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141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt Technology Tree - Next release: v1.5 *Voting* AND *Multsig* on: May 14, 2015, 05:40:50 PM
Added wiki links for Voting, Phased Transactions and the Plugin System to the OP for ease of reference. I think they are hot off the presses from the last couple of weeks for anyone looking to solid in and to view the guides.
142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt Technology Tree - Next release: v1.5 *Voting* AND *Multsig* on: May 14, 2015, 05:36:06 PM
MS Coin shuffling confirmed for NRS 1.6

Most businesses like Jetcoin are likely to need only a small subset of all Nxt features - I guess balance leasing, aliases, DGS, MS (or at least some MS currency versions), coin shuffling (coming in 1.6), are not needed and not relevant for Jetcoin.

Updated OP to reflect this.
143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ■■ SERIOUSLY... WTF is wrong with NXT.. it's in the ESMA notes. on: May 14, 2015, 04:37:42 PM
More mentions within an overview

https://www.abe-eba.eu/downloads/knowledge-and-research/EBA_20150511_EBA_Cryptotechnologies_a_major_IT_innovation_v1.0.pdf
144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what do you think the BitShares are? on: May 14, 2015, 04:20:08 PM
Anything to add about the market failure of these illiquid assets you claim you can move between? Seems 1 bitUSD is still $1.18, from the data published in the link above.
145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IPO vs ICO vs Pre-Sale on: May 14, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
Why would anyone buy at inflated prices? Surely you would just buy at market rates, as determined by supply and demand, right?

I have a CPU, how much bitcoin can I get?
146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nxt and the rise to the top. on: May 13, 2015, 08:25:47 PM
Cool, I hadn't seen that vid. I like Alex's videos, and how he helps those who want to build on Jay..
147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nxt and the rise to the top. on: May 13, 2015, 05:07:09 PM
Ok. Well thanks for your opinion. I can't agree with you as correlation is not equal to causation (I don't believe brushing my teeth this morning made the sun rise).

If you do find some evidence to support your opinion, please post it here and we can continue the discussion from there.
148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nxt and the rise to the top. on: May 13, 2015, 04:10:48 PM
But in answering your questions, for others, because the REALITY and the FACTS as of this moment, fully available to anyone, support that opinion fully.


Please present them, with blockchain data that is fully available to anyone, to allow our discussion to continue.
149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IPO vs ICO vs Pre-Sale on: May 13, 2015, 04:08:05 PM
Nothing decentralised about a premine, IPO, Crowdfund, ICO, Presale.

Or POW. Millions of blocks mind by a handful of people in the early days of BTC. Satoshi has 5% minimum of all BTC that we know about  Grin

Depends what type of POW you are talking about. A long POW with the right difficulty targeting and with a number of pools on board it is fair. Early adopters are not always there in the long run.

What about for people without mining rigs/ASICS? Or your grandchildren's children?

Exchanges?? Buy it or Earn it.

This can be said for POS/IPO. So why didn't you include POW in your list if there is nothing inherently fair about it? You still need money to buy your ASICS, and your grandkids-kids will have to buy at prices much higher than today (assuming successful) so they don't even have the opportunity to get a substantial cache.
150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nxt and the rise to the top. on: May 13, 2015, 04:01:44 PM
So, to put the baby to rest so to speak, IT IS INDEED A PROBLEM that a correlation clearly exists between the "success" of the platform and the decimation suffered by the price in recent months. FACT.


Why should I share your opinion?


(hint)
Also, if you want more people to share your opinion...


So... unless you believe that I make the sun rise... we're back to this:

So please post the blockchain data that shows the causation that you repeatable claim. And then show how this ties into the top 50/70 accounts and how the forging revenue has any relevance to business start ups and success. We can then discuss this data, rather than continue to re-read your unvarnished opinion.
151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IPO vs ICO vs Pre-Sale on: May 13, 2015, 02:52:00 PM
Nothing decentralised about a premine, IPO, Crowdfund, ICO, Presale.

Or POW. Millions of blocks mind by a handful of people in the early days of BTC. Satoshi has 5% minimum of all BTC that we know about  Grin

Depends what type of POW you are talking about. A long POW with the right difficulty targeting and with a number of pools on board it is fair. Early adopters are not always there in the long run.

What about for people without mining rigs/ASICS? Or your grandchildren's children?
152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what do you think the BitShares are? on: May 13, 2015, 02:49:43 PM
The most of invest is Chinese, and almost all of wholes are Chinese too.
Sure lot of Chinese people don't like it as me.

I have seen that before too but yet to be convinced. Where do all these Chinese buyers discuss and find out developments about Bitshares? There must be a huge number of posts somewhere.(bitsharestalk has only 34k posts in the Chinese thread against 62k in the general thread, so you'd expect to see more english posters on BTT (twice as many as in any Chinese repository you might find)).

