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1341  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: **UPDATED** Current P2Pool Server List on: August 27, 2013, 06:32:21 AM
i've had litecoin up @ http://nogleg.com:9327/static/ for a while now as well

unless it becomes standard to note the donation %'s, I guess no real reason to have it on mine.  to me it implies that other pools are  at 0%.  maybe it should only be noted if it's above 1%
1342  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7000GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: August 27, 2013, 06:27:20 AM
The amount of lost shares in p2pool are normal. And every p2pool miner has the same. So its fair among the p2pool users.
Theory: But that means that a certain amount of hashpower is lost compared to solo mining. The shares maybe were good but they are lost and so is the amount of time invested in them.
Solution?: Am i right that this is no disadvantage to solo mining because the real bitcoin block that is found in p2pool is directly put into the network via solomining? So the lost shares does not affect in the end because for the real found block those lost shares dont exist. Correct? Then p2pool would be even better than normal pools because they have to receive the found share first and from there propagate it.

Sorry for the many questions... Smiley

no problem, they are good questions - some are answered in other places but it can be hard to find.

Yes, p2pool's internal share chain has lots of stales. But the p2pool network DOES NOT produce more bitcoin chain orphans (and thus wasted work) than solo mining.

Work is not lost using p2pool, those stale p2pool shares can still solve a block and still be submitted to the bitcoin network for reward. The time and work invested in them is not lost. Those shares just don't show up in the p2pool sharechain, but will show up in the bitcoin blockchain. The rewards for those blocks are paid out normally to p2pool users and are not wasted.

Theoretically, a 100% efficient p2pool miner that has ~5-10% stale/DOA rate will have the exact same expected value as a solominer with the < 0.5% orphan rate.

except sometimes those stales that solve blocks... are, well, a stale right after a block was found.  re the shenanigans that go on when switching from one block to another

not sure if p2pool would proceed along it's own chain or not?  either way, it's a block that'll most likely be orphaned.  that's when the slow getblocktemplate matters

1343  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7000GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: August 26, 2013, 11:23:33 AM

This transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/6dad36cbfca544df4b2608dd38df0e9a91061075c780cf10acdc74e6d7f00504

added 0.3seconds to  GetBlockTemplate latency. It is 87k in size with 588 inputs and fee of 0.0093.

This is included if you have mintxfee=0.0001 as fee is over 0.0001*87=0.0087.

However we are never going to earn a lot of fees if we include TX's like this as each block could only hold 11 of them for total fees of 0.1BTC! And have latency of 3.3 seconds.


Does anyone know where in the code this is? Seems odd that it takes so long. It does not have to check sigs or anything like that.


it is in main.cpp

int64 CTransaction::nMinTxFee = 50000;  // Override with -mintxfee
int64 CTransaction::nMinRelayTxFee = 50000;

(i think the following one just applies to your own created transactions)
int64 nTransactionFee = 50000;        

you'd also have to change the fee after the default 27000 priority transaction is full

the nMinFee = xxxx.

otherwise after 27000, it'll accept priority transactions at the .0001 rate, while using .0005 for the rest

mine has only accepted 0.0005 for a while now
1344  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Running own p2pool node or just mining on p2pool.org? on: August 26, 2013, 11:14:32 AM
well, you should have less DOA if you set up a local node.  you might have some orphans if you';re bandwidth starved (generally upstream if youre in the US), though i couldn't imagine it being much worse than p2pool.org (maybe everyone should start charging a fee, i guess it lends some sort of legitimacy).

 if you're going to mine on a remote pool, find a better one here http://p2pool-nodes.info/ or here http://p2pool.hostv.pl/

1345  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Electricity prices on: August 26, 2013, 11:09:26 AM
The tiered plan here has always had reducing prices the more you use, summer or not

but if you consider the base fee, it probably cancels out a lot of those small increases that are being listed here...  like a $20 or $25 meter reading fee
1346  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: How does a new person break into bitcoin mining? on: August 26, 2013, 11:02:52 AM
If you speculate the price of Bitcoin to increase along with the difficulty level then you will see a ROI (eventually)

Good beginner site would be minersource.net or buy from the forums or some other trusted seller of bitcoin mining hardware that have the hardware actually in stock.

I agree with the above statements. No preorder crap.
yes, but if you speculated that, then you should just buy bitcoins, not buy ASICs.. buying the ASICs would leave you with less on hand funds to buy bitcoins at market price

right now, there are not any asics worth buying.  you could 'break into bitcoin mining' by just using your existing graphics card and wasting some electricity for a while just for kicks
1347  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTB] Facebook Ad Credits/Codes on: August 26, 2013, 10:59:31 AM
haha, yeah, this guy is selling them for $ 5 when they give them out for free, if you havent paid for advertising before.
1348  Economy / Digital goods / Re: WTS AMD Never Settle Forever Gold game code on: August 26, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
aren't they going to add diff games later?  right now it's a pretty shoddy list
1349  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Big Brother tracking bitcoin transactions on: August 25, 2013, 07:37:41 AM
Should we take a hit on our perceived anonymity for the sake of creating a more viable currency?

Less perceived anonymity does not create a more viable currency.

I don't really care if governments decide to accept Bitcoin or not.

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

Building bridges between the government and existing financial systems absolutely does create a more viable currency.  You SHOULD care if governments accept bitcoins or not because that will have a direct impact on their value and longevity as a storage of wealth. 

I'm assuming the "dogs" in your comment are supposed to be the governments that track revenues for the sake of collecting taxes?  If you currently pay taxes in any way, shape or form you're already "lying down with the dogs" on some level.  Might as well be the top dog if you're there.

if you're paying taxes and doing it properly, all the gpus, asics and such you buy are tax write-offs.  it's not so bad, esp if you are in a high tax bracket
1350  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7000GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: August 24, 2013, 09:44:43 AM
No you set the difficulty in advance.  If you aim for a difficulty 1 share, but get a hash that is good enough for a difficulty 10 share, it still only counts as a difficulty 1 share.

When you get a share, it gets added to the share chain and when the next block is hit, you will get a share of that block's payout.

