF's 28/16nm ASIC IP, but they'd probably rather waste money on another one of their own failed designs than simply buy a proven one and its bleeding edge successors.

not sure what youre spouting nonsense like this for - Asicminer's BE200 is a 40nm chip that is capable of 0.7w/GH. They already have a 28nm BE300 taped out that is expected to be around 0.3w/GH at the chip level

hashfast has effectively made thier hardware and IP worthless at this point
1334  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: November 22, 2014, 03:47:07 AM
I think we under estimate how many in home miners there are that are shutting down.

thats my guess - probably the remaining S1 units and some of the other >1w/GH gear that is operating in more expensive areas is finally switching off - and new hardware additions are slow due to a weak bitcoin value.

1335  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 24" PCI-E cables with 16AWG wires and 6" 18awg splitters - great for server PSU on: November 22, 2014, 03:39:49 AM
Could you please give me a final price for 64 24" leads shipped to USA?

PM sent. as a general note, if you send me a PM ill see it sooner then i notice posts in the thread Smiley
1336  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitcoin Miner as a job on: November 21, 2014, 06:05:54 PM
LTCgear is legit.  I have been with them almost 3 months now, zero issues.  Get payouts weekly directly to my wallet.  LTCgear does not prorate payments when you buy shares.  They take a snapshot of your number of shares on Friday, and pay out based on difficulty over the week.  LTCgear has been in business for over a year now, with many satisfied customers.


learn to math first. 

Then check what & who you believe - pay today & get a full weeks payout tomorrow....? sounds legit


I run 11Th & its NOT enough but then im not 15 yrs old, living at home rent-free & dreaming of having pubes/sex one day.

You're really trying to sell the shit out of ltc gear aren't you?

Seriously, cloud mining is risky. Its the very definition of the perfect Pontiac scheme - where either difficulty and bitcoin price move in a way you can say 'oh, it's not profitable so contract is over as per the terms' and take any remaining profit, or to simply scamper off with the profit when you are at the peak of accepting new buyers. Watch out.

1337  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: November 21, 2014, 06:00:06 PM
That is actually the protective sticker still on. Only thing broken is the plastic piece

Oh god you're one of those people. My ocd is screaming at me to drive to your house, peel off the plastic, then head back home and have a beer.

For the broken hook, you could possibly embed a cord or metal ring in a hefty glob of JB weld or gorilla glue. Should bind and hold to the case for years
1338  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: November 21, 2014, 05:51:13 PM
What is the maximum temperature an Antminer S3 ASIC can run at without degrading the hardware?

 80℃

That's the thermal shutdown temp. Realistically, you should have 40-50c ideally, but probably won't see any real problems in error rate until over 60c
1339  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [DIY] - Reward $100 | Antminer S1/S3 Blade on Raspberry Pi on: November 21, 2014, 02:59:05 AM
how do i check that? im a noob at this stuff. the board that hashes at 1/2 speed has no VDD on string 3 and it looks like its a bad tps53355dqpr, well R41 is only registering .08V so maybe thats it.

i had a TPS53355 go bad on an S1 months back (when RMA was possible), and it knocked out the section of chips. Not sure if the regulator is the point of failure, but you can actually order sample components from texas instruments (including this part) and they will often ship in nextday with fedex. (Its actually really awesome of them)
1340  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitcoin Miner as a job on: November 21, 2014, 02:01:22 AM
What kind of job is that? Dust the fan of the SP20 every week? I guess I should say "fans" because at the current difficulty and exchange rate you'd need 4 x SP20s to make $200 a week.

I have about 40TH/s and for me mining is a hobby that has gone a bit out of control, but one set up I don't have to touch my miners. It is not really a job until you get up to the petahash range.

10TH here - pretty much full agreement. I make about $50/day, or ~3.7BTC in the next month - minus almost $800 in electrical bills ($0.15/kwh), so not very much profit after paying all upfront costs. At this point $1500 in electrical work, and $1200+ in networking gear, PDUs (213V), and power supplies since starting small a year ago.

if you have cheap power where you live (ie: $0.10/kwh or less, it could be worth looking into as an investment. But outside of 5-10hrs of buying, receiving, setting up, and getting it working right, there's not much more work to be done - maybe a few minutes here and there to tweak cooling or reboot - its not a job. Even with 10TH spread across 12+ machines of different brands and styles I only put in 15-30min a week tuning overclock settings or rebooting a troublesome Bitfury unit
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