I asked before but got no answer.
153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what do you think the BitShares are? on: May 13, 2015, 01:08:03 PM
BitAsset derivatives are supposed to hold the value of the assets they are designed to track (the peg)

Currently, to buy 1 BitUSD = $1.18* (it should be held at $1 if working properly and the economic incentives are aligned)

* http://www.bitsharesblocks.com/asset/orderbook?asset=USD (You can buy 1 BitUSD for 288.54 BTS > equivalent of $1.18)


If a naive mom and pop merchant bought BitUSD to hedge the currency risk today, then they would lose ~15% (0.18/1.18) of their money the peg ever corrected to $1 like it is supposed to track.

The peg has broken but the most curious thing is that nobody seems to care. No one has mentioned it here and the marketcap hasn't dived. "The peg will be tighter when liquidity increases". True, but why would liquidity increase if the product doesn't do what it is designed to? A very strange market in BTS.
154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It's Happening .... The secrets of 21 inc revealed, and its what we hoped for. on: May 13, 2015, 12:38:55 PM
Sounds like I'll be giving toasters to my whole family for Xmas and all the coins will be mine!  Muabahahahahah

And this toaster scenario would be the equivalent to having the grille of your oven on 24/7, and you just put bread under when you want toast?

There is always the idea of value added form other things but the Blockparty social media, they state you can view your friends purchase histories. Seems odd, why would anyone take part under these conditions. How would a bank fare if it released an account where all your friends could review your purchase history?  Cheesy

This idea seems very naive to me. But for the millions they've raised, they must have something up their sleeves.
155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It's Happening .... The secrets of 21 inc revealed, and its what we hoped for. on: May 13, 2015, 12:22:10 PM
So the chips will use energy additional to a normal device or are they designed to work within the "energy footprint" of existing devices i.e. no net energy increase?

The latter doesn't seem likely.
156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IPO vs ICO vs Pre-Sale on: May 13, 2015, 12:14:20 PM
Nothing decentralised about a premine, IPO, Crowdfund, ICO, Presale.

Or POW. Millions of blocks mind by a handful of people in the early days of BTC. Satoshi has 5% minimum of all BTC that we know about  Grin
157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 12, 2015, 02:22:37 PM
I get the feeling that the next release is much more complicated than recent releases.

People with tehcnical/software background (and enthusiastic, interested intermediates Wink ) are requested to spend an hour our two looking into this thread...

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/(core)-edge-cases-for-1-5-6e

... and helping out where they can. It is good for all in the long run. Get on testnet and find out how phasing works and then break it  Grin

Thanks in advance  Smiley
158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why do Satoshi, BCNext and Qora want to stay unknown? on: May 12, 2015, 02:19:07 PM
BCNext was a long time member of this place, so the Feds must know who he is...
He also posted a "let's do Silk Road 2" thread here weeks before the Nxt ANN thread...
So NXT was really designed to host illicit markets... and this haunted BCNext until he disappeared.

Source?
This guy must be creazy, he have no idea what he talk about. He totally did,t know who is bcnext, just leave hime along Grin

Like many stories I see about BCNext, there is truth in them. He did disappear citing being contacted by law enforcement (we obviously can't know for sure) and said himself that he was a senior user of BTT.

I was just wondering if Zer0Sum knows of something I don't for the rest or if it's just conjecture.
159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nxt and the rise to the top. on: May 12, 2015, 02:13:36 PM
Also, if you want more people to share your opinion...


So... unless you believe that I make the sun rise... we're back to this:

So please post the blockchain data that shows the causation that you repeatable claim. And then show how this ties into the top 50/70 accounts and how the forging revenue has any relevance to business start ups and success. We can then discuss this data, rather than continue to re-read your unvarnished opinion.
160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nxt and the rise to the top. on: May 12, 2015, 02:12:38 PM
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No, no matter how much you insist, we are and we will always be back at #1.- There's a direct correlation, causal or not, between the "success" of the platform and the decimation of the price/cap.

No-one denies the correlation (as I stated explicitly 2-3 posts again). Causal is very important.  Otherwise, brushing my teeth can be legitimately cited for making the sun rise solely because they are correlated. But you don't seem to want to comprehend this basic logic.

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and
#2.- It is my opinion...

HURRAH!!!!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin It seemed before that you were presenting your opinion as INDISPUTABLE FACTS..  Cheesy  Cheesy

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...that perhaps the sheer complexity of the project, from the coin wallet (causing problems in every trading house to this day) to the barrage of "assets" (most of them of very ridiculous nature) and other features[/b]

Please provide info on which trading houses are having problems with the wallet, if you can. I would like to get them some help. I haven't heard the problem you claim since Mintpal were saying they were interested in integration.

Nxt (the technology, as that is all it can be) isn't responsible for the assets that are listed on asset exchange. In the same way the internet isn't responsible for the websites that are displays on it. And cream rises to the top; look for assets with a track record and competent devs. Don't buy from new accounts promising the moon. Pretty basic stuff, no more complex than small cap stocks.

Due to the undeveloped nature of the market, I say it was much easier than small cap stocks. E.g. You have direct access to the devs/owners for queries, the histories to look through and assess are shorter, ideas are usually quite focussed and simple etc. The risk is obviously much higher but that is a feature of anonymous crypto/internet, not a specific feature of Nxt's Asset Exchange.
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