I should have mentioned it before, but I mine LiteCoin. The BitCoin ship sailed when the ASICs started showing up in people's mailboxes.
I hear that. But do you sell your LTC for BTC and use BTC, or do you sell you LTC for fiat and use fiat, or are you finding uses for LTC? What's the point of BTC for a dude like you? Are you holding because you think LTC is on the rise? Litecoins appear to be useless except for their value in bitcoins. The amount they can be cashed out for is tied to their value in bitcoins (bots on btc-e and wherever else do a really good job at this)... though it's beyond me who would actually place 'buy' orders for litecoins, let alone all the other crap that is listed on places like vircurex. I never would have gotten into bitcoins if I hadn't been able to participate in the mining process when I first heard about them (march 11 or so?). I suspect I'll gradually lose interest, maybe checking in once a month or something half a year from now. I'm not a hobbyist (or ignorant), so I'm not going to waste my money on ASICs that won't turn a profit...
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I created my own stats. I am pretty sure Genesis isn't making that good a prediction. But go ahead, if you are sure about it, you and the others sink all your money into 400Gh/s miners. In January 2014, we can talk about this again and compare graphs. Lets see who really was closer to the real numbers. i think the 52% increase in difficulty per month is closer to the target vs that 60% number someone else had but, this is assuming you actually get it in january 2014 (not very likely). it's also assuming static price for bitcoins (could happen). i go with coherent logix!
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Hello all, I am a bitcoin enthusiast, miner and trader. I trade on localbitcoins.com under profile https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/bitcoinerS/Butterly Labs just announced their latest next generation ASIC 600 GH/s cards for $4680. Planned delivery is end of 2013. This is an incredible deal and I am planning to buy a few cards myself and want to organize a group buy to combine purchasing power and get a discount. If you are interested in participating reply below or send me a PM. Description on https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/600-gh-bitcoin-mining-card.html600 GH Bitcoin Mining Card The Monarch BPU 600 C $4,680.00 Performance Specifications 600 GH/s nominal performance ( + - 20% ) 350w (0.6w/GH conservative estimate) what kind of discount are they offering?
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like the guy up above said, it's a sound method of staying afloat when otherwise you'd go bankrupt
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So,basically for BTC you guys suggesting the USB miners in bulk/ like 100 piece instead of the unsure other basic options ?
let's see, for $1000 you could get maybe 30 max, 10 g/hash. At current rates (or last I checked) that would produce one bitcoin every 6 days, so IF THAT STAYED CONSTANT you'd get 15 btc in 90 days. But it isn't going to stay constant, so the return might be half or 7.5 btc... well, we all know it won't stay constant it's going to go up another 20-30% here in a week or less plus you're not including any costs incurred to run the things (or equipment failure), and if it's something you're doing for profit rather than a "hobby", the value you place on your time i have not seen an ASIC w/ a price that is worth buying or even taking a risk on (ala avalon 1 and avalon 2) in a long time
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p2pool-13.3 released containing bug fixes primarily for p2pool LTC. This upgrade is recommended for p2pool LTC miners as it bans v11 nodes, reducing log spam and bandwidth use by a significant amount. At least unlike the bitcoin split, the cut-off LTC nodes should solve a few blocks (right now it's at one every 12hrs). Given the 40% orphan/DOA rate, I've been considering reverting to a lower version and maybe even start my stuff back up to mine litecoins
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it's bizarre to me how many people use 'p2pool.org' given its always horrible efficiency ratings, i guess it's just the address
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ASICMINER Blades or Jalapenos in the Auction section if you can get them ASAP. Or just buy BTC.
ppl will pay too much for them you'd be better off buying GPUs in the auction section then selling them on ebay
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This sounds similar to how the U.S. government (through the banks/credit card companies) slowly choked off the easily accessible money supply of internet poker players a few years ago.
UIGEA ftw money being held hostage at neteller for months back in 2007. pokerstars instantly becoming 2x harder to do the 8 table grind and losing the easiest site, Partypoker =/ i gave up after the 2011 incident
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99% of all blue screens are from a failure in memory. Try removing a stick of memory at a time and maybe you'll find a bad stick.
probably easier just to run memtest86
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OK, so you consider a store charging 6x value for items not a scam? Taking advantage of naive people that might not realize the worth of what they have?
noun 1. a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
You can't expect everyone to do their due diligence, that's why we still get emails from Nigerian princes
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when i first tried p2pool all i did was point my miner at p2pool.org. After a while my graph was showing hashrate + payout.
now if i try it my graph shows hashrate but never get payout. i never knew about setting up p2pool before hand i just pointed miner at it.
is it even possible to use p2pool that way? or do you HAVE to run bit coin/p2pool aswell?
p2pool.org was on the wrong chain for several weeks, but it's been v13 for at least the last 10 days 1ghash averages a share every 24hrs or so at current hash rate and don't use p2pool.org, go to http://p2pool-nodes.info/ or http://p2pool.hostv.pl/ and find something better
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It's possible, but even if they do this could take a very long time. Not great from an investment perspective.