OK, that makes sense.  I thought that p2pool paid out each successful share based on the difficulty of that share itself (how close to zero the hash was), not based on the target difficulty.  Interesting how there's still so much variance in the payout table, then: each payout is slightly different, they don't quantize themselves into recognizable patterns.

Since there's only 8640 shares, I would think that it would be easy to see groupings in the payout table, but instead, each number is slightly different.  Does the target difficulty continuously update itself and change a little each time?  Maybe that is why.

yes, the difficulty target adjusts based on that particular pools hashrate

not sure when the source starts calling for the actual share difficulty to go up, but the pseudo shares used to measure your hash rate start to increase in difficulty somewhere around 5-10ghash?

Blah/50000+5

would make difficulty 5 share targets for showing hash rate on graph,  and 50000 difficulty target for you to get a portion of the block (assuming your hash rate wasnt high enough to push it above those #'s already)

long polling still opens just as many connections, it may reduce bandwidth usage for stratum, but stratum has never worked properly for me on p2pool.    oh, the new non-punish policy is great,  it would be slow nodes fault if something got orphaned anyway

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#000000000000ce061ad134ff10377613d98ae66dc1fc065311c8e039600a63c9

correct share, orphaned:  http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#000000000000386801f1d4782ab9931c9a4c63c6eec24c6c4eaa2ba903e03b48

incorrect share, not orphaned:  http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#00000000000166aebdbc7be75dfec1657a15706e21e2ad89bbb13cfa7b0ec5e2

but note in came over a minute earlier.   so this reduces your risk of punishing yourself
1351  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7000GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: August 23, 2013, 11:06:18 AM
i changed the whole punishing share code,  curious as to how it'll work now.   i'm guessing better, since it seems some people have super high latency times

hmm, if i can see any examples.  looks like stratum messed up, always use long poll

much better, i think.  it gives you all the possible routes:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#000000000002889fc03f2c9739b7ea6e43eb45ae9dba97fef40bc0511923f5ea

this way you aren't cornholed onto a path that'll be orphaned

(so essentially you wont be penalized for being 20 seconds faster than person X with hundreds of ghash)

btw, i sent all the people that were on the pool when i took it down the equivalent to what the bitcoin mining calculator says you'd make in a day w/ the hash rates you were getting on my pool  Grin

eh, one more edit, here's a great example:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#00000000000176b9ab070f7f71cf4e3a7f83211d6341bf08f85e65f33c77553c

if you were 'punishing' shares, then you would have followed the f0ec7e42 route, which (despite being the "proper" route), was orphaned by

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#000000000000470ee8f03b070dfce951c8dd5ed2ed65eee5c2c4016416d5803f
1352  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7000GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: August 23, 2013, 07:57:55 AM
I've always had those, never occurred to me that there was something wrong.  Shocked  I though it was just part of the way nodes talked to each other.

Well, something else that's interesting is that;

2013-08-23 02:36:38.222282 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!

if you go back a few shares, a parent share is 35417e20, not 15364f72.  so some node built off of 35417e20, while mine was trying to jump to something else.

i guess we've come to the conclusion that the share right before a block "almost always" gets orphaned (35417e20 didn't), and a share directly after a block has a good chance of getting orphaned (i.e. if I had built off of 15364f72, instead of 35417e20)
 
so i guess after taking everyone's hashrate into consideration, you'd want to get your getblocktemplate slow enough to not cause problems.  the largest node is private, but you can see on http://p2pool-nodes.info/ that one at 740ghash is *10 seconds behind

ed:  slightly over 2/3rds of all my orphans are within 30 seconds of a block solve,  and, yes, i have logs for this
1353  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7000GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: August 23, 2013, 07:50:47 AM
For higher hashrate miners, is it suggested to manually set the difficulty in cgminer (with p2pool), or does it not matter?

For example, right now my cgminer instance is running at around 42GH/s. It has set the difficulty to 8. Is there any reason to set it higher than that? Reduced bandwidth/latency? My miners are on the same LAN as my p2pool but a different box.
Every share you send back to p2pool has to be processed by p2pool also.
If when you were mining at 1GH/s and 1diff was ok - then now at 42GH/s ... 32diff should be fine and a good reduction in traffic and work for p2pool
I don't suppose you know what's going on in the cases I've mentioned earlier, re: 'block punishing'?  I mean, it just occurred again:

