We're also working on a thin client for Monero that is FOSS so people can use it on phones, etc, but we seem to get no recognition for our accomplishments.
The fact that we consistently are the most or second most traded crypto on Poloniex.com (I didn't check Bittrex) for weeks, we receive congratulations from exchange owners on IRC, we have truly notable people like Pietila or Maxwell being most interested in us, apart from the usual petty trolls and newbies questions, the signal-to-noise ratio is particularly high (by Bitcointalk standards), as well as numerous other reasons I would spare you the list, All of these verifiable facts are worth more than weak unfounded accusations. Plus, remember that happy people rarely say they are happy - the "negative bias". As well as our community management team (monero-extended account) doing a great job. Haters gonna hate. Weaklings and newbies gonna whine. Greedy people gonna FUD and opportunists of any kind gonna short XMR. In the end, only three things matter: - Attack is a flattery. No one attacks a failed coin. - Focus on what really matters. That is, what you are the best at. - Don't feed the troll. If a troll thinks we are "disappointed", he will shout "touché" and continue. |
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I know the basic commands. but i can't copy and paste addresses to the client, and writing the whole address and payment id is a bummer, i know that if i don't close the client i can reuse a command with the address with the up arrow but still i restart here and there. is there a way to paste the address?
address in simplewallet + select with the mouse (doubleclic on Linux) then copy. Or the address.txt file |
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run bitmonerod and simplewallet, then just remember to "refresh" and "save" and "exit"
save is for bitmonerod. exit is for both bitmonerod and simplewallet, refresh is for simplewallet. Also for simplewallet: balance and addressFor bitmonerod: set log 0/1/2/3/4 and if you solomine show_hr and hide_hrhttp://monero.cc/getting-startedhas all the commands. |
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I suggest its name starts with a M (no, not "Meow the cat").
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Hey guys, can you tell me from your expirience which GUI Wallet is safe and easy?
thank you verymuch
None. They are all experimental, although it may not be apparent. We are working on it, but have no ETA. If you want security for your money stick with the CLI. It is not that hard after the initial learning phase. I too was intimidated at the beginning, in April. |
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Finally, there is the moral question to consider among this all. Bytecoin was the one that started it all, and to have it fail would, to me, represent a failure of open source principles. It is apparent that whoever wrote the code behind Bytecoin and its forks put in a lot of effort into it and so there is also the moral idea that the Bytecoin devs have every right to reap the rewards of their creation.
Tenebrix was the first scrypt coin. It was also a premine an a fail. First-mover advantage is overrated, ask VHS, HTML, SDRAM or Flash - none of them had first-mover advantage. Edit: regarding the origin of Bytecoin, read the full story. I bet most of you well amazed, even those who think they know. Edit2: I would like several coins to succeed, not only one. At least for diversity, I truly believe diversify is paramount for survival. Plus, one can imagine several coins for several uses or community. Dollar and yen are basically the same coin on the technical side but worth a different userbase - US and Japan, in that case. |
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Short answer: no Long answer: to check if something is official, check the "official links and download" part of the OP. If it is not there, then it is not official. Sole exception: the binaries on top of the OP are official too, even if they are not technically on the"official links and download" part of the OP. |
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Be careful about Windows binaries, there could be trojan to steal coins or hash. Only use binaries on the OP, with "monero.cc" in the URL. If you download a binary somewhere else, use virustotal.com to check it. |
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The reason we are not asking for additional help currently is twofold: - a fully-formed team is on it - there is a point where adding more manpower not only doesn't increase productivity but actually decreases it. For the wallet, this is a bit different, there is a lot of things to consider which are not obvious and could be overlooked after a naive reading of what a wallet is and should do (I am abroad so I cannot be more specific on a smartphone with limited Internet access, remind me next week if you want more information). Be sure we are aware that being technologically superior doesn't suffice (heck, it is not even necessary, look at VHS, Flash, HTML, SDRAM... None of them had first-mover or technological superiority advantage). We are also aware that the more you'll wait, the higher the expectations you'll have. Remember: underpromise overdeliver, weekly updates, haters gonna hate, shorter gonna short, dumpers gonna dump. Well, every post from devs on here up unitl this point has had the tone of "we don't care if its hard to use, we aren't solving for the market, we are building the best coin..." etc... which up until this last post from you implies that its the "if we build it, they will come" magic thinking that permeates most technical folks and is completely wrong. But I am encouraged by your latest response, but a bit baffled by not accepting any help from the community with website or wallet to move things along. But hopefully you will show us that we had no reason to worry and a drop dead simple to use GUI wallet with a super friendly and professional website is just around the corner. I love XMR's potential, but until the devs really understand the need for speed and the need for ease of use and the need for active marketing now while the iron is hot, [...]
