Ethereum really has taken a battering the past couple of months and even more so the last week or so. Quite annoying for me as I exchanged some bitcoin to Eth early this year and it's lost half it's value and looks like it might keep falling.I still believe in eth long term but it's always annoying and alarming when a currency falls so much and especially for no serious or identifiable reason.


I doubt eth will get back to 1k for a very long time, just like bitcoin probably won't hit it's all time high again any time soon, but I think looking longer term both btc and eth can get back there eventually. We just have to have some patience and keep doing our part to spread adoption.

This is news to me, but that doesn't make any sense to me at all. Who said that? Why would someone building an exchange cause the price to fall, especially the CFO of Goldman Sachs? That sounds like good news to me so why wouldn't the price go the opposite way?


Possibly. I just hope if/when it is denied (which it probably will be) that it doesn't fall any more.

Do you have a list of countries that are blocked by PrimeDice/Stake or what countries your license extends to? It's weird. I can use PrimeDice and Stake fine, but sometimes I get ads for other sites and they say they're blocked in my country (not bitcoin gambling sites but other sportsbooks or casinos).

FUD IE Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt will be a big factor. A lot of people I encounter fear bitcoin because they don't understand it properly, but also because they believe all the FUD they hear about it that it's a scam or when it's in the media these days it's usually for something negative like losing value or someone has been arrested or somebody has scammed someone with bitcoin etc. These all contribute to the negative image bitcoin has and scares a lot of the skeptical users away.

Blade Runner 2049. Thought it was much better than the original, which I watched right before it. Was way ahead of its time when it was released but seems a little dated now,

What sort of unholy nonsense is this? 99% of Muslims probably don't commit terrorism or any other acts of violence.

For the same reason anyone else would. Have you never sold any bitcoin you've ever had and are holding out for one million dollar price tag? You might be waiting awhile. What if that time never comes and bitcoin goes to zero before it gets anywhere near 7 figures? You've lost everything then. Have you ever thought that maybe satoshi doesn't really care about fame or fortune either?


Umm... how about the hundreds of thousands of people that are 'buying' fiat money everyday and selling their coins for cash. Anybody would be pretty stupid to keep all their money in one asset. I don't think you know what satoshi wants either and anything you say is just speculation based on nothing.

That's not really the question here, but of course "he" exists. Who do you think created bitcoin? Magical bitcoin elves or the technology evolved out of nothing? Maybe AI or aliens created it?



Satoshi might be a single person or a group, but he or they definitely existed. Personally I think it was probably one guy but that's just my opinion.

Asking whether satoshi will ever sell his coins is like asking if Jesus will come back from the dead. Nobody can say for sure, but probably not  . I think if satoshi was ever going to sell his coins then he would have  likely already done so by now, or maybe he's just the worlds longest bitcoin hodler?  . I think satoshi is either dead, lost access to his coins, or maybe just purposely abandoned them to make it fairer. If he does ever come back though I hope he's wise and fair enough not to just dump them all and sell them off slowly and bit by bit as to not cause a panic. Probaby best for everyone of they just remain dormant however.

The gravity of reality can be a bitch and what goes up must come down. There's always resistance on the uptrend and a not as much when it comes crashing back down to earth and this has a spiraling effect when weak hands start panic selling. I wouldn't sweat the small stuff though as these ups and downs are just part of bitcoin and we should learn to ride them out as there will be a hell of a lot more of this to come.

Lol. How is it boring? Just because the value is going down instead of up? Are you new to crypto or something? Nothing is crypto is guaranteed and all coins have their ups and downs. If you believe in eth then you should keep holding, but if you don't then maybe you should get out whilst you can. Personally I think eth is one of the better alt coins and actually has some real-world uses with smart contracts etc, so I think this is just a temporary lul. It's probably even a good time to buy some more because I think it will reach it's all time high again at some point in the future, but that's just my own personal opinion and speculation.

What exactly are "real" tokens? Personally I wouldn't do any work for anyone on here if it wasn't paid in an established coin like bitcoin or eth, but giving away free tokens is how these ICOs work. Most ICOs are ways to get rich quick which are just based on crappy ideas in the first place and in turn they give you worthless tokens for your effort. I would advise you to stop advertising for them if you don't believe in what they're saying or offering because you probably are just going to be wasting your time.