Code:
2013-08-23 02:36:36.305546 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!
2013-08-23 02:36:36.339671 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.054000 BTC including 81 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.351527 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.054000 BTC including 81 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.751961 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.054000 BTC including 81 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.761378 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.054000 BTC including 81 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.771340 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.054000 BTC including 81 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.814705 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.819406 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.824652 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.864917 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:37.098987 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:38.222282 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!
2013-08-23 02:36:38.224874 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!
2013-08-23 02:36:38.378350 P2Pool: 17381 shares in chain (17386 verified/17386 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:38.378422  Local: 26290MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.6% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 55.6 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:38.378471  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:38.378500  Pool: 6347GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:39.802242 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.564387 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:41.380678 P2Pool: 17381 shares in chain (17386 verified/17386 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:41.380785  Local: 26309MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.1% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 55.6 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:41.380812  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:41.380839  Pool: 6347GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:43.231486 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!
2013-08-23 02:36:43.234013 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!
2013-08-23 02:36:44.384158 P2Pool: 17381 shares in chain (17386 verified/17386 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:44.384233  Local: 26209MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.2% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 55.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:44.384265  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:44.384313  Pool: 6347GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:44.752935 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.293497 Share difficulty: 20477.949393 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:44.758756 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.293497 Share difficulty: 20477.949393 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:44.762847 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.293497 Share difficulty: 20477.949393 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:44.766554 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.293497 Share difficulty: 20477.949393 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:44.770481 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.293497 Share difficulty: 20477.949393 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:47.387908 P2Pool: 17383 shares in chain (17387 verified/17387 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:47.387956  Local: 26146MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.4% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:47.387977  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:47.387999  Pool: 6210GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.8 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:50.391492 P2Pool: 17383 shares in chain (17387 verified/17387 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:50.391569  Local: 25876MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.5% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 56.5 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:50.391623  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:50.391659  Pool: 6210GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.8 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:52.048541 Peer sent entire transaction 50568fcac8cba9832defc7b00d60525d974398a0a8d024f020e547c2e0ba5d21 that was already received
2013-08-23 02:36:53.395083 P2Pool: 17383 shares in chain (17387 verified/17387 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:53.395145  Local: 25977MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.4% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 56.3 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:53.395178  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:53.395232  Pool: 6210GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.8 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:55.116668 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.803832 Share difficulty: 20703.110888 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:55.121003 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.803832 Share difficulty: 20703.110888 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:55.126434 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.803832 Share difficulty: 20703.110888 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:55.130866 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.803832 Share difficulty: 20703.110888 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:55.135451 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.803832 Share difficulty: 20703.110888 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:56.398741 P2Pool: 17384 shares in chain (17388 verified/17388 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:56.398809  Local: 26169MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.9% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:56.398833  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:56.398860  Pool: 6317GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:59.402290 P2Pool: 17384 shares in chain (17388 verified/17388 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:59.402359  Local: 26216MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.0% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 55.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:59.402384  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:59.402410  Pool: 6317GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:02.404632 P2Pool: 17384 shares in chain (17388 verified/17388 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:02.404679  Local: 26219MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.0% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 55.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:02.404698  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:02.404727  Pool: 6317GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:04.131761 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.146221 Share difficulty: 20766.274991 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:04.136337 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.146221 Share difficulty: 20766.274991 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:04.140519 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.146221 Share difficulty: 20766.274991 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:04.144732 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.146221 Share difficulty: 20766.274991 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:04.149379 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.146221 Share difficulty: 20766.274991 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:05.408842 P2Pool: 17385 shares in chain (17389 verified/17389 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:05.408916  Local: 26269MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.0% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 55.7 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:05.408961  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.8% (70-116%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:05.408989  Pool: 6393GH/s Stale rate: 14.9% Expected time to block: 9.5 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:06.977319 Peer sent entire transaction 33e2ab4c055cc4ca86bc4e91a498251bd6b67ad895a8c14a5ee8343e3404bc11 that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:07.464300 Peer sent entire transaction 0e48dd63a527fbf741151d1c4ee5072d9b80fb90391870b13e8a5cf8721d843d that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:08.322038 Peer sent entire transaction aa12f6d1365091314d45a42e4d3416686bae16065aa3f72bf8bb9f970183d1fd that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:08.323989 Peer sent entire transaction aa12f6d1365091314d45a42e4d3416686bae16065aa3f72bf8bb9f970183d1fd that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:08.413169 P2Pool: 17385 shares in chain (17389 verified/17389 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:08.413239  Local: 26160MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.4% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:08.413273  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.8% (70-116%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:08.413315  Pool: 6393GH/s Stale rate: 14.9% Expected time to block: 9.5 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:08.487781 Peer sent entire transaction aa12f6d1365091314d45a42e4d3416686bae16065aa3f72bf8bb9f970183d1fd that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:08.528353 Peer sent entire transaction aa12f6d1365091314d45a42e4d3416686bae16065aa3f72bf8bb9f970183d1fd that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:11.415357 P2Pool: 17385 shares in chain (17389 verified/17389 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:11.415431  Local: 26174MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.4% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:11.415456  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.8% (70-116%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:11.415484  Pool: 6393GH/s Stale rate: 14.9% Expected time to block: 9.5 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:14.419718 P2Pool: 17385 shares in chain (17389 verified/17389 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:14.419775  Local: 26158MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.4% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:14.419795  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.8% (70-116%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:14.419816  Pool: 6393GH/s Stale rate: 14.9% Expected time to block: 9.5 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:15.313745 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.575333 Share difficulty: 20986.878674 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:15.319642 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.575333 Share difficulty: 20986.878674 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:15.324575 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.575333 Share difficulty: 20986.878674 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:15.329373 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.575333 Share difficulty: 20986.878674 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:15.334505 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.575333 Share difficulty: 20986.878674 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:17.424088 P2Pool: 17386 shares in chain (17390 verified/17390 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:17.424157  Local: 26216MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.5% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:17.424182  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.8% (70-116%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:17.424209  Pool: 6370GH/s Stale rate: 14.9% Expected time to block: 9.5 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:17.555224 GOT SHARE! 1M3F5DR4vApgHqsAJ6U1HE4HNEjo7Pm52j 6715f728 prev 8330845a age 2.24s
2013-08-23 02:37:17.598157 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.823438 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:17.603165 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.823438 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:17.608200 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.823438 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:17.612861 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.823438 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:17.617838 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.823438 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:20.428282 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:20.428353  Local: 26184MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.6% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:20.428377  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:20.428404  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:22.190647 Peer sent entire transaction bd24d80d5bec4ee1fdf2fd6acb915b093a0b80297e6f9c7f27c9a274160301e0 that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:23.432429 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:23.432515  Local: 26203MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.6% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:23.432557  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:23.432607  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:26.434657 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:26.434714  Local: 26320MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.5% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.6 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:26.434733  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:26.434763  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:29.202000 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.255298 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:29.209532 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.255298 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:29.214798 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.255298 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:29.220106 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.255298 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:29.225737 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.255298 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:29.438895 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:29.438951  Local: 26172MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.6% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:29.438976  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:29.439019  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:29.751491 Peer sent entire transaction d07644cdb394408d5577d94fab28bd7bd6d37409caec910d1f10cda3441485ce that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:32.441166 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:32.441222  Local: 26142MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 56.0 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:32.441243  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:32.441264  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:32.794320 Peer sent entire transaction a0942de9274557442c23612adedbbee0e7f15a8bfe819da531db10945fa93d72 that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:33.295995 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.177154 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:35.445414 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:35.445470  Local: 26108MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 56.0 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:35.445505  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:35.445533  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:38.447588 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:38.447666  Local: 25810MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 56.7 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:38.447697  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:38.447740  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:41.451777 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:41.451844  Local: 25809MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 56.7 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:41.451869  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:41.451896  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:44.455965 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:44.456027  Local: 25760MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 56.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:44.456059  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:44.456102  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:44.833058 Peer sent entire transaction 40a891f6f36e899eee66d7c9eafeca70dc823b858f062379035be825240ec952 that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:47.460145 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17392 verified/17392 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:47.460219  Local: 25623MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.1 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:47.460249  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:47.460296  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:50.464325 P2Pool: 17341 shares in chain (17345 verified/17345 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:50.464400  Local: 25532MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.9% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.3 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:50.464432  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:50.464475  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:53.466555 P2Pool: 17341 shares in chain (17345 verified/17345 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:53.466615  Local: 25621MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.1 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:53.466634  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:53.466656  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:56.470720 P2Pool: 17341 shares in chain (17345 verified/17345 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:56.470776  Local: 25707MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.0 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:56.470801  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:56.470828  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:59.474910 P2Pool: 17341 shares in chain (17345 verified/17345 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:59.474971  Local: 25614MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.2 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:59.475010  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:59.475054  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:38:00.136204 Peer sent entire transaction 4e2d5605ee677eb05d5886f1d4880adbbe0feaad0454dbfd7a135c0a5f72fa8a that was already received
2013-08-23 02:38:02.477363 P2Pool: 17341 shares in chain (17345 verified/17345 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:38:02.477408  Local: 25701MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.3% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.0 minutes
2013-08-23 02:38:02.477428  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:38:02.477449  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:38:03.052989 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.691175 Share difficulty: 21030.759769 Total block value: 25.016600 BTC including 26 transactions
2013-08-23 02:38:03.058485 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.691175 Share difficulty: 21030.759769 Total block value: 25.016600 BTC including 26 transactions
2013-08-23 02:38:03.063583 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.691175 Share difficulty: 21030.759769 Total block value: 25.016600 BTC including 26 transactions
2013-08-23 02:38:03.068791 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.691175 Share difficulty: 21030.759769 Total block value: 25.016600 BTC including 26 transactions
2013-08-23 02:38:03.074284 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.691175 Share difficulty: 21030.759769 Total block value: 25.016600 BTC including 26 transactions
2013-08-23 02:38:05.481469 P2Pool: 17342 shares in chain (17346 verified/17346 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:38:05.481524  Local: 25697MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.5% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.0 minutes
2013-08-23 02:38:05.481548  Shares: 11 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~18.2% (5-48%) Efficiency: ~95.5% (61-111%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:38:05.481575  Pool: 6299GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours

