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1361  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 27, 2018, 09:30:50 AM

Do I though? I'm a realist, individualist. I accept what it's ''true'' You yourself said, we can't check everything all the time. I don't have the time to check how my Computer works, mouse, phone, etc etc. You have to trust other people, that's how it works. I chose to trust science and scientists because they have proven time and time again that science works. Religion on the other hand hasn't. At least not for me, prayer didn't work for me, most of the times, I would say 99%+. God didn't help me when I needed it the most and I have no reason to trust a book that simply hasn't shown it works like science.

But you don't really know that prayer didn't work for you. Whatever it was that you were asking for in your prayer, what you really wanted was some form of success one way or another. God might have seen that the literal thing you were asking for was bad for you. So the thing that you received might have been good, even though it was not the literal thing you asked for. The overall success that you wanted, you received.

If your prayer was just a test to see if God was there, He isn't going to play that game on your terms. At least not all the time. So, you received the answer to you prayer of temptation where you were trying to tempt God. After all, you know that God exists, simply by looking at nature.

Cool

I asked for my grandfather to live, he died, painfully, he was also a very deep believer. Prayer didn't work, it doesn't work, it's easy to prove. I don't think people praying to save small innocent children is tempting God.
1362  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 26, 2018, 06:13:51 PM
NASA Insight is set to land on Mars today: https://www.youtube.com/user/JPLraw/live

Well, to be fair that belongs in Flat Mars thread Grin

Which I'm shocked to find out doesn't exist - sounds like an opportunity for an aspiring spammer.

To be fair, Mars is a lie all together, not flat or round just fake like all space.
1363  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: November 26, 2018, 05:53:06 PM
If you trust government for the correct decision, you are really trusting some people to make some decision for you. And who knows why they decide the way they do. It's probably for money, but it most certainly isn't because they know better than other people.

People should make their own decisions about being vaccinated.

Cool

Then I hope you don't buy anything from anywhere, no groceries, no clothes, no tv's. You are trusting other people, maybe fruits are poisoned, maybe your TV hears and watches you. I hope you make your own clothes, electronics and harvest your own food. Can't trust anyone...

I am so happy for you. You finally have made your own decision! You have decided to let other people make your decisions for you. I am curious. Who makes your decisions for you regarding what to post in this forum? Please inform me (us... other forum members) of this. Thank you.

Cool

EDIT: Another question. Who decided for you that you would let others make your decisions for you?

But are you buying your food or making it? Why are you trusting them, have you done your research regarding food? See.. You guys never apply the same criteria to everything, only what you care about, in this case vaccines.

You can't trust the guy who passes you when you are walking down the sidewalk. Even in New York City where thousands pass each other on the sidewalks, daily. You can't trust any of them. Go live on a mountain top. How about the second highest one... Everest. I know, I know. You are probably there already.

Cool

Well, I trust people, you are the one who doesn't. You also seem to think that the ''government'' or ''cops'' are not people, they are people just like you and me, there is little difference. My point was that if you can't trust the government, then you can't trust anyone, so why are you trusting the guys that are packing your food right now?
1364  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 26, 2018, 05:51:55 PM

''Scientists don't even agree with themselves. That's why scientific theories exist.'' That should win an award to the stupidest statement in 2018. Scientific theories are by definition an agreement of the best explanation of a phenomenon LOL.

Why do you think that science theories change? Some scientists simply disagree with some others. And it happens that the ones who are deemed socially right are the ones who determine when and which science theories change. It's all about voting among the scientists... and the people who pay them the most money.

Cool

Problem here is that scientists don't ''vote'', simply when something else explains a phenomena better, that something else is accepted instead, again, by everyone because that was determined to be the best explanation. Who cares if they change or not? That's the point, scientists are able to adapt to those changes, before Einsteins's special relativity we had other theories and explanations, now everyone uses special relativity, if something else works better then scientists will use that and so on until we determine the absolute truth. Religion does not do that.

Voting has to do with expressing decisions that you have made. Scientists vote all the time, even though it isn't generally called voting. However, often their vote IS NOT based on what they truly believe. Often it is based on the way their bosses at the universities where they work tell them to vote... if they want to be able to keep on supporting their families, that is.

Einstein's special relativity focuses on activities within the aether. And it does so in ways that hide the idea that the aether even exists. Yet it is the aether and its workings that support everything regarding the way special relativity works.

Who is it that really wants to hide the aether from us? Who is it that understands the great power that all people can hold just by recognizing that the aether exists? Who is it that wants us to remain enslaved by not recognizing the freedom that we all have when we properly understand the aether? That is why Einstein's theories were put into play the way they were... to camouflage aether freedom from the common people.

So, now we can see where the religion lies. It lies in the way science is manipulated, to keep the controllers of the high priests (scientists) of science - the university heads and others - in control of the high priests, so that they maintain control of the thinking of the masses who have been directed to blindly follow the follies of science. THAT is the true false religion of our day... science propaganda.