Do you really believe we are not deeply aware of that and actively working on it (for weeks)? Unfortunately, one cannot just copy-and-paste some Qt code and even copy BBR's code would not suffice. Edit: the same holds true for the website. We have designers, coders and marketers on it. Yes, it takes time but this is because we know we will have to stick with end product for years (reason: inertia). It will be worth the wait. Again, thanks to all people proposing help for the website - even if we don't need any, your proposal are truly appreciated. By the way: once the website will be operational, we will contact the various persons who proposed translations. We did not forget you! |
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I love XMR's potential, but until the devs really understand the need for speed and the need for ease of use and the need for active marketing now while the iron is hot, [...]
Do you really believe we are not deeply aware of that and actively working on it (for weeks)? Unfortunately, one cannot just copy-and-paste some Qt code and even copy BBR's code would not suffice. Edit: the same holds true for the website. We have designers, coders and marketers on it. Yes, it takes time but this is because we know we will have to stick with end product for years (reason: inertia). It will be worth the wait. Again, thanks to all people proposing help for the website - even if we don't need any, your proposal are truly appreciated. By the way: once the website will be operational, we will contact the various persons who proposed translations. We did not forget you! |
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I could lend a hand in creating such websites if any members here would like to suggest ideas  Well on its way, but thank you for your offer :-) |
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Those that sell 100% are really missing a trick. Sell 10% at 0.012, and then a further 10% at 0.024.
10% of remaining stash. This makes quite a difference. Also, after three doubling, you paid back your expenses, what remains is free money. http://david.latapie.name/blog/extended-10200-strategy/ |
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I see presstab here - so I know noble is in good hands. I'm stocking up now in anticipation. And we're in agreement - Stake has been abused majorly. But if you can do it right - adjust to the market; provide viable/minimal overall inflation; take the whole picture in. Stake is about long term interest in a coin and stability. IMO. I'll definitely plug Noble in my threads... And I publicise your pledge as much as I can, Stake Hunter: every month, sell 25% of your stake to ensure liquidity. |
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- Watch this: How economic inequality harms society- Read that: Gini index for crypto and the subsequent answers (particularly regarding the similar indexes and the limitations of Gini, which is about income, not about savings). Publishing a sort of Gini index of NOBL would fit with the ideals of NOBL. It should also come with initiatives to reduce our index, with initiatives such as faucets, giveaway... How close people can cheat and have several wallets but this is a start and is better than nothing. Presstab, code-wise, is it possible to implement something good, like less reward for the biggest wallets? I am not sure at all if this desirable and I certainly don't want to push for implementing such a diminishing get reward, but I'd like to investigate the technical feasibility. |
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Very interesting & from big names, something we'll be keeping an eye on definitely. We discussed it internally some weeks ago among the Monero core team. The main issue is not technological but more one of inertia and general mentality among the Bitcoin Dev community, a very conservative one. Bottom-line: don't place high hopes on it being implemented on Bitcoin and it has not much to do with technical merits. Still worth reading for Noble, though. Also take a look at MC2. |
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Noble already has one of the most professional devel
and as far as cleaning up..... not many people refer to Noble as a scam. we are the most transparent and open crypto currencies on the net. which is something investors like.
I will contact devtome once I'll be back from Brazil. It should help, since he is a respected authority when it comes to transparency in altcoins. |
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Hi. I'm posting from a phone en route to Brazil, so excuse my style.
WTB 5 millions NOBL. I'd appreciate 1% escrow from Rofo emma or myeagleflies.
Lower amounts considered too.
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Il a une grande gueule mais si il est seul à miner avec et que l'avantage n'est pas aussi grand que ce qu'il prétend alors il gagne juste un peu d'argent et l'effet est négligeable. Rappelez-vous ce qui est arrivé à Litecoin au début. Whales menaçant de tuer LTC si le proprio du GPU ne le rendait pas open-source. On se sacrifie pour nuire aux autres http://www.pourlascience.fr/ewb_pages/a/article-on-se-sacrifie-pour-nuire-aux-autres-24604.phpAprès "Monero, la réponse à TenebrixBytecoin", va-t-on filer la métaphore Litecoin avec dga et buchner par rapport à ArtForz? |
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