This time it didn't happen to me, just someone else on my pool

this is the parent share:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#000000000001f90357a566ca033b29dc46ae0b94d7eb6768c31ec2628330845a

this share occurred 2 seconds later:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#0000000000018eac2129fca1b0e81f0c534cdc3ae31a37ee8efc86ae6715f728

yet was orphaned by this:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#00000000000198d38c5f376622d534be44609dccc809cf5ef7db34c24d4d25bc

This is the block that the second share built off of:

2013-08-23 07:37:29 received block 0000000000000024459f254565cf9805af13e4dbb84f02d7427ba01a213fd2c1 from xxx (edited out ip)

so, that means

2013-08-23 02:37:17.555224 GOT SHARE! 1M3F5DR4vApgHqsAJ6U1HE4HNEjo7Pm52j 6715f728 prev 8330845a age 2.24s

was valid

...  am I missing something here?  'cause surely this just doesn't occur to me, right?

#2

Code:
2013-08-23 04:55:24.964851 P2Pool: 17333 shares in chain (17337 verified/17337 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:24.964918  Local: 25145MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.2% (4-9%) Expected time to share: 55.2 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:24.964959  Shares: 13 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~15.4% (4-43%) Efficiency: ~96.6% (65-110%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:24.965001  Pool: 4906GH/s Stale rate: 12.4% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:26.100285 Skipping from block 4606457e65a683e775d65e680a76363138cfb7ef84bdd7b058 to block 1efa9abb1c86c9fc9053385b7af0fef3494891283288383cea!
2013-08-23 04:55:26.105455 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19457.980945 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.108751 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19457.980945 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.113014 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19457.980945 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.116206 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19457.980945 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.120136 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19457.980945 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.587415 GOT SHARE! 1NWRyGxCTCfTtKgL6qB4f3pU3qKKtmppHT a6dd6d67 prev bfa5e0b6 age 92.27s DEAD ON ARRIVAL
2013-08-23 04:55:26.630659 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.633545 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.636782 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.639647 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.643405 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:27.967688 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:27.967739  Local: 25001MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.5% (4-9%) Expected time to share: 55.5 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:27.967759  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:27.967780  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:28.377111 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.366393 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:28.381046 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.366393 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:28.385844 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.366393 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:28.774942 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.366393 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:28.779941 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.366393 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:30.970451 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:30.970530  Local: 24972MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (5-10%) Expected time to share: 55.5 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:30.970557  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:30.970601  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:31.100588 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.312653 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:32.311022 Peer sent entire transaction 82f4eb99186b6ff964604a37f88cc46d784f4050b0ffcd1897929b1d86903b33 that was already received
2013-08-23 04:55:42.980109 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:42.980192  Local: 25273MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (4-10%) Expected time to share: 54.9 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:42.980227  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:42.980282  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:45.982896 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:45.982983  Local: 25239MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (4-10%) Expected time to share: 55.0 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:45.983009  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:45.983052  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:48.985199 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:48.985260  Local: 25152MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (5-10%) Expected time to share: 55.1 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:48.985280  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:48.985309  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:51.987879 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:51.987965  Local: 25311MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (4-10%) Expected time to share: 54.8 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:51.987991  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:51.988035  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:54.990546 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:54.990617  Local: 25320MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (4-10%) Expected time to share: 54.8 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:54.990661  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:54.990688  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:56:07.004644 P2Pool: 17332 shares in chain (17336 verified/17336 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:56:07.004713  Local: 25434MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.7% (4-10%) Expected time to share: 54.5 minutes
2013-08-23 04:56:07.004733  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:56:07.004754  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:56:08.622982 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.651428 Share difficulty: 19306.660433 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 8 transactions
2013-08-23 04:56:08.626644 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.651428 Share difficulty: 19306.660433 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 8 transactions
2013-08-23 04:56:08.630166 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.651428 Share difficulty: 19306.660433 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 8 transactions
2013-08-23 04:56:08.635809 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.651428 Share difficulty: 19306.660433 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 8 transactions
2013-08-23 04:56:08.640667 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.651428 Share difficulty: 19306.660433 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 8 transactions
2013-08-23 04:56:10.032628 P2Pool: 17333 shares in chain (17337 verified/17337 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:56:10.032705  Local: 25549MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~7.1% (5-10%) Expected time to share: 54.3 minutes
2013-08-23 04:56:10.032741  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~21.4% (7-48%) Efficiency: ~89.0% (59-105%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:56:10.032781  Pool: 4794GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.6 hours

the cool thing about this one is that this is the share in front:

Fri Aug 23 2013 04:53:54 GMT-0500

this is the one after that:

Fri Aug 23 2013 04:56:00 GMT-0500     (yah, over 2 minutes later)

04:55:26.587415 GOT SHARE! 1NWRyGxCTCfTtKgL6qB4f3pU3qKKtmppHT a6dd6d67 prev bfa5e0b6 age 92.27s DEAD ON ARRIVAL

shouldn't have been DOA, since my client had recognized a new block and created a new one with 0 transactions.  it doesn't even count it as DOA until 04:56:10  (note the share increment +1 from 04:55:58 to 04:56:00, but no message, then the second work at 04:56:08 it became 'dead')

again, was during a block change,  the prior share is Previous block: 000000000000004606457e65a683e775d65e680a76363138cfb7ef84bdd7b058, the others after are Previous block: 000000000000001efa9abb1c86c9fc9053385b7af0fef3494891283288383cea, that is including the "dead" share, a6dd6d67 (it was on the correct block, the 92.27s is curious)

i suspect the fact that it was valid is why i didn't get any of that punishing share spam from the previous one

Oh, sweet... here's a 3rd one that just happened while I was editing message about the previous:

Code:
2013-08-23 05:47:23.274095 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(2f54c6db7e99a0a299f2d84297c74f537415233fade7983fbe) < height(3ae3f8f040af83e9c764dde4550998e45c0184d3b5f814c633) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 834d9d07 to 92cf9c15!
2013-08-23 05:47:23.308177 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.064800 BTC including 91 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.317422 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.064800 BTC including 91 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.326641 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.064800 BTC including 91 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.335845 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.064800 BTC including 91 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.348955 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.064800 BTC including 91 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.393725 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.397599 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.401849 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.487164 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.590376 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:24.229396 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(2f54c6db7e99a0a299f2d84297c74f537415233fade7983fbe) < height(3ae3f8f040af83e9c764dde4550998e45c0184d3b5f814c633) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 834d9d07 to 92cf9c15!
2013-08-23 05:47:24.231973 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(2f54c6db7e99a0a299f2d84297c74f537415233fade7983fbe) < height(3ae3f8f040af83e9c764dde4550998e45c0184d3b5f814c633) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 834d9d07 to 92cf9c15!
2013-08-23 05:47:25.525733 P2Pool: 17358 shares in chain (17363 verified/17363 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:25.525808  Local: 25999MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.6% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:25.525842  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~21.4% (7-48%) Efficiency: ~84.5% (56-100%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:25.525885  Pool: 5977GH/s Stale rate: 7.0% Expected time to block: 10.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:26.351018 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.389662 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:28.528032 P2Pool: 17358 shares in chain (17363 verified/17363 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:28.528106  Local: 25972MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.8% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:28.528140  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~21.4% (7-48%) Efficiency: ~84.5% (56-100%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:28.528183  Pool: 5977GH/s Stale rate: 7.0% Expected time to block: 10.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:29.241004 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(2f54c6db7e99a0a299f2d84297c74f537415233fade7983fbe) < height(3ae3f8f040af83e9c764dde4550998e45c0184d3b5f814c633) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 834d9d07 to 92cf9c15!
2013-08-23 05:47:29.243525 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(2f54c6db7e99a0a299f2d84297c74f537415233fade7983fbe) < height(3ae3f8f040af83e9c764dde4550998e45c0184d3b5f814c633) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 834d9d07 to 92cf9c15!
2013-08-23 05:47:29.553604 GOT SHARE! 1NWRyGxCTCfTtKgL6qB4f3pU3qKKtmppHT e1eb9751 prev 834d9d07 age 28.91s DEAD ON ARRIVAL
2013-08-23 05:47:29.600756 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.363605 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:29.603800 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.363605 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:29.606790 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.363605 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:29.610935 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.363605 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:29.615148 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.363605 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:31.530876 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:31.530952  Local: 26053MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:31.530984  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:31.531028  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:34.533769 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:34.533840  Local: 25956MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.5% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:34.533874  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:34.533912  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:37.535969 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:37.536024  Local: 25925MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.4% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:37.536051  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:37.536072  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:39.648491 Peer sent entire transaction 644b409d119e52422477e5bdb1d43a171fbbc0237fbd79d279cc5fc52b0163cd that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:40.538790 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:40.538861  Local: 25895MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.2% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:40.538903  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:40.538947  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:40.862985 Peer sent entire transaction ba2ce537f4fea66b84d455df9972a50d3370812b5fefdae8e3115b3fbd032326 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:40.876972 Peer sent entire transaction ba2ce537f4fea66b84d455df9972a50d3370812b5fefdae8e3115b3fbd032326 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:40.925990 Peer sent entire transaction 159c83693cebfa58d39a141bcf1a5c16be497ffbb68483398b9b5b34b860ec5b that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:41.676211 Peer sent entire transaction 7e1dd3924e6da5ec31659375d90621ee264a4b232907eb93164c39743a311498 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:43.541064 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:43.541142  Local: 25698MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:43.541214  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:43.541253  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:43.831815 Peer sent entire transaction b0b6ff2cb57017f761b817d793ec3001471786071f7f05b46070b1d16d823f77 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:45.515048 Peer sent entire transaction d6aa6756f37c7485cfb50ea3d373b2b1803480affb0708dc9f6599a1a4615da1 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:45.904462 Peer sent entire transaction e1dccb3f703e064b51045945fb24aa76db88452149cad4cdcbeabfb4347138f0 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:46.544110 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:46.544199  Local: 25755MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:46.544227  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:46.544275  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:47.741478 Peer sent entire transaction 6fca78b7962e6a76502a722e1607f637a3da7fe2e37eb9990b097dd51d4bf5e9 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:49.546956 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:49.547031  Local: 25717MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:49.547063  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:49.547107  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:49.930791 Peer sent entire transaction e1dccb3f703e064b51045945fb24aa76db88452149cad4cdcbeabfb4347138f0 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:52.549272 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:52.549335  Local: 25725MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:52.549355  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:52.549378  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:54.722683 Peer sent entire transaction a14cbacc0c47e700f3ddc089ed9f629da746bc8e62eecfdfd78d82ac3ccb6285 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:55.552022 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17365 verified/17365 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:55.552106  Local: 25736MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:55.552132  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:55.552176  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:57.157035 Peer sent entire transaction 0077f8109891319f6c3b4019c70457f8b8fd460a960c305c24b4773d6c1488ad that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:58.554197 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17365 verified/17365 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:58.554261  Local: 