Yeah, the 0% return for 1/2 a decade isn't very hot?
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However, when they do become unprofitable and are turned off, it is doubtful they will ever see service again
Thats how a feel about my GPU rig in the garage. Who really wants crazy BTC abused GPUs that ran 2-years at 75C and 80% fan that were bought used in the first place? The rig made me enough money its not really worth my effort to part out 5850 GPUs and Core2Duo CPUs for 0.5 BTC/ea. Heck that rig made me 2BTC/day at one point! i sold my 5830s and 5870s a month or two ago, when they were still going for $100 and $150. kept the 7xxx, just turned them off this morning. i actually would have done it last difficulty increase but i'm lazy... turning them off means i should sell them, and when i'm too lazy to sell them, i feel bad. so the other option is to dismantle them and put them in the storage shed, which requires manual labor, which makes me sad oh well. i was able to sell all my 5870s as part of a lot on ebay, you could try something like that for myself personally, i guess i might leave the bitcoind daemon running and maybe p2pool..?? not sure. don't have much interest in bitcoins anymore since i'm no longer generating profit from them. i'll keep the bitcoins i have in my wallet(s), then maybe in a year or two or three, i'll check the price... and they'll probably be worthless, but they may be worth a lot... right? (ed: err, I'll probably stay somewhat informed, watching ASIC prices. if it ever becomes profitable to purchase some, then i'll start mining again. right now they're throwing money into the wind)
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BOOM!
At this rate, my BFL asics will be unprofitable by the end of the year.
Yeah, my mini rig btc per day just went to ~ BTC5 from BTC6.4 That is huge. Next estimate is 86M, crazy numbers...That would put GPUs and FPGAs to rest. Forget Avalons and BFL singles..., you need bitfury, cheap, and lots of them... Avalons making ~ BTC4 a week now. Look historically, always someone powered on some hardware around new diff update to offset the numbers.. i believe it to be asicminer.. anyway, this update will land on 55 i think. and the upcoming update will settle on much less than next estimate in a few days. but it is for sure alarming with this much hashpower out there.. 55? no way, this huge quantity of ASIC stuff that ppl are paying way too much for, keeps selling out. why would hash rate drop? what are they going to do with it except mine bitcoins? yeah, i wouldnt expect it to go to 75million, but it'll probably be 65m
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absolute value, yeah. percentage, no.
it capped on block 68544, went from 45 to 181
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The price on the amazon link you provided would be $1060 for four of those brand new
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Use your existing hardware to mine litecoins and exchange them at btc-e
You can make an extra machine with 7950's.
I would recommend just mining litecoins to exchange them and once ASIC's are common and ship within weeks, only then get yourself an ASIC.
Eh, isn't 2000khash on litecoin a whole $150-$200/mo?
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log:2013-08-13 08:54:28.443218 Shares: 1 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Stale rate: ~0.0% (0-80%) Efficiency: ~119.2% (24-120%) Current payout: 0.0156 BTC log:2013-08-13 08:54:43.445825 Shares: 2 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~50.0% (9-91%) Efficiency: ~59.6% (11-108%) Current payout: 0.0156 BTC log:2013-08-13 08:56:13.468986 Shares: 2 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~50.0% (9-91%) Efficiency: ~59.6% (11-108%) Current payout: 0.0156 BTC log:2013-08-13 08:56:28.472261 Shares: 2 (0 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~100.0% (34-100%) Efficiency: ~0.0% (0-78%) Current payout: 0.0156 BTC ...... I'm curious as to how something like that happens? Essentially some share from 2 minutes earlier was moved from OK to DOA? It initially reported it as DOA, too. (i'll refrain from posting more, the log is at www.nogleg.com/log) Also, is there some setting I have messed up where it doesn't work properly with ASICs, or? (re 3 out of 4 DOA) (ed: I guess from looking at the graph it could have just been bad luck, looks like about 13% DOA) oh, I'm also testing something at nogleg.net:9332 that may be faster (the blocksize is just at 1000 temporarily)
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So,basically for BTC you guys suggesting the USB miners in bulk/ like 100 piece instead of the unsure other basic options ?
hell no if i was mining BTC, I wouldn't buy anything. if you insist on buying something though, you should buy 7790's or 7950's. there have been 7950's for under $200 in the last 2 weeks or so. i'm thinking they're a better buy than the 7790's now. why? because the USB crap will lose its value fast, and it's good for nothing but bitcoin mining. while your video cards will basically mine two things (jack and shit), at least you can resell them for a good percentage of their original purchase price
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