Cool

''Who is it that really wants to hide the aether from us? Who is it that understands the great power that all people can hold just by recognizing that the aether exists? Who is it that wants us to remain enslaved by not recognizing the freedom that we all have when we properly understand the aether? That is why Einstein's theories were put into play the way they were... to camouflage aether freedom from the common people.''

That's the same thing Notbatman says about the flat earth and why they are hiding it from us. You should take a moment and think about it.

Yes, but. The reverse is true about you. You would rather hide the truth in a different way than notbatman. The difference is the way, and the kind of truth you want to hide.

Cool

Do I though? I'm a realist, individualist. I accept what it's ''true'' You yourself said, we can't check everything all the time. I don't have the time to check how my Computer works, mouse, phone, etc etc. You have to trust other people, that's how it works. I chose to trust science and scientists because they have proven time and time again that science works. Religion on the other hand hasn't. At least not for me, prayer didn't work for me, most of the times, I would say 99%+. God didn't help me when I needed it the most and I have no reason to trust a book that simply hasn't shown it works like science.
1365  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: November 26, 2018, 04:56:39 PM
It's indeed a bit strange to see people believing there is no climate change when 99% of scientific agrees on its existence.

But it's a little more complicated to link it to human activities. It's quite easy to show a correlation of course but... Well some people will tell you that correlation isn't cause-effect. And they would be right.

Technically I don't think we have really "proven" that climate change is vastly due to human activities at 100%. We still have tons of indirect proofs and clues but nothing 10% solid....

You make some good points.

But why is it that every time some religious style Warmer blurts out ...

"It's Settled Science!"

... I have to restrain myself from bursting out laughing?

The more so, the more they look serious and stern when they pontificate their truths. truthies.

Aren't you the guy who is 100% sure climate change has nothing to do with humans? A bit ironic, don't you think?
1366  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: November 26, 2018, 04:29:29 PM
If you trust government for the correct decision, you are really trusting some people to make some decision for you. And who knows why they decide the way they do. It's probably for money, but it most certainly isn't because they know better than other people.

People should make their own decisions about being vaccinated.

Cool

Then I hope you don't buy anything from anywhere, no groceries, no clothes, no tv's. You are trusting other people, maybe fruits are poisoned, maybe your TV hears and watches you. I hope you make your own clothes, electronics and harvest your own food. Can't trust anyone...

I am so happy for you. You finally have made your own decision! You have decided to let other people make your decisions for you. I am curious. Who makes your decisions for you regarding what to post in this forum? Please inform me (us... other forum members) of this. Thank you.

Cool

EDIT: Another question. Who decided for you that you would let others make your decisions for you?

But are you buying your food or making it? Why are you trusting them, have you done your research regarding food? See.. You guys never apply the same criteria to everything, only what you care about, in this case vaccines.
1367  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 26, 2018, 04:27:56 PM

''Scientists don't even agree with themselves. That's why scientific theories exist.'' That should win an award to the stupidest statement in 2018. Scientific theories are by definition an agreement of the best explanation of a phenomenon LOL.

Why do you think that science theories change? Some scientists simply disagree with some others. And it happens that the ones who are deemed socially right are the ones who determine when and which science theories change. It's all about voting among the scientists... and the people who pay them the most money.

Cool

Problem here is that scientists don't ''vote'', simply when something else explains a phenomena better, that something else is accepted instead, again, by everyone because that was determined to be the best explanation. Who cares if they change or not? That's the point, scientists are able to adapt to those changes, before Einsteins's special relativity we had other theories and explanations, now everyone uses special relativity, if something else works better then scientists will use that and so on until we determine the absolute truth. Religion does not do that.

Voting has to do with expressing decisions that you have made. Scientists vote all the time, even though it isn't generally called voting. However, often their vote IS NOT based on what they truly believe. Often it is based on the way their bosses at the universities where they work tell them to vote... if they want to be able to keep on supporting their families, that is.

Einstein's special relativity focuses on activities within the aether. And it does so in ways that hide the idea that the aether even exists. Yet it is the aether and its workings that support everything regarding the way special relativity works.

Who is it that really wants to hide the aether from us? Who is it that understands the great power that all people can hold just by recognizing that the aether exists? Who is it that wants us to remain enslaved by not recognizing the freedom that we all have when we properly understand the aether? That is why Einstein's theories were put into play the way they were... to camouflage aether freedom from the common people.

So, now we can see where the religion lies. It lies in the way science is manipulated, to keep the controllers of the high priests (scientists) of science - the university heads and others - in control of the high priests, so that they maintain control of the thinking of the masses who have been directed to blindly follow the follies of science. THAT is the true false religion of our day... science propaganda.