25789MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.0% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:58.554281  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:58.554303  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:58.685818 Peer sent entire transaction a14cbacc0c47e700f3ddc089ed9f629da746bc8e62eecfdfd78d82ac3ccb6285 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:48:01.557008 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:01.557065  Local: 25875MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.9% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:01.557084  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:01.557106  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:04.559689 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:04.559757  Local: 26006MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.9% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:04.559782  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:04.559809  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:07.561893 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:07.561949  Local: 26041MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.9% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:07.561969  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:07.561991  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:10.564614 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:10.564676  Local: 26116MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.8% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:10.564697  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:10.564720  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:13.566714 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:13.566771  Local: 26145MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.8% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:13.566800  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:13.566832  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:16.569505 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:16.569567  Local: 26191MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.8% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:16.569587  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:16.569609  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:19.470123 Peer sent entire transaction 2d7fbbf7ea7d0dd62027c820eff677a681f68e213e8adccf98931f2932cfa846 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:48:19.572157 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:19.572207  Local: 26180MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:19.572248  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:19.572296  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:19.577930 Peer sent entire transaction 2d7fbbf7ea7d0dd62027c820eff677a681f68e213e8adccf98931f2932cfa846 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:48:22.574409 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:22.574484  Local: 26234MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:22.574523  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:22.574552  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:25.577315 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:25.577394  Local: 26152MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:25.577420  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:25.577464  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:28.579532 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:28.579582  Local: 26293MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:28.579601  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:28.579622  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:31.582265 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:31.582326  Local: 26356MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:31.582346  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:31.582368  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:34.584942 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:34.585014  Local: 26253MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:34.585047  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:34.585078  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:37.587163 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:37.587214  Local: 26349MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:37.587233  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:37.587260  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:39.713241 Peer sent entire transaction 3b3ade36d4c9fd9ed356784917f04ce7bc847dafaad16a3ddde68cde721fe9f4 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:48:40.589933 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:40.590000  Local: 26321MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:40.590019  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:40.590040  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:43.592039 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:43.592096  Local: 26329MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:43.592115  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:43.592145  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:46.594935 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:46.594993  Local: 26123MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:46.595012  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:46.595035  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:49.597592 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:49.597678  Local: 26314MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:49.597704  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:49.597749  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:52.599827 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:52.599885  Local: 26331MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:52.599905  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:52.599926  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:55.602606 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:55.602687  Local: 26307MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:55.602713  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:55.602756  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:56.843399 Peer sent entire transaction 596fb358c590e5515d2dc13b54a4b0cf9a31641ff18586c9c407b037f0bb6e4e that was already received
2013-08-23 05:48:58.604817 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:58.604877  Local: 26197MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:58.604896  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:58.604918  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:49:01.607618 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:49:01.607682  Local: 26164MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:49:01.607713  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:49:01.607745  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:49:02.242663 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.261772 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:02.724427 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.214171 Share difficulty: 23976.049974 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:02.730327 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.214171 Share difficulty: 23976.049974 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:02.734859 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.214171 Share difficulty: 23976.049974 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:02.739069 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.214171 Share difficulty: 23976.049974 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:02.744210 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.214171 Share difficulty: 23976.049974 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:04.610290 P2Pool: 17339 shares in chain (17343 verified/17343 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:49:04.610367  Local: 26181MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.9% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:49:04.610404  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 3 dead) Stale rate: ~26.7% (10-52%) Efficiency: ~78.8% (51-96%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:49:04.610448  Pool: 5978GH/s Stale rate: 7.0% Expected time to block: 10.1 hours

Though ^^ is actually legit.  Well, sort of... except for the fact that share 834d9d07 is here:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#000000000000c6ddbfff20f48d642a0f2b00e1b57bfb5e0da6638843834d9d07

and didn't get jumped at all
1354  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Electricity prices on: August 23, 2013, 02:54:26 AM
The prices here are cheaper for business, the base price is actually 0.094848 for residential (plus a $20 meter reading fee every month), but they haven't charged that much in 5 years or something.  A portion is deducted based on price the electric company had to pay for electricity (which for my location is 90% natural gas and 10% wind).

so here you can see price of natural gas by state:

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_pri_sum_a_epg0_peu_dmcf_m.htm

texas isn't the lowest, but, well, texas is pretty big, and it is a lot cheaper in south, SE, NE texas.  re:  http://www.eia.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/analysis_publications/ngpipeline/intrastate.html

so, anyway, i've been paying about 6.5c for electricity, even though it says 9.5c.  the base price for industrial is 7.15c, but it comes with a minimum charge of $475.  i assume they also get a discount,  but maybe not as much.  still cheaper, i'm sure

there's also a different residential plan, where you get charged a $40 base fee, first 150 kWh x kW x 0.124944 (unadjusted), next 100 kWh x kW x 0.108944, excess kWh x 0.084440 (ed: fixed w/ updated rates),   so, yeah, it gets cheaper if you use more
1355  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: **UPDATED** Current P2Pool Server List on: August 23, 2013, 02:42:25 AM
I noticed this:

Quote
Amsterdam, NL | http://p00l.co:9332 | 1.0% | BTC | P00l.co | Ka [0.5% Pool, 0.5% Author]
Amsterdam, NL | http://p00l.co:9327 | 1.0% | LTC | P00l.co | Ka [0.5% Pool, 0.5% Author]
Amsterdam, NL   http://p00l.co:17335 | 1.0% | Zetacoin | P00l.co | Ka [0.5% Pool, 0.5% Author]

so maybe I should mention that 5.9.24.81:9332 and 5.9.24.81:9327  have 0.0% fee, but i put in a 0.2% donation some months ago
1356  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7000GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: August 20, 2013, 09:09:14 PM
all that is between that and the found share is a lot of 'punishing' messages.  It also had 3 shares with 0 deads for 24 seconds, until someone else found a share (because my node never broadcast it, I think).  What's wrong w/ broadcasting a share with 5 transactions?  If I set the block max size to 1000, would it have broadcast it? 

I am guessing it would have, since there wouldn't have been any new transactions to add?

i set maxblocksize to 1000 temporarily, unless someone has some better idea
1357  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7000GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: August 20, 2013, 09:03:52 PM
Well, now that I get a share every 8 hours or so, (yeah, I'll use code, but the log is also at www.nogleg.com/log)

Code:
2013-08-20 15:16:17.565104 P2Pool: 17386 shares in chain (17390 verified/17390 total) Peers: 46 (3 incoming)
2013-08-20 15:16:17.565184  Local: 13365MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~2.4% (1-4%) Expected time to share: 2.1 hours
2013-08-20 15:16:17.565215  Shares: 2 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Stale rate: ~0.0% (0-66%) Efficiency: ~116.7% (39-117%) Current payout: 0.0075 BTC
2013-08-20 15:16:17.565258  Pool: 5019GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 12.1 hours
2013-08-20 15:16:18.131509 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:18.158050 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.584920 Share difficulty: 23330.319027 Total block value: 25.036400 BTC including 54 transactions
2013-08-20 15:16:18.166192 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.584920 Share difficulty: 23330.319027 Total block value: 25.036400 BTC including 54 transactions
2013-08-20 15:16:18.176351 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.584920 Share difficulty: 23330.319027 Total block value: 25.036400 BTC including 54 transactions
2013-08-20 15:16:18.205053 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.584920 Share difficulty: 23330.319027 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-20 15:16:18.288808 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.584920 Share difficulty: 23330.319027 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-20 15:16:18.396579 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.584920 Share difficulty: 23330.319027 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-20 15:16:22.574397 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:22.577137 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:27.603467 P2Pool: 17385 shares in chain (17390 verified/17390 total) Peers: 46 (3 incoming)
2013-08-20 15:16:27.603554  Local: 13402MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~2.7% (1-5%) Expected time to share: 2.1 hours
2013-08-20 15:16:27.603579  Shares: 2 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Stale rate: ~0.0% (0-66%) Efficiency: ~115.8% (39-116%) Current payout: 0.0075 BTC
2013-08-20 15:16:27.603621  Pool: 5002GH/s Stale rate: 13.7% Expected time to block: 12.1 hours
2013-08-20 15:16:27.606331 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:27.608862 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:32.611694 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:32.614301 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:33.213555 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:33.306933 Peer sent entire transaction c9025e1a4bef77edc8a51741e3379a0cb6f409a22a53f523514ef0464f4d2484 that was already received
2013-08-20 15:16:35.428101 Peer sent entire transaction 24aedb3571c20472a8a2c4e743960be4e1c81187603e534b7160a064a264a9be that was already received
2013-08-20 15:16:37.606924 P2Pool: 17385 shares in chain (17390 verified/17390 total) Peers: 46 (3 incoming)
2013-08-20 15:16:37.607004  Local: 13323MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~2.7% (1-5%) Expected time to share: 2.1 hours
2013-08-20 15:16:37.607040  Shares: 2 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Stale rate: ~0.0% (0-66%) Efficiency: ~115.8% (39-116%) Current payout: 0.0075 BTC
2013-08-20 15:16:37.607093  Pool: 5002GH/s Stale rate: 13.7% Expected time to block: 12.1 hours
2013-08-20 15:16:37.617013 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:37.619625 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:42.622433 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:42.625125 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:47.637642 P2Pool: 17385 shares in chain (17390 verified/17390 total) Peers: 46 (3 incoming)
2013-08-20 15:16:47.637713  Local: 13142MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~2.8% (1-5%) Expected time to share: 2.1 hours
2013-08-20 15:16:47.637738  Shares: 2 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Stale rate: ~0.0% (0-66%) Efficiency: ~115.8% (39-116%) Current payout: 0.0075 BTC
2013-08-20 15:16:47.637766  Pool: 5002GH/s Stale rate: 13.7% Expected time to block: 12.1 hours
2013-08-20 15:16:47.640420 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:47.642876 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:48.271120 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(4ac76984242296a478776acd237ea0535efcfef94f9ab7db90) < height(eb69262e94265b0ba230467985fa5067d446b1cb8ad00e345) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from bc72f1be to 3400b30e!
2013-08-20 15:16:51.838542 GOT SHARE! Ronald McDonald 61f091be prev 3400b30e age 33.66s DEAD ON ARRIVAL
2013-08-20 15:16:51.847710 > Error while processing Event callbacks:
2013-08-20 15:16:51.847775 > Traceback (most recent call last):
2013-08-20 15:16:51.847812 >   File "/home/zevus/p2pool.new/p2pool/bitcoin/worker_interface.py", line 136, in <lambda>
2013-08-20 15:16:51.847853 >     lambda header, user, coinbase_nonce: handler(header, user, pack.IntType(self._my_bits).pack(nonce) + coinbase_nonce),
2013-08-20 15:16:51.847884 >   File "/home/zevus/p2pool.new/p2pool/work.py", line 406, in got_response
2013-08-20 15:16:51.847924 >     self.node.set_best_share()
2013-08-20 15:16:51.847947 >   File "/home/zevus/p2pool.new/p2pool/node.py", line 297, in set_best_share
2013-08-20 15:16:51.847986 >     self.best_share_var.set(best)
2013-08-20 15:16:51.848010 >   File "/home/zevus/p2pool.new/p2pool/util/variable.py", line 74, in set
2013-08-20 15:16:51.848049 >     self.changed.happened(value)
2013-08-20 15:16:51.848071 > --- <exception caught here> ---
2013-08-20 15:16:51.848109 >   File "/home/zevus/p2pool.new/p2pool/util/variable.py", line 42, in happened
2013-08-20 15:16:51.848134 >     func(*event)
2013-08-20 15:16:51.848173 >   File "/home/zevus/p2pool.new/p2pool/node.py", line 96, in broadcast_share
2013-08-20 15:16:51.848196 >     peer.sendShares([share for share in shares if share.peer_addr != peer.addr], self.node.tracker, self.node.known_txs_var.value, include_txs_with=[share_hash])
2013-08-20 15:16:51.848237 >   File "/home/zevus/p2pool.new/p2pool/p2p.py", line 290, in sendShares
2013-08-20 15:16:51.848261 >     assert tx_hash in known_txs, 'tried to broadcast share without knowing all its new transactions'
2013-08-20 15:16:51.848306 > exceptions.AssertionError: tried to broadcast share without knowing all its new transactions
2013-08-20 15:16:51.855569 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.800722 Share difficulty: 23291.224295 Total block value: 25.013000 BTC including 22 transactions
2013-08-20 15:16:51.863598 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.800722 Share difficulty: 23291.224295 Total block value: 25.013000 BTC including 22 transactions
2013-08-20 15:16:51.869447 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.800722 Share difficulty: 23291.224295 Total block value: 25.013000 BTC including 22 transactions
2013-08-20 15:16:57.670471 P2Pool: 17319 shares in chain (17323 verified/17323 total) Peers: 46 (3 incoming)
2013-08-20 15:16:57.670541  Local: 13060MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~3.0% (1-5%) Expected time to share: 2.1 hours
2013-08-20 15:16:57.670566  Shares: 3 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Stale rate: ~0.0% (0-57%) Efficiency: ~115.8% (50-116%) Current payout: 0.0113 BTC
2013-08-20 15:16:57.670608  Pool: 4974GH/s Stale rate: 13.7% Expected time to block: 12.2 hours
2013-08-20 15:17:07.705280 P2Pool: 17293 shares in chain (17297 verified/17297 total) Peers: 46 (3 incoming)
2013-08-20 15:17:07.705360  Local: 13103MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~2.9% (1-5%) Expected time to share: 2.1 hours
2013-08-20 15:17:07.705391  Shares: 3 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Stale rate: ~0.0% (0-57%) Efficiency: ~115.8% (50-116%) Current payout: 0.0113 BTC
2013-08-20 15:17:07.705434  Pool: 4974GH/s Stale rate: 13.7% Expected time to block: 12.2 hours
2013-08-20 15:17:15.784084 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.788098 Share difficulty: 23075.733981 Total block value: 25.016200 BTC including 27 transactions
2013-08-20 15:17:15.789577 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.788098 Share difficulty: 23075.733981 Total block value: 25.016200 BTC including 27 transactions
2013-08-20 15:17:15.795027 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.788098 Share difficulty: 23075.733981 Total block value: 25.016200 BTC including 27 transactions
2013-08-20 15:17:17.740349 P2Pool: 17294 shares in chain (17298 verified/17298 total) Peers: 46 (3 incoming)
2013-08-20 15:17:17.740428  Local: 13015MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~3.1% (1-5%) Expected time to share: 2.1 hours
2013-08-20 15:17:17.740464  Shares: 3 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~33.3% (6-80%) Efficiency: ~76.7% (23-108%) Current payout: 0.0075 BTC
2013-08-20 15:17:17.740521  Pool: 4862GH/s Stale rate: 13.0% Expected time to block: 12.5 hours