Why don't you spend five minutes doing some research on this? If you clicked the link above you would find all you need to know about it. It's basically like bitcoin conference but instead of renting out a venue you rent out a cruise ship and it sails around a few places.

You can buy tickets for it here: https://coinsbank.com/cruise-europe?#section-home

Predictions are dime a dozen and anyone can make them. They're just wishful thinking and not exactly science. It just gets tedious for me to read every day this guy says bitcoin is going to go to X and this other guy says bitcoin is going to Y and then fox news says bitcoin is a bubble and NBC says something else.


What do you base this on? Just because it happened last year doesn't mean it will this year. Without anything significant happening I can't see any significant rise in value either.

I'm not so sure it's only a matter of time. They might just think it is too risky and volatile to allow. Why haven't they accepted one already as there's been several requests and all have been denied so far. I hope this isn't the case and one will be accepted eventually but I wouldn't put all my money on it.

I also disagree with you in that I do think it will have a significant effect on bitcoin. We already saw a drop in value when a couple of them were denied before, and I think one finally being given the green light will be very exciting for people and cause increased demand and a price spike. It's probably not going to go to the moon again because of it and I don't think we'll see a new all time high or anything because of it but I think it will be very significant.

Only 80%? I'd say that's a conservative estimate. I prefer 99%  . Seriously though, it depends how you define a scam. Some are straight up scams from the get go and just want to run off with your money whilst others just seem to be some project someone has halfheartedly dreamed up and hopes that people will just invest in it to get it off the ground. Most people who run ICOs will have absolutely no idea what they're doing and the project may just fail due to incompetence or inexperience, or once they have the money they spend it badly or just figure it's best to keep it without throwing it away on some shoddy idea that will probably just fail anyway. If most of theseICOs were legitimate businesses or ideas then they would likely just go the normal route to get funding or their ideas off the ground, but these days it's much easier to just quickly throw together an ICO and hope people bite.

People sell because they're cutting their losses and getting out whilst they can. 99% of ICOs are just pump and dumps to enrich either the creator or the very first investors and once everyone starts cashing out that obviously has a knock on effect and down goes the value. People really need to start understanding the norm of ICOs because 99% of them are the same and follow the same pattern. I wouldn't bother with the majority of them and just wait for the right one that actually offers something that you can get behind long term and those are the ones you should be trying to back, not just another pump and dump scheme.

There are already physical coins of bitcoins, but not sure why we would need them to stop bitcoin being dependent on fiat. Bitcoin to me is the evolution of currency and going back to paper or physical coins is a step back because they're antiquated technology in terms of a monetary system. Even fiat currencies will almost certainly ditch paper and metal  eventually and go fully digital. Physical cash is already used less and less and plastic is becoming the norm but even that will likely be replaced by people just using their phone to pay with things.

I agree. Ignorance or at least naivety is probably the biggest factor that puts most people off. Many people seem to think it's too geeky or beyond their reach because it seems too technical for them, but it's really not at all. It may seem like that especially with a lot of the technical language and big words people use (decentralized and blockchain etc), but it's quite simple to use if you don't scare yourself off with all the buzzwords or by trying to look 'under the hood' to see hot it works behind the scenes which isn't needed for the average user. I think a lot of people are very weary of 'get rich quick' scams and they unfortunately lump bitcoin into that because of how it's often sold to them by fanatics which doesn't help. If you encounter someone who's skeptical of bitcoin or believes all the negativity just explain it to them in laymans terms and why you think its great and let them make up their own mind. We can't convince everyone to get on board but at least we can try fix some of the misconceptions about it.

I'm surprised Ver would go on something like this. Seems like these sorts of cruises would be a security risk to people who hold millions in cryptos. I'd imagine they'd be good places to rob or even abduct people. Or maybe I've just been watching too many heist films  

With that being said, I think I'd quite like to go on one of these cruises if it was to a nice location, but it would have to have the right guests. I bet they're complete sausage fests though LOL.


Why don't you jump on the cruise and give him a piece of your mind?  . I don't like Ver either but you've got to hand it to him for purchasing that domain when he did because it's worth a lot more than the one million he paid for it now. I'm sure he's made his money back from adverts and sponsorships already.