Cool

''Who is it that really wants to hide the aether from us? Who is it that understands the great power that all people can hold just by recognizing that the aether exists? Who is it that wants us to remain enslaved by not recognizing the freedom that we all have when we properly understand the aether? That is why Einstein's theories were put into play the way they were... to camouflage aether freedom from the common people.''

That's the same thing Notbatman says about the flat earth and why they are hiding it from us. You should take a moment and think about it.
1368  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 26, 2018, 04:23:59 PM
^^^ SCAM

NASA Insight is set to land on Mars today: https://www.youtube.com/user/JPLraw/live

1369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🎲[BOUNTY] EOSJACKS - EOS Gaming Platform, Monthly Payout, EOS Prizes (~$600k)💰🚀 on: November 26, 2018, 09:56:32 AM
Interesting and promising project, definitely I will keep an eye on it. Wish you great success and prosperity.

You should participate, even though it's EOS and a lot of people don't have an account, it's a great way to earn some revenue, specially in this market.
1370  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: November 26, 2018, 09:45:01 AM
If you trust government for the correct decision, you are really trusting some people to make some decision for you. And who knows why they decide the way they do. It's probably for money, but it most certainly isn't because they know better than other people.

People should make their own decisions about being vaccinated.

Cool

Then I hope you don't buy anything from anywhere, no groceries, no clothes, no tv's. You are trusting other people, maybe fruits are poisoned, maybe your TV hears and watches you. I hope you make your own clothes, electronics and harvest your own food. Can't trust anyone...
1371  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: November 26, 2018, 09:42:43 AM

''Scientists don't even agree with themselves. That's why scientific theories exist.'' That should win an award to the stupidest statement in 2018. Scientific theories are by definition an agreement of the best explanation of a phenomenon LOL.

Why do you think that science theories change? Some scientists simply disagree with some others. And it happens that the ones who are deemed socially right are the ones who determine when and which science theories change. It's all about voting among the scientists... and the people who pay them the most money.

Cool

Problem here is that scientists don't ''vote'', simply when something else explains a phenomena better, that something else is accepted instead, again, by everyone because that was determined to be the best explanation. Who cares if they change or not? That's the point, scientists are able to adapt to those changes, before Einsteins's special relativity we had other theories and explanations, now everyone uses special relativity, if something else works better then scientists will use that and so on until we determine the absolute truth. Religion does not do that.
1372  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 26, 2018, 09:39:02 AM
Appreciate your interest in this matter. Flat earth proves The Bible. When you do your research you will find out that God's Word is always faithful and true.

The Word of God is the highest authority of Truth. Everything else must align to it. If something contradicts the Bible, it is a lie.

So if you want to learn The Truth, then always go with The Word of God and not the "wisdom" of men.

https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1-25.htm

@milasy

Good start man. Here are some helpful hints for you. Just keep on researching, nasa is occult factory of lies and owned by the devil.









Then how come virtually every religious person discarded the flat earth and accepted that the earth was a globe? Before that 1k years ago, pretty much everyone believed the earth was flat except a few, 500 years ago a lot more people accepted the globe as real, 100 years ago virtually everyone accepted the globe as real, keeping in mind that most people were also religious. How did this happen then? How did all these deeply religious people accept this? Perhaps because they know it's right?
1373  Other / Meta / Re: General assumption now, no offense to anyone on: November 25, 2018, 12:58:20 PM
Funny that you are getting paid to post when you are complaining about it.  Huh Huh
1374  Economy / Reputation / Re: What happened to Lutpin? on: November 25, 2018, 12:00:45 PM
It's weird seeing a former trusted user just not care anymore, Lutpin has barely made any posts in the past months.

I'm surprised users still wear the signatures after not getting paid for 2 months. I'm just posting here to read updates Smiley

As I said they the owner and manager needs only to change the payment terms and nothing else.
I'd say changing campaign manager to someone who has time to manage the campaign makes much more sense.

I personally left Bitvest because of that. The owner was also pretty lazy but you expect the manager to keep participants informed and counting their posts each week. We had to wait like 2 more weeks even after he had all the money because he didn't count anything during the 10+ week period.
1375  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 25, 2018, 11:59:29 AM
Look at the flattards, they are stunned with just 1 video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ObTd7DLMw They will never be able to debunk it.
1376  Economy / Reputation / Re: What happened to Lutpin? on: November 24, 2018, 11:28:19 PM
It doesn't sound like Lutpin was actually acting as an escrow agent to the campaign if they were delays caused by the owner of 777 casino.

If the owner of the 777 casino allowed the escrow wallet to become depleted, then lutpin should have warned participants that he was unable to guarantee payment.