This one is different because it actually gives me an error message.  From what it says, it didn't even broadcast my share?  

It made new work for the new block @ 2013-08-20 15:16:18.396579 New work for worker! Difficulty: 2.584920 Share difficulty: 23330.319027 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 6 transactions

all that is between that and the found share is a lot of 'punishing' messages.  It also had 3 shares with 0 deads for 24 seconds, until someone else found a share (because my node never broadcast it, I think).  What's wrong w/ broadcasting a share with 5 transactions?  If I set the block max size to 1000, would it have broadcast it? 

I am guessing it would have, since there wouldn't have been any new transactions to add?
1358  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Thoughts on the future of mining? on: August 20, 2013, 08:24:33 PM
http://www.cnet.com/1990-11136_1-6278387-1.html

 Grin  #4
1359  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Thought on the future of mining? on: August 20, 2013, 08:06:19 PM

I'm not a hobbyist (or ignorant), so I'm not going to waste my money on ASICs that won't turn a profit...

I was thinking that despite changes in the mining economy, Bitcoin can continue to engage members of the community with profitable and/or innovative investment opportunities relating to mining and mining companies. With mining out of the scope of the people's interest, Bitcoin would rely solely on it's application as a payment rail and store of value. As I come full circle I start to think that Bitcoin itself is just the beginning of a money revolution. Regardless, I definitely think a lot of money can be made mining with ASICs, it's just about getting a good price on hardware, and a good price on your bitcoins.

Well, sure, I agree with your last statement... but right now there are too many enthusiasts, hobbyists, people with too much money to spend and lack of knowledge/ignorance about the impact of the rising difficulty levels.  Maybe in a few months an ASIC might be worth buying.

ed:  similar to my dart throwing at nasdaq back in the late 90s, then losing 30% of my assets over the course of a week.  i guess some people had it worse,  those that stuck it out until it finally stopped bleeding in 3q of 2002.

'Nothing important has ever been built without irrational exuberance'
1360  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: GPU is DEAD --- ASIC is taking over and Fast. on: August 20, 2013, 07:57:26 PM
GPU may be dead on LTC mining sooner.

gpu mining on ltc is already crap

i think people must be ignoring the depreciation in their equipment & valuing their time at $0/hr
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