He was escrow for Bitvest, also on the 777 campaign the escrow wallet was filled, he could have paid 1-2 weeks. He is unprofessional.
1377  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: November 24, 2018, 07:25:28 PM
Rofl, I don't think you understood what he said. It's like me saying the average height in USA is 5'9 and frogs are animals and then yelling HARD FACTS!!111 But what was the point of any of those ''hard facts'' what's the conclusion?

You do whatever mental gymnastics you need to to feel better about yourself. You stated "you nutjobs will just say the same old, ''it's fake'' ''it's a hoax'' ''those statistics are made up by the government'', and I never said any of those things. You don't get to make up arguments then demand I support them. Its more like me making documented statements of fact, you not having any good reply so you have to attribute bad arguments of others to me. Any conclusions I made I had previously already clearly stated.

You never made any statement, this thread is about vaccines and if they work or if the government is poisoning us, you never made your position clear, you are clearly afraid to do so, sorry to say but you are almost worse than badecker at this point, at least he is not a pussy.

I made plenty of statements, specifically regarding the fact that the government is not meeting its legal obligations in safety reporting as shown by the FOIA suit discussed earlier. Who the fuck made you the grand arbiter of what positions I must take? You are just pissed you can't write off every argument I make as a conspiracy theory like you do with him.

That's not an argument. The government doesn't meet its legal obligations regarding many things many times, it doesn't mean vaccines are harmful on purpose which is what is being argued here. I still don't know what your position is at all, you just came here and said some stupid things about scientific theories and then went on saying the same thing over and over again, thinking that you are way smarter than the others LUL :^)

Stick to your other discussions, this isn't for you...


Well again, I am glad we have you here to tell us what merits discussion. I don't know what we would do without you. I know you are still annoyed that I proved you are repeatedly using logical fallacies and character attacks because you couldn't argue against this proof that the government is breaking the law. You will get over it. Your pathetic attempt at gaining conformity via ostracization is again demonstrative of how you would rather use logical fallacies and personal attacks than have a legitimate debate.

This thread is not about ''you couldn't argue against this proof that the government is breaking the law'' It's about vaccines, I thought you were actually smart, my bad. I don't need to argue against it, we already established that yes, they did not have those reports. Those reports are however not the only safety reports for vaccines, the government has provided thousands of other safety reports throughout the years.
1378  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: November 24, 2018, 06:15:32 PM
Rofl, I don't think you understood what he said. It's like me saying the average height in USA is 5'9 and frogs are animals and then yelling HARD FACTS!!111 But what was the point of any of those ''hard facts'' what's the conclusion?

You do whatever mental gymnastics you need to to feel better about yourself. You stated "you nutjobs will just say the same old, ''it's fake'' ''it's a hoax'' ''those statistics are made up by the government'', and I never said any of those things. You don't get to make up arguments then demand I support them. Its more like me making documented statements of fact, you not having any good reply so you have to attribute bad arguments of others to me. Any conclusions I made I had previously already clearly stated.

You never made any statement, this thread is about vaccines and if they work or if the government is poisoning us, you never made your position clear, you are clearly afraid to do so, sorry to say but you are almost worse than badecker at this point, at least he is not a pussy.

I made plenty of statements, specifically regarding the fact that the government is not meeting its legal obligations in safety reporting as shown by the FOIA suit discussed earlier. Who the fuck made you the grand arbiter of what positions I must take? You are just pissed you can't write off every argument I make as a conspiracy theory like you do with him.

That's not an argument. The government doesn't meet its legal obligations regarding many things many times, it doesn't mean vaccines are harmful on purpose which is what is being argued here. I still don't know what your position is at all, you just came here and said some stupid things about scientific theories and then went on saying the same thing over and over again, thinking that you are way smarter than the others LUL :^)

Stick to your other discussions, this isn't for you...
1379  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: November 24, 2018, 04:55:54 PM
Rofl, I don't think you understood what he said. It's like me saying the average height in USA is 5'9 and frogs are animals and then yelling HARD FACTS!!111 But what was the point of any of those ''hard facts'' what's the conclusion?

You do whatever mental gymnastics you need to to feel better about yourself. You stated "you nutjobs will just say the same old, ''it's fake'' ''it's a hoax'' ''those statistics are made up by the government'', and I never said any of those things. You don't get to make up arguments then demand I support them. Its more like me making documented statements of fact, you not having any good reply so you have to attribute bad arguments of others to me. Any conclusions I made I had previously already clearly stated.

You never made any statement, this thread is about vaccines and if they work or if the government is poisoning us, you never made your position clear, you are clearly afraid to do so, sorry to say but you are almost worse than badecker at this point, at least he is not a pussy.
1380  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: November 24, 2018, 02:46:53 PM

Now, this is got to be the most ridiculous topic I've ever stumbled upon.

Flat Earth - No Boat Went Over The Horizon. -- https://youtu.be/nBtoT_SDu_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ObTd7DLMw

Clearly below the